Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, hello, it's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It is the Dan Patrick Show here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
Speaker 2: you here in for Dan and the guys. And this
Speaker 2: hour is brought to you by tire rack dot Com,
Speaker 2: the official tire expert and retailer of the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2: Go to tire rack dot com slash Dan, try the
Speaker 2: Tired Decision Guide and see the full line of Goodyear
Speaker 2: tires special offers, free road hazard protection and mobile tire installation.
Speaker 2: Tire rack dot Com the way tire buying should be.
Speaker 2: So that's that's one way to start this show here
Speaker 2: on this Thursday morning.
Speaker 3: How are we everybody?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Bad news beardness travels. It travels from Tom apparently, so apparently,
Speaker 4: you know bad news bears had knows no limits or
Speaker 4: no boundaries. You know, it just shows up where it
Speaker 4: shows up.
Speaker 5: It was Lee's birthday a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 5: I think that extended into the next stuff forty eight hours.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just interesting that it's always the usual,
Speaker 4: like our voices are connected to it, our back ends
Speaker 4: connects like we're.
Speaker 3: The bad news. But what are you getting at? I mean,
Speaker 3: I just told.
Speaker 4: You and you gotta you can't.
Speaker 3: It can't be anything other than what you are. Are
Speaker 3: you saying we are the playing games Fox Sports?
Speaker 4: In my mind, I was sitting there like it's a
Speaker 4: great segue into playing games.
Speaker 3: I mean, but you know, I don't know. In the end,
Speaker 3: the Bad News Beers did end up winning, so there's that,
Speaker 3: you know, But god, dang, they was the bad News
Speaker 3: Beers all the way up to it. Yeah. Yeah, a
Speaker 3: lot of whiffs before then, a lot of strikeout shouts
Speaker 3: out to Dallas. They won something. Huh, they did some thing.
Speaker 5: Hey, they look good, man, I mean, I know people
Speaker 5: are maybe sleeping on them, but they look good. I
Speaker 5: could see them being sneakily kind of going on a
Speaker 5: little bit of a run.
Speaker 3: You think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the West, Yeah yeah, Anthony Davis can play. The
Speaker 2: problem is how for how long?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Look, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: If he's healthy and Clay some of the other pieces
Speaker 5: they have on that team. Man, they've got some guys
Speaker 5: who've been able to navigate through the playoffs and have
Speaker 5: won championships before. Man, I'm telling you that could be
Speaker 5: a dangerous combination.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I doubt it that one. Ain't going that that's
Speaker 4: going to be a short lived you know. It's because
Speaker 4: it's short lived. Story is because it's Dallas. No, it's
Speaker 4: because the West is pretty loaded, man, and they're just
Speaker 4: not going to be able to run that one. I
Speaker 4: don't see it. I mean, it's possible, clearly, I'm not
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not an expert. So Q could come
Speaker 4: out being you know, correct on it. But I don't
Speaker 4: see it though. I just think that if you're going
Speaker 4: to look at one of the playing teams out of
Speaker 4: the West again, I'm I'm mistaking my I'm putting my
Speaker 4: ten toes down on the mountain, on the hill of
Speaker 4: the Golden State Warriors. That's That's what I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: out of the play in teams.
Speaker 6: But they would have to play each other for a while.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I don't see that being a hit
Speaker 4: to hit. I'm not saying that way. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: the team that I could see making a run out
Speaker 4: of the playing games would be Golden State.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to get excited about playing playing tournaments,
Speaker 2: and it just look to me the NBA playoffs, for
Speaker 2: the most part, we've had a couple of you know,
Speaker 2: lower seeded eight and seven teams that have that have
Speaker 2: beaten a one or a two seed a few times
Speaker 2: in the history of the postseason. It feels like the playoffs,
Speaker 2: outside of a four or five matchup and occasional six',
Speaker 2: three doesn't start until the second.
Speaker 3: ROUND i, mean these seven.
Speaker 2: Game series with your one eights and your two, Sevens it's, like,
Speaker 2: dude can we speed this up or at least make
Speaker 2: it more, intriguing make them a three game, series so
Speaker 2: at least if the lower seed gets, one you put
Speaker 2: everybody else on high alert that there could be an.
Speaker 3: Upset BUT i just.
Speaker 2: CAN'T i can't get excited about it until the second
Speaker 2: round for the most, part is what it.
Speaker 3: Is that's the way it. Goes so.
Speaker 2: Congratulations we'll find out what the final matchups are going
Speaker 2: to be after these next couple of games get, going
Speaker 2: and then we can all look forward, to you, know
Speaker 2: hopefully getting past his first round quick get to the second,
Speaker 2: round and then we can get to the teams that
Speaker 2: are actual title contenders as opposed to some of these playing.
Speaker 3: Teams but.
Speaker 2: There is the discussion that is still going, on but
Speaker 2: apparently it's coming to an. End in the world of.
Speaker 2: Sports nico has made a. Decision Not Nico, harrison all,
Speaker 2: right not. Him every Time i'm going to try this out, Again,
Speaker 2: NIKO i stop saying. It avaam has, apparently according to.
Speaker 3: The to rename. Him i'm leaving, you.
Speaker 4: And for some strange, REASON i could say that way
Speaker 4: easier than what the real way of.
Speaker 3: Saying he is reportedly is going to be A Ucla.
Speaker 2: Bruin and apparently this according To Colin, cowherd who sent
Speaker 2: this tweet out, yesterday that the family is still saying this.
Speaker 3: Is not about.
