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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. We got

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Speaker 1: lots to say, we got lots to say, what the back?

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Speaker 1: And we hope you say because we got.

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Speaker 2: Lost to say, yeah we got lost, just say here's

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Speaker 2: Bobby that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I did, mister Castle is. I got

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Speaker 1: online and I said, hey, what would you always want

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm in it to a point where

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Speaker 1: Question number one, did you get nervous before every game.

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Speaker 3: I'd say yes to some degree, some more than others.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: It's usually the opponent, like when you were going up

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Speaker 3: And it was always that feeling before the game. I

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Speaker 1: What would you tell people about nerves or how to

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me was honestly getting into my routine.

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Speaker 1: Guys in the locker room are like, why is Castle

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Speaker 3: Now, I think that you're more susceptible as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: I got hit in my tailbone once so hard because

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Speaker 1: your adrenaline's pumping, do the hits not hurt as bad

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Speaker 2: They were so pissed off at me.

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Speaker 1: That's not your fault because you didn't know. And the

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Speaker 1: It's a common, highly contagious viral illness that affects that

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Speaker 1: And there's no specific treatment, no meaning, there isn't something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look like wookie okay for something about Mary

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Speaker 3: it was brutal bro So yeah, so that's that's something

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Speaker 3: Actually have to buy your jerseys and your helmets at

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Speaker 2: You have the option to do that every year.

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Speaker 1: Were there some players and don't mention any names that

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Speaker 2: Are you a good teammate? Number two? Do I respect you?

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Speaker 3: Do you come out do your job and at the

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Speaker 3: Or do you get in the locker room in one

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Speaker 3: Naturally that's a lot of I mean a lot of

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Speaker 1: I would imagine when you aren't winning, that's a lot

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: When you're winning, you know, your coffee tastes a little

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Speaker 3: Everybody feels that because there's so much pressure on every organization,

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Speaker 1: I love to understand, I'm fifth string on that show,

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Speaker 1: Lionel Richie, greatest dude ever, does not have to be

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Speaker 1: go out to the Disney resort because Disney owned ABC,

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00:20:13,376 --> 00:20:15,856
Speaker 1: which had Idol on it, so we all worked for Disney.

441
00:20:16,455 --> 00:20:18,176
Speaker 1: So we would go out and shoot for like a

442
00:20:18,256 --> 00:20:20,775
Speaker 1: week because a big part of that season before the

443
00:20:20,776 --> 00:20:23,256
Speaker 1: Top ten or twelve was done at that resort. Wanted

444
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:24,775
Speaker 1: to promote the resort too. It gave it like a

445
00:20:24,816 --> 00:20:30,656
Speaker 1: Hawaii vibe. And we were doing a bit where they

446
00:20:31,056 --> 00:20:35,296
Speaker 1: buried me in the sand and my head was the

447
00:20:35,336 --> 00:20:37,095
Speaker 1: only thing popping out of the sand. So they had

448
00:20:37,136 --> 00:20:39,136
Speaker 1: dug this hole and they were like, Okay, get in,

449
00:20:39,215 --> 00:20:41,456
Speaker 1: and it was some sort of like promo. I don't

450
00:20:41,455 --> 00:20:43,856
Speaker 1: even know why she did this, because it wasn't like

451
00:20:43,936 --> 00:20:46,896
Speaker 1: Katie and I had a lot of interaction because most

452
00:20:46,936 --> 00:20:49,296
Speaker 1: people were like, don't like, she doesn't want talk to anybody,

453
00:20:49,296 --> 00:20:50,815
Speaker 1: to leave her alone. I was like, fine, by me,

454
00:20:51,416 --> 00:20:53,696
Speaker 1: all good. And I remember being in the sand with

455
00:20:53,776 --> 00:20:57,616
Speaker 1: my head just poking out, and she comes up to

456
00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:00,216
Speaker 1: me and she starts screaming, you'll never be Ryan. You're

457
00:21:00,256 --> 00:21:01,016
Speaker 1: never going to be Ryan.

458
00:21:01,096 --> 00:21:01,976
Speaker 2: Secret, no way.

459
00:21:02,296 --> 00:21:05,176
Speaker 1: And I think it's a joke at first, and I'm

460
00:21:05,215 --> 00:21:09,496
Speaker 1: like yeah, but also I don't have any arms or legs.

461
00:21:09,735 --> 00:21:12,056
Speaker 1: It's literally just my head. I can't even walk. My

462
00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,416
Speaker 1: head's out of the sand. She's like, you'll never be him.

463
00:21:14,536 --> 00:21:17,096
Speaker 1: Stop trying to be him. And then I realized she's

464
00:21:17,136 --> 00:21:19,216
Speaker 1: not kidding. But I don't know why, because I did

465
00:21:19,296 --> 00:21:23,736
Speaker 1: nothing to make her mad. I was already told just

466
00:21:24,056 --> 00:21:26,296
Speaker 1: let her do her thing. You know, sometimes she'd show

467
00:21:26,296 --> 00:21:29,216
Speaker 1: hours late, whatever, so I never try to be friends

468
00:21:29,256 --> 00:21:32,376
Speaker 1: with her. But somebody, and I will not say who,

469
00:21:32,656 --> 00:21:37,456
Speaker 1: somebody prominent, because even after that, I got really thick

470
00:21:37,495 --> 00:21:38,776
Speaker 1: skin kind of I don't care.

471
00:21:39,455 --> 00:21:41,056
Speaker 2: That would bug me big time.

472
00:21:41,376 --> 00:21:44,416
Speaker 1: It bugged somebody else on the show so bad they

473
00:21:44,696 --> 00:21:48,255
Speaker 1: pulled her whole team aside and was like that cannot happen.

474
00:21:48,455 --> 00:21:51,136
Speaker 1: And nobody told Katie anything on that show, but they

475
00:21:51,136 --> 00:21:53,936
Speaker 1: were like, that cannot happen. But yeah, she was.

476
00:21:54,416 --> 00:21:55,256
Speaker 2: I was not there.

477
00:21:55,616 --> 00:21:57,055
Speaker 1: There was no reason to do that. But she was

478
00:21:57,136 --> 00:21:59,336
Speaker 1: screaming at me. She wouldn't been having a bad day.

479
00:21:59,576 --> 00:22:01,816
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if you're having the worst day,

480
00:22:01,856 --> 00:22:02,696
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I hear you.

481
00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:06,215
Speaker 2: Why a human like that that works on the same

482
00:22:06,256 --> 00:22:06,815
Speaker 2: show as you.

483
00:22:07,455 --> 00:22:09,576
Speaker 1: That's awful. It was awful. It was a really bad,

484
00:22:09,576 --> 00:22:14,616
Speaker 1: it speaks really bad experience for me. I I was

485
00:22:14,656 --> 00:22:17,975
Speaker 1: just happy that somebody stuck up for me because I

486
00:22:18,056 --> 00:22:19,416
Speaker 1: wasn't going to do it. I didn't feel like I

487
00:22:19,455 --> 00:22:22,736
Speaker 1: needed to do it because I'll just take it. It's fine,

488
00:22:23,016 --> 00:22:23,656
Speaker 1: You're not gonna hurt me.

489
00:22:23,696 --> 00:22:24,136
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

490
00:22:24,896 --> 00:22:27,976
Speaker 1: But somebody did, Somebody prominent did, and because they saw

491
00:22:27,975 --> 00:22:29,775
Speaker 1: what was happening. So it also made me feel like

492
00:22:29,816 --> 00:22:34,096
Speaker 1: I wasn't crazy right, that I wasn't dreaming this scenario.

493
00:22:34,215 --> 00:22:39,215
Speaker 2: Am I blacking out? Yeah at me?

494
00:22:39,455 --> 00:22:42,056
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad one. That's probably my worst experience

495
00:22:42,096 --> 00:22:46,616
Speaker 1: ever in I would say Hollywood or TV because mostly

496
00:22:46,616 --> 00:22:49,615
Speaker 1: everybody's really respectful and LA gets the wrap of like

497
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,896
Speaker 1: people are weird, and they are, but so, I mean,

498
00:22:52,975 --> 00:22:55,015
Speaker 1: anybody creative is weird, or any athlete. You got to

499
00:22:55,016 --> 00:22:56,535
Speaker 1: be driven to a point where you got to have

500
00:22:56,536 --> 00:22:59,216
Speaker 1: a screw loose, right. You just hope it's the right screw. Yeah,

501
00:22:59,376 --> 00:23:01,216
Speaker 1: its a bad one. So that was That's like an

502
00:23:01,256 --> 00:23:04,056
Speaker 1: example of that. But we got you know what, got

503
00:23:04,096 --> 00:23:06,096
Speaker 1: along fine. I had no choice, been fired. I had

504
00:23:06,096 --> 00:23:06,576
Speaker 1: to get along.

