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Speaker 2: Reister or am I Row. We're bringing you facts and

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Speaker 1: Now, am I Reister or am I Row.

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Speaker 2: I'm George Reister. He's Ralph Amson. And you know, this

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Speaker 2: is the PAC twelve Apostles, the final season, not the

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Speaker 2: final season of us talking about college football and all whatnot.

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Speaker 2: at PAC twelve Apostles and yeah, so here we are. Now.

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Speaker 2: The last two episodes we have covered the the PAC

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Speaker 2: twelve demolition derby that has happened, but we will this episode.

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Speaker 2: We're going to cover that just a teeny tiny bit

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Speaker 2: and get to the previews for because we are what

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Speaker 2: what is it? August sixteenth? We are ten days away

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Speaker 2: from football games, which is amazing. But to like backtrack

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Speaker 2: conference is broken apart. Stanford, cal Washington State and cal Stanford,

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Speaker 2: Washington State and Oregon State don't have a home yet.

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Speaker 2: They are searching vigorously and furiously to find a place

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Speaker 2: to land and to live and that is going to

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Speaker 2: be financially responsible. They have hired a consultant in Oliver

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Speaker 2: they believed that they hired the wrong man now, since

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Speaker 2: because yeah, it seems like the PAC twelve has hired

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and and that's been one of the really

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Speaker 1: hiring Miles Finch as a consultant. So he's like, my

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Speaker 1: But that's just what it reminds me of. It was like,

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Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, the PAC twelve hired Fleischmann Hilliard, a

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Speaker 2: Should we change businesses and be like, yeah, we're going

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Speaker 1: I will fail. Four hundreds of thousands of dollars. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: much PAC twelve content as we consume read podcasts all

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Speaker 1: Uh? I you know, I think that the general public

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Speaker 1: you have John Canzano coming out and saying like, hey,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, how they accepted it the night before.

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Speaker 1: Right, And then you have Jason Sheer saying I don't

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Speaker 2: Because it's funny because Oregon seems to be very DGF

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Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing is that the Arizona Schools, the

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Speaker 1: Do you believe do you honestly believe that all nine

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Speaker 3: How it was like stalling you out?

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Speaker 2: Bro? It was the slow death. And that's where the

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Speaker 3: If you remember that, because.

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Speaker 2: When you find a way to make people more money,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not George experts on it. It's That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, I mean like we want Damn reversus notre dame.

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Speaker 2: Now you sometimes you overplay your hand, and they overplayed

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Speaker 1: So could we move forward with one year of a

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Speaker 2: To I mean, I guess technically you could. But who

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Speaker 2: How and I'm talking about like every single sport, not

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Speaker 3: How are you gonna find six other games?

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Speaker 2: Yep, so you might have to have some pay.

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Speaker 1: What about Okay, So I think it's the dumbest thing

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Speaker 1: fifty sixties grew up Catholic. The loyalty is generational, and

437
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: there's a reason that they can be on NBC, and

438
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: there's a reason that they can get that money directly.

439
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: People talk about Stanford going independent. I don't get it

440
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna give your broadcasts a way for free

441
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: so that people will actually watch. Stanford doesn't have a

442
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: loyal audience base. It's why it was not included in

443
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: the conferences trying to break apart to pack twelve exactly,

444
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: so what Stanford can't be independent, that's not even an

445
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: option on the table for them. They have to be

446
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: packaged with cal And now you have the Mountain West

447
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: is starting to wage a campaign to absorb at the

448
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: very least Washington State and Oregon State. You had Wyoming's

449
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: basketball coach come out this week and say the Mountain

450
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: West is actually a better hoops conference than the Pac

451
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: twelve was. They got eight teams into the tournament in

452
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: the last two years to pack twelve when they got seven,

453
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: and adding Oregon State and Washington State would only make

454
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: the Mountain West that much more of a force in basketball.

455
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: So you already have people trying to pick at the

456
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: bones and advocate. And what I don't want for the

457
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: remaining Pack twelve teams to pack four is for them

458
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: to get drunk on the idea that they have any

459
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: type of leverage.

460
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you thinking.

461
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: You had any type of leverage is the reason you're homeless.

462
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they have leverage with the AAC a little.

463
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Bit, but with the Mountain West, the Mountain West ain't

464
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: even there, like all right, bro, Like they they are

465
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: operating from a position of strength because their teams can't leave.

466
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: It's two costs prohibitive to to leave right now.

467
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: And no one in the Mountain West is scared like

468
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: you had you had. Robert Turpin, former Utah State running

469
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: back on your show just a couple of nights ago,

470
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: and you asked him if adding Oregon State in Washington

471
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: State would be bad for Utah State because it just

472
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: knocked them further, uh from from from the top of

473
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: the pile in the Mountain West. And he was like, no, man,

474
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: those are two solid ladder runs for us to climb

475
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: like that. Nobody, nobody in the Mountain West is worried.

476
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: They say, if we get you, we get you. We've

477
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: been getting you in out of conference games anyway.

478
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, now on to the business that had

479
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: because we are ten days away from football.

480
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Hooray.

481
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, don't be a fuddy duddy man.

482
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: That's some excitement.

483
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: So the first AP pole came out and my immediate reaction,

484
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: of course, as an Oregon fan, I'm like, really, really,

485
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: bra really.

486
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna stop real quick. Is this the PAC

487
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: twelve's make a Wish season?

488
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh? The to to it actually sucks because this is

489
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: the best the PAC twelve has been in quite some time. Yes,

490
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: and they're getting national respect.

491
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Is this a trip to Disneyland before? Do you see

492
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying?

493
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that that the Pac twelve is terminally ill,

494
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: and now that they're gonna get a chance to run

495
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: on the field with all their fabort.

496
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be a good ass time. Like

497
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: this is the most excited I've ever been for a

498
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: PAC twelve season, but also it's the end. Yeah, that's

499
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: what I was thinking about this morning. I was like,

500
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: is this our make a wish year?

501
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: Damn? So you got USC at six behind Georgia Michigan.

502
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Georgia schedule is shit, so so is Michigan's. It's gross.

503
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Uh poll are you looking at right now?

504
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: The ap pole?

505
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Okay?

506
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: So you got uh Georgia. So you got USC at six,

507
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: Washington at ten, Utah at fourteen, Oregon at fifteen, Oregon

508
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: State at eighteen. So you got five PAC twelve teams

509
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: inside the top eighteen, four inside the top fifteen, and

510
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: two in the top ten.

511
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: And UCLA at twenty eight.

512
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah this ain't bad, brother to say bad, But the

513
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: problem is that as soon as games start getting played

514
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: and conference games start getting played, oh my god, they've

515
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: had twelve, they they're ruining their chances because there are

516
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: so many good teams. So there is going to be

517
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: some attrition as opposed to a team like Georgia. Who

518
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: where Georgia, Alabama, and LSU are in the same you

519
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: know conference. Guess how many of those teams? Uh, well, Georgia,

520
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you Georgia doesn't play Bama.

521
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: They don't play LSU.

522
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: And and you're you're like, hold up, they do play Tennessee.

523
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: They're like, hold up, how the hell.

524
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Are is this team supposed to be the national champions

525
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: and all this stuff?

526
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: And they do play Ole Miss.

527
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: So they have two teams that came in ranked in

528
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: the top twenty five on their schedule two and then

529
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: their non conference games are against U T. Martin Ball State,

530
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: UAB and Georgia Tech.

531
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: It's good to be king. I can't all this stuff

532
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: is set for in advance.

533
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: So oh, don't get me.

534
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh god that like like Georgia hasn't been recruiting at

535
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: a high level.

536
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: But it also this this this was set prior to

537
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Georgia winning two national championships.

538
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, but not prior to Georgia being but not prior

539
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: to Georgia being one of the top recruiting ranking schools

540
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: in the country every year.

541
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm with you, I'm with you.

542
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Yep. So Georgia is absolute bums for this schedule. It

543
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: is embarrassing. But we got packed twelve business to handle,

544
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: pack twelve business to handle because we don't play no

545
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: games in this final season.

546
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do it, then do it big.

547
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: Does it bother you that the AP pole is the

548
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: exact same as the PAC twelve preseason media poll, Like

549
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: the top six that're all in the top twenty eight

550
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: are in the exact same order.

551
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: No, No, because it doesn't.

552
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother you the Oregan's fourth side of any

553
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: motivation that it might bring your ducks. No, you feel

554
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: like it's a little.

555
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: It's it's it's weak.

556
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: But because they would have no problem putting all four

557
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: SEC teams in the top ten if it were the

558
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: same situation. None. But you know, these non conference things,

559
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: these non conference games have to get done. Washington cannot

560
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: lose to Michigan State. They cannot, under any circumstances lose

561
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: to Michigan State. That would be a disaster. And they

562
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: can't lose to Boise State either. How about that? How

563
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: about that.

564
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Non conference is as important as it's ever been for

565
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: the whole conference this year.

566
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the USC is not going to have any problem

567
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: with their first two games, or they shouldn't with San

568
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Jose State and then Nevada, Oregon State has San Jose State,

569
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: U See Davis and San Diego State, So you know,

570
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: if they if all of these teams are undefeated coming

571
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: out of the non conference, you're gonna have four PAC

572
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: twelve teams in the in the top twelve by the

573
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: time Week four rolls around. That's important.

574
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: That's important, Yang yang yang, I'll take it.

575
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: So we wanted to go through the teams and and

576
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: we usually and Ralph taught me that the best way

577
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 2: to do this was alphabetical order.

578
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: So oh god, we still haven't learned it and we

579
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: don't have to learn it because the conference died.

580
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: So yep. So well, actually, first thing, who do you

581
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: predict will win the back twelve this year?

582
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Ah? It's interesting because well.

583
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Well, I should say the two teams that play in

584
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: the conference game and your winner.

585
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's interesting because I'm seeing different picks from

586
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: all over the place, like like people who you think

587
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: would be in the know aren't even like close. I think,

588
00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: uh was Canzano has like Oregon State and will Washington

589
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: and the college football playoff playing against Utah. It's it's

590
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: been really really interesting to go from. But but I

591
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: think everybody wants there to be some type of surprise

592
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: this year.

593
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: And to me, yeah, everybody wouldn't it. Wouldn't it be

594
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: great if Oregon State won it?

595
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, yes, it would be like there

596
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: would be a million reasons to be excited about that,

597
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: a million reasons. But to me, it's still Talent is destiny.

598
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: And I get that this is a quarterback league or whatever,

599
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: but there's a full roster. There's a full roster that

600
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: you have to account for. It's very simple to me

601
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: when I look at it. This is Oregon and USC Yep,

602
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Why why tinker? Why try to get cute? Why try

603
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: to be the one with them?

604
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: We're going to have a replay for the PAC twelve championship.

605
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be Oregon Washington or Oregon U s E?

606
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: And either either way give me the ducks.

607
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit I'm and this isn't to appease you,

608
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't care. I'm a little bit

609
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: confused by the Washington hype.

610
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

611
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: I mean?

612
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: They're there, their offense is outstanding, Michael Pennix junior is

613
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: is special. Their wideouts are really good. They got a

614
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: first round wide out on there. Now, I do think

615
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: their defense is going to be a troublesome. It's gonna

616
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: be a trouble point because it just has been and

617
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: that's not Kaylin de Boor's mo o and I and

618
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: I think that it's going to bother Washington fans a

619
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: little bit because they were used to this defense being

620
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: like their their thing, you know what I mean, Like

621
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: we're dB We're one of the DBU's, we.

622
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: Are special on defense.

623
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: So I think that that's gonna be a little bit

624
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: of an emotional getting used to for Washington fans.

625
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: And not like not to get ahead of ourselves or whatever,

626
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: because we're gonna go team by team on this. But

627
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: I look at this Washington team, I'm like, Oh, they

628
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: really could win ten games. Yeah here and other people

629
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: be like if they lose a game, it's a disappointment. Well,

630
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: first of all, we gotta get away from that completely

631
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: because they're gonna lose it.

632
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: And starting next season they will lose more. I mean

633
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: that's that's not to say they can't win the Big

634
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Ten or something like that, but I'm just saying when

635
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: like you, you are destined to lose more when your

636
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: competition is better. Like there's if like the Big Ten

637
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: playing nine conference games next year is going to be

638
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 2: rougher because you are going to get your your three

639
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: West Coast teams, which are elite, and then you're gonna

640
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: get like there's no like that. You're not gonna avoid Michigan,

641
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Penn State. You're you're not gonna avoid

642
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: all three of those. So so, so you're gonna have

643
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: at least five ranked teams on your schedule probably, bro. Yes,

644
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: And they're talking about the gauntlet. Bro, that's the real gauntlet.

645
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: That that's gonna be the gotcha, gotcha.

646
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: So I'm locking it in USC Oregon. You're locking it

647
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: in same.

648
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go USC Oregon. I

649
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: think it's that they play early in the season. They

650
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: played early enough in the season that a good game

651
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: could be that then they both finished undefeated. Well, one

652
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: finishes undefeated, one finishes with one one loss, or they

653
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: both have one loss headed into the conference championship, and

654
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 2: that one is for all the marbles for a trip

655
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: to the conference to the college football playoffs.

656
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: You think we get both quarterbacks on the Heisman stage.

657
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's definitely possible that two pack twelve

658
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are on the Heisman stage.

659
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't bring three, no, because sometimes they're only

660
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: four player total. But it would be pretty fun if

661
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: it was.

662
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 2: Just all past twelve twel what did what did you say?

663
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Make a wish season? Yeah?

664
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Dream big?

665
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: Hey we are we are coining that on Twitter makes

666
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: and we got to put the little trademark pac twelve

667
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: make a wish season things.

668
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: When someone tries to cancel us for it, I'm not

669
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: even gonna say cancel culture, just be like, yeah, you're right.