Speaker 2: Money it had nothing to do with. Money it was
Speaker 2: all about The Tennessee volunteers. Offense and so he finds
Speaker 2: himself reportedly In. Westwood he will be A Ucla. Bruin
Speaker 2: but again it's got nothing to do with money at all,
Speaker 2: whatsoever and definitely not the four million dollars that was
Speaker 2: reported they were asking for when he was making two
Speaker 2: million a change already With tennessee set for this upcoming,
Speaker 2: Year so.
Speaker 5: He's going to play for? Free is that what you're?
Speaker 5: Saying it's going to go there and be closer.
Speaker 1: To home and all.
Speaker 4: That it's not money just so everybody, knows ye playing for,
Speaker 4: free but he is playing for less money and the
Speaker 4: taxes are.
Speaker 3: Higher so there's. That, yeah it.
Speaker 5: Was it was a losing proposition all the way. Around
Speaker 5: not only would he made more money to your point
Speaker 5: too at the, taxes but now he's in a different,
Speaker 5: system not on a team that's as. TALENTED i, mean
Speaker 5: if you look At tennessee last, year which qualified for
Speaker 5: The College Football, playoff and by the, way mind, you
Speaker 5: and then this is not to be a slight On Niko,
Speaker 5: iamaliava but there's been a string of quarterbacks who have got,
Speaker 5: drafted who've been put up big numbers.
Speaker 6: There he did not play that.
Speaker 5: Well that was a defensive led, team that was a
Speaker 5: team that could tote the rock. TOO i would, say
Speaker 5: if you're looking at one of the weaker parts of their,
Speaker 5: team it was the inconsistency in the passing. Game so
Speaker 5: not only are there those kind of struggles from, that
Speaker 5: but now he goes to a lesser, team he's not
Speaker 5: getting paid as, much and he's gonna be playing having
Speaker 5: an uphill, battle playing in a conference where you, know
Speaker 5: at least they were one of the top teams in THE.
Speaker 5: Sec that's not the case FOR. Ucla you, know they
Speaker 5: kind of feel at times like they're a bit of a.
Speaker 5: Doormat now they turn things around second half of last,
Speaker 5: season but it's going to be an uphill battle in
Speaker 5: so many different ways for, him and it's. Unfortunate and
Speaker 5: whether or not his his, team whether it's his, family
Speaker 5: whether it's his, agent wants to admit. It this was
Speaker 5: an absolute disaster and it's probably a good thing for
Speaker 5: a lot of other players out there in college football
Speaker 5: that can hopefully appreciate the opportunities they've, gotten understand that
Speaker 5: the grass is not always, greener and try to you,
Speaker 5: know what's the saying that, levars you, know be where
Speaker 5: your feet are or stand where your fet a.
Speaker 4: Or whatever something to that. Effect, yeah be. Present being
Speaker 4: present is being where your feet. Are, yeah that's. YEAH
Speaker 4: i mean why try to be somewhere where you're not
Speaker 4: be at where your feet. At be at where your feet. At,
Speaker 4: see that's what happens when you take time, off you
Speaker 4: know WHAT i? Mean you get rusky with your delivery
Speaker 4: talking about how is? Smooth then they sound a little bit.
Speaker 4: Capta that's not a real.
Speaker 3: Thing all.
Speaker 4: Right, no All i'm gonna say Is i'm happy for
Speaker 4: Coach foster because while people may rain down on The
Speaker 4: Nico i'm leaving you, parade you, know on his, camp
Speaker 4: the kid can play, ball and people can have their
Speaker 4: opinions about him and how good and how well he
Speaker 4: can play, Ball but the guy can play Some he
Speaker 4: can play, football and he was dealing at times last
Speaker 4: year For tennessee and probably would have had another good,
Speaker 4: year good season under them this season if he were
Speaker 4: still to be. There, now you go into a program
Speaker 4: where they they have needed to be able to get
Speaker 4: a break in order to have the opportunity to get
Speaker 4: a player of his, caliber you, know wanting to come
Speaker 4: there and play a position of such the magnitude of
Speaker 4: what the quarterback's position. Is, so you, know opportunity created
Speaker 4: an or circumstance that's created an opportunity for u c L.
Speaker 4: A u c L a is not a major player
Speaker 4: in the NI l. Space you're not going to get
Speaker 4: u c L a for academic, purposes just as well
Speaker 4: as just available funding for NI l for. Football you're
Speaker 4: just not going to get elite level, offers elite level.
Speaker 4: Money in, fact even prior to N I L you're
Speaker 4: not going to get A you're you're only going to
Speaker 4: get a certain level of player because of the academic
Speaker 4: requirements that they place on the guys that they bring in.
Speaker 4: There so it's like kind of like guys go TO
Speaker 4: usc that don't go to u c L. A and
Speaker 4: if you understand like the politics of what goes on
Speaker 4: at u c L, a you'd understand like it's kind
Speaker 4: of like they run things almost like A Ivy league
Speaker 4: type level school. Academically SO i think it's a great
Speaker 4: gift For Deshaun. WATSON i don't, know fossil, student this Is. Deshaun,
Speaker 4: geez he's where AM i right? Now thank you for
Speaker 4: that save QU i think it's a great gift for
Speaker 4: Coach foster and damn.
Speaker 3: Keep him away from the towns.
Speaker 6: To worry.
Speaker 4: About, yeah it, does H BUT i think this is
Speaker 4: a great gift for u c L. A and if
Speaker 4: they were going to be a pretty good team going
Speaker 4: into this, SEASON i think you can actually, say based
Speaker 4: upon the circumstances that That Nico i'm leaving you is
Speaker 4: is living under. NOW i think they're gonna get his
Speaker 4: best version because he's going to be on you, know
Speaker 4: he's going to be on guard to everything that's taking.
