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Speaker 1: win at Telscope Points. This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carmen

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Speaker 1: Evening Friends, Can Carmen alongside of Gerge Cherry. It is

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Preview Show all along the University Hospitals

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network Drive, Good Evening, Friend, Good evening, Kenneth.

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Speaker 1: I hope you have your goloshes for Saturday. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: it certainly did. And I think Jones and Company and

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Speaker 1: other guys along with Fields and other people who played

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Speaker 1: a part in that helped the cost running game is

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Speaker 1: going to be a premium coming up on Saturday, I

432
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Speaker 1: know it. Now. We will see if Nick Chubb is

433
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Speaker 1: able to go. We hope he's able to go. If not,

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Jerome Ford will be a part of that

435
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Speaker 1: and Ernest Johnson to be a part of that as well.

436
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Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of Ernest Johnson. What

437
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Speaker 1: if they can get Ethan Postic back, I mean he

438
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Speaker 1: was Nathan I believe told us he was the number

439
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Speaker 1: two center in in in Pro Football focus either way

440
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Speaker 1: he's been, Yeah, he's been. He's been one of the

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Speaker 1: premier centers in the lead. If they can get him back,

442
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Speaker 1: how much does that change that Russian Attech for the Browns. Ah,

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting Ken in this regard, you just started

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Speaker 1: getting a rhythm with fro Hote and Watson and so

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Speaker 1: now to work posting Who's who's better at it than

446
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Speaker 1: fro Hoe. But within again, I'm not taking away from

447
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Speaker 1: Froe saying that, of course, because I mean posted was

448
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Speaker 1: on his way to the Pro Bowl. He certainly was

449
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, weekend and week out,

450
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Speaker 1: he was dominating and doing things that just made our

451
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Speaker 1: running games special. And then when he went away, you

452
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Speaker 1: saw the running game do what go down? I think

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Speaker 1: that part of it, like last week, you know, watching

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Speaker 1: the Ravens game, it's gonna be. It's it's difficult to

455
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Speaker 1: say it because I've I've liked, I've really i've liked what.

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Speaker 1: Hold off on that conversation for just a moment. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the hotline. We'll have a quick conversation with

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Speaker 1: Brownze wide receiver Daln Baldwin, who joined us right now

459
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Speaker 1: on the show. Dylan, thanks for joining us. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for dayla. We're glad to have

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Speaker 1: you here. Can you tell us your story? I mean

462
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Speaker 1: a transfer. You go to Michigan, you're from You're from FCS,

463
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Speaker 1: You go to Michigan, you're there for a year, you're

464
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Speaker 1: now in the NFL. Can you tell us that story

465
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Speaker 1: from Southfield, Michigan all the way now to to Cleveland, Ohio,

466
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Speaker 1: and and and on an NFL roster. Oh man, all right,

467
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Speaker 1: it's it's a bit of a long one, but just

468
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: starting to uh, well start from football. My first like

469
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Speaker 1: seven years of football, I actually played offensive defensive line linebackers,

470
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Speaker 1: so I never really played receivers UM. Before I got

471
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Speaker 1: to high school. My first snap ever seen was in

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Speaker 1: high school. So I was at Farmington, UH, Farmington High

473
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Speaker 1: for three years. UM had a little bit of success.

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Speaker 1: They're very little, very much new. I was really working

475
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Speaker 1: just really just working hard, missing with good guys on

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Speaker 1: the way, like David Reese UM who played who played

477
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Speaker 1: at Florida. So just some guys like like mentored me

478
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Speaker 1: and kind of like helped me push forward a little bit. UM.

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Speaker 1: Shortly after that, UM, I transferred the water for my

480
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Speaker 1: high school. I kind of alright senior year and still

481
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Speaker 1: ended number one offer, one divisional offer for more Egaan State,

482
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Speaker 1: and that's where I went out of high school. So

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Speaker 1: I went to Morgags State High School. I was there

484
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Speaker 1: for two years. UM my very once again, very little success. UM.

