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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's time for

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Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast

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Speaker 1: studio here at the Star in Frisco. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: April fourteenth, and we are two weeks away from Draft

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Speaker 1: day on Thursday April twenty eighth. I'm sorry, um, something's

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Speaker 1: gone here. What's tromp? No? No partition? Number one number?

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Speaker 1: Where's the music? No intro? Did y'all lose the hotel?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, Chris. Maybe we're just not

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Speaker 1: hearing the music. I gotta do my look. You know

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Speaker 1: that tells you how long it's been since you've guess.

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Speaker 1: So the partitions went away and then they came back,

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Speaker 1: I know, and then they went away, went away away

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Speaker 1: last week and we've been away. I like the music, man,

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Speaker 1: come get you, and we haven't done the music in

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Speaker 1: like two months. So where have you been? Come on? Man,

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Speaker 1: the music, man, Why do we get do away? Right?

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Speaker 1: So I will know not that music, I'll make up music.

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Speaker 1: And I've been carrying this around with me for three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I went through some old stuff and I found this,

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Speaker 1: and I figured you would enjoy it more. You said

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Speaker 1: you had something. Oh yeah, that's big. Do we want

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Speaker 1: to explain what this is? Yeah, it's the front page

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Speaker 1: of the sports section of the Saint Petersburg Times at

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Speaker 1: the time of Super Bowl twenty four Everson Walls of

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Speaker 1: New York Giant, A giant thriller twenty nineteen. Just so

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Speaker 1: you know, who's the picture of Norwood? That is Myron

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Speaker 1: Guiding all right. And there is an inside story and

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Speaker 1: there's quotes from Everson on one of the stories. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: I figured you would enjoy that. I had it in

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Speaker 1: a pile of old newspapers. So you're giving it to him?

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Speaker 1: It's his Well, you know the thing. I appreciate this

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Speaker 1: stuff I have. By the way, no, I what this

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Speaker 1: You know, the country was really trippered at the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And excuse me watch ye I'm not

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Speaker 1: now Like Daniel Jeremiah has Davante Wyatt as his number

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Speaker 1: a swing tackle. Okay, No, no, in the dish into

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00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: being a swing tackle? Oh yeah, yes, yes, all right.

426
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: Here's the pecking order on the offensive lineman offensive tackles. Okay.

427
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: You got the two at the very top, i Akanu

428
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: and Evan Neil, and they're gonna go in the top

429
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: five six picks. Okay. And then you've got Charles Cross

430
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: from Mississippi State, and he is being projected by some

431
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: as as a top ten pick. There have been some

432
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: who say that he might slide, and there are some

433
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: who say that the Cowboys might even be able to

434
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: package from twenty four move up if they really like him.

435
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: Take him, all right, what if Gill has him at five?

436
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: He's got him at five, or let's say let's say

437
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: he slid to sixteen true guard. No, he's a tackle.

438
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: He's a offensive tackle, and some say he's the best

439
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: pass blocking tackle in this draft. We're talking about Charles Cross,

440
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Okay, I'm just thrown him out there as

441
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: an example because Nicky said he doesn't want to take

442
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: a tackle unless he's gonna start for you. Okay, all right,

443
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: here's here's a guy that in law likelihood way, he

444
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: is rated, and you are trading up to take him.

445
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: He's probably going to be your starting right tackle if

446
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: you're drafting him in the first round. Okay, Now, Terrence

447
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Steele becomes your swing tackle, you still don't have your guard.

448
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: But are you willing to do that? Well, my thoughts

449
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: are when they cut Lale Collins, in their mind, they

450
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: did it because Terrence Steele played better than him last year, right,

451
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: and so there, And like I always say, at some point,

452
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: you can't have a stake at every offensive line position.

