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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Break. We are live
Speaker 1: here in the studio. How are you guys doing. Let
Speaker 1: me start off with a nice welcoming how are y'all doing?
Speaker 1: Hid we missed you yesterday? Great? Thank you. I listened
Speaker 1: to the show and I heard all the gumbo talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did do it? It was interesting, Yeah it was. It
Speaker 1: was an okay show, all right, Yeah, okay, it was
Speaker 1: okay through the whole show, but should be bad. It
Speaker 1: was good enough for me to finish listening to the host. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll appreciate you listening. Thank you. Um So, first of all,
Speaker 1: I want to to talk about Tavon Austin. There's still
Speaker 1: questioning about him and his growing injury. Jason Garrett today
Speaker 1: said that he'll be getting a second opinion, so there's
Speaker 1: still a pending status as far as his injury. But
Speaker 1: I see on Twitter a lot of talk about this
Speaker 1: wide receiver Amari Cooper from the Raiders and reports of
Speaker 1: maybe would this be an option for the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: make a trade here. So I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: opinion on this. Am bringing out the Louisville Slugger for
Speaker 1: the first five minutes of the show right into No No,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Dave answer. It was such a serious question. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: anytime you're talking about trading for a Pro Bowl player,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a serious issue for sure. Um or
Speaker 1: sensitive A should say, I don't know, I would absolutely
Speaker 1: do it. Do I think the Well, I would absolutely
Speaker 1: do it if the price was right, Marie. Cooper is
Speaker 1: heading into the This is the last year of the
Speaker 1: rookie part of his deal. The next year on his
Speaker 1: deal is the fifth year option that first round picks
Speaker 1: come with. So you be talking about paying him something
Speaker 1: like twelve million dollars I think in twenty nineteen. So
Speaker 1: I think you better think about it, and you better
Speaker 1: be you better think you want to extend him before
Speaker 1: you do it, And then what's the price? I think
Speaker 1: I heard the Raiders are saying they want a first
Speaker 1: round pick. Not no way. Um, maybe yeah if they
Speaker 1: would part with him for a third or maybe a second,
Speaker 1: but probably not. She Hell yeah I would. What did
Speaker 1: they give for klomacy? Like freaking nothing? They got everything
Speaker 1: and nothing? Okay, No, they got they got they got
Speaker 1: two first round picks, but then they gave away their second,
Speaker 1: so they and they, so they swapped. They got a
Speaker 1: first round pick and then they swapp the first and second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they got rid of a generational talent for one
Speaker 1: first and one second basically okay, which is not good
Speaker 1: enough when you're trading a guy like that in my opinion. Well,
Speaker 1: we see what difference he makes to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: The defense had been that good years and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it becomes this really really great defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Dave's right on the on the Mark Cooper thing,
Speaker 1: but I personally, you know how you talk about telling
Speaker 1: people what you would do versus telling people what you
Speaker 1: think will happen. Yeah, I don't think this is a
Speaker 1: kind of deal that cowboys do. This sounds like the
Speaker 1: kind of deal that the Eagles are doing. Last year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: excuse me, where they were going out and they were
Speaker 1: pretty pretty aggressive in going to get guys, either via
Speaker 1: trade or whatever. But this doesn't sound kind of deal
Speaker 1: to Cowboys have typically made over the last So we've
Speaker 1: said all along that Sammy Watkins was their number one
Speaker 1: free agent target. We didn't think that he would make
Speaker 1: a big difference on this team. We didn't think that
Speaker 1: Dez would make a big difference on this team. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're talking about the Raiders have an
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know if it's it's as good,
Speaker 1: but it's been pretty good. Their quarterback is a better
Speaker 1: quarterback I think as a passer than Dak So what's
Speaker 1: the problem with the Mark Cooper? If that's the case
Speaker 1: of me, would he definitely make an you know, impact here?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if if these other guys aren't,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he would. I think Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: sounds like he's having a very deslike season. Derek Carr's
Speaker 1: not playing as well as the contract indicates that he should.
Speaker 1: There's just a whole host of problems there. He's dropping balls,
Speaker 1: he's getting lost in game plans, Defenses are scheming him
Speaker 1: out of the out of things, which I'm not here.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good player or that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be good on this team. But he's got
Speaker 1: troubles of his own and kind of like what we
Speaker 1: talk about with Dez and yes, Sammy Watkins is like
Speaker 1: he is he gonna be the magic pill that fixes
Speaker 1: this offense. I kind of doubt it, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that there's it's like first round grades. You know,
Speaker 1: there's how many first round grades typically are there about
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen something like that. Well that means, you know,
Speaker 1: there's fourteen fifteen guys that are getting picked in the
Speaker 1: first round. They don't have a first round grade. And
Speaker 1: it's the same to me with number one receivers, Well,
Speaker 1: what's the number one receiver? Are there thirty two number
Speaker 1: one receivers in the league. There's like there's like six
Speaker 1: or seven. So there's guy out there that are getting
Speaker 1: paid like number one, drafted like number one, and are
Speaker 1: the number one receiver, but they're not actually playing like
Speaker 1: a franchise player. And I think he's one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think Dez was in that same boat too, So
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're the starting wide receiver on a
Speaker 1: football team, but you're not really a number one. I
Speaker 1: think there's only about ten. Okay, I have a fun
Speaker 1: little game here for you. Then before we start talking
Speaker 1: about the rest Kings. I would do it for a
Speaker 1: third round pick, though, oh I would for if the
Speaker 1: number was right. I mean, and to me, maybe even
Speaker 1: fourth round, like I don't know if I'd get up
Speaker 1: to third, but somewhere in that range. I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair. Well, again, the biggest discussion is, Okay,
Speaker 1: what what wide receiver? Wide receiver you could bring it
Speaker 1: here that could actually make a difference to where it
Speaker 1: would work with Dak and get the offense moving. So
Speaker 1: six to ten that you were just with that being said,
Speaker 1: I want each of you to pick one wide receiver
Speaker 1: you think would absolutely make a difference on this team.
