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Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is going on tour. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 2: and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King, this is a very special moment.

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Speaker 2: As you all know, my favorite show in Bravo is

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Speaker 2: Martion Madison.

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Speaker 1: Now, yes, we do messy Mondays with Doctor Hemny.

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Speaker 2: I go to quad hows that you know, we have.

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Speaker 1: A good olkey key.

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Speaker 2: But today I'm here with the two men, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: who are the force multipliers of the show. I am

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Speaker 2: talking about doctor Eugene.

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Speaker 1: And see some appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Give me something, You give me something.

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Speaker 4: I know I ain't from Detroit, but I lived there

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Speaker 4: about three years.

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Speaker 1: You did you know?

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Speaker 3: You didn't know that that's where they met.

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Speaker 1: You just have a court Toya.

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Speaker 5: That I didn't go there to court Toya, but I was.

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Speaker 5: That's where we met.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 5: I was a chief resident of Detroit receiving.

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Speaker 1: How did you meet Toya in the first place? So

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Speaker 1: funny story.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, basically, when I was on my ICU rotation,

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Speaker 5: I met a nurse. It was kind of flirty. I

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Speaker 5: knew she had a boyfriend. But I thought she was cute,

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Speaker 5: but I was not really talking to were talking to her,

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Speaker 5: but she invited me to go out to this event.

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Speaker 5: At the event, they were doing speed dating on the

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Speaker 5: other side of the restaurant. So we're at the bar,

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Speaker 5: we're sitting there. It's the nurse.

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Speaker 1: I showed up with Toya. The nurse had a boyfriend. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we were cool.

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Speaker 3: You I was want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But we did. We did. We did a fold speed

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Speaker 1: dating at our table.

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Speaker 5: When I speed dated with the other girl that was there,

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Speaker 5: I was actually a jerk.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I was like, like, how many baby daddies you got?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know the girl had several baby daddies. I

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Speaker 5: But when I speed dated with Toya, I actually liked her.

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Speaker 5: So later on when we left, I told the nurse

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Speaker 1: I was like, I like your girl. I like Toya.

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Speaker 5: I was like, you gotta hook that up Toy Toya,

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Speaker 5: and this nurse told Toya he ain't got enough money

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Speaker 5: for you what. So that's how Toya called me, basically

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Speaker 5: thinking to be like, hey, I don't know what she

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Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I want to take you out.

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Speaker 5: She said, I got a paper I got to write.

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Speaker 5: She was like, I got to rewrite it.

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Speaker 5: She was in her master's program. She was like, they

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Speaker 4: Yes, I rewrote her paper. Level the next level wrote

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Speaker 1: Paper with the no, not her thesis.

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Speaker 4: It was just a paper paper, did the notations the

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Speaker 2: And I go, day, wait a minute, hold and then

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Speaker 2: in the rest of history this is before y'all.

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Speaker 1: Day one doctor.

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Speaker 2: We been spent twenty dollars on the two for twenty

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Speaker 2: apple by.

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Speaker 1: I liked her. You rewrote Toya's paper. It was something

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was hooked over. It was over.

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Speaker 5: So it's like like you get that first bumps, it's over.

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Speaker 1: Toy is my drug. I have no idea that was.

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Speaker 4: So I've heard media crackhead that to my drug.

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Speaker 3: Oh whoy.

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Speaker 1: So you've always been sprang from day one. It has

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Speaker 1: never changed. No, we we have, don't get wrong, a handful,

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Speaker 1: but but you love that handful. I love the handful. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I heard this story. That's that's a really good one.

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Speaker 2: I need to hear how you and Simone met and

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Speaker 2: how did you snag doctor Simone.

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Speaker 3: So we're a spell House connection.

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Speaker 2: So for those outside of Georgia, that is Spellman, the

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Speaker 2: all girl black accredited college, and then more House, the

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Speaker 6: But we ended up being in the same apartment complex,

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Speaker 6: Spelman students lived there. So Simone and her girlfriend were

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, here come these girls. He come to girls.

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Speaker 3: My roommate and one other guy ran out and was

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Speaker 6: I'm playing video games and my boy, my roommate was

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Speaker 3: He was like, that's my girl right there.

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Speaker 6: I'm going with some mom and so young girl. He

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Speaker 6: about to steal girl. No, So I'm playing video games.

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Speaker 6: They come in. The two ladies come in. I was okay,

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Speaker 6: But my boy was like this my girl, I'm going

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Speaker 6: So some mom hit me up one day and said, hey,

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Speaker 6: I got a waterbed and my waterbed isn't working.