453
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Let me throw one more thing on this now, not

454
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: just for this now, for this year, Cross could start

455
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: it probably another tackle. Next year, Cross could start at

456
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: right tackle. He's being projected by some Gil Brand included

457
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: as a top five pick in this draft, meaning that

458
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: he has a the ability to play left tackle and

459
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: eventually replace Tyrn Smith as your left tackle. But he's

460
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: not going to be the last guy that can replace

461
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: todcast Man. All right, So now you're picked best player.

462
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: Now that the best player available at a position of need.

463
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I want the best player available that wasn't

464
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: no position of need. Okay, and they've got a position

465
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: A position of need. Would be a wide receiver, it

466
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: would be an offensive guard or tackle. It could be

467
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: a linebacker. It could be a defensive tackle or end,

468
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: or a defensive end or especially a defense. Seriously, bailout.

469
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I want the best player there. Okay. If I've got

470
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: let's say, I mean, let's just use And that wasn't

471
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: the premise that let's I'm trying to think of it.

472
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Of an example of a guy. Okay, here's for instance. Okay,

473
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: go back in the Cowboys past. Okay, in two thousand

474
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: and eight, the Cowboys had two first round draft picks. Okay,

475
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: they took Mike Jenkins and Felix Jones with those two

476
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: first round draft picks because they had a kneed at

477
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: cornerback and they had a need at running pick. Okay,

478
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to draft that year. It was

479
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Okay, he went early second round. I thought,

480
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: with one of those two first round picks, they need

481
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Okay. And and you think back to where

482
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were at wide receivers. TiO was right at

483
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: the you know, TiO, it was the end. It was

484
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: it was at the end or whatever. What did the

485
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to do in two thousand and eight during

486
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the season because they were so short at wide receiver,

487
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: they traded for Roy Williams and they gave up their

488
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: first round draft pick in two thousand and nine. How

489
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: awful was the two thousand and nine draft? Didn't have

490
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick and then started trading down

491
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: whatever in the second round. It was a bad draft

492
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: to begin with. All in all, but my point is, Okay,

493
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: we didn't think that they necessarily had a need at

494
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But the Jordy Nelson's a better player than

495
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Felix jones H or Mike Jenkins. So take Jordy Nelson

496
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: with that pick, and then you don't have to give

497
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: up your first round draft pick for us, all right,

498
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: we have the best player available as a safety. I've

499
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: got to take in a safety, you know, not in

500
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: the first Yeah, it's a quarter, I'm saying, in a position. Okay,

501
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: so what give me your position of need? Then, well,

502
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: after what we do. Well, here's the other part of

503
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: it is what I'm anticipating. What I'm inticipate. At least

504
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: give us a positioned just give us that. I love

505
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: taking a wide receiver. I gave you. I gave you

506
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: my position to need. Okay, I said every position. I said,

507
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver, offensive guard, or tackle, whatever. Okay, um, defensive tackle,

508
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: all right, all right, we got linebacker. We have to

509
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: we have to to pare it down. So okay, if

510
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: let me give you okay, I'll give you players, Scot

511
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean what I'll give you what player? What if again,

512
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: some position that you don't need, and Michael Parsons is there,

513
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you players. Okay.

514
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: If wide receiver, I mean, there's there's several that could

515
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: trail and Burke's Chris lave right. If this Drake London falls,

516
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean, any of those guys snap him up. Love it.

517
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. If Jordan Davis is there, I want that day.

518
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: If Davonte Wyatt is there, I'll take Davante why right, Okay?

519
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Um linebacker Nakobe Dean. I love this guy too, and

520
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: he's likely gonna be there. I mean, it sounds like

521
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. Okay, and so do I. If

522
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: I think Nakobe Dean is gonna be a Pro Bowl

523
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: player at linebacker, why would I take an offensive guard

524
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: to fill a quote unquote need right there? That offensive guard,

525
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't project him to be a Pro Bowl player

526
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: in his career. I'm gonna I want to take the

527
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: guy who in the first round, who I think has

528
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: the potential to be a Pro Bowl player at a

529
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: position of need. You look at the Cowboys best That

530
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the question. You look at the Cowboys best draft moments.