670
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, So let's go with Utah. Let's let's

671
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: start actually, yeah, let's start with Utah.

672
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: Lets just start with the letter you all right, whatever,

673
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: we can do whatever we want.

674
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So this year they are returning Cam Rising.

675
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he's he appears to be healthy now.

676
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: And this is a team that has won the conference

677
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: the last two seasons despite not necessarily being you know,

678
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: as sexy as you would like to like them to

679
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: be in the recruiting rankings, all of that. But Andy

680
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: Ludwig their officer coordinator has done an incredible job.

681
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: They obviously lost.

682
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinka, who is a member of who the Buffalo

683
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: bill is.

684
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: Now and getting the most hype of anyone in the

685
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: history of NFL rookies. Like they're calling him Travis Kelsey.

686
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to actually play meaningful games

687
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: because it is getting out of control, the Dalton kin

688
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Kid hype in the Northeast.

689
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, bro, it is. It is insane how how

690
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: much it is. But they are like this team has been.

691
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: Last year, they ranked what eleventh in scoring at thirty

692
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: eight point six points per game total often was in

693
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: the top twenty in the country yards per play twenty three.

694
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: This this team, and I believe that their defense that

695
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: was young last year is going to be better. This

696
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: is going to be a good Utah defense. And I

697
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: know that we didn't even mention them in the in

698
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: the in terms of winning the conference, and we probably

699
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: should have because at what point in time can we

700
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: discount Utah the back to back champions?

701
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Right now? When I do it right now? They have

702
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: a very hard schedule.

703
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: So they play Florida and then Baylor. Yes, will they

704
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: win both of those games? No?

705
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: They're beating both Florida and the Vegas on. Utah is

706
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I have them as an eight win.

707
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: Team, so that means that they believe that they will

708
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: lose to probably USC Oregon, Washington.

709
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: And either Florida or Baylor or Oregon State or U

710
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: C l A.

711
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Or they're they're they're counting on that. Splitting the money, bro,

712
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: that's tough. I think they're an eight win team. I

713
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: think it's hard to stay at the top of the

714
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: mountain like that we have. We haven't seen a lot

715
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: of Pac twelve teams actually even do that. Cam Rising

716
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: has is three ACL tears deep. By my count, he's

717
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: tore both his a CL and some cadavers a c

718
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: L at this point. I think he missed his senior

719
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: season in high school. I think he he had the

720
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: transition year from Texas to Utah, and I think it

721
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: happened again last year. That's not to say that I

722
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen again. I just think that's a

723
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: lot of wear and tear on the body. BYU fans

724
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: who hate that Cam Rising gets any hype whatsoever have

725
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: pointed out that he only has one win ever in

726
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: an out of conference game against a Power five opponent.

727
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: Damn.

728
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: So you know that's tough. But there are things about

729
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: this Utah team that I like. Obviously, they're bringing back

730
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: some tight end talent, offensive and defensive line should be solid.

731
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: Coach Shaw didn't go to prison, only his wife did,

732
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: so the secondary remains strong. Well, first of all, I'm

733
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: not even being cruel or incendiary. His wife took a

734
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: plea deal, and the speculation on Real Housewives of Salt Lake,

735
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: which I highly recommend to any back twelve fan, was

736
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: that that it was possible that that plea deal was

737
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: to to to stop anybody else from you know, that

738
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: it was possible that the district attorney was maybe threatening

739
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: further indictments. I think Coach Shaw's the coolest guy in

740
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: the entire world. I don't think he had anything to

741
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: do with swindling old people out of money. But his

742
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: wife's going to jail and serving time with Elizabeth Holmes,

743
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: and I'm dead series about this. I think without Coache Shaw,

744
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I think that secondary falls apart. That's how good of

745
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: a coach I think he is. Is it scandalous to

746
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: bring that up? It's just the truth. I don't I

747
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: don't know what else to say here. So I think

748
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: that that Utah is going to be solid all around.

749
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I do not believe that they have the playmaking ability

750
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: uh if if they get down.

751
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: To Yeah, but they added Micah. They added uh, this

752
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: is his name, Michaeh. Pittman.

753
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: Everybody has had Micah Pittman. Everybody has added him for

754
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: a year and they had though.

755
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: He is good. And I think their biggest weapon on

756
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 2: offense besides quarterback is going to be ja Quindon Jackson,

757
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: the former quarterback who's now running back. Yeah.

758
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks. He looks like he's going to be

759
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: really good.

760
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Do you think.

761
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the deal. They're so front loaded on

762
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: this schedule. They open with Florida and then they have Baylor.

763
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: They got the in state with with Weaver State, so

764
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: that's not just gonna be your typical cupcake. They're gonna

765
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of them, but it's it's gonna

766
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: take a little bit out of them. Then they got

767
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: to turn right around host UCLA, go to reser host

768
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: col and then go to USC host Oregon, host Arizona State,

769
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: and then Washington. They have like two guaranteed wins in

770
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: their first ten games.

771
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they have some tough stretches like that, like

772
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: that October twenty first USC then Oregon, then Arizona State

773
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: in Washington. Bro, that's gonna be a nightmare. And then

774
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: I think, I think Arizona ain't even Arizona ain't laying down.

775
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: No, especially because you gotta go to Tucson for that

776
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: and that can always be tough. But I believe this, George,

777
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Like this is my bold Utah prediction six and four

778
00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: going into that Arizona game. Oh up Arizona, they clean

779
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: up Colorado.

780
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm mad at unafraidshow dot com. I'm mad at Unafraid

781
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: show dot com. And you can give Ralph your thoughts.

782
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: I got a lot of Utah followers in the last

783
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I'm sure that they're they're not gonna

784
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: enjoy it. But I I I tell you what, if

785
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: they're eight and two going into those last two games,

786
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: then I will apologize. But I I it's such a

787
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: tough schedule. I don't think it's their fault. I don't

788
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: think it's their fault. The schedule is.

789
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: Oh you think that everybody else is just so damn good?

790
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: No, I just I think it's the luck of the draw.

791
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: I think in the same way that you were, like

792
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: Georgia randomly ended up with like the most cupcake schedule

793
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: ever and with who they're missing, I think the exact

794
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: opposite is happening to.

795
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Utah Utah and I.

796
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody's gonna be at fault for it.

797
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: I think the offense is gonna look good at times.

798
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in Andy Ludwig. I think the defense,

799
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I think. I think they're gonna be physical. I think

800
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be solid. And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong,

801
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: but you know, they're replacing Clark Phillips, they're replacing Dalton

802
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Kincaid like they they're not. It's not like they didn't

803
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: lose players. And I know we talk about this every

804
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: year that they just reload, but this sustained development, it's

805
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna be really tough. And they also have to get

806
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: used to playing some new offenses, new coaches, stuff that

807
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: they might not be used to. I just think it's

808
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some hard knocks. Eight and four is

809
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: where I have them.

810
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: That's tough. Now on to the Washington Huskies. The Huskies

811
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: who people are excited about. A bunch of people have

812
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: them inside their top ten. Last year, their only losses

813
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: were to UCLA Arizona State. Was kind of surprising, but yeah,

814
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: they had a lot of high scoring games. They scored

815
00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: a qatrillion points. Are you bullish on them this season

816
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: because they play Boise, Tulsa, Michigan State. This is a

817
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: good non conference schedule at Michigan State. How do you

818
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: feel about their non conference schedule that starts on September.

819
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Second, I think that it's solid enough. It's solid enough

820
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: that if they actually do go on the in conference

821
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: run that people are thinking that it could influence people

822
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: to say that they would have maybe done enough if

823
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: they go eleven and one gets to play in a

824
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: pactoral championship, that they could get a spot somewhere else.

825
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: The Vegas Insiders over under on wins is nine and

826
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: a half. Seems like everybody's taking the over on that.

827
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: George, Yeah, see the wild card to meet so Boise

828
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: State's always tough, right, but I think that Washington physically

829
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: overmatches them. Same thing with Michigan State's the wild card.

830
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: They lost their quarterback Taylor Lawork to the transfer portal

831
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: they are. They play at Arizona, at Stanford at USC,

832
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: so USC's gonna be oh and at Oregon State in

833
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: November at Oregon State, so that's gonna be a foggy

834
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: game at night, probably on ESPN like an eight o'clock

835
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: like seven or Fox Sports wonted like an eight o'clock kickoff,

836
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: So Oregon State USC could get sketchy. I'm sorry, Yeah, USC,

837
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: Oregon State could get sketchy. Hell they got Utah to

838
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: or bro. Their schedule is tough.

839
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a really good like set.

840
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: At nine and a half, I think they can finish

841
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: the season maybe ten and three, so I I I'll

842
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: take over. The interesting thing about them is they scored

843
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: on everybody last year, right, they scored on everybody, but

844
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: starting in Week three last year, here's what they gave

845
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: up twenty eight, twenty two, forty forty five, thirty nine,

846
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty one, thirty four. Like they everybody scored

847
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: on them, even even Washington State, who they dropped fifty

848
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: one on, got thirty three.

849
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got.

850
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: Three wins last year where they lost the turnover battle.

851
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: She sh that's not typical.

852
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: No, so it if they're taking care of the football

853
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: and the defense improves, then they should be able to

854
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: replicate what they did last year, right, which was what

855
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: an eleven wins season?

856
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

857
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have to improve in both of those areas,

858
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: will they? That's that's really the big Yeah to me,

859
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: that that's really really the big thing, because the defense

860
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: fell off and they didn't always protect the ball. They

861
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: didn't always protect the ball. They had I think a

862
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: streak of five consecutive games where there was no turnover

863
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: margin and one of those they lost to Arizona State.

864
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: So they didn't force a lot of turnovers last year either.

865
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: So a lot of people think as Michael Pennix goes,

866
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: they go. But he can only do so much. Is

867
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: he gonna throw for forty six hundred yards again?

868
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: Yes he will? Like That's the thing is that, yes

869
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: he will. In Kalin the Boars offense, he will. Like

870
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: That's not even a debate to me because their quarterback

871
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: in Fresno State did it multiple years.

872
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Gosh, as an Arizona State fan and an Arizona State

873
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: oflum you know what scares me most about this schedule

874
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: what the idea that Washington could be like ten and

875
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: zero going into a November game at research late November game.

876
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough, bro, because that's a scary that's a

877
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: scary game because it's going to be a night game.

878
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be a night game, and

879
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be foggy. Yeah, yep. And you can find.

880
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: You've been victimized by the same thing, haven't you.

881
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that.

882
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Your memory is foggy.

883
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes, my memory is foggy.

884
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: All right, Onto the USC Trojans.

885
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: Number ten. Oh well, they are inside the top ten.

886
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: They are number six in the a peopole. The raining

887
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: defending Heisman Trophy winner, the greatest quarterback prospect that we've

888
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: ever seen in the history of life, the man who

889
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: admitted that his nails was probably not a great idea,

890
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: who has been fantastic. Get this unbelievable, The Superman of

891
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: all Superman's Caleb Williams.

892
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 3: Now can he play defense? Though?

893
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, man, because UCLA or USC gets to

894
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: go and pick who their players are. You know that

895
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: PAC twelve All Conference list comes out and USC boosters

896
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: just look at the second team and they're like, all right,

897
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: let's get to work.

898
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: They're like Yeah, let's get all these second teamers and

899
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: bring them over here.

900
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: Here's the best part the hype that you just gave,

901
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, you weren't being sarcastic at all. No, and

902
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: everything I just said about USC, neither am I It's true.

903
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: They are Like if rules were in place to actually

904
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: like regulate the transfer portal, USC might be in hell

905
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: right now. They might have they might have more sanctions

906
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: than they had when how.

907
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: About their their transfers that they're notable transfers, Christian Roland

908
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: Wallace who's one of Ralph's favorite players because he has

909
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: a hyphenated name out of Arizona, Mason Cobb from Oklahoma State,

910
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: the linebacker who's a good player, Bear Alexander from Georgia. Right,

911
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: that's just on the defense. And then they got what

912
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: they stole Washington State's line ming Jared Kinston Kingston. And

913
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: they got Dorian Singer from Arizona because they raided Arizona.

914
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 3: Who is oh and the.

915
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Dorian Singer thing is even funny because Kayleb Williams at

916
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: pack to a media day said that during the game

917
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: he looked at his coaches and said, are we going

918
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: to go get him because he was going off. Yeah,

919
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: I love it interestingly enough. Yes, that is exactly what

920
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: they did.

921
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

922
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 3: And then Marshawn Lord, the running back from South Carolina.

923
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: Who is an absolute like hoss.

924
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes, this team is this team offensively is going to

925
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: be straight. Now are is Alex Grintch going to be

926
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: able to put together, like coordinate a good defense?

927
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: Because pieces they should be better.

928
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: At this time last year, we were talking about Grinch

929
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: being the head coach of Arizona State, and now we're

930
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: talking about him being the weak link. It's amazing what

931
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: a year's difference does for somebody's reputation.

932
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

933
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: And you know what is uh so USC has you know,

934
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: a bunch of people who are going to be projected

935
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: on all packed twelve teams and all of that stuff.

936
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: So you know, we shallsey.

937
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: So what did you give up three hundred million points

938
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: in their last seven games? I just want to throw

939
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: that out there. Even Colorado got seventeen on them, You

940
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: Cla scored forty five, Utah got forty seven, Tallane got

941
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: forty six. You talked you take went over forty twice

942
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: on this team. That's how bad. Their defense was so

943
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, and but Lincoln Riley stuck by Alex Grinch

944
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: and so yikes, that make a break, right.

945
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with sticking by your guy, bro, nothing

946
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: wrong with sticking by your guy. But if you if

947
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: you're wrong, it is going to be hell to pay.

948
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: And when you look at this schedule, where do you

949
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: see losses besides at Colorado?

