WEBVTT - The MEN of M2M: Dr. Eugene Harris and Cecil Whitmore

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<v Speaker 2>and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Reality with the King, this is a very special moment.

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<v Speaker 2>As you all know, my favorite show in Bravo is

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<v Speaker 2>Martion Madison.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yes, we do messy Mondays with Doctor Hemny.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to quad hows that you know, we have.

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<v Speaker 1>A good olkey key.

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<v Speaker 2>But today I'm here with the two men, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>who are the force multipliers of the show. I am

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<v Speaker 2>talking about doctor Eugene.

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<v Speaker 1>And see some appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me something, You give me something.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I ain't from Detroit, but I lived there

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<v Speaker 4>about three years.

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<v Speaker 1>You did you know?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't know that that's where they met.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have a court Toya.

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<v Speaker 5>That I didn't go there to court Toya, but I was.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where we met.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was a chief resident of Detroit receiving.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you meet Toya in the first place? So

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<v Speaker 1>funny story.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh So, basically, when I was on my ICU rotation,

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<v Speaker 5>I met a nurse. It was kind of flirty. I

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<v Speaker 5>knew she had a boyfriend. But I thought she was cute,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was not really talking to were talking to her,

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<v Speaker 5>but she invited me to go out to this event.

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<v Speaker 5>At the event, they were doing speed dating on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side of the restaurant. So we're at the bar,

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<v Speaker 5>we're sitting there. It's the nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>I showed up with Toya. The nurse had a boyfriend. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we were cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You I was want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did. We did. We did a fold speed

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<v Speaker 1>dating at our table.

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<v Speaker 5>When I speed dated with the other girl that was there,

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, like, how many baby daddies you got?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know the girl had several baby daddies. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. It was a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>But when I speed dated with Toya, I actually liked her.

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<v Speaker 5>So later on when we left, I told the nurse

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<v Speaker 5>that I was there with.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I like your girl. I like Toya.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you gotta hook that up Toy Toya,

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<v Speaker 5>and this nurse told Toya he ain't got enough money

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<v Speaker 5>for you what. So that's how Toya called me, basically

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<v Speaker 5>thinking to be like, hey, I don't know what she

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<v Speaker 5>told you, but I ain't that tight blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, hey, I want to take you out.

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<v Speaker 5>She said, I got a paper I got to write.

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<v Speaker 5>She was like, I got to rewrite it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>She was in her master's program. She was like, they

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<v Speaker 5>said I played arry something. I was like, I'll rewrite

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<v Speaker 5>it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I rewrote her paper. Level the next level wrote

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<v Speaker 4>her paper. You rewrote with tor thesis.

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<v Speaker 1>Paper with the no, not her thesis.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just a paper paper, did the notations the

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<v Speaker 4>proper way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, day, wait a minute, hold and then

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<v Speaker 2>in the rest of history this is before y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Day one doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>We been spent twenty dollars on the two for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>apple by.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked her. You rewrote Toya's paper. It was something

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<v Speaker 1>about it, something about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hooked over. It was over.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like like you get that first bumps, it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Toy is my drug. I have no idea that was.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've heard media crackhead that to my drug.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh whoy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've always been sprang from day one. It has

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<v Speaker 1>never changed. No, we we have, don't get wrong, a handful,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you love that handful. I love the handful. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I heard this story. That's that's a really good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to hear how you and Simone met and

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<v Speaker 2>how did you snag doctor Simone.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're a spell House connection.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those outside of Georgia, that is Spellman, the

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<v Speaker 2>all girl black accredited college, and then more House, the

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<v Speaker 2>all black male accredited college.

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<v Speaker 6>But we ended up being in the same apartment complex,

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<v Speaker 6>and still Georgia, a lot of the more House and

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<v Speaker 6>Spelman students lived there. So Simone and her girlfriend were

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<v Speaker 6>coming in from their car. I had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>guys over my place. We were playing video games. They

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<v Speaker 6>walk up and my boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, here come these girls. He come to girls.

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<v Speaker 3>My roommate and one other guy ran out and was

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<v Speaker 3>like hey, hey, hey, come inside. And they came in.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm playing video games and my boy, my roommate was

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<v Speaker 6>like he had as soon as he saw someone.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, that's my girl right there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going with some mom and so young girl. He

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<v Speaker 6>about to steal girl. No, So I'm playing video games.

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<v Speaker 6>They come in. The two ladies come in. I was okay,

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<v Speaker 6>see Simone, see the other girls, Like dang, she sounded nice.

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<v Speaker 6>But my boy was like this my girl, I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>with it. So I let him roll with it for

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<v Speaker 6>a long time. I was like, it's a long time,

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<v Speaker 6>you know in college. A couple of weeks, right, A

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<v Speaker 6>couple of weeks. I was like, okay, And so I asked.

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<v Speaker 3>Him one day. I was like, so it's you and

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<v Speaker 3>some moll y'all. Y'all cool. He was like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>we good. Were good.

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<v Speaker 6>So some mom hit me up one day and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I got a waterbed and my waterbed isn't working.

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<v Speaker 3>I need somebody to fix my waterbed. An eighties eighties.

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<v Speaker 6>Load, so you know you're fixing turnpapers, I'm fixing water bed.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're fixing waterbed.

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<v Speaker 3>This eighties though, loas right.

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<v Speaker 6>So she's like, my waterbed, I said, I got a

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<v Speaker 6>water bed back in La.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come down there and I'll hook you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really have one?

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a water bed, went downstairs, fixed her waterbed.

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<v Speaker 6>She was like, you're the best. I'm gonna make you dinner.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like, oh cool, I'm in college.

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<v Speaker 3>So I go down. She makes some chicken wings, and.

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<v Speaker 4>This story actually so welcome to reality.

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<v Speaker 6>She makes these chicken wings, makes a nice little dish.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a good food and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>and so we're down there, said hey.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know I appreciate this. This is so sweet.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I know you and my man y'all going

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<v Speaker 6>out and hanging out. She was like, I'm not with

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<v Speaker 6>your man at all. I was like, what she said,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not with him. So when I got back up.

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<v Speaker 3>To our our apartment, I said, hey, are you and

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<v Speaker 3>you and Simone are y'all hanging?

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, now that that's my girl. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>once he said that, I was like, okay, but did

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<v Speaker 6>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>A conversation with him to be like hey.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>When I went upstairs, I asked him. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>are you you and Simona are y'all dating? And he

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<v Speaker 6>was like he finally came clean and was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's my girl when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Come clean and say she cooked me dinner and I fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew that. He knew that because he knew I

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<v Speaker 3>fixed the waterbed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, so you were knowing college for fixing water?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I fix everything?

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<v Speaker 3>I do it all? I do it all.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a renaissance man, I'm a morehouse man. I'm cooking,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fixing stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a rental and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're also you know, a main ingredient in the Maritime

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine show. I am obsessed with this show. I am

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciative of you two coming because look, the show

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<v Speaker 2>is successful, not only because of the strong women who

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<v Speaker 2>are fantastic, all of them past present, and even the

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<v Speaker 2>ones coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fantastic show.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's be clear, without the men, the show will

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<v Speaker 2>just be another female ensemble docu series, which will be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't feel like the men on the show

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<v Speaker 1>get the props that y'all deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>So when doctor Eugene hit me up on Twitter, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I take off serious, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you hit me up on Twitter said you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to come on, and then Cecil said, yeah, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 1>Break up on? I said why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I love the show so much and I did

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<v Speaker 2>create this podcast so that people can have a voice

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to hear about the two of you

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<v Speaker 2>and what y'all think. So do y'all wives know that

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<v Speaker 2>y'all are here today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course. How did that go? Well? Toy, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to show Toya for some reason it acts like.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't been on the show with her for ten years,

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<v Speaker 5>Toya said, and I quote, have a good interview, talk

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<v Speaker 5>less to think more, and they are not your therapists.

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<v Speaker 5>So I hit her with a couple couple couple of means.

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<v Speaker 5>And my response was like, you think after ten years,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't know how to conduct myself, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think the great thing about our show, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not just the fact that we got met here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually more of the couples.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, for a while, we were the one of

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<v Speaker 5>the only shows that had all married ensemble. If you

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<v Speaker 5>really think about it, there was you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>what else was it? Blackish kind of you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>but besides that, even the housewives really aren't they weren't

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<v Speaker 5>they weren't married, you know, half of you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So to to just be able to showcase.

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<v Speaker 5>In a reality format married couples, the things we go through,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I think is important.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what I.

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<v Speaker 5>See from from you know, the Twitter, artience, Instagram and

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<v Speaker 5>just just meeting people, you know, people, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially guys. A lot of guys watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Our show and they're like, man, I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 5>showing you know, how you are with your kids, how

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<v Speaker 5>you are with your wife. Man, me and my wife

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<v Speaker 5>went through that, you know, and even some of you

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<v Speaker 5>know me and my wife, we're very open, like even

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<v Speaker 5>financial stuff we put out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You know people are like, Man, I had

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<v Speaker 1>that problem too.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know people that were doctors had that problem,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like and but it resonates, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>that's why we're we're so open because we know it

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<v Speaker 5>may help somebody, you know. So I think it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a great show case of black families, you know, black fathers,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, black husbands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I think it's important to put out there.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's not anywhere else. No.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the reason why the show is so good

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<v Speaker 2>is because of all of those components that make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you told Toya you were talking to Carlos King,

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<v Speaker 2>she was cool with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I love Toya. Okay, now you're white.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, Doctor Simone.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, I'm her favorite blogger in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love doctor Simone. So when you told doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Simone that you was hopping on Carlos King's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So Carlos, let me say this.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me say this first up before I even start,

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<v Speaker 6>I got to give you big props for even allowing

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<v Speaker 6>us to come on. I mean, we've been on TV

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<v Speaker 6>for ten years and we've never had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 6>come out and talk about the show. So I really

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate you doing this first. Let me say that. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 6>I know it came off kind of strange with the

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<v Speaker 6>whole blogger thing, but trust me when I tell you this.

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<v Speaker 6>Simone and I both are huge fans of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we are huge fans of yours.

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<v Speaker 6>We cheer you on on all the shows you do,

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<v Speaker 6>We watch them. We tweeted out. Simone is just a

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<v Speaker 6>different animal. And Eugene will understand what I'm saying when

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<v Speaker 6>I go a little bit further with this. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>really do reality. I mean, she doesn't do social media.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe that she's not. She doesn't really get into

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<v Speaker 6>all the stuff that a lot of the ladies do

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<v Speaker 6>when it comes to going to events talking about their

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<v Speaker 6>true and so when she made the comment about bloggers,

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<v Speaker 6>it wasn't specific to you. She was talking about all

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<v Speaker 6>of the interviews that Simonda, I mean that Quad had done.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't your.