Speaker 4: Place there's gonna be a lot of, criticism a lot of,
Speaker 4: scrutiny a lot of coverage that comes his way because
Speaker 4: what he did kind of transcends just playing the. Game
Speaker 4: it has open in the conversation two larger pieces of
Speaker 4: what's going on in college football and sports all. Together
Speaker 4: SO i think that it's a it's an advantageous opportunity
Speaker 4: For nico to try to redeem himself and maybe repair
Speaker 4: his image with what's taking place as of. Late and
Speaker 4: it's a great opportunity FOR ucla to be a better
Speaker 4: program with what would be considered to be a top
Speaker 4: elite type of quarterback on their on their. Roster and
Speaker 4: it's not going to cost him a whole. Lot, apparently,
Speaker 4: well they got. It they got him on the. Cheap
Speaker 4: they got it was like two hundred and fifty less
Speaker 4: or something like.
Speaker 3: That they got him on a discount. Level what was
Speaker 3: it like.
Speaker 5: Almost, well the number of the FIGURE i saw was
Speaker 5: one point seventy five and he was scheduled to make
Speaker 5: two point.
Speaker 6: Six so he's almost a million sure of what he
Speaker 6: would have.
Speaker 5: Made and that's not including to your earlier point. Taxes
Speaker 5: by the, Way nico was like maybe top ten in
Speaker 5: THE sec last, year like as far as yards and all. That,
Speaker 5: again going back to the, point you really didn't play overly,
Speaker 5: Well now he's joining in an offense IN ucla that
Speaker 5: was one hundred and twenty sixth in scoring last.
Speaker 6: Year there were one hundred and seventh in the country
Speaker 6: in sacks. Allowed so the protection AND i know that
Speaker 6: was like an.
Speaker 5: ISSUE i think that came up in some of these reports,
Speaker 5: too is, that, hey it's not AN nfl, Systems, like,
Speaker 5: well you knew that.
Speaker 6: On your way.
Speaker 5: In Joe milton got, Drafted Hendon hooker got. Drafted there's
Speaker 5: been other quarterbacks who've gone To tennessee and gotten. Drafted
Speaker 5: so it's not like that's held against those. Quarterbacks if
Speaker 5: that was your concern or that's part of the rationale
Speaker 5: for why you, Left you've gotten guys to THE nfl
Speaker 5: level and they've put up good. Stats and mind, you
Speaker 5: there's plenty of other quarterbacks that have played in systems
Speaker 5: that AREN'T nfl systems and have also gotten. Drafted so
Speaker 5: if that was part of the, rationale it doesn't make any.
Speaker 5: Sense and again going back to the initial. Point he
Speaker 5: hasn't even performed to a point where you felt confident
Speaker 5: about him to be able to go somewhere, else learn
Speaker 5: a new, system learn new, chemistry develop all those, things
Speaker 5: and now he's doing it with lesser pieces around him
Speaker 5: in a league that arguably you'd say they're at at
Speaker 5: the bottom of the league or one of the teams
Speaker 5: at the. Bottom SO i just FEEL i feel bad
Speaker 5: for the young man because at some point you've got
Speaker 5: to make your own decisions in, life and this is
Speaker 5: one WHERE i don't know who was in his, ear
Speaker 5: AND i know that someone made some anonymous report or
Speaker 5: someone close to the family WHATEVER i believe On Front Office,
Speaker 5: sports which if that's even, Credible but the truth of
Speaker 5: the matter is he should have stood up and, Said i'm,
Speaker 5: good like my payday is coming after this year WHEN
Speaker 5: i go to THE. Nfl and unfortunately now it's, like
Speaker 5: we'll see how this year. Goes but maybe he's a
Speaker 5: couple of years now from leaving and be able to
Speaker 5: go to get draft in THE. Nfl who knows how
Speaker 5: this whole thing's gonna.
Speaker 2: Shakeout so he's in a worse, situation and he took
Speaker 2: what like a seven hundred thousand dollars pay cut in
Speaker 2: less than a, week and now he's Got, yeah now
Speaker 2: he's just got to kind of it feels like with anything,
Speaker 2: new there's got to be something that's the example of
Speaker 2: what not to, do and he's the example of what
Speaker 2: not to. Do like he's the one that all right,
Speaker 2: now everybody kind of has an. Understanding AND i do
Speaker 2: wonder if there's probably coaches and programs that are that
Speaker 2: are pointing to, this going, hey, guys just so you,
Speaker 2: know like this is how things could turn really badly for.
Speaker 2: You you could go from AN sec quarterback and at
Speaker 2: a great program who was a playoff team a year ago.
Speaker 3: TO ucla like.
Speaker 4: That this is limited to such a small minute number
Speaker 4: of players for this to even apply. To this is
Speaker 4: not going to apply to anyone else but qbs at
Speaker 4: major major universities and. Receivers that's about. It that's about.
Speaker 4: It that's who this is limited. To you're not going
Speaker 4: to see it take place with anybody. Else you could
Speaker 4: be as gifted a football player on the defensive side
Speaker 4: of the, ball not going to. Happen you could be
Speaker 4: as gifted as you'd like to be on the offensive
Speaker 4: line it's not going to happen running, back same, thing tight,
Speaker 4: end forget about. It if you're quarterback at AN sec,
Speaker 4: school A big ten, school maybe in some instances AN acc,
Speaker 4: school you have the ability to possibly push the envelope
Speaker 4: on these types of. Conversations not saying that negotiations don't
Speaker 4: exist for the other.
Speaker 3: Positions it's just not the.