950
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: Uh, the most dangerous I was joking, right, but I

951
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: mean the most dangerous game is really October twenty first,

952
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: before that, it feels like they could clean up. If

953
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: they're struggling early on, that's a huge problem. But I

954
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: think they probably go into their game against Utah undefeated.

955
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

956
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: Uh, that Notre Dame game is not going to be

957
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: like like it's it's not going to be that simple. Bro.

958
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: You keep forgetting that Caleb Williams exists.

959
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not forgetting that Caleb Williams exists. I'm

960
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: just saying that that Notre Dame is going to be better.

961
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that's the game that's gonna be

962
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: the first time that Heisman voters really get to tune

963
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: in San Jose State that opening game. That opening game

964
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: is on pack twelve network for the defending Heisman winner.

965
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't see a problem with that.

966
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Well, you should see what ESPN is playing at the

967
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: exact same time. What it's like tu lane in somebody?

968
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: Oh damn, yeah, it's Code Blood. Yeah.

969
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think that that game is going to be

970
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: so important because it's gonna be the first time people

971
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: are like, is Caleb Williams gonna repeat or not? That's

972
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the game to set the narrative at Notre

973
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Dame on October fourteenth.

974
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, all right, So I think that

975
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: their only chance for losses are Notre Dame at Notre Dame, Utah, Washington,

976
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: and Oregon. That's it. So what game on here could

977
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: be sneaky UCLA. That's it. Nothing else, nothing else.

978
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you gonna give me any respect

979
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: when Christian Roland Wallace is packed to a first team.

980
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: Of course, but the way USC schedule is set up,

981
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: they actually have two buys. They have a bye the

982
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: last week of the season on November twenty fifth, which

983
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: is actually terrible. I hate when this happens because it

984
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: gives if they're in the conference championship, they get a

985
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: week off, a week to get healthy, which is which

986
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: is totally unfair. But yeah, I digress, all right.

987
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: On to actual offensive player of the year and defensive

988
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: player of the year off this roster. I think you're

989
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: going to see Kaylen Williams Eric Gentry in my opinion.

990
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I totally disagree, because I think that the PAC

991
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: twelve Player of the Year is going to defensive player

992
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: of the Year is going to come from Oregon. In

993
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: Jordan Birch, all right, how are you.

994
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: Going to feel if it actually ends up being just

995
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: in flow?

996
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: It won't be. It won't be. I'm not worried about

997
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: that at all. So you have the Oregon Ducks, who

998
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: are fifteen in the coaches I mean in the yeah,

999
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: in the coaches poll.

1000
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: And in the AP pole. They had their offense.

1001
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: They are rebuilding their offensive line because they graduated damn

1002
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: near the whole thing, but they reloaded with a transfer

1003
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: out of Road Island. They have a big time freshman

1004
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: that was there that played some last year in Oregon

1005
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: typically does a really good job with their officsive line.

1006
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: So I'm actually less worried about that than anything else.

1007
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: It's the defense.

1008
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: When Nicks got sacked for the first time, right.

1009
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I'm I mean, it's okay. You know,

1010
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: they did a really good job. I mean, but the

1011
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: office of line was veteran and all that stuff. But

1012
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: they do a really good job with the offensive line.

1013
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: But they do have a new offensive coordinator, which is

1014
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: different than their lasts office coordinator who's now the head

1015
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: coach at Arizona State. He was more run heavy, but

1016
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's more who he is or

1017
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: whether that's more Dan Lanning's influence on the situation, whereas

1018
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: UTSA tends to throw throw the ball more, but that

1019
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: may be because they want to move fast and all

1020
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: of that because they have a talent deficiency against some

1021
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: of the people that they play against. So it'll be

1022
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: interesting to see how Oregon's new officer coordinator breaks in

1023
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: with this with this team, because their offense was really

1024
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: good last year and their defense they if they if

1025
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: Oregon does not get if they cannot pressure the quarterback,

1026
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: if they cannot get pressure without blitzing, they are going

1027
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: to lose to Washington and to USC for sure and

1028
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: could be looking at a ninety three season regular season.

1029
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: But if they can get pressure on the quarterback without blitzing,

1030
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: they can run the table.

1031
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I mean I'm of everyone that was lost

1032
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: by any Pac twelve team that actually made an impact,

1033
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: because I mean, USC lost a couple of players who

1034
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: were absolute world beaters, but you know, the defense kept

1035
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: getting torched. I look at Christian Gonzales and I wonder

1036
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: if if.

1037
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, because he was good, bro, he was special.

1038
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: Good Kyrie Jackson could be. I think he came in

1039
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: from Alabama, right, I'm rooting also for a Gary Bryant

1040
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: redemption story. Yeah, yeah, And he's part of this Oregon defense.

1041
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that they're much more dependent on their defense

1042
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: being functional to get them where they want to go

1043
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: than than I believe. You know, I think the offense

1044
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be fine. I think Bo Knicks is is

1045
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: coming in with more confidence and swagged than he's ever

1046
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: had except for maybe his senior year in high school.

1047
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to run the ball.

1048
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: I think that'll give the offensive lineman some some confidence.

1049
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to see Josh carnellly get on the

1050
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: field because he was a monster in high school, right,

1051
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: and if they can do with him what they did

1052
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: with Pine Seool. That's gonna be exciting to watch. But

1053
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: you know they turned over some of the players on

1054
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: this defense. You know, Pane Soool's gone or not, No,

1055
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: Sool's gone. Justin full Flow is in is in Arizona.

1056
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales is in the NFL. It's gonna be interesting

1057
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: to see how they piece things together defensively. I think

1058
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: that game at Texas Tech, I'm fascinated by that because

1059
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in Lubbock. The crowd is gonna be

1060
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: absolutely insane. Joe McGuire has a really good thing going

1061
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: on down there. And guess who the starting quarterback is

1062
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: of the Red Raiders.

1063
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: Baby, Oh, it is your boy, Tyler Shuck.

1064
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, former Oregon deck Tyler Shuck.

1065
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: So so did I say his name right?

1066
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: You did? For the first time ever?

1067
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: Yes, you did. I was debating. I was like, shuck shuck, shuck, shuck, shuck,

1068
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: shuck shuck. I just I just guessed it was fifty

1069
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: to fifty.

1070
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: It's just so like I've I've had September nine circled forever,

1071
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna I won't be rooting against Oregon,

1072
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: but I do want Tyler Shuck to play well in

1073
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: that game because you.

1074
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: Can root against them all, you won't do it. Ain't

1075
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: gonna help him, baby, it ain't gonna help him.

1076
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm still back to pack. I am back to pack.

1077
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: Are you exkidding me?

1078
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: I am back the guy right, yes, done sober, sober

1079
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: like I.

1080
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: But the non conference. But the thing, George, is the

1081
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: non conference. You want everybody even even if you're only playing.

1082
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: Well, I should say yes, yes, I am to see

1083
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm back to pack like like like, I want you

1084
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 2: fools to win your non conference games. But I'm also

1085
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: saying we're mercenaries, so you know. So, so y'all do

1086
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: what's best for y'all, will do what's best for us.

1087
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: Just freaking just do your job. Just do your job.

1088
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: You're just win baby, yep, just win baby. And uh yeah,

1089
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: So I like Oregon as we picked him in the preseason,

1090
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: uh to be in the championship game. I think that

1091
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: this team is going to be underrated. The defense is

1092
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: going to be significantly better, I believe, and with bo

1093
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: Nick's returning, if he's able to if he's able to

1094
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: start and finish the season, bro, it is going to

1095
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: be absolutely amazing, absolutely amazing. Sign sign me up, buddy,

1096
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: who we got now? All right?

1097
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: The U c l A Bruins.

1098
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Okay, boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.

1099
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 2: Only ten more days of college foot football, but only

1100
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: two more sleep still high school football?

1101
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: Yes, side note, I'm super.

1102
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: Excited my son place today.

1103
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: Yes, let's get a win.

1104
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: Is is his game on nf HS.

1105
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they put JV

1106
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: games on there, but.

1107
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 3: He's yes, they do what they do in call California soldier.

1108
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: Let me know.

1109
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: He's a freshman on JV. They don't have freshman level

1110
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: out here, so a little scared for him, but he's starting.

1111
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: Ooh, look at michaeh All right, uh U c l A.

1112
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: Who's going to be their quarterback?

1113
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I who do I want it to be?

1114
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: Or who is it gonna be?

1115
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: Both?

1116
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the Etheran Garber's era. I'm a big

1117
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 1: fan of the Garber's brothers. Chase was awesome at CAL.

1118
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: I would love to see Ethan get a shot here

1119
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: at UCLA because it's just that much easier to then

1120
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: turn it over to your future if it's not breaking out.

1121
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: Well, and then you got Collin Shlee. Yeah, and Dante

1122
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: more So, who do you think it's going to be

1123
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: Dante Moore? I don't think so at the At the

1124
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm going Garber's to start this opening game.

1125
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: Is if Garbaus struggles at Coastal Carolina, they're gonna have

1126
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: to do something.

1127
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: Now, Chip, Chip doesn't do that that fast.

1128
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: He'll give the man doesn't do anything fast except his

1129
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: offense has moved fast. But it's a man. Think about it.

1130
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: It's funny like we're like sixteen months removed from Ben

1131
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: Bolch at the La Times saying that Chim Kelly needed

1132
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: to be fired.

1133
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, hey man, and now with an.

1134
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: In with a potential incoming freshman quarterback, people think they're

1135
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: a top thirty.

1136
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: Teen Yeah, yep, don't Yeah, are the Are you.

1137
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: In any way sore at Dante more for changing his

1138
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: mind on Orgon?

1139
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, Okay, absolutely not.

1140
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,479
Speaker 2: There's that no point.

1141
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: You're a divided household, right.

1142
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: Yes, wife's UCLA.

1143
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with the good guys. But but but but

1144
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: I you know, I enjoy UCLA's success. I like Chip

1145
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: all right, So yeah, so I don't I don't I

1146
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: know some of the players on our team. I want

1147
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: them to do well. I mean, I'm an Oregon fan,

1148
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: but me knowing so many kids now that are going

1149
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: to these schools, like, I want the kids to have

1150
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: success as well, so I can enjoy the kid's success

1151
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: while while also saying yes, yes, I do leaning towards

1152
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: the Ducks. But the question is what is UCLA gonna

1153
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: do with their You know, at the wide receiver position,

1154
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: they lose Jake Bobo Kashmir Allen, but they do get

1155
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: Kyle Ford who transferred from USC. I like and yeah,

1156
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: and losing Jack Zach Sharbona is a major deal. But

1157
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: they get TJ Harden Keegan Jones. The running back crew

1158
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: will be just fine. Now, I think.

1159
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: Russian prover one thousand yards. I believe. I believe Carson.

1160
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: He was a monster at Ball State, and I know

1161
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: it's just Ball State, but five and a half yards

1162
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: and carries no fluke. I think they're going to find

1163
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: a way to get him the ball a lot.

1164
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So who do you Their whole schedule depends on

1165
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: quarterback play because Coastal Carolina is not just gonna be

1166
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: a pushover. Then they play at San Diego State just

1167
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: like Oregon State, that's tough, bro, that's always tough.

1168
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 3: Like they're just a nuisance and they're gonna be like

1169
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: we should be.

1170
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: In the back twelve. You guys ruined it for us,

1171
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: and then you got you know, at Oregon State, at Stanford,

1172
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: at Arizona. But they do avoid Oregon and Washington, which

1173
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: makes things significantly lighter. Yeah. Give me nine wins for UCLA.

1174
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that'd be huge, that would be huge. I remember

1175
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: our biggest argument on this podcast was whether or not

1176
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: they would ever win an out of conference game. And

1177
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: I look at Coastal Carolina and San Diego State, and

1178
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: I say, if they could start to and oh, then

1179
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: then you might be right. This could be a nine

1180
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: win team. I think what it comes down to for

1181
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: me is they went and got a defensive coordinator to

1182
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: place billing government passed away. It's condolences to his family,

1183
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: But de'anton lynn from the Ravens has never called the

1184
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: defense before, so they clung to Jerry as an r

1185
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: over way too long, way too long. They go with

1186
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: McGovern they instantly improve, and now they got to hire

1187
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: somebody who's never called the defense, and that is that

1188
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: That's my one thing that I worry about I think,

1189
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be maybe some regression there. I

1190
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: have UCLA as an eight win team. I don't think

1191
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: they're going to start too and oh, I think they're

1192
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna drop one of those first two and Coastal Carolina

1193
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: could really set them up for themselves up for a

1194
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: special season by winning on the road first game of

1195
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: the season, and that'll get the whole Chip Kelly hot

1196
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: seat talk started again, because you know, you know that

1197
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: there's people within u c l A That that that

1198
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: say they don't want to take chip Kelly to the

1199
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: Big ten with them, But if they handle business, then

1200
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, not is gonna be enough to have people

1201
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: excited about the future possibly having you know, two more

1202
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: years with Dante More as a starter.

1203
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: Yep. On to the Oregon State beav us, who's going

1204
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: to be there? Well, I think that we it's clear

1205
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: that dj is going to be their starting quarterback to

1206
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: start the season, but the question is will he retain

1207
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: that the entire season and fight off Aiden Childs.

1208
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: I know you've always loved Aiden Childs.

1209
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: He's still a freshman. I mean, he's a true freshman,

1210
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: so I've.

1211
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I stay really in tune with high school football.

1212
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: You were on him way before me, like you turned

1213
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: me onto him. The fact that he's showing up in

1214
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: Oregon State practices as good as you said he was

1215
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: going to be is pretty cool. This coaching staff has

1216
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that that Oregon State has going for

1217
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: them right now is the continuity They held off a

1218
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: lot of people trying to hire away staff. They have

1219
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: every reason to make this a revenge year. I am

1220
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: absolutely rooting for them to be as successful as they

1221
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: can possibly be. I got to watch dj ui Agila

1222
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: up close in high school. I got to watch him

1223
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: up close and went to a couple of his games

1224
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: at Clemson. He can't be timid and lead this team

1225
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 1: to a special season, and he has a real tendency

1226
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: to get conservative, really conservative.

