1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: What is up everybody? John Middlecock Three and Out podcast, 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Back at it again. I appreciate everyone here listening. It's 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: a Thursday kind of late night. Actually, I got the 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Laker game and the baseball game on in the background. 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: As someone who loves sports, not gonna lie, it doesn't suck. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back in any way possible, no fans, whatever, 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just grateful to see you on. Also may have 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: a little cash on Brooks KPKA he crushed today. Also 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: may have him in some daily fantasy lineups. Feeling good. 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good football. I think it is officially kind 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: of back and rolling, at least for a couple of teams. 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Rookies are now in. Uh. We're starting to see some 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: videos come out on social media with players around. I 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: saw Andy Reid and the kncie chiefs uh because they 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: reported early, remember because they're kicking off on Thursday night, 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: saying with the Texans, their whole team kind of came 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: together today. We got a lot going on, a lot 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: of these opt outs, specifically hitting New England. Have some 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: thoughts on Belichick and you know kind of the big 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: question marks that surrounds that Joey Bosa got paid earlier 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: this week an astronomical amount of money. And I think 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: there was a long time narrative about guys in the NFL, 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: non quarterbacks, you know, not making as much as the 24 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: other big sports, the elite guys. Now I think have 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: kind of kind of shut that up and put that 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: to bed. Then I'll just dive around the league some 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: stories on just the top one hundred, the quarterback tier 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: article from Mike Sando, which I love, uh, some other signing, 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: some hold outs, just you know, your typical NFL drama. 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: And also college football. I guess we've talked a lot 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: about it. Won't spend too much time. They're all going 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: to conference only. We'll get into that probably in the 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. And then of course the Middlecoff 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff my Instagram fly in the 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: d m s. We answer your questions here. It's the 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: People Show, it's your show, and it's how you get 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: on It's how you get on a podcast. We don't 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: do phone calls, but we do answer Instagram questions. You know, 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: it's been it's been hard to be like you know, 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty tell us to a guy that 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: hosts a radio show in two thousand five, I'm gonna 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: have way more listeners than you, and it's gonna be 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: like this recorded thing that they can listen to on 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: their phone. And I'm not gonna have anyone call in, 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: but I can interact with my people through my phone. 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: They all kind of d M me, kind of like 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: a text message. It would be hard for these radio 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: hosts of like fifteen years to wrap their head around 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: what we're doing here. But good thing we are, and 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's rolling along and I appreciate everyone listening 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: with Uh. I can't say it enough. So if you 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: like the podcast, go to three and out on Apple 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: and iTunes, leave a little review, a little five star 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: if you want leave a review, subscribe to the pod, 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and uh we'll go from there. But let's start with 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, who I think had six players 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: opt out over the last four or five days, and 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and I know, for me personally, and I 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: think I would imagine most people listening, Corona sucks. It 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: has been awful, but I've tried to be positive during 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: this time. And it's just as you grow and mature, 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, you read a couple. You know, inspirational books 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: is about the right mindset and it does help you know. 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: For as much as people make fun of, like, you know, 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: powerful inspirational self help type books, there are things that 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: you can pick up to just help you outlive your 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: everyday life and not be a miserable s O. B. 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: And I found during Corona to be inspiring in terms 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: of my business and having to pivot and think big 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: picture and we were doing something, might have to do 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: something else. Think about the way we were doing this 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: not enough video L We're doing a video. You can 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: find it on YouTube right now. We post videos of 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: this podcast. And I think, in general, and I think 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: most people agree, during the tough times you find out 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the most about yourself. And in the toughest times, I 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: will usually bet on the most talented people. It's why 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: this season, which is gonna be very very weird. Uh, 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: football is not built the socially distanced or be Corona proof. 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: That is, the football is the complete opposite. You touch 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: everybody all the time, you're all together in small quarters. 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: You literally five guys touch the other four every single play. 83 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: The ball touches multiple people play. If you're listening to 84 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: this podcast. You understand that, But I think the smartest 85 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: and best coaches, which we all know, the Andy Reid's, 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: the Sean Payton's, the Kyle Shanahan's, the Pete Carroll's, are 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna have the best opportunity to win this fall. Now, Belichick, 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: historically the last twenty years, I would have easily put 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: in that sentence, and I still tech sically do though 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: his team is dramatically worse. So he had his right 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: tackle opt out, he had one of his best front 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: seven guys in high tower opt out. He had a 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: running back opt out, he had a starting strong safety 94 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: opt out. Some guys opt out. It's had Tom Brady leave. 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: But I think he has an opportunity this year one. 96 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: He's the most adaptive coach in league history. He knows 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: every single position. He could be a position coach at 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: every single position. He understands every play call, whether's offensive, 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: defense or special teams. And he is just one of 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: the most innovative coaches we've ever seen. So if you 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: give me a guy that is given him in the 102 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic, he had a bunch of guys leave. 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: He has He's breaking in a brand new starting quarterback 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: whether it's Cam Newton, which would be the polar opposite 105 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: of the quarterback that he just had who was the 106 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time in Tom Brady, or whether 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: it's George Sidim or Brian Hoyer. It's not gonna be 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: an ideal situation. But I think this because Tom Brady, 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: he's forty three years old. Whether it goes well or 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: not in Tampa, like his legacy is set six super Bowls. 