1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm so angry because my brother stole my girlfriend and 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: is trying to marry her. I want to destroy their 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: wedding by any means necessary. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? Damn? Bro? 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Just cannot win, you know what I mean. But I 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you should go that far. I don't know, 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: take the higher road. 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh it's hard to say, but let's find out what happens. 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I thirty nine male, have been a caretaker for my 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: brother Justin thirty three male since he was. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Ten years old. 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Wait hold on, I was only sixteen years old when 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: our parents passed away. 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 15 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: I had to take care of the household because my 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: brother was still very little. I did everything for him. 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: He was the apple of my eye. I guess I 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: spoiled him a lot. I never dated that much because 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: I was the breadwinner for my brother. Dude, Oh, please 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: don't tell me this is going where I think it's 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: gonna go. That is, until I met Melissa thirty five female. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: It was almost ten years ago. We dated for two 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: years and it was great. My brother loved her. Maybe 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: you loved her a little too much, bro, I don't know. 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good thing. 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Yet or not. 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: One day, I was eavesdropping a conversation she was having 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: with her friend. The gist of the conversation was something like, 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: her friend was asking about me. Melissa said that she 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: loves me a lot. She loves that I take care 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: of her in every way. Oh oh no, guys, I'm 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: seeing the cracks start to unfold. Get ready for this, 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: but I am pretty average when it comes to doing 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: the nasty. Her friend asked her if she was going 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: to talk to me about it, or how is she happy. 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: She told her that her fixture. 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Is my brother. Ah no, why why do this? 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna go for someone that isn't like 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: satisfying you as some way? 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: You know? 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey, okay, all good? Can you pick anyone but the brother? 42 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Please please look at the eight billion other people. She 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: went on to explain how she and Justin have been 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: having an. 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Affair for eight months. Oh oh god. 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: She thinks it's justified because she thinks Justin is better 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: in bed than I am. You can imagine how painful 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: it was for me. I went inside the house pretending 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I didn't hear a thing. Oh ope, opie. I confronted 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Justin about it. I know how to get him to talk. 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: I press this matter after he was denying it, he 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: eventually broke down and said it was the truth. He 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: didn't say anything because he didn't want to hurt me. 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: He and Melissa are in love and want to get married, 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: but Melissa won't leave me. Bro Okay, So Essa is 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: really messing up the game over here. Obviously, Opie's brothers 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: should never have, you know, gone after her or let 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that happen. We don't know yet who initiated what If 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: it was Melissa, if it was the brother. Maybe it 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: was kind of simultaneously. But how could you do that 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: to your own brother? How could you be dating someone 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: and then be unsatisfied and then go to their brother 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: who you know it will hurt them so much, so much, 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's possible with the eight billion 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: people statistically, mathematically, algebraic relically speaking, that you know the 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: love of your life could actually be just your partners simpling. 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: But God, damn, guys, please please take it easy on 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: poor Opie. I was furious. I wanted to beat the 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: crap out of him, but I just told him he 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: is dead to me and left. I also kicked out Melissa, 71 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: and she stayed with my brother in his roommates. My 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: brother was banging on my door non stop. I had 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: to move in with a friend and told everyone to 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: not disclose my location to my brothers. His calls and 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: emails were all the same, that he was sorry and 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: he never wanted to hurt me, and he will break 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: up with her. 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting. 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: I stopped the bank account something like a trust fund 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: that I made for him that he can access when 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: he was twenty five. 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: He is not my brother anymore. 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay, So I mean this is a this 84 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: is a big, big reaction. I'm actually very curious at 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: this point, and maybe I'll check in later with y'all. 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: As of right. 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: Now, would you completely cut off the brother at this point? 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: It is a like it is it is very very 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: arguably a unforgivable thing that the brother has done to him. 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: But do can we completely cut them out at this point? 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: And but you know, I guess in fairness to op 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: op literally like did so much sacrifice at eight, at sixteen, 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: became the parent. Maybe he deserves it. You let me 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: know what you think. I went into a deep depression. 95 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: I didn't eat or sleep properly. I would have nightmares 96 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: of my brother and my ex laughing at me that 97 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: I suck in bed. Oh my god, that if I 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: was good enough, she would have never left me. It 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: got so bad that once I stood in front of 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: a train track because it was too unbearable for me. 101 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Luckily my friends saved me. I did 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: not have much friends, but they were my rock. I 103 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: stayed with them for a year. I went to therapy, 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: I did group sessions. I had a lot of anxiety 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: regarding intimacy, so I didn't date for a long time. 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: My friend encouraged me to try. I did try once, 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: but with a one night stand, but it was bad 108 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: for both of us. I still go to therapy to 109 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: this day. Very good. I'm glad to hear that. But 110 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: other aspects of my life have improved. I focused more 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: on building new relationships with new people. I went to 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: travel and explore more hobbies. I was living for myself. 