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<v Speaker 6>Interview specifically because we both watch your interviews, we watch

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<v Speaker 6>your podcast because I personally think no one else is

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<v Speaker 6>doing anything close to what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it is truly interesting stuff that we can't

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<v Speaker 6>get anywhere else, and we watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, and so I know it came off like

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I want her to know that, because you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>it came back to me, I know this. We all

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<v Speaker 1>like to have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do this because, like I said, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>my show, not my creation.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it because I love it. I love you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the genre.

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<v Speaker 2>I have this platform to promote us black people to

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<v Speaker 2>really have a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know me and about are good.

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<v Speaker 2>I want the world to know that we have fun

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<v Speaker 2>with it, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want anyone to think that it's serious. It's really just fun. Shade.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun, Shade. It's fun. But I love her

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you, and she loves you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. You got to prove to up here, Yes

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<v Speaker 6>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>She gave me the same kind of rules the Eugenia.

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<v Speaker 6>I probably got three different messages about what I should

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<v Speaker 6>say and don't go too far.

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<v Speaker 3>She was saying, you know, don't drink on this show.

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<v Speaker 6>She didn't want me to be like on Club Shad

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<v Speaker 6>Shade get drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we got water.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I appreciate that, and I love your wives, but

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys, and I want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>This season has been explosive. It's the highest rted season

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<v Speaker 2>ever in Marriti Medicine history. There's a lot that's been

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<v Speaker 2>happening this season, but there's a lot that happened prior

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<v Speaker 2>to this that led up to why this season is

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<v Speaker 2>so great. When it comes to marrit To Medicine, do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have any regrets or had any regrets signing

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<v Speaker 2>up to do the show, because it's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>grew up wanting to be on television and your wives

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<v Speaker 2>didn't either. But when this show came around and you

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<v Speaker 2>saw all the attention that it received, were there are

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<v Speaker 2>moments in your marriages where you sort of questioned whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not this show was healthy enough to sustain your

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<v Speaker 2>healthy marriage.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I can start because when we did the year

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<v Speaker 6>Fire reunion and Simone announced that we were getting divorced,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's the most watched reunion on Bravo. I

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<v Speaker 6>was after I walked off stage, I was like, as

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<v Speaker 6>much as this has been a interest in journey, we

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<v Speaker 6>should have came off of here a year or two

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<v Speaker 6>before because I just felt like this is a disaster.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the truth be told is that it actually saved

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<v Speaker 6>our marriage. And I know people like, how does a

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<v Speaker 6>reality show save your marriage?

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<v Speaker 3>But Simone and I are stubborn.

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<v Speaker 6>We were not talking, so we had already made them

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<v Speaker 6>in our minds like, Okay, you're ready to move on.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ready to move on. You don't want to talk.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to talk. But then we come to

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<v Speaker 6>the reunion, you have to talk. And not only do

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<v Speaker 6>you have to talk, your friends are also talking to you,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're saying things to you like, see, so are

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<v Speaker 6>you sure about this? Are you going to let the

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<v Speaker 6>devil come in between you and your marriage? And it

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<v Speaker 6>hit me and I was like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't done enough. So as much as people sometimes down

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<v Speaker 6>and talk about how bad reality TV is, truthfully tell

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<v Speaker 6>you that without it, Simon, I would be divorced. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that entire season and even the reunion, and

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<v Speaker 2>to see how the couples rallied around you guys in

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<v Speaker 2>tears to say this marriage I thought it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why the show is great is because

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<v Speaker 2>it is real friendships, and you guys may fight and bicker,

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<v Speaker 2>but fundamentally it is about real friendships in that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to season five, obviously the biggest controversy was

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<v Speaker 2>that you had a female.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend named Tammy, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It appeared that Tammy was coming in between your marriage

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<v Speaker 2>with Simone. The fact that you would hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>this woman as a married man, the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys would have conversations as a married man.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you and Tammy ever cross the line?

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<v Speaker 6>It never crossed the line. Simone never thought we crossed

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<v Speaker 6>the line. We were really good friends. I mean like

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<v Speaker 6>that was like a sister to me. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>that we didn't understand the dynamic. I know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>understand the dynamic of how it was affecting someone because

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 6>they were hanging out. I mean, they went to London together,

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<v Speaker 6>and someone went to London together without you, without me,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I'm thinking, Okay, she we're cool. She's cool

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<v Speaker 6>with someone without me. But after someone explained to me

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<v Speaker 6>how she was feeling, that's when I was like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Initially I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because was Tammy, friends with you first or someone else.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she was a work friend. She she we worked

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<v Speaker 6>together at Coca Cola.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all worked together Coca.

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<v Speaker 6>Cola, played golf, hung out. She's just a good person

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<v Speaker 6>and became a friend. She married, not she was divorced,

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<v Speaker 6>but she had become a friend of the family, friend

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<v Speaker 6>of us, friend of someone's mom, her sister.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she was she was truly like family.

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<v Speaker 6>But it did get to a place where someone got

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<v Speaker 6>uncomfortable because she felt like she was spending.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much time with the family, too much time with me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I didn't get that concept because I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>wait a minute, I mean, this is family, Like, why

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<v Speaker 6>would we push back from family?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Reason why when we were going through our issues, I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't get it. And that's the reason why I was like, well,

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.200
<v Speaker 6>if that's the issue, then I'm that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't make sense. I'm gonna go ahead and move.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go this way, you go that way, because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand what you're talking about. Until we got to.

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<v Speaker 6>The reunion and she started explaining to me what heard

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<v Speaker 6>her about it. And then once she explained to me

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 6>what hurt her about the situation. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, I haven't done everything in my power to

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<v Speaker 6>try to fix it. And so when I got back

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<v Speaker 6>to Atlanta, Tammy and I had a conversation and I

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<v Speaker 6>fixed it.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that conversation go between you and Tammy?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it wasn't the best It wasn't the best conversation,

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<v Speaker 6>but she was truly a friend. So when we had

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 6>the conversation, she was hurt, but at the same time,

0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 6>she was like, see so I totally get it. I

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 6>totally get it, and I understand what you got to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And from that point, I mean, we met at Spondivids.

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<v Speaker 6>We were sitting at the bar, having drinks, having a

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<v Speaker 6>good time. We had the conversation. I haven't talked to her.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw her one other time at a friend's birthday party.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 6>We hung out at a birthday party. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't talked to her six years, five six years.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's the power of the show, I think is

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<v Speaker 5>that we're being very most of us are being very

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 5>genuine with our lives. Most of us and most of

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 5>us are being very genuine with our lives, and a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people are going through these same things. And

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<v Speaker 5>life's not black and white. It's a lot of shades

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<v Speaker 5>of gray, and so I can see as a man

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<v Speaker 5>being very confused in that situation, like, okay with my

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.640
<v Speaker 5>wife's cool with her, what's the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>But I think a lot of men who are watching

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 5>the show probably gained some insight on your wife doesn't

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 5>think like you think, you know, and so there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lesson to be learned there, and so putting that out

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<v Speaker 5>there has helped who knows how many people's marriage?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because even okay, because again I watched the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think what was unclear for I'll just speak

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<v Speaker 2>myself for me was if Tammy and Samone are traveling together,

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 2>They're going to London, gathers for the family, you guys

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>were together, She comes to the crib, she plays with

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the kids, you know, all these things. What changed where

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Simone felt that I no longer want this woman around

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 2>my husband? Like, was there anything specific? Was it the

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.479
<v Speaker 2>fact that you two were spending too much one on

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 2>one time together? Did Tammy in a properly sent you

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 2>a text message?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the moment in Simon's mind that shifted that

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 2>this is no longer something I'm okay with.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and that's a that's a beautiful question. And

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that this is the right answer, but

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I will say this. There was a.

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<v Speaker 6>Time where Tammy had a flat tire and she called

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<v Speaker 6>me and said, hey, I'm on the side of the road.

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I got a flat tire. Can you come and helped

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 3>me out?

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<v Speaker 6>And I went and I said okay, And I told

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 6>someone said, hey, Tammy's on the side of the road,

0:23:59.000 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 6>I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna help.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that maybe how I moved on that, like

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 6>I moved so fast, like it was like I gotta

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 6>go help Tammy.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that might have been.

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 6>A trigger for someone to be like, okay, wait a minute,

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't get this saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I can I offer a different perspective, please do, because

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 5>me and Toya have had a conversation similar I think

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 5>for well, I was gonna say a woman, but actually

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 5>it could be either either gender.

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think when.

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<v Speaker 5>Your spouse is confiding in the opposite sex about your relationship,

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 5>it becomes problematic, like you can be friends with them,

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 5>but don't talk to them about our relationship. So once

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<v Speaker 5>like surface stuff I think is okay. But if me

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<v Speaker 5>and Toya get into an argument and I call a

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<v Speaker 5>female friend to get advice about the argument. That's when

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<v Speaker 5>it becomes an issue for Toya.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And I think that's fair. But that wasn't. That

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't our relationship. That was not relationship. But that is fair.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That is a fair point because I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>You jump really fast to go jump start at someone's car,

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 2>got a flat tire?

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Jump start?

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<v Speaker 2>No I'm saying that, but no, because I now again

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to sort of like paint a picture for

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I understand that.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>If I am at home and my husband is doing

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<v Speaker 2>him and he comes into the room and says, Babe,

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go town.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I got a flat tire.

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 2>I gotta pump it up right, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 2>And she sees you sweating, and she said, you got

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 2>your running nikes.

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>On and you are in the car paddle to the metal.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand why she's sort of like, now, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you rushing to do that for her?

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this, were you ever attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to Tammy?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Never?

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Never?

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Is she an attractive woman.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>She's an attractive woman.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean, I like all I like them I

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<v Speaker 6>mean some of my friends would say. Some of my

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 6>friends would be like, okay, yeah, I know Cecil was

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 6>not attractive to Tammy. But the truth to the matter

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 6>is she's such a sweet lady, she's such a beautiful

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 6>spirit that she's an attractive woman. I just wasn't attracted to her.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean, but we played golf together, we hung out.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 6>I mean, she's one of the nicest people you ever meet.

