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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Ali. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and Matt I am down in Mobile, Alabama. It took

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Speaker 1: me a while to get here today, but I am

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Speaker 1: down here, and uh tomorrow the Senior Bowl practices will start,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to go through some of the

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Speaker 1: more interesting names in this year Senior bowlt class. Uh

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Speaker 1: for what we're gonna be seeing going on here, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna get too much into the quarterback position because

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Speaker 1: in this year's quarterback group isn't close to what was

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Speaker 1: here last year. There were some last Yeah, the top

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Speaker 1: running back, Uh, it's okay. I'm not gonna get too

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Speaker 1: much in that at either, because I don't know that

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Speaker 1: this the Steeler is gonna be looking at that group

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Speaker 1: all that closely. At the wide receiver position, there's some

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Speaker 1: guys I really want to see here that are that

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Speaker 1: are interesting. Uh. The one guy, first guy I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about is Charlie Jones at a Purdue and

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Speaker 1: he's a bigger slot who was the kid that they

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Speaker 1: had last year went to the Browns. Yeah, he went

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Speaker 1: real well. I forget his name and I can't remember. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't run real well. David Bell, that's the guy,

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Speaker 1: David Bell. Well, Charlie Jones does run real well. And

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Speaker 1: if you if you saw Perdues games early in the year,

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Speaker 1: they played Penn State. Uh, they had another game earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, and he just tore those defenses up.

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Speaker 1: And we can't remember who exactly was at Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: just they couldn't cover him. He's got speed out of

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Speaker 1: the slot. Um, he can line them up in different spots.

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Speaker 1: I think he is a potential uh, you know, mid

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Speaker 1: round sleeper at the wide receiver position. You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: be interested to see what he does at the UH

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Speaker 1: at the scouting combine when it comes time to run

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Speaker 1: that forty, because I expect something in the low four fours,

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Speaker 1: a six ft nine pound receiver. UM who again gets

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Speaker 1: off pressent, you can do a lot of stuff for you. UM.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of an interesting guy to watch. UM.

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Speaker 1: Another one for me is Trey Palmer at in Nebraska

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Speaker 1: did you guy him this year. I said, I know

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Speaker 1: both these names, but I don't know much about either yet.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be like a four two guy. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have her. I do know you're talking about. He's

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Speaker 1: like one of the fastest guys in this draft, and

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Speaker 1: he's a return guy and he you know, so there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff there that that guy can do.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the way, again plays out at the slot.

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Speaker 1: Uh right, it's dynamite. One doubting word. Word of warning

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Speaker 1: to you is I felt pray to this. I remember

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Speaker 1: I was watching Sonorous Moss Santana's a little brother, going

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Speaker 1: we should take this guy in the first round, and

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Speaker 1: once the older Scott was like, they're a practice here, dude,

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Speaker 1: nobody's banging him around, you know, Like, yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you're gonna make that mistake. But does anyone who's

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Speaker 1: paying attention to Senior Bowl stuff. Some of these speedster

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Speaker 1: little guys are set up to look better than they are.

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Speaker 1: But again, like like Jones, Palmer is not a little guy.

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Speaker 1: He's he's he's six foot in the hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's not Calvin Austin. He's a he's a bigger,

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Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me watching some some paper on him,

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls of George Pickens, only bigger. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pickens and Higgins are similar, but I think Higgins is

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Speaker 1: makes sense. So, I mean there's some interesting guys there.

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Speaker 1: Um see where that goes at the tight end position

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman from Ohio State, uh, Dewan Jones, and his measurements.

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Speaker 1: They were measuring his wingspan. If you look on Jim

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Speaker 1: When we've done some early mock drafts, he showed up

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Speaker 1: He's still just twenty three years old. Sure, you'd love

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Speaker 1: just needs some refinement on his in his technique. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he has the tools to develop into a starter.

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Speaker 1: They can wait that out. So I would prefer a

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Speaker 1: younger guy. Yeah. Uh, Cody Botsch is here as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's six six pounds. You know, the typical North Dakota. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic. Um, can he strength wise hold up against

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Speaker 1: what he's going to see here this weekend or this week? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mean his arms, you know, right, Um, John Michael Schmitz

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Speaker 1: time we got together about Mr Rooney's press conference. Score

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Speaker 1: more points they need a guard? Maybe not, but if

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Speaker 1: I would rather go center or tackle, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: But if he's your twenty fifth rank guy and he's

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Speaker 1: sitting there at thirty two, I'm interested. Absolutely. Darnel rights

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Speaker 1: let's be frank, there are a lot of times where

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Speaker 1: uh looking at the edge rushers, and certainly the Steelers

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Speaker 1: see what he looks like. Same thing with Will McDonald.

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Speaker 1: he's another one of those six five six six guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Does he play any defensive tackle here or they just

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Speaker 1: keep him money outside? Um, you know how the name,

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