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: He's widely considered the greatest quarterback of all time. It 112 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: can't really be disputed at this time. But I think 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: just with coaches, we argue back and forth, was it Brady? 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Was it Belichick? Bottom line, I think most people agree Belichick, 115 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, is one of the greatest coaches of all time. 116 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: But what if this year with six players opting out 117 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: his starting quarterback for the last twenty years leaving, he's 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: able to win nine or ten games. The more and 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: more I think about Bill Belichick, who is again equipped 120 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: for the shittiest time to do the best. We've seen 121 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: him get hit with curveballs, some self inflicted like spy Gate. 122 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: They went eighteen and one kicked everyone's ass. We saw 123 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: him deal with the flight gate, which, depending on who 124 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: you believe, he had nothing to do with it. Whatever 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: started kicking everyone's ass again. He deals with it all 126 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: the time. Brady gets suspended, wins with Jimmy, wins with Jako, 127 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. This to me might be his toughest test, right, 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: he has a nuch. You guys on the team most 129 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: people have never heard of unless you're like a die 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: hard college football fan. Because they're gonna be playing a 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: lot of young guys, you know, his best most experienced 132 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: offensive guys like Julian Edelman. Uh, Cam coming off multiple injuries, 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: or Jared Stidham is going to be a starting quarterback. 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Why couldn't he make the playoffs? Though? I've thought all 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: along that they are gonna be in the playoff mix, 136 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: and I said, once they get Cam, if he's healthy, 137 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: they should be a playoff team. Uh, look at their 138 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: division beside the Bills. Who do you think is gonna 139 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: be any good? The Dolphins won three of their last 140 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: five games to become a four win team. Their quarterback, 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: which Colin has been talking about a show or on 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: a show, who the head coach, Brian Flores said should 143 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: be ready to go? Was walking with a limp when 144 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: he entered the facility. The New York Jets, who you know, 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: I like, Sam Donald still has a lot to prove 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: a coach. That's there's some turnamoil. Now, granted they went 147 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: seven and nine, they just traded their best player on 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: their team for you know, draft picks that don't don't 149 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: help right now. Now, granted they did get a safety 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: back in McDougald, but still like to think that the 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Jets are gonna be better than the no name Patriots. 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I can't go that far, but what if Belichick kicks 153 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: everyone's but this year and goes wins nine or ten games? 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Would that solidify the argument with him in Brady because 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Brady is already the best quarterback ever? Could we start 156 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: talking about Belichick being because in my opinion, he already is. 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: But I understand the argument people that argue other sports. Whatever, 158 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: what if Belichick were to make the playoffs and like 159 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: win a playoff game with this roster, with these guys, 160 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: because there was one thing was he still returned all 161 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: these guys his right tackle, you know, high Tower Chung 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: like his guys along with Slater and the mccordy and Edelman. Well, 163 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: now you're removing like half those guys. I actually think 164 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: Belichick has a lot on the line, a lot to 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: gain this year. And I thought that from the jump, 166 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: but I think after this week with all these guys like, nah, 167 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm it and listen, I can't pretend to know you 168 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: read some of the stories. These guys have six children. Uh, 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: their grandparents were sick. Cannon has been sick before. I 170 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: haven't read anything specific on high Tower, but this notion that, oh, 171 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: it sucks to play for Belichick, that's why they wanted out. 172 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: I call bullshit. When you play for Belichick, you win, 173 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: meaning you make more money in life, like everywhere high 174 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Tower goes the rest of his life in New England. Hey, Dot, 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: let's welcome Dante high Tower. Three times super Bowl champ, 176 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: three time Super Bowl champ. Right, not let's just welcome, 177 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: let's welcome J. J. Watt, the Texans greatest player. Like 178 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: that's cool. But when you get introduced as three time 179 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: super Bowl champ, that's what All those guys in New 180 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: England that have played for this team over the last 181 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: seven or eight years are known for champions and which 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: championships come cash. That's just that's why you want to win. 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Because not maybe even just short term cash, long term 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: you make money forever. I know I live in the 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Bay Area. Ronnie Lott, Brent Jones, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice. 186 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: It's not just them. These guys are all over the place. 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Ricky Waters, Bryant Young, these guys are staples in this 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: community and on radio, and you can hear them around. 189 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Once you become a champion, you're just known as that 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: around the team. Whether you are Jerry Rice or whether 191 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: you're Ricky Waters, you're part of the squad. And you 192 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: have a ring on your finger. And in the New 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: England's case three and I'm telling you, I think naturally 194 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: people just are kind of thinking New England's gonna suck. 195 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: And in times of turmoil, the toughest times, the smartest 196 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: guys usually rise. And I think counting Belichick out in 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: this situation would be pretty foolish. Okay. I saw something 198 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: this week, as I'm sure many of you did. Joey 199 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Bosa became the highest paid defensive lineman in league history, 200 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and two million in dollars. And there was 201 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: a time. It was the year Kevin Durant signed with 202 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: the Warriors. They had a historic cap spike in the NBA, 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and it was the only reason the Warriors were able 204 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: to fit Kevin Durant under the their salary cap. And 205 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: part of it was Steph Curry was on a team 206 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: friendly deal and Draymond had taken a tiny bit less 207 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: and it was a unique situation, but there was a 208 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: bigger picture thing in the league where there was all 209 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: this cap space, and looking back, it was something that 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: wasn't good for the NBA. It should have been over 211 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: a gradual period of time, but the union, the NBA 212 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Union was very shortsighted and pushed it, and there was 213 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: a summer where just random dudes were getting like seventy 214 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed and forever in the NBA. Superstars like 215 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, get an astronomical amount of money. 