Speaker 4: Same AND i think one thing that we got to
Speaker 4: make sure we're clear on in this, scenario AND i
Speaker 4: was listening To kurt Herb street and what he had
Speaker 4: to say ABOUT nil With pat, McAfee AND i thought
Speaker 4: it was very very well put in thought, out is
Speaker 4: that this is turning into negotiations against schools and. Players
Speaker 4: in this, instance you're looking At nico getting into a
Speaker 4: a negotiation Between tennessee and himself when in, REALITY nil
Speaker 4: is in place for you to benefit with your, name your,
Speaker 4: image and your. Likeness that's that's getting money through your.
Speaker 4: Collective that's that's doing, appearances that's that's MAKING i, Mean
Speaker 4: i'm just saying that's that's what it.
Speaker 5: Was, well this is WHY i wouldn't include the collectives
Speaker 5: is part of. IT i think the collectives are part
Speaker 5: of the issue because the. Collectives by and, large how
Speaker 5: they've operated are groups of boosters who are essentially taking
Speaker 5: private money and being able, to you, know help compensate
Speaker 5: and create opportunities for players and that in that, fashion
Speaker 5: and they're doing it for the university because there wasn't
Speaker 5: pay for plash sure or pay to, play which the
Speaker 5: truth is is, like that's what it's always been since
Speaker 5: it's been, enacted and even before, that when teams and
Speaker 5: boosters are paying kids under the.
Speaker 6: Table it's all aways been paid to.
Speaker 5: Play, like if we want to take anil step, further
Speaker 5: what's always bothered me about it is if you're not,
Speaker 5: playing you're not getting. Paid so even if you want
Speaker 5: to try to, say, well, oh it's really about marketing, dollars,
Speaker 5: Right it's really about those opportunities to promote brands or do,
Speaker 5: commercials or do social media postings and do appearances and all.
Speaker 5: That does anyone care about you if you're not, playing
Speaker 5: if you're not out there, performing if you're not one
Speaker 5: of the best. Players, No, so in, essence it's always
Speaker 5: really been about getting paid because you. Play but we
Speaker 5: we created this world in which we had to create
Speaker 5: loopholes and other ways in which we could find ways
Speaker 5: of you, know getting players money that was within the
Speaker 5: rules of you know what was passed by The Supreme.
Speaker 6: Court i've said this and will always say. THIS nil
Speaker 6: has never been.
Speaker 5: Sustainable the way it was created and the way it's
Speaker 5: been implemented wasn't the initial. Purpose but the problem with
Speaker 5: the initial purposes you're kind of putting the cart before the.
Speaker 5: Horse it always should have been a rev. Share it
Speaker 5: always should have been THE tv money that these conferences
Speaker 5: and schools were getting were shared with those student athletes
Speaker 5: who are the ones actually earning. It and then you
Speaker 5: could have IMPLEMENTED nil and you could have, said these
Speaker 5: marketing dollars from name your apparel, company under, Armor, nike
Speaker 5: whoever it's, created or name, whatever a sports, dring whatever
Speaker 5: else it, is then that comes as part of, it
Speaker 5: because that's the professional. Model look at THE, nfl look
Speaker 5: at THE, nba look at all these other professional. Leagues
Speaker 5: you are paid by your, organization and then you have
Speaker 5: all that as kind of your ancillary income that comes
Speaker 5: off of.
Speaker 6: That but don't get it. Twisted it is about your
Speaker 6: ability to.
Speaker 5: Play and that's one of the reasons, why like it's
Speaker 5: it's always been backwards it's never made, sense and it's
Speaker 5: why it's been a little bit of a chaotic mess.
Speaker 5: Too is the essence of why we're compensating student athletes
Speaker 5: in the first. Place it's all about their. Performance it's
Speaker 5: all about their. Play, well if that's the, case then
Speaker 5: make it a structure that actually makes sense and it's.
Speaker 5: Lasting and you have examples of that at every professional.
Speaker 4: LEVEL i just, THINK i, mean it's. Funny, coincidentally we
Speaker 4: were going over Man man's you know situation just. Yesterday
Speaker 4: What man so like three contracts bro three contracts that
Speaker 4: you got to go, through three separate entities of contracts
Speaker 4: that you have to go through as it applies to
Speaker 4: these nil well not even just an, il but just
Speaker 4: the way the kids are. Compensated there's like three different
Speaker 4: agreements and and one is the, collective you, know another
Speaker 4: is this. Entity another is the school. Entity and it's
Speaker 4: interesting to, me like looking at how all of it is.
Speaker 4: Structured are you really suppor to point and aim your
Speaker 4: frustration or YOUR i guess what your demands, are what
Speaker 4: your expectations are to be compensated at the team, itself
Speaker 4: at the head, coach at at you, know At tennessee
Speaker 4: or wherever it is that you're. At because to, me
Speaker 4: again it comes back down to with these blurred lines
Speaker 4: of what this is all representation of what DOES nil
Speaker 4: really Represent because at the end of the, day if
Speaker 4: we're talking, apples if it's an apples the apples, conversation
Speaker 4: then you got to talk about compensating the. Player like
Speaker 4: you just, said you're paying based off of what you're
Speaker 4: generating at off of THE tv deals and stuff like.
Speaker 4: That there's no there's nothing that comes out, that like
Speaker 4: in a pro contract that talks about, name image and.