485
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Speaker 1: They're like a hundred like two hundred three hundred yards

486
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Speaker 1: and total my first two years there, UM, I had

487
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Speaker 1: three coaches while I was there. After my second coach left,

488
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: I left and I went to UM Jackson State. I

489
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Speaker 1: went down there with my ribalty of coach coach Ryan Dickerson. Uh,

490
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Speaker 1: going down there was it was was pretty pretty different experience. Um,

491
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Speaker 1: I did have to sit out my first year, so

492
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 1: I didn't play. So I was just working hard, training, lifting,

493
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Speaker 1: lifting crazy like for for three or four times a

494
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Speaker 1: week during the season because I had nothing else to

495
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: do down there. And my coach actually gets fired, so

496
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Speaker 1: I never get to play for the Persson I actually

497
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Speaker 1: followed down to Jackson State. I never got to play

498
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Speaker 1: a town for him. And uh, shortly after beyond Sanders

499
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Speaker 1: gets hired and and I'm excited. I'm like, alright, cool,

500
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: this is this is definitely gonna be opportunity because he

501
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: don't bring a lot of attention. So how many times

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Speaker 1: can I ask you, quick Day, how many times when

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Dion Sanders in an interview does it just

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Speaker 1: turn into coach primes. It's been quite a few. I

505
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Speaker 1: just I really, I don't try to shy away from it,

506
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: but he's like, I just try to like go head

507
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Speaker 1: fly past it. So it happens quite often though, Keep going, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm into the story. Yeah, tell tell us about Michigan. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: so I was. I was. I was about literally about

510
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Speaker 1: to get to it. So I played this season at

511
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Speaker 1: Jackson State, I had I have five seventy and like

512
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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns and six games. Had a really good season there.

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Speaker 1: Spring season. It was a spring right after COVID because

514
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Speaker 1: everybody's season got pushed back. So after that I had

515
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Speaker 1: to transf reporter. I get recruited by Ohio State to

516
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Speaker 1: state all the bigger schools. Then when they offered me,

517
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Speaker 1: everybody saw offer me, so like in a two week span,

518
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Speaker 1: everybody in the country was trying to all me, had

519
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Speaker 1: me come visit. I ended up choosing Michigan. I thought

520
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Speaker 1: I had went. I knew one of the coaches there,

521
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: coach around Belling Me. I knew him already, and it

522
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: just seemed like a good thing. I was close, close

523
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Speaker 1: back to home. Uh there, I went through some ups

524
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Speaker 1: and downs there. Um, the difference between how smaller schools

525
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: are like practice and everything is a little different. For

526
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: it was a little different for me personally knowing that,

527
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Speaker 1: like just coming from smaller schools like Morgan State and

528
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Speaker 1: going to Michigan, practice was different. So it was ups

529
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Speaker 1: and downs or just like getting through practice even sometimes

530
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Speaker 1: then how every time everybody wanted, how the coaches wanted things,

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Speaker 1: it was just a little different for me so as

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Speaker 1: to ups and down there I played, I didn't play

533
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Speaker 1: as much as I would would have liked to for sure.

534
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Speaker 1: Then UM also we weren't running heavy team, so I

535
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Speaker 1: didn't get the stuns that I wanted anything there From

536
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Speaker 1: there on, no, I just kind of just keupt my

537
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Speaker 1: head down, kept working. Once once the draft process was

538
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Speaker 1: over and the draft ended up two days later or

539
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Speaker 1: three days later, I got signed. UM. I went to

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Speaker 1: Ricky minicoant with the Giants for three days. They didn't

541
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Speaker 1: keep me. They didn't pretty really keep anybody and UM

542
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: shortly after that probably like I was at home for

543
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Speaker 1: about a good two months. Then UM Cleveland called before

544
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: a workout and I just kind of didn't look back.

545
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: It was about a weekend in the camp once I

546
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: came in. UM. They I did real well during the

547
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Speaker 1: preseason and uh, I actually got an injury which I

548
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: actually thought I was gonna get cut. I had a

549
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: concussion during the Eagles, Like after we played the Eagles.

550
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: At the end of the Eagles game, I got a concussion.