505
00:23:07,176 --> 00:23:08,735
Speaker 2: I would not be able to get along with a

506
00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:11,295
Speaker 2: person like that. Like I hold grudges for a little while.

507
00:23:11,656 --> 00:23:14,416
Speaker 3: It takes me some time to get over, especially when

508
00:23:15,056 --> 00:23:17,936
Speaker 3: like that's an intentional trying.

509
00:23:17,696 --> 00:23:18,455
Speaker 2: To scar you.

510
00:23:18,616 --> 00:23:20,616
Speaker 3: I just didn't get your words and hurt you so

511
00:23:20,776 --> 00:23:22,296
Speaker 3: bad in front of other people too.

512
00:23:22,455 --> 00:23:27,856
Speaker 1: Everybody was around that. That's the weirdest person, A highre crew, cameras, everybody. Yeah,

513
00:23:28,096 --> 00:23:32,336
Speaker 1: I was a little embarrassed. Yeah, I was all embarrassed. Okay,

514
00:23:32,376 --> 00:23:36,416
Speaker 1: next question, Okay, that was amazing. Yeah, that whole thing such.

515
00:23:36,455 --> 00:23:38,736
Speaker 2: It wasn't amazing, It was awful actually.

516
00:23:38,536 --> 00:23:42,056
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also amazing because I name dropped so good.

517
00:23:42,816 --> 00:23:45,656
Speaker 1: H two questions. Can you hear the crowd during the

518
00:23:45,776 --> 00:23:49,455
Speaker 1: game and can you hear specific people yelling during the game?

519
00:23:49,816 --> 00:23:52,455
Speaker 3: Okay, the crowd, you can always hear to a certain extent,

520
00:23:52,536 --> 00:23:53,416
Speaker 3: particularly when.

521
00:23:53,256 --> 00:23:55,816
Speaker 2: You're on the road.

522
00:23:56,256 --> 00:23:58,976
Speaker 3: The roar of the crowd is so much louder when

523
00:23:59,016 --> 00:24:01,136
Speaker 3: you're on the offensive side of the ball because they're

524
00:24:01,136 --> 00:24:04,696
Speaker 3: getting hype, they're trying to trying to support the defense.

525
00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:08,055
Speaker 3: So it is can be deafening at times in particular stadiums,

526
00:24:08,495 --> 00:24:11,096
Speaker 3: and so you've your concentration level has to go so

527
00:24:11,176 --> 00:24:13,536
Speaker 3: much further up because we're on silent count. You're trying

528
00:24:13,576 --> 00:24:16,856
Speaker 3: to communicate it a much higher decimal. And then when

529
00:24:16,896 --> 00:24:19,896
Speaker 3: you it's usually on the road, but you can hear,

530
00:24:19,936 --> 00:24:21,896
Speaker 3: guys when you come over and sit on the sideline

531
00:24:21,896 --> 00:24:25,616
Speaker 3: where you're so close to the fans right there that

532
00:24:25,696 --> 00:24:29,295
Speaker 3: there's always somebody you know, a little bit chirpy some

533
00:24:29,455 --> 00:24:32,616
Speaker 3: of it to support. Most of the time, if they're

534
00:24:32,616 --> 00:24:35,975
Speaker 3: getting really chirpy. You know it's Castle, I hope you

535
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:39,016
Speaker 3: break your leg. You suck Castle, this, that and the other.

536
00:24:39,096 --> 00:24:42,055
Speaker 3: You know, you hear them, You're not paying attention to it.

537
00:24:42,056 --> 00:24:46,055
Speaker 3: It's almost comical because it's you one series, it's somebody

538
00:24:46,056 --> 00:24:48,616
Speaker 3: else the next series. So they're just they're waiting for

539
00:24:48,656 --> 00:24:50,856
Speaker 3: a response, and the worst thing you can do. These

540
00:24:50,896 --> 00:24:53,176
Speaker 3: guys will sometimes you see it all the time, they

541
00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:54,696
Speaker 3: respond to them, which.

542
00:24:54,616 --> 00:24:55,735
Speaker 1: NBA players especial.

543
00:24:55,856 --> 00:24:58,136
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it just adds so much fuel to

544
00:24:58,176 --> 00:24:58,576
Speaker 2: the fire.

545
00:24:58,776 --> 00:25:00,535
Speaker 3: And then you're just I was like, why are you

546
00:25:00,735 --> 00:25:05,215
Speaker 3: escalating this and having a conversation with somebody that is

547
00:25:05,576 --> 00:25:09,296
Speaker 3: just trying to get that type of response and incite

548
00:25:09,536 --> 00:25:13,936
Speaker 3: some kind of emotional response from you to just get

549
00:25:13,975 --> 00:25:16,136
Speaker 3: out of your game and get into a bad headspace.

550
00:25:16,336 --> 00:25:17,696
Speaker 2: I just never responded to it.

551
00:25:17,776 --> 00:25:19,775
Speaker 1: I think the parallel for me would be responding to

552
00:25:19,816 --> 00:25:22,696
Speaker 1: the comments when I know somebody is just trying to

553
00:25:22,696 --> 00:25:24,336
Speaker 1: get at me over and over and over again, and

554
00:25:24,376 --> 00:25:26,416
Speaker 1: I'm just like, nope, nope, nope, no, I screw it

555
00:25:26,495 --> 00:25:28,136
Speaker 1: and I go in and then they just won, like

556
00:25:28,215 --> 00:25:28,816
Speaker 1: they just won.

557
00:25:29,215 --> 00:25:32,416
Speaker 3: See That's why I never had social media when I played,

558
00:25:32,936 --> 00:25:35,496
Speaker 3: because I'd always sit there and these guys right after

559
00:25:35,536 --> 00:25:37,136
Speaker 3: the game would go on and look at their social

560
00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:40,735
Speaker 3: media and they're just getting murdered based on our performance.

561
00:25:41,176 --> 00:25:42,975
Speaker 3: And it could be their fault. It could be their fault.

562
00:25:43,056 --> 00:25:45,295
Speaker 3: But I was like, why are you subjecting yourself to

563
00:25:45,336 --> 00:25:48,976
Speaker 3: this type of criticism because we're all human. You could

564
00:25:48,975 --> 00:25:51,536
Speaker 3: be the most tough skinned human being ever, but at

565
00:25:51,536 --> 00:25:56,535
Speaker 3: some point you have a breaking point, and that for me,

566
00:25:56,616 --> 00:25:59,455
Speaker 3: it just would take away from what I need to

567
00:25:59,455 --> 00:26:01,976
Speaker 3: focus on because I'd get I'd get invested like.

568
00:26:01,975 --> 00:26:04,215
Speaker 2: You and be like, all right, this is I'm going.

569
00:26:04,136 --> 00:26:05,816
Speaker 1: To go off. It just takes a trick day like

570
00:26:05,856 --> 00:26:08,496
Speaker 1: I had today for me to just go in on somebody.

571
00:26:08,696 --> 00:26:11,536
Speaker 1: But it's why that pickleball thing, you know, the big

572
00:26:11,576 --> 00:26:13,816
Speaker 1: battle was going to happen till the guy chumped out

573
00:26:13,856 --> 00:26:17,936
Speaker 1: like a little so yeah, yeah, how social media does

574
00:26:17,936 --> 00:26:20,736
Speaker 1: that to me? I was watching Bennie Blanco talk, he's

575
00:26:20,776 --> 00:26:25,576
Speaker 1: a big record producer, and he said, I don't read

576
00:26:25,616 --> 00:26:27,696
Speaker 1: the comments, and most times when people say that, I

577
00:26:27,696 --> 00:26:29,096
Speaker 1: don't believe them and I try not to, but I

578
00:26:29,176 --> 00:26:31,096
Speaker 1: still do sometimes. And he said, I don't read the

579
00:26:31,096 --> 00:26:32,936
Speaker 1: comments because I don't need validation, Like I know what

580
00:26:32,936 --> 00:26:36,496
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I was like, that's so powerful. It is

581
00:26:37,136 --> 00:26:38,495
Speaker 1: so every time I click down, I go, do I

582
00:26:38,536 --> 00:26:41,576
Speaker 1: need the validation? Why am I looking right now? And

583
00:26:41,896 --> 00:26:43,815
Speaker 1: that clip of Bennie Blanco saying that.

584
00:26:45,336 --> 00:26:46,296
Speaker 2: Reminds you not to try?

585
00:26:46,336 --> 00:26:48,815
Speaker 1: Yeah, it helped me. Yeah, yeah, it helped me to

586
00:26:48,856 --> 00:26:50,816
Speaker 1: not even put myself in a position to be triggered.