Speaker 1: Obviously this is not realistic at all, but if you
Speaker 1: could choose, doesn't matter of the prize, doesn't matter of
Speaker 1: where the players coming from. Yes, did you watch The
Speaker 1: Happy Hour last night? I did not. Sounds kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds kind of familiar with what we do. You guys
Speaker 1: talked about that, well, we taught it, not not specifically.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a fan that came in
Speaker 1: and basically just wanted us to poach from the Chiefs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just take what you want from the Chiefs. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he was so from the Chiefs. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't know why. This is all around
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I know. But it wasn't a bad
Speaker 1: question because because it all hit positions that you thought,
Speaker 1: you know, that this team would would need. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean and I thought it was good answers by
Speaker 1: you guys too. By the way, it's good. I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna go with the speed game. Okay, So who would
Speaker 1: be your wide receiver? Okay, sorry, let's play the game.
Speaker 1: I got my, I got mine too, good to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give me Michael Thomas from New Orleans. Honestly, uh
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is another guy just because he's such a
Speaker 1: free take two. Sorry, I'll take Michael Thomas, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. Because for this offense, I don't care
Speaker 1: about speed. I don't. That's not to take the top
Speaker 1: off the defense guy. He's not that accurate the further
Speaker 1: down the field that he gets. Michael Thomas is an
Speaker 1: incredible route runner. He's six three. He can box out
Speaker 1: any defensive back in the league. He's a better Dez
Speaker 1: in terms of route running, in terms of catch radius,
Speaker 1: just beating guys off the ball. I think he would
Speaker 1: be great for this offense because this, you know, this,
Speaker 1: ain't this, ain't that high flying throwing the ball eighty
Speaker 1: yards down the field offense anyway, And I think he
Speaker 1: would complement what they want to do perfectly. Okay, the
Speaker 1: reason I say I don't take two is because you're
Speaker 1: taking Hopkins. I would take Hopkins. And the reason I
Speaker 1: take Hopkins is because of all the number one receivers
Speaker 1: in the league, all of all those six to ten
Speaker 1: guys that you mentioned that would be considered number one guys,
Speaker 1: he's the only one I can think of right off
Speaker 1: the top of my head that has been able to
Speaker 1: produce regardless of the quality of the quarterback. And so
Speaker 1: if you have issues about whether you think this quarterback
Speaker 1: is accurate enough or can throw the ball in the
Speaker 1: right place and be able to throw guys open, as
Speaker 1: we hear people say all the time, then DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is the guy you want because he's shown that he
Speaker 1: can do it no matter who the guy is that's
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, he will make that quarterback better. Um
Speaker 1: and So from that standpoint, if you want to put
Speaker 1: somebody in that immediately helps this offense, somebody like DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins can do that. Let's take Antonio Brown might as well.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna play the game, let's just play the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say the other guy in New York,
Speaker 1: but he's a problem, you know, and he always is,
Speaker 1: and and and you know as well as you guys. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that. It's just he's he's the typical wide
Speaker 1: receiver diva. I mean, unbelievable talent, but he's got so
Speaker 1: much distractions. And and if if you know, Elis is
Speaker 1: a problem for him, I'm sure Dak would be too.
Speaker 1: So you know, Antonia, Roethlisberger is great, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get your point about Hopkins, and all of them
Speaker 1: would be good. Antonio Brown's not not a diva. I
Speaker 1: mean no, absolutely, he has a share of m as
Speaker 1: well from him. Yeah, I understand, Yeah, seriously, that position.
Speaker 1: Julio is another guy. Julio's not a diva. I don't know,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Julio is for the same reason
Speaker 1: I like Michael Thomas. Julio does a lot of the
Speaker 1: same stuff. And yeah, I don't He's said like eight
Speaker 1: words in his NFL career. But like Golden Tate, who
Speaker 1: I don't like really, but I love Golden Tate really,
Speaker 1: what did he is? Like? He is like Hind's war
Speaker 1: to me, like he is that tough wide receiver that
Speaker 1: just can do a little bit of everything. I've never
Speaker 1: been a fan um that he. I mean, anybody like
Speaker 1: that would help right now, DeVante Adams would would help.
Speaker 1: I think't Hind isn't a isn't a Golden Tate a
Speaker 1: free agent AF this year? I think he is. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I got a buddy who's an Alliance fan.