113 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like op is taking this awful, awful thing 114 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and turning it into maybe not a positive, but just 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: using it to do all those things. Like you know, 116 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: we all say, oh, I'm going to travel somewhere someday, 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to therapy. I'm gonna pick up 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: these hobbies. I want to learn piano. I want to 119 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: do all these things for myself. But we get so 120 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: pulled down and distracted by life, and OP is at 121 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: least taking this opportunity to be like, Yo, why don't 122 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I do this for me? Why don't I take this 123 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: time while I'm healing and to help me heal, to 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: actually invest in myself and do stuff that will make 125 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: me happy and enrich my life, which I completely applaut 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Op for doing. I am in a relationship with someone 127 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: for three years now. 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we are engaged and we're having a kid together. Okay, 129 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: let's go. 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Wendy thirty two female is a really nice person. She 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: knows all about my insecurities and problems that I faced 132 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: because of my brother. She was mature and patient with me. 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I was able to trust someone enough to be in 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: a relationship. Two days ago, I got an invitation in 135 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: my mail about the wedding hold on and as the 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: title says, it was from my brother. 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: The cheating brother with his stolen girlfriend. Oh god, he 138 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: has kept tabs on me from Afar and invited me 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: to his wedding with none other than Melissa old X 140 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: ye old X. 141 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Come back again to smite Opie and destroy his poor life. 142 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, looking at their names, it doesn't hurt 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: that much now, I feel numb. If it was eight 144 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: years ago, oh, I would have had a meltdown. I 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: still feel this pain that I cannot be happy for 146 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: my brother's big day. My fiance suggests that we shouldn't 147 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: go and just delete the invite. All right, that's a 148 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: big question. Oh man, what would I do in this 149 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: freaking situation. I think that Op is not obligated at 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: all to go to the wedding, like your brother did 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: this to you again. I'm kind of on the fence 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: on whether or not on whether or not Op should 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: have completely cut him out of his life, like in 154 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: that instant, like immediately, without kind of taking a beat 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: to kind of think and assess it over. But I 156 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: definitely don't think that Op does that Ope needs to 157 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: or has to go to this. I don't know that 158 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: the brother deserves that. I don't know that Melissa freaking 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: deserves that. I'm sure the brother wants to reconcile. It 160 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: seems like he wanted to reconcile and also break up 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: with her. Remember that, Remember when he was like, hey, 162 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll break up a third worry bro, It's all good, bro. 163 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: Where was that energy? Why wasn't it kept? Now we 164 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: have a comment I'm gonna read. And then right after 165 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: that we got our big old juicy update from scrumptious 166 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Nutsack Nice. I wouldn't have been as strong as you, man. 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: I am in shock and inner rage of the heartless 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: people who hurt you. I could never imagine how horrible 169 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: this must have made you feel, Opie. There is nothing 170 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: more I want than to watch them suffer. I have 171 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: no love or blessing left for him. When my parents died, 172 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: they told me to look after him, and then when 173 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: we were adults, we will look after each other. He 174 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: threw it all away. It doesn't hurt that Melissa cheated. 175 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: It hurts more that my own brother has cheated me. 176 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: Damn boy. Yeah that's tough, dude. 177 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean he literally as a teenager, you know, that's 178 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, kind of your your prime years of youth 179 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: and exploring. He probably sacrificed a whole lot to him. 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: He also had set up a rust fund for him, 181 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: which is very impressive considering he started his parental journey 182 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: at sixteen, like, was he able to go to school? 183 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Was he able to get a good job like work 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: on the side like? I don't know, but I guess 185 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: op ended up doing pretty well for himself, well enough 186 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to create a trust fund. 187 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: So but, guys, we have a big, fat update. 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Hello, guys, I was thinking about 189 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: making an update soon. I know people and Reddit really 190 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: like updates, and I do, but I delayed because I 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: have a baby girl. Now. Hey, congrats Ophie man my 192 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: manness one freaking good thing in his life. 193 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: Am I right? Y'all? To ours? Come on? 194 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: When I posted this, my fiance now wife a WW 195 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: was already eight point five months pregnant. We had an 196 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: early delivery. My baby girl, Emily is so cute. She 197 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: has a little bundle of joy for the both of us. 198 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: She's so tiny and cute. She has eyes just like mine. 199 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: I cannot believe we made something so precious. I spent 200 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: as much time holding her as I could. My wife 201 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: gets pissed because she thinks I'm going to coddle her 202 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: to death. Also, my fiance and I got married pretty quickly. 203 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: It was a court marriage. Neither of us wanted a 204 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: big wedding. Anyways, we are all fine. Man, I'm so happy. 205 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: To hear that. 206 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, Op deserves a freaking w bro. He's just 207 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: been taking elves for years and years, and now the 208 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: biggest l is coming back to haunt him of his 209 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: brother's wedding. God, but it seems like he's kind of 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: grown past it, Like he feels numb to it, right, 211 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's not that he's he 212 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: said he wanted to feel happy for his big brother. 213 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if there is any sort of spark, any 214 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: sort of inkling inside him that's like, Yo, this is 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: my brother at the end of the day, and I 216 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: want to try to reconnect with him. You know, I 217 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: raised him. You know, both of both of them lost 218 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: their parents. I guess Opie's brother at an even younger age, 219 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: which is probably more even more traumatic than it was 220 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: for Op, who had his own baggage to deal with 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: having his parents passed away at sixteen and raising his 222 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: little brother. 223 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: But man, I don't know. 224 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a reunion, a reconnection a foot A foot 225 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: only one way to find out, y'all. Now, some of 226 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: you asked me how my brother knew my address. Well, 227 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: he didn't. He only knew my email, my work email. 228 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: He probably knows what company I go to, so from 229 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: there he tracked down my email and sent an invitation. 230 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: A few days ago, I got another email from my brother. 231 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: I have forgot to block him. I usually don't check 232 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: my work email because most of them are forwarded in slack. 