WEBVTT - Girls Talk, ‘Boys Talk: The Bark 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.400 Cowboys. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.040 This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.640 trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.880 and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.040 Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.920 Hello, Cowboys Nation. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.879 I wish I was saying Merry Christmas, but still. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.720 Happy Holidays here on Girls Dog Boys Talk, presented by 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.920 Invisi Line. Here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hudgson 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.840 alongside Asia Morrison and Jazz Money Ladies. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:45.640 How was a Christmas? 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:46.400 Was good? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:57.959 E Wasy's crazy games switching between NBA and NFL. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.600 I didn't even switch. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.120 His time was well, I had a NFL on, but 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.160 I barely watched it, Like, I don't know. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:05.959 I was focused on things, but it was. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:06.319 A good thing. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:07.959 He's more focused on the NBA stuff. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.120 No, I wasn't watching the NBA at all. It was 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.080 It was weird because normally I'm like sports obsessed on Christmas, 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.920 and yesterday I was like, no, I'm gonna like call 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.720 loved ones and clean the house and love that. Yeah, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:21.880 different vibes. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.559 On the Texans game too, But then. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.080 I was rough to watch it. It's not for halftime. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.119 Halftime was good. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.199 Come on, by'all, get it. Get it was great. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.319 It was a good performance. Yes, great, it was a 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.240 great performance. You know, you can't you can't downplay anything. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.679 She you know who else has had a great performance 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:52.360 this year, am, But he unfortunately a season has come 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.720 to an end. Obviously he's been dealing with the shoulder injury. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.400 But he had more examinations than tests today. Uh So, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.360 the Cowboys pr did announce that he will be out 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.560 for the remainder of the season. He will undergo treatment 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.400 and rehabilitation for a shoulder, but he will not be 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.120 required to get surgery, so that's a good thing. But 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.840 obviously still praying that Ceedee Lamb does recover well. Just 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.680 thoughts on the news currently. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.800 Y'all know that meme with with a childish gambino dmo 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.639 Donald Glover, No. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.760 Well, and he has the microphone. I think he's doing 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.400 a stand up and he's like, I'm gonna try to 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:29.720 find it on. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.320 I'm familiar with the meme, but. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:36.880 But you know what I'm talking about? 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:37.679 What the clip is? 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:38.360 It where's it from. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.120 I don't know, I'm not it sounds like something that 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.520 might have happened in ATL. But the overhall messages received, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.440 I do think that this is the best option for 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.240 CD at this point. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.799 Of course, you hate to see it happen to him. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.400 You hate to hear that apparently his injury has progressed 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.840 according to the way that the situation. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.240 Sorry, but I have to cut you up. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.320 I did find it all right. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.720 Bet Oh no, No, that's pre ATL. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.760 I don't know what that probably is from the stand 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.160 up what you got, But you hate to hear that 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.800 apparently the injury has progressed because watching him go in 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.600 the game so often these past few weeks, that's what 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.480 you're afraid of. So while that's bad news, it is 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.280 good news that he doesn't have to have surgery. He 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.480 has had a heck of a year, and him pushing 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.920 through this injury has gotten a lot of people to 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.720 realize that he is a tough player, that he does 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.359 have some leadership ability, which is good because I feel 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.639 like a lot of Cowboys Nation has waysted several seasons 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.840 in a row just disliking this man for what I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.639 don't think of very good reason. But and it's like, Okay, 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.000 it took an injury for people to get it, but 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.640 they're finally getting it that, you know, Ceedee Lamb is 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.920 an incredible asset to the Dallas Cowboys. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:43.880 So all that stuff is good. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.960 But I'm glad that they caught it before something terrible happened, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:49.800 that he's shutting it down for the season, and that 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.800 all it's going to take is apparently an off season 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.120 for him to be back to one hundred. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.280 Yeah, I agree, it was. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.720 I even tweeted out during the game like, whereas I 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.800 thought it was admirable, I know a lot of people 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.080 will commenting at me like, oh, you know what, it's 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.360 a ac joint and it can't get worse. 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.400 Yes, you can't, and it can't get this and this 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:06.640 and that. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.800 I understand that there's like some details in that as 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.360 far as like the limitations and stuff like that, but 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.360 you just the amount of pain he like, pain is 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:16.919 not good period, and the amount of. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.120 Pain that he was in playing through is not healthy. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.800 It's not even healthy to how your brain functions and 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.720 how your brain decipher's pain. So I was just I'm 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.240 okay with them shutting shutting him down, and also gives 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.480 the guys that you know, we maybe haven't gotten a 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.120 great look at we got two games division rivals of 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.320 Jonathan Mingo, You're gonna get a chance maybe to look 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.760 at uh Ryan Floroy. Just get some of these guys 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.919 some snaps and see what they got as well. You 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.919 only got two games left, man, so you got to 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.640 make the best of it at this point. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:46.720 I think. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.240 And with just the whole situation of just having two 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.920 games left, you're not going to the playoffs, why even 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:52.720 put him out there? 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.480 Yeah, he's your future future. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.160 But ceede Lamb. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.240 I mean, we've talked about it before, the fact that 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.000 he's just such a competitor naturally, so it says a 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.000 lot about him, like you kind of mentioned about his 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.400 competitive spirit, but again, like you don't want to risk 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.320 anything worse happening to him. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.320 So certainly glad that they shut that down. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.920 Well, what does this mean for Cooper Rush, Because it's 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.360 kind of like what you mentioned about Michael Parsons, now 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.800 that he's on a contract year and if they don't 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.080 bring it back, you'll know what you got till it's gone. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.360 It's more interesting for Cooper Rush just because even though 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.960 Cooper Rush didn't target CD as much as people thought 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.080 he should. CD at least did demand enough attention to 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.279 where other targets had were either open or not you know, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.560 double covered or anything like that. So what we might 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.760 see now is that there are some other receivers that 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.599 Cooper Rush used to be able to depend. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.000 On that are now getting more attention from the defense. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.440 It could make things kind of interesting from that aspect 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.479 to see how that impacts his decision making it's time 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:54.679 to throw someone and so forth. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.320 Yeah, I think that it started a little bit last week, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.520 if you want to be honest. Obviously, CD had that 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.800 drive where he was just dominant. He had spots in 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.800 that game in the first half in particular, where he 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:06.480 you know, just was unguardable. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.320 They didn't really have anyone that can handle him. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:12.160 However, we did see Cooper Brush spread the ball around tremendously. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:13.960 You know, he got the ball to Jake Ferguson, he 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.799 got the ball to Brandon Cooks, Ryan Floyd had to catch. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.880 I mean, I think I don't know if I think yeah, like, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.760 but you a lot of receivers touched the touch the 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.720 ball last week. I think you continue that trend of 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.119 spreading the ball around, not giving guys Like, clearly, teams 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.200 are gonna know if CD Lamb's not out there, they're 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.479 gonna be able to They're gonna the other guys are 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.200 gonna have to earn it this last couple of games, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.240 depending on how seriously these teams take these two games. Yeah, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.440 like they're they're gonna have to earn the respect of 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.800 the guys across from them. So for me, continue to 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.880 spread the ball around, be multiple, and don't give people 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.159 an opportunity to, you know, get a beat on what 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:51.800 you're trying to do. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.680 Who do you feel like has orre you about to 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:54.080 see something? 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.360 I'm sorry, Oh, I was about to ask you a question, Okay, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.000 go ahead ahead. 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.680 I was just curious if y'all thought, like, okay, if 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.160 you Eagles defense and you know, Ceedee Lamb not gonna 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.919 be out there. So do do you stack the box 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.760 more and try to stop Rego Downald from having a game? 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.000 Do you put more attention on Brandon Cooks or Cavante Turpin? 