587
00:26:50,975 --> 00:26:51,136
Speaker 2: Right.

588
00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:54,455
Speaker 3: Doug Flutie, my rookie year, was the one that said

589
00:26:54,856 --> 00:26:56,856
Speaker 3: there was this awesome article that came out in the

590
00:26:56,856 --> 00:27:00,416
Speaker 3: Boston Globe about Flutie, his career, what he's been through,

591
00:27:00,455 --> 00:27:02,376
Speaker 3: all these different things, And I said, I asked him.

592
00:27:02,416 --> 00:27:03,816
Speaker 2: I said, Doug, have you read this article?

593
00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:09,536
Speaker 3: It's really well written art really highlights you everything from

594
00:27:09,576 --> 00:27:11,055
Speaker 3: what you did on the field to what you do

595
00:27:11,096 --> 00:27:12,696
Speaker 3: off the field with your charity, all these things.

596
00:27:12,696 --> 00:27:14,336
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I never read it. I was like,

597
00:27:15,215 --> 00:27:16,136
Speaker 2: but this is a positive one.

598
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:20,696
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't read positive or negative because every

599
00:27:20,735 --> 00:27:24,136
Speaker 3: time I read something, it creates an emotional response in me.

600
00:27:24,495 --> 00:27:27,296
Speaker 3: And I just found like, I'm better off, good, badter,

601
00:27:27,336 --> 00:27:29,896
Speaker 3: indifferent if I just don't read it in that way.

602
00:27:29,936 --> 00:27:31,815
Speaker 3: I don't get too high, don't get too low, And

603
00:27:31,856 --> 00:27:34,936
Speaker 3: it's not gonna impact me whatsoever.

604
00:27:35,096 --> 00:27:36,696
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, it was great. It was a great

605
00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:37,416
Speaker 2: piece of advice.

606
00:27:37,776 --> 00:27:40,455
Speaker 1: Last question, did you get mad when you were in

607
00:27:40,455 --> 00:27:42,016
Speaker 1: a video game and your rating was low?

608
00:27:44,536 --> 00:27:44,616
Speaker 2: No?

609
00:27:45,056 --> 00:27:47,816
Speaker 3: You know that's really it's so interesting now, right, these

610
00:27:47,856 --> 00:27:50,775
Speaker 3: guys will go in and make a case for themselves

611
00:27:50,816 --> 00:27:54,056
Speaker 3: about their rating. And I really didn't play that many

612
00:27:54,176 --> 00:27:57,535
Speaker 3: video games. It was sparingly that you'd catch me playing

613
00:27:57,576 --> 00:28:01,096
Speaker 3: a video game, and so I didn't really care that much.

614
00:28:01,176 --> 00:28:04,696
Speaker 3: Now if I was a little insulted every now and

615
00:28:04,735 --> 00:28:08,015
Speaker 3: then when you're going you're kind of wait, my passer

616
00:28:08,096 --> 00:28:11,896
Speaker 3: rated thirty one eighty, like da or seventy?

617
00:28:11,936 --> 00:28:12,535
Speaker 2: What happened?

618
00:28:12,576 --> 00:28:14,016
Speaker 3: I know I had a little bit of down year,

619
00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:17,815
Speaker 3: but you guys didn't take taking a consideration the entire

620
00:28:17,975 --> 00:28:21,616
Speaker 3: aspect of our offensive unit here. But so yes, you

621
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,816
Speaker 3: get maybe a little offenite. But I never got worked

622
00:28:23,856 --> 00:28:25,975
Speaker 3: up over a video game for goodness sakes. I just

623
00:28:26,016 --> 00:28:28,896
Speaker 3: always was one of those guys that how cool is

624
00:28:28,936 --> 00:28:32,495
Speaker 3: it growing up playing video games with my brothers and

625
00:28:32,495 --> 00:28:35,856
Speaker 3: playing with all these guys that I'm actually in a

626
00:28:35,936 --> 00:28:38,816
Speaker 3: video game playing in the NFL again. It's one of

627
00:28:38,896 --> 00:28:43,016
Speaker 3: those wow moments that you realize dude, this is cool.

628
00:28:43,336 --> 00:28:44,216
Speaker 2: I'm in a video game.

629
00:28:44,296 --> 00:29:03,336
Speaker 1: That is cool. Yeah, I head off to Dallas tonight

630
00:29:03,456 --> 00:29:06,216
Speaker 1: because I'm going to do the ACMs on third Let's Gold,

631
00:29:06,776 --> 00:29:09,176
Speaker 1: which you're on Amazon Prime, which, by the way, a

632
00:29:09,216 --> 00:29:11,736
Speaker 1: little plug have especially on Amazon Prime. Right now. That

633
00:29:11,896 --> 00:29:15,456
Speaker 1: is basically about the history of the award show. I'm

634
00:29:15,456 --> 00:29:18,696
Speaker 1: interviewing Lanny Wilson, Keith, Thurban Brooks and done and just

635
00:29:18,736 --> 00:29:21,376
Speaker 1: talking about the history of it. But what's cool is no,

636
00:29:21,496 --> 00:29:23,496
Speaker 1: they Amazon didn't ask us to do it. We just

637
00:29:23,656 --> 00:29:26,776
Speaker 1: literally grab cameras and went and shot this thing and

638
00:29:26,816 --> 00:29:30,296
Speaker 1: then said we made this, and they said, oh, okay, yeah,

639
00:29:30,336 --> 00:29:33,016
Speaker 1: we like to have it. No way, I couldn't believe

640
00:29:33,016 --> 00:29:33,336
Speaker 1: it either.

641
00:29:33,376 --> 00:29:33,816
Speaker 2: Brilliant.

642
00:29:34,736 --> 00:29:37,656
Speaker 3: That's the type of business mind that every person needs.

643
00:29:37,656 --> 00:29:39,536
Speaker 3: But that's because you're also a grinder.

644
00:29:39,776 --> 00:29:41,896
Speaker 1: The problem. Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm on

645
00:29:41,936 --> 00:29:48,136
Speaker 1: grinder a lot. But the the what I would warn

646
00:29:48,176 --> 00:29:50,976
Speaker 1: about that is ninety six percent of the time it's

647
00:29:50,976 --> 00:29:52,336
Speaker 1: a no. And I'm okay with that.

648
00:29:52,656 --> 00:29:54,976
Speaker 3: Oh really, you've done that like bits like that before,

649
00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:56,376
Speaker 3: absolutely tried to sell them.

650
00:29:56,696 --> 00:29:59,496
Speaker 1: People generally don't want stuff from me because they look

651
00:29:59,496 --> 00:30:02,296
Speaker 1: at me and go, I need that guy. But just

652
00:30:02,336 --> 00:30:04,296
Speaker 1: like with anything else I've ever done, if I can

653
00:30:04,416 --> 00:30:07,736
Speaker 1: just get in, I can absolutely sell and then prove

654
00:30:07,816 --> 00:30:10,776
Speaker 1: my value. And so that's what we did. As soon

655
00:30:10,816 --> 00:30:12,176
Speaker 1: as I was put on the ACMs, and I've been

656
00:30:12,216 --> 00:30:14,816
Speaker 1: on that show the last three years, I had to

657
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:17,016
Speaker 1: have a way to like email somebody like I know

658
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:20,216
Speaker 1: somebody to email basically, and so we didn't tell anybody

659
00:30:20,216 --> 00:30:23,056
Speaker 1: we were doing it, and so we should. We shot it,

660
00:30:23,696 --> 00:30:26,536
Speaker 1: read edited it. My buddy Mike wrote a bunch of

661
00:30:26,576 --> 00:30:31,456
Speaker 1: the historical stuff called in Favors for Friends and said, hey,

662
00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:34,176
Speaker 1: can we interview you? Yeah, and it's on Amazon right

663
00:30:34,216 --> 00:30:37,456
Speaker 1: now because we spent a bunch of time just it. Honestly,

664
00:30:37,856 --> 00:30:39,976
Speaker 1: it probably in our mind it was going to be

665
00:30:40,016 --> 00:30:41,136
Speaker 1: a note and then we were just going to have

666
00:30:41,176 --> 00:30:43,095
Speaker 1: this product that we were just going to put out

667
00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:46,616
Speaker 1: on the internet. But yeah, no, I'm a big like

668
00:30:46,656 --> 00:30:51,376
Speaker 1: you talked about earlier, bet on yourself guy, because people

669
00:30:51,376 --> 00:30:53,336
Speaker 1: don't know about the nos. I don't care about that,

670
00:30:53,376 --> 00:30:55,216
Speaker 1: but people will see all the yeses and go, man,

671
00:30:55,216 --> 00:30:56,376
Speaker 1: you really got it made. And you're like, if you

672
00:30:56,456 --> 00:30:57,416
Speaker 1: had any idea, if you.