Speaker 1: He told me that. Now. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: completely trusted, but he told me he's a free agent
Speaker 1: after this year. What about aj Green? He would be
Speaker 1: pretty good here. What I love is just tamper the
Speaker 1: whole league. Really, let's just get him all with the
Speaker 1: exception of as the commissioners on the TV right there,
Speaker 1: with the exception of Odell and Julio, Like all the
Speaker 1: guys we just named were not super duper premium draft picks.
Speaker 1: Hopkins was picked twenty seven, Thomas was pick forty three,
Speaker 1: forty four Antonio Browns. Tom Brown's a sixth round pick.
Speaker 1: Y man. Gives you a little made of optimism that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could find a guy like that in the
Speaker 1: draft this year. We were on the show last night.
Speaker 1: But I also remember real quick also remember all those
Speaker 1: guys have really, really good quarterbacks. So maybe a function
Speaker 1: of getting a guy later means that you got to
Speaker 1: have the quarterback that can get them the ball and
Speaker 1: make them into much better players. Course, Hopkins has been good,
Speaker 1: You're right, Hopkins has been good with I mean Weedon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's He's the only one I could think of
Speaker 1: off the top of my head that didn't have a
Speaker 1: premium quarterback. Yeah. I think it depends on what show
Speaker 1: show you listen to. If you listen to The Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it sounds like Michael Gallup is not getting used at all.
Speaker 1: And I think because we're on the show last night,
Speaker 1: and and Mickey and and I'm I'm sure Ryan and
Speaker 1: you know, Nate and everybody was like they got to
Speaker 1: get Gallop the ball. Say I agree with that, though,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, it's still a small sample size.
Speaker 1: He's played six games, he's had a couple of moments.
Speaker 1: You know that are good. Right, He's had a couple
Speaker 1: of moments where he hasn't really performed. I mean, I
Speaker 1: still think that's what rookies do, right, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think he's getting a fair amount now.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he'll be nice to see it. But
Speaker 1: then I think that would be a replay of what
Speaker 1: we saw with des and just kind of when you
Speaker 1: try to force the ball to someone and he just
Speaker 1: doesn't work out that way. I'm not saying forced the
Speaker 1: ball to him. I'm saying, maybe give him more reps.
Speaker 1: But right now they got this rotation where they got
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that they're throwing at it. I
Speaker 1: would I would probably shrink that a little bit, and
Speaker 1: maybe that happens out of necessity with you know, sounds
Speaker 1: like it is if Tavon's gonna be out for a while,
Speaker 1: then maybe that that happens just by necessity. But I'd
Speaker 1: just like to see him get more opportunities because I've
Speaker 1: seen him go deep. I've seen him make an athletic
Speaker 1: non catch, but I thought that was a great catch
Speaker 1: non catch. I just think he's got some skill and
Speaker 1: I think you got to develop that he's a young guy.
Speaker 1: Young receivers typically have those moments of good stuff and
Speaker 1: then bad stuff. Receiver is one of those hard positions
Speaker 1: where guys usually don't come in and immediately are great.
Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's take our first break and
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Speaker 1: Football Back to the Break, All right, welcome back. This
Speaker 1: is the second segment up the break. The Cowboys are
Speaker 1: sitting on a nice three and three while the Redskins
Speaker 1: are three and two coming off a win twenty three
Speaker 1: seventeen against the Panthers. So, Dave, let's start talking about
Speaker 1: this offense and what it brings against the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 1: Have you watched the Cowboys play offense this year? Yep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: podcast you're good, you're good, then you're good. You don't
Speaker 1: need you don't need almost, so it's pretty equivalent. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing, really, I mean not really like it's
Speaker 1: I felt like the quarterback has experience, has had more success.
Speaker 1: Lark quarterback is Dak Prescott? Okay, Alex Smith is what
Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott's ceiling? And people people hear that and
Speaker 1: think it's this terrible thing. It's really not Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: It sucks for him that he's always going to be
Speaker 1: compared to Aaron Rodgers. But like he has had a
Speaker 1: damn good career. He has taken two different franchises, you know,
Speaker 1: to the cusp of a Super Bowl. He never got
Speaker 1: to an ANFC title game with the Chiefs, I don't think,
Speaker 1: but they had some prett damn good teams in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: He was a muffed punt away from Super Bowl forty two,
Speaker 1: forty forty six, forty whatever, forty sixty six. I don't
Speaker 1: remember remember a forty nine er guy dropping a punt,
Speaker 1: but Kyle Williams Super Bowl, I remember the game. I
Speaker 1: remember numbers Giants, forty nine ers, two eleven. Anyway, Alex
Speaker 1: Smith has had a very nice career. He protects the football,
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's mobile, very mobile, he can do all
Speaker 1: kinds of that type of stuff. Like I if Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott turns out to be as good as Alex Smith
Speaker 1: as a fourth round pick, it'll be incredible. But so
Speaker 1: they just play similarly. Um the Redskins lean on their
Speaker 1: run game their twelfth in the league. Their pass game
Speaker 1: doesn't leave a lot to be desired. They average two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards per game sometimes not even that good. Um,
Speaker 1: and they're not scoring a ton. They're they're twenty fourth
Speaker 1: and scoring in twenty fourth, in twenty fifth in total offense. Um.