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Speaker 3: I need somebody to fix my waterbed. An eighties eighties.

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Speaker 6: Load, so you know you're fixing turnpapers, I'm fixing water bed.

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Speaker 1: And you're fixing waterbed.

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Speaker 6: So she's like, my waterbed, I said, I got a

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Speaker 3: I'll come down there and I'll hook you up.

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Speaker 6: I had a water bed, went downstairs, fixed her waterbed.

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Speaker 6: She was like, you're the best. I'm gonna make you dinner.

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Speaker 6: So I was like, oh cool, I'm in college.

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Speaker 3: So I go down. She makes some chicken wings, and.

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Speaker 6: She makes these chicken wings, makes a nice little dish.

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Speaker 6: It was a good food and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 6: and so we're down there, said hey.

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Speaker 3: So you know I appreciate this. This is so sweet.

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Speaker 6: I said, I know you and my man y'all going

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Speaker 3: To our our apartment, I said, hey, are you and

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Speaker 6: He's like, now that that's my girl. So I was like,

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Speaker 6: once he said that, I was like, okay, but did

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Speaker 1: A conversation with him to be like hey.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 6: When I went upstairs, I asked him. I was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: was like he finally came clean and was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: Come clean and say she cooked me dinner and I fixed.

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Speaker 3: He knew that. He knew that because he knew I

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Speaker 1: I was saying, so you were knowing college for fixing water?

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Speaker 1: Did I fix everything?

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Speaker 3: I do it all? I do it all.

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Speaker 6: I'm a renaissance man, I'm a morehouse man. I'm cooking,

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Speaker 3: I'm a rental and.

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Speaker 2: You're also you know, a main ingredient in the Maritime

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Speaker 2: Medicine show. I am obsessed with this show. I am

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Speaker 2: really appreciative of you two coming because look, the show

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Speaker 2: is successful, not only because of the strong women who

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Speaker 1: It's a fantastic show.

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Speaker 2: But let's be clear, without the men, the show will

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Speaker 2: just be another female ensemble docu series, which will be okay.

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Speaker 1: But I don't feel like the men on the show

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Speaker 1: get the props that y'all deserve.

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Speaker 2: So when doctor Eugene hit me up on Twitter, it's

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Speaker 2: a joke.

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Speaker 2: So when you hit me up on Twitter said you know,

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Speaker 2: we need to come on, and then Cecil said, yeah, Carlos.

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Speaker 1: Break up on? I said why not?

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Speaker 2: Because I love the show so much and I did

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Speaker 2: create this podcast so that people can have a voice

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Speaker 2: and I want to hear about the two of you

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Speaker 2: and what y'all think. So do y'all wives know that

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course. How did that go? Well? Toy, Well,

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Speaker 1: you want to show Toya for some reason it acts like.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been on the show with her for ten years,

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Speaker 5: Toya said, and I quote, have a good interview, talk

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Speaker 5: less to think more, and they are not your therapists.

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Speaker 5: So I hit her with a couple couple couple of means.

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Speaker 5: And my response was like, you think after ten years,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how to conduct myself, you know.

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Speaker 5: But I think the great thing about our show, it's

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Speaker 5: not just the fact that we got met here.

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Speaker 1: It's actually more of the couples.

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Speaker 5: You know, for a while, we were the one of

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Speaker 5: the only shows that had all married ensemble. If you

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Speaker 5: really think about it, there was you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: but besides that, even the housewives really aren't they weren't

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Speaker 5: they weren't married, you know, half of you know.

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Speaker 1: So to to just be able to showcase.

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Speaker 5: In a reality format married couples, the things we go through,

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Speaker 1: And I think what I.

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Speaker 2: I watched that entire season and even the reunion, and

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Speaker 2: It appeared that Tammy was coming in between your marriage

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because even okay, because again I watched the show,

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Speaker 1: Like what?

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Speaker 2: What was the moment in Simon's mind that shifted that

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Speaker 3: I don't know that this is the right answer, but

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00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: I will say this. There was a.

444
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 6: Time where Tammy had a flat tire and she called

445
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 6: me and said, hey, I'm on the side of the road.

446
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: I got a flat tire. Can you come and helped

447
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: me out?

448
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 6: And I went and I said okay, And I told

449
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 6: someone said, hey, Tammy's on the side of the road,

450
00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 6: I gotta go.

451
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help.