233 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: My brother made a huge ass email. He basically told 234 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: me he knows I will not come to his wedding, 235 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: but still wanted me there for his big day. He 236 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: apologized for what he has done and that he would 237 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: never forgive himself for doing wrong. But he knew he 238 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have slept with Melissa, but he did it anyways. 239 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: Growing up, he had been jealous of me. He was 240 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: jealous that I am the more capable brother who is 241 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: just babysitting him. Damn little back hit, A compliment to yourself, 242 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: my guy. When Melissa approached him, he felt like he 243 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: had more importance. 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: Ah, I mean, I see the brother trying trying to 245 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: go through it, give an explanation that I guess hasn't 246 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: happened yet. 247 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: But I see that he's trying. But I don't know. 248 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the if that's the move. 249 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: He felt like he had more importance. I mean, maybe 250 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: he's just being honest. He knew he was wrong. He 251 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: wanted to stop. The day I said he was dead 252 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: to me, he had a panic attack. He tried his 253 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: best to contact me, but my friends refused to give 254 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: up my life location. He was begging them. He and 255 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Melissa split up for a while. He was desperate to 256 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: find me. He hit rock bottom when he heard from 257 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: a friend of his that I tried to unlive myself. 258 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Even his friends judged him harshly after what he has done. 259 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: His friends saw me as a big brother too, so 260 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: they all refused to be at his. 261 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Wedding with Melissa. Wow. 262 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: Melissa and he reconciled two years ago. By that time, 263 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Melissa was a single mom. She feels guilty about what 264 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: she has done because the father of her child has 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: cheated on her and left her. All right, Yo, I mean, listen, 266 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: there's this little mistress out there. 267 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: You know. 268 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Some call her k you know what I mean. Some 269 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: call her by her truthful name, which is Karma. Come on, now, 270 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: don't try to steal your partner's sibling and cheat on 271 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: them and drive away to the family and do all that. 272 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Don't do it? Why would we do that? Why it's 273 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: not the move. That is not the move. 274 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: She also wanted to meet me and say sorry. From there, 275 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: they rekindled their romance. Lastly, he said he cannot go 276 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: through with the wedding. Wait, hold on, what's going on here? 277 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: Let's see. I'm confused. 278 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: He called it off and fought with Melissa and they 279 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: broke up again. 280 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: What what is happening? Oh my god? Bro. 281 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Honestly, at this point, I'm just like, can you just 282 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: make up your mind? Like, if you're gonna be with 283 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: the person that destroyed the relationship with your brother, can't 284 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you just at least commit to that, Like I just 285 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: want you to send it. 286 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: Can we just keep the same energy. I don't know. 287 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: He wants me to be with him in his most 288 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: important day. He knows I have disowned him, but he 289 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: is willing to do anything to reconcile, even if it 290 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: takes him his whole life. 291 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: That's it. 292 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: There was a bunch of whining stuff that I ignored. 293 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I deleted the email. My therapist said, forgiveness isn't something 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: that is forced it comes from a subconscious level when 295 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: we know we can forgive that person, and it should 296 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: be an option only when someone shows that they are 297 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: sorry by their actions and not by their words. Honestly, 298 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to goodness. I know I'm being petty 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: and cruel, but I am happy the way my life 300 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: is adding him will cause stress. My wife told me 301 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to forget it. My brother is not guilty at all. 302 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: As soon as I forgive him, he would go back 303 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: to Melissa. Interesting, Okay, I don't know. I gotta see, 304 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: I gotta see. I don't know if you do that. 305 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. He needs to figure out his life 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: on his own. I've babied him enough. Now it's his 307 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: turn to be an adult. 308 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Edit. 309 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: People are asking me about my brother's life, so I 310 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: wanted to clear it out. I do not have any 311 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: idea what he's doing with his life. I moved my 312 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: place away way further from him. I transferred my job too. 313 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: He must have known my place of work from where 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: he got my email. For ten years of my life, 315 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: I pretended he doesn't exist. Along with therapy, I treated 316 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: him like he was someone dead. I don't know what 317 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: went down with him and Melissa, But from his email, 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: I can paint a picture that they broke up after 319 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: dating for a few years. His friends were unhappy with 320 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: him dating this woman, and they decided to drop the 321 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: wedding because of Melissa. My brother told me he doesn't 322 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: want to get married unless I am there to support him. 323 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: That could be anyone, doesn't have to be Melissa. Why 324 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Melissa came back, I don't know. Maybe she thought I 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: would accept her like a doormat. 326 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: What like a doormat? 327 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: Bro? 328 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: This guy? This guy's kind of wild, he's kind of funny, honestly, what. 329 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: But she knows me better than that. I am stubborn 330 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to holding a grudge. Damn righty is 331 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: my boy is sticking with his grudges. I did know 332 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: I had an impact on his friends so much. They 333 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: were good people who would hang out with us. They 334 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: were younger, and they treated me like their own brother. 335 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: I did get apologies from two of his friends who 336 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: never had a positive male role model after I blocked 337 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: my brother. I don't have contact with them now. There's 338 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: two final comments closing us out here. Well, op, your 339 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: brother is facing the consequences for his actions harshly, But 340 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: every choice we make has a price, and he should 341 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: have known that when he was meeting your ex behind 342 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: your back. I don't blame you at all. Melissa got 343 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: what she deserved. Her ex cheating on her is karma 344 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: for having slept with your brother. 