Speaker 1: You see a lot of the same stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: different personnel. So like you know, we talk about how
Speaker 1: we hate the Cowboys commitments to the tight ends. Given
Speaker 1: the tight ends on their team, the Redskins run a
Speaker 1: ton of twelve and thirteen personnel, but it works better
Speaker 1: because their tight ends are better. They got a freak
Speaker 1: in Jordan Read. Got a former first round pick in
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis who definitely found new life when he got
Speaker 1: to Washington. Jordan Read healthy. He's he's playing, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's not asked. He always no. No, that's
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question, well founded. But he's
Speaker 1: he's played every week season or most of them. That's good. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: They also have Nix's guy, Jeremy Sprinkle, underrated little third
Speaker 1: tight end Sprinkle like Arkansas Sprinkle me Woo pig Sue.
Speaker 1: He'll steal a catch. He'll steal a catch or two
Speaker 1: from you if you're not careful. Belk Um Anyway. I
Speaker 1: don't know why we're already talking about Jeremy Sprinkle, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so you see a lot of the same stuff run
Speaker 1: to set up the pass. You know, Adrian Peterson's the
Speaker 1: story here. I shudder to think what this offense would
Speaker 1: look like with Darius Guys if he was healthy. It's
Speaker 1: good for the Cowboys that he's not for this year. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Adrian Thompson too. And that's that's the thing here. Is
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson and um Jamison Crowder really make this thing go.
Speaker 1: In terms of the passing game. I mentioned the tight
Speaker 1: ends and they love to use them, but everything else
Speaker 1: is really pretty mad. Like again, it reminds me of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, like they don't have they don't have a
Speaker 1: bona fide receiver that they trust. Josh Dockson is trending
Speaker 1: toward a bust of a first round pick. Really, is
Speaker 1: it that bad? I mean, he's been hurt for so
Speaker 1: much of his career. He's he makes nice plays and
Speaker 1: he shows the potential for the circus catch. He's just
Speaker 1: hasn't done it on a regular basis. I think he's
Speaker 1: got eight catches this year. Yeah, it ain'try, It's not great.
Speaker 1: M Paul Richardson's the free agent that they brought in
Speaker 1: from Seattle. He'll get behind the defense. He's fast. He
Speaker 1: had a big long touchdown against Green Bay. But again,
Speaker 1: not any kind of consistency. Like the consistency here is
Speaker 1: the tight ends are versatile and can play in line
Speaker 1: and out. And then Jamison Crowder is kind of your
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin for lack of a better comparison. You know,
Speaker 1: he runs underneath, they motion him, they do all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff with him, and then Chris Thompson is your
Speaker 1: web back. The thing is Crowder and Thompson are hurt
Speaker 1: right now. They did not play against the Panthers, and
Speaker 1: it showed. Look they didn't. They didn't look super impressive
Speaker 1: to me. Keep an eye on it. We'll see. I
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't have an answer right now. I
Speaker 1: think they'll start watching the injury report. They're hopeful that
Speaker 1: both will be able to play this week, but we'll see. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it actually when Chris Thompson is there, it
Speaker 1: actually makes Adrian Peterson even better because, yeah, they have
Speaker 1: that compliment to what Adrian Peterson can do. So Chris
Speaker 1: Thompson is I think one of the most underrated players
Speaker 1: in that league. Just he can't stay healthy, which sucks
Speaker 1: for him. Dunbar. Yeah, I mean a much more productive
Speaker 1: lance Dunbar. But very similar when you when you're talking
Speaker 1: about guys like that, I mean, in same with Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin goes all the way back, rocket ismile all the
Speaker 1: way back. Those those guys like that. Yeah, they're really
Speaker 1: good and fast, but just don't let them get hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you look at just go look at NFL players.
Speaker 1: I was taking my family down on the field before
Speaker 1: the game last week and they were just looking that.
Speaker 1: The kids were looking at these mammoth of niggs, mammoth men,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, that's what NFL football is. But
Speaker 1: then you see the little guy and you're like, if
Speaker 1: he takes a hit from this other guy. There are
Speaker 1: sports cards. Yeah, they can win, they can win races,
Speaker 1: but if they get hit, you get hit, it's done it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a loss. Yeah, so um it. Watch Crowder
Speaker 1: and Thompson because their offense changes when those guys are
Speaker 1: in because Crowder gives them that, you know, option for
Speaker 1: the run underneath and the easy pitch and catch. They
Speaker 1: love to wrote and RPO types. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's like watching the Cowboys, like they give to Peterson
Speaker 1: Smith Polls and Crowder's right there on the slant like
Speaker 1: it's a carbon copy of the play that Cole Beasley runs.
Speaker 1: So well, it's the same exact stuff, a lot of
Speaker 1: the same designs, um but Adrian Peterson is the guy
Speaker 1: that it's been flowing through. He looks fantastic. He's averaging
Speaker 1: one hundred yards a game in their wins, and when
Speaker 1: they lose it's because they can't get him on track.
Speaker 1: Like in their wins they've run for one eighty two,
Speaker 1: one sixty six, and one thirty two, and then their
Speaker 1: losses they've run for sixty five and thirty nine, which obviously,
Speaker 1: well you know, causation is not correlation, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I get that, But they're much better when they're eating
Speaker 1: up ardage. And obviously if you're running the ball, it
Speaker 1: means you're not falling behind. Was it last week when
Speaker 1: he sustained the shoulder injury with a shoulder peeped out?