216 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: But it became, i'd say the last like twenty years, 217 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: maybe ten, that like the second and third type guys, 218 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: and now the second and third guy on an NBA 219 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: team if you're really good, it's like Clay Thompson and 220 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: he's worth huge money, or you know, you just go 221 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, like you need two or three elite guys 222 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: in the NBA to win now, But I think the 223 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: NFL complained for a long period time. It was like 224 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback and then everyone was fighting for the rest. Now, granted, 225 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: it's still a lot of money, and it's pro sports, 226 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: and these guys are making a ton of cash, but 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: relative and baseball, and I got a baseball game on 228 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: in the background right now. I got Manny Machado on. 229 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: He's making three million. The Giants got like three guys 230 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: that aren't even any good that are making eight plus million, 231 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: and it just felt like the NFL guys are kind 232 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: of getting screwed. Part of it is the NFL a 233 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: ton of injury risk. It's understandable, and having been in 234 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: the front office, I get it, like you don't want 235 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: to tie yourself to non quarterbacks for too long. But 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: the simple fact is those days are over. The elite 237 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: players in the NFL get huge cash now. I'm talking 238 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: massive cash now. There was a period in like the 239 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: two thousand's, like when Sam Bradford's and Matt Stafford's and 240 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: the Nick dominicansou and we go through the list, I 241 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: mean all the guys those last couple of years in 242 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: like O eight oh nine that were top five picks 243 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: that got huge money and it threw the league out 244 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: of whack. You know, Stafford's has been fine, but Bradford 245 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: was a good example, and people complained, well, now they 246 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: don't make anywhere near that much money, but they still 247 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: make huge cash. Like this year Joe Burrow signed I 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: think I saw on the ticker this week thirty five 249 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: million dollars. Kyler was well over thirty. So when you 250 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: look at guys like Joey Bosa, Joey Bosa was a 251 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: third pick in the draft in two thousand sixteen. He 252 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: signed a contract. I didn't even need to google it. 253 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: It was probably seven million dollars fully guaranteed. When a 254 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: when a first round rookie signs his contract, those first 255 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: four years are fully guaranteed, and then if you're just 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: pretty good, you're getting the fifth year option picked up. 257 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: But there was a period of time where it was 258 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: like guys had to kind of play for cheap and 259 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: guys were always fighting for money. When you're a top guy. 260 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Now you get broken off and just look at his class, 261 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: his class, like the top seven draft picks in his 262 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: class are gonna go down. It's probably the most highly 263 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: compensated top seven in league history. Jared Goff, Carson Wentz 264 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: made huge money. And again these guys, I'm talking NBA money, 265 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: because if you signed for a hundred and twenty million, 266 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: if you're Joey Bosa, if you're Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, 267 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: as long as you keep playing, you're actually gonna make 268 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: whatever the actual number is, whether it's one seventy two, 269 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, the fluff number that we always look at 270 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: and we go, what's the guaranteed number, and you go, 271 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: if it's clear mcninety, Miles Garrett one hundred, Joey one 272 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: oh two. Well, the thing where it's not fluff. If 273 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: that guy stays good, he keeps catching those checks. With 274 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: three or four years, he actually ends up making probably 275 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: one and then he already made thirty those first three 276 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: or four years, so he ends up with boom. He's 277 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: eight years into the league and he's got two hundo 278 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: in the bank. But the reality is is that draft 279 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: class two thousand and sixteen is just stupid good. You know, 280 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Jared Goff kind of probably gets unfairly criticized sometimes his 281 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: offensive line was terrible. He is a solid quarterback. Now 282 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: he's he a great player. No Is Carson Wentz clearly 283 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: more talented. Yes, has Jared Goff probably been more productive, 284 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: but Carson more talented and had more moments. Kind of 285 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: complicated reality is both of them just making an astronomical 286 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: amount of money in their direct deposits every Tuesday when 287 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the NFL pays him. Joey Bosa, the third pick in 288 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: the draft, which I thought at the time was a 289 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: little crazy, turned out to be the right pick. Good job, 290 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Tom to Let's go zeke. Highest paid running back Jalen 291 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Ramsey while he's on his fifth year option. If he 292 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: makes it the free agency, the Rams are either gonna 293 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: have to give him seventy to eighty guaranteed or some 294 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: team is gonna make him. I don't know. Maybe he 295 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: might get as much as Joey Bosa. He would get 296 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: so much money it would be stupid. Ronnie Stanley is 297 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: playing this year on his fifth year option. I'll be honest. 298 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I didn't I got a text around the league. I 299 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: don't know that much about him. He starts on the Ravens. 300 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: They haven't extended him yet. I feel like early on 301 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: his career a little bit of underachiever. But if you're 302 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: playing for the Ravens, like you know, you must be 303 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: pretty solid. I mean, they're one of the best teams 304 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: in the league and DeForrest Bucker was just traded for 305 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: the thirteenth pick and is making twenty one million dollars 306 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,119 Speaker 1: a year. So this group has done pretty well financially. 307 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: But they also proved obviously the quarterbacks are always gonna 308 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: make big money if you're good at hell, if you're 309 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: just decent quarterback, you're gonna get broken off, whether it's 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: fair or not. And I think the players in the 311 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: league jealousy is probably the wrong word. I mean, it's 312 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: just natural jealousy when someone gets paid more than you, 313 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: even though you think you're a better football player than him. 314 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: Though even if you're a guard or a linebacker, you 315 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge their positions that more important. But I 316 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: would imagine if you're in with a guy like Kirk Cousins, 317 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: you're like, and I'm adam feeling. I just go, I'm 318 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: a dramatically better player in this guy. I know he 319 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: plays quarterback and I play wide receiver, but we're still humans. 