345 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: Oh what did I say? 346 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: You've done so much for him, and I think that 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: if he truly regrets what he did to you, he'll 348 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: get back on his own feet without asking. 349 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: For your help. Is he asking for his help? 350 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I wonder how he even had the audacity to invite 351 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: you to the wedding with his now ex, knowing how 352 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: much both of them hurt you. You were right for 353 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: not attending. Forgiveness can't be forced. Whenever you think you're 354 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: ready to forgive him, you will. If not, then not. 355 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't judge you for not forgiving him, OHP's reply. 356 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: If he truly regretted this, then he wouldn't have decided 357 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: to marry Melissa Loki. Why did he go through with that, 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: the woman who destroyed my life along with my brother? 359 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: What did he think? I will forget all the pain 360 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: and trauma that he caused me. Forgiveness doesn't set you free, 361 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: It creates a different trap over the years, I have 362 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: learned forgiveness as a tool made by cowards. 363 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Bro Okay, Ophie, you're digging it out. 364 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I got some thoughts in the breakdown after this story, 365 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: but you're going in pretty deep Obe. Over the years, 366 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: I have learned forgiveness as a tool made by cowards 367 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: who just want to get away with their wrongdoings without 368 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: facing any consequences. They think having forgiveness removes the toll 369 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: of guilt that they have. True forgiveness is never forced, 370 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: it is earned. He has still done nothing to earn that. Woo, 371 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Man, we got a this was this 372 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: was a crazy one. So this is gonna be this 373 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be a breakdown, y'all. We have Opie who 374 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: raised his brother after his parents passed away and you know, 375 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: set up a trust. 376 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: Forum for him. 377 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: It seems from the context we have gave him a 378 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: pretty good life parenting him starting at sixteen. 379 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Basically. Then the brother goes along and he. 380 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: Either the either the ex either Melissa or him decide 381 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: to get together. Who knows who started it, but they did. 382 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: They hooked up for a long time, had an affair. 383 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: Opie cut his brother out, and then they decided to 384 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: get married all those years later, and then the marriage 385 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: was off again. So I mean, so many questions. Number 386 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: one for Opie's brother, like why if you it seemed 387 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: like you really wanted Opie back in your life, right, 388 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: but why then go back to Melissa and you broke 389 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: up with her again? It seems over your brother, So 390 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: why did you ever go back to her the second time? 391 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: The first place? 392 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: Like the affair was already like really really really really 393 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: really bad. 394 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: It also wasn't just one time hooking up. 395 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: This was like for eight months, So I am just 396 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: completely confused. 397 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: Why would you go back? Why would you mary decide 398 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: to agree to get married. 399 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: To her and it kind of seems like she wasn't 400 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: like your I don't know, the one true love because 401 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: you'd called off the wedding again. Oh my god. But 402 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I will say it seems like OPI is kind of going. 403 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: I think op is harder on the brother than I 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: would be personally. I mean, I would definitely be mad 405 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: if my own freaking brother like stole my woman from me. 406 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: Maybe there's some insecurities there as well. I mean, this 407 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: whole thing sparked from Melissa not liking how Opie was 408 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: in the bedroom, so maybe there's some insecurity there on 409 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: op side. 410 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: But he laid down the hammer pretty dang hard. 411 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: I do have to say, so, I have a few 412 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: questions for you all down in the comments below. What 413 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: would you have done if you were OPI? How would 414 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you have handled the brother? Would you have instantly gone 415 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: no contact? Would you have figured out a different plan? 416 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: Would you have waited it out? Let me know what 417 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: you think down below on that. I'm very curious to know. 418 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: But I'm also curious to read all another story. 419 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. My husband is cheating in line. 420 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: I can feel it, but now I know the whole truth, 421 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's more disgusting than I imagined. 422 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: I went divorce. Am I the a hole? You know? 423 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: There's always these instances where there's the cheating, but it 424 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: gets worse. Guys, how does it always get worse? Only 425 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: one way to know, I guess so. I female, twenty nine, 426 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: have been with my husband thirty male, for seven years 427 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: and married for four. I've never had reason to suspect 428 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: he was unfaithful to me or even remotely dissatisfied with 429 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: our marriage. He likes to joke that we're still living 430 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: in the honeymoon phase nearly five years and two kids in. 431 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have questioned that or him, were it not 432 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: for a surprise I found in his car last month. 433 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: When buckling our daughter into her car seat, I noticed 434 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: something slotted between the cushions. I pulled it out and 435 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: saw that it was a tampon. This wouldn't have been 436 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: so unusual had I not had an IUD that had 437 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: stopped my period for the past year. Okay, so it's like, 438 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: there's a tampon here, but I've been using him for 439 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the past twelve months, and I'm pretty sure I would 440 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: know which. 441 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: Ones I was buying. 442 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you walking in for me in the comments, 443 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: but I mean, you gotta have like a brand, right, 444 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: you gotta have your own thing, right, let me know 445 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: in the comments. And I didn't even recognize the rapper style. 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: See. 447 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: I brought it to my husband's attention, and he didn't 448 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: seem to understand what it was, let alone why I 449 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: was holding it until I told him where I I'd 450 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: found it and why. I was almost certain it wasn't mine, 451 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: but I was. 452 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, babe. 453 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: You know its sometimes the tampons, they just randomly appear 454 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: right like like like in Pokemon, you just run around 455 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: and then tampon's are just popping out of the ground. 456 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: He shrugged and said it probably belonged to his coworker, Fiona. 