Speaker 4: Likeness you do that with The Players. Association you sign
Speaker 4: a group license and agreement with The Players. Association that's
Speaker 4: how you leverage your, name image and. Likeness it's a
Speaker 4: different entity. Altogether so the blurred lines that have been
Speaker 4: created AND i think that are exposed here in this
Speaker 4: situation in, particular there's no reason for them for him
Speaker 4: to have taken a hard line stance Like i'm not,
Speaker 4: Practicing i'm not coming unless y'all pay me more. Money,
Speaker 4: sure the collectives are in contact with the, university and
Speaker 4: the universities are in contact with the, collectives and this
Speaker 4: is a way for them to be able to compensate the,
Speaker 4: players but, ultimately if we're looking at it for the
Speaker 4: true essence of WHAT nil has created as it applies to,
Speaker 4: today right, now you're monetizing your the value of your,
Speaker 4: name your, image and your. Likeness so even if it's
Speaker 4: coming from a collective in the sense of we're able
Speaker 4: to pay them to be a part of our, team
Speaker 4: but you're going to do x amount of, Appearances you're
Speaker 4: going to do, signings you're going to do things that
Speaker 4: support what we're doing to build this. Program bottom line
Speaker 4: is is that there needs to be a separation and
Speaker 4: there needs to be an understanding of what the business
Speaker 4: of what you are as a player to the university
Speaker 4: and what you are as an entity and a. Brand
Speaker 4: all of it's all on its. Own as in a,
Speaker 4: name your, image and your, likeness there needs to be
Speaker 4: a very clear understanding and determination of or OR i
Speaker 4: guess not, determination but description of what each one of those.
Speaker 4: Represent BECAUSE i think this right, here this clearly shows
Speaker 4: that there is not a separation and and and there's
Speaker 4: how do you how do you read in between the
Speaker 4: lines of where the collectives and how you're getting compensated
Speaker 4: for your, name image and likeness runs and bleeds into
Speaker 4: who you are as an athlete and a student at
Speaker 4: the university that you're.
Speaker 5: At it's such the lion's, share by the, way will
Speaker 5: come from the revenue. Share that's where most of the
Speaker 5: kids will make the majority of the. Money, now if
Speaker 5: the collectives exist and they really feel like they want
Speaker 5: a high star kid or you, know a big performer
Speaker 5: that transfers or, something they might be able, to you,
Speaker 5: know come in there with some sort of whatever package
Speaker 5: and marketing or whatever else they want to. Do but
Speaker 5: the reality is it should be that they're getting compensated
Speaker 5: the most from their school based on the revenue. Share
Speaker 5: like that's the. Setup that's how this should work moving.
Speaker 5: Forward any other model is not really sustainable and it
Speaker 5: doesn't really make sense either when you're thinking about. It you,
Speaker 5: know is any other athlete getting paid more from their
Speaker 5: marketing deal as opposed to what they're making to actually
Speaker 5: play their?
Speaker 6: Sport?
Speaker 4: No Maybe Travis. Hunter Maybe Travis. Hunter, maybe well he,
Speaker 4: won't he won't once he's the number two. Overall pick, right, correct, right,
Speaker 4: right right. Correct, yeah it's it's, sad. MAN i think it's.
Speaker 4: Sad there's a lot a lot of moving parts to.
Speaker 4: It but, hey he found a place to go play
Speaker 4: and he's still going to get some some cash out
Speaker 4: of the. SITUATION i don't you know, which it's not
Speaker 4: about the, cash right Enjoy.
Speaker 3: Westwood there you.
Speaker 2: Go it is the M Patrick show here On Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Radio two pros and a cup Of Joe, LaVar, Arrington Brady,
Speaker 2: Quinn Jonas knox in For dan and the guys coming
Speaker 2: up next here though apparently some mixed. Feelings we got
Speaker 2: some mixed feelings about a top prospect in the. Draft
Speaker 2: we'll get into that for you right here On Fox Sports.
Speaker 1: Radio Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup
Speaker 1: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports
Speaker 1: radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio app SEARCH fsr
Speaker 1: to listen.
Speaker 7: Live, Hey Steve covino And I'm Rich david and together
Speaker 7: We're covino And rich On Fox Sports.
Speaker 3: Radio you could catch us.
Speaker 7: Weekdays from five to seven Pm eastern two to Four
Speaker 7: pacific On Fox Sports radio and of course The iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: App why should you listen To covino And.
Speaker 7: Rich we talk about everything, life, sports, relationships what's going
Speaker 7: on in the. World we have a lot of fun
Speaker 7: talking about the stories behind the stories in the world
Speaker 7: of sports and pop, culture stories that well other shows
Speaker 7: don't seem to have the time to. Discuss and the
Speaker 7: fact that we've been friends for the last twenty years
Speaker 7: and still work. TOGETHER i mean that says, something, Right
Speaker 7: so check us. Out we like to get you involved,
Speaker 7: Too take your phone, calls chop it.
Speaker 3: Up as they, Say.
Speaker 7: I'd, say the most interactive show On Fox Sports, radio
Speaker 7: maybe the most interactive show on Planetar be sure to
Speaker 7: check Out covino And rich live On Fox Sports radio
Speaker 7: and The iHeartRadio app from five to seven Pm eastern
Speaker 7: two to Four, Pacific and if you miss any of
Speaker 7: the live, show just Search covin On rich wherever you
Speaker 7: get your, podcast and of course on social.
Speaker 3: Media That's covino And. Rich it's The Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2: Show Here Fox Sports, Radio LaVar, Arrington Brady, Quinn Jonas
Speaker 2: knox with. You coming up a little over fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: from now somebody in the world of sports is having
Speaker 2: to apologize for brutal.
Speaker 3: Honesty we'll get into that for you.
Speaker 2: Again that's over fifteen minutes from now here on THE
Speaker 2: dp Show Man Albert breer is really asking for. It
Speaker 2: i'll tell You we're going to hear From Albert breer
Speaker 2: coming up later on in the. Show But Albert breer
Speaker 2: wrote this About Shador sanders, Quote i'm having a really
Speaker 2: hard time finding coaches or scouts who Believe sanders is
Speaker 2: a first round. Talent, this by the, way is separate
Speaker 2: from any issue anyone has with this. Personality those questions,
Speaker 2: exist but lots of teams have made exceptions in that
Speaker 2: department in the past to take on guys with special.