Speaker 1: He played with a shoulder injury in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: that contribute. I mean, they didn't run the ball right
Speaker 1: they did in the second half. He pretty much they
Speaker 1: had stood on the side of the the thirty nine yards
Speaker 1: in the super That was nice. You're watching for fantasy,
Speaker 1: weren't you? Yeah, me too. It was great. I was like,
Speaker 1: keep him on the bench. I was going against him
Speaker 1: that which I was like, yeah. As soon as he
Speaker 1: went out, my wife is like, you're really cheering an injury.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. For the week though, yeah, he
Speaker 1: against it. He looks fine. He played well against Carolina.
Speaker 1: They ran for one thirty two as a team on
Speaker 1: the Panthers, which, if you remember, the Cowboys struggled, so uh.
Speaker 1: And this is a good offensive line. I mean, Brandon
Speaker 1: Sheriff is still there, Trent a good offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: Their left guard running game Moses Um. Their left guard
Speaker 1: Sean Lavaw is dealing with some stuff. So that's another
Speaker 1: thing to watch. But this, like I said, this looks
Speaker 1: a lot like the Cowboys. Like when they can do
Speaker 1: what they want to do, it looks really good they're
Speaker 1: running the ball, and then when they're not, they don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of fallback options. So the big difference
Speaker 1: for me is the tight ends. Because Reid can do everything.
Speaker 1: It's not fair because they're eleven personnel when he looks
Speaker 1: when he's out there, looks way different from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: eleven personnel. He can sit down in zones in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, he can go down the field,
Speaker 1: he can run routes as if he's a receiver. And
Speaker 1: then Vernon Davis only has nine catches on the year,
Speaker 1: but he's averaging sixteen yards per reception. Like defenses just
Speaker 1: lose him and I don't one hundred percent understand why
Speaker 1: because he's a talented player, but it seems like every
Speaker 1: time Malex Smith finds him, he's twenty five yards down field.
Speaker 1: So that's something to watch. And yes, I think Smith
Speaker 1: has at least like six completions of forty yards or
Speaker 1: more so, like he can hit you for the big
Speaker 1: play despite not having that bona fide receiver option. So
Speaker 1: but all things considered, trying to think this is a
Speaker 1: better offense than Jacksonville, but it's not as explosive as
Speaker 1: some of the other like it's not as explosive as
Speaker 1: Detroit or Houston in my opinion. So well, it is
Speaker 1: fair to say that after well hearing your report and
Speaker 1: seeing the Cowboys, I think now I'm speaking Spanish. Sorry,
Speaker 1: after seeing the Redskins offense playing, you would say that
Speaker 1: obviously the Cowboys defense is the better team against the
Speaker 1: Redskins offense. But it is also fair to say that
Speaker 1: after what we saw last weekend against Jacksonville and the
Speaker 1: expectations going into a game plane against the NFL's best
Speaker 1: defense at the time, you saw what happened. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, anything could happen. Therefore, what would be
Speaker 1: the most concerning thing as far as the Redskins offense
Speaker 1: matching up against the Cowboys defense. I like the matchup
Speaker 1: in the run game. I mean, Dallas is a top
Speaker 1: ten in run defense and they haven't just I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, the Seahawks just pounded them, but
Speaker 1: it took them thirty five carries to get to one
Speaker 1: hundred yards. But they didn't Yeah, yeah, no, they were
Speaker 1: averaging like three point two yards per carry um. So
Speaker 1: the Lions did gash them like they didn't give carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson anywhere near enough touch. That's a much better
Speaker 1: passing game, though, right, and those received those three receivers
Speaker 1: that they got in Detroit, probably the third best is
Speaker 1: as good, if not better as the best one in Washington, Right, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I think if you line
Speaker 1: up these six players, right, line them up, Bordles, Eli, Stafford, Watson, Russell, Wilson,
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton, who wins the ray? Who's what? Three
Speaker 1: guys win the race there running just yeah speed, probably Watson, Russell, Wilson,
Speaker 1: probably in Cam Newton. Yeah yeah, so they all won two.
Speaker 1: I mean they all beat the Cowboys. So I think
Speaker 1: that the running part of the quarterback, you know when
Speaker 1: you think about part, yes, just I mean just the
Speaker 1: mobility of it like that, so that that would be
Speaker 1: the one thing that you know, I think we could
Speaker 1: have to worry about you. And that's I mean Alex
Speaker 1: Smith is mobile. They haven't like, they don't use him
Speaker 1: that way, at least they haven't been maybe. I mean
Speaker 1: this is where would you rank his mobility compared to
Speaker 1: these guys that you talked about, not as nineteenth in
Speaker 1: the league. I don't think. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's better as a runner than either of those three. No,
Speaker 1: but he's the guy, he's the guy that yeah he's
Speaker 1: well no, I wasn't gona say that, yeah, because he's
Speaker 1: when they but no, when they when they scout him
Speaker 1: they're not scouting him based upon him being a white quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think the thing about it is he seems to
Speaker 1: be that kind of quarterback that'll catch you, like it's
Speaker 1: a part of the offense for those other guys to run.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's necessarily part of the offense.