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.360 Like what do you turn to in this offense? You 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.440 don't I feel like I was no, no. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.640 I was, I was gonna kind of say it brings 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.400 that like element of surprise does it kind of a 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.360 little bit just because Ceedee Lamb does demand so much 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.360 attention to where you don't know. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.480 Of course, you've seen good things from Jayalen Tolbert, You've 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.440 seen good things obviously from Brandon Cooks, Cavante turping with 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.160 his speed, But you really don't know what you have 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.880 until you're constantly having to find that connection with other 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.040 guys or seeing them get a little bit more opportunities. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:43.400 So that's what I don't know. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:44.200 I think. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:52.200 They gonna play what's the whole over there be the most. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.680 Big fan y'all gonna play them straight up. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.160 As a matter of fact, he might be more aggressive 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.920 because what I'm gonna look like, what does it look 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.280 like is they play the base, which is for them. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.840 I mean they play cover one, Cover two they do. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.560 They're gonna play split safety. They're gonna make you work 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.680 for it. They're gonna make you be methodical down the field. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.160 I think that it doesn't change. It does change. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.800 To y'all's point, it changes, like, Okay, who's their safety? 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:17.800 Is it not blanket? 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.960 It's the blanken ship. Reblanken ship might. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.840 Be a little bit more aware of what's going on on. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.760 Ceedee Lamb's side of the field, or whatever the case 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.480 may be, you take that away. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.680 He like, I'm just playing my part. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.600 I'm just I mean, like I said, the guys are 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.840 gonna have to earn the respect of those guys because, yeah, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.640 because CD's not gonna ced warrants you bracketing him. None 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.120 of the guys that are out there, with respect to 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.120 every single one of them, warrant a double team at 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:45.600 this point. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.520 So you just play straight up. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.080 Yeah, I know, I don't. You don't think he's at all. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.479 This is one of the best covers teams in the NFL. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.600 They can play straight up man. They play straight up man. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.120 They're gonna throw different fronts at you. Their front seven 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.839 can get home there. I don't think that it changes 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.720 much of what they're gonna do towards you. They're just 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.360 gonna make you earn everything, which is what they were 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.120 already gonna do in the first place, because that's kind 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.720 of what a vic van Dio's defense is like. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.320 So yeah, I don't think it's gonna change whole bunch, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:14.720 but I. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.400 Do think that it's easier for them, which sucks because 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.600 it does because they have an account for him moving 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:21.920 in and out of the slot and some of the 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.880 stuff he does. I mean, he took over points in 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.280 that game and no one could defend him. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.320 So it's it's limiting. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:29.920 But like I said, I do think if they stay 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.719 multiple that might keep keep them on their toes, keep 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.199 them on there, keep keep Philly's defense on their toes. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.040 In some way, maybe you can win that fight. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.560 So who has more pressure do you feel? 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.480 Because I was gonna ask this question about the secondary, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.040 but I want to say, I want to ask who 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.800 has the most to prove offensively in the receiver room, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.280 in the cowboys room for. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.959 The cowboys, who has the most to prove? That's that's 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:56.640 an interesting question because having something to prove relates to 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.040 not only abilities, but also expectations. So there are some 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.679 people who I don't think we've seen their full ability, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.560 But I also don't hear a lot when it terms 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.800 when it comes to what people expect from them. So 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.120 my natural instinct would be to say Jalen Tolbert, just 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.439 because I think he's got more in his tank in 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.600 terms of what he can do that he hasn't shown us. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.080 But like the general population doesn't seem to really talk 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.240 about him. Much when they talk about people they expect 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.199 to step up, I think people will probably want to 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.719 see Cavante Turpin use more when it comes to the 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.000 most creative plays we've seen from the Cowboys offense, especially 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.920 when it comes to like wildcat formation and stuff like that. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.360 We've seen Cavantae Turpin use in some interesting ways, whether 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.520 it's just things we didn't expect Mike McCarthy to call, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.199 or things we were like, I didn't know Kavante Turpin 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.600 could do that, right, Yeah, So my brain instantly goes 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.839 to those two, not that they haven't been doing enough, 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.800 but just when I think of where there's room for 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.480 guys in the receiver room to do more, that's who 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:53.280 I think of. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.120 M That's a good one. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:11:00.680 Turpin actually had no receiving what's it called, uh. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.439 Catches last game. Yeah, I think he had the one 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:03.280 out of the backfield. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.040 No, did he have anything at the backfield? No, he 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.720 had no catch quiet. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.600 He actually he actually hasn't had a lot of catches 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.800 in general. It's just that when he does have impactful 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.880 and that's why I'm like, yeah, I would like to 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:14.920 see him be used more. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.320 But when he is used, well, that's because also, I mean, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.880 this was still the time we was this week ten 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.920 when they last played Philly, they were still kind of 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.079 figuring things out offensively, and that was Cooper rush first start. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.280 Still, so it's kind of like. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.800 You gotta look at it a little differently and so 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.080 to speak, just because there are different points of the season. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.520 In my bad, I did not mean to cut you off. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:35.319 No, you didn't get me off. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.079 I was waiting. I thought she was gonna give us. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.280 Oh, okay, my bad. H I'm gonna go. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.800 Who has the most to prove. I think I'm gonna 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.520 stick with No. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.600 I'm not gonna go Tober because I feel like he's 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.840 been called upon in big games and big moments. I 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.640 feel like he's proved himself however he could. Obviously there's 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.760 still room to grow and still more to show. But 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:03.800 that rhyme, but no, dang, I'm gonna go. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.760 We've seen Cavante Turpin. I feel like everybody has a 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.280 lot to prove in that receiver room. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.600 I mean, but Mingo like. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.880 Yeah, but he hasn't been targeted that much, so it's 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.440 kind of like that connection still hasn't built. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:16.800 I'm gonna go. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.360 Jalen Brooks Okay, that's gonna go Jalen Brooks and Ryan Flinoy. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.600 We saw a little bit of Flinoy last week, but 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.040 I feel like once the opportunities come, you'll see a 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.000 little bit more from him. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.640 I think I'm gonna go Ryan Flinoy. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.400 Yeah for now, that's fair. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.200 I mean late round pick. Yeah, there might be some 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:33.920 coaching changes. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.000 We never know what happens. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.880 Like guy's got to show their self valuable, which sucks, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:39.720 but it's the truth. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:41.880 For me, I think it's Jayalen Tobert. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.520 I was very high on Jalen. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.360 Tober coming out the draft. I don't think he hasn't 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.000 proved himself. What what what I think he's done. I 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.360 think he's proved that he is a capable wide receiver 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.600 in this NFL, which is what we were waiting on. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.680 Now I'm trying to see if he's gonna be able 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.840 to the CD lamb out. Can you be a wide 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.920 receiver two at the very at the very least, can 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.640 you be a steady, reliable because when you look across 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.640 the NFL, like some of the best receiver combos, they 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.120 have a one on the two, and that two is 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.600 valuable because that two's gonna make you pay if that 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.080 one is bracketed. So you want to see is the 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.720 Cowboys are clearly looking That's why they brought in Mingo. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.160 They are looking for a number two. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.800 That's why they brought in Brandon Cooks. They are looking 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.439 for someone to pair with him with CD Lamb. And 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.520 when you look at Tober's draft profile, there were similarities 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.560 in the player, the concentration, how they're adjusted to the ball, 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.840 the attitude, all those things. We're still like, I think 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.720 James Tober's made some clutch grabs and key spots, and 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.120 we've seen his improvement. Is he a number wide receiver two? 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.400 Or do we need to see Mingo have more snaps? 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:53.480 Or do we need to go. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:54.400 Draft a wide receiver? 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.640 Or do you like you need someone to pair with 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.840 CD Lamb? And I think. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.959 Whatever Tobert is able to to show you here soon 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.480 is going to be important going into the next. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.480 Part of the year because we're three. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.760 Years in now and we need to know are you, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.360 you know, gonna be someone that people honor. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.840 I can tell you what Philly's gonna do. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.319 They're gonna press, They're gonna try to make these guys 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:15.960 get off of press. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.000 This is a big game for Jayalen Tober to show 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.160 that he can get off of press, that he can 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.080 accelerate past the defender. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.720 And I'm just looking for that. So for me, it's 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:24.880 gonna be Jayleen Sober. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.560 So with go ahead. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.720 I'm sorry, I got so many questions. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.800 I'm just wondering because, like we're talking about who's gonna 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.120 be the wide receiver too, right, considering everything that's happened 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.440 this season with Dak being out and just Brandon Cooks 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.680 being out for a while, do we think that these 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:44.520 guys actually know. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.440 What's expected of a wide receiver too? 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.240 Like has there been enough consistency in the offense and 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.960 then the play calling like for them to know, like, Oh, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.200 if I want to be considered a wide receiver too, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.000 this is what I need to do. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:57.920 I think, Oh, what were something? 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.320 I get what she asks me? 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.240 Ask again, like basically with all that, you. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.160 Feel like they do? 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.160 I think that they know because sometimes Mike mccarthiel says 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.920 stuff like that, and my friend's question is like, do 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.160 they do they know that you're thinking this? Like when 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.880 he said about Ricodoudele and he was like, well, the 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.400 next thing rig Go Daddle needs to do is is 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.360 step his game up and becoming every down back And 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.800 I'm like, is he just choosing not to do that 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.000 or does he not know. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.960 It's involved with Yeah, no, see what you're saying. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.080 And the reason why I ask is because, like y'all 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.400 have been athletes before, I think we all are familiar 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.800 with the with the experience of like sometimes you just 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.720 don't know until you know, Like sometimes you think you 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.160 understand something, but it's not until you've been, like really 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.040 been put in a situation where you have to face 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.120 it where it's like, oh, I actually have to train 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.040 harder than I thought. I actually have to watch more 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.120 film than I thought. Oh I actually have to go 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.120 harder than I thought I did. And it's not until 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.520 you get to that point where you thought, Okay, I 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.680 thought that was my limit, but actually there's more and 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.400 I do need to do more. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.160 YEA, yeah, yeah, I mean to answer your question, multiple 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.000 guys in that room have been a wide receiver too, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.680 so they know what it's called for. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.120 Ceedee Lamb, he's a receiver two. To Amari Cooper, he 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.480 know what it calls for. A lot of time, wide. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:15.440 Receiver twos are number ones in weight or they're guys 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.440 that think that they're number ones, but they're not number 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.960 ones yet, and really as far as what they're being 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.400 asked to do, I mean, if this guy's getting bracketed, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.120 it's no different than in basketball, right if there's a 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.440 double team, somebody's open. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:27.600 You're the guy. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.520 You're the guy. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.000 You're supposed to be the guy that people still have 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.080 to honor, or you make people pay for bracketing the 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:34.560 other guy. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.240 Whide receiver twos black. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.440 On the outside, they do other things they drive guys 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.760 out of, like they pull guys out of plays like 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.640 wide receiver twos are to me just as valuable. I 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.440 don't think that there's a difference in value. I think 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.920 it's a difference in the role and just their role. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.400 I guess you want to say, but Brandon Cooks has 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.880 been a wide receiver too in multiple places, and we 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.520 talked about the mentorship that he gives to these guys. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.680 I believe, yes, I believe that they know what the 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.480 job is. I agree with you that the job probably 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.480 does get more complicated, giving the rotation of injuries and 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.480 all the different stuff. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.920