531
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Have they ever compromised themselves in that manner? Yes, give

532
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: me their best moments? Yes, I was gonna say their

533
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: worst moments best moments. I know you know worse because

534
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: you ranted, I want to do the best moments that

535
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had to where they needed someone they want

536
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: they need to fill in the spot and they say,

537
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: you know what, last year, Michael Parsons because they were

538
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: dead set on drafting a cornerback. And when the cornerbacks

539
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: were off the board, thank goodness, the cornerbacks were gone.

540
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: It was like God said, It's like everybody was sitting

541
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: there going, oh, no for once backs are going and

542
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm going no because my man Parsons is there. Yeah,

543
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: same thing. So you got trend and Jerry mentioned that

544
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: during his last press conference. He basically said, yeah, we

545
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: need this, this and this, but unless Michael Parsons or

546
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is sitting there, much changes your mind. My

547
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: point is, but it's a position that you could qualify

548
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: using right when you say best player available, because best player,

549
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: you better not take a tight end because I'm not

550
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna get caught up in the fact that I need

551
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I need a left guard because I can go find

552
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: there's a veteran left guard on the street right now

553
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: who I can go sign who this year is going

554
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: to be a better football player for my team. A

555
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: rookie coming in and he starts to suck, then that's

556
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: why he was available. Good guys, you get one in

557
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: the second round and there's there's free agent wide receivers

558
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: you can still sign, right, Jarvis Landry's still out there. Uh,

559
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: that would be a nice pickup. I see Sammy watching

560
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was going to visit somewhere today. T Y Hilton,

561
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders, Alan Hearns, by the way, And here's one

562
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize he was still available, markis Goodwin,

563
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: Texas wide receiver track star. He didn't. He was one

564
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: of the COVID outs twenty twenty, he was with the Giants,

565
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: and then last year I think Bears ended up with

566
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the Bears and he didn't get to play much at all.

567
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: He's from Rolette too. You might be able to get

568
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: him for a song and a dance. Let's see you

569
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: guys like I don't see you getting them for cheap right. Well,

570
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: but like Landry, those guys are all still out there.

571
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just wondering. Are they out there

572
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: looking for big deals? Are they have to looking for

573
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: one year deal? Well, I'll tell you what if. If

574
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Landry is that's a major. I'm out there and it's

575
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: May first, the draft's over. Yeah, I'm still out there. Yeah, yeah,

576
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: the one year deal for May that would be because

577
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: he's last week. You know, Miami was trying to trade

578
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker and the Cowboys made a phone call and

579
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: I bet they wanted They only wanted to give up

580
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: a fifth, and I think they ended up getting a third,

581
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: uh for or wherever he went. H So they're still

582
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: looking at the veteran wide wide receivers, but for the

583
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: price that they want to pay. Okay, not a long

584
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: term deal for some guys. We're not gonna try and

585
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: tabuild down. Then we're gonna let them well wide receiver

586
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers the first guy. Okay, because wide receivers the

587
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: first guy. Um, if if all things mean, if all

588
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: those guys are available, if all those guys are available

589
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: for me, I'll probably would take the wide receiver first,

590
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: and they would be although that if Jordan Davis is there,

591
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: that would he's Michael Parsons to me. Yeah, from what

592
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: I say, even though he's not a three down player, right,

593
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to be a three young player.

594
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: He frees up Michael Parsons to make plays. He would

595
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: he would be so good on first and second that

596
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: when they got so you're happy with him being in

597
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: the middle, Oh yeah, and putting Parsons on this on

598
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: the end. No, No, you're talking that did the nocacle?

599
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh Ordon Davis? Now, But to your point, Nikobe Dean

600
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: is the linebacker, yes, and he frees up Michael Parsons student.

601
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: Now you can play him both at linebacker or yeah,

602
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Nikoby Deane is okay, yes, and um, you can play

603
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: him at linebacker, and then Parsons can is freed up

604
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: to play on the edge if that's what you wanted

605
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: to do certain plays. I mean, he can go from

606
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: play to play. And I still think they'll do that

607
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: regardless with vander Esh and if Jabril Cox can play.