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 6>But at the same time running out the way I

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 6>did for her. And you know, of course, when you're married,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 6>when you're in a relationship, people never feel like you

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 6>jump when they ask, right yes, And I probably didn't

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 6>jump every time someone ass and so to see me

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 6>jump in this occasion. And then when there was a

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 6>time when we had a snowstorm and someone was over

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 6>at North Side Hospital and I asked her like, are

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 6>you sure you need me to come get get you?

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I think she tied those two together and.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 6>Bingo, yeah, do you miss Tammy? I mean, yes, I do.

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 6>I do I miss Tammy.

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Because we were in a golf group and now I'm

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 6>not in the golf group anymore, all the guys cut

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 6>me for Tammy. So we used to play in a golf.

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You mean to tell me your homeboys in the golf group.

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't get anybody anymore. I get zero in.

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But they chose Tammy over you.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 3>They did, I mean they did, and I understand it.

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 5>So I didn't know that I'm gonna learn how to

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 5>play golf.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I played with her, I mean, but why so? It

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>is she a good golfer.

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 3>She's a good golfer. She's a good golfer. But she's

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 3>just a nice person.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 2>But I think you're the nicest Thank you, But I

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 2>think so.

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I really do love you. I think you're the nicest

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>guy in the world.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate that color and I try to be nice.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 6>But at the same time, I wasn't mad at my

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 6>guys for stop inviting me out to play golf. I

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 6>don't play with those guys anymore. And these are some

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 6>of the people. I introduced Tammy to these guys, and

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't play in that group anymore.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I got new guys now.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, Tammy, I mean, it's Tammy in

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a relationship.

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 6>Now, I don't know, Like I said, I haven't talked

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 6>to her in like five plus years.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever resent Simone for not being able to

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>continue this friendship. And now even hearing that you lost

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>your golf friends because of you ending.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>This friendship, I didn't resent her at all.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 6>I made a conscious decision when we were in New

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 6>York at the reunion talking about it, that you know

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 6>what if, because at that point, I mean, I've been

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 6>married twenty years, so I'm like, you know what if

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 6>this is gonna jeopardize me move be for my wife,

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 6>then I gotta let it go. And so I don't,

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 6>I don't falter. I'm totally fine with it. I'd make

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 6>the same decision tomorrow.

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 3>But she was my friend.

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So what you guys mentioned earlier is you

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like the majority of y'all showcase your realized who

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>do you think on the show is not showcasing.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Their real life?

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Who's not here?

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Jackie and Curtis all right?

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 5>Put its way, when I think in the if you

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.239
<v Speaker 5>look back in the show and you don't see a

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of scenes in the person's home, I don't think

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 5>those people are showing their authentic self. Like there's there's

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 5>certain people I haven't I've never even stepped foot in

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 5>their homes.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>From a camera, stem from a you know, well, like

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 3>they don't show it.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well no, you physically well, i'd say wait into

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 5>a different times. Well, I think physical camera wise, there's

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 5>some people you don't really see their life that much

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 5>in their home. I think those people aren't being one

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 5>hundred percent authentic with everything. Yeah, they're showing a representation

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 5>of themselves.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'll just leave it at that. So as we're

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about doctor Jack and Kurtis, I didn't say that,

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you said that do what does Curtis do in the

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Dominican Republic?

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 6>So what he explained to us is that he's in

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 6>a group and they're looking to build a resort and

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 6>a part of the dr that's not fully established.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>He told it was a development deal. But that's that's

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>all we know. We don't know anything else.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 4>What's so funny, I don't know, you're looking around like

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 4>there's more today that we don't know anything else.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>All because I saw flies fly ro because there was

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a bullshing.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So allegedly Curtis is in the men of Republic building

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a resort.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean no, I mean not even allegedly. I mean

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 6>he sent out the pamphlet. We saw the pamphlet where

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 6>he's one of the partners of this development group.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean Jackie understands it.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 6>Jackie sends it out and shows people he's part of

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 6>a development group building a resort in the dr Now

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 6>we done. We haven't gotten an invite to go, so

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen it with my own eyes.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>When Curtis got caught at Atlanta Hartsbille International Airport going

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>through Spirit Airlines.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Near frontier holding hands with a woman.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Carrying coach luggage, were you guys aware at that time

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>that he was having an affair?

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>No, you never rebuilt.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 3>No, and Curtis and I were friends. I mean I

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 3>met kurt Is.

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean I knew Jackie before they got married, and

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 6>so I make characters as soon as she met him.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 6>But no, we were not hanging out like that. I

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 6>mean I didn't know that he was. I didn't know

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 6>he had somebody on the side.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>If you two would have known that he was cheating

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>on Jackie, would you have told your wives?

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Uh, Eugenie, you want to answer first, because that's a

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 6>great question, because I think I know what Eugene is

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 6>gonna say.

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Me and Toya pretty open with each other. Pillow talk.

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Beyond pillows, some kind of way. We Yeah, I mean,

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, keep it.

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 5>What probably would have done is real talk, my my.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 5>My kind of general thing with this is heyto taught

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 5>to Jackie, because just just make sure she's okay relationship wise.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 5>And I probably would have left it at that now,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 5>like because I now. One thing I don't like doing

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 5>is it's like acting like I know something that I

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 5>don't now just because I see somebody with somebody, I'm

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 5>not going to assume is what I think it looks like,

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 5>because it could be something totally different. For instance, I

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 5>saw a friend the other day.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a lawyer.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 5>He was in a restaurant with a blond right, he's married.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 5>Now I think he was. He was on a business meeting,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 5>you know. But if you if you didn't know that

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 5>and you just ran with it and said, hey, you

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 5>know he over there with with this girl, you know, like,

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 5>that's that's wrong to put out, that's assuming. So just

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 5>because I see somebody out with somebody, I don't know

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 5>if that's his cousin, I don't know, if that's his

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 5>daughter's friend that he's you know, like I don't know

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 5>he's got a grown daughter that his daughter could have

0:33:58.600 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>been in the bathroom and that could have been he

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 5>could have been you know, like, it could have been

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 5>all kinds.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Of different scenarios.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 5>So I would have just been like, hey saw something,

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 5>don't know what it was, just check on Jackie.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Weis would have told you told me that. He wouldn't

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have told you. Guys that would have told me.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 3>He might he might would have telled me. I wouldn't tell.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't tell someone because the other part of the

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 6>equation is is that I see so many times where

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 6>people go back and tell and then the person forgives

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 6>the person and now you're the you're the god man out.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 6>So I would never do it.

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 5>I would never take Now, if he told me that,

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 5>my conversation with the man would have been a counseling.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Now that's different.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>That's different.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I would have a I have a conversation,

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 3>a conversation.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, Look, I've had what can we do other than that.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 6>I've had multiple friends. I've had multiple friends that had

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 6>gotten off track, and we've had conversations. Sometimes the conversations

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 6>go well, sometimes the conversations don't. But I'm going to

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 6>have a conversation with the guy. I'm not going back

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 6>and telling the wife though.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no that I mean, listen, I think that's what

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 2>all men would do if if we're all being honest.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Besides Eugene, they're watching Judy.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>But other than that, this is the thing about maritive medicine,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and again, as a producer, this is what I feel

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>is missing. I love doctor Jackie. I think she's fantastic

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>on the show. She's what's needed for the show. She's

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>the medicine Marathon medicine. We were exposed to some infidelity

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 2>within her and Curtis marriage. I feel like ever since

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that was exposed, we just don't see anything, and it

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>begs the question of what's happening.

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 5>Curtis is a pretty private person, like so of the

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 5>guys on the show. I'm probably closest with Cecil. I've

0:35:53.840 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 5>known Damon probably the longest and right after Damon Gregory.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 5>But I do know Curtis is a pretty private person.

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Like we're not friends, Like we talk on the phone.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, obviously we filmed together, but that's our interaction

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 5>and I think we're good.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But I understand that he is not the person who's

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going to.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.479
<v Speaker 5>Share everything of his life before the infidelity or after,

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 5>and so he's just not the type to be filming,

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 5>like we film, it's just not gonna happen.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 2>So you feel a lot. I do, and we love

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 2>seeing that. There has been tons of people. Doctor Heavenly

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 2>has called you sassy. She believes you are a sassy man.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you think.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>When you hear that?

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Because you're married to a woman who's on this show

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>that's very opinionated and the show is about couples. When

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>you hear that someone like Doctor Heavenly thinks you're sassy?

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Does that offend you? No? Put its way? I actually

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I laugh it off. You know. I think a couple

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of things.

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 5>One, I think this notion of manhood I think has

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 5>gotten the script has been. We've gotten off on. Like

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 5>if you're not in this mold that people think you're

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 5>supposed to be, right, yeah, then then you're either hyper

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 5>masculine or you as sissy, you know, sassy, whatever you

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 5>gin up, whatever you don't.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Call whatever, I don't, I don't really give it.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm gonna buy hi address, like, okay, make

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 5>it a nice one. I know what I am, you know,

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 5>like I know what I am and I know what

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 5>I answer to you know. But I think there's different

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 5>ways to be a man, you know, like manhood isn't

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 5>one singular thing, just like womanhood is not one singular thing,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 5>you know. And but this whole notion of women's business

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 5>and that that kind of thing, Like if we were

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 5>to rewind thirty years ars ago, the women wouldn't have.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Had anything to say.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 5>We would have we'd just been man talk and we

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 5>would have squashed them and say no, you also stay

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 5>in your place, don't say anything. But I think, you know,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 5>society is kind of overcorrected and oversteered where now women

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 5>are in this thing where we have a voice and

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 5>we're supposed to be equal, but now we're trying to

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 5>tear men down to not be able to have something

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 5>to say. My thing with the show is, you know,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 5>we're all here, we're all filming, we're all you know,

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 5>have you know, you know, if you're talking about my family,

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 5>I should have something to say. That's not you know,

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 5>me being sassy, like I'm speaking up either for my

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 5>wife or my family or for myself, Like you don't

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 5>get to talk about my family and I don't have

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 5>an opinion, just you know, like I just don't see

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:50.959
<v Speaker 5>why we're trying to silence a man's voice, because thirty

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 5>years ago we were trying to silence women's voice and

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 5>we said that was wrong, you know, and so it's

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 5>equally wrong to silence my voice as well. So you know,

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't really care about the sassy comments or the

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Ugina comments or.

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 4>But the thing about Okay's say, I know who I am.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I know who I am, and we love that you

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>are who you are, and we love that you as

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>a black man, you're very secure in your skin.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>When and I said it to Quad and I said

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it's to Toya.

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>When Quad called you Ugina, I did think, like, Okay,

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that's too far.