Speaker 2: Talents the problem seems to be that too many folks
Speaker 2: Think sanders.
Speaker 3: Lacks those type of.
Speaker 2: Gifts SO i mean he's next up on the diondor
Speaker 2: hit list because they will pinpoint this and they will
Speaker 2: go After Albert, breer especially if he comes out and
Speaker 2: he has a good rookie. Season SO i don't know
Speaker 2: if this means that he's going to slip past The
Speaker 2: New Orleans saints in the first.
Speaker 3: Round but here we.
Speaker 2: Go more doubt is crept in about the ability Of Shador.
Speaker 2: Sanders at this. POINT i can't even keep track of
Speaker 2: how many reports there are on draft prospects who entire
Speaker 2: career is to determined on which organization isn't such a
Speaker 2: disaster that it spoils their chance of being a good
Speaker 2: player in the.
Speaker 3: League Que i'll take. It H, Listen i'll say.
Speaker 4: THIS i Think Shador sanders is a, product And i'll
Speaker 4: say it's a byproduct because there's a ton of, positive
Speaker 4: but there's also enough negative where it impacts the way he's.
Speaker 4: Viewed it's probably impacting the way that he is being.
Speaker 4: Evaluated there's just a lot connected to the product of
Speaker 4: being the son Of Dion. Sanders AND i think that
Speaker 4: they have taken such fearless approaches to how they do
Speaker 4: things from the way they start it until, now and
Speaker 4: it's a take no prisoner's type of, approach like they
Speaker 4: don't care what people. Think they clearly feel as though
Speaker 4: that the criticisms are are you, know they're prepared for.
Speaker 4: It they're okay with, it they understand, it and it's
Speaker 4: not something that they feel like they're new to based
Speaker 4: upon what their father has experienced during his time and now,
Speaker 4: they're you, know it being their time the kids turn
Speaker 4: to have at. It but getting this close to the
Speaker 4: draft and having you, know the announcement that his jersey
Speaker 4: is going to be retired along With Travis hunter who
Speaker 4: won The, HEISMAN i just think that there continues to
Speaker 4: be maybe WHAT i would, say managing his brand and
Speaker 4: managing him as it applies to making him as attractive
Speaker 4: in this draft scenario as you possibly can has gone horribly,
Speaker 4: wrong and it could play out in a positive manner
Speaker 4: where he plays well wherever it is that he gets drafted.
Speaker 4: To it could play out where he gets an opportunity
Speaker 4: to actually go in and learn the system and learn
Speaker 4: how to be a pro without having all of the
Speaker 4: pressure of being a number, one number, two number three
Speaker 4: overall pick in the. Draft and he gets the final
Speaker 4: laugh on all of. This but the reality of it
Speaker 4: is is that this is nothing. New the scrutiny and
Speaker 4: the criticisms that are lobbed towards top prospects going into the,
Speaker 4: draft it's not, new and so for us to be
Speaker 4: here With Shador, SANDERS i think there's so much more
Speaker 4: that is being, considered even though even though the reports
Speaker 4: are being being focused in on the. FIELD i think
Speaker 4: it's a justification in people's minds to be able to
Speaker 4: Criticize Shador sanders and not make it sound like it's
Speaker 4: a personal attack towards him or a personal attack based
Speaker 4: off of how you feel about his. Father BUT i
Speaker 4: certainly think that that is what this is all, about
Speaker 4: because it's such a large it's such a large scale
Speaker 4: on where people fall On Shador sanders from being a
Speaker 4: top draft pick prospect talent to not being a top
Speaker 4: pick prospect. Talent and what's it based? Upon he has
Speaker 4: had his, Success he has done well with what his
Speaker 4: opportunities have. Been should the criticisms be as fierce and
Speaker 4: as intense as they are going Towards Shadoor? Sanders what
Speaker 4: has he really done that would warrant him to be
Speaker 4: looked at as a possibility of a problem other than
Speaker 4: showing his watch on his, wrists other than.
Speaker 3: Being very very perfect time.
Speaker 4: Doing his, music you, know whatever it may, be what
Speaker 4: have we Really shador doesn't get in trouble off the.
Speaker 4: Field we never heard of him getting in trouble off the.
Speaker 4: Field so if you're calling his character into you, know
Speaker 4: into question as it applies to how will he?
Speaker 3: FIT i think it's purely based off of.
Speaker 4: How you feel his persona comes across to, you and
Speaker 4: that in a way is personal if you ask, me
Speaker 4: this is turned personal Against Shador sanders and in the
Speaker 4: way that he's being.
Speaker 3: Reported on AND i don't think that that bringing that
Speaker 3: are you bringing?
Speaker 6: Back it is?
Speaker 4: Personal, uh IT'S i mean that's something that they made, it,
Speaker 4: RIGHT i mean that wasn't that What? Colorado, YEAH i
Speaker 4: MEAN i DON'T i think it was year. One.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 4: Personal people have made it personal with The sanders, family
Speaker 4: AND i can't say it's NOT i hate to say,
Speaker 4: it but because they put the target on themselves with
Speaker 4: how they do, THINGS i can't say it's not warranted
Speaker 4: because that's just how media.
Speaker 6: Works, YEAH i, mean, here here's the.