608
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: But again that's a big if on Jabil because jibro

609
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Cox is not the same type line right he is.

610
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: He's a nickel wife, Yeah, he's not, right, yeah. So yeah,

611
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: and if you get a true guy in the middle,

612
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: and that's why they they signed vander Esh to the

613
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: contract to let him play middle, so you can put

614
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Parsons at week or strong or whatever you want to

615
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: do with him and move him around. So yeah, and

616
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: and and so that's the beauty of what this draft

617
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: is for the Cowboys because they've got these needs, right,

618
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: and they've got needs that you can qualify taking in

619
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, I think we've hit him.

620
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: We've hit him off again, Guys, where we failed. I know, yeah,

621
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: where we failed was on the offensive line, and that

622
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: has got to be addressed, and not in a casual manner.

623
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: It needs to be somewhere. If they ain't, the top

624
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: needs to be. You say, that's that's just, and I'll

625
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: pete what I said last week about if you look

626
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: at where the money's going in the NFL, and now

627
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: we found another quarterback to go into the top five,

628
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: but pass quarterback. The next amount of money being spent

629
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: is on wide receivers. And there's a reason for that

630
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: because they do make a difference in the game. And

631
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you got to fortify that line. Can

632
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: I get Can I get a starting guard in the

633
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: second round or third round? And they've tried now. Connor

634
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Williams was fine until he started getting called for holding, right.

635
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Speaker 1: I never thought he was fine. Well, I think he

636
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637
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: Larry Allen, by the way, was found in the second round.

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Speaker 1: He was Sonoma State, all right, which good story on him.

639
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: So when we did a big documentary on Larry, when

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643
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Speaker 1: this assistant coach and he kept telling me about this

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Speaker 1: a scholarship. And he goes, okay, bring him in. So

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Speaker 1: they bring Larry Allen in to the gym and Larry

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Speaker 1: and and the assistant coach kept telling the head coach

649
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650
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Speaker 1: So Larry shows up at his what six three let

651
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652
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Speaker 1: I can't get that out of my head. He shows

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654
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: and he said, okay, Larry, you know, coach doesn't believe me,

655
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Speaker 1: but he says, you know, you can dunk. And they

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659
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Speaker 1: coach goes, he's got a scholarship. Yes, they have the

660
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Speaker 1: same They have that same story about Nate Newton. They

661
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662
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663
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Speaker 1: looking at a foal? Yeah, and it wasn't believed, Nate,

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667
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Speaker 1: have informed punter hunter Nice Wander they are waiving him

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00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: on Thursday, according to Michael Gillikin of the Dallas Morning News. Well,

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: which means he's healthy. Now. Remember they put him on

713
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: fully recovered from the back injury so they don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay him any injuries settlement. So they hung on

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00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: to him until he got there. Yeah, he was trying

716
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: to remember before he was the year before, right, and

717
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: he he came in when Zerline got hurt or what happened,

718
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: and he ended up kicking. In twenty twenty, he appeared

719
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: in eight games and punted twenty six times forty seven

720
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Speaker 1: yard average. He was he had ten kicks inside the

721
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: twenty yeah that year, so it was pretty good. Yes, yeah,

722
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate now they're paying Anger. Anger is better big money.

723
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: At least he had a better year last year. But

724
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: if you look at his contract, it's it's basically a

725
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: one year deal and the guarantees are like maybe four million.

726
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: They can get out of it for less than one hundred,

727
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean less than a million after one year. But

728
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: it's a three year, nine nine million dollars. So he

729
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: was with the Cowboys in camp and then he suffered

730
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: the back injury and was placed on IR for the

731
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Speaker 1: entire season, and then had the best season of his career. Right, So,

732
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Speaker 1: are we're going to let him stay in? Kick angers? Hunter? No? No? Hunter?