551
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get cut, like just I

552
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: was talking to my mom like I was like sad

553
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: and everything, and ended up working out for the best

554
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and I and I end up getting a spot on

555
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: the practice quads from from there, just take trying, just

556
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Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of my opportunities. And and Daylyn.

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Speaker 1: One thing going back to your Corge career, and I

558
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: called college games, so I'll see it FCS versus an

559
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: FBS school games take place, and I'm always other thought

560
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Speaker 1: that really the difference between the two. He throw an

561
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: HBCU in there, is that the offensive and defensive linement

562
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: are bigger on Division one level. You agree with that, Tess,

563
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Speaker 1: because I think you've got guys that can cover and

564
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: you got guys that can catch on the level that

565
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: you play. For me, yes, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: The difference between the difference between any teams or anything

567
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: is the attention to detail. Though that would be the

568
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: biggest thing coming from a smaller school. Then' tention the detail.

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Speaker 1: There's the name. Like when I was at me, there

570
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: was a name for every little technique. Tensing the details

571
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Speaker 1: is the difference between winning and losing. So that's the

572
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Speaker 1: difference between being good and a great team, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Another big difference, Dylan. We can't thank

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Speaker 1: you enough for the time. I know you're pressed, I

575
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: know we're pressed. We wish you every bit of success.

576
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: Every time you're on the field, you're making a play.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to seeing what you're doing in

578
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Speaker 1: the future. Happy holidays to you, I mean I'll thank

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Speaker 1: you as well. You have a great night. YouTube Dylan

580
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: Baldwin joining us on the hotline. Fantastic stuff to hear

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Speaker 1: from him. What a wonderful young man and what a

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Speaker 1: All right, Gerarde, we have to go rapid fire away

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Speaker 1: we go. First off, what was more incredible the Colts

603
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: blowing a thirty three point lead against the Vikings or

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00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots blowing the end of the game against the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Recently bias Patriots that play right there will go down

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Speaker 1: in the history as one of the most acid nine

607
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Speaker 1: make no sease doing too much at one time plays

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. Still, I mean a guy took credit.

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00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean he took the blame. But gods, how do

610
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: you make that decision? I still don't get it. Very poorly.

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00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: You make it very poorly. You make a very poor,

612
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: hurried rush decision. I you know, I gotta blame Jacoby Myers,

613
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: he's the one who did it. What Stevenson doing just

614
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Speaker 1: pitching it off because at that point it, I swear

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Speaker 1: to you, Now I've never been on the field and

616
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: that like in an NFL capacity obviously, but what I'm

617
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Speaker 1: thinking is the second Roumadre Stevenson tosses it to Jakobe Myers,

618
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: it turns everything off. It turns hey ball game like exactly,

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Speaker 1: like to that point, like if you're down by one,

620
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: have at it. But I think when he pitched it back,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody just lost their heads for all. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I never thought from that angle, kid,

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Speaker 1: thank you the lightbulb with off of my head. So

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00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: they're some middle shift took place, said okay if he's

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: pitching this, because you know how j R. Smith said

626
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: that he for the life of him that the score

627
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: was one thing when it was yes, yes, So that's safe.

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00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: Phenomenon must have taken place where they're like, okay, we

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00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: must be trailing it because he just pitched the ball

630
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Speaker 1: to me because it was not it made no sense

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Speaker 1: for him to pitch the ball to him. You're you're

632
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: just going because you've done this. I'm sure Jakobe Myers

633
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: has been in that situation before. You just in scramble mode, right,

634
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: and you don't think. And then if you're down by

635
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: one and you tossed it back and Chandler Jones is there. Whatever,

636
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: But it's a tie game. And remember it might have

637
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: felt like it was already like you were down because

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Speaker 1: of the terrible call that happened beforehand to tie the

639
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: game up in the first place. So I can't it

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Speaker 1: was just it was spell Browning. I do know some

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Speaker 1: Raiders fans and I said, Okay, well, you guys have

642
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Speaker 1: had terrible luck all year. At least you had some luck.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. And that is a very quick

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Speaker 1: segment of Around the League. Will do it a little

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Speaker 1: bit longer coming up next week, but joining us next