457 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: It's not uncommon for my husband to carpool to lunch 458 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: with his coworkers, and we're both fairly close to Fiona 459 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: and her husband, so I figured it was entirely possible 460 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: the tampon had slipped out of her purse whenever he 461 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: had driven with them and offered a ride. No big deal, okay, 462 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean maybe yeah, I mean definitely sounds like a 463 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: plausible scenario. But is this is this where the cheating incurs? 464 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Is this what goes down? I put it out of 465 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: my mind until we had dinner with Fiona and her 466 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: husband a couple of weeks later. I sincerely wanted to 467 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: believe my husband. I just couldn't get over the way 468 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: it had been tucked into the seat and how my 469 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: husband seemed to not have any regard for it whatsoever. 470 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Maybe playing dumb, I don't know. I did something that 471 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I now feel kind of crazy for doing. I faked 472 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: an emergency and asked Fiona if she had any tampons 473 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: while we were out together. 474 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I see why. 475 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I had to like do this thing, 476 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: and it's and it's kind of weird, and you maybe 477 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: not feel comfortable about it. Maybe it's not the best 478 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: thing in the world to do, but I think it's 479 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: pretty innocuous. You know, there's there's a lot worse things 480 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that people have done on very half baked suspicions, even 481 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: more half baked suspicions of their partner cheating. I don't 482 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: think it's the worst thing in the world. Maybe not 483 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the best thing in the world either, but I digress. 484 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: She handed me one almost identical to the tampon I 485 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: had found in our back seat. Fiona, Look, I know 486 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: you're pulling up in my swamp trying to get with 487 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: my Shrek, but this Shrek is taken. Okay, we don't 488 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: need a the princesses in this swamp, all right. I 489 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: am in this swamp. This is my man, this is 490 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: my Shrek. Backup. I don't know, y'all, what do you 491 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: think it's getting it a little more sus if you 492 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: ask me. And I breathed a sigh of relief. Okay, 493 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: so ope's feeling good about that. Actually, so the tampon 494 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: there was probably the same tampon here, and in all 495 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: likelihood there was an innocent explanation as to why it 496 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: had been left in the backseat in the first place. Ah, okay, 497 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, it is her tampon, but because 498 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: they do carpool regularly, it could have just slipped out 499 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: of the purse. 500 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, I see that. I see that. 501 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: I thought i'd seen the last of the out of 502 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: place feminine hygiene products until guys, guys, until I found 503 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: another tampon this morning, this time in my sock drawer. 504 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: I fell physically ill at the thought of my husband 505 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: having an affair, and even more nauseated at the thought 506 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: that the woman he might have left these tampons out 507 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: for me to find. That's low key, pretty sinister, Like 508 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: you're literally just leaving the lightest, most innocuous breadcrumbs. It's 509 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: you're exactly on the line of like, is my husband cheating? 510 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: Is he not? Like it? 511 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: There could be a perfectly reasonable explanation. It's not like 512 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: a condom or something like that. But I don't know. 513 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: It's it's if that person is playing my games. My god, 514 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: you need to become a professional introgrator or something, because 515 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: this is crazy. If it was my husband's coworker, why 516 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: would she give herself away by offering me one the 517 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: other night? Yeah, I guess if it was, that kind 518 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: of goes against the theory of it was intentionally placed. 519 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: I guess in any other situation, I would want to 520 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: talk to my husband about this, but I feel too 521 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: sick and embarrassed to approach him with what I found. 522 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: What should I do? And there are some relevant comments. 523 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: I had a period thirty years and never struck my 524 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: tampon in a stock drawer. Trust your gut and get cameras. 525 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh my ope, neither have I. I've considered so many 526 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: explanations for the tampon that wouldn't implicate my husband, but 527 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: none of them makes sense. Really, I'm terrified to set 528 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: up a camera if it means confirming what I suspect 529 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I mean, I don't know the camera 530 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: before the conversation, I don't know. I don't know real quick. 531 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: In the comments, is that something you would want to 532 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: do at this point? Let me know, has Fiona been 533 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: over to your house and had time to plant the tampon? 534 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: I did not know tampons or trees, but she's been 535 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to our house many times and vice versa. To my knowledge, 536 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: she wasn't over anytime in the past week. So if 537 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: she planted that second tampon, I see planted like in 538 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: the sock drug. 539 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I get you. I thought she planted. 540 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, she had to have found a window of 541 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: time when I wasn't home. Anytime she and her husband visit, 542 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: we all stay downstairs and you have to go really 543 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: out out of your way to make it to our bedroom. 544 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I e. Around our dogs, over the safety gate, past 545 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: the other bedrooms. Not saying it's impossible, but definitely tricky 546 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: to do on a quick bathroom break. I would guess 547 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: how old are your kids? Could they have found a 548 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: tampon and put it in a random place? 549 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Wow? 550 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I did not think of that, but that makes a 551 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Two and almost four both have a 552 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: mischievous streak, so I wouldn't want to rule out the 553 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: possibility of one of them moving stuff around. But I 554 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine how they'd get their hands on one, possibly 555 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: two tampons that I never bought. I mean not kind 556 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: of spells that out right there, Okay, so let's take 557 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: a quick break. We got an update coming in. But 558 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: I think right now, I mean personally, I feel like 559 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: asking the husband would be the right move. And maybe 560 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the positioning is something like, Hey, I know this might 561 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: sound super crazy, uh and you know you might think 562 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: this is a lot, but I have found these two 563 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: tampons I talked to you about the first one. 564 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: I just can't get it off my mind. 565 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Yes, it might just be a rational of me, but 566 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're coming from. And I kind 567 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: of want to sit down and talk about it and 568 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of try to figure it out, to try and 569 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: not let my brain kind of go off in this 570 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: crazy paranoid direction. You know, I feel like that's a 571 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: pretty fair way to put it. And you could even 572 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: be like, I'm not even necessarily trying to like accuse 573 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: you or anything. I'm just kind of like getting lost 574 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: in the sauce of paranoia or something like that, you know, a. 575 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: Delicious paranoid of Bavioli. 