Speaker 5: Reality you, Know Travis, hunter no one's gonna ever second,
Speaker 5: guess and him getting his number. Retired petro's brought up deon,
Speaker 5: figures and the more you look into, that you're kind of, like, oh,
Speaker 5: yeah miss that. One like if you were going to
Speaker 5: retire a number, two that's probably the one you'd want
Speaker 5: to do it, for given his career during his time
Speaker 5: At colorado and even the team's. Success so there is
Speaker 5: the harsh reality of that. Comparison now that's not gonna
Speaker 5: take away from the records that should do or broke
Speaker 5: as a quarterback and the way they've uplifted THE cu,
Speaker 5: program but the timing of it, two which you brought, Up.
Speaker 6: LeVar i mean there's other.
Speaker 5: Guys Rashaan salam again won The, heisman didn't get his
Speaker 5: retire till twenty.
Speaker 6: SEVENTEEN i mean he had to.
Speaker 5: Wait so, LOOK i mean my immediate response to that's probably,
Speaker 5: LIKE i don't, know you, know After Coach prime, leaves
Speaker 5: see you if they're ever gonna go back. There so it's, like,
Speaker 5: well you might as well audit them all though there you,
Speaker 5: know there's that element of, Things but there's also the
Speaker 5: thoughts too as far as and this is probably for
Speaker 5: another segment because we're up against, it but as far
Speaker 5: as the evaluation of him as a, prospect And i'll
Speaker 5: just be very open about.
Speaker 6: THIS i liked him as the best quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 5: Class AND i liked it BECAUSE i think his game
Speaker 5: translates to THE nfl level based on his, accuracy based
Speaker 5: ON i, think you, know athletically what he can. Do,
Speaker 5: now he's not as dynamic of an athlete as Cam
Speaker 5: ward and make some of those, plays doesn't have a
Speaker 5: strung of an, arm but he can still make all
Speaker 5: the throws and he can still do things and layer
Speaker 5: throws THAT i feel like is easily, comparable if, not you,
Speaker 5: know better in regards to decision making than even some
Speaker 5: of what Cam wore. Did so there's there's elements THAT
Speaker 5: i think in his game that can translate really. Well
Speaker 5: and maybe he hands up in a better situation because
Speaker 5: of where he gets. Drafted maybe that's part of the
Speaker 5: brilliance of what they're trying to do with. This BUT
Speaker 5: i will say this, TOO i don't think he's hiding
Speaker 5: who he. IS i, Mean i'll be real with. You
Speaker 5: there's a lot of guys WHO i met through the
Speaker 5: dry process that we're trying to hide who they. Were
Speaker 5: bad character, guys guys who honestly didn't really work that,
Speaker 5: hard and we're trying to put on this facade of
Speaker 5: that they were something until they got. Drafted then once
Speaker 5: they got, drafted they reverted right back to what they.
Speaker 5: WERE i don't think Anything Shador sanders has advertised about
Speaker 5: himself is not, genuine is not a window into who he,
Speaker 5: is And i'd much rather have that If i'm a
Speaker 5: team and taking On Shador, sanders then having him get
Speaker 5: there and all of a sudden you start seeing all this,
Speaker 5: Stuff you're, like, wait who is this?
Speaker 6: Guy so to me at.
Speaker 5: LEAST i appreciate the fact that he's been genuine about
Speaker 5: who he. Is he's not trying to hide.
Speaker 4: ANYTHING i just don't think that people should underestimate a locker,
Speaker 4: room the influence and the power of a locker. Room
Speaker 4: AND i don't care what your position. Is When Shador
Speaker 4: sanders walks into the locker room of the team that
Speaker 4: brings him, on there is going to be at least
Speaker 4: a handful of veterans that are going to have an
Speaker 4: impact and an influence on, him whether he likes it or.
Speaker 4: Not and that's a, real, like that's very. Real you're.
Speaker 4: NOW i Heard Cam newton talking about how he went
Speaker 4: into a loser mentality locker room when he got, drafted
Speaker 4: and those things had to change, eventually, this, that and the.
Speaker 3: Other but let me tell you.
Speaker 4: Something when you look at some of the veterans that
Speaker 4: are in some of these locker, rooms whether the team
Speaker 4: has a losing culture or, not they're. Not just because
Speaker 4: you have a losing culture doesn't mean that the players
Speaker 4: and the people in those.
Speaker 3: Locker rooms are.
Speaker 4: Losers there's a lot of other elements that go into
Speaker 4: and play a part of why a team suffers and
Speaker 4: why a team comes up short and doesn't. Win SO
Speaker 4: i just think that we're when people go too far
Speaker 4: off into making their judgments off of how will he
Speaker 4: integrate into the locker. Room this is not high, school
Speaker 4: this is not. College these are grown ass men that
Speaker 4: are all getting paid that some of them have. Families
Speaker 4: some of these, guys by the time they're almost, done
Speaker 4: their granddads like they're. Old SO i don't think people
Speaker 4: need to continue to act as though we need to
Speaker 4: handle people with baby gloves in terms of oh my,
Speaker 4: gosh like what will he be what will this personality
Speaker 4: be like when he gets into the locker? Rooms, like
Speaker 4: don't base your judgments off of the. Player if you
Speaker 4: think that a players too arrogant or to this or to.
Speaker 4: That there's been plenty of players that have arrogance about,
Speaker 4: them plenty of players that have exuded the confidence that
Speaker 4: That Shador sanders is putting out.
Speaker 3: There it's just how it's.
Speaker 4: Perceived abdul has told people the entire, Time i'm the
Speaker 4: number one, prospect. PERIOD i should know number. One i'm number.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 4: People, well people aren't losing their minds Over abdul declare
Speaker 4: that he's the best. Player But Shador sanders says that
Speaker 4: he's not a first round draft pick. Material we don't
Speaker 4: know if he's even going to go in the top.