452
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 6: I think that maybe how I moved on that, like

453
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: I moved so fast, like it was like I gotta

454
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 6: go help Tammy.

455
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: I think that might have been.

456
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 6: A trigger for someone to be like, okay, wait a minute,

457
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 6: I don't get this saying.

458
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 5: I can I offer a different perspective, please do, because

459
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 5: me and Toya have had a conversation similar I think

460
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: for well, I was gonna say a woman, but actually

461
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 5: it could be either either gender.

462
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I think when.

463
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 5: Your spouse is confiding in the opposite sex about your relationship,

464
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 5: it becomes problematic, like you can be friends with them,

465
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 5: but don't talk to them about our relationship. So once

466
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 5: like surface stuff I think is okay. But if me

467
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: and Toya get into an argument and I call a

468
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: female friend to get advice about the argument. That's when

469
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 5: it becomes an issue for Toya.

470
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: No, And I think that's fair. But that wasn't. That

471
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: wasn't our relationship. That was not relationship. But that is fair.

472
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: That is a fair point because I saw.

473
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: You jump really fast to go jump start at someone's car,

474
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: got a flat tire?

475
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: Jump start?

476
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: No I'm saying that, but no, because I now again

477
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to sort of like paint a picture for

478
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: the world.

479
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand that.

480
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: If I am at home and my husband is doing

481
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: him and he comes into the room and says, Babe,

482
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: I gotta go town.

483
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: I got a flat tire.

484
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 2: I gotta pump it up right, I gotta.

485
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

486
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: And she sees you sweating, and she said, you got

487
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: your running nikes.

488
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: On and you are in the car paddle to the metal.

489
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: I can understand why she's sort of like, now, why

490
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: are you rushing to do that for her?

491
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, were you ever attracted

492
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: to Tammy?

493
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: No?

494
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Never?

495
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: Never?

496
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Is she an attractive woman.

497
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: She's an attractive woman.

498
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 6: But I mean, I like all I like them I

499
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: mean some of my friends would say. Some of my

500
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 6: friends would be like, okay, yeah, I know Cecil was

501
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 6: not attractive to Tammy. But the truth to the matter

502
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 6: is she's such a sweet lady, she's such a beautiful

503
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 6: spirit that she's an attractive woman. I just wasn't attracted to her.

504
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 6: I mean, but we played golf together, we hung out.

505
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 6: I mean, she's one of the nicest people you ever meet.

506
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 6: But at the same time running out the way I

507
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 6: did for her. And you know, of course, when you're married,

508
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 6: when you're in a relationship, people never feel like you

509
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 6: jump when they ask, right yes, And I probably didn't

510
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: jump every time someone ass and so to see me

511
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 6: jump in this occasion. And then when there was a

512
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 6: time when we had a snowstorm and someone was over

513
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 6: at North Side Hospital and I asked her like, are

514
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: you sure you need me to come get get you?

515
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: I think she tied those two together and.

516
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: Bingo, yeah, do you miss Tammy? I mean, yes, I do.

517
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 6: I do I miss Tammy.

518
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

519
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 6: Because we were in a golf group and now I'm

520
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 6: not in the golf group anymore, all the guys cut

521
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 6: me for Tammy. So we used to play in a golf.

522
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me your homeboys in the golf group.

523
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: I don't get anybody anymore. I get zero in.

524
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: But they chose Tammy over you.

525
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: They did, I mean they did, and I understand it.

526
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: So I didn't know that I'm gonna learn how to

527
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: play golf.

528
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: I played with her, I mean, but why so? It

529
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: is she a good golfer.

530
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: She's a good golfer. She's a good golfer. But she's

531
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: just a nice person.

532
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: But I think you're the nicest Thank you, But I

533
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: think so.

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I really do love you. I think you're the nicest

535
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: guy in the world.

536
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: I appreciate that color and I try to be nice.

537
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 6: But at the same time, I wasn't mad at my

538
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 6: guys for stop inviting me out to play golf. I

539
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 6: don't play with those guys anymore. And these are some

540
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 6: of the people. I introduced Tammy to these guys, and

541
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 6: I don't play in that group anymore.

542
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: I got new guys now.

543
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: I mean to me, Tammy, I mean, it's Tammy in

544
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: a relationship.

545
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: Now, I don't know, Like I said, I haven't talked

546
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: to her in like five plus years.

547
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Did you ever resent Simone for not being able to

548
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: continue this friendship. And now even hearing that you lost

549
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: your golf friends because of you ending.

550
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: This friendship, I didn't resent her at all.