733
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Nice wanders out? Yeah, all right, So what are you

734
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: thinking about kicker? Then? Kicker is a need so first round.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when Stephen Jones was asked,

736
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: he's the best athlete, best athlete available. That ain't gonna

737
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: happen with the best athlete available, right, Hey man, he

738
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: may be a rugby type guy he could even play.

739
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: It was the guy they drafted that year. Uh was

740
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: it a seventh rone pick or he had played special

741
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: teams back in the two thousands. What's his name, David Bieler?

742
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Was it Beeler the athlete? Yeah, it was Beeler. Yeah, yeah,

743
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: because because they said, oh he's draft and he could

744
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: also play special teams for us, and he had his

745
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: home John Phillips the tied end were the only thing

746
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: they got out of those picks that you talk about

747
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: a dirty dozen, that was a dirty dozen draft picks. So, kicker,

748
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: all they got right now is uh nigger? Is that

749
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: how he's saying? The guy he kicked at SMU one

750
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: year he was a punter and then he ended up

751
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: kicking uh and and so. But other than that, I

752
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: mean they got to go and find a veteran kicker

753
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: to come in and at least compete with him. And

754
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: you're going, I'm going with Chris nagar in a gg R.

755
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know how to pronounce okay and and

756
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: that's all they had to care for that name. Yeah,

757
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: I know That's why I hesitated. Um. I didn't want

758
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: to get myself in trouble right and have to apologize. Um,

759
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: but if you look at veteran and Stephen said, they

760
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: asked him the question at the owners meeting, what do

761
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: you need to do to shore up your roster so

762
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Speaker 1: you don't have to reach in the draft. And the

763
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: first thing he said was, well, we need a kicker,

764
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: meaning a veteran kicker. Well, I looked at the available

765
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: veteran kickers out there, and stop me when one of

766
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: the names stop you, Michael Badgeley, Sam Thicking, Matt Amondola,

767
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: any of that gets you excited. And I asked somebody

768
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: about those guys and they said, yeah, there are those

769
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: guys that you know what, Yeah, every week and every

770
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: year it's like a one year deal and then they

771
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: move on and you got to find somebody else. Uh.

772
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Badgeley probably was the best of the group. Uh. He

773
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: was a free agent kicker from Miami. UH. He ended

774
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: up in his career making seventy of eighty seven UH

775
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: field goals, so he did a pretty good job. The

776
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: other guys were, you know, just guys. Matt Amondola was

777
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State. He kicked eleven games for the Jets. UH.

778
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: And then the Jets signed Zerline this year, so um,

779
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty uh slim group. Uh. And then

780
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: when I looked at the guys that were listed as

781
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: some of the top guys kickers in the draft, Cameron

782
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: Dicker from Texas, Dicker the kicker, Dicker the kicker, they

783
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: just stood. Cowboys just waved Hunter the punter, and so

784
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: now they can go draft Dicker the kiss. Last year

785
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: he was thirteen of fifteen. He made twelve of thirteen

786
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: from twenty to fifty. So to me, that's your money kicks, right,

787
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Whatever you make fifty plus is great, but you got

788
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: to make the ones from twenty to fifty. And then

789
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: at LSU, Cade York, who's from Prosper. Prosper right up

790
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: the toll, so they should know all about him. His

791
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: last two years at LSU, he kicked all four last

792
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: two years, he was thirty three of thirty nine and

793
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: he made five of seven fifty plush with a long

794
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: of fifty six. Nice. So you know you're gonna mention

795
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: the other guy, Gay Gabe B. Listen to what you said,

796
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: Gabe B. Listen right, listening, listening still, I'm double. You

797
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Speaker 1: know where is he from? Oklahoma? He's from Oklahoma. Everson. Oh, yeah,

798
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: come on that he's here. Let's go. He was twenty

799
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Speaker 1: of twenty six the last two years, so he improved

800
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: as he went along, fifty seven of sixty nine for

801
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Speaker 1: his career. When you go back to lsu Kde York,

802
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: this guy's kicking off of grass at home. Natural grass. Yeah,

803
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. So it's the Norman guy who Burketoh

804
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: was he was? He kicking at what the school is? Oh?