576 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Yikes, But you get what I'm saying, Like, I don't 577 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: think that that would be, you know, taken too harshly 578 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: by by a person who's like pretty level headed and 579 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: is a good partner and all of that stuff. 580 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 581 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me in the comments, like, you know, 582 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: we mentioned the camera thing, what would you do? At 583 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: this point, it feels like the paranoia is kind of 584 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: starting to build an OP, which is unfortunate. I don't 585 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: want to see that for OP. But definitely definitely a 586 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: tricky situation. But we have some answers. Let's get into 587 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: the update. Contemplating every possible source of two tampons has 588 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: been my personal hell for the past few weeks, but 589 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to share an update. 590 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah again, I feel like, you. 591 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Know, her mind is going on and on and on 592 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: in these in this whirlpool of paranoia, and it's it's 593 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I hate to see it. 594 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: I hate to see it. 595 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: Shortly after posting on here, I told my sister what 596 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: happened the tampon in the backseat and the sock drawer, 597 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: my husband's cluelessness, the tampon from Fiona, and all the 598 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: things I suspected but did not want to believe. We 599 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: compared tampons save for the one in the back seat 600 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I had already discarded, and they were a match, just 601 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: in different absorbancies. So I'm guessing it's like the same brand, 602 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: same type, but slightly different. I hadn't left either in 603 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: a place where my husband or daughters would have found 604 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: them and moved them around. My daughters didn't know what 605 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: they were or where they came from. My sister was 606 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: convinced it was Fiona either efing my husband, effing with me, 607 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: or both. Damn not getting double f'ed out here. 608 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: No, we can't. 609 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: We can't let that happen. To Opie, direct confrontation of 610 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: either party still seemed like a bad idea, so she 611 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: suggested inviting Fiona and her husband over for our Labor 612 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: Day barbecue. Unfortunately, they already had plans. 613 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: See, this is. 614 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: Where I'm like, I can kind of understand on Fiona, 615 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: You're worried, Like, Okay, what if she's innocent and I 616 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of make this accusation and then it could be 617 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of awkward. My husband is driving this person, you know, 618 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: maybe multiple times a week, and the carpool probably works 619 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: with this person. 620 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: I could see why Opie is. 621 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Hesitant to talk to Fiona out of fear for maybe 622 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: falsely accusing her and maybe something else. 623 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: But what about the husband. 624 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you said, like the honeymoon phase of five years, 625 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Like it seems like he is, 626 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, pretty pretty down to be with you and 627 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: hopefully in that case more understanding. You're talking to me, 628 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Lauren my sister, Oh, that's funny. That's literally the next line. 629 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: My sister and I agreed that it was too soon 630 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: for cameras without any other evidence, so it was just 631 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: a waiting game from there, watching my husband for any 632 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: change behavior there was none, or the house for any misplaced, 633 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: slash foreign items there were none also, and even the 634 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: girls for any new friends they might have met. My 635 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: sister's husband was adamant on the last point and partly 636 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: why he was inclined to believe that the tampons were harmless. 637 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: If anything had happened in or around our home, he said, 638 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: it would be nearly impossible to keep it from me 639 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: and the girls since my husband was the one taking 640 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: them to and from daycare and most activities during that week. 641 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: I felt a good bit of consolation in that it 642 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: wasn't until my younger daughter, two years old, came down 643 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: with something last week that I felt any differently. I 644 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: wanted to be the one home taking care of her, 645 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: but my husband insisted that I stay at work while 646 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: he stayed home with her. 647 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: I was okay with that. 648 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: My sister and her husband figured it was a good 649 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: sign that he would take time off at a moment's notice, 650 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: and at that point we were already beginning to put 651 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: the tamp on fiasco behind us. By the third or 652 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: fourth day, I was just happy to see a nearly 653 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: healthy child and a husband who was helping see her 654 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: through it. Toward the end of the week, though, I 655 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: came home to something strange. Man, ohp is just not 656 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: getting any breaks over here? Guys, My goodness, the toddler 657 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: that I'd left that morning in an old PJS was 658 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: now dressed in a onesie I had never seen before. Man, 659 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: if this is this person dressing the baby, am I'm lost? 660 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Is this mind games? 661 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: Bruh? 662 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: I do not know what's happening over here, also with 663 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: a tiny clip in her hair. I can't say that 664 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: I have the sharpest memory, but I have a pretty 665 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: good sense of what my kids wear on a day 666 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: to day basis, particularly what kinds of clothes they wear. 667 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: I'd sworn off the full length sleepsuits with snaps across 668 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: the front long before we'd ever had our second So 669 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: this is also something that not only would she probably 670 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: not buy, but that they wouldn't have in the house 671 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: because I'm sure unless she just completely didn't communicate that 672 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: to her husband, I have to imagine that he would 673 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: know that. 674 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: So it's like, why would he buy it? Kind of strange. 