673
00:30:57,416 --> 00:31:02,016
Speaker 3: Have any idea, this on my own hoping this is

674
00:31:02,056 --> 00:31:03,176
Speaker 3: the result that would happen.

675
00:31:03,176 --> 00:31:04,536
Speaker 1: So this one works. So you can check it out

676
00:31:04,576 --> 00:31:07,056
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime and watch a search for this just now.

677
00:31:07,096 --> 00:31:09,815
Speaker 1: I don't do that, just search for Bobby Bones. I

678
00:31:09,896 --> 00:31:12,696
Speaker 1: played golf this past weekend. It was kind of a

679
00:31:12,736 --> 00:31:16,616
Speaker 1: work thing. I haven't really played golf much at all recently.

680
00:31:16,696 --> 00:31:18,736
Speaker 1: I used to play a lot. I mean this set

681
00:31:18,776 --> 00:31:20,976
Speaker 1: that we're on now is basically a golf simulator that

682
00:31:21,016 --> 00:31:22,976
Speaker 1: we turned into a set because I was really in

683
00:31:23,056 --> 00:31:25,336
Speaker 1: a golf and I haven't used it as a golf

684
00:31:25,376 --> 00:31:28,896
Speaker 1: simulator and probably a year year and a half. I

685
00:31:28,896 --> 00:31:30,816
Speaker 1: tore my rotator cuff, messed up my labor. I'm a

686
00:31:30,856 --> 00:31:32,776
Speaker 1: little bit so I was on the DL for like

687
00:31:32,816 --> 00:31:35,536
Speaker 1: six months, but was just ready to play golf again,

688
00:31:35,576 --> 00:31:38,456
Speaker 1: so when it was healthy. It turns out playing golf

689
00:31:38,456 --> 00:31:39,256
Speaker 1: takes a long time.

690
00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:40,016
Speaker 2: It does.

691
00:31:40,096 --> 00:31:42,456
Speaker 1: It's like four hour and I don't have four hours anymore.

692
00:31:42,616 --> 00:31:44,136
Speaker 1: So I kind of stopped playing and put my energy

693
00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:46,416
Speaker 1: into pickleball. Love play pickleball. Can do it in an

694
00:31:46,416 --> 00:31:48,376
Speaker 1: hour and get a workout in, but I wouldn't play

695
00:31:48,416 --> 00:31:50,056
Speaker 1: golf this past week. I've never had a hole in

696
00:31:50,136 --> 00:31:53,336
Speaker 1: one you no, never, And I hit a ball I

697
00:31:53,336 --> 00:31:55,416
Speaker 1: have bad vision. My right eye doesn't work. It has

698
00:31:55,456 --> 00:31:58,776
Speaker 1: eight percent vision. My left eye were really bad. Yeah,

699
00:31:58,816 --> 00:32:01,176
Speaker 1: it sucks my whole life. You should wear an eyepach.

700
00:32:01,176 --> 00:32:02,456
Speaker 1: I did wear an eyepatch as a kid. It got

701
00:32:02,456 --> 00:32:04,616
Speaker 1: beat up so many times. I stopped wearing it because

702
00:32:04,656 --> 00:32:05,376
Speaker 1: I hate to get beat up.

703
00:32:05,416 --> 00:32:06,416
Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to bring him.

704
00:32:06,416 --> 00:32:09,896
Speaker 1: No, No, that's it. I went across the middle and I.

705
00:32:10,056 --> 00:32:11,016
Speaker 2: Suck it taken out.

706
00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:13,536
Speaker 1: I did wear an eyepatch. It sucked because they used

707
00:32:13,536 --> 00:32:14,736
Speaker 1: to call me a little pirate and beat the crap

708
00:32:14,736 --> 00:32:18,496
Speaker 1: out of me. Regardless I can't see.

709
00:32:19,016 --> 00:32:19,096
Speaker 4: Uh.

710
00:32:19,256 --> 00:32:21,256
Speaker 1: I got my left eyes pretty good. I wore glasses,

711
00:32:21,376 --> 00:32:23,456
Speaker 1: were big, thick rimmed glasses. And I hit a ball

712
00:32:23,496 --> 00:32:25,616
Speaker 1: on a par three. It's like a one fifty five

713
00:32:25,656 --> 00:32:28,776
Speaker 1: one sixty uphill and I'm playing with three guys and

714
00:32:28,816 --> 00:32:30,336
Speaker 1: I hit it. And a lot of times I need

715
00:32:30,336 --> 00:32:32,536
Speaker 1: my friends to be my seeing eye dogs, not all

716
00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:34,176
Speaker 1: the time, because if I happen to hit it in

717
00:32:34,216 --> 00:32:35,976
Speaker 1: the middle and the sky is in the perfect I

718
00:32:35,976 --> 00:32:38,056
Speaker 1: can see the ball. But a lot of times I can't,

719
00:32:38,216 --> 00:32:39,736
Speaker 1: So I need seeing eye dogs with me. I hit

720
00:32:39,776 --> 00:32:44,216
Speaker 1: a ball, it's a perfect clip, perfect click. Yes, you're like,

721
00:32:44,256 --> 00:32:46,256
Speaker 1: oh man, I felt good. I say, can you guys

722
00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:50,536
Speaker 1: see it? And all three of them go and they

723
00:32:50,616 --> 00:32:52,576
Speaker 1: all start going, oh my god, jumping up and down.

724
00:32:52,656 --> 00:32:55,336
Speaker 1: No way, and I can't but I can't see anything.

725
00:32:55,656 --> 00:32:58,136
Speaker 1: And they're all going, oh, they're jumping up and down,

726
00:32:58,176 --> 00:33:00,256
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, either they talked about this before and

727
00:33:00,296 --> 00:33:02,696
Speaker 1: it's the most elaborate prank ever, but they didn't really

728
00:33:02,736 --> 00:33:04,216
Speaker 1: know each other. It was a work thing, so we

729
00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:06,296
Speaker 1: were all brought together, so they have the camaraderie to

730
00:33:06,376 --> 00:33:08,176
Speaker 1: really like, okay, we're gonna break Bobby.

731
00:33:08,256 --> 00:33:10,936
Speaker 3: So you're saying there's a chance. At that point, you're going, okay,

732
00:33:10,936 --> 00:33:11,815
Speaker 3: I'm putting this together.

733
00:33:12,056 --> 00:33:12,696
Speaker 2: Yeah.

734
00:33:12,696 --> 00:33:15,416
Speaker 1: The problem too is it went over a hill. So

735
00:33:15,496 --> 00:33:18,656
Speaker 1: they're jumping up and down and I'm like, you guys,

736
00:33:18,736 --> 00:33:20,896
Speaker 1: you guys think that went in And they're like, there

737
00:33:20,936 --> 00:33:23,376
Speaker 1: was great chance it was rolling right at the hole,

738
00:33:24,016 --> 00:33:27,136
Speaker 1: and so like all right, we get up and we're

739
00:33:27,216 --> 00:33:28,816
Speaker 1: driving up the hill and I'm like, this might have

740
00:33:28,816 --> 00:33:30,936
Speaker 1: been my first ever hole in one about a couple close,

741
00:33:31,696 --> 00:33:34,416
Speaker 1: a couple closest, but net never in. And we get

742
00:33:34,496 --> 00:33:35,896
Speaker 1: up and I don't, I don't. I don't see the

743
00:33:35,896 --> 00:33:38,536
Speaker 1: ball anywhere, and I get and I roll up beside it.

744
00:33:38,616 --> 00:33:40,896
Speaker 1: When you hit that one part of the hill, I

745
00:33:40,936 --> 00:33:44,176
Speaker 1: see the ball like two feet oh I know. And

746
00:33:44,216 --> 00:33:45,575
Speaker 1: it took us to get to the top of it

747
00:33:45,616 --> 00:33:48,136
Speaker 1: because they also lost it because right where the pin

748
00:33:48,296 --> 00:33:51,016
Speaker 1: was is where the hill hit right. The ball mark

749
00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:53,976
Speaker 1: was like three feet right in front of the hole.

750
00:33:54,456 --> 00:33:56,976
Speaker 1: It either hit the pin and dinked off or just

751
00:33:57,096 --> 00:33:59,936
Speaker 1: rolled right to the side of it. But it's pretty cool.

752
00:34:00,496 --> 00:34:03,256
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool one, but two is hilarious that I

753
00:34:03,296 --> 00:34:04,856
Speaker 1: had to rely on them to all start jumping up

754
00:34:04,856 --> 00:34:06,336
Speaker 1: and down for me, even believe it was gonna be.