805
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: You didn't listen to Oklahoma? Did not like? No, he's

806
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: not kicking off of grass. They have grass? Uh huh,

807
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: yeahn't know that. I thought that was turf. So which

808
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: one do you like? He probably kicked off turf at

809
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: prosper who had. I tell you what, when you go

810
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, the wind is blowing there, sweeping down the plane,

811
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: so you don't get that. In bad roods, you had nothing.

812
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: We bragged about the four or fifth round picks. Would

813
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: you use a fifth? Well, Dane Brugler has Cade York

814
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: his number one rated kicker, and he has a grade

815
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: of a fifth or sixth round pick on him. He

816
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: Gabe Burkitch is his number two, sixth or seventh round

817
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: grade and Cameron dicker, the kicker, seventh round grade out

818
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: of Texas. If you're kicking, I gotta say, if you

819
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: if you use all of those everything being equal, then

820
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: you start looking at you know, the weather, the field

821
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: and all of that. It's tough kicking in Oklahoma. I

822
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: wonder where that wind is blowing all. So you're gonna

823
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: have to help me with this. The kicker. It was

824
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: the rookie from Cincinnati. Um, yeah, I was fifth round pick.

825
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Fifth is that what he was? Okay? And he was

826
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: awfully good, Yes he was, he was. He was. He

827
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: was stella. So to me, to me, when we hit

828
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: training camp, you're McPherson, you're gonna have Nagar, you're gonna

829
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: have a veteran guy you signed on a one year deal,

830
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a fifth round pick. And let's compete.

831
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: And we'll be sitting there watching practices underneath the gold posts,

832
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: looking at every kickoff or kick competition they have. They

833
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: usually give them all six and everybody's gonna get six

834
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: and how many can make. But that's what's gonna happen.

835
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: I like the Oklahoma guy, I really do, simply just

836
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the conditions themselves, potential conditions Klanna sways me a little

837
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: bit until its sales in his favor. Plus, they scored

838
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: a lot of points in his career there, and so

839
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of experience kicking, does he does?

840
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: He have a lot of how far LSU the Kade

841
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: York he was with Joe Joe Burrows team and they

842
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: scored a whole munch and most of those came against Oklahoma.

843
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: And and I think he was I think he was

844
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: nearly perfect on his extra points. Well, ah, that's a

845
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: big thing. And you also got to look at kickoff Yeah,

846
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: but they're extra points are not No, no, you better

847
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: be nearly perfect. Yeah. Uh. And then you got to

848
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: look at kickoffs too, you know, can you get the

849
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: ball in the end. I'm waiting on Build to come

850
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: with some information. He's strolling over here. I'm just looking

851
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: up I thought you were gonna be. I was on

852
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: the Sooner website looking up Gabe Burkitch. I wanted to

853
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: see how many how many kicks does he have versus

854
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: the guy down of the LSU. Yeah it was I

855
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: thought Mickey gave that to us. I didn't pass him.

856
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: I didn't give you a birr No. No, he was

857
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: fifty seven of sixty nine, right now, burkitch In two,

858
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, was seventeen for seventeen on field goals.

859
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: That's when I liked him. He was twenty of twenty

860
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: six in twenty twenty, and he was twenty of twenty

861
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: six and twenty one and he missed an extra point

862
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: one extra point in his career one hundred and fifty

863
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: nine out of one hundred and sixty. All right, so

864
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: there's possibility. Do you have a point after touchdowns for York?