675 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: The long snaps are just a pain in the ass 676 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: and a no go for efficient diaper changes in my opinion, 677 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: It's just not something that I would dress her in, 678 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: and my husband knows as much. 679 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: There you go. 680 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't plan for or buy the girl's clothes, and 681 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: he certainly doesn't cessorized them. So I was bewildered and 682 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: kind of floored at the thought of someone around our 683 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: sick child without my knowledge. I didn't think twice, and 684 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I went straight to my husband to ask if anyone 685 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: had been over to see him or the girls. He 686 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: seemed confused like before and asked me why I would 687 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: think that it had just been him and the kids 688 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: all day. I asked him again if someone had so 689 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: much as stop to say hello, and he denied it. 690 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: He told me to calm down. I might have lashed 691 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: out and come forward with the accusations right then. And there, 692 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: but our oldest daughter was in the room, and she 693 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: sent something was up in a calmer voice. I asked 694 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: him a third time if anyone had been around our children, 695 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: and my husband swore that the girls hadn't been around 696 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: anyone but him. He also denied buying new clothes or 697 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: doing anyone's hair. With our daughter in the room and 698 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: my emotions all over the place, I decided to leave it. 699 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't make sense of it then, and it hardly 700 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: seems clear now after I've driven myself half crazy with 701 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: explanations that aren't adding up, and we've got a few 702 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: relevant comments here to answer a couple of questions. My 703 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: two year old can only string together a couple of 704 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: words at a time when I ask her about her 705 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: time with daddy or her clothes slash bo. She answers 706 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: based on the cues I give her, who gave you. 707 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: That pretty bow? Then she repeats pretty bow, bro, come on, 708 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: help me out here, help me out, help you girl. 709 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: Out, or mama slash daddy over and over again. My 710 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: older daughter, almost four, was at daycare that morning, and 711 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: she can't recall anything different from that day. Doesn't remember 712 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: the PG change or the hair clip. So my guess 713 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: is that she was changed sometime that morning, but I'm 714 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: not totally sure. 715 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 716 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: That sucks because it's like you wanna would ask the 717 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: kids like, hey, did did dad you know? Did a 718 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: new friend come over? Did a new friend help give 719 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: you new pretty bow? Or something like that? But the 720 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: kids literally, oh man, the kids don't The four year 721 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: old doesn't know. The two year olds can only say 722 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: bo bruh every time. Bro the opie's being tortured with this. 723 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I have a forty five minute kem 724 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: me to work, so stopping by for lunch isn't really feasible. 725 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: My sister has been kind enough to leave work and 726 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: drive past a few times here and there, and she 727 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: hasn't seen anything out of the ordinary. We have a 728 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: ring camera at the front door, and I've got the 729 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: app on my phone with notifications on nothing there yet. 730 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: If anyone has recommendations for a more discreete surveillance, I'd 731 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: be open to it. I'm just the least tech savvy 732 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: person and worry another camera will be easy to detect. 733 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 4: Lol. 734 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: And yes, we get our carbon monoxide detectors tested regularly. 735 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Is it possible one of the clips came from the daycare. 736 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: Interesting question. Also, maybe the onesie I don't know why, 737 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: Maybe she soiled it. I could see the hairclip being 738 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: a possibility, but less likely on the onesie. My younger 739 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: daughter hadn't been to daycare in days, and if either 740 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: of them had returned with something like that before, I 741 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: would have noticed, especially since it was the kind of 742 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: onesie I hate with the passion. People comment that they 743 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: can't wait to find out the ending to the saga. 744 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: My money's on the Hollywood horror ending. Ugh hopefully dreamed 745 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: up the dogs too, so I can finally stop picking 746 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: at their imaginary craps and whatnot. My goodness, onto the 747 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: final update. After nearly losing my mind over a hairclip 748 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: and a onesie, I realized I wasn't getting anywhere with 749 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: the accusations and half baked guesswork. 750 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 4: I made. 751 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: I gotten so absorbed in the paranoia and misery of 752 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: my situation that I wasn't sleeping, eating, or caring for 753 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: my kids the way I should have been. Oh and 754 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting any answers. So I decided to pull 755 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: the trigger on the hidden cameras and have them shipped 756 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: to my sister's house. Don't know if I'm the biggest fan, 757 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: but okay. With my brother in law agreeing to help 758 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: with the install slash set up up over at mine 759 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: before the cameras were ever delivered. Though I got my 760 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: long awaited confirmation last week, y'all, is this going to 761 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: be what we think it is? A ring notification had 762 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: alerted me to motion at the front door while I 763 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: was at work, half expecting to see a delivery person, 764 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: pet or a lawn care salesman for the fifteenth time. 765 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: You can imagine my surprise when I saw a clip 766 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: of a young woman leading my daughter into the house 767 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: hand in hand, with my husband and other daughter close 768 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: behind them. Okay, yo, It's one thing to take someone 769 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: to your house, you know, like after hours, cheat, cheat 770 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: on the person you promised to spend your life with 771 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: the mother of your children and your letteger see the children, 772 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: take care of the children, walk the children. God, damn 773 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: bro this man, this man, this man with my husband 774 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: and other daughter clothes behind them. The girls were supposed 775 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: to be in day and my husband at work. The woman, 776 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: as far as I knew, was living two states away 777 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: with a court order keeping her there. I immediately called 778 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: my husband to ask him what the f this woman 779 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: was doing in our house. He didn't answer, so I 780 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: texted him. Even in his stupidity, he probably realized that 781 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: he messed up by going to the front door knowing 782 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: I had gotten the ring notification and wanted to delay 783 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: the inevitable by the fifth or sixth subsequent call, though 784 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: he did pick up. The woman on the camera was 785 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: my husband's sister Okay. As I would find out later, 786 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: she was likely the source of both the tampons, the onesie, 787 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: and the bow. She is also a registered sex offender 788 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: and a recovering addict who spent the better part of 789 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: her adolescence and young adulthood coercing the silence of another 790 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: one of my husband's