Speaker 1: But he will catch you in a in a bad
Speaker 1: situation and before you know it, he's twenty yards down
Speaker 1: the field. That's why he's so damn And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what Dak has been unless the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to use them a little bit more. But Dak will
Speaker 1: definitely catch you as well. But if they're going to
Speaker 1: start running one of those plays but they don't really run,
Speaker 1: they they don't scheme runs for him. But the thing
Speaker 1: and he can do that, which you know, we said
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles could do that too, and he can. The
Speaker 1: other the thing that sucks is, you know, he can
Speaker 1: take a well covered play and just turn into a
Speaker 1: six yard game, and he does that with regularity, just
Speaker 1: because I mean, he's athletics. So what I like, though,
Speaker 1: is I like these two rookie quarters, these two rookie lots.
Speaker 1: I'm not rookie, these two young linebackers that can both run,
Speaker 1: so that helps. I like them for another reason too,
Speaker 1: which is like, yeah, like that's awesome that Sean Lee
Speaker 1: might be able to come back this week. But like Leyton,
Speaker 1: vander Esh sounds like a guy who can help you
Speaker 1: with these tight ends a lot. And so that both
Speaker 1: of them, obviously they're both pretty good in coverage, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that scares me the most.
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't deal well with tight ends in recent history,
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones doesn't do that anymore. So the more
Speaker 1: athleticism to cover at Jordan Reed you have, the better,
Speaker 1: I think, because I that is the mismatch that scares
Speaker 1: me the most with this often just re and Vernon
Speaker 1: Davis like, again, he's he's not a high volume guy,
Speaker 1: but he will break your back if you're not paying
Speaker 1: attention to him. So would you go the option of
Speaker 1: maybe saying I'd rather put a linebacker Vanderesh in this case,
Speaker 1: covering him than I would a safety bring a safety
Speaker 1: down to cover him. Yes, absolutely, because I you know,
Speaker 1: vander Esh said this on the conference call yesterday. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't run with DD Westbrook. I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: I can't, which yeah, obviously, but I think he don't
Speaker 1: know if there are many cornerbacks that run with d
Speaker 1: I think he can run with Jordan Reed and and
Speaker 1: he's not giving up size to him the way that
Speaker 1: a Cavon Frasier or certainly Xavier Woods would. So yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I want I would like that. That's my idea. Let's
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Speaker 1: before you say that, there's also a really important game
Speaker 1: that we're gonna release tomorrow. There's a video. I would
Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of let people know this thing's
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Speaker 1: All right, so, very important game this weekend, and according
Speaker 1: to Nick this might be and a lot of people
Speaker 1: would agree that this might be a very turn decisive
Speaker 1: point in the season, turning point in the season for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now, we keep talking about the road games
Speaker 1: and home games, and as of right now, clearly the
Speaker 1: road games have not been working out for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But we know that Jason Garrett knows how to play
Speaker 1: against the Redskins and kind of figure them out a
Speaker 1: little bit. Why are the expectations going into a road
Speaker 1: game again? And obviously after coming up this kind of win,
Speaker 1: could they keep this going this weekend? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that it is a turning point game if
Speaker 1: they want to turn if they don't if they just
Speaker 1: want to keep going back and forth, then it won't
Speaker 1: be a turning point, and then that'll be a loss.
Speaker 1: I mean if for them to turn this thing and
Speaker 1: you know, upward, then then they're gonna have to win.
Speaker 1: And like you said, I mean, this is a place
Speaker 1: that I think all Division games are like that, where
Speaker 1: you're you're you're familiar with everything. You get there, you
Speaker 1: know exactly what the locker room is, you know exactly
Speaker 1: where the twenty five second play clock is, you know
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. There's a lot of Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans there, so it's it's you know, away from home,
Speaker 1: you're still comfortable being there, and you know, and I
Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys have always just you know, they've
Speaker 1: been a better team than the friend than the Redskins
Speaker 1: for a long time. So um, it helps when you
Speaker 1: go on the road and you're comfortable and you win,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to hope that this time. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're a better team. This this interesting
Speaker 1: thing is even when they haven't necessarily been a better team,
Speaker 1: they've always, like recently in recent history, like it is
Speaker 1: a lopsided affair. Now the games aren't lopside they're close games,
Speaker 1: a lot of them. But for whatever reason, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have managed to win and win consistently against this team,
Speaker 1: whether they're at home or on the road. Eight and
Speaker 1: two since RG three and Alfred Morris swept them in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, five years eight and two amazing five and
Speaker 1: oh at FedEx four No with dak and yeah, shouts
Speaker 1: out to all y'all in the DMV. I know there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of y'all listening to this, Like this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna be a road environment. They're gonna be a ton
Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans like FedEx. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go into hard but like I can just I
Speaker 1: could go for fifteen minutes about all the things I
Speaker 1: don't like about FedEx Field and want to like, sure,
Speaker 1: let's do it. No, it's just it's it's it's out
Speaker 1: of the way. It seems it seems like it's a
Speaker 1: pain to get to and maybe because I mean, the
Speaker 1: Redskins haven't been good and forever uh Redskins fans don't
Speaker 1: really seem to like their franchise that much, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like press box view. The press box
Speaker 1: views the worst in the league, and the food. The
Speaker 1: food is the worst in the league. Stadium. Traveling to
Speaker 1: the stadium is the worst. Like it was built in
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna go all in before. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the cop guy seeing the cause with them with the
Speaker 1: yeah is uncomfortable. And stadium was built in the what nineties?