865
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: And I didn't write them? Okay, sorry, all right? PTS

866
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: not impressed. Still, well, it doesn't matter because the college

867
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: extra point is not and you looking up what is

868
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: what's he kicking from thirty to thirty five? What are

869
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: they doing from thirty to thirty five? Right, that's what

870
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: you want to see. That's the stat because that's going

871
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: to be there. And that's when I wrote down on Dickery,

872
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: he was twelve or thirteen between twenty and forty nine

873
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: point right. And the thing you liked about York he

874
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: was five of seven from fifty plus. So he's got

875
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: the late, he's got the lake. And if you can

876
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: do that, then your kickoffs are probably pretty good too,

877
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: all right, but it's a need looking ahead next Thursday.

878
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, I need a bill out early now,

879
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: y'all you want you two want to take it to

880
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: the take it go. I have to go do a

881
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: zoom with Dane Brugler, which you'll be able to see

882
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: the contents of that zoom on CBS eleven on Sunday night,

883
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: and let him know that we gave him shot. Like

884
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: he didn't get enough pub on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

885
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: He got a mix shot um. All right. So next week, though,

886
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: there will be a week out from the draft, and

887
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I assume on draft Day we won't have a show

888
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: in the morning on Draft Day or I don't know.

889
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm just can you do it? I can do it.

890
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: I can do it, Okay, all right, I don't give

891
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: it the powers that be. Well, we have to have

892
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: Chris if he can do it, that's right. He's gonna

893
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: be working untill in the morning, all right. So y'all

894
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: keep going, and I'm gonna give my stuff and I've

895
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: got to set up from my zoom, all right. Keep

896
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: talking about we're gonna have to make We're gonna have

897
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: make rent right here, and then we'll just rant on

898
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: our have Everson talked about it all his homework over there.

899
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: Still got still got stuff for you, baby. I want

900
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: to know what Philly's doing. You know what they're gonna

901
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: do with Jalen Hurts. We're gonna command is gonna do

902
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: We gonna play them, well, command is gonna do with

903
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: with Uh WinCE, They're gonna play them w I E

904
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: n C w C you WinCE when you watch? All right, So,

905
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: since I've got a list here, Um, this was the

906
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: list from Bucky Brooks as the top wide receivers in

907
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: the draft. Okay, Uh, First, he had Drake London from

908
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Southern cal Second, and I was a little bit surprised

909
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: by this one. Uh Jameson will Williams from Alabama who's

910
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: coming off a torn acl Yeah, championship him. I do too.

911
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: But would you take him with a first round pick? Yes?

912
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: That high? If he's there at twenty four, you might

913
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: be able to qualify it, right because he's probably not

914
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: ready to play, is he? You're gonna pay Michael Gallipo

915
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: guys not ready to play? You want both of them

916
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: not ready to play. It's the potential. He's young, guys,

917
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: he caught up in September of twenty twenty two. You

918
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: need to think about the next five years, right, man,

919
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: there's a stud that's why they were going out, that

920
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: he was killing it before you got hurt. All right.

921
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any complaints that the Cowboys

922
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: always take somebody that's hurt. And now Jay because he's available, Okay,

923
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: he had him second. Garrett Wilson of Ohio State was third.

924
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: Um uh, Jake Jason Dotson Okay, Penn State, Penn State. Yes,

925
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: Chris Olive, Ohio State. And then after that they had

926
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: trailing Burks from what they thought maybe or maybe not. Yeah,

927
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: they had Burke's next, and then John Metchi from Alabama.

928
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: He heard it. He hurt himself too. Metchi got hurt, yes,

929
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: he did. Matchi got hit u and then George Pickens

930
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: of Georgia. So those were his top. So I don't

931
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: know if all those guys are first round. I think

932
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: the first five I gave you were figured to be

933
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: first round. Then the other guys you might be able

934
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: to get late in the first round or at some

935
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: point in the second round. And at that point when

936
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at wide receivers, it all depends on the

937
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: system that you go to, right and the type. Yeah,

938
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: because yes, they all fit different things. Right, you got

939
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: was a bigger receiver. I don't know if he's got

940
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of speed, but you know he's more athletic

941
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: receiver out there. And you know there's certain teams like

942
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: the Titans, right, they love athletic wide receivers. I mean,

943
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: you look at the ninetis athletic wide receivers. So if

944
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: I look at Gill's top one hundred, Garrett Wilson, he

945
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: had him ranked the f eighth best player in the draft.