755
00:34:06,256 --> 00:34:07,776
Speaker 5: For you kept your head down, you know, like a

756
00:34:07,776 --> 00:34:09,616
Speaker 5: good golfer. I kept my head down, your head down,

757
00:34:09,696 --> 00:34:13,576
Speaker 5: came through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna get back.

758
00:34:13,696 --> 00:34:18,616
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play golf mildly. But when I play and

759
00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:21,416
Speaker 5: I play halfway decent, I go maybe I get a

760
00:34:21,416 --> 00:34:21,856
Speaker 5: little better.

761
00:34:21,856 --> 00:34:23,296
Speaker 1: You know what I ordered. I ordered a mini driver.

762
00:34:23,376 --> 00:34:23,976
Speaker 1: Have you seen those?

763
00:34:24,376 --> 00:34:26,016
Speaker 2: I've used one. My buddy has one.

764
00:34:26,016 --> 00:34:27,456
Speaker 1: I just ordered one. It's on my front portrait. Now

765
00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:28,096
Speaker 1: I haven't used it yet.

766
00:34:28,136 --> 00:34:28,896
Speaker 2: You're pretty sweet.

767
00:34:28,976 --> 00:34:31,376
Speaker 1: It got here as we were gonna do the show.

768
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,456
Speaker 1: Now I'm leaving to go to Dallas right after this.

769
00:34:33,536 --> 00:34:37,496
Speaker 1: I can't use it. When I get back in Dallas,

770
00:34:37,616 --> 00:34:38,096
Speaker 1: I can't.

771
00:34:39,496 --> 00:34:40,815
Speaker 2: Are you stoked about that?

772
00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:43,656
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't know, because if I go

773
00:34:43,696 --> 00:34:46,216
Speaker 1: out and play, I want everybody to know. I'm not

774
00:34:46,256 --> 00:34:48,736
Speaker 1: a good golfer. I think I shot at eighty three, Okay.

775
00:34:48,456 --> 00:34:49,936
Speaker 2: So I'm not not bad. By the way.

776
00:34:50,056 --> 00:34:52,016
Speaker 1: For me, it's really good. I've never broken eighty. I've

777
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:55,936
Speaker 1: hit eighty a couple times. But I'm not a great golfer.

778
00:34:55,976 --> 00:34:58,216
Speaker 1: So I'm not going wow, look at because I have

779
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:01,576
Speaker 1: friends that are great golfers. My friend Ben Rector, Platinum

780
00:35:01,616 --> 00:35:07,976
Speaker 1: award artist. Uh, it's seventy four. My friend George Berge

781
00:35:07,976 --> 00:35:09,936
Speaker 1: two number ones in all country music, played at University

782
00:35:09,976 --> 00:35:10,496
Speaker 1: of Texas.

783
00:35:10,616 --> 00:35:12,016
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, so he's elite.

784
00:35:12,536 --> 00:35:14,736
Speaker 1: Yes, I hate playing with guys.

785
00:35:14,776 --> 00:35:16,536
Speaker 3: I love playing with him, but I hate it because

786
00:35:16,536 --> 00:35:18,736
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous throughout the round that they are always

787
00:35:18,736 --> 00:35:21,536
Speaker 3: find their ball, always on the fare away, they always

788
00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:25,416
Speaker 3: find yeah, can put. There's never a drop drop two,

789
00:35:25,496 --> 00:35:28,976
Speaker 3: hit three situation. It's always just consistent, and I'm like, oh,

790
00:35:29,056 --> 00:35:29,696
Speaker 3: I want that.

791
00:35:29,776 --> 00:35:32,576
Speaker 1: The thing about George as well, And George has two

792
00:35:32,696 --> 00:35:34,536
Speaker 1: massive number ones in a row. He just played at

793
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:37,256
Speaker 1: Stage Coach with Landa del Ray, which was super cool.

794
00:35:37,256 --> 00:35:40,256
Speaker 1: Like his his career is really popping now. But when

795
00:35:40,296 --> 00:35:43,336
Speaker 1: you when he plays, there's nothing about his game that

796
00:35:43,416 --> 00:35:47,335
Speaker 1: you're blown away by because he does there's no big

797
00:35:47,376 --> 00:35:51,536
Speaker 1: loud pops, there's no four hundred yard drives, but nothing

798
00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:52,456
Speaker 1: is ever off.

799
00:35:53,256 --> 00:35:55,056
Speaker 3: See those are those are the guys too that you

800
00:35:55,136 --> 00:35:59,176
Speaker 3: get really frustrated with that. They are unassuming and you're like,

801
00:35:59,216 --> 00:36:01,016
Speaker 3: I wonder what he's shot and he's like a shot

802
00:36:01,016 --> 00:36:01,616
Speaker 3: of seventy three.

803
00:36:01,696 --> 00:36:02,016
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

804
00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:03,976
Speaker 1: We played in Vegas once he came and open for me.

805
00:36:04,096 --> 00:36:05,976
Speaker 1: I did the win for like three nights in a row,

806
00:36:06,296 --> 00:36:07,696
Speaker 1: and so the wind let us play on their course,

807
00:36:07,696 --> 00:36:10,296
Speaker 1: which is sickst course. After you played there, it's awesome,

808
00:36:10,336 --> 00:36:13,376
Speaker 1: righty fantastic and they only put like five rounds out

809
00:36:13,416 --> 00:36:16,256
Speaker 1: at once, so you're never behind people. So I'm like, George,

810
00:36:16,336 --> 00:36:18,736
Speaker 1: let's go play. And he's like the kindest you would

811
00:36:18,856 --> 00:36:20,656
Speaker 1: know he's a great golfer by how he acts because

812
00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:24,656
Speaker 1: he's so supportive, and we just keep scoring. At the end,

813
00:36:24,976 --> 00:36:26,616
Speaker 1: I think I share like a eighty five or eighty six.

814
00:36:26,696 --> 00:36:29,936
Speaker 1: I said, what'd you do? He goes, uh, sixty eight,

815
00:36:30,536 --> 00:36:35,016
Speaker 1: like what the heck? And he said it's so modestly

816
00:36:35,496 --> 00:36:38,296
Speaker 1: it wasn't like talking about it. Ever, He's like, yeah,

817
00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:41,856
Speaker 1: sixty eight. So I have my mini driver, which also

818
00:36:42,056 --> 00:36:43,016
Speaker 1: she's an actress as well.

819
00:36:43,096 --> 00:36:46,096
Speaker 2: Mini driver, mini driver, Yes, great actress.

820
00:36:46,136 --> 00:36:48,176
Speaker 1: So if I get one more decent round in, I

821
00:36:48,256 --> 00:36:49,576
Speaker 1: might play a little bit. I know you and I

822
00:36:49,576 --> 00:36:50,776
Speaker 1: haven't played yet. We've talked about it.

823
00:36:50,816 --> 00:36:52,696
Speaker 2: We've been talking about schedule is.

824
00:36:52,936 --> 00:36:54,176
Speaker 1: And also I don't want to go out and be bad,

825
00:36:54,216 --> 00:36:54,896
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed.

826
00:36:54,976 --> 00:36:56,656
Speaker 3: Why I'm going to be bad. I told you that

827
00:36:56,696 --> 00:36:59,576
Speaker 3: I haven't been playing golf either. I've got five kids around.

828
00:36:59,376 --> 00:37:03,096
Speaker 1: Your Your athletic background is I don't know, I would

829
00:37:03,136 --> 00:37:08,016
Speaker 1: say quite different than mine. So you're bad is probably

830
00:37:08,536 --> 00:37:10,056
Speaker 1: no different your floor.

831
00:37:10,176 --> 00:37:12,776
Speaker 3: I look, I look like I can play, and then

832
00:37:12,816 --> 00:37:14,815
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you realize, you know, I might

833
00:37:14,936 --> 00:37:17,376
Speaker 3: have a few good holes in a row, and then

834
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:21,496
Speaker 3: eventually I blow up. Maybe his I'm just a mental

835
00:37:21,696 --> 00:37:25,896
Speaker 3: uh think myself.

836
00:37:25,936 --> 00:37:28,376
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it, like you should.

837
00:37:28,096 --> 00:37:29,736
Speaker 1: Have caught me instead of saying, Katie Perry, but whatever

838
00:37:29,776 --> 00:37:30,616
Speaker 1: it's in, we're leaving it.