1227
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, his confidence had gotten broken.

1228
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: But the difference is in the Pac twelve, when you're

1229
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: six five two fifty and you want to go and

1230
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: get those five or six yards running, that five or

1231
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: six yards might turn into a lot more. That wasn't

1232
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: happening for him in the ACC. Plus, you were the

1233
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: ACC was having like record breaking quarterback play from everybody

1234
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: but him, So it just felt like a huge pile on.

1235
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: This is nice to be a fresh start, but is

1236
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: he going to be able to climb them out of

1237
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: a hole with his arm?

1238
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, you shouldn't do.

1239
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 3: Is San Diego State part of the conference again? Good God, No.

1240
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: They are not, and we know they are not because

1241
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: the conference is dead because they weren't able to join.

1242
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: So Oregon State plays them week three. But starting with

1243
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 2: San Jose State, you see Davis and then San Diego

1244
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 2: well saying you see Davis has multiple Pack twelve schools

1245
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: on the schedule as well. But the Jets, he gets

1246
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: a good land like a good takeoff, if that makes sense,

1247
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: an opportunity to have a good takeoff. Oregon State has

1248
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: a good shot to start three. And oh then they

1249
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: get at Washington State and that game.

1250
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: That game is incredibly important, way more important than it

1251
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: needs to be. Who would have thought? Who would have

1252
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,879
Speaker 1: thought that, like September twenty third, Oregon State at Washington

1253
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: State was going to be must see TV.

1254
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: Well, they got to win that game because if they

1255
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: can win that game four and oh, that's gonna put

1256
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: them that that that is going to generate so much

1257
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: of the hype surrounding them. And and but but here,

1258
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: here's the truth. Here's the truth, Ralph. If Jonathan Smith

1259
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: finishes this team like ten and two, nine and three

1260
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: and then wins their ball game, well, actually he won't

1261
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: be there for the ball game. Like that's as much

1262
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: as he loves Oregon State, how do you turn down

1263
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: like somebody being like, all right, Jonathan, here's nine million

1264
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: dollars Oregon State, match it, match it even getting anywhere close.

1265
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: If they're that good at the end of the season,

1266
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: then he goes out on a note in which he

1267
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: will remain a legend forever.

1268
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah, he brought them back.

1269
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: I hate looking ahead like that, though.

1270
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: I just realize that right now.

1271
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's brutal. Let's brutal to think about.

1272
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: Because the Conference SAI situation. I mean, if Oregon State

1273
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: doesn't find a tenable solution, how are they gonna pay

1274
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: their coaches? I mean, it's it's gonna get rough, bro,

1275
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: It's gonna get rough. But I digress. So but I do, like,

1276
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they're running back with Martinez is really good.

1277
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: Their defense was was really good. So there's a lot

1278
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 2: of options, man, there's a lot a lot of options lost.

1279
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Jading Grant and Ragon wright. Yeah, is the secondary gonna

1280
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: keep them in games the way that it did last year?

1281
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I think that that's gonna

1282
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: be tough.

1283
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: For find Yes, I can't read for this game.

1284
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely So.

1285
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: Now we got Arizona ralph and high school football season

1286
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: is about to start out there, and man, is what

1287
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: is going on out there in your great state of

1288
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: Arizona hometown.

1289
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, everything in Arizona high school football.

1290
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: And for people who don't know, that's you know. I

1291
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: covered the PAC twelve with Georgia. I used to be

1292
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: the managing editor and lead recruiting reporter of Devil's Digest

1293
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: cover in Arizona State. But for the last I think

1294
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: this is year twelve cover Arizona high school football. And

1295
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 1: it's been interesting year. We got the number one player

1296
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: in the country decided to leave and move to Georgia

1297
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: to be closer to Georgia. Some definite arguments about whether

1298
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: or not he's the number one player in the country.

1299
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the people evaluating him actually

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01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: came out and saw him in helmet and pads, but

1301
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: you know that, so that was very interesting. One of

1302
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: the number one pass Rusher actually decided to stay home

1303
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: and go to u of A, which is one of

1304
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: the most big time recruits I think that they've ever

1305
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: pulled in. And then we just have you know, we

1306
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: got some drama over Arizona desperately doesn't want to turn

1307
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: into your home state of California.

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: WHOA, whoa, whoa, What's what's what's wrong with us out

1309
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: here in California?

1310
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: Man, you know exactly what's wrong.

1311
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's wrong.

1312
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: Hey, high school football is the wild, wild, wild wild,

1313
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: super wild West kids out here getting traded like n

1314
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: f t s high school to high school. Arizona's real

1315
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,480
Speaker 1: afraid of that, so they don't grant like common sense transfers.

1316
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: We had a super unfortunate situation where where a school

1317
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, proper South Phoenix, went out to a football camp,

1318
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: had a player drown and uh and you know they're

1319
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: not letting the players leave that team, which is you know,

1320
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: they're just the stuff that they're willing to do to

1321
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: try to hold on to the to the good old

1322
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 1: days of Arizon high school football. It's a lot to

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01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: deal with, man, There's a lot. There's a lot going on,

1324
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: but that it is talent rich and it keeps growing.

1325
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: And with only two major college football programs in the state,

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: you know it's still going to be right for the

1327
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: for the pickens, for every team in the former Pac twelve.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I've thought about this on the talent. I've thought

1329
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: about this. If my son were in a different state,

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: he might be ineligible right now.

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you were at at Sierra Canyon for

1332
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years and and or at Inglewood now

1333
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: right public school Inglewood and in the interim, you know,

1334
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 1: stopped and did a semester.

1335
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: And had a couple of coffee at Alamany.

1336
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't didn't play any games or anything like that.

1337
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that should be taken into consideration,

1338
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: especially at the NC Double A. George, what do you

1339
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 1: think of what's going on with tes Walker Jake Smith,

1340
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: the kid out at Florida State where the NC Double

1341
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: A is backdating and denying some of these double transfers.

1342
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: Bro, this is bad. And you had this dude on

1343
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: my Twitter trying to tell me, oh, they wouldn't have

1344
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: been approved even if the rules didn't change, And I'm like, bro,

1345
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like when you look at

1346
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: Jake what's that? Jake Smith from USC, He went to USC.

1347
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: Played, never played, wasn't on the roster last year.

1348
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: Yes, because they changed his scholarship status. So if the

1349
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: school changes your scholarship status, that would have automatically made

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01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 2: you immediately eligible. Should be yeah. And then there's Tesz Walker,

1351
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 2: who was at a school coming out of high school.

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01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: He COVID.

1353
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty and twenty twenty one spring season both got canceled.

1354
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: So he never played at NC.

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: Central Yes, because of COVID.

1356
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: So then he transfers and then tries to transfer again

1357
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: and they're like no, you're like, bro, I literally could

1358
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 2: not play at the first place I was at. Could

1359
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: not for no fault to myle.

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: They're counting NC Central not having football, as you know,

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,919
Speaker 1: him going to Kent State as a athletically motivated transfer,

1362
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, why do you think he's he's trying

1363
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,839
Speaker 1: to play college football if you don't have college football.

1364
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: Same goes for Jake Smith. If you don't have college

1365
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: football available to you, going to somewhere that has college

1366
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: football shouldn't count as.

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: A transfer, Thank you, thank you. Even if it.

1368
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: Were on an athletic scholarship, it should not count as

1369
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: a transfer. There was not football available to you, so

1370
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: you went somewhere where football is especially if you get cut, because.

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, allow for you to get cut and then

1372
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: but then they count you as a transfer, but then

1373
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: they count that as a transfer.

1374
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 3: I got cut.

1375
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: I have nowhere else to go, Like you allowed a

1376
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 2: cop because we got a new coach to cut players

1377
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: as many as well?

1378
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: How I mean, can I do up to ten fifty hour?

1379
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: How many is it?

1380
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I think? I think I don't know if the limit exists,

1381
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: but I think it's you know, they can come in

1382
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: and basically be like, you know, you don't fit with

1383
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: our culture, or like that sprained ankle looks we're gonna

1384
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: heal yea cyon r chip Kelly. Chip Kelly came in

1385
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: with the axe like I Jack's way case or Sean

1386
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Seawards bounced him. Yeah, guys, I knew on the O

1387
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: lion and then they then they struggled with O line

1388
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 1: depth for a couple of years, which is pretty comical,

1389
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: but like it. You know, Herm Edwards came in to

1390
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: asu Herm Edwards cut a dude. This is wild. Herm

1391
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: Edwards came in and it wasn't just Herm Edwards. It

1392
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: was the whole staff that was out there cutting guys.

1393
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: But Herm Edwards came in and cut a dude that

1394
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: had been committed to Arizona State since he was fourteen

1395
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: years old. He committed to ASU in eighth grade, George,

1396
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: because his dad was college teammates with Todd Graham. He

1397
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 1: stayed committed to ASU all through high school, enrolled at ASU,

1398
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: went through spring football, had like an interception in the

1399
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: in the spring showcase, Herm Edwards come in cuts him

1400
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: and then he has to make the decision. Am I

1401
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: got to stay in school on my athletic scholarship at

1402
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: a place where I really wanted to be in school

1403
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: and I've wanted to be since I was fourteen, or

1404
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: do I go elsewhere and play. That player's name is

1405
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: Lauren Mondy. He ended up staying and getting his degree

1406
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: from Arizona State, but in multiple times approached the coaching

1407
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: staff and asked if he could come back and they

1408
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: said no, like college football could be a dirty business

1409
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: and NCAA needs to realize if you were good enough

1410
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: to be on athletic scholarship somewhere, but a coach comes in,

1411
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: they want to shape the roster their way. That shouldn't

1412
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: be a trance. It's not what were you going to

1413
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: do otherwise? Again, I want to reiterate, Jake Smith was

1414
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: not on the roster at USC last year. Yes, not

1415
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: on the roster. Missed all of twenty twenty one due

1416
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: to injury. When Clay Heilton was still the coach. Lincoln

1417
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Riley comes in tells Jake Smith you're not gonna play here,

1418
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: takes him off the roster completely. If Jake Smith wants

1419
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: to play football, it's got to be at Arizona State.

1420
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: And so now they're gonna make him sit for a

1421
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: third year in a row. Oh, former National Gatorade Player

1422
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: of the Year at wide receiver. They're gonna make him

1423
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: sit for a third year old? Why, what's a point?

1424
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: He's just gonna well, this is the nc double A saying, well, Arizona, Kansas,

1425
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 2: LSU thumb their nose up at us. We have no power,

1426
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: so you know what, we are going to flex our

1427
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: power against the people that we do have power over.

1428
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: Gosh, how crazy would that be if it was like, oh,

1429
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, the NCUBA never got around to punishing North

1430
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 1: Carolina for for their wild ass basketball classes.

1431
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, no, no, they said that they couldn't punish them,

1432
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 2: that they didn't have basically the jurisdiction, the jurisdiction to

1433
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: be able to punish them for sham classes. So when

1434
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: when the exchange of the scholarship is supposed to be

1435
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: for Yeah, what if?

1436
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: What if tes Walker is the player to be named

1437
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: later in the North Carolina punishment? Because that's what it

1438
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: feels like, you got, you know, I see plenty of

1439
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: people say, well, if you're going to Alabama, he'd be fine.

1440
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: Probably not. Anca is doing this to a lot of

1441
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: kids right now, and I don't think it's right. Yeah,

1442
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: now you gonna talk about the Wildcats now, and you

1443
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: can't make fun of me because they don't have Khalil

1444
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: Tate on the team. He hasn't been there for years.

1445
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: All right. So Arizona does have this Arizona team. They

1446
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: are headed in the right direction, buddy. Now, if they

1447
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: can finish this, uh, this recruiting class off themm Williams

1448
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: committed at quarterback Elijah Rushing for their first five star

1449
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: in the history of the team, Like that would be incredible,

1450
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: That would be incredible for them to finish off this

1451
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: recruiting class strong because those two kids going there now

1452
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: makes them a threat for all sorts of kids, for

1453
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: the top kids coming out of Arizona. And right now

1454
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: they are the hottest program in the state of Arizona

1455
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: in terms of the buzz, at least out here in California.

1456
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: That you're right, yeah, right, especially in California because ASU's

1457
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: mostly been recruiting Texas.

1458
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: Yep. And so you have Arizona who last year was

1459
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: flirting with a bowl game even though we knew they

1460
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 2: weren't going to make a bowl game and Jedfish was

1461
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: his third year there now and yeah, and things are going.

1462
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they were at the bottom of the pack.

1463
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: They couldn't have been. They were like San Diego State

1464
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: BYU and Boise State were above them. They got in

1465
01:25:54,880 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: herm Edwards. Yes, and now they look our right t

1466
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: mac at wide out Jaden Delora coming back like he's

1467
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: it's weird because the way I look at him is

1468
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: that he's a program changing quarterback, like in terms of

1469
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: but he's also not the greatest quarterback that's gonna come

1470
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: through there if they continue this up, If that makes

1471
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: sense that like like like for instance, Oregon would look

1472
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 2: at Joey Harrington as an initial program changing quarterback, and

1473
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: then you ended up like Dennis Dixon was almost that

1474
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: and if his acl holds up against Arizona, he was

1475
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna win the Heisman and they were gonna win the

1476
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: national championship. Then you had Marcus Mariota come So, but

1477
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 2: the original was Joey, right, So Joey was the guy

1478
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: for a very very long time. I mean, Joey still

1479
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, held him very high hist theme in Oregon.