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 1>And I said this to her.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 5>There's been other things she said that I think we're further,

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 5>like what than Ugina, Like like like the stuff about

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 5>me and Toya were drunk driving with our kids, that

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 5>was further, you know, Like the stuff about we might

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 5>have robbed Kieran and Aneila, that was further. You know,

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Like those are those are things that I take offense to,

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 5>and those are things I actually have said something about.

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 5>But then when I say something, it's we're gonna get

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 5>him addressed. I'm like, well, you kind of don't get

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 5>to say what you want about my family doing something criminal,

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.439
<v Speaker 5>and I don't get to say something, you know, because

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm a physician, like and you know some of the

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 5>stuff that Jackie's been saying lately about you know, you

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 5>don't get to say something about a physician like it's

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 5>it's the stakes are a little higher for us, you know,

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 5>because even though uh, you know, I have to I

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 5>have to get certified to work at these hospitals. And

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 5>if the CEO at the hospital looks at the show

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 5>and says, oh, he might be a criminal, you know,

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 5>like what if he says, well, I don't want him

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 5>working here. You know, I don't want Jackie working at

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 5>that hospital, and that that that that that that affects

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 5>my longevity and my ability to take care of patients

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 5>that I love, take care of my family that I love. Like,

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 5>you don't get just say I'm doing something criminal with

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 5>no proof. And so those are the times that I've

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 5>said something and people have been like, oh, well, you

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 5>stay out of women's business. No, that's not women's business.

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 5>This is this is everybody business. This is my business.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Now you're talking about my business, you know.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, and you know the thing that's disappointing about it.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 6>And you know, I hate to go to the whole

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 6>race thing, but I do believe that it happens more on.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 3>The Black shows.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 6>Oh, you know, on the Black shows, if a man

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 6>has anything to say, he's being sassy, and you know,

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 6>and I love Nini, but I think when Nini started

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 6>out with Peter about being you know, Patricia and so forth,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 6>I think she started the narrative that if a guy

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 6>has anything to say, that he's in women's business and

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.720
<v Speaker 6>he shouldn't have anything.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 3>To say on this show.

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 6>The other side to the coin is, as you know,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 6>they're asking our opinions. Yeah, we're coming out and they're

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 6>asking our opinion to.

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Speak on it.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 6>Now, sometimes we'll say things and sometimes we might decide,

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 6>you know what, I'm not going to speak on that.

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And for me, that's not why we like this show.

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Because you you made a good point.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Marrition Medicine is the first black reality show that focused

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 2>on married couples. And because of Maritime Medicine doing that

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>so successfully, and you may having opinions, I'm able to

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>have creative loving marriage. You know, a show to where

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 2>both men and women have an opinion. Now, the difference

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>with that show is they're all main stars of it,

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and they all get paid. You guys do not get paid.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>No American Madison, Right, do you feel like it's time

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>for you guys to get paid on the show?

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And no.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 5>Now do I do I want to have the schedule

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 5>that my wife has with the show.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. I'm not.

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not I'm not available to film five times a week. Okay,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 5>this is a part time kind of gig for me

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 5>when we're filming. But but do I I think the

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 5>audience when looking at it, wouldn't know that we're getting paid.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 5>But the men, we are pivotal to the success of

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 5>the show, whether we're paid or not, whether we're in

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 5>the Dominican Republic or in Atlanta.

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, like we're here, right, you my type of guy.

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>You guys are a pivotal part of the show, so

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 2>much so that you guys are storylines.

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Right. I want to talk about Quad.

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Colors. You might want to look this way, talk about

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 3>don't look that way.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the case something, but real bro, talk What

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on Quad? I wish it will? What

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>do you mean? What do you mean?

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 5>What are my thoughts? That's a very general question.

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, in terms of as a person, you know,

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:43.959
<v Speaker 2>like you said, she has called you ugina, she has,

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, made comments about the robbery. She has apologized

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to you and Toya about that on my podcast as well.

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>You two seem to have this very divisive relationship.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Who has a divisive relationship you in Quad, me and Qui. Well,

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it appears that you two go back.

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 5>And what my honest opinion about Quad, She's just not

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 5>my favorite person in the world because I wish her well.

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 5>I just I've I've let Quad back into my family's

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 5>circle multiple times, and it's it doesn't seem to go

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 5>well every time we say, okay, well, we'll hug after

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 5>an apology, and so I'm I'm I wish her well.

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 5>But I have nothing else really to say to Quad

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 5>necessarily like she you know, I can be in the

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 5>same room with anybody.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't wish no ill will on her. She's just

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 5>not my favorite person. She's Cecil's favorite person. So we

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 5>can talk to Cecil about that.

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you accept her apology?

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 5>Of course I accept it, but that doesn't mean accept

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 5>an apology doesn't mean that I want to be your friend.

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's and there's.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people in this world that I

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 5>can I can wish them well, I can be in

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 5>the same room with them, But I just I'm not

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 5>confiding in you. I'm not necessarily wanting to be your friend.

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 5>There was some hurtful things over the years, and and

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 5>and Toy has mentioned this multiple times.

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, are you still hurt by it?

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 5>I think I think the robbery stuff and the cheating

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 5>stuff and the drunk driving stuff, we're biggies.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I think.

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 5>I think our show, the platform of reality TV, I

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 5>get the shade like like some shade like even stuff

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 5>I've said, I've said a bunch of stuff, you.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Know, sometimes I just get to I say stuff.

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 5>Curtis checked me on one thing that I said. I said, Hey,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 5>that was I was joking. That was over the line,

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 5>the whole dunkin in the basket thing, That was a joke.

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.760
<v Speaker 5>I apologize. I think he forgives me. But if he doesn't,

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, but.

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he does.

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 5>But I think there's you can't ofss a line in

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 5>reality TV where when you start talking about people doing

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 5>something criminal and you have no proof, you know, like

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 5>that's that's when I think it's really crossing a big

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 5>line where you're saying things.

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>That could result like like the whole cheating thing or

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>accusing toy you of cheating right with someone in the neighborhood.

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Now I know, I know the backstory behind some of

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 5>this because and that's the thing. Another another thing why

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 5>I think the show is so successful.

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>We all kind of knew each other.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 5>We've known each other for a long time, and some

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 5>of the stuff that comes up on our show, it

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 5>isn't I don't think even explained well once you edit

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 5>and shop it.

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 5>Explain some of the stuff because some of the stuff

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 5>go real deep, you know. So if I was the

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 5>type of person guy, if I was this ultra masculine

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 5>guy who I heard that my wife was cheating with,

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 5>who it was said was cheating with, if I was

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 5>the type to just go over to this house, that

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have been a good scenario at all. But I'm

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 5>not that tight. Luckily, you know, I'm saying true.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I had, I had. I had just a conversation with

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>my wife.

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 4>We talked about it, and I believe, and I believe

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 4>my wife.

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you ask Toya whether or not she cheated on

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you with this guy.

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, actually, well who she who? Who it was

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was funny because I know Toy doesn't

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 5>even like this person that much, you know. But we

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 5>did have a convers you know, because once it comes up,

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 5>you still got to have a conversation, you know, And.

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>There was a was there a small part of you believe.

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 5>That there's always I think there's always gonna be a

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 5>gut punch anytime somebody tells you your wife is with

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 5>somebody else, whether it's true or not. Now, once I

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 5>heard it, gut punch, but it's like that's not even possible.

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Then you have the conversation with your wife and be like,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 5>okay that this all makes sense, you know, problem solved.

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 5>But still the person who kind of perpetuates the rumor

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 5>doesn't know that I'm the type to just have a

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 5>conversation with my wife. Because there are some guys out

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 5>there who are not going to have a conversation. They're

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 5>gonna go be very active, like proactive, and try to

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 5>do something to the guy. They're either just gonna leave

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 5>the girl and be like, well you're cheating, and she's

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna be like baby, this this this, I'm not and

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 5>he may not believe, you know what. I was just

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 5>not believing, like she's qua said you were cheating, so

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 5>I gotta believe it her.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not that type.

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 5>But it's still you're saying something that could have caused

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 5>a lot of problems, you know, the whole Well, what

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.919
<v Speaker 5>if we robbed Anela and Kieren. That's that's a big deal,

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, And a lot of people are probably are like, well,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 5>why are you all because because recently we're we've gotten

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 5>back in I think a friendly kind of situation with

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Anela and Kieran. But they've been both very apologetic, you know,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 5>very you know, and to the point where I'm like, okay,

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:02.479
<v Speaker 5>I believe y'all.

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 5>The first time, the first time Toya said, hey, come

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 5>over kire in o'neila's house, I was like, I'm not going.

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Over there for what she's apologized to me, you know.

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, so I don't mean nothing, you know.

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 5>But now I get like I've hung out with them

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 5>a couple of times. I think they're now genuine and

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 5>so it's about how you act after the apology, not

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 5>after the apology. Quads apologize multiple times you know, there's

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 5>been multiple girls on the show. To apologize multiple times

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean anything afterwards.

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So you talked to see some Now Qua's your favorite person.

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, she's not my favorite person, but she's she's sweet.

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like I mean, but you got to remember,

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 6>there's there's a history here. I mean, I mean we've

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 6>known quite ten years. I mean, we've hung out outside

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 6>the show. You know, we went to Vegas for the

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:55.240
<v Speaker 6>Mayweather fight when her and Gregory with it. We're still married.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 6>You know, I was pulling for her and Gregory to

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 6>be able to pull their relationship up together. My experience

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 6>hasn't been the same as Eugene, and you know, and

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 6>Eugene and I talk about this all the time because

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 6>we're good friends and we'll have conversations. He'll raise something

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 6>to me and I'll be like, yeah, that's a good point.

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 6>It's hard for me to see it because like, she

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 6>never comes at me that way, right, And everything that

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 6>I've seen from her has been, at least from from

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 6>our family's.

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Perspective, has been pretty genuine. And that's the part I like, Yeah.

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>And I do think, you know, one of the things

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 2>about the cheating thing, and again This is just me

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>watching the show because I think Toya accused Quad of

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>sleeping with the contractors.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 5>No, she just she just somebody else said that first.

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Somebody on the.

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Show said, yeah, Toya wasn't the initiative.

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Who was?

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 6>I think my wife might have been the first one

0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 6>repeat it.

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 3>She repeats it, but Red the first she did.

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:03.720
<v Speaker 1>She I didn't.

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 6>My wife might have been the first one to repeat it,

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 6>but she repeated it on something that somebody else had

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 6>told her too, which she shouldn't have done.

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 3>But she did.

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 1>The now the bite that you see a lot.