551
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: I made a conscious decision when we were in New

552
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: York at the reunion talking about it, that you know

553
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 6: what if, because at that point, I mean, I've been

554
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 6: married twenty years, so I'm like, you know what if

555
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 6: this is gonna jeopardize me move be for my wife,

556
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: then I gotta let it go. And so I don't,

557
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 6: I don't falter. I'm totally fine with it. I'd make

558
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: the same decision tomorrow.

559
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: But she was my friend.

560
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So what you guys mentioned earlier is you

561
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: feel like the majority of y'all showcase your realized who

562
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: do you think on the show is not showcasing.

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Their real life?

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: Who's not here?

565
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Jackie and Curtis all right?

566
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: Put its way, when I think in the if you

567
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 5: look back in the show and you don't see a

568
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 5: lot of scenes in the person's home, I don't think

569
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: those people are showing their authentic self. Like there's there's

570
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: certain people I haven't I've never even stepped foot in

571
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: their homes.

572
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: From a camera, stem from a you know, well, like

573
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: they don't show it.

574
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, you physically well, i'd say wait into

575
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: a different times. Well, I think physical camera wise, there's

576
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 5: some people you don't really see their life that much

577
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 5: in their home. I think those people aren't being one

578
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 5: hundred percent authentic with everything. Yeah, they're showing a representation

579
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: of themselves.

580
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: And I'll just leave it at that. So as we're

581
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: talking about doctor Jack and Kurtis, I didn't say that,

582
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: you said that do what does Curtis do in the

583
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic?

584
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 6: So what he explained to us is that he's in

585
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 6: a group and they're looking to build a resort and

586
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 6: a part of the dr that's not fully established.

587
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: He told it was a development deal. But that's that's

588
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: all we know. We don't know anything else.

589
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: What's so funny, I don't know, you're looking around like

590
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: there's more today that we don't know anything else.

591
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: All because I saw flies fly ro because there was

592
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: a bullshing.

593
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: So allegedly Curtis is in the men of Republic building

594
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: a resort.

595
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 6: I mean no, I mean not even allegedly. I mean

596
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: he sent out the pamphlet. We saw the pamphlet where

597
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: he's one of the partners of this development group.

598
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I mean Jackie understands it.

599
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: Jackie sends it out and shows people he's part of

600
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 6: a development group building a resort in the dr Now

601
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: we done. We haven't gotten an invite to go, so

602
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 6: I haven't seen it with my own eyes.

603
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: When Curtis got caught at Atlanta Hartsbille International Airport going

604
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: through Spirit Airlines.

605
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Near frontier holding hands with a woman.

606
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: Carrying coach luggage, were you guys aware at that time

607
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: that he was having an affair?

608
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: No?

609
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: No, you never rebuilt.

610
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: No, and Curtis and I were friends. I mean I

611
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: met kurt Is.

612
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 6: I mean I knew Jackie before they got married, and

613
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 6: so I make characters as soon as she met him.

614
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 6: But no, we were not hanging out like that. I

615
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 6: mean I didn't know that he was. I didn't know

616
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: he had somebody on the side.

617
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: If you two would have known that he was cheating

618
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: on Jackie, would you have told your wives?

619
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 6: Uh, Eugenie, you want to answer first, because that's a

620
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: great question, because I think I know what Eugene is

621
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: gonna say.

622
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Me and Toya pretty open with each other. Pillow talk.

623
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: Beyond pillows, some kind of way. We Yeah, I mean,

624
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, keep it.

625
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: What probably would have done is real talk, my my.

626
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: My kind of general thing with this is heyto taught

627
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 5: to Jackie, because just just make sure she's okay relationship wise.

628
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 5: And I probably would have left it at that now,

629
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: like because I now. One thing I don't like doing

630
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: is it's like acting like I know something that I

631
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: don't now just because I see somebody with somebody, I'm

632
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: not going to assume is what I think it looks like,

633
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: because it could be something totally different. For instance, I

634
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: saw a friend the other day.

635
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer.

636
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: He was in a restaurant with a blond right, he's married.

637
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: Now I think he was. He was on a business meeting,

638
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: you know. But if you if you didn't know that

639
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: and you just ran with it and said, hey, you

640
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: know he over there with with this girl, you know, like,

641
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: that's that's wrong to put out, that's assuming. So just

642
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: because I see somebody out with somebody, I don't know

643
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: if that's his cousin, I don't know, if that's his

644
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: daughter's friend that he's you know, like I don't know

645
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: he's got a grown daughter that his daughter could have

646
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 5: been in the bathroom and that could have been he

647
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: could have been you know, like, it could have been

648
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: all kinds.