1480
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: You don't give that credit to Achille or how how

1481
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: far before Joey was Achille just.

1482
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: Just to uh, they were on the roster at the

1483
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: same time. Achille just started in ninety eight, okay, and

1484
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: then in ninety nine Joey didn't win the job. It

1485
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: was oh my Aj Peeley, and then AJ got hurt

1486
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the year and then that's when

1487
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Joey started starting after that and he never relinquished a position.

1488
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: So it was so for so for Arizona, Jayden is

1489
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: that Jayden could be that Joey Harrington, that that there

1490
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: should be a Marcus Marriota coming after, not necessarily immediately,

1491
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: because you know it was like ten years after, but

1492
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: you can get one on the on the way because of.

1493
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: The what if Fafita is that guy?

1494
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: Though, Dude, Noah Fafida, who's their backup right now? If

1495
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: he were even six feet tall, he would have been

1496
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 2: a five star, but he's five nine.

1497
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do. Here's the deal with Jaden

1498
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: and de Laura, and we're gonna get into some hairy

1499
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: territory right now. So send all your comments to I'm

1500
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: mad at on a freight show dot com or at

1501
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: tag George Reister because I feel the way I feel.

1502
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: H Jade Laura, we've talked about on this podcast for

1503
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: a while now, struggled at Washington State. Yep, not as

1504
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now as a quarterback, he's off the quarterback

1505
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, Arizona was supposed to be that

1506
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: that that new start for him. He ends up you know. Uh,

1507
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: he turned the ball over a few times, but he

1508
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: had a pretty decent year. Gets into a Dorian Singer

1509
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Then Dorian Singer leaves to USC. Some

1510
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: people might connect the dots there, some people might not

1511
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: just say that that's football. But this offseason news comes

1512
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: out that in high school he him and a teammate

1513
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,480
Speaker 1: were accused of sexually assaulting a girl in a parking garage.

1514
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Because that went to juvenile court. Supposedly, they admit responsibility,

1515
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: they apologize, but admitting responsibility and having your record sealed

1516
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: in juvenile court does not does not constitute a guilty plea.

1517
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: You know, people are saying, you know that this settlement

1518
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: was made and Jetfish is having an answer for it

1519
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: and Jane Dolores having to talk about it at packed

1520
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: to a media day and they say, you know, they

1521
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: he didn't admit guilt. That's what he wants to have

1522
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: out there, and you know, it's a it's a situation

1523
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: that he has to be private about because you know,

1524
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: legally he's not allowed to speak on it. And they're

1525
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: moving on from it. We know that he had issues

1526
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: at Washington State. I believe his DUI case got thrown out.

1527
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: But I will say this, at best, Arizona is dealing

1528
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who in his youth like to get

1529
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: naked with a male friend of his and have sex

1530
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: in a parking garage att at best and and potentially

1531
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: is working on building his character over time from there. Right,

1532
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: So that's that's the best case. The worst case scenario,

1533
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: you have somebody that actually committed a sexual assault. We're

1534
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 1: not gonna know. Jedfish having to deal with this, the

1535
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: University of Arizona players and staff having to deal with

1536
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: where they sit on it. You know, it's been a

1537
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: long offseason. I'm sure that they're excited to just get

1538
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: on the field. I'm pretty uncomfortable with that. I've been

1539
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with it the entire time. I wonder if Arizona knew,

1540
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: if they would have brought him in from Washington State.

1541
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: That's a question that probably those coaches down at U

1542
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: of A are only going to be able to answer

1543
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 1: in private. See, I do wonder, and I completely understand

1544
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: that there there are false accusations that that exist out there.

1545
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 1: There's I understand all of the dynamics of all of

1546
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: those things.

1547
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, what.

1548
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,839
Speaker 1: I will What I will say is when you combine

1549
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: that with some of the struggles at at at Washington State,

1550
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 1: with some of the personality conflicts with teammates at Arizona,

1551
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: it feels to me like the ice is thin, and

1552
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about Tucson, where there is no ice. So

1553
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about we talk about U of

1554
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: a being on the verge of a special season. It

1555
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: is all in the hands of a young man who

1556
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: is saying that he's out here, you know, getting his

1557
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: life in order and everything like that. And I want

1558
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: that for him and I want it to be true.

1559
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: But I personally feel like he might have put the

1560
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: coaches in a little bit of precarious situation. I don't

1561
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: think everybody at U of A knew everything when when

1562
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: they brought him in. And I do wonder like, if

1563
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: he goes out there and he struggles early and he's

1564
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: turning the ball over early, if that doesn't in some

1565
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: way factor into the motivation to make a change, to

1566
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: open up that next chapter for a guy like Noah

1567
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: fa Fida, I don't wantee that.

1568
01:31:54,240 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: Jaden Jayden de Laura is j R. Smith in terms

1569
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: of he will shoot you in a basketball game, and

1570
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 2: he'll shoot you right out of it.

1571
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 3: And so he's got to get the turnovers cleaned up.

1572
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: Because Arizona's defense, even though that they should be much

1573
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 2: improved this year, even though they lost hyphen Man to USC,

1574
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: it's still a problem.

1575
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 3: It's still a problem.

1576
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 2: So the offense can't be putting the defense in bad spots.

1577
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,879
Speaker 3: Because this defense is it's.

1578
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Going to be nowhere near one of the better defenses

1579
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve.

1580
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: No, and Jed Fish is out here talking about the

1581
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: O line being the strength of the team. I haven't

1582
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 1: heard anybody say that about Arizona in ever. Yeah, so

1583
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be we're talking about forty to thirty,

1584
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: fifty to forty games. If they want to be successful.

1585
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 2: Exactly, they are going to have to win some shootouts

1586
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: and it means no turn no excessive turnovers.

1587
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 3: So so with with.

1588
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: Their schedule Ralph Northern Arizona at Mississippi State UTEP, will

1589
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 2: they at what will their record be after three games?

1590
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go two and one.

1591
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: It has to be right, it has to be like

1592
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: this is it's weird that that that is very very

1593
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:34,839
Speaker 1: clear that Jedfish has done extremely positive things, extremely positive

1594
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: things in Tucson, But none of it matters unless they win.

1595
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think Jeed Fish is going anywhere.

1596
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he has his eyes on any other program.

1597
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 1: Maybe if they have a ten win season or something

1598
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 1: like that, maybe he would make the leap, but man.

1599
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1600
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I think I think he's in it, and I think

1601
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: that they have built in a way that is uh

1602
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: healthy And it is not his fault that they've lost

1603
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: the players they've lost. If USC is gonna come shopping

1604
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: in Tucson, you know they're gonna be victimized by that

1605
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: year after year, even after we split conferences. That's just

1606
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna be the way that it is, and that is unfortunate.

1607
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: That's why it was so important for them to get

1608
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: the commitment from Elijah Rushing. But they started off last

1609
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: year two and one. Mississippi State blew.

1610
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Them out, Okay.

1611
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: Blew them out right. They beat North Dakota State, which

1612
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: I guaranteed would not happen. Two and one is a musk.

1613
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: Yes, you did. You definitely did guarantee.

1614
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: I was like, Bro, there's no way that you can

1615
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: be picking North Dakota State over Arizona. Man.

1616
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. We were talking about

1617
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: probably the worst team in all of Power five against

1618
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: the FCS Bama and it was a close game in

1619
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: North Kota State.

1620
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it proved, it proved, it proved Georgia you

1621
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 2: put him in the NFL.

1622
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: They are still losing.

1623
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, But here's the thing I worry about I do

1624
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: think two and one, but it's what they do after

1625
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: that that's going to matter. Because they started out two

1626
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: and one last year, and then they gave up forty

1627
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 1: nine to col they gave up forty nine to Oregon,

1628
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: they gave up forty nine to Washington, they gave up

1629
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: forty five to usc they gave up forty five to Utah.

1630
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: That middle of the season was brutal. Had they not

1631
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: beat UCLA, we might be talking about jetfish on the

1632
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 1: hot seat.

1633
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Damn no, No, they couldn't put them on the hot

1634
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: seat that fast.

1635
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 3: That would be That would be outrageous.

1636
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 1: That would have meant. Here's what that would have meant.

1637
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: That would have meant six straight losses leading into the

1638
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: Arizona State game. Six straight losses giving up an average

1639
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: of like forty two points a game.

1640
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: What do you expect to happen with this team?

1641
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: They have to they they first of all, they got

1642
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: like they got to take care of the ball the

1643
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: one time. There was two times in the season where

1644
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: they took care of the ball. Two times against North

1645
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Dakota State, they actually won the turnover battle, which I

1646
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: never would have predicted, and it took them plus four

1647
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: plus four in the turnover battle to beat Arizona State

1648
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: by three plus four to three. This defense was putrid

1649
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: and it got rated for its best parts. So I

1650
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: would I would say that, like if you finished the

1651
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: whole season given up well over forty points a game,

1652
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 1: especially given up fifty to Cal George. I don't think

1653
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: Cal could give up fifty to Cal in the seven.

1654
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't. So you know, I just had they not

1655
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: beat UCLA, I genuinely believe this. Had they not beat Ucla,

1656
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: Jedfish would be in hot, hot hot water right now.

1657
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: The wins over UCLA and Arizona State and closing out

1658
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: the season strong, even being respectable against Washington means that

1659
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: people have a renewed excitement this year. But if they

1660
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: start two and one, great, But you know what happens

1661
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: after that is anybody's guests. And this game against Mississippi

1662
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 1: State's got kind of a different level to it because

1663
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,839
Speaker 1: now it's it's happening without Mike Leach. Former PAC twelve

1664
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: Washington State head coach Mike Leach passed away in the

1665
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: off seasons. Maybe gonna be some different looks there. I

1666
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: doubt they keep everything the same. The air raid, the

1667
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: pirate ship all that. Maybe it's possible they start three

1668
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: and zero. I mean, I think they have to go

1669
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: into it with that mindset. But to me, it's everything

1670
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: that happens afterward in the conference. If they can't be

1671
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 1: competitive in the Pac twelve, they're not gonna be competitive

1672
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. Maybe they want to turn around reset,

1673
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna have more resources.

1674
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 3: No, there's no way that they reset.

1675
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Hey, But but they did get some other big transfers.

1676
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: They got Justin Flow from Oregon. They got Daniel Himouli

1677
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: from Washington, and Orrin pat Patou from cal And they

1678
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 2: got his brother who who just committed to Arizona as well.

1679
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: I would like to I know ASU fans hate when

1680
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: I say this every single time. I would rather because

1681
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: it's chock full of Arizona kids who I watched, you know,

1682
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: at the high school level. I don't mind when Arizona

1683
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: is successful. I'd like to see them be competitive. I'd

1684
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: like to see some of that desert swarm pride restored,

1685
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive end. Okay, that's what I want

1686
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: to see. And I just last year was very very

1687
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 1: dejecting watching them give you know, an average of seven

1688
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns a game up to conference opponents.

1689
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that I can understand the frustration there. Now with

1690
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 2: their conference schedule at Stanford, Washington, at USC, at Washington State,

1691
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: they avoid Oregon, they get Oregon State, UCLA at Colorado, Utah,

1692
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 2: and Arizona at Arizona State. So I would say they

1693
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 2: will lose to Utah, Oregon State, USC, Washington. Yeah, so

1694
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 2: in Mississippi State probably, So I'm gonna go seven and

1695
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: five with a toss up at Arizona. So I'm gonna

1696
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: go six and six, seven and five.

1697
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 1: When you see that September twenty third game at Stanford,

1698
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: do you think that's a truth telling game?

1699
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we are

1700
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: gonna find out what these does are made of at

1701
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 2: that point point in time, because you cannot in any way, shape,

1702
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 2: form or fashion lose to this Stanford team and think

1703
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 2: that everything's.

1704
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: Okay, especially when your next three games are Washington at home,

1705
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: at USC at Washington State. You can't go into the

1706
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 1: bio in foreign conference.

1707
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, exactly. That would be a bad.

1708
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: You don't think they will, No, no, no, no, that'd

1709
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 2: be that'd be bad.

1710
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 1: What's your goal for them? A bowl?

1711
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

1712
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that a bowl is the only acceptable.

1713
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Outcome this year.

1714
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Find me six wins.

1715
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Arizona, Northern Arizona, UTAP. That's two, Stanford three, Colorado four,

1716
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Arizona State five, who Washington State six?

1717
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 1: You think the Jaden Delora Pullman homecoming is going to

1718
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: go in? Jaden Delora's favorite I love it.

1719
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: I think he usually gets a little too emotional in

1720
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 2: those times, but I think that he's had enough of

1721
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 2: them that maybe he won't.

1722
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 3: You know, wet the bed again. How about that?

1723
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: See we'll see who's up next.

1724
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: You're not buying it. That's cold, bro.

1725
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm not buying them as the you know, uh as

1726
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: A as a top seven team in the conference. It's

1727
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: going to go to a bowl. I think. I think

1728
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: five and seven would be really good season. I think

1729
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: a bowl is the goal. But that defense was so

1730
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: bad last year. I don't know, one hundred and twenty

1731
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: six in the country and scoring defense George one twenty six,

1732
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: one twenty five in total defense, one twenty six in

1733
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: yards per play, one twenty four in rushing defense.

1734
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 3: Gave up a sound like a negative Nancy, negative Nancy.

1735
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm just listing facts, man, just facts. The best that

1736
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: they The best thing that they had last year was

1737
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 1: their defense against the long bawl, which teams didn't need

1738
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 1: to do because you could dice them any way you wanted.

1739
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,959
Speaker 1: But there weren't a lot of deep passes on this defense.

1740
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: They were top eighty in the country at.

1741
01:41:56,040 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 2: That Well, we shall see how they do now on

1742
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: next the team that Jade de Laura came from, the

1743
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Washington State Huskies who rouphed Huskies are, oh lord, the

1744
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: Washington State Cougars. The Cougars. Now they proved you wrong

1745
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 2: last year. Buddy, you had to eat your damn words.