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.959
<v Speaker 5>I think the biggest conversation about it, I think was reunion, Yes,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.439
<v Speaker 5>and that was between Quad and Toya. So it makes

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 5>it like it's a bigger thing and it's kind of

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 5>timestamp for the audience at that moment. But Toy didn't

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 5>say that first. That was not something Toya knew or

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 5>was going seeking like, that's not that wasn't her. That

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 5>wasn't her tea that she came up with.

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 6>It.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 2>So obviously, when you guys started the show, Quad was

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>married to doctor g. We saw the up and downs

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of their relationship, then the divorce, and he was not

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:58.879
<v Speaker 2>on this show anymore. And now that he's back, he's

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 2>with Sweet Tea. What do you guys feel about Doctor

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>G coming back to Maritime Medicine, I.

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Pussu way, just because you know, just in the same

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 5>way that we're saying the men are pivotal to the show,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 5>and the men you know, we've we've stuck in there

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 5>for the show for a long time. Doctor G was

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 5>there from the beginning, you know, So him coming back

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 5>is like it's like a character that kind of left

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 5>for a second and came back, you know, Like I

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 5>look at I look at the show like an audience

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 5>person looking at the show.

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I like Doctor G. Back in the day.

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was hilarious, you know, and so and

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 5>I still think he's larious. I think he's good for

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:42.240
<v Speaker 5>the show. But I like him now coming back because

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 5>he really looks happy now. So just as a personal man,

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 5>the man thing, I like, I like this Doctor G.

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Better you think Sweet teammates Doctor.

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 5>I think I just see him as a happy person.

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Happier, happier, Yes.

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's the beauty of it though too.

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 3>The beauty of it.

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 6>Is we're getting to see Doctor G in a different light, right.

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 5>Because the evolution of somebody, you know. I like seeing that.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he looks he looks different.

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean even in their scenes when they're in the

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 6>home together that we don't know what's going on, but

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 6>when we watch it, like, Okay, he.

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Took the trash out. You know, they showed him taking

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 3>the trash out this year. He never took the trash

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 3>out with cud. So, I mean, you know, just.

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 6>To see that and to see him, you know, because

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 6>here's the other side to it. You know, Gregory and

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 6>I play golf together. We were hanging out even when

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.839
<v Speaker 6>he wasn't on the show. But the thing that I

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 6>think is important is doctor G being a psychiatrist. I

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 6>think it's important to our community to have someone like

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 6>him on the show, to be able to have a

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 6>voice for some of the stuff that we got going

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 6>on in our mental state and what's going on.

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>In the community. And I think doctor G is is

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 3>an amazing voice. I hope he writes.

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 6>I've been pushing him to write a book to talk

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 6>about mental health. I mean, it's needed in our community.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 6>And doctor G is an amazing doctor. I mean, he

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.760
<v Speaker 6>is an amazing doctor. I've seen him on a golf

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 6>trip stop playing get to come off the course to

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 6>go and talk to his patients.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 3>He's not on.

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 6>Call, but someone found out, you know, they had his number.

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 6>They send him a message, he calls him back. The

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 6>guy is amazing And so for me to have someone

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 6>like that on the show, that gives everyone who's watching

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 6>the show a different perspective, you know, because I mean,

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 6>doctors are real people. And that's the thing that I

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 6>love about Married to medicine. Yes, everyone was on the

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 6>show and married. But the other side to this equation

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 6>is these are real doctors. And we're not talking about

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 6>just Jackie and Simone, but Jackie, Simon, Damon, Eugene Gregory,

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Alicia Kima.

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 3>These are real doctors.

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 6>And and this is not a situation where these people

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 6>are playing doctors on TV. Yeah, and and not everyone

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 6>grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. These

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 6>are people who grew up regular like everyone else, but

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 6>they went the extra mile to become a doctor. To me,

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 6>that's an amazing, amazing I think that's what sets our

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 6>show apart.

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And like you said, it's to highlight and showcase

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that love of black excellence when it came.

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 6>To and heavenly too. I just want to make sure

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 6>I didn't say heavy. Did I say that? I don't

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 6>know if I did. I just want to make sure

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 6>I said heavenly too. Okay, it's an amazing It's an

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 6>amazing cast of accomplished black folks. Some folks went to HBCU,

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:55.479
<v Speaker 6>some didn't, but folks that grew up with, some folks

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 6>with single parents, didn't have a whole bunch of money.

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:01.719
<v Speaker 6>I mean some more. Own story is amazing. I tell

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 6>her all the time, you should be writing a book.

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.880
<v Speaker 6>She grew up with, She grew with her and her

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 6>Her mom and dad divorced when Simone was younger, and

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 6>Simone decided when she was twelve she was going to

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 6>be a doctor, and she did everything in her power

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 6>to make that happen.

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 3>To me, that's amazing.

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, now listen.

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 2>That's why again it's the best shown Bravo, because I

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 2>think what it does is shows the audience and even

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the hopfols, the way we were watching a different world

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and we saw black people in college and it made

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 2>us all want to go to an HBCU. You know,

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 2>My hope for this show is that it showcases that

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 2>you too can be a doctor. In whatever you know

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>form that may be, whether it's dentistry, er surgeon, all

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Mariah Hawk obviously created this show. Do you two,

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 2>being the men behind, you know, the women who are

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the face of the show, do you feel like, at

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, it was wrong for Marijah

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to get kicked off this show she created.

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.280
<v Speaker 5>I think Mariah did an amazing job putting this together

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:15.320
<v Speaker 5>in the beginning, like like I've made you know again,

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 5>I was being being somebody who was there from the

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 5>very very beginning, even before we got picked up with Pop.

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, we were in the first this is a

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 5>real with the other company. I think she did a

0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 5>wonderful job. I think, if you want my honest opinion,

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 5>some of the background stuff between her and production company,

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 5>I think that got muddy. It wasn't her on Sene Persona.

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't her relationship with the girls either. In my opinion,

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I think Maria's not on our show because of some

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 5>internal stuff with the people who did the production company

0:57:56.400 --> 0:58:01.959
<v Speaker 5>with that produces our show, because it's not I don't

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 5>like the narrative that I see on Twitter, where uh,

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 5>the girls got rid of marian and the girls got

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 5>rid of Quad, none of none of these ladies can

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 5>get rid of anybody there there there are individuals they can't.

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Then now they can.

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 5>They can ask you to leave a party, they can

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 5>ask you to leave Napa from their trip. But they

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 5>can't kick you off a show. Only you can kick

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 5>you off a show, and only you and your relationship

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 5>with the people who sign your check can't get rid

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 5>of you.

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And so and just like you know shows that you.

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 5>Put on, you know, uh, there's there's there's no two

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 5>people on that you pay. They can get rid of

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 5>another person that you pay, You can get rid of them,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 5>but they can't. And so I just I think the

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 5>narrative that the ladies bound together.

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>To exile you know her, like like she.

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 5>Was Napoleon and now she's on the island. I don't

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 5>it didn't work that way. It makes sense for or

0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 5>somebody who watches the show. I think because people that

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 5>watched the show don't think that there's a production company.

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 5>They think that's real. They think everything they see is like, well,

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.240
<v Speaker 5>they asked Quad to leave. That's why Quad ain't back.

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like, well kuhy my name be backcause

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Quaid didn't show up.

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>On time.

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, QUI my name be back, because when Cod

0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:21.479
<v Speaker 5>shows up, she said, I'm only here for my check,

0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 5>not for y'all.

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 5>are going on that people don't see. So but but

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 5>to go full circle, I think, I think Mariah put

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 5>together an amazing ensemble.

0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea to have people who really, really

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>actually knew.

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Each other to do this this this this thing was

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:50.920
<v Speaker 5>amazing and that's why we've stayed on TV for ten

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 5>years because we organically worked. And honestly, I think that's

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 5>why Houston didn't work. That's why La didn't work, because

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 5>you were trying to and picked these weird, random people

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 5>that didn't know each other and didn't bring them together.

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 5>We already knew each other, and so that's why when

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 5>we get mad, we get real, real mad, you know.

1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:11.400
<v Speaker 1>But when we get happy, we get real happy.

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.880
<v Speaker 5>And that's why the longevity has been the way it's

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 5>been because it's very organic. So I do give Mariah

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 5>all the credit for that.

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Mariah's amazing.

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 6>I mean we're not sitting here talking to you without Mariah.

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<v Speaker 6>And not only that, I mean to look at five

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<v Speaker 6>of the women, the main cast women were all brought

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<v Speaker 6>in by her. These aren't people that were auditioned by

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<v Speaker 6>the production company. These are her people. And to Eugene's point,

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Technically Toya introduced Heavenly to Mariah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well yeah, but it's all still it all still

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<v Speaker 6>comes to it still all comes through Mariah. And I

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<v Speaker 6>truly believe if Mariah was involved with Houston in LA,

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<v Speaker 6>it might have been different, because I think her eye

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<v Speaker 6>for reality.

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<v Speaker 3>TV is different. She's amazing, She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>But to Eugenie's point, there were some things going on

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<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes that we had a chance to witness

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<v Speaker 6>that wasn't pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>She said on my podcast that there were some intense

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<v Speaker 2>conversations and moments, you know, she did say that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said this show was married to Mariah because I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like they were trying to erase history, that they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to ice me out. And I have to

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<v Speaker 2>constantly fight as a black woman to be heard and

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<v Speaker 2>to be seen and to be respected. Are those things

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys have seen her fight to do and

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<v Speaker 2>to be I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>We saw those, but we also saw other stuff too,

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<v Speaker 6>Like what cecil.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, well, can I I'm gonna try to say

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<v Speaker 5>this as diplomatically as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people just like to fight. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of fight in them.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't mean that there's somebody on the other side

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<v Speaker 5>that's even wanting to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Well let me let me let me hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 6>let me let me let me say this part about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So the other side to this, I think is we

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<v Speaker 6>were not involved when Mariah signed her deal with the

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<v Speaker 6>production company, So we don't know what they agreed to

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<v Speaker 6>from a executive producer standpoint, a money standpoint, rolling out

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<v Speaker 6>on other shows.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know what happened with that. But what I can.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell you is this based on how she reacted to

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<v Speaker 6>the production company. Whatever deal she got wasn't one that

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<v Speaker 6>she was pleased with. And so because she wasn't pleased

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<v Speaker 6>with her deal, when the production folks were around, she

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<v Speaker 6>would get in the ass, I mean, and we we

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<v Speaker 6>would actually be filming a scene, that's what, and she

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<v Speaker 6>might say something in the camera directly to the production

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<v Speaker 6>company and we're filming. She know that sit getting cut out,

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<v Speaker 6>but she might say something directly to the production company like.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she was.