Speaker 4: Ten we don't even know if he's going to go
Speaker 4: in the first. Round, like come, on is.
Speaker 6: It Mike, roch who had that, report seemed to tickle
Speaker 6: a little.
Speaker 2: Bit he.
Speaker 4: DID i, mean you, know this audience may not be
Speaker 4: up on game that you guys were. Playing they don't
Speaker 4: read packer blitz dot.
Speaker 3: Next, no no they.
Speaker 4: DON'T i think that's a pretty funny. One but this
Speaker 4: is a different. Audience so let's move on.
Speaker 3: Front you, know you're a little slow on the draw
Speaker 3: today or a. Partner why is? That i'm like four
Speaker 3: up on? You oh, oh, well because you're. Rested you, know.
Speaker 4: This audience may not know that you haven't been on
Speaker 4: camera or ON tv or on. Radio uh for the
Speaker 4: let the whole entire. Week so the shows to come
Speaker 4: in on the back, end you, KNOW q had to
Speaker 4: carry the load for.
Speaker 2: You you. Know coming up next here, though on The
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick, show we're going to tell you about somebody
Speaker 2: who's having to apologize for being brutally.
Speaker 3: Honest right here ON.
Speaker 1: Fsr be sure to catch the live edition Of The
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick show weekdays at nine Am eastern six Am
Speaker 1: pacific On Fox Sports radio and The iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: App it's The Dan Patrick show here On Fox Sports. Radio.
Speaker 2: Damn coming up top of next Hour here a little
Speaker 2: over ten minutes from, now we are going to tell
Speaker 2: you about one team in THE nfl who's thrown out
Speaker 2: a bunch of different options in the. Draft we've got
Speaker 2: a lot of different options that are out there for,
Speaker 2: them all in, play very high up in THE Nfl.
Speaker 2: Draft that'll be yours here ON. FSR a reminder shortly
Speaker 2: after the, show the podcast will be going. Up if
Speaker 2: you've missed any of today's, show be sure to check
Speaker 2: out the pod Search Dan patrick or Two pros wherever
Speaker 2: you get your. Podcast be sure to also follow Rate
Speaker 2: orton review the podcast they get to Search Dan patrick
Speaker 2: or Two pros wherever you get your. Podcast you'll see
Speaker 2: today show posted right after we get off the, air
Speaker 2: and for that we turn it over to our executive,
Speaker 2: Producer lea Lap good.
Speaker 8: More than, Everybody, good more Than, Jonas good, Morning, LeVar
Speaker 8: good Morning, brady. Guys in case you missed, this a
Speaker 8: story out of the world Of, Tennis british tennis Player
Speaker 8: Harriet dart was hurt on courtside microphones talking.
Speaker 3: Some bs on her.
Speaker 8: Opponent she talked to the umpire and asked the umpire
Speaker 8: to please tell the opponent to wear deodorant because she.
Speaker 3: Smells can you tell her to where the? Owneran she
Speaker 3: smells really? Bad is what she had to.
Speaker 8: Say she ended up losing to her, Opponent Lois, boyson
Speaker 8: and it issued apology afterwards On, instagram SAYING i want
Speaker 8: to apologize for WHAT i said on the court. Today
Speaker 8: it was a heat of the moment comment THAT i truly.
Speaker 8: Regret that's not HOW i want to carry, myself AND
Speaker 8: i take full. RESPONSIBILITY i have a lot of respect
Speaker 8: For lois and how she competed. Today i'll learn from
Speaker 8: what from this moving. FORWARD i, mean you have to
Speaker 8: issue out that type of.
Speaker 4: You got to issue out that type of a statement
Speaker 4: due to somebody's personal had you clearly it's.
Speaker 3: True. Bruh this world is losing, it.
Speaker 2: Bruh how often do you tell somebody they smell and
Speaker 2: it wasn't? True like why would why would you say
Speaker 2: it if it wasn't?
Speaker 4: True if you are that funky where you got where
Speaker 4: you gotta say it's disrespectful to the match. Itself you.
Speaker 4: Stink i'm not apologizing for. You that could have gave
Speaker 4: you a competitive. Edge that's supposed to be a gentleman
Speaker 4: and a gentle woman's is a mutually respectful.
Speaker 3: Deal why do you smell like?
Speaker 1: That wash your?
Speaker 3: Ass how about? That how about you take me into consideration.
Speaker 3: Here you're Maybe lois.
Speaker 4: Needs to be apologizing for putting you in a position
Speaker 4: to have to apologize because people.
Speaker 3: So got the Sensitive there are some people just don't
Speaker 3: wash your funky. Ass there are people who prefer just
Speaker 3: not to wear, deodorant which is one of the weirdest
Speaker 3: Things i've ever. Heard, well they say it because it's
Speaker 3: a health. Risk you know it Causes they, say, what.
Speaker 2: You got?
Speaker 3: Options there's aluminum pre, deodorant like there's.
Speaker 4: Options, well you got options to be able to play
Speaker 4: around people and be around people as.
Speaker 3: Well if you choose to be funky and.
Speaker 4: Somebody isn't really up for it and want to wants
Speaker 4: to be a part of, it you got to be
Speaker 4: ready to have those conversations.
Speaker 3: Too that's. Fine it's fine if you don't want to
Speaker 3: use it for health, purposes that's. Great but if your
Speaker 3: lack of.
Speaker 4: Saying if your lack of smell is impacting me and
Speaker 4: my personal my, health and that's an.
Speaker 3: ISSUE i have a. Rule if you smell electric chair.
Speaker 4: Dang if you, smell you must go to jail a
Speaker 4: trial in anything
Speaker 3: You smelly ass guilty