family members after she had essayed them. 791 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so much worse. This is 792 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: so much worse. Why would he do that in front 793 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: of his own children? Because it was it was one 794 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: of her husband's family members. My god, I don't even 795 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: know what to say. I don't even know what to 796 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: think right now. I hadn't seen or heard from her 797 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: in years, and from the way my husband talked about her, 798 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: I didn't expect I ever would, But here she was 799 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: in our house with our children. Suffice to say, I 800 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: was livid it wasn't an affair at all, and still 801 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: somehow infinitely more disgusting knowing who it was and why 802 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: all of this had been happening. Apparently, my sister in law, 803 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: fresh off another stint and rehab, had wanted to reconnect 804 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: and make amends with people she'd hurt, and my husband 805 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: was high on that list. My husband didn't want me 806 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: to know, or worse, try and keep her family our 807 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: children away from her, so they'd been meeting in secret, 808 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: often at our house while I was at work. They 809 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: would enter through the garage in my husband's car so 810 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: the ring camera at the front of the door wouldn't 811 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: tip me off. Yeah, Like, it's all kind of coming 812 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: together now, like he has denied everything almost certainly, it 813 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: seems all arros are pointing to the fact that all 814 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: of these different clues that op was just going crazy 815 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: over and diving into her paranoia. Spaghetti was the sister, 816 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: and she did talk to him about it multiple times, 817 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: it seems, and he never came forward with the truth. 818 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: And why would he ever hide the truth in the 819 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: first place, knowing what his sister has done, not saying 820 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: that they can't reconnect as adults, for sure, But why 821 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: sneak your children to see her without telling your wife? 822 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: I am, I am at a complete loss for you, 823 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: My dude. She spent the night on a weekend I 824 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: had been on a business and slept in our bed. 825 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 2: Is this going even further worse? I thought? 826 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully this doesn't go Game of Thrones? Please God. She 827 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: babysat our girls on a night. My husband told me 828 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: he had dropped them off at his parents, so she 829 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: was alone. 830 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is bad. 831 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: She brought the girl's clothes and dressed my youngest in 832 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: the onesie in the bow that my husband had promised 833 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: on his life. I had dressed her in myself. I 834 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: am getting I mean, red flags is like a understatement. 835 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: This is very dangerous, like very very dangerous. I mean 836 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, why would the sister. I mean, 837 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: I guess you got to change a baby eventually, but 838 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: something about buying this onesie and then changing the baby 839 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: is very, very very much not sitting well with me. 840 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: My husband swore the this was all in my head. 841 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: The tampons, the onesie, the bow and all the rest. 842 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: He was perfectly content. To watch me agonize for weeks 843 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: over a woman he insisted didn't exist, shruved off each 844 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: progressively more unsettling discovery like it was news to him, 845 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: and telling me I was being irrational. He insinuated that 846 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: I was experiencing postpartum depression two years after. 847 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 2: I had given birth. Bruh, how post can it go? 848 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 4: Dude? 849 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't my God? Just more bs from this man, 850 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: four years after I told him that one of my 851 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: biggest fears for motherhood was to suffer postpartum depression like 852 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: my mother had with me, to not be fully present 853 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: for our babies and be left with the world of 854 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: guilt and regret as they grew older. He told me 855 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't sleeping enough, that I missed the girls too much, 856 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: that I needed to step back and evaluate the state 857 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: of my mental health. I gave him the benefit of 858 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: the doubt because he was my husband, and because no 859 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: other version of events made sense. Now, after a month 860 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: of this mind f I have nothing to show for 861 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: my trust but his pathetic situation and a lot of anger. 862 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: And it ends on one final comment and answer call 863 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: the cops and a lawyer, Opie says, already on it 864 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: believe me, we're going scorched earth with this mother effort. 865 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Wow. 866 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: When it gets worse, I mean, I'm I'm just so, 867 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm so completely lost. And look, we see all kinds 868 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: of people that don't do anything that makes sense on 869 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: this show, right, We've seen some wackos out there. But 870 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: for Opie's husband to do all this with his kids 871 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: with his sister again, there's nothing wrong. 872 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: I think with. 873 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: Allowing at least the hands for someone to try to. 874 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: Improve themselves, better themselves. 875 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: It's better them, It's better than them staying where they're 876 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: at or becoming worse possibly because of you know, being 877 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: neglected and maybe not being able to get in touch 878 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: with or try to repair things with people that they've 879 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, broken their trust and worse and worse and worse. 880 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: But Opie's husband just did not have to do this 881 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: in the oh my god, like at all. Like I 882 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: would love to know why, Like why did Opie's husband 883 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: What is his what possible justification could he possibly have 884 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: for leaving his children with his sister alone? I just 885 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: don't understand it at all. Why can't the two of 886 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: them get together as adults? You know, I don't know, 887 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: like go out, go get dinner somewhere, you know, talk, 888 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, to get a coffee or something. I don't know, 889 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: like anything in the world, but what he did. I 890 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: am at a complete loss for this guy. To be 891 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm glad that Op is taking the 892 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: action that she is. I don't know that it's clear 893 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: or not if she's going to divorce. It wasn't said explicitly. 894 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: I would imagine though, when she says scorched earth, that's 895 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: what she means. I hope. So this is insanity. Oh 896 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: my god. Please let us know in the comments what 897 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: you all think. What's your breakdown, what's your take? Any 898 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: advice honestly for Op or anybody in Op's position, would 899 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: love to hear it down below, But without further ado, 900 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: let's get into our final story.