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<v Speaker 6>Upset and again I don't know what her deal was.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if they were nigged. She might have

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<v Speaker 6>been well within her right to be upset. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>but she was. She was hot and it came off.

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<v Speaker 6>And so if I you know, I'm a business person.

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<v Speaker 6>You know I worked at Cocola for twenty years, Corporate

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<v Speaker 6>America for twenty five years. If I'm running a business

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<v Speaker 6>and someone is working for me, is what I call

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<v Speaker 6>being insubordinate, Probably gonna let them go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I think technically.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it in a very concise way for all

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<v Speaker 2>of us to get a clear picture of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. If you guys saw her on

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in a beautiful place and she built the studio

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<v Speaker 2>in MacDonough. And do you guys still keep in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with Aiden or no?

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<v Speaker 3>He cut us loose? I mean, and and I love Aiden.

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<v Speaker 3>Aiden was a good guy. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Mariah, Mariah's family to us. I know she talked about

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<v Speaker 6>it on your podcast. I mean her, her her aunt

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<v Speaker 6>was our nanny, Simone delivered right right her her her son,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I mean it was it was tough. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna lie to you when Mariah wasn't on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>It was hurtful. It was hurtful for me, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was hurtful for someone.

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<v Speaker 5>And and and I watched, I watched the podcast she

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<v Speaker 5>did with Mariah and and I think she even alluded

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<v Speaker 5>to it a little bit her last season. Toy and

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<v Speaker 5>I were still in her corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, she loves Toya.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we were still And to this day, I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I think she was wrong on a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 5>I will always say that. And we were on her

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<v Speaker 5>on her side that last season. But again it goes

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<v Speaker 5>to what Cecil was saying, some of the stuff outside

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<v Speaker 5>of the ladies, outside of all the couples. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's why she's not here. I just, I just I

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<v Speaker 5>just don't like the narrative that we got rid of anybody,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's not possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do that. I want to talk about you

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<v Speaker 1>and Toya.

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<v Speaker 2>Toya was on my podcast, and I love your wife,

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<v Speaker 2>and she and I bo from Detroit, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>this special bond. And I'm very honest with Toya. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said to Toya, I was not happy when she

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<v Speaker 2>would make comments about.

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<v Speaker 1>You, which which woman we got all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell listen side listen, you know how much I adore you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going through a family situation recently, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to Toya. I reached out to her to get

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<v Speaker 2>through you and you have been there for me for

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<v Speaker 2>some very crucial months in my life. And I went

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<v Speaker 2>the world to know that, from doctor Jackie to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I will always be grateful for the love that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have shown me behind the scenes. And because of you,

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<v Speaker 2>my situation has gotten better with the family member. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted the world to know that I have a

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<v Speaker 2>deep affection for you because you are You are a

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<v Speaker 2>great man, and you are a great doctor. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I when I spoke to Toya my podcast last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is before my situation was happening with my

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<v Speaker 2>family member, I said, I don't like the way you

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like how she would make references to you

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<v Speaker 1>having a small penis.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't though the ladies took okay, okay, no, nor

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead one. She cleared it up on a recent

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<v Speaker 5>podcast Okay she's We talked even the the day that

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<v Speaker 5>this all came out. What she said and what the

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<v Speaker 5>conversation was about was when you get married, it is

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<v Speaker 5>what it is Okay. Now I know my wife and

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<v Speaker 5>I know me. I bring up weird little references. I've

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<v Speaker 5>done it today multiple times. We just say little stuff

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<v Speaker 5>to get our point across. There's a little on the

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<v Speaker 5>edge of where.

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<v Speaker 1>We probably should now what she what?

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<v Speaker 5>She was giving examples to the ladies, like, you get married,

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<v Speaker 5>this ain't gonna get no different.

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<v Speaker 1>If you be happy with what you got, because.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not gonna get no no different, hopefully if his

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<v Speaker 5>penis ain't gonna getting bigger. And I would say to

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<v Speaker 5>say that her but ain't gonna get no bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched no no, No, I watched the episode Toya

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<v Speaker 2>sand Burbato. She said, she said, I thought when I

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<v Speaker 2>got married, I thought that his penis would get bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what she said. I saw it on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>What did she got? What it back?

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<v Speaker 5>She said, he said his penis not mine. She said

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<v Speaker 5>his the it's not going to get any bigger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>she said his penis isn't his penis. No, she said,

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<v Speaker 5>she said his penis isn't going to get any bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>So be happy with whatever you got. Now here's the

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<v Speaker 5>flip side.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Okay, now do you all think that.

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<v Speaker 5>This person who claims on every green screen that I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever done with her for the last ten years is

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<v Speaker 5>the sexual demon.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think she would be with.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody who couldn't satisfy her? I don't think so. Toya's

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<v Speaker 5>a very good looking woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She is top three, the top one, of course.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so so so toy is. I don't say if

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't do what I needed to do and was

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<v Speaker 5>in adequate enough, yes, I don't think she'd still be.

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<v Speaker 1>So you weren't offended by that comment when you first

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<v Speaker 1>heard it, I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I don't like the penis conversation because because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>I'm truth be told, I'm an extra to introvert. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually pretty. If you leave me alone, I could just

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<v Speaker 5>sit and not talk to nobody. Yes, I can perform,

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<v Speaker 5>but this ain't to me. By myself, is a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>quiet person. So when I'm hearing that my penis is

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<v Speaker 5>being talked about on on the reunion show, I'm not happy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, do I like business being thrown at me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not happy? But do I know who I married? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a conversation. We have a toy, but we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the conversations when it comes to she's not

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<v Speaker 2>being satisfied in the sex department.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, no, that's now, that's that's separate, and that that

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<v Speaker 5>actually was a journey that I and I've been very

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<v Speaker 5>vocal about that, Like, there was a point where I

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<v Speaker 5>think I was getting a little bit depressed, and I

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<v Speaker 5>started when the pandemic was going on, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Toy talked about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was all the pandemic, but even maybe

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<v Speaker 5>a couple years before the pandemic hit, I was starting

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<v Speaker 5>to get a little lazy at home, kind of to myself,

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<v Speaker 5>not really my zest for life was kind of like down.

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<v Speaker 5>And didn't know what it was until I went to

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<v Speaker 5>the doctor. I was like, please check my testosterone level.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I'm, you know, mid forties. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>just check it, you know, And I think it's an

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<v Speaker 5>important thing, I think just for men's health, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for us to talk about, like once a man gets

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<v Speaker 5>to the point where they're like thirty five, sometimes your

1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:31.800
<v Speaker 5>testosterone level starts to drop naturally and.

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<v Speaker 1>You need replacement. Just like if you're a diabetic, if.

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<v Speaker 5>You're insulin levels are down, you need to take some

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, like it's a hormone and if

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<v Speaker 5>it's down, you need to replace. My testosteronal level was

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<v Speaker 5>like at the level of like a sixty five year

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<v Speaker 5>old man. And so getting replaced like now I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel good again, my you know, like I can

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<v Speaker 5>do stuff in the bedroom now. I'm losing weight now,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And so those are the things that like,

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<v Speaker 5>even just doing it for myself. That's why I opened

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<v Speaker 5>up like my clinic now, you know, Recharged Wellness, where

1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:03.679
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing hormone replacement for people, doing weight loss for people,

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<v Speaker 5>because I've lost fifty five pounds, like I feel amazing,

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<v Speaker 5>But I get you know, like you know, marriages are

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<v Speaker 5>up and down for all different kinds of reasons, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's you know, the stuff that Cecil talked about earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's you know, somebody's got a hormone issue. There's

1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:22.080
<v Speaker 5>gonna be these, you know, but you just got to

1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:23.920
<v Speaker 5>figure out what the problem is and then fix it.

1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Y'all fixed it. I was like, Okay, obviously there's something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with me. Let me go fix that, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't I don't take offense that Toya was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I'm alone in this house, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And because that's her truth, and I had to man

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<v Speaker 5>up and be like, Okay, yeah, you're right, you know,

1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:41.840
<v Speaker 5>because I'm not as attentive, and now that I've gotten

1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:45.280
<v Speaker 5>my stuff together, I'm a lot more attentive and I

1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:50.160
<v Speaker 5>think a lot more engaged with all facets of the relationships.

1:11:50.160 --> 1:11:52.879
<v Speaker 5>So I don't mind her saying that kind of stuff, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You've revealed recent in a recent episode that the word

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<v Speaker 2>divorce they come up.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did that work come up during your marriage? Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>We got there's a lot of ups and downs, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>like I think, for as much as we we, Toy

1:12:09.680 --> 1:12:13.080
<v Speaker 5>and I are both fire science, we're both mouthy. We

1:12:13.120 --> 1:12:17.439
<v Speaker 5>both think we're right all the time, and sometimes that clashes,

1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:19.320
<v Speaker 5>you know. And then when you have like this a

1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:22.080
<v Speaker 5>lot of external stuff, like the cheating stuff. Even though

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, yeah, you think the stuff bounces off you,

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<v Speaker 5>but to a certain point, you know, it can affect

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<v Speaker 5>you to the point where you're like, yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 5>that's not true, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we good? You know.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when you're you're not spending as much time

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<v Speaker 5>you got the rigmarole with the kids, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>you really got to re engage. And that's why this year,

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<v Speaker 5>with like the dates that we've been doing, just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of re engaging as a couple, I think was important.

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<v Speaker 5>And honestly, I see on some own, just like we

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<v Speaker 5>tried to help them, they they had an intervention with us.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh oh yeah, this wasn't shown, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we got invited. We got invited to dinner when this

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<v Speaker 5>was before this was in between seasons and nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, between nine and ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, well if we had a camera, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and Simone took it upon.

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<v Speaker 5>You and saying some other mutual friends and some other

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<v Speaker 5>friends got got.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and Toya.

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<v Speaker 3>We got invited.

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<v Speaker 5>We got invited to dinner, dinner, and it was nice dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they took us in the basement and sat

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<v Speaker 5>us down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like we went in, look you to.

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<v Speaker 5>We went in because I because I was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, once you get to you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>you have a day of being married where you're arguing,

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<v Speaker 5>no big deal. But when you get to the point

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<v Speaker 5>where you're arguing for a couple of weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously Toya probably was talking to someone and I'm calling

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<v Speaker 5>see like, no, you don't done this done that talking

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<v Speaker 5>to me any kind of way, I bet that it's

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna happen, you know, Like then you get to

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<v Speaker 5>the point where like, okaylet's set y'all down before this

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<v Speaker 5>gets any worse.