320 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: This guy is making thirty million dollars a year. I'm 321 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: making twelve. Is what you know, It doesn't, but it's 322 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: just the way the cookie crumbles. But the reality is 323 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: now when you are an elite player at safety, at tackle, 324 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: at defensive line, at wherever, Jamal Adams another guy who's 325 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of money from the Seattle Seahawks 326 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: in the next I'd say calendar year, you start getting 327 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: paid like an NBA player. And it's taken a while, 328 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of heat, like the money 329 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: doesn't get distributed, will starting to get distributed at a 330 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: math the cash is flowing and I'm talking big time 331 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: because you're even starting to see like the second tier 332 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: guys like is a Marii Cooper start like Mark Cooper 333 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: is a really good player. You got a hundred million 334 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: dollars this offseason and sixty guaranteed. But Amari was the 335 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft, so he had already made million. 336 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: So at worst case scenario, he never plays football again 337 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: a day in his life. Starting tomorrow, He's got eighty five. 338 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: You know that's we're talking. He's six years in the league. 339 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Five years in the league. This NBA money, the NBA 340 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball money has made its way to the NFL. 341 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: It's taken a while. Uh, it's a little more complicated 342 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: more players and obviously the injury risk. But I don't 343 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: ever want to hear that anymore, you know, because if 344 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: you're an elite player in the NFL, you're getting paid. Now, Okay, 345 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: let's hit on some NFL stories and I'll start with 346 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: one that's been going on I think for the last 347 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: two weeks. But this week they basically did the last 348 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: like fifty players. I can't even pretend to care that 349 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: much about the NFL. I think overall it encapsulates the 350 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: majority of the best players. I don't put that much 351 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: stock into what players say on other players because on 352 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: given years, they don't play that player. A lot of stuff, 353 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: just like in life, is on perception and on just 354 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of the group think in a league, in an industry, 355 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: we all can relate. Right In whatever business you're in, 356 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: there are certain perceptions about certain individual certain companies that 357 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: if you've worked there or worked around the guy, you 358 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: just know are not true. I think, for the most part, 359 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: the top ten had ten of the better players. Now 360 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry I wouldn't put in the top ten. I 361 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think there's a coach in the league, including Baltimore, 362 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: that would take Lamar Jackson over Patrick Mahomes. So Patrick 363 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: Mahomes not being ahead of them. Listen, it is what 364 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: it is. I I also understand it from the player's perspective. 365 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Talked a lot about it on my other podcast, like 366 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: I get it players. Lamar was fantastic. This was a 367 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: regular season vote. They didn't vote on the player, you know, 368 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes a better player than we. We 369 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: all know that. Every single person listening knows that, including 370 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens fans. Uh yeah, So, I mean, I I 371 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: don't really know what else to say. I don't I 372 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: don't really care. I know I had to mention it 373 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: just because it was just kind of an internet story 374 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: all week. The thing that I do put a lot 375 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: of stock in, and he does it every year is 376 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback tears. Mike Sando, who works for the Athletic 377 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: ranks all the starting quarterbacks. He also includes some backups 378 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: for some teams like the Raiders, the the Panthers, and 379 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: uh who's other and the Patriots who have multiple quarterbacks 380 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: who you know, I know Teddy Bridge was gonna start, 381 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: excuse me, Kyle Allen who's now with the Redskins. Maybe 382 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: it was the Redskins, but teams that have multiple quarterbacks, 383 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: We're not sure. You know Stidham cam now that Mariotte 384 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: is the highest paid backup, But for the most part, 385 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: it's just starting quarterbacks, and it's people in the league, coaches, executives. 386 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: It gives you what the league thinks about these players, 387 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: which you can hear what I think about it, you 388 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: can hear what your friends think about it, you can 389 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: hear what other media members think about it. The thing 390 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: that determines how they get paid, what's they're worth. Uh, 391 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade for him, what the compensation costs 392 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: is what the league thinks. That is the marketplace. So 393 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a fantastic exercise. And of course Patrick 394 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: mahomes number one, where he should be. And hell, Lamar 395 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: wasn't even a top tier player, and let's start with that. 396 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna list some things, and I'm not gonna 397 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: do a full breakdown of every player, but just some 398 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: things that stood out to me. Lamar was the first 399 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: player in Tier two. Maybe it was the second after Brady, 400 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: but I I think a big element to Lamar inside 401 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: the league. And I heard Mike Sando say this on 402 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Rasilla's podcast. If you just ask people in the league, 403 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: they would say he is an elite football player, because 404 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is an elite football player right now, though 405 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: he's not an elite passer. And in big games, what 406 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get judged off of. He can't be trusted to 407 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: beat you on you know, third and long, And part 408 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: of it's not all his fault. It's the way the 409 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: offense is built around him for strengths. He doesn't have 410 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: to do it during the regular season, it's understandable. But 411 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: for him ever to be viewed as a Russell Wilson, 412 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna have to kick, You're asked with 413 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: his arm in big games against top defenses, and right now, 414 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: most people in the league don't think he can. But 415 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: he's such a great runner, and he's still a dynamic 416 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: passer because when you're running the ball down your throat, 417 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: you gotta commit to the run. Guys become wide open 418 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: and it's you can dominate. But he's got to take 419 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: a big step passing and I'm I'm fascinated to watch 420 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: him attempt to do it. They put Rivers and Bet 421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: on this list. Rivers was way too high to me, 422 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Rivers last season. Now, his body of work. I mean, 423 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: he's there's probably five quarterbacks on this list that are 424 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: better than him over his entire career, right like Brady Brees, 425 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: Rogers I take my homes, and like Russell Wilson. But 426 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: when you talk about Rivers right now, he was horrendous 427 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: last year. Awful, looked old, couldn't move through a bunch 428 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: of picks. It was terrible to me. He was a 429 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: bottom like seven eight quarterback in the NFL and they 430 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: had him as a top fifteen quarterback. Now he may 431 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: bounce back this year. Better offensive line, more faith in 432 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: the coach, more faith in the organization. I don't know. 433 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: But last time I check Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Hunter, Henry. 