1746
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Do you do you remember this?

1747
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1748
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 3: I mean where you were like they are liars.

1749
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 2: They said they were going to run the ball, and

1750
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: then after that they came back running the ball down

1751
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 2: people's necks.

1752
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: That they did they did make that change, Yes, they were.

1753
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 1: They really impressed me with their ability to run the ball.

1754
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: It. You know.

1755
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 1: I also thought and everybody thought, they were bringing in

1756
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 1: an offense in which they were going to throw forty

1757
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: five times a game and be high scoring. And through

1758
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: two weeks they were two to zher with thirty one

1759
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: total points or forty one total points scored. And they

1760
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: did beat Wisconsin, though that was that was a feather

1761
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: in the cap, right, Yes, Yes, ended up Wisconsin ended

1762
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: up firing their coach because he can't be losing seventeen

1763
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: to fourteen games against Washington State.

1764
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 2: I guess one hundred percent you cannot, under any circumstances

1765
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 2: be losing games like that. But Jake Dicker first full

1766
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 2: season as head coach, they had obviously a really good

1767
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 2: They had a really good situation with the quarterback transfer.

1768
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 2: But I don't think he's as good as everybody, you know,

1769
01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 2: as everybody projects. I think he's been okay. But this year, though,

1770
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 2: you know, they are going to have some transfers. They

1771
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: lost a kicker or a punter. Sou Nikiah Watson returns

1772
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: at running back after he rushed for seven hundred and

1773
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards and nine touchdowns last year. And when

1774
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 2: I look at this schedule, I'm sitting here like, Okay,

1775
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 2: Cameron Ward obviously has to take a major step for

1776
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 2: next year.

1777
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: What we don't like about him? What after a year

1778
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: of watching him play? You know, he obviously that that

1779
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: it didn't translate up a level that he was going

1780
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: to throw for four thousand yards. But what do you

1781
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: like about him.

1782
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't love a whole lot about him, if

1783
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: we're being honest.

1784
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I I thought I thought he was accurate, and

1785
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was very good at extending plays. Sometimes

1786
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I did wonder if his play extension wasn't inability to

1787
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: find holes in the defense in a in a Pac

1788
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: twelve it was full of reals.

1789
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,560
Speaker 2: Ye. See, he didn't throw enough on time for me,

1790
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 2: Like he was pretty good at improvisional plays and if

1791
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 2: he had ten seconds to throw the ball. But the

1792
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: problem is you don't have that like that that those

1793
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,520
Speaker 2: aren't typical results.

1794
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a really good run late in the season.

1795
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: Though they had a really good run late in the season.

1796
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 1: Then Washington just blew the doors off him. And then

1797
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: their bold performance against Fresno State is probably the most

1798
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 1: embarrassing thing I've seen in a really long time.

1799
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 2: Yes, dude, dude, them against Fresno see. But that's the

1800
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: problem with this team, though, is that there's so much

1801
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: inconsistency with Washington State.

1802
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, consistency is gonna is gonna dissipate now that both

1803
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the decordinator left after one year and the offensive coordinator

1804
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:19,480
Speaker 1: left after one year left left Brian the de coordinator,

1805
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: took a lateral move to Arizona State.

1806
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 3: So you're saying that you're not feeling it is what

1807
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 3: you're saying.

1808
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling Jake Dicker. No, which pause, but I'm not.

1809
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: Yes, you are feeling Jake Dicker when you see him,

1810
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna fill him.

1811
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you know, you find you

1812
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: you you do find out when you're the man, you

1813
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: find out what works. And he, you know, he has

1814
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: to he has to shape things according to the You know,

1815
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: Eric Morris got offered a head coaching job. He's gonna

1816
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: take that head coaching job. But Brian Wore took a

1817
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: lateral move. And you know they're both defensive coordinators. Somebody's

1818
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: too many cooks in the kitchen. But now they're new OC.

1819
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old. Okay, It just you know,

1820
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1821
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So now so now the question is is so

1822
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: now the question is with their schedule, their non conference

1823
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: schedule at Colorado State win or loss, it better be

1824
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: j Novel, Jae.

1825
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Jane Norvel might have wanted to shout

1826
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: at this Washington State job, so probably personal for him

1827
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a win though. Okay, Wisconsin, that's gonna

1828
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 1: be a huge l That's gonna be a revenge game

1829
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:41,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion.

1830
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 2: North Carolina, I'm North Carolina, really Northern Colorado.

1831
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: A huge, huge win.

1832
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 2: They're not good. Okay, So now now you get to

1833
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 2: the conference play Oregon State, win or loss, because you

1834
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 2: because we keep projecting Oregon State to win games that

1835
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: they're they can't win them all.

1836
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I would say I would

1837
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: say a loss.

1838
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 3: I want to make a Pac twelve prediction.

1839
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: That this will be the first time, the first time

1840
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 2: since conference expansion, Ralph.

1841
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 3: That we get a team make it through undefeated.

1842
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 2: In the last season of the Back twelve, that this

1843
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: is the year that we finally get somebody making it

1844
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: through unscathed.

1845
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 1: I think they might sneak and win at UCLA.

1846
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh bro, that is you're selling you.

1847
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's.

1848
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 1: After a bui. It's just it's after a bye get

1849
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: two weeks ago.

1850
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, and that's the sort of game that

1851
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 3: U s LA loses.

1852
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: You are one hundred percent right. So I'm going to

1853
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: go two and one after the non conference and then

1854
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 2: I can see them potentially beating Arizona maybe back the

1855
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 2: same thing I said with Arizona. That's a fifty to

1856
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: fifty game, fifty to fifty game at Arizona State, fifty

1857
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 2: to fifty game at Stanford, fifty to fifty game at

1858
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 2: cow fifty to fifty game at Colorado, lost against Washington.

1859
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: So that's so if I give them half of their

1860
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty games, that gets them to five wins

1861
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 2: or five and a half wins.

1862
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's that's kind of where I see them

1863
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: on the verge of on the verge of being a

1864
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: bull team. But what you know, what would be crazy,

1865
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 1: what would be absolutely crazy, is if they bring that

1866
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky offense in and we see cam Ward figure

1867
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: it out. You know, that's the wild card is you know,

1868
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 1: I think that cam Ward was respectable. I think thirty

1869
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: two hundred yards twenty three touchdowns is respectable. Does that

1870
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 1: in the top ten for like quarterback production at Washington

1871
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,759
Speaker 1: State in the last ten years. No, it's probably the worst.

1872
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Like you know, Washington State was thrown out guys that

1873
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: were never going to play in the NFL in a

1874
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: million years, and they were throwing for fifty touchdowns in

1875
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: a season. You know, I also think he's going to

1876
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: get NFL looks. He looks to me like an NFL quarterback.

1877
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: He really does, really, I think, so I do I

1878
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: do an NFL starter? I don't know, but he Yeah.

1879
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: I think he has the size. I think he has

1880
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 1: the arm. I think he has the accuracy. I like

1881
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: that he extends plays what he's going to run into.

1882
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: Is was his issue last year in inability to make

1883
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 1: quick decisions. I think you painted it perfectly. Yeah, and

1884
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: he's switching. I think for the first time he's he's

1885
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: switching offensive coordinators because he came over with Eric Morris

1886
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: to Washington State. But yeah, I don't know. I think,

1887
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know's they led Western Kentucky led

1888
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: the country last year in twenty plus yard passes. Yes,

1889
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 1: so maybe that maybe that switch to a vertical offense

1890
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: is gonna is going to show that Campbell can actually

1891
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 1: do yes.

1892
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 2: Now, now, I do think that that will be the gotcha, gotcha,

1893
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: that that will be the telltale moment is like, Okay,

1894
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 2: let's let's see where this dude is at in terms

1895
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 2: of a passer. Now on to cal our ninth team

1896
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve that we that we have gone over.

1897
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: Justin Wilcox has been there for this is his seventh

1898
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 2: season and their average offensive rank of the sixty nine

1899
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 2: Power five schools offensively is sixty eight sixty eight Ralph

1900
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: And people had the nerve to get mad at me

1901
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 2: when he was up for the organ job and me

1902
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 2: saying he can't bring his offensive coordinator and he needs

1903
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 2: some recruiting, and then you have to if you're gonna

1904
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: give him the job, you have to force recruiting people

1905
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: on him on the staff. And what is that crazy? No?

1906
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I Justin Wilcox has done an okay job

1907
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: at CAL. Okay.

1908
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: He has been faced with tough circumstances with COVID and

1909
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: the restrictions and and all of that stuff, and the

1910
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 2: alleged admissions issues. But you could have got over the

1911
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: admissions issues though.

1912
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: But it's it's got to be real tough if you're

1913
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 1: a Cal fan and you watch them lose six in

1914
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: a row in the middle of last year while Sonny

1915
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: Dike's rattled.

1916
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: Off, when yeah, but that's Sunny Dyke's figure in something

1917
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: else out though like that At Cal, he was all

1918
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 2: offense zero. I mean, his defense would have ranked sixty

1919
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 2: nine out of sixty nine. And yeah, but at the

1920
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 2: same time.

1921
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Take advantage of the fact that, like people wanted to

1922
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: transfer in to play for TCU, who is col bringing

1923
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: in when they're turning this roster over. They didn't get

1924
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: very many players to come in. In fact, they lost

1925
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: quite a bit. People I thought were gonna start their

1926
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: quarterback who I thought was going to be the starter

1927
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: this year transferred to.

1928
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 3: An FCS school. Yes, horrible.

1929
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: They lost their best o lineman to Arizona State and

1930
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: Ben Coleman. They lost Spencer Level to Kansas. They lost

1931
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 1: Jackson Brown to Pittsburgh. Everybody bounced on on the you know,

1932
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: so I don't know, I don't know Jack Plumber left,

1933
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: so they had two quarterbacks bounce Yeah, bro, So it's

1934
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: really gonna be can Sam Jackson from TCU and Jake's Spavatal.

1935
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: I think I genuinely believe Jake's spavital is the key

1936
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 1: to whether whether your boy gets fired this year or not,

1937
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: because he is turning his offense over to somebody who

1938
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 1: was here under Sunny Dyke's and moved the ball like crazy.

1939
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Hey, that might be the answer. That might be the answer, Buddy, is.

1940
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: There anybody on this offense that you're like, like any

1941
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: individual player on this offense where you're like, yeah, that's

1942
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: that guy's going to be a dude this year.

1943
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 3: A dude over at Cal offensively.

1944
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Hunter had nine hundred and sixty five yards receiving.

1945
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it and I'm just like, bro, I

1946
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 2: just don't see anybody. I mean, I don't even know

1947
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 2: aside from Jeremiah Hunter. Oh, Jaye not that's your best

1948
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 2: case scenario that.

1949
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: Huh who's blocking for him?

1950
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: Listen? If he can go for twelve fifteen hundred yards,

1951
01:54:59,280 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: he's bury sand.

1952
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: They got Auburn, dude, and Auburn is.

1953
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: Trending in the right direction. So so let's yeah, so let's

1954
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 2: start there, right. Is that Cal their schedule is not

1955
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: friendly at all with Northern Well, I guess Northern Texas.

1956
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: That Auburn game is going to be obviously tough, but

1957
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: it is in but it is at Cal, so so

1958
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 2: they will have the home field advantage and the and

1959
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: the Ruckus crowd out there in Berkeley, So you know,

1960
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 2: so I don't know if Auburn will be able to

1961
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 2: hear the snap counts or not against Cal. And then

1962
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 2: you got Idaho, so they should go two and one

1963
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: in the non conference. Then they got at Washington State.

1964
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: So at Washington at Washington, why why am I? Why

1965
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: can't I read right now? At Washington loss, Arizona State

1966
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 2: win or loss?

1967
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 1: They get him at home in the Bay. I kinda

1968
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 1: I kind of like this Cal always like Cal defense though,

1969
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: and they're bringing everybody back, and then I think, is

1970
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 1: Brett Johnson finally back?

1971
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm after being an injury, after missing all last year.

1972
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 1: I think this defense might put a few people in hell.

1973
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: I would say that, I'd say that's a tassa. I

1974
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: want to be I want to be optimistic, but I

1975
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 1: would say that I would I would say that if

1976
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm an odds maker, I'd give Cal maybe a two

1977
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: to three point margin on the spread.

1978
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So then that puts him at three in one.

1979
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 2: How about Oregon State.

1980
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: At home? Yep, maybe they win.

1981
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 3: Let's give thee wow four and one okay?

1982
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: At Utah no USC No, So that puts them at

1983
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 2: four and three at Oregon, no, four and four Okay.

1984
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 2: So then now things are getting Washington stayed at home.

1985
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Give them a give them a half, give them four

1986
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 1: and a half. Okay, get six wins out of this.

1987
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 1: They might get six of them. The Arizona State game

1988
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 1: is going to be very important.

1989
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and so the Washington State and Stanford game, Yeah, yep, okay, but.

1990
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: They got to be able to move the ball. They

1991
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: get so you.

1992
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 2: Did, so you I'm gonna go six and six. They

1993
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: could squeak out a seven and five, but they they're

1994
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna be somewhere between five and seven and seven

1995
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: and five. No better, no worse.

1996
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: I think they'll They'll probably keep a couple of games close. Man,

1997
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: they only scored nine on Washington State last year, No

1998
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 1: wonder they had to make a change. They remember they

1999
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: lost to Colorado. Yeah, like, how how crazy is it

2000
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 1: that Colorado?

2001
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 2: We need to thirteen? You could only imagine it's thirteen

2002
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 2: points against that Colorado defense.

2003
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: It makes me laugh that cal fans are like looking

2004
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: at their schedule being like, oh, thank god, we don't

2005
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: have Colorado this year. It's really gonna come down to Jacksonville.