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<v Speaker 6>So we love them together, right, I mean, they they

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<v Speaker 6>get each other. They are in my opinion, they they

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<v Speaker 6>feed off of each other. Where I think some of

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<v Speaker 6>what makes Toya great is some of the challenges that

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<v Speaker 6>Eugene will push her to. Some of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>Eugene I think gets out of his probably his safe zone,

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<v Speaker 6>is because Toya pushes him.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>And to see them between nine and ten going off

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<v Speaker 6>in different directions, I was like, wait a minute, we

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<v Speaker 6>can't have this, and so it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a spirited conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I think I think the push pushing is is

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<v Speaker 5>the right is the right word? You know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>when when you when you think somebody is pushing you

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<v Speaker 5>because you feel like they have good intentions, then you're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>With the push.

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<v Speaker 5>But when your focus is you know, the kids, work this,

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<v Speaker 5>that and the other, then when you get pushed and

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<v Speaker 5>you're not paying attention to why you got pushed, you

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<v Speaker 5>feel like it's an attack and I think for a

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<v Speaker 5>second we felt like we were being attacked by each

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<v Speaker 5>other as opposed to being pushed because the other person

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<v Speaker 5>loved us and was trying to make us better. So

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<v Speaker 5>we were fussing about stuff that was like, well, you're

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<v Speaker 5>not helping me, Well you're not helping me. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we actually just if we just band together, we realized

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<v Speaker 5>that we have the same goals. You're team, You're on

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<v Speaker 5>the same team. We just need to refocus. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>why I was like, after a certain point in marriage,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you really have to re engage, especially once

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<v Speaker 5>you once your kids get to be like that preteen

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<v Speaker 5>age when they don't need you as much. You got

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<v Speaker 5>to re engage back into almost like a dating, courting

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<v Speaker 5>kind of thing because your focus so much was about

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<v Speaker 5>keeping these kids okay. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they wake up in the morning, go to school,

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<v Speaker 5>they come home, they make their own food. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>really need nothing except for some guidance on big issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we're sitting in the house like looking at each other, like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 5>for the last five years I have new interests and

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<v Speaker 5>she's got new interests and we're looking at each other

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<v Speaker 5>like who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And so then when when the person tries to say,

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<v Speaker 5>well you need to do X Y and Z was like,

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<v Speaker 5>well you don't know me, you know who you to

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<v Speaker 5>tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And the same thing with her, like I'm like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to hear about tennis, you know, She's like,

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<v Speaker 5>well I love tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about it. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like like we were just talking two different languages,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys saw that and obviously, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you were confiding him and she would confide in some

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<v Speaker 2>own So you guys have this intervention with other couples

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<v Speaker 2>to really save this marriage.

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<v Speaker 6>The beauty of the del Carlos was this. When we

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<v Speaker 6>were talking to Eugene, Toya was the one that was

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<v Speaker 6>like protecting him. She was like no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't get it. When we were talking to Toya

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<v Speaker 6>and Santoya, you can't do this, Eugene was the one

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<v Speaker 6>Protectoya who runs. Once I saw that, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>they good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But it's one of those like that's the beauty

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<v Speaker 5>of having couples that knew that they've already been on

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<v Speaker 5>that journey.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what we what.

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<v Speaker 5>Was about to happen, So it was like, let's talk

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<v Speaker 5>to y'all before it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. No, that's again. But that's why we love

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the season poper Union when they rallied with

1:17:21.960 --> 1:17:25.120
<v Speaker 2>you and Doctor Simone, and we love that we're able

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that too, because look, I know you read

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<v Speaker 2>things about your wife. People really are afraid that Toya

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<v Speaker 2>is going to take you to the poorhouse?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any fear? And no, I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:44.439
<v Speaker 2>They feel like this poor even last night when I

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<v Speaker 2>was on Live with Doctor Heavenly. People are obsessed with

1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:51.320
<v Speaker 2>this dynamic because.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel sorry for you. They think Toya is spending

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<v Speaker 1>all your money.

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<v Speaker 5>Toya makes more money than I do. Right now, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>go right for for over a year time, for the

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<v Speaker 5>last several year, buch hair, just toyo.

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<v Speaker 7>Love, She'll go look up, get in trouble, brobably, let

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<v Speaker 7>the run ain't no love.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the loves more money than you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>So how am I? How am I going broke? When

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<v Speaker 5>she's like for the last several years she's made more

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<v Speaker 5>money than I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, Doctor Eugene Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay, now I hold my own. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just the show pays money. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>show pays Bree money, right, you know I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>By I think the perception has been I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you and again I'm till you read this. They said

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<v Speaker 2>Toya is living her best, soft life, great life.

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<v Speaker 1>Toya wakes up.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, Toya has the kids wake her up to say, Mama,

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<v Speaker 2>take me to school, because Toya is in bed until

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<v Speaker 2>twelve forty five until it's time to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock tennis match. And that this poor man is

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<v Speaker 2>working around the clock to live up to Toya's standard.

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<v Speaker 5>To clear again, let me clear up with several things. One,

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<v Speaker 5>Toya makes a good amount of money. All the stuff

1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:14.679
<v Speaker 5>Toy is buying right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Toy paid for. Toy also pays for the boys tuition.

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<v Speaker 5>Toy pays for all of our vacations.

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<v Speaker 1>Toy pays for a lot of stuff in our house.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you spilling it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, got money right, Okay, So she's not broke and

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<v Speaker 5>she's not gonna take me to the poorhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, close your.

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<v Speaker 5>Mouth, Carlos, It's okay, I implored.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you using Toya bar O? Yes, I'm a capt man.

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<v Speaker 3>That beyond that, the next.

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<v Speaker 5>Part is whether we did this show or not, whether

1:19:47.200 --> 1:19:51.160
<v Speaker 5>Toya had a million dollars a year or not, whether

1:19:51.200 --> 1:19:54.719
<v Speaker 5>she was a billionaire or not. I like working. That's

1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:57.559
<v Speaker 5>what I do, so it doesn't matter how much my

1:19:57.680 --> 1:20:00.439
<v Speaker 5>woman makes. This is how much I want to work anyway.

1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:01.720
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm a workaholic.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was texting patients before I got here. I worked

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<v Speaker 1>in night.

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<v Speaker 5>Shifts in the er, still like I'm doing. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>hospice director. Now I do a lot, you know, but

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<v Speaker 5>I like doing it. That's what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, and you're not doing it because again the perception

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<v Speaker 2>when not doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>To keep a lifestyle. I'm doing it because that's what

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<v Speaker 5>I like to do. I liked being in the hospital working.

1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I like seeing patients. I was, you know, liked some

1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:31.280
<v Speaker 5>old story. I grew up in not that great of

1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:35.639
<v Speaker 5>a neighborhood in south Southeast DC. My family moved to Maryland.

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.960
<v Speaker 5>My all I've ever said, well, I want to be astronaut.

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<v Speaker 5>First I saw the challenge that blow up and I

1:20:41.280 --> 1:20:43.559
<v Speaker 5>was like, no, forget that, you know. And after that,

1:20:43.720 --> 1:20:45.280
<v Speaker 5>I was going to be a doctor and I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to do this my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the only thing I've ever said. Nobody's ever heard

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<v Speaker 5>me say I wanted to do anything else, So why

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't I do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm really glad we had this because again,

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<v Speaker 2>so when you see these, I mean, listen, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to get mad.

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<v Speaker 5>On Twitter and be like, yeah, be like they tell

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<v Speaker 5>you know, get a job.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're watching her job, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't fight the whole Twitter, you know. I was like,

1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:14.280
<v Speaker 5>so I stopped, you know, do that. So but I mean,

1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:18.320
<v Speaker 5>I like working just what I do. And Damon, I

1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:20.000
<v Speaker 5>used to work with Damon in the er until you

1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.560
<v Speaker 5>Damon will say to this day I was the happiest

1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:26.320
<v Speaker 5>person he ever saw working in the YR because Damon

1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:27.840
<v Speaker 5>hated it. And I would show up and I'm like, man,

1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:31.360
<v Speaker 5>why are you so sad? Like this is amazing, Like

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<v Speaker 5>don't you like doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is great? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor heavily said that you guys are renting your home

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<v Speaker 2>and because she's a financial expert that has doctor university.

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<v Speaker 2>She feels that you two are wasting your money. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all spend between ten and fifteen thousand dollars a month

1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:55.639
<v Speaker 2>to rent a house when that money should be used

1:21:55.640 --> 1:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in equity for a home.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's what I payon. She don't pay none of

1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 5>my bills. I really don't care what Heavinly has to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but the same thing that I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>The guy on Netflix, you Know, How to Live Your

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<v Speaker 6>Rich Life, he has a show out there and he

1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:16.400
<v Speaker 6>talks about Renting has a lot of different values to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Number one, you don't have to worry about the maintenance

1:22:19.760 --> 1:22:20.320
<v Speaker 6>and upkeep.

1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:24.800
<v Speaker 3>If something goes wrong, you call your landlord. Renting gives you.

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<v Speaker 6>The ability to be able to move if you need to.

1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:31.719
<v Speaker 6>It also gives you the flexibility as long as you're saving.

1:22:32.200 --> 1:22:37.400
<v Speaker 6>It gives you the flexibility to not necessarily time to market,

1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:41.240
<v Speaker 6>but to buy when you're ready to buy. And so,

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<v Speaker 6>I know in our community it's always about don't rent,

1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:48.680
<v Speaker 6>don't rent, But the truth is, I mean, you know,

1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:52.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm a realtor now, and so in this market.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have to rent well and I'm

1:22:55.439 --> 1:22:56.519
<v Speaker 3>not saying that. I'm not saying that.

1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:59.479
<v Speaker 6>I know that's not your situation, but there are people

1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.920
<v Speaker 6>out here today's time they have to rent well.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not a negative.

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<v Speaker 5>To clear up for the audience, I suppose during the

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<v Speaker 5>ten seasons, I have owned two houses that you've seen

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<v Speaker 5>me in, and I've been I've rented three houses, different scenarios.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I was in all of them.

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<v Speaker 5>When I moved to Atlanta, I was in the house

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<v Speaker 5>in Southwest Atlanta. We got to the point where the

1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:25.680
<v Speaker 5>neighborhood wasn't very safe. We were the only house on

1:23:25.760 --> 1:23:29.120
<v Speaker 5>that street that did not get broken into. They had

1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:31.000
<v Speaker 5>a car broken into, but the actual house did not

1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:33.439
<v Speaker 5>get broken into it and Toya was like, I got

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<v Speaker 5>these two kids, I'm moving whether you come or not.