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Speaker 1: the great One Jim Donovan will join us on the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a look back at the Ravens game and

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Speaker 1: the win over Baltimore and look ahead to a cold,

649
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Speaker 1: hopeful victory against the New Orleans Saints on Saturday. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the Cleveland Browns preview show on the University

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Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. This is the Cleveland Browns

652
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Speaker 1: Preview Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Kim Kerman and Gerard Jerry kick

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Speaker 1: offs at one pm on Saturday, but will be on

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Speaker 1: the air with you coming up at nine am on

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Speaker 1: Saturday Browns Game Day. Myself and Gerade Cherry the man

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Speaker 1: on the call for the one pm kickoff. Jim Donovan,

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Speaker 1: who joins us right now on the hotline for the

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Speaker 1: Browns and the Saints coming up this week. Jim, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us, Hi, guys, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful to talk to you. Jim. First off, we've got

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Speaker 1: to go over that win over the Baltimore Ravens. Nicely

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Speaker 1: done on the ground with Nick Chubb. Nicely done, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting the job done with Deshaun Watson defensively getting the

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Speaker 1: job done against Tyler Huntley. What did you see down

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Speaker 1: there on the field. Yeah, I have to tell you, Ken,

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Speaker 1: I I didn't know what to expect going into the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wonder, you know, in the after effects

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Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Laws, how are the Browns gonna play?

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Speaker 1: And I knew Baltimore coming into the game really needed

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Speaker 1: the game because they are in that tight race in

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Speaker 1: the a f C North with the Bengals um. But

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Speaker 1: the Brons came out and I thought defensively though they

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Speaker 1: gave up rushing yardage, but everybody is giving up rushing

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Speaker 1: yardage because the Ravens are really good running the football.

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Speaker 1: But when it came time to make a play, whether

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Speaker 1: it's on third down or come up with a big play.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Awards interception and John Johnson the third bumble recovery,

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Speaker 1: they were right there and did it. And I think

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Speaker 1: offensively they just did enough. You know, they didn't turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over. I thought Deshaun Watson down the stretch

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Speaker 1: kind of nurse the lead the right way, handled the

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Speaker 1: offense very well. And the really good signed late in

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Speaker 1: that ball game was to see the Browns running game

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Speaker 1: really click again because it's been missing for various reasons

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But I mean, they ran

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Speaker 1: out the clock and that's a really good feeling. And

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Speaker 1: Jim One could argue since Deshaun Watson's return, the defense

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Speaker 1: the special teams has been playing better. Can you attribute

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Speaker 1: that to Deshaun Watson's presence or just simply these guys

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Speaker 1: are starting to figure some things out. How do you

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Speaker 1: see it? Well, yeah, I don't know. That's good. It's

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Speaker 1: taken a long time for them to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad if they have. Uh, they're finally there. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody has been a little bit more on point.

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Speaker 1: With Deshaun Watson coming in, I think there was a

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Speaker 1: level of excitement and I think everybody wanted his appearance

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Speaker 1: at the as the brown starting quarterback to go well.

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Speaker 1: So suddenly, I mean the defense is playing well. I

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00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: mean they did really well John in Houston, and I

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: think for the most part, played very well in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: The special teams came up with a big day in Houston.

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Speaker 1: They came up with a block field goal in the

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Speaker 1: game against the Ravens, and uh, you know, did a

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Speaker 1: really good job I think in that game too. So

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Speaker 1: I think team wide, I think everybody is really on

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Speaker 1: point to play a little bit better. Plus I think

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Speaker 1: they realized that, you know, Sundays and now Saturdays, you

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Speaker 1: know they're getting few Uh, you know, we're getting scarce

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season here, and everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to improve this record. And Jen, there's no secret the

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Speaker 1: weather is supposed to be horrific on Saturday. In mind

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Speaker 1: is the Cilicum now to one Canna Saint suggests to

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Speaker 1: the weather and at fifty degrees right now in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: so against some semblance of what they would consider cold weather.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, is this going to simply

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Speaker 1: be an old fashioned who can run the football better

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Speaker 1: and not make mistakes type of a game in your mind?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think so, Gerade, I really do. I