434 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: He's better than what he's got an indie now. The 435 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: offensive line is dramatically better, but the weapons do matter. 436 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: And he's a guy that kind of throws it up 437 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: for grabs sometimes and those guys he's benefited from that 438 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: over the years. And Ben, I don't know. You know, 439 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: he played two games last year. He's really old. He 440 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: ripped his you know, his elbow. You know, I have 441 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: no clue to me. He's I wouldn't even put him 442 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: on the list. I would have put him on the 443 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: side as just I got no freaking clue, you know, 444 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: does he have anything left? Him? And Rivers basically the 445 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: two biggest wild cards in the league, because if those 446 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: two guys are good, they're on two playoff teams. If 447 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: those two guys are bad, those teams are screwed, especially 448 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: uh Pittsburgh because we saw a duck and Mason stink. 449 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: At least Jacoby is functioning. Jimmy Garoppolo was below Kirk Cousins. Now, 450 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: I understand Jimmy Garoppolo as a polarizing player. I get it. 451 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: He should be. We don't. I think he's better probably 452 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the matter of many people listening. I think he is 453 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: a good thrower of the football. He has a great, 454 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, very very fast release. He's a tough s 455 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: ob in the pocket. He is not scared, but and 456 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: he can scramble around, keep plays alive. He's a playmaker. 457 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: He'll throw a lot of picks, and I'll throw a 458 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of pickable balls. But I know this, If I 459 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: pulled every gentleman during the league, thirty two of them, 460 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if it wasn't thirty to two, 461 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: if not thirty zero people taking Jimmy Garoppolo over Kirk Cousins. Now, 462 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I tweeted this out because we talked about on my 463 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: other podcast. Mike Sandell replied and said, well, they were 464 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: basically in the same kind of group. I just listed it. 465 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: It went like Cousins, golf, Jimmy and my thing is 466 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: what I don't do in two thousand twenty are listen, 467 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. I would say, besides like Rogers, 468 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Farv the best quarterbacks I've ever seen in l Way. 469 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: But I saw Elway when I was young and he 470 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: was kind of old, and pocket quarterbacks has always been 471 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: a thing in the NFL. I do think the way 472 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: the game has changed, with so many great defensive lineman 473 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: coming in, so many average offensive lineman coming in, it's 474 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: it's a huge benefit to quarterbacks. If they're just Patrick Mahomes, 475 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson. You don't need to be Lamar Jackson, 476 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: but you gotta be able to scramble. Kirk Cousins cannot move. 477 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is even a bigger stiff, and I like 478 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and I honestly Kirk Cousins is not bad either. 479 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: These guys are solid starters. Jared both a little overpaid 480 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but like, you can win games with him. 481 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Clearly their team has to be stacked, but you can 482 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: win with them. And that might be the case with 483 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, but I don't know that for sure. I 484 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: know for a fact right now what Kirk Cousins is. 485 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: I still think there's more to learn with Jared Goff, 486 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: but a little like Kirk Cousins, and definitely like all 487 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: the older guys. Jared Goff is a good example. If 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: his offensive line is not good, he can't move, he 489 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: can't get away, like Jimmy does. Bring me that element 490 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: of just functional mobility, And I think you don't need 491 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: to be Kyler, you don't need to be Michael Vick, 492 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: but I do a guy that can just scramble around 493 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: like that's what Aaron Rodgers did forever. And that's why 494 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: I would take Jimmy Garoppolo over Kirk Cousins every day 495 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: of the week, and twice on Sundays. Baker was just 496 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: a couple of spots below Jimmy. I think he was 497 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: like twenty one. I listen to I. I would put 498 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: a major question mark on Baker, and I'm someone that 499 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: loved him coming out. But he has a first time 500 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: head coach. He has a pretty just I mean, anytime 501 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: you got Odell Beckham on your team, it's kind of 502 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: like a powder keg. If he's not getting the ball, 503 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: he could get piste off. Jarvis probably one of his 504 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: most consistent guys coming back from injury. They're adding Austin 505 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Hooper into the mix. They're adding a lot of new 506 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Obviously, their head coach is their play caller. 507 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: Their running backs are good. There is zero excuse, and 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: let me repeat, zero excuse for Cleveland to not be 509 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: really dynamic on offense. They should dominate on offense, and 510 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: it starts with him, because if you have off great 511 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: offensive personnel and you have a good quarterback, you should 512 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: be a five or six offense. Just that simple. The 513 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: Vikings were a fantastic offense last year and their offensive 514 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: line wasn't even that good. But why they had a 515 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: good tight They had multiple tight ends, star running back 516 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: to stud wide receivers. Well, the Browns in theory should 517 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: have a better offensive line than the Vikings had, just 518 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: as good at running backs in chub And and Hunt, 519 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: Jarvis and and O'Dell should be as good as digs 520 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: and feeling and the tight ends. You would argue the 521 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Browns might be better like that should be elite. But 522 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Cousins was salt and can Baker be that good? I 523 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: don't know. He wasn't last year? Now wasn't just Freddie 524 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Kitchens might have been. We're about to find out. The 525 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: other thing in the in the article was I think 526 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Carr was the twenty quarterback on the list and Mariotta 527 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: was like in the late twenties. Now Mariotta was atrocious 528 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: last year and he was injured. And I heard Gruden 529 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: today talking about how he's been going through his rehab 530 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: and he feels like he's caught up on the offense. 