Speaker 1: Right they played at RFK UP until not that longer
Speaker 1: than nineties? Pretty yeah? Right? Is it not a dump?
Speaker 1: It is a dump, And I'm not gonna go as
Speaker 1: far as it called the stadium a dump. It's a dump.
Speaker 1: But it's shocking that it was built in the nineties.
Speaker 1: It's shocking that it was built the first game was
Speaker 1: like ninety seven or now, I would have thought it
Speaker 1: was as old as like Texas Stadium before four was
Speaker 1: torn down. My view, like when we go to Washington,
Speaker 1: it's it's either rainy or cold. Half their fans don't
Speaker 1: show up or they're wearing ponchos, so you can't tell
Speaker 1: if it's their fans anyway. And then the whole Lower
Speaker 1: Bowl is Cowboys fans from the DMV that are just like,
Speaker 1: we're here to take this thing over. Get ready, So
Speaker 1: I don't want to Cowboys get rolling. You can tell
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to hear about
Speaker 1: the road environment this week, because it's gonna it should
Speaker 1: feel an awful lot like home. I mean, every every
Speaker 1: day when we would look at that chart beat to
Speaker 1: show where our fans that were on the website where
Speaker 1: they're from, it was always like the big stage right there, Texas, California, Florida, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Always those four right like lots of respect to all
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fans in the Philly, New Jersey, New York area,
Speaker 1: Like I know there's a lot of y'all too, but
Speaker 1: I just DMV Cowboys fans, Cowboys country. They are a
Speaker 1: special breed of passionate. It seems like like all the
Speaker 1: craziest people I hear from seems like they're from that area. Yep,
Speaker 1: there's a question from Bulldocks to you, do you guys
Speaker 1: see our offense running as many naked boot boots as
Speaker 1: we did last week? Seems like the defense is a
Speaker 1: really keen on in on that now either way. I mean,
Speaker 1: whatever it is to kind of get him in space
Speaker 1: and let him roll out there, whether whether it's the
Speaker 1: run pass option, whether it's the bootlegs, just get him
Speaker 1: out there like that. And make them think about it,
Speaker 1: because I think he can. He can, you know, he
Speaker 1: needs to kind of make that decision. A little earlier.
Speaker 1: There was a play where he got the first down.
Speaker 1: He was rolling to the right, there was a linebacker
Speaker 1: chasing him. He was still looking to throw, looking to throw.
Speaker 1: I think when he gets out there like that, he
Speaker 1: needs to run. He needs to take off when he
Speaker 1: gets out there, unless there's a guy just streaking down
Speaker 1: the field. Because you know, he eventually got the first down,
Speaker 1: but I think that he needs to look at it
Speaker 1: more like talking about Dak move the chains, move the chains.
Speaker 1: When you get out there and you see it, it's open,
Speaker 1: go take go get it, and let's let's get a
Speaker 1: first down. Here he was looking down the field and
Speaker 1: that's that's just something that's got to be a feel
Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks or if there's a way that you
Speaker 1: can like fake the defense out on that, because it
Speaker 1: has worked at times. But I think at least once
Speaker 1: a game he gets blown up trying to run, like
Speaker 1: it happened against Jacksonville. Like as good as the offense looked,
Speaker 1: he turned around and I think it was in Goguay
Speaker 1: was like right there to give him a bear hug,
Speaker 1: and it definitely happened. You know, Carolina sniffed all that
Speaker 1: stuff out, so did Seattle. I wonder if there's a
Speaker 1: way you can misdirect, like run a different play off
Speaker 1: of that look, because it's obviously a look that defenses
Speaker 1: are familiar. That play has a ton of options built
Speaker 1: into it, you know. So so yeah, it may be
Speaker 1: that they're not doing the other things enough to where
Speaker 1: teams are like, hey, we know if we just play
Speaker 1: the percentages you go get Dak, you're gonna cut it
Speaker 1: off most of it. When you're in this formation and
Speaker 1: the receiver's motioning, we know you're doing that boot where
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a guy five yards away like that,
Speaker 1: they see it coming. So that's kind of like them
Speaker 1: running when they take a wide receiver and motioned him
Speaker 1: down into the box, like every single time, maybe once
Speaker 1: or twice this season them not run, but almost all
Speaker 1: the time they run. I bet, I bet we'll see that.
Speaker 1: Here's another question from Twitter. There have been we've seen
Speaker 1: three explosive plays too tight ends. Should the passing attack
Speaker 1: focus on them more instead of the wide receivers. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of that. Just folks, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think that these are tight ends that are like,
Speaker 1: you know, guys that you just have to focus on
Speaker 1: and say we got to get them the football. I
Speaker 1: think they're more of a product of what's open and there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think swam gathers. You know, they're pretty athletic. They
Speaker 1: can make some plays, but I don't think you've forced
Speaker 1: the ball to them. I don't think that type of guy.
Speaker 1: These are sorry, go ahead, good, these are these plays
Speaker 1: are literally designed to like sneak the tight end out
Speaker 1: of the trash, like Rico snuck behind the whole defense
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. But the play everybody talks
Speaker 1: about when Dak got sacked by j J. Watt, they
Speaker 1: could have won the game because Blake Jarwin, you know,
Speaker 1: fake blocked eight yards downfield and just snuck down the sideline.