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Speaker 1: think it's ball security run the football. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, when they come out for their pregame warm up,

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Speaker 1: they'll get a pretty good idea of what they're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to do in the passing game and

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna be able to do in the kicking game,

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Speaker 1: which you know, you wonder, is that just gonna be

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Speaker 1: wiped out completely because with the you know, the wind

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Speaker 1: guts that they're talking about and forecasting for Saturday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine being able to really kick the

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Speaker 1: ball that far. And you know, even if you have

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Speaker 1: it with the wind, I mean and with the temperatures

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Speaker 1: being with their forecasting, that ball must it has to

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Speaker 1: feel like a rock at that point in time. So

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Speaker 1: I really think it's back to the basics. I really

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Speaker 1: do run the football, uh, and ball security don't turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over and if you can do that, you're

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Speaker 1: probably have a fighting chance to do this. As for

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Speaker 1: the Saint I don't know. I mean the amazing thing

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Speaker 1: coming into the game, which is the uneven this and

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Speaker 1: maybe the beauty of the NFL that a team five

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Speaker 1: and nine at this stage of the season, which the

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Speaker 1: Saints are, and they're only a game out of first

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Speaker 1: place in their division. I was gonna ask you, do

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Speaker 1: you think that's an over talked about or overrated thing

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Speaker 1: about how bad like a division is year to year

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Speaker 1: because there's people going, Wow, the NFC South is the

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: worst division we've seen. I go, yeah, until next year,

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Speaker 1: and we need something to talk about at this time

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Speaker 1: of year. Jim, Yeah, I think so, Ken. I I think,

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Speaker 1: like everything else, that becomes cyclical and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't have a dominant team right now. And I

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00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: think everybody thought the Tampa Bay would be that kind

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00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: of team that they'd be able to really run away

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Speaker 1: with that division and they're not doing it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they might limp to the finish line. But I

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Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago out in the West

756
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Speaker 1: on the NFC, and I think it was when Pat

757
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Speaker 1: Shermer just before he became the head coach of the Browns,

758
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Speaker 1: and he was the offensive coordinator with the St. Louis Rams,

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Speaker 1: and they went into a final Sunday night game of

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Speaker 1: the regular season playing the Seattle Seahawks. Winner won the title,

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Speaker 1: and I think no matter who won, they still ended

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Speaker 1: with a losing record, but they hosted a first round

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Speaker 1: playoff game because they were a division winner, and a

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Speaker 1: really good Saints team went up to Seattle with Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees and Marshall Lynch. Marshawn Lynch ran all over them

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Speaker 1: and upset the Saints in that game. So you just

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00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen. But I think the division thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just cyclical right now, and they're all

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Speaker 1: a little bit down in that division. Will you close

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Speaker 1: the windows on Saturday? Yeah, I don't think so, I

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Speaker 1: really don't. I yeah, I don't think that. Why not? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Ken, I would Um. I

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Speaker 1: would hate to have the game sound like I'm doing

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Speaker 1: it from my living room. Uh and and and I

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00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: feel very cut off if there is a window in

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Speaker 1: the booth and it's down and there is a window

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Speaker 1: there the booth at Arrowheads Stadium since they've redesigned the

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00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: press box there, it is all windowed in. And though

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Speaker 1: you hang a crowd mic out and maybe two crowd

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00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: mics out and you pick up the parabolics from the

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Speaker 1: network feed, you just don't feel like you're in the

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Speaker 1: game when you're cut off from the outside. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm voting um that the window stays open for the

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Speaker 1: game on Saturday. No, there ain't no vote. You're the

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Speaker 1: boss because Jason Gibbs, producer, goes, Hey, ask Jim tonight

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Speaker 1: and see see maybe if you'll do it or not,

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Speaker 1: see if we'll keep the windows closed. So all right,

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be out of the elements. Jim, We thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the time. We're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: talking to you on Saturday morning. All the best, Thanks Ken'd.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing your outside. It should be

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Speaker 1: a beautiful one. Yeah, playing and gentleman, a great Jim Donovan.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Gerand is gonna be giving Wayne Fotts to

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Speaker 1: run for his money down there on the sidelines. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, we'll put the finishing touches on this. We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up on Thursday and tell you

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Speaker 1: what's coming up on Sunday or excuse me Saturday morning

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Speaker 1: as we get you ready for the Browns and Saints

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Speaker 1: from First Energy Stadium. You're listening to the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Preview Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: When loser draw, if you don't play the standard, there's

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00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: corrections to be made, and there's things to be done

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Speaker 1: that are gonna benefit the team, and we're all trying

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Speaker 1: to work to those goals. This is the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Preview Show. You're listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carmen and Geron Cherry.