531 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Everyone in the league, like with the quotes on da 532 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: Wrek and the quotes on Mariota is they would not 533 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: be shocked that if Mariota start some games this year. 534 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: There is tangible pressure on car They draft Rugs really high, 535 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: uh that that they now have a star tight ended waller, 536 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: a star running back. We think in Josh Jacobs. Their 537 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: offensive line is solid. They drift a couple more wide 538 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: receivers in the third round. Gruden is just a quarterback 539 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: guy that if Derek struggles this year, and his numbers 540 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: were good last year, but if you watched them the 541 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: eye test, the numbers in the eye tests did not 542 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: equal up. He was not a play He was not 543 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: a playmaker last year. He he just wasn't And they're 544 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna need him in that division, which I think is 545 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna be very very good to be a playmaker. And 546 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: if he's not getting it done, and I'm not saying 547 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Mariota is better than him, I would rather have Car. 548 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: But you don't pay the highest paid backup in the 549 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: league that if you, if you feel good about like, 550 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are never gonna have the highest paid backup 551 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: in the league. Neither Wolf, Seattle, Tampa, you know, Uh, 552 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: New England never did. Neither will uh Philadelphia. When you 553 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: have an when you have a highly paid guy, you 554 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: usually depend on him. And in fairness, Grewden didn't pay Derek. 555 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: I you just it's just something to keep an eye on. Now. 556 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: If Derek plays well, it won't be an issue. But 557 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I think the pressure from the jump is gonna be 558 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: on Car to get the job done because Mariode is 559 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna be breathing down his neck. It's clear Tom Brady 560 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: and Tampa had a good They tweeted out some pictures 561 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: of of Tom throwing to rookies. But Tom Brady does 562 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: his best work right with Dion Lewis, with James White, 563 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, with all the guys in the mid two thousand's. 564 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: He likes a little running back to throw two out 565 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: of the backfield. I mean, who doesn't If I played quarterback, 566 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: I'd like a little wheel route guy that if my 567 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: my tight ends and wide receivers aren't open. Tom fisof that. 568 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy is one of the best pass catching backs 569 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: of his generation. Now is he still good? I don't know. 570 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I I have a soft spot for Shady. 571 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: I love Peak Shady, but he might not be that 572 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: good anymore now. I'm would imagine they didn't pay him 573 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: any money. But Tampa Si and Lashawn McCoy kind of 574 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: like that. Uh. There's been some COVID guys you know 575 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: that are on that the COVID list. Uh, the two 576 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: biggest names I've seen. I might have missed something some 577 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: because over the last couple of days the tests have 578 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: been coming back. So the veterans like people. I saw 579 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: people tweeting like whise Tom Brady allowed to practice because 580 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks show up to training camp with the rookies because 581 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: you can't run a practice in a normal year without 582 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, so they always come early. It's like there's 583 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: a reason you're left field, or does not pictures and 584 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: catcher show up first. Quarterbacks and rookie show up first. 585 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: So Tom has been there since last week, so he's 586 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: already gone through the testing protocol period. That's why he's 587 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: able to practice. But I saw Anthony Barr I didn't 588 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: read the details whether he has it or not. Lane 589 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Johnson is also on it, and Lane Johnson tweeted out 590 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: that he does, that he had it, he feels fine, 591 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: that he plans on being back. I think that's a 592 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: common theme. These guys get it. Again, if you just read, 593 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to get political here. Young 594 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: people get it. A lot of them don't feel bad. 595 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Now there are some that do, but in my experience 596 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: of the people I know in their mid thirties, and 597 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: these aren't professional athletes, feel fine. And obviously some people 598 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: are a symptomatic, but these pro football players these pro 599 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: basketball players get it and nothing really happens. So I 600 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: mean that's a good thing. I mean, thank thank god. 601 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: You know, those things not even worse. And I'm not 602 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: trying to diminish Corona or any of that stuff. Just 603 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: got I just wanted to go away, but it doesn't 604 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's going away. An I mean, Yannick in 605 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: doc way that the Jags are a joke franchise. It's 606 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: just it's that simple. The Jags are a laughing stock franchise. 607 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: They're they're the biggest joke franchise right now in the 608 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: National Football League. Not even sure that's arguable. I guess 609 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: the Lions could probably throw their hat in the ring. 610 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, Stafford is still pretty good so and 611 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: they've got some good players, but they don't win either. 612 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: And Patricia is not very good, but he's holding out. 613 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: He wants to be traded. I don't know what they're 614 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna get for him. It's just a disastrous situation. It's 615 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: just classic Jaguars. And then Vic Beasley, who was a 616 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: royal bust for the Atlanta Falcons. I think they drafted him, 617 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: was it seventh overall, like really high in the top ten, 618 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: went to the Titans this offseason, and he didn't show 619 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: up for training camp. Not because he has corona, not 620 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: because he's injured, he just didn't show up an unexcused absence. 621 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I guess John Robinson said to the media today. He's 622 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: been in contact. He told him, like bro, that you're 623 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: not excused where you at. Just you know, some guys, 624 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: some guys get it. The majority of humans do not. Okay, 625 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's do a quick middle Cough mail bag 626 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: at John middlecoff is the Instagram handle and you fire 627 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: in ask questions. You guys know the drill. Also, just 628 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: gotta remind you again. Three and Out podcast Apple iTunes 629 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: subscribed to the podcast if you listen on Collins feed 630 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: and leave a review, greatly appreciated. Dre a key member 631 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks just had a baby. If a doctor 632 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: tells that key member of the Seahawks that he can't 633 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: be around his new child because he's playing football, that 634 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: guy is not gonna play and the Seahawks will be 635 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: three and thirteen at best. Wonder if Joe Douglass thought 636 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: about this, please discuss this for two minutes on the pot. 637 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine you're talking about Russell Wilson and his 638 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: baby whose name is when w I n whereas Al 639 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Davis would say just when baby. I'm pretty sure that 640 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is playing football this year. I'm actually positive 641 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's playing football. Maybe not one I'll go. I 642 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: don't want to look like an idiot. If some it 643 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: would be the biggest story of Corona. It would easily 644 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: be the biggest sports story of Corona. If Russell Wilson 645 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: were to opt out for the Seahawks, I don't know 646 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: what they tell him. I don't pretend to be a doctor. 