Speaker 1: Like why they're designing these plays so that the tight
Speaker 1: ends can be open because they're an afterthought. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that translates to scheming your offense around them
Speaker 1: like that, like Jordan Reid. I mean, when you are
Speaker 1: a big, physical freak who can block adequately and run
Speaker 1: routes like a receiver, you can do that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cowboys have that guy. Not
Speaker 1: only that, but if you're going to scheme somebody open,
Speaker 1: I'd rather scheme somebody open that when they get the
Speaker 1: ball in their hands they have the ability to do
Speaker 1: more with it than just kind of what it is like.
Speaker 1: I don't think the tight ends are necessarily the best
Speaker 1: run after catch options the Cowboys have, And to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't know they have a lot of great run
Speaker 1: after catch options, but I would if I'm going to
Speaker 1: scheme somebody open, I'm looking to scheme somebody open that
Speaker 1: when they get the ball in their hands they can
Speaker 1: actually make more of it thens there. Yeah, Now, after seeing,
Speaker 1: after hearing about the Redskins offense and all that, what
Speaker 1: defensive guy would you expect to have the best game
Speaker 1: this weekend to play the best this weekend defensive guy
Speaker 1: for the Redskins? Now from the Boys, Okay, I would
Speaker 1: Betterers kept it up. Yeah. Between between Adrian Peterson and
Speaker 1: and these tight ends, I think they both Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot to worry about here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the quarterback running and that's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to running. You know, these are famous last words because
Speaker 1: I I slandered Keenan Allen for a week last year
Speaker 1: and he made me eat every word of that. But
Speaker 1: I like Byron. I like these cornerbacks against their receivers
Speaker 1: like I don't. I'll be surprised if these receivers just
Speaker 1: eat them for lunch. How much do you worry though,
Speaker 1: that the best option they have at wide receivers a
Speaker 1: slot guy in the weakest point of your cornerbacks is
Speaker 1: the slot. I don't know that I'm ready to concede that.
Speaker 1: I'm really really well the Anthony Brown's better than Cheeto
Speaker 1: or as of right now, it's Jordan Lewis anyway, like
Speaker 1: we I gotta. I mean, Cheeto hasn't played in two
Speaker 1: weeks so and I think Jordan Lewis has played really
Speaker 1: well in those opportunities. So I'm I'm okay, I feel
Speaker 1: all right, We'll see, But that's not that's my point.
Speaker 1: You're right, it's still the weak point. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. That doesn't bother you, that that doesn't
Speaker 1: make you concerned at all. They've been better about rallying
Speaker 1: to plays since what happened against Detroit, So oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling I feel all right, right, Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's something worth keeping an eye on. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I know if if I would say I'm worried,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: I mean, none of these receivers are are guys I
Speaker 1: think that will just absolutely kill you, or they haven't
Speaker 1: in a lot of the games that Cowboys have played.
Speaker 1: They some of them have pretty good games here and there,
Speaker 1: but they have just killed you, like it wasn't a
Speaker 1: situation where you just can't do anything with them, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's worth worrying, but I do
Speaker 1: think it's something to keep an eye on. That'll be
Speaker 1: a matchup that I will look at a lot. Carolina
Speaker 1: didn't have those receivers really either, and Seattle had some
Speaker 1: pretty good guys, I mean some speed guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyler Lockett's any better necessarily than Crowder.
Speaker 1: So I just think that you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: watch those speeds. Well, I was talking. I wasn't talking
Speaker 1: about the previous teams they've played, talking about when they've
Speaker 1: played the Redskins with this contingent of receiver, right right,
Speaker 1: I just I'm just saying that you know, just because
Speaker 1: you don't have one of those elite receivers doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that this team hasn't given up some some plays. We
Speaker 1: have a I disagree with you a little bit though,
Speaker 1: especially when Kirk Cousins was here and DeShawn Jackson. I mean,
Speaker 1: are you going way back? Not really? That was twenty sixteen. Kirk.
Speaker 1: We know you're not very good with time. See Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins in the two games in Washington, in the two games,
Speaker 1: in the two games the Cowboys beat Washington in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins average like four hundred yards per game and
Speaker 1: was just taken deep shot after deep shot, and um,
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson can do that. Josh Dockson can't too. But
Speaker 1: they just they don't. They haven't been doing it often,
Speaker 1: so it scares me a little bit less. So maybe
Speaker 1: they'll break that out this week. It's something to watch.
Speaker 1: But I still like Sean Ain't there anymore? Need his
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I like what I like Byron in that matchup,
Speaker 1: and I can go I like him too. Swbert Connell's
Speaker 1: not there either, And I know Michael Westbrook and what
Speaker 1: about Santana Moss Albert Connell. That is a name I
Speaker 1: have not heard way back a long time. Art Monk
Speaker 1: Art Monk. He is still there, He is still there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see him in the press box with Doug Williams
Speaker 1: in their cheering press box. Yep. If we went to
Speaker 1: Oakland on a regular basis, that would be my least
Speaker 1: favorite trip. But we don't, so it's FedEx. It's just well,
Speaker 1: it's the worst as in probably two or three years.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders trip will probably be one of
Speaker 1: your favorites. So yeah, you're probably right about the Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, very very fun conversation. Their interesting topic. We'll
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