2006
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,919
Speaker 1: The defense is going to be functional. Justin Wilcox always

2007
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: he's not He's not a bad coach. He absolutely knows

2008
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 1: how to put you in positions to be competitive. It's

2009
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 1: really going to come down to whether or not they

2010
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: can move the football. Do they have the talent to

2011
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: do it? Because they lost a bunch. They were a

2012
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: net loss by far in the transfer portal maybe one

2013
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: yet worst in the entire PAT twelve. They've had their

2014
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: worst recruiting season in well over a decade. They were

2015
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 1: terrible getting high schoolers last year. Terrible. Yep, that by

2016
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: far the worst of Justin Wilcox's career. He's had a

2017
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: couple of top forty classes and then he fell off

2018
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. And you can say like, oh, well,

2019
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe that's you know, transfer portal, they're just getting a

2020
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: bunch of transfers. They're not. And then you know they

2021
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: have a bottom third recruiting class last year.

2022
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

2023
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 3: One of the worst in the package, well top top

2024
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 3: eighty five.

2025
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: So everybody's got to stay healthy. The offense has to

2026
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,879
Speaker 1: make a huge upswing, and the returning starters on defense

2027
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 1: have to hold it down. Jackson, Sermon, Brett Johnson, all

2028
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: those guys.

2029
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

2030
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 3: Now on to the Sun Devils.

2031
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 2: They have a brand new head coach, Herm Edwards out.

2032
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 2: We still haven't found out what the NCAA penalties are

2033
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 2: gonna be I think there should be none at this

2034
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 2: point because I mean, because the reality is their biggest

2035
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: penalty is to keep the people in charge that are

2036
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 2: in charge. Ray Anderson's staying in charge is the biggest penalty,

2037
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 2: Michael Crow saying, in charge, biggest penalty that you can have, Buddy.

2038
01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: So so I don't want the players who are there

2039
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 2: now who didn't participate in the coaches that didn't participate

2040
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 2: than aren't there punished for what other people did. This

2041
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 2: is probably the biggest wild card in the PAC twelve

2042
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 2: because Kenny Dillingham is thirteen years old. He's the goodness,

2043
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 2: nice guy, but he still got similar behind his coaching years,

2044
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 2: and sometimes that provides for a great experience and it

2045
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: can work out really, really really well for you, sometimes

2046
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 2: not so much. So I'm gonna go with Arizona State well,

2047
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 2: and then they have who's gonna be their quarterback? Trenton

2048
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 2: Borgae or is it gonna be.

2049
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: Jayden, Jane Rashata or Dreams Pine? But Drew Pine's a

2050
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 1: little banged up right now.

2051
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 2: Who would do? Who do you think is gonna win

2052
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback battle?

2053
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 1: In my personal opinion, I think they roll with Trent Borgay.

2054
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so now when you look at this,

2055
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 2: well I'll ask you about Kenny Dillingham. First, Is this

2056
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 2: a learning season?

2057
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 3: Is this feast? Is this famine? What do you think happens?

2058
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 1: He is not interested in the ramp up or the curve.

2059
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: He's trying to do it all. Right, Now, they turned

2060
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: over pretty much the whole roster. They brought in something

2061
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 1: like upwards of forty people transferring.

2062
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 2: They did exactly what Colorado did, but not with the

2063
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 2: the fan.

2064
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it wasn't It wasn't like Kenny Dillingham

2065
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 1: came in and he's like, I'm gonna kick a bunch

2066
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: of people out. He came in and there was a

2067
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: bunch of people that was like, man, I don't want

2068
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 1: even be here anymore. H here's a misery. Right, he

2069
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,839
Speaker 1: had been transferring. Now we lost Jayden Daniels, we lost

2070
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: Eric Gentry, we lost all these really good players that

2071
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 1: we should have had no.

2072
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 2: Business and they had a bunch more empty seats than

2073
02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 2: Colorado had.

2074
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 3: Yes, he came in in all the seats.

2075
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 2: We're only at.

2076
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Like sixty seven scholarships anyway.

2077
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you already needed two of what's that eighteen? Yeah,

2078
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:15,080
Speaker 2: you already needed eighteen scholarship players to come in, and

2079
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 2: then you kick a couple couple out, and now all

2080
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden, your roster looks like Dion's.

2081
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and then I mean they, you know, they

2082
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: they got to Carlos Brooks to transfer in it running

2083
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 1: back from cal They got Cameron Scattabo from I believe

2084
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 1: Sacramento State, one of the leading big Sky rushers. They

2085
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: got Jordan Tyson from Colorado. The receiver ps like, what

2086
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 1: was Colorado doing getting rid of Jordan Tyson and Montana

2087
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 1: amonious credit? I thought those are Deon could have used

2088
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 1: for his son for his son, but no, But yeah,

2089
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: so Jordan Tyson, who I you know, I really like,

2090
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: transferred in. They managed to keep Elijah Badger from leaving

2091
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: the program. They managed to keep Jalen Conyers from leaving

2092
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: the program. Offensive line is a huge question mark. Defensive

2093
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: lines and even bigger question mark. Secondary looks awesome. Receivers

2094
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 1: look awesome, tight ends look awesome, Quarterbacks look solid, running

2095
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: backs look solid. It's going to be a very strange

2096
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: year because they they have what it takes at almost

2097
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: every position group except for the hogs on both sides

2098
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 1: of the ball, and what can you what can you

2099
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 1: even do? What can you even do when your when

2100
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 1: your team's strength is an O line D line? Right? So,

2101
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Kenny this? This is my

2102
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 1: biggest question mark. Most coaches come in and they're an

2103
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 1: offensive defensive specialist, right yep. Or you're Herm Edwards and

2104
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be just the personality. But most coaches

2105
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 1: come in they're an offensive or defensive specialist and they

2106
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: maintain dominance over that one side because that's what got

2107
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 1: them there. He hired Bo Baldwin from cal Poly, who

2108
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 1: used to be the oct at cal didn't work out, Yeah,

2109
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:00,000
Speaker 1: and he gave the offense away immediately.

2110
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 2: You think that's smart, Yes, yes, wow, trying to be

2111
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 2: a young head coach, trying to be a young head

2112
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 2: coach and coordinate too too much, too much? So he

2113
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 2: so he So what you do is, in that case,

2114
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 2: you bring in somebody that aligns with you philosophically. And

2115
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 2: if you can bring in somebody who agrees with you philosophically,

2116
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 2: then you're going to have input on what they do.

2117
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 2: But you, guys, are already aligned on how you want

2118
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 2: to play football. Yeah, and I think that that is

2119
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 2: that that that doesn't mean that he's not going to

2120
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 2: be involved in the offense. That just means that he's saying, no, no, no, no,

2121
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 2: you take this job of coordinating. I gotta figure out

2122
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 2: this head coach thing, and then when it comes time

2123
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 2: to play ball, we'll collaborate. But it's your deal. Yeah. Now,

2124
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 2: this schedule, Now, this schedule, first three games, Southern Utah

2125
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 2: win or lose.

2126
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Win, Southern Utah is terrible.

2127
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 2: Even for Oklahoma State.

2128
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:11,839
Speaker 1: They I think it's a toss up only because Spencer

2129
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 1: Sanders left Oklahoma State.

2130
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 2: Why did he?

2131
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Quarterback? I don't know is even starting?

2132
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,480
Speaker 2: No, w Jackson Darts starting.

2133
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

2134
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 2: Fresno State.

2135
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: The last time I saw Fresno State, they were they

2136
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: had beating up on Washington State in state in absolute hell.

2137
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 1: And the fact that Brian Ward, the decordinator, is like, oh,

2138
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 1: here we go, Like he's so, I don't know, we'll

2139
02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 1: see Jake Hater's gone, right, But.

2140
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 2: They have some young kids they like, yeah, that's the

2141
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 2: third game, so they'll know who's their starter and be

2142
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: probably in a groove by then.

2143
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 1: I'll say toss up.

2144
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 2: Toss up too. So are you going to give him

2145
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 2: two and one or one and one or I'll be friendly.

2146
02:05:58,280 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 1: I'll be friendly and say two and one.

2147
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 2: But USC past two and two?

2148
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2149
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 2: At Cal?

2150
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, at Cal is the tough one. I think I'm

2151
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:11,879
Speaker 1: gonna give him a loss.

2152
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: Okay, two and three at Cal, I'm sorry, Home for Colorado.

2153
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 1: Sorry, Ralphie.

2154
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,600
Speaker 3: It's three and three at.

2155
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Washington the revenge game. They're gonna lose.

2156
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,040
Speaker 3: Three and four Washington State.

2157
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 1: They'll win that one.

2158
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 2: Four and four at Utah, No, it's so funy. Everybody

2159
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 2: laughs when you're talking. No, no, especially late in the year.

2160
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 2: At UCLA, don't do it.

2161
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give it to him.

2162
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 2: Five and five Oregon, No, Arizona.

2163
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 1: I think they win.

2164
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 2: Six and six.

2165
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: I think they're six win team. Yeah, okay, man now

2166
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 1: the president of State game so important.

2167
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 2: Everything in your prediction hinges on the Fresno State game,

2168
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 2: a bowl game, hinges on the Fresno State game.

2169
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Do you know why though? Look a look at their schedule.

2170
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: What do you notice? What do you notice? That's eight

2171
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 1: home games?

2172
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 2: Eight Yeah, that's a lot of home games. That does

2173
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 2: make it significantly easier and ticket revenue going to be

2174
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 2: through the roof.

2175
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: I hope, so, I hope. So there's still people who

2176
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: are mad, there's still people who are real mad. And

2177
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: then four of those games come before October, which means

2178
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 1: you gotta be sitting out there in one hundred and

2179
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: five degreeenes. I hope people show up. I hope people

2180
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 1: show up. I think it's going to be more fun

2181
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 1: than it has been because even when herm was winning,

2182
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 1: you were talking about ten to seven games and that

2183
02:07:47,120 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: was tough.

2184
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

2185
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, fans get excited for points.

2186
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:55,839
Speaker 2: Now. The eleventh team in the PAC twelve Colorado. Okay,

2187
02:07:56,120 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 2: there's been no horrendous team that has ever been talked

2188
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 2: about more than Colorado. True.

2189
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 1: True, they sold out their spring game, they got there,

2190
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 1: they got their scrimmage put on ESPN. Yeah, this is

2191
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: the this is left for the media. Darling of the conference.

2192
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Let me explain to you Colorado.

2193
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 2: How bad Colorado has been from eighty five to two

2194
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 2: thousand and five.

2195
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 3: That's twenty years, twenty one years.

2196
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 2: Excuse me. They had three losing seasons in twenty one years,

2197
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,280
Speaker 2: and from and from two thousand and six to twenty

2198
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 2: twenty two, seventeen years, they had fifteen losing records fifteen

2199
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 2: and seven years. Bro, that is no bueno. That is

2200
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 2: no bueno at all. And Dion come comes in, brings

2201
02:08:53,640 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 2: all this luggage, all of this stuff. I would say say,

2202
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 2: for everybody in the country's sake, they better not let

2203
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 2: Dion mess around and find.

2204
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 3: A way to win six games this year. If he

2205
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 3: finds a.

2206
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 2: Way to win six games, this this is going to

2207
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: go insane. This is going to win six games.

2208
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 1: If Dion wins six games and Florida State wins eleven,

2209
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 1: they still might fire Mark Norvell to bring Dion in.

2210
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 2: Damn.

2211
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: Like that's how that's how unlikely it is for Colorado

2212
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 1: to to have that level of a come up. You

2213
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 1: know what this team reminds me of. You got these

2214
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 1: teams out in California where nine guys on defense have offers, right, yeah,

2215
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 1: and then they give up forty points. But then you

2216
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 1: go back and look at the huddle and every single

2217
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 1: one of those kids with ten offers has like three

2218
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:52,480
Speaker 1: highlight plays, like big time highlight plays.

2219
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2220
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 1: I think that's how that defense, this defense is going

2221
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 1: to be this year.

2222
02:09:56,240 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh to where they're a collection of like everybody shine

2223
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 2: at a second, they just don't all do their job

2224
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 2: at the exact same time. YEP.

2225
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: That makes their starting corners might be Travis Hunter and

2226
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 1: Cormani McLain. Those are the two best corner prospects in

2227
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: the country coming out of high school.

2228
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 2: YEP.

2229
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 1: They've got three linebackers that were all like four and

2230
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 1: five stars that transferred in one from Clemson, one from Bama,

2231
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: one from Florida State. Uh, do this defense. I'm going

2232
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: to be watching. I'm gonna be watching every single snap

2233
02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 1: of this defense. Whether they you know, they can only

2234
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: get better. They were the worst defense in the country

2235
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: regardless of Power five Group of five last year YEP.

2236
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 1: Worst in scoring defense, worst in points per play, second

2237
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 1: to worst in total defense, second to worse than yours

2238
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:43,840
Speaker 1: per play, worst in third down conversion percentage fifty three percent.

2239
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:50,200
Speaker 1: Jesus defense. Yeah, I mean they were. They were one

2240
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:53,160
Speaker 1: hundred George. They were one hundred and thirteenth and passing

2241
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 1: defense and teams weren't passing on them. Yes, because then.

2242
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 2: It need to bro This team is ranked in explosive plays,

2243
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 2: completion percentage, quarterback ranking, yards per play, total defense. The

2244
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 2: best that they are in any of those categories is

2245
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve the best, and most of them

2246
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 2: are one hundred and twenty something or worse.

2247
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 1: And that one hundred and twelve is explosive pass, which

2248
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: is the thing your opposition doesn't want to do when

2249
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 1: they're up forty. Yes, yes, so bad.

2250
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 2: Yes, how col loss to them is embarrassing. Now this schedule,

2251
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 2: they're going.