839
00:37:31,016 --> 00:37:34,936
Speaker 3: You actually went there and if I knew that, You're no,

840
00:37:35,016 --> 00:37:38,016
Speaker 3: because you had to say that, I mean it was yeah, Yeah,

841
00:37:38,096 --> 00:37:39,176
Speaker 3: that was a terrible story.

842
00:37:39,296 --> 00:37:41,336
Speaker 1: I've never told it because I never want to be

843
00:37:41,336 --> 00:37:46,256
Speaker 1: that guy. But looking back, looking back, I wish that

844
00:37:46,336 --> 00:37:48,656
Speaker 1: was bad. I'm embarrassed by that, not by telling the

845
00:37:48,696 --> 00:37:51,456
Speaker 1: story about what happened. I was humiliated that day. I

846
00:37:51,496 --> 00:37:52,696
Speaker 1: don't get humiliated often.

847
00:37:52,816 --> 00:37:53,296
Speaker 2: I was bad.

848
00:37:53,416 --> 00:38:10,936
Speaker 1: I felt really, yeah, I was bad. That means, Okay,

849
00:38:10,976 --> 00:38:12,936
Speaker 1: here's what I have and I don't want I don't

850
00:38:12,936 --> 00:38:14,576
Speaker 1: want this to be humiliating for you.

851
00:38:14,976 --> 00:38:15,656
Speaker 2: Oh please let it.

852
00:38:15,896 --> 00:38:17,056
Speaker 1: You don't know what it is, but you know.

853
00:38:17,056 --> 00:38:19,216
Speaker 2: I have no idea. But now you went down that path.

854
00:38:19,656 --> 00:38:22,776
Speaker 1: So what I'm going to do as I go to

855
00:38:22,856 --> 00:38:26,776
Speaker 1: Dallas is I will Land will rehearse tonight and if

856
00:38:26,776 --> 00:38:29,376
Speaker 1: you watch the Awards show, that's awesome. Reba will be hosting.

857
00:38:29,416 --> 00:38:31,976
Speaker 1: I'll be on multiple times in the crowd, probably talking

858
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,536
Speaker 1: with people. They kind of just tell me to go

859
00:38:33,576 --> 00:38:35,216
Speaker 1: do my thing, which is a fun place to be

860
00:38:35,216 --> 00:38:37,216
Speaker 1: because that means they trust me to just go improv.

861
00:38:37,576 --> 00:38:38,256
Speaker 2: Do you like that?

862
00:38:38,536 --> 00:38:38,776
Speaker 1: Yes?

863
00:38:38,936 --> 00:38:40,776
Speaker 2: Like, no direction, just let me do my thing.

864
00:38:41,696 --> 00:38:44,416
Speaker 3: Yes, Because you have enough relationships in this guy's why

865
00:38:44,496 --> 00:38:48,096
Speaker 3: that's what makes it simple for you. And it sounds conversational, correct.

866
00:38:48,416 --> 00:38:52,136
Speaker 1: I yes, I I like no direction as long as

867
00:38:52,176 --> 00:38:54,696
Speaker 1: I know what the general direction is supposed to be.

868
00:38:54,856 --> 00:38:56,736
Speaker 1: Got it because I want I want to what the

869
00:38:56,736 --> 00:38:59,056
Speaker 1: expectation is. I want to do a good job. But

870
00:38:59,096 --> 00:39:00,376
Speaker 1: if they said, hey, you go do whatever you want,

871
00:39:00,416 --> 00:39:03,296
Speaker 1: that'd be awesome too. But yeah, I do. I like it.

872
00:39:03,336 --> 00:39:04,656
Speaker 1: They trust me. I think that's what I like.

873
00:39:05,376 --> 00:39:05,736
Speaker 2: I have the.

874
00:39:05,656 --> 00:39:08,856
Speaker 3: Producer in your ear screaming at you, never about you've got.

875
00:39:09,016 --> 00:39:10,056
Speaker 2: No one minute.

876
00:39:10,216 --> 00:39:14,216
Speaker 1: They in some shows my show on not Geo which

877
00:39:14,256 --> 00:39:16,336
Speaker 1: is on Amazon now called Breaking Bobby Bones, I had

878
00:39:16,336 --> 00:39:19,696
Speaker 1: a producer in my ear for safety reasons, okay, because

879
00:39:19,736 --> 00:39:21,456
Speaker 1: I was doing I got lit on Fire one show,

880
00:39:21,496 --> 00:39:26,616
Speaker 1: I got throw, so yes, there'd be And I did

881
00:39:26,656 --> 00:39:27,936
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft a couple of years ago. I had

882
00:39:27,976 --> 00:39:30,816
Speaker 1: a producer in my ear. And that's all for timing reasons.

883
00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:33,176
Speaker 3: Right, Because when I work with NBC on college football,

884
00:39:33,736 --> 00:39:35,736
Speaker 3: because we are on the field, so they're like, we've

885
00:39:35,736 --> 00:39:39,496
Speaker 3: got two minutes here, and we've got usually two to

886
00:39:39,576 --> 00:39:41,456
Speaker 3: three people out on the field at any given time,

887
00:39:41,536 --> 00:39:44,136
Speaker 3: so they're in my ear, especially if I go third

888
00:39:44,416 --> 00:39:49,576
Speaker 3: a thirty seconds cast third suck fifteen because and I've

889
00:39:49,736 --> 00:39:53,336
Speaker 3: literally said, yes, maybe the guy's name, prying a little

890
00:39:53,336 --> 00:39:55,256
Speaker 3: bit about them, and they're like, we got to go

891
00:39:55,296 --> 00:39:55,776
Speaker 3: to commercial.

892
00:39:56,416 --> 00:39:59,416
Speaker 1: I'm not done with my thoughts exactly what finished? That's

893
00:39:59,416 --> 00:40:00,576
Speaker 1: the most annoying, Oh dude.

894
00:40:00,576 --> 00:40:03,536
Speaker 3: And it's just it is disturbing and disruptive all at

895
00:40:03,536 --> 00:40:05,016
Speaker 3: the same time because you're trying to keep your train

896
00:40:05,056 --> 00:40:08,176
Speaker 3: of thought and it is such a difficult thing.

897
00:40:08,056 --> 00:40:10,576
Speaker 2: To be hearing your countdown and then.

898
00:40:10,456 --> 00:40:12,696
Speaker 3: You're trying not to speed up and sound rushed and

899
00:40:12,736 --> 00:40:13,335
Speaker 3: everything else.

900
00:40:13,576 --> 00:40:16,016
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's such a craft, mostly for you.

901
00:40:16,096 --> 00:40:18,136
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed when they make you go third, because that

902
00:40:18,216 --> 00:40:21,176
Speaker 1: means you're watching the other two guys that you're all professionals,

903
00:40:21,256 --> 00:40:23,496
Speaker 1: but when they start to go along, you're going, oh,

904
00:40:23,496 --> 00:40:25,016
Speaker 1: you're eating my time, my time.

905
00:40:24,816 --> 00:40:27,216
Speaker 2: I'm counting down my time. For sure, it's happened.

906
00:40:27,296 --> 00:40:29,096
Speaker 3: I'm sure I've been the one that's gone first, and

907
00:40:29,136 --> 00:40:31,696
Speaker 3: there's thinking the same thing. But we all think the

908
00:40:31,736 --> 00:40:34,096
Speaker 3: same thing because when they go a little bit longer

909
00:40:34,136 --> 00:40:36,216
Speaker 3: and you're sitting there going, oh man, I got to

910
00:40:36,256 --> 00:40:39,176
Speaker 3: cut out like three sentences, I'm crunched. How am I

911
00:40:39,216 --> 00:40:43,016
Speaker 3: going to convey a point that sounds somewhat articulate, intelligent

912
00:40:43,336 --> 00:40:44,176
Speaker 3: and makes sense.

913
00:40:45,136 --> 00:40:49,736
Speaker 1: It's so tough, first world problems. But so I go down.

914
00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:52,656
Speaker 1: I'll rehearse tonight and then tomorrow night, I am hosting

915
00:40:53,096 --> 00:40:56,376
Speaker 1: a gala for Brooks and Dune, very famous country do

916
00:40:56,416 --> 00:40:58,336
Speaker 1: if you don't know country music as big as it

917
00:40:58,376 --> 00:41:00,896
Speaker 1: gets in country music and Boots Guten Boogie, My Marie,

918
00:41:01,656 --> 00:41:07,056
Speaker 1: My Marie brand new Man. I am really good friends

919
00:41:07,056 --> 00:41:09,576
Speaker 1: with the lead singer, Ronnie Dunn. Friends is that he's seventy,

920
00:41:09,976 --> 00:41:11,576
Speaker 1: so it's not like we're playing a bunch of pickleball

921
00:41:11,576 --> 00:41:14,096
Speaker 1: in the backyard. But love them like we'll have dinners together,

922
00:41:14,696 --> 00:41:16,336
Speaker 1: and which is crazy because like you talk about a

923
00:41:16,416 --> 00:41:18,656
Speaker 1: video game, like for me to be friends with the

924
00:41:18,736 --> 00:41:21,216
Speaker 1: lead singer Brooks had done Ronnie done, that's.