1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:38.920
<v Speaker 5>And that was like Oh. I was like, oh, we

1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:42.120
<v Speaker 5>got to move. We moved somewhere that was I think

1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.160
<v Speaker 5>a little above where we probably should have been. But

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<v Speaker 5>the problem is was it affordable?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>But the bad part was we never really talked about

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<v Speaker 5>this on the show. I was an assistant director at

1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:57.719
<v Speaker 5>my emergency department at that time. When we moved into

1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:01.519
<v Speaker 5>that big, big house with the hill, I lost that year,

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<v Speaker 5>about one hundred and fifty thousand in revenue that year.

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<v Speaker 5>Because that my company got rid of the assistant directorship.

1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:09.000
<v Speaker 5>So I lost a bunch of money. So I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>the house like, oh shit, what am I going to do?

1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:13.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, That's when I had my tax problems, you know,

1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:16.200
<v Speaker 5>like all this stuff's got a reason for it.

1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:17.360
<v Speaker 1>We moved into a house.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, if I had that one hundred

1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:21.960
<v Speaker 5>and fifty thousand, I'm Gucci, you know. But I moved

1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:24.000
<v Speaker 5>into it. I'm already signed the paper, We're already in it.

1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1:24:24.320 --> 1:24:27.720
<v Speaker 5>We got an issue and so but we were very

1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:30.840
<v Speaker 5>open and honest, like, hey, let's talk about budget, let's

1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:33.080
<v Speaker 5>talk about this, let's talk about that, let's talk about

1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:35.040
<v Speaker 5>how we need to move. I think we were a

1:24:35.040 --> 1:24:37.080
<v Speaker 5>good example of what you do when you're in a

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<v Speaker 5>financial issue for a lot of people. Moved to a

1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:42.760
<v Speaker 5>smaller place, moved to a smaller place. We got our

1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:45.000
<v Speaker 5>money together. We bought a house. Now the house we

1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:48.720
<v Speaker 5>bought common piece of trash, if I must say so.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked great on the surface. Everybody, everybody story closet,

1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:56.600
<v Speaker 5>the two story closet was a wonderful house. There was

1:24:56.640 --> 1:24:59.280
<v Speaker 5>a lot of issues that did not we didn't want

1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:02.599
<v Speaker 5>to put out on a show they didn't have time

1:25:02.640 --> 1:25:05.679
<v Speaker 5>to put you know, like you've heard some stuff house

1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:09.599
<v Speaker 5>And the market was such that we sold it for

1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:12.400
<v Speaker 5>about eight hundred thousand more than we paid for so

1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:14.920
<v Speaker 5>we made a profit. I made a profit, all right.

1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:16.960
<v Speaker 5>So now I'm renting until I find what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's okay.

1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:21.439
<v Speaker 5>And unless it Heavenly wants to pay some of my bills,

1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:23.479
<v Speaker 5>she can just keep her opinion.

1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care. Her opinion is just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I appreciate you guys coming through because again you don't,

1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately get an opportunity to express yourselves.

1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And YouTube, out of all the guys on the.

1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Show, make the biggest impact when it comes to this show.

1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:50.639
<v Speaker 2>So to have the opportunity to talk to YouTube has

1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>been great. This has been a great season. It's been

1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:57.639
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal seasoned it is on the show.

1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys think she should stay on the show.

1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll go back to the housewive.

1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:04.160
<v Speaker 5>Now here's one little nugget, the only nugget I'll give

1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.840
<v Speaker 5>for the reunion. And actually I don't think I don't

1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:08.680
<v Speaker 5>know if a camera was up when I said this

1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:12.120
<v Speaker 5>the pha I like Fadri for the show. But I

1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:14.240
<v Speaker 5>did tell Phaedri I gave her some grace this year

1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:16.960
<v Speaker 5>because because I gave Quad a.

1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Lot of flat for being.

1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:23.400
<v Speaker 5>On the show, because I again going back to what

1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:26.559
<v Speaker 5>we what I loved about the show earlier was that

1:26:26.640 --> 1:26:30.479
<v Speaker 5>we were all married ensemble. I loved that for us,

1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:33.880
<v Speaker 5>and I wanted to keep that Moniker, and so I

1:26:33.920 --> 1:26:37.439
<v Speaker 5>did give Quad some flat back in the day, I

1:26:37.479 --> 1:26:40.400
<v Speaker 5>gave faed With some grace that I never brought it

1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:45.240
<v Speaker 5>up this year. I said for next year, we gotta

1:26:45.280 --> 1:26:46.920
<v Speaker 5>find you a man, and she said, okay.

1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:50.599
<v Speaker 5>This was after the reunion was done. We were walking out.

1:26:50.840 --> 1:26:52.200
<v Speaker 5>I was like, we gotta find you a man. If

1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.840
<v Speaker 5>you're staying, do you think she should say I like

1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:55.479
<v Speaker 5>her for the show.

1:26:55.760 --> 1:27:02.439
<v Speaker 6>Okay, she's super funny. She's super funny. She is She's

1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:03.320
<v Speaker 6>made for TV.

1:27:03.720 --> 1:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, But.

1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:12.080
<v Speaker 6>I kept waiting for the boyfriend. I kept waiting for

1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:16.320
<v Speaker 6>the boyfriend. That's kind of how our show works. So

1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:20.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, okay, when is the boyfriend coming around? When

1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:22.240
<v Speaker 6>he didn't come around the first couple of weeks, okay,

1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.800
<v Speaker 6>I get it. But then when I realized he wasn't

1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:31.479
<v Speaker 6>coming around. It definitely changes the dynamic of our show.

1:27:32.479 --> 1:27:36.160
<v Speaker 6>And Eugenia and I talk about this all the time.

1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:40.800
<v Speaker 6>Is that from my perspective as a guy, you know,

1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:42.720
<v Speaker 6>and the guys that I talked to, that I meet

1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:46.600
<v Speaker 6>in the gym, I meet at Costco, the guys that

1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:51.120
<v Speaker 6>watched the show with their wives and their girlfriends, they

1:27:51.240 --> 1:27:54.080
<v Speaker 6>watch it because they love to see the dynamic of

1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:58.040
<v Speaker 6>the couples. They love to see how you are dealing

1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:03.479
<v Speaker 6>with your situation. And I think that this year with

1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:08.799
<v Speaker 6>Phaedra and then also Quad, and you know in Quad

1:28:09.320 --> 1:28:11.960
<v Speaker 6>is real private when it comes to her relationship, So

1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:14.680
<v Speaker 6>she never brings a guy around on the show, so

1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:16.920
<v Speaker 6>we don't get to meet anybody that she's dating.

1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:22.440
<v Speaker 3>She's dating, she is dating, She's all. I mean, it's Quad,

1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:23.920
<v Speaker 3>So you know she's dating.

1:28:24.680 --> 1:28:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean.

1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>It's Quad.

1:28:28.760 --> 1:28:31.599
<v Speaker 6>You know she's dating, right, I mean she is such

1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:36.639
<v Speaker 6>a charismatic type that's here in Atlanta. Everybody loves her,

1:28:36.920 --> 1:28:40.759
<v Speaker 6>So I know she's dating. Fadra's dating too, I'm sure,

1:28:41.360 --> 1:28:44.400
<v Speaker 6>But the thing is they're not allowing that to happen

1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:47.599
<v Speaker 6>on our show. And for me, as much as I

1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:51.599
<v Speaker 6>love Faedra, I feel like, if she's gonna come back,

1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:56.640
<v Speaker 6>we need to see who she's dating. We need to

1:28:56.640 --> 1:28:58.320
<v Speaker 6>bring him into the group. We got to bring him

1:28:58.320 --> 1:29:00.680
<v Speaker 6>the Cigar City Club. He got a hand out with us.

1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.280
<v Speaker 6>We got to see what he's talking about. Same thing

1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:06.160
<v Speaker 6>with Kauahid and Quad will tell you I've been telling

1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:10.280
<v Speaker 6>her from the beginning, like, hey, I know you don't

1:29:10.280 --> 1:29:13.240
<v Speaker 6>want to show your guy, but we got to meet him.

1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:16.240
<v Speaker 6>I mean, your big brother has to meet you guys,

1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:18.320
<v Speaker 6>and they you gotta let him know on.

1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.479
<v Speaker 3>The front end. They gotta come on the show and

1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>we got to talk.

1:29:22.080 --> 1:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And what does she say to that, She'd be.

1:29:23.960 --> 1:29:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Like, they're not coming, She's not doing it.

1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate you two coming because again, this has

1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>been a great conversation and I'm happy to report, well,

1:29:36.920 --> 1:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you guys can report back to your wives that this

1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>was a great conversation, beautiful conversation, but.

1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Also much need a conversation.

1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>And also no, seriously, I am so happy you cleared

1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>the air about this perception when it comes to Toya, because.

1:29:53.880 --> 1:29:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I literally and I know her.

1:29:56.160 --> 1:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that I spend money too.

1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just no, no, no, no.

1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>But I love the fact that we get to stop

1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>perpetuating this stereotype that Toya is a kept woman who

1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:12.639
<v Speaker 2>spend your money and people are afraid like this poor

1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>man is about to go to the poorhouse to buy

1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>her chanel back. But I also love the fact that

1:30:17.680 --> 1:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you are able to really speak so candidly about the

1:30:21.720 --> 1:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>struggles you face with doctor Simone and the Tammy situation

1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>and how that did affect you. Because again, a lot

1:30:29.280 --> 1:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of men watch your show. I have a show loving

1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>marriage franchise.

1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm like you the gym.

1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't go to Costcos, but I do go to Target,

1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and every once in a while if a man is

1:30:38.680 --> 1:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>in Target, because they usually aren't, you know, they do

1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:43.559
<v Speaker 2>stop me and say, like, yo, I watch your stuff

1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:45.679
<v Speaker 2>with my wife because my wife put me on this show.

1:30:45.720 --> 1:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And I like the men's perspective, and I appreciate y'all perspective,

1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:50.759
<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate y'all.

1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:53.439
<v Speaker 1>But coming on reality for the King and we got

1:30:53.439 --> 1:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to do this again.

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate you, We really appreciate you allowing this to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Marthon Medicine airs every Sunday at eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>No actually.

1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Today time slot.

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<v Speaker 2>Marthon Medicine comes on every Sunday at nine o'clock a

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