946
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: Drake London was ranked thirteenth, fourteenth right behind him Trey

947
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Lion Burkes, the kid from Arkansas. So this shows you

948
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: how there's different you know, everybody looks at guys differently.

949
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: That's like if you look at Lockett, you know for Seattle, right,

950
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gone and played under with Russell Wilson.

951
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Would he be as dynamic with anyone else with any

952
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: other system? Not necessarily what he can't thrive in the

953
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: particular system, but would it showcase his talents the way

954
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: that Seattle's office did. Gill had Jameson Williams ranked twenty

955
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: seventh and right behind him at twenty eight was Chris Olave.

956
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: So that's kind of in the Cowboys draft wheelhouse when

957
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: they're at twenty fourth. Now he you know he wrote

958
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: he recently, uh meaning Williams said he's ahead of schedule. Well,

959
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: all those guys that suffered acls and or a head

960
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: of schedule, that's right, that's all they're They're not going

961
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: to say anything different. Their babies though, they can so

962
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: much quicker and then they'll come back strong as if

963
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. Let's see, and like I said, you

964
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: want to know Dame Brugos ranking, I have it, okay,

965
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: and I'll just get one more at thirty eight. Uh

966
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: gilhead Johan Dotson. Uh there that far down? Yeah? So

967
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: um on the athletic it goes uh Wilson, Williams, London, Lave,

968
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: and Burkes as first rounders and Johan Dotson as a

969
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: first second rounder. So he has six basically, you know

970
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: what somebody like a Dotson. He comes from a Big

971
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: ten team. They throw the ball that much, right, you know,

972
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: you can see him escaping from that system and just

973
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: thriving in a whole other system that's going to showcase

974
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: his talent, And it's almost like, what flavor do you

975
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: need because do you need an ex guy? Do you

976
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: need a slot guy? Do you need a guy that

977
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: can play all three? Do you need one like a

978
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: Debo that can play in the backfield? Right, someone that

979
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: can carry the ball the ball CD lamb this year

980
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: and we've done in the past. So you want as

981
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver now you can do so many things

982
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: to impact the team other than just sitting out wide

983
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: and catching flies, catching nines. And I think, if I

984
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: remember correctly, Berks, I think they handed him the ball,

985
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe because it says with the next closest player. I

986
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: don't know. That was just they're just talking about he

987
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: ran for one touchdown, so uh yeah, if you can

988
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: find you can see that in him. Yeah, because he's

989
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: got that kind of build and he's that fits and

990
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: he's got some speed. Yes he does also, which um

991
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: we could always use you can, right, you know. I

992
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: mean Pollard showed how valuable he can be as a

993
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: kickoff return guys. Uh And if you're gonna start giving

994
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: him more carries, which I don't know will actually happen,

995
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: then you may not want him returning kickoffs. They put

996
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: a young guy back there. When you look at guys

997
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: like like Deebo, when you look at guys like Brown

998
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: from the tightness, you know, these are the guys that

999
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: if you can get those kinds, that's the ones you want.

1000
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: They may not be as fluid as wide receiver, but

1001
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: they're good enough to go down. They make plays on

1002
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: the ball wherever it's thrown, and they can carry the

1003
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: ball as well. They can run after catch right after kid.

1004
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: And I would imagine that would haunt a cornerback. Yes,

1005
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: it does, because if you don't make that tackle it away,

1006
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: you might be in trouble. The battle is not done

1007
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: just because they caught the ball. No, right, it has

1008
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: just begun. All right, Well, we were able to do

1009
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: our deal with Bill here for the last five minutes,

1010
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: and for Bill, for Everson Walls, I'm Mickey Spagnola and

1011
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: that was mick shots for this week. Chris Beam, thanks

1012
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: a lot for your help, and we'll be back next

1013
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: Thursday on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Go Cowboys. This has

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