925
00:41:21,096 --> 00:41:22,335
Speaker 2: Crazy, right right?

926
00:41:22,696 --> 00:41:24,376
Speaker 1: So I know them, and Ronnie gave me one of

927
00:41:24,416 --> 00:41:25,736
Speaker 1: his old jackets from the nineties. I was like, I

928
00:41:25,776 --> 00:41:27,736
Speaker 1: want to wear one of your jackets at the gala,

929
00:41:28,136 --> 00:41:32,496
Speaker 1: so he gave me one, and I went to their manager,

930
00:41:32,536 --> 00:41:34,616
Speaker 1: who I know very well. I said, Hey, when I

931
00:41:34,616 --> 00:41:37,696
Speaker 1: come out, I'm going to roast them like I know them.

932
00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:42,496
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roast and he says to me, yeah, he says,

933
00:41:42,536 --> 00:41:44,616
Speaker 1: you won't say anything worse than I say to them,

934
00:41:44,776 --> 00:41:46,816
Speaker 1: and I say, all right, cool, I just wanted you

935
00:41:46,856 --> 00:41:48,616
Speaker 1: to know, so it's not a surprise. He said, but

936
00:41:48,696 --> 00:41:50,896
Speaker 1: you know the line, And I said, no, I don't

937
00:41:50,936 --> 00:41:52,936
Speaker 1: know the line, right, like I generally don't know the

938
00:41:52,936 --> 00:41:54,815
Speaker 1: line to walk up to, like I go, I fall

939
00:41:54,816 --> 00:41:56,896
Speaker 1: over the lines and doesn't have to back up. I

940
00:41:56,936 --> 00:41:58,656
Speaker 1: know when to back up, but I don't know the line.

941
00:41:59,136 --> 00:42:00,816
Speaker 1: And he's like, just know the line. So I've been

942
00:42:00,816 --> 00:42:05,056
Speaker 1: in the joke riding. This last couple of weeks has

943
00:42:05,056 --> 00:42:07,256
Speaker 1: been joke writing season for me again. When I was

944
00:42:07,296 --> 00:42:09,016
Speaker 1: touring a lot doing stand up, I live in it

945
00:42:09,136 --> 00:42:12,815
Speaker 1: to write notes. So I wrote a bunch of roast

946
00:42:12,936 --> 00:42:15,576
Speaker 1: jokes about Brooks and Done. But at the same time

947
00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:17,016
Speaker 1: I like to write about other people just to kind

948
00:42:17,016 --> 00:42:18,136
Speaker 1: of get me in. So I have a whole bunch

949
00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:19,296
Speaker 1: of Matt Castle roast jokes.

950
00:42:19,696 --> 00:42:19,856
Speaker 2: Yes.

951
00:42:19,976 --> 00:42:22,176
Speaker 1: Now the question is going to be are you going

952
00:42:22,216 --> 00:42:23,416
Speaker 1: to be offended by any of this?

953
00:42:23,696 --> 00:42:24,216
Speaker 2: Not at all.

954
00:42:24,736 --> 00:42:27,696
Speaker 3: I've probably heard most of them anyway. I just told

955
00:42:27,736 --> 00:42:29,536
Speaker 3: you I can hear the fans talking smack to me.

956
00:42:29,576 --> 00:42:30,096
Speaker 3: All the time.

957
00:42:30,176 --> 00:42:32,896
Speaker 1: I hear you, all right, don't forget I'm your friend,

958
00:42:33,136 --> 00:42:33,776
Speaker 1: and I'm your.

959
00:42:33,696 --> 00:42:35,976
Speaker 2: Friend regardless of how this hurts.

960
00:42:36,016 --> 00:42:39,656
Speaker 1: I'm your friend, and you will not call me Katie

961
00:42:39,656 --> 00:42:40,456
Speaker 1: Perry when this is over.

962
00:42:41,656 --> 00:42:43,815
Speaker 2: I'm your friend.

963
00:42:44,216 --> 00:42:48,416
Speaker 1: Yes, I would only roast somebody that I truly cared about, Okay,

964
00:42:48,536 --> 00:42:52,136
Speaker 1: And I've not practiced on anybody. The hard things about

965
00:42:52,176 --> 00:42:55,456
Speaker 1: doing one off shows are you can't practice the material.

966
00:42:55,896 --> 00:42:57,416
Speaker 1: So even with Brooks and Done, all the jokes are

967
00:42:57,416 --> 00:42:59,736
Speaker 1: written for them, I'll do it once. Sixty percent of

968
00:42:59,736 --> 00:43:02,016
Speaker 1: it'd be great, ten percent will be good. There'll be

969
00:43:02,056 --> 00:43:03,776
Speaker 1: a couple that just don't go over well. But I

970
00:43:03,816 --> 00:43:05,656
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going to work because I've never done.

971
00:43:05,816 --> 00:43:08,296
Speaker 2: Are you using the same principle of there's a line here? No?

972
00:43:08,736 --> 00:43:09,296
Speaker 1: With you?

973
00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:11,336
Speaker 2: No, I hope not. I want you to go so.

974
00:43:11,416 --> 00:43:13,256
Speaker 1: Far over Okay, Yeah, so I have.

975
00:43:13,416 --> 00:43:15,296
Speaker 2: I can't wait to write jokes for you next week.

976
00:43:15,576 --> 00:43:19,016
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Okay, so well, just you're sending

977
00:43:19,016 --> 00:43:22,496
Speaker 1: at a table, right, Matt Castle? Yeah, yeah, yeah, say

978
00:43:22,536 --> 00:43:25,456
Speaker 1: a couple of things. They played data, Every coach loved them,

979
00:43:25,776 --> 00:43:29,016
Speaker 1: every team gave him a chance. Every fan said, wait,

980
00:43:29,016 --> 00:43:33,696
Speaker 1: who's starting today. But they're also good ones too, right,

981
00:43:33,816 --> 00:43:37,496
Speaker 1: like Matt, Matt that Matt's a great guy. Matt's so nice.

982
00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:40,496
Speaker 1: Even his interceptions apologized they did.

983
00:43:40,656 --> 00:43:43,416
Speaker 3: You know what, I always looked at interceptions as just

984
00:43:43,456 --> 00:43:44,216
Speaker 3: another completion.

985
00:43:44,376 --> 00:43:46,896
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice even you. They're like, I'm sorry're gonna

986
00:43:46,896 --> 00:43:50,776
Speaker 1: stay positive. If you say Matt Castle into a mirror

987
00:43:50,816 --> 00:43:53,815
Speaker 1: three times, a backup quarterback appears behind you and asks

988
00:43:53,816 --> 00:43:54,816
Speaker 1: for a tryout.

989
00:43:57,376 --> 00:43:59,896
Speaker 2: That's actually really good. That's really good.

990
00:43:59,936 --> 00:44:01,736
Speaker 1: That's based on like bloody marriage. You guys have bloody

991
00:44:01,736 --> 00:44:04,576
Speaker 1: Mary spent around bloody married. We say, Matt Castle, I'd

992
00:44:04,616 --> 00:44:07,976
Speaker 1: like to try out. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes,

993
00:44:08,536 --> 00:44:11,016
Speaker 1: Matt's the only guy who can meticulously break down an

994
00:44:11,096 --> 00:44:16,256
Speaker 1: NFL defense, but also gets really confused by TikTok? What's tiktow?

995
00:44:16,296 --> 00:44:16,576
Speaker 2: Do I do?

996
00:44:16,616 --> 00:44:17,056
Speaker 1: TikTok?

997
00:44:17,136 --> 00:44:20,016
Speaker 2: Is I really am confused by TikTok? Just scroll?

998
00:44:20,336 --> 00:44:22,456
Speaker 1: You know you've had a weird career when the words

999
00:44:22,536 --> 00:44:29,096
Speaker 1: Tom Brady got hurt are the reason you're famous. No, mate,

1000
00:44:29,576 --> 00:44:31,976
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad, but I still it's like I'm

1001
00:44:31,976 --> 00:44:34,736
Speaker 1: looking at you to make sure you're not You're not okay?

1002
00:44:34,856 --> 00:44:37,016
Speaker 3: All right, that's the funniest part about everybody is like,

1003
00:44:37,616 --> 00:44:39,056
Speaker 3: how many seasons did you play?