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Speaker 1: Saturdays Today nine am Browns Game Day Gerard Cherry and

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Speaker 1: myself Love and Am Brown's Kickoff Show with myself, Andy

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Speaker 1: Basket and Tims Polla. Then one pm Kickoff with Jim

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Gerad from First Energy Stadium. Fans, make sure

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Speaker 1: you tune in Thursday night seven pm the Kevin Stavanski Show,

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Speaker 1: all along the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Gonna

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Speaker 1: be coaching Brown's punner Corey BJRKZ, who will be joining

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Speaker 1: Nathan's Gura and Gerard as the guys countdown to Saturday's

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Speaker 1: matchup against the Saints. Gerard, what are we looking forward

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00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: to in this game on Saturday? That's really simple. The

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Speaker 1: impact of the weather. That's what we're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: see how much of a factor is going to be

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Speaker 1: because it almost supersedes the game itself, all your calls,

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00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: all your adjustments, your mental makeup. Isn't gonna be more

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Speaker 1: concerned about the weather than your opponent. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: kN how rare that is. It is going to be

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Speaker 1: something where the it's it's such a dramatic distraction. And

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a distraction. I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's an opponent. I think I think

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Speaker 1: the weather itself and is a is an opponent in this,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Gerad? I mean this is two first is

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Speaker 1: the stuff of legends. Yeah, I mean you're playing against

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Speaker 1: the weather, and I think I mean, honestly, you're playing

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Speaker 1: against your own your own will in a game like this,

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this is the type of game is

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Speaker 1: gonna make you quit um freezing outside, dreadfully dreadfully cold

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Speaker 1: winds gonna be whipping at about sixty I mean this

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Speaker 1: is just I mean there are guys here who are

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Speaker 1: from the SEC who have never experienced cold like this,

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Speaker 1: and draw they may never experience cold like this ever again,

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Speaker 1: depending on how their careers may work out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be something exactly. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what you're right about that? I mean, this is this,

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Speaker 1: This is something that that that is dramatic. I mean

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Speaker 1: you've been here for a while, you've experienced it. I

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Speaker 1: I I'm born here. I I've experienced it my entire life.

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Speaker 1: Usually usually you get about one one week where it's

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Speaker 1: blow zero in February. But man, not not alright on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. This is gonna be Uh, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be an interesting situation coming up here. I say, run

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Speaker 1: the football. Uh, if it can't be Nick Chub, we

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Speaker 1: hope it can be Nick Chubb. But if it can't

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Speaker 1: be Nick Chubb, I think it's I think it would

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Speaker 1: be safe to say Cream Hunt is gonna get a

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Speaker 1: with stuff Mitchell, We'll see what he can do in

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Speaker 1: be out in the elements for very long, because that

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Speaker 1: clock is gonna be moving with the clean football game

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Speaker 1: no penalties that run the ball, no penalties, no penalties

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, don't even take commercial breaks. Anything above,

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Speaker 1: talking everybody coming up at nine am Brown's Game Day

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Speaker 1: with Gerod, Cherry and I. That eleven am it will

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Speaker 1: be the Browns Kickoff Show, one pm Kickoff with Jim,

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Gerd. Make sure you're listening Thursday night, seven

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Speaker 1: pm The Kevin's Tefanski Show coach and putter Corey but

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Speaker 1: Horkz with Nathan and Gerard. A big thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jason Gibbs, always doing fantastic technical producer Meredith Kane,

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Speaker 1: and associate producer Connor Lawrence for my good buddy, Gerad Cherry.

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