647 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we all can read whatever you want to 648 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: read with kids in the coronavirus. Uh, Russell Wilson's playing football. 649 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: You know he's worked out all off season. He takes 650 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: videos where he's working out during coronavirus in l A 651 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: while she was pregnant. I think he had a pretty 652 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: good idea of what was to come given the baby. 653 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: So I Russell Wilson's playing now. If Joe Douglas knew 654 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was opting out and did the trade, yes, 655 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: he would be a genius because if they if Russell 656 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Wilson didn't play the Seattle Seahawks would be royally screwed 657 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: and the Jets would have sweet picks. But Russell Wilson's 658 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna play. I love the pod. What software do you 659 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: use to record the video side of it? I've looked 660 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: at a stream yard, but yours looks slightly different. What 661 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: I do is I record my audio on garage band. 662 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I used my iPad, which is set up which if 663 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: you follow me on Twitter, I also do my periscopes 664 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: for at my desk, and then I sent it to 665 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: a guy named Elijah who's a genius for Fox Sports Radio, 666 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and he sinks the audio and the video. But if 667 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to send the video to myself, I could 668 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: just take the audio from garage Band, take my video 669 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: from the iPad, and and drag it into I movie 670 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: and sink it up. You could do that as well. 671 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: So that's how I do it. Am I the most 672 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: efficient one doing it? Probably not I, I would say 673 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: on a tech savvy standpoint, I'm probably like, I don't 674 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: know four out of ten. When Seattle goes balls to 675 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: the wall with the Adam deal, it sends two messages 676 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: internally to the team that we're gonna go to the 677 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to externally too soon be to u UFA's 678 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Seattle is a player friendly and when you are uf A, 679 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: come here. We value talent. Might help Seattle get a 680 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: u FA down the road. Just my two cents, I 681 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: think Seattle has been pretty player friendly over the years. 682 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: You know, they've given Russell a ton of money. They've 683 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, traded for high price players and paid them. Uh. 684 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: They've paid Bobby Wagner, they paid Richard Sherman, they paid 685 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, they paid Cam Chancellor. Uh, you know, they 686 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: traded for Clowning. You know, I think Seattle would be 687 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: a place if I was a player, especially kind of 688 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: a crazy player, and like physical football is a place 689 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: where i'd want to Uh well, I want to play 690 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: for sure. First of all, love the show mate. Great 691 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: to see an honest take on the league's news from 692 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: someone who's worked inside the league. Appreciate it. My question 693 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: is are the chances of the Buffalo Bills winning the 694 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: a f C East. In my mind, they are the 695 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: clear favorites to win the division. I would agree, and 696 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: the news today of Chung and High Tower that may 697 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: opt out for the season is for further proof that 698 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: the Pats are not going to be a force this year. 699 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: Push back a little bit, but I would agree that 700 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: the Bills should win this division. However, the bookies still 701 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: have the Pat's favored to win the division. Buffalo are 702 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: paying two and a half to win. This to me 703 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: is great value bet and I don't think I've seen 704 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: mean this good of a bet in a long time? 705 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Am I crazier? Is am I missing something? Ps? You 706 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: guys have a different odds system in the US. Okay, 707 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: I was like two and a half. I think I 708 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: saw I'll pull up on on on my bookie what 709 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: my odds are? Listen. I saw Jim Kelly said this 710 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: during the off season, is that the moment Tom Brady left, 711 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: the Bills had no excuse. They were a playoff team 712 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: last year, and the Patriots are now in shambles when 713 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: you just look at their roster relative to what they've been, 714 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: this should be their season. Here's the thing, though, they Okay, 715 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: let's go a f C division odds I have if 716 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: C East, I got the Patriots plus one, I mean 717 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: one to one. You're right, you can get the Bills 718 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: better odds to win the division than the Patriots. I 719 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: think that speaks to Cam Newton. I think that speaks 720 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick, and I just think it speaks to 721 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: the unknown. I think the odds I'm looking at the 722 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins are both eight to one. The 723 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: Patriots are basically one to one, and the Jets are 724 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: like one point four to one, So plus one hundred 725 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: plus one forty and then eight eight. I would have 726 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: the Jets. To me, those odds are screwy, Like the 727 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: Jets one seven and nine last year have a much 728 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: more established quarterback than anything Miami has. I would have 729 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: the Jets at like four to one, not eight, not 730 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: the same number as the Miami Dolphin. That seems crazy 731 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: to me. The Dolphins are the clear fourth best team 732 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: in that division. I don't care what happened at the 733 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: end of last season. Uh, but I'm with you. I 734 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: think the Bills are fantastic value. I actually might bet 735 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: on that before the season starts. I'm gonna make a 736 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: little note Bills to win the division. Actually might look 737 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: to parlay that with something. Bills to win the division. 738 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: I kind of want to parlay them with another team. 739 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Can I get the Chiefs? Chiefs re minus four hundred, 740 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: that's a little spicy maybe the Colts the Texans. I 741 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: could do the Bills to win the division and the 742 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: Texans to win the division if I parlayed the two. 743 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: I can't parlay future bets never mind. Yeah, I'm I'm 744 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: with you. I like the Bills to win that division 745 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: as well. That's a. That's a. That was a good text. 746 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Got my my gambling mind thinking. Hi, John, I'm a 747 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: recent Cal grad and wanted to ask your opinion on 748 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: Cal's current staff, including their new OC Bill Musgrave coach Wilcox. 