1004
00:44:39,256 --> 00:44:41,656
Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to remember you from the Patriots. Yeah,

1005
00:44:41,736 --> 00:44:42,256
Speaker 2: I get it.

1006
00:44:42,776 --> 00:44:46,176
Speaker 1: Our podcast is a perfect combo. I bring the hot

1007
00:44:46,216 --> 00:44:49,696
Speaker 1: takes and Matt brings the vague memory of starting in

1008
00:44:49,696 --> 00:44:53,216
Speaker 1: the league when flip phones were still cool. Thank you.

1009
00:44:53,336 --> 00:44:54,496
Speaker 2: I used to phone too.

1010
00:44:54,656 --> 00:44:57,976
Speaker 1: These are better than others. Matt once played quarterback in Dallas, Buffalo,

1011
00:44:58,096 --> 00:45:00,536
Speaker 1: and Kansas City. At this point, I think he was

1012
00:45:00,616 --> 00:45:04,336
Speaker 1: just collecting zip codes, like he's playing Pokemon Go. So

1013
00:45:04,376 --> 00:45:06,496
Speaker 1: if you knew that game, travel, yeah, I probably gott

1014
00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:10,096
Speaker 1: to have it. When Matt talks about complex offenses on

1015
00:45:10,136 --> 00:45:12,976
Speaker 1: the podcast, I nod like I get it, But honestly,

1016
00:45:13,216 --> 00:45:16,216
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on Wait, you never really started a

1017
00:45:16,256 --> 00:45:21,536
Speaker 1: single college game, ain't three more? I once told Matt

1018
00:45:21,536 --> 00:45:23,656
Speaker 1: he should write a book about his NFL journey. He

1019
00:45:23,696 --> 00:45:26,456
Speaker 1: said he's thinking about it. I offered the title, right place,

1020
00:45:26,616 --> 00:45:32,536
Speaker 1: right time, right clipboard. All right, I got two more.

1021
00:45:34,896 --> 00:45:37,376
Speaker 1: Matt didn't really play football. He just loitered near a

1022
00:45:37,416 --> 00:45:39,016
Speaker 1: football field until someone got injured.

1023
00:45:39,976 --> 00:45:43,256
Speaker 3: It was perfect, great, that's exactly right. Sometimes you got

1024
00:45:43,256 --> 00:45:44,776
Speaker 3: to see your opportunity and season.

1025
00:45:45,656 --> 00:45:49,816
Speaker 1: One more one more as a quarterback, Matt was like

1026
00:45:49,896 --> 00:45:59,896
Speaker 1: a fire extinguisher, only used an emergency.

1027
00:45:53,016 --> 00:46:03,296
Speaker 6: Okay, here's what I did, though, I got more.

1028
00:46:03,856 --> 00:46:06,096
Speaker 1: I wrote something for you to say to me. Oh,

1029
00:46:06,136 --> 00:46:07,736
Speaker 1: I get to read here? Yeah, can you can read

1030
00:46:07,736 --> 00:46:09,416
Speaker 1: something about me? Just so, just so I don't feel

1031
00:46:09,456 --> 00:46:11,056
Speaker 1: as bad. This is me making guilt.

1032
00:46:10,856 --> 00:46:14,056
Speaker 3: Jokes about me, But this is you making guilt jokes

1033
00:46:14,096 --> 00:46:14,616
Speaker 3: about yourself.

1034
00:46:14,656 --> 00:46:17,496
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so, I also like I should feel bad too, Okay,

1035
00:46:17,496 --> 00:46:18,216
Speaker 1: go ahead, okay.

1036
00:46:18,376 --> 00:46:21,776
Speaker 3: Bobby Bones looks like a youth pastor who peaked when

1037
00:46:21,776 --> 00:46:27,296
Speaker 3: he got verified on Instagram. Yes, Bobby's so awkward in person.

1038
00:46:27,496 --> 00:46:29,176
Speaker 3: Even Siri tries to walk away.

1039
00:46:30,336 --> 00:46:30,696
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1040
00:46:32,216 --> 00:46:35,656
Speaker 3: If insecurity were a sport, Bobby Bones would be the

1041
00:46:35,656 --> 00:46:36,576
Speaker 3: Tom Brady of it.

1042
00:46:38,216 --> 00:46:41,336
Speaker 2: And I've seen that at the Commissioner Center. Thank you.

1043
00:46:42,336 --> 00:46:45,256
Speaker 3: He acts like he doesn't care what people think, but

1044
00:46:45,456 --> 00:46:49,136
Speaker 3: checks his podcast reviews like their e KG results.

1045
00:46:49,256 --> 00:46:52,096
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Bobby.

1046
00:46:51,856 --> 00:46:53,176
Speaker 1: I'm starting to hate it. I started to get mad

1047
00:46:53,176 --> 00:46:54,336
Speaker 1: at him, even though I wrote them.

1048
00:46:54,416 --> 00:46:57,736
Speaker 2: You wrote them, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, you just did

1049
00:46:57,776 --> 00:46:58,976
Speaker 2: this to make me feel better.

1050
00:46:59,016 --> 00:47:00,976
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you wrote I feel guilty.

1051
00:47:01,056 --> 00:47:02,856
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote feel guilty.

1052
00:47:03,096 --> 00:47:04,936
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want him to cry, I need to

1053
00:47:04,976 --> 00:47:05,856
Speaker 1: hand him some major.

1054
00:47:07,016 --> 00:47:10,456
Speaker 3: Okay, Bobby grew up so poor. He didn't have a

1055
00:47:10,576 --> 00:47:13,296
Speaker 3: night light growing up. He just left his fridge open

1056
00:47:13,376 --> 00:47:15,256
Speaker 3: and stared at hope.

1057
00:47:17,176 --> 00:47:17,496
Speaker 1: Deep.

1058
00:47:17,736 --> 00:47:23,016
Speaker 2: That's super deep. One more go ahead.

1059
00:47:23,376 --> 00:47:27,656
Speaker 3: Bobby hosts a national radio show rights best sellers, and

1060
00:47:27,776 --> 00:47:30,976
Speaker 3: he wins Dancing with the Starts despite moving like a

1061
00:47:30,976 --> 00:47:34,416
Speaker 3: Madden created player stuck on glitch mode.

1062
00:47:34,976 --> 00:47:38,176
Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, yes, but now I don't feels bad

1063
00:47:38,176 --> 00:47:39,816
Speaker 1: because you want to get some shots in on me too.

1064
00:47:40,136 --> 00:47:42,416
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I took those shots for sure.

1065
00:47:42,496 --> 00:47:48,296
Speaker 2: Thank you. Where's Katie Perry when you need exactly? Yeah?

1066
00:47:48,656 --> 00:47:52,856
Speaker 1: He was like hers was hurtful. Yeah, hers was like furnace.

1067
00:47:53,176 --> 00:47:55,496
Speaker 3: Hey, if that's my roast that I get to do,

1068
00:47:55,616 --> 00:47:58,016
Speaker 3: comparatively speaking, then that roast that I saw with my

1069
00:47:58,056 --> 00:48:00,296
Speaker 3: buddy Tom Brady, I'm totally fine with that.

1070
00:48:00,496 --> 00:48:02,736
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. I enjoyed every minute of that.

1071
00:48:03,336 --> 00:48:06,096
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. Please share with your friends

1072
00:48:06,096 --> 00:48:07,736
Speaker 1: that you listen to the show. Would help us so much.

1073
00:48:08,296 --> 00:48:10,656
Speaker 1: He's Matt Castle on Bobby Villones. That's kick off Kevin

1074
00:48:10,976 --> 00:48:13,856
Speaker 1: and read rest in Peace no longer with us, however,

1075
00:48:14,776 --> 00:48:19,056
Speaker 1: fun fact about read the NFL is hiring Reed to

1076
00:48:19,096 --> 00:48:22,536
Speaker 1: do our videos now from away because there are other

1077
00:48:22,536 --> 00:48:24,536
Speaker 1: people were doing it and they did a fine job,

1078
00:48:24,976 --> 00:48:28,216
Speaker 1: but now we haven't, so Read's going to be at

1079
00:48:28,216 --> 00:48:30,736
Speaker 1: home doing that. But our new now director of video

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00:48:30,776 --> 00:48:34,616
Speaker 1: is Brandon ray Brand. So thank you guys for listening

1081
00:48:34,656 --> 00:48:37,736
Speaker 1: and we will see you guys next time on Lots

1082
00:48:37,776 --> 00:48:45,616
Speaker 1: to Say. Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt

1083
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:49,416
Speaker 1: Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

1084
00:48:49,496 --> 00:48:53,736
Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

1085
00:48:53,816 --> 00:48:55,136
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.