2252
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 1: To give up like thirty points a game this year.

2253
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 1: But I think they're so much fun to watch.

2254
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so now this schedule, Colorado game at TCU loss,

2255
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, it.

2256
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 2: Is so it Oh my gods, because TCU they lost

2257
02:11:56,280 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 2: so much, they lost so much, and last year was

2258
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,360
Speaker 2: one of those special seasons. Colorado might win this game.

2259
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:07,839
Speaker 1: It's food.

2260
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:10,440
Speaker 2: I was like that. I was for so long. I

2261
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 2: was like, yo, they'll be lucky to win four games

2262
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 2: this year. But now I'm looking at this schedule and

2263
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know how good TCU is.

2264
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 1: And my issue is that it's the first game of

2265
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 1: the season, and regardless of the turnover that TCU has had,

2266
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: they had those extra games, extra practices last year, this

2267
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:30,839
Speaker 1: is gonna be like Colorado's gonna be jumping onto a treadmill.

2268
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: That's already set on eight.

2269
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, And and d is gonna have to

2270
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 2: get his footing. He's gonna have to get I think

2271
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 2: it's gonna take him a little bit too adjust to

2272
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 2: FBS ball after FCS ball. Like there, there's there's a difference.

2273
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:50,520
Speaker 2: Some stuff works, some stuff don't work. Colorado, Uh, Nebraska,

2274
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 2: Oh she was supposed to be back delictus legend?

2275
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 1: How many red? Uh? First of all, people are selling

2276
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: tickets because of Don But Nebraska fans will mortgage their shack,

2277
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:06,720
Speaker 1: they will more the willage their shack to get a

2278
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:10,640
Speaker 1: seat in fulsome So that game is gonna be so fun.

2279
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 2: All right, So who do you have in that game?

2280
02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 1: I like Nebraska, Dude, he might win one of these.

2281
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean he might. And then the next game is

2282
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,680
Speaker 2: against Colorado State? Who do you? Who do you have?

2283
02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: They'll get it. It'll drive jan Norville nuts. But but

2284
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 1: Colorado's gonna win. Dude.

2285
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 2: What if? What if they mess around and go three

2286
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 2: and oh to start the.

2287
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 1: Season, then everyone's gonna be trying to get pack twelve network.

2288
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 2: All right, next game at Oreon that's a loss. Yeah,

2289
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,720
Speaker 2: that's a pounding usc.

2290
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be goofy here and say that that's USC's

2291
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 1: one loss all year.

2292
02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:54,080
Speaker 3: If you don't stop, if you don't stop, stop joking

2293
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 3: with us.

2294
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 2: No, seriously, it would be fun.

2295
02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:59,840
Speaker 3: It would be fun, But that really wouldn't be that.

2296
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:01,640
Speaker 1: That's a loss. That's a loss.

2297
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:03,840
Speaker 2: The only way that would be fun is if they

2298
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 2: started out three and three and oh and then we're

2299
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 2: four and one. That would be the only way that

2300
02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:11,000
Speaker 2: would be fun. At Arizona State.

2301
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 1: They will be in hell.

2302
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,880
Speaker 3: Do you starting to buy into the don bro.

2303
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:18,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not.

2304
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:20,600
Speaker 1: I think they will be one by I think by

2305
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the time they get to the Stanford game. I believe

2306
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 1: they'll be one in five.

2307
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh dude.

2308
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:31,680
Speaker 1: They're not winning in Sun Devil on October seventh. Okay,

2309
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:34,160
Speaker 1: nobody is winning because you have to be there in

2310
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:38,879
Speaker 1: that heat on October seventh day game, they'll win.

2311
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 2: All right, So that gives them two wins in your book. Yeah,

2312
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 2: then they have a bye at u c l A.

2313
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:50,120
Speaker 1: No, but that's stuff that's tough for UCLA that they

2314
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:51,360
Speaker 1: have multiple teams coming out of.

2315
02:14:51,280 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 2: Buys Oregon State loss, Arizona loss, why Hington State loss?

2316
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 1: Utah Come on, man, they're too in ten.

2317
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 3: In no, no route really good in ten? You mean

2318
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:14,680
Speaker 3: two in ten?

2319
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 2: Better than one and eleven Arizona like like like way

2320
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:20,360
Speaker 2: better than that team.

2321
02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Though, like the best to in ten team of all time,

2322
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 1: to and ten, to and ten with thirteen fourteen future

2323
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 1: NFL players on.

2324
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 2: Your roster, Bro, how does Dion recover from too intent?

2325
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:37,520
Speaker 2: He can, he can go five and five and seven

2326
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:38,360
Speaker 2: and that'll be a win.

2327
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:43,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a top fifteen recruiting class both transfer

2328
02:15:43,160 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 1: and their problem.

2329
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 3: He will kick all of these kids to the curb again.

2330
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 1: That's funny. That would be so funny. And he'd reload anyway.

2331
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:58,160
Speaker 1: He's he's he's making steffinitlyne Bro, I'm telling you, I

2332
02:15:58,160 --> 02:15:59,760
Speaker 1: think they go to and ten and next year I

2333
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: think are like eight and four.

2334
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:08,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Stanford, Okay, when has Stanford ever been

2335
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:09,839
Speaker 2: talked about? Last in the PAC twelve?

2336
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, David Shaw got out right in time, didn't he.

2337
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you might say he got out two years three

2338
02:16:17,120 --> 02:16:18,000
Speaker 1: years too late, but.

2339
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 3: Nah, he got that he got that check.

2340
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were awful for a long time before Harbaugh

2341
02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:33,880
Speaker 1: and Shaw. Yes, they didn't take care of the ball.

2342
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 1: Last year that was uncharacteristic. The only game where I

2343
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 1: felt like they weren't at least competitive, even if the

2344
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: scoreboard ah. That run with UCLA Washington State Utah was

2345
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:47,279
Speaker 1: pretty bad and then losing to col.

2346
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stanford is even with their new head coach Taylor right. Yeah.

2347
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:01,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of them. Their their

2348
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:08,840
Speaker 2: roster is just consistently in flux. Their transfer portal situation

2349
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:15,960
Speaker 2: is not tenable. At least their non conference. They got

2350
02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 2: two winnable games in at Hawaiian Sack State.

2351
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 1: Are you ready for air raid Stanford, because that's what

2352
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 1: we're about to get.

2353
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 3: My brain doesn't understand.

2354
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, for four years we've been talking about intellectual

2355
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 2: brutality is broken, but it would be like stamp. I mean,

2356
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,120
Speaker 2: that's actually on par for Stanford to be like, well,

2357
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:46,119
Speaker 2: look we stunk, so let's do something completely new. Innovation baby.

2358
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:48,720
Speaker 2: But the most innovative thing they better do is get

2359
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:52,000
Speaker 2: a running defense, because they had the worst rushing defense

2360
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:53,480
Speaker 2: in all of the Power five.

2361
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,560
Speaker 1: That is true. They also turned the ball over at

2362
02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:04,280
Speaker 1: a rate that was unbelievable last year. Like to think

2363
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:06,280
Speaker 1: about the fact they probably should have beat USC in

2364
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 1: Week two but they were minus four in turnovers. I mean, man,

2365
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 1: they were doing.

2366
02:18:14,720 --> 02:18:17,600
Speaker 2: You can't win games minus four in the turnover battle.

2367
02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:19,760
Speaker 2: You can try as you will, try as you might,

2368
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 2: but but especially when your talent deficient, it's not gonna happen.

2369
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 3: So with this schedule.

2370
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:35,039
Speaker 1: At Hawaii Ralph, Okay, they're winning that game. I think.

2371
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:37,279
Speaker 3: Okay, one to no at usc.

2372
02:18:39,480 --> 02:18:41,240
Speaker 1: Uh, it's gonna be brutal.

2373
02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, sax State, they will win.

2374
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:50,000
Speaker 1: Sax State is now being victimized by the transfer portal.

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02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their coach came from zax State. So two

2376
02:18:53,920 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 2: and one Arizona, that's a loss. Two and two, Oregon

2377
02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:05,039
Speaker 2: loss two and three at Colorado.

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02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:10,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a loss.

2379
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, you get.

2380
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:16,439
Speaker 3: You gave, Yeah, you gave that game to Stanford.

2381
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:17,760
Speaker 1: Can both teams lose?

2382
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Damn.

2383
02:19:20,200 --> 02:19:23,039
Speaker 1: So that's all right, So I'm trying to keep track.

2384
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:25,199
Speaker 1: Then Stanford will be Colorado.

2385
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 3: Yes, So that's three and three.

2386
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 2: U c l a loss, three and four, Washington loss

2387
02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 2: three and five at Washington State, loss three and six

2388
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:41,279
Speaker 2: at Oregon State.

2389
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:47,400
Speaker 1: And they will lose.

2390
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:59,280
Speaker 2: They're losing three and seven Cow loss and noted. Never mind.

2391
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh so.

2392
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:04,520
Speaker 3: You got him at three and nine.

2393
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, with and the win over Colorado will probably put

2394
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:11,560
Speaker 1: Colorado last in the conference.

2395
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:15,800
Speaker 2: I guess so is that so? So? Where where would

2396
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,600
Speaker 2: they rank all time for three and nine teams? Is

2397
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:20,080
Speaker 2: this a good three and nine team? Or is this

2398
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 2: just still a bad team?

2399
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:23,520
Speaker 1: No, it's a it'll be a bad It'll be a

2400
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 1: bad team for sure. It will not be it will

2401
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:31,160
Speaker 1: not be good. I am curious to see. Uh, you

2402
02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:35,039
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the with the quarterback battle.

2403
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:40,680
Speaker 1: They they still are running a three team con or

2404
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:46,279
Speaker 1: three three player contests. You're familiar with Ari Potu, right.

2405
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:50,920
Speaker 2: Yep, and his dad played together at Oregon saw pot.

2406
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:53,560
Speaker 1: He's probably your most athletic option.

2407
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,720
Speaker 3: Right, and his two brothers are at Arizona.

2408
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 2: Well, one brother's at Arizona, just transferred from cow then

2409
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:00,640
Speaker 2: his other brother just commit to tearris On.

2410
02:21:00,959 --> 02:21:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ashton Daniels is an interesting one for me because

2411
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:08,840
Speaker 1: he played out at Buford in Georgia and they don't throw. Ever,

2412
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:10,840
Speaker 1: that's where Dylan Royola is now, the you know, the

2413
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:12,720
Speaker 1: guy who everybody thinks is number one playing in the country.

2414
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 1: They don't throw, and so him, you know, going into

2415
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 1: an ariid concept is is gonna be really interesting to me.

2416
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:22,039
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but good things about Ashton Daniels, but

2417
02:21:22,360 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 1: if it was I went in thinking it was gonna

2418
02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:29,440
Speaker 1: between Ari POTTSU and Justin Daniels. And what seems to

2419
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:32,160
Speaker 1: be coming out of Stanford Camp is that Justin Lampson

2420
02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:33,119
Speaker 1: is going to win this job.

2421
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:35,520
Speaker 3: Justin Lambson.

2422
02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:37,000
Speaker 1: Justin Lambson.

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02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So is that good for them or bad for them?

2424
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:51,560
Speaker 1: Uh? This is a high school all state safety who

2425
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:57,000
Speaker 1: is from El Dorado, who is playing quarterback. He's big,

2426
02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:03,160
Speaker 1: he's a good athlete. He played Oakridge. I don't know

2427
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:07,080
Speaker 1: if you ever saw him, no, but he was out

2428
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:11,160
Speaker 1: at he was out at Syracuse. He his transfer was recent.

2429
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, man, he is really the wild

2430
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:23,920
Speaker 1: card for me. Brandon Huffman, when he was coming out

2431
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:26,240
Speaker 1: of high school, said that he reminded him of Colson Yankov.

2432
02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:28,320
Speaker 1: Didn't Colson Yankov switch positions?

2433
02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 2: Yes he did. It's a tidy end.

2434
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:34,000
Speaker 1: So we might have we might have, we might have

2435
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:37,160
Speaker 1: ourselves another what was the boy from from? We might

2436
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:43,120
Speaker 1: have ourselves another Jake Lockers situation. I would love it.

2437
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 1: I would love it as far as college football goes,

2438
02:22:45,640 --> 02:22:46,760
Speaker 1: if you can go out there, be a t Bow,

2439
02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: be a Jake Locker and just out athlete people and

2440
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:53,240
Speaker 1: be big and strong and fun. What the hell you know?

2441
02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 1: But that's what the news that's coming out of Stanford makes.

2442
02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 1: It really seem like a guy that we didn't think

2443
02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:01,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be in the mix is gonna win this thing.

2444
02:23:01,400 --> 02:23:04,200
Speaker 1: And that makes me wonder, you know, is already pot

2445
02:23:04,240 --> 02:23:06,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna stick around? Is Ashton Daniel's gonna stick around?

2446
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:09,119
Speaker 1: Because I think both those guys will be in high demand.

2447
02:23:09,959 --> 02:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Yes, they definitely will be, and we will see how

2448
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,480
Speaker 2: Stanford finishes up.

2449
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 3: But we are what next week? Next week?

2450
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:25,160
Speaker 2: We we got a preview show next week, Ralph, Yeah,

2451
02:23:25,320 --> 02:23:29,000
Speaker 2: a preview show because we got football.

2452
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:31,360
Speaker 3: On the twenty sixth.

2453
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:36,959
Speaker 2: Wait wait, no that's not yet. That's nine days from now. Yes, yes, yes,

2454
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 2: you guys though, we still got so much to go.

2455
02:23:42,320 --> 02:23:44,200
Speaker 2: And thank you guys for joining us on the PAC

2456
02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 2: twelve apostles. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amson. Peace out,

2457
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 2: cat you guys later