749 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: Wilcox has shown a significant improvement on the defensive side 750 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: of the ball compared to previous regime, but the offense 751 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: has been at the bottom of the pack twelve the 752 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: last few years. Do you think Musgrave is the right 753 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: higher to bring the offense to at least average in 754 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: the conference and continue the momentum from the best season 755 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: since Goff? Thanks? I think Justin Wilcox the legit coach. 756 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's clearly already established the top four or 757 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: five coach out West. If their offense is good, their 758 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: defense is gonna be good. Like they run a tight ship, 759 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: a physical defense. They can cover he understands coverages. Their 760 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: defense is gonna be good moving forward. It's just gonna 761 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: be can their quarterback play well? And last year I 762 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: went to a game against Arizona State on a Friday 763 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: night and their core back got hurt. And if he 764 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: can play better? When Bill Musgrave was here with Derek 765 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: Carry at his best season, he was on pace to 766 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: win the m v p SO until he broke his ankle. 767 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: I like Bill Musgrave. I think they will run a 768 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: more traditional offense like he uses a fullback. Uh. I 769 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: think he's known as a West Coast guy, but I 770 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: think he's he adapted well, like that year with Derek 771 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: Carr in sixteen with Crabtree and Amari was really really impressive. 772 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Bill Musgrave. Best podcast for 773 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: football takes. Appreciate it. I've always been curious about the 774 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: team's deal with performance anxiety. When you were working in 775 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, the team's invest in sports psychologist was a commonacy. 776 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: Big times talents underperformed because of performance anxiety. Keep up 777 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: the good work. Uh, that's a hell of a question. 778 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: I had heard stories about individual guys by the time. 779 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: I think the last ten years, these guys have their 780 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: own individual performance coaches. I think every team and definitely 781 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: anyone that goes to a powder five school in in 782 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: college have access to him, and I think it impacts 783 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: positively a lot of guys and they just continue to 784 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: use it. Sports are no different than life, right, we 785 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: all get insecure about things, we all question ourselves at things, 786 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: even when we're good at him, uh, and definitely when 787 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: we're bad at him. We're all humans, so I think 788 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: it plays a huge role. Now, some coaches are naturals 789 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: at that, are just natural uplifters. Like if you're around 790 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: coach Read and you're a good player, like I've seen it, 791 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: he's just good at it. You know, he's he's a 792 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: natural at it. I think as you you know, I 793 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh, like they're just personality 794 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: around these players, like they're good at uplifting. Now, you 795 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: might need one around Belichick or zimmer right, some of 796 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: the you know, the Parcels type guys. It's not not 797 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: exactly the same. But I think a lot of these coaches, 798 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: the you know, Pete Carroll is like, might as well 799 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: just be a sports psychologist. So I think it just 800 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: depends on your coach, because these guys when you're a 801 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: good player and you're making a lot of money, you 802 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: can always coaches doors wide open. Now we all have 803 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: things that we maybe can't talk about with the coach. 804 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: Then yeah, the teams definitely have access to it. Now, 805 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: some guys, you know, have it worse than others. Uh, 806 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I never played in the league. 807 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: But there has to be an Anxiety comes naturally the 808 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: sport of football. It's not like baseball or basketball. Every 809 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: game brings a large amount of anxiety. But I think 810 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: the older you get in the NFL, the studying habits help. 811 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: It's like when you study for a test, you know 812 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: the answers. In football, you never quite know the answers. 813 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: But these guys study so much. I think the preparation 814 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: helps a lot of these guys kind of ease. You 815 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: just spend so much time in the NFL working towards 816 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: the game. You know, whether it's lifting, whether it's practicing, 817 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: whether it's film study, whether it's you know, working on 818 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: your body. You don't really have that much time for 819 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: exact Now. There's other things in life, right, your family 820 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: pressures and your wife, your kids sick, whatever that we 821 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: all need help and to talk through and yeah, the 822 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: teams definitely have and provide access for stuff like that. 823 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean this, these are billion dollar industries. Whatever you need, 824 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: they will point you in the direction if they don't have. 825 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: But that's something I think that all teams have. If 826 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: I texted around to uh, to my buddies in the 827 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: league and the GMS, they would say that. I'm sure 828 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: they would say they all have that. I never saw 829 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: it around us, but I never really asked. I was 830 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: just so busy trying to make sure players got graded 831 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: and ship didn't get screwed up, so I didn't get 832 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: in trouble. You know, I didn't really have time to 833 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: think about performance coaches. I knew we had a we 834 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: had a great security guard though he's the best in 835 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: the business. Saw with the combine. Uh. Yeah, So I 836 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening. Have a good week, and uh, I'll 837 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: see you next next Tuesday, and I think it will 838 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: be in the full swing of things. Not these guys 839 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't think will actually be practicing. But all the 840 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: vets come back to to the facilities this weekend if 841 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: they all pass us the COVID test, and you know, 842 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: they'll start doing walk throughs and lifts, and I mean 843 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: in a in a coronavirus time, we'll start heading towards 844 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: the season. You know, typically I would be headed probably 845 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: to some some padded practices this weekend for the Niners, 846 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: and probably you know that sucks not happening now. But 847 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, instead I'll just go play golf and drink 848 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: alcohol a weekend. You know, you just you gotta deal 849 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: with the cards you're dealt like, I can't go. I 850 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: can't go, So enjoy your weekend. I hope you do 851 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: the same, and uh, I'll see you next week. See 852 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: you