649
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Of different scenarios.

650
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: So I would have just been like, hey saw something,

651
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: don't know what it was, just check on Jackie.

652
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: Weis would have told you told me that. He wouldn't

653
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: have told you. Guys that would have told me.

654
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: He might he might would have telled me. I wouldn't tell.

655
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 6: I wouldn't tell someone because the other part of the

656
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: equation is is that I see so many times where

657
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 6: people go back and tell and then the person forgives

658
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: the person and now you're the you're the god man out.

659
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 6: So I would never do it.

660
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: I would never take Now, if he told me that,

661
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: my conversation with the man would have been a counseling.

662
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: Now that's different.

663
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: That's different.

664
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: No, No, I would have a I have a conversation,

665
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: a conversation.

666
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: Right, Look, I've had what can we do other than that.

667
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 6: I've had multiple friends. I've had multiple friends that had

668
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: gotten off track, and we've had conversations. Sometimes the conversations

669
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 6: go well, sometimes the conversations don't. But I'm going to

670
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: have a conversation with the guy. I'm not going back

671
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 6: and telling the wife though.

672
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no that I mean, listen, I think that's what

673
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: all men would do if if we're all being honest.

674
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Besides Eugene, they're watching Judy.

675
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: But other than that, this is the thing about maritive medicine,

676
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: and again, as a producer, this is what I feel

677
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: is missing. I love doctor Jackie. I think she's fantastic

678
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: on the show. She's what's needed for the show. She's

679
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: the medicine Marathon medicine. We were exposed to some infidelity

680
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: within her and Curtis marriage. I feel like ever since

681
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: that was exposed, we just don't see anything, and it

682
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: begs the question of what's happening.

683
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: Curtis is a pretty private person, like so of the

684
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: guys on the show. I'm probably closest with Cecil. I've

685
00:35:53,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: known Damon probably the longest and right after Damon Gregory.

686
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: But I do know Curtis is a pretty private person.

687
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: Like we're not friends, Like we talk on the phone.

688
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: You know, obviously we filmed together, but that's our interaction

689
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: and I think we're good.

690
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: But I understand that he is not the person who's

691
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: going to.

692
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 5: Share everything of his life before the infidelity or after,

693
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 5: and so he's just not the type to be filming,

694
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 5: like we film, it's just not gonna happen.

695
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: So you feel a lot. I do, and we love

696
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: seeing that. There has been tons of people. Doctor Heavenly

697
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: has called you sassy. She believes you are a sassy man.

698
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: What do you think.

699
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: When you hear that?

700
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: Because you're married to a woman who's on this show

701
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: that's very opinionated and the show is about couples. When

702
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: you hear that someone like Doctor Heavenly thinks you're sassy?

703
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Does that offend you? No? Put its way? I actually

704
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: I laugh it off. You know. I think a couple

705
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: of things.

706
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: One, I think this notion of manhood I think has

707
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 5: gotten the script has been. We've gotten off on. Like

708
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: if you're not in this mold that people think you're

709
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 5: supposed to be, right, yeah, then then you're either hyper

710
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: masculine or you as sissy, you know, sassy, whatever you

711
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: gin up, whatever you don't.

712
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Call whatever, I don't, I don't really give it.

713
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna buy hi address, like, okay, make

714
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: it a nice one. I know what I am, you know,

715
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: like I know what I am and I know what

716
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: I answer to you know. But I think there's different

717
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 5: ways to be a man, you know, like manhood isn't

718
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: one singular thing, just like womanhood is not one singular thing,

719
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: you know. And but this whole notion of women's business

720
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 5: and that that kind of thing, Like if we were

721
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: to rewind thirty years ars ago, the women wouldn't have.

722
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: Had anything to say.

723
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: We would have we'd just been man talk and we

724
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: would have squashed them and say no, you also stay

725
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: in your place, don't say anything. But I think, you know,

726
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 5: society is kind of overcorrected and oversteered where now women

727
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 5: are in this thing where we have a voice and

728
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: we're supposed to be equal, but now we're trying to

729
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: tear men down to not be able to have something

730
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: to say. My thing with the show is, you know,

731
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: we're all here, we're all filming, we're all you know,

732
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 5: have you know, you know, if you're talking about my family,

733
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: I should have something to say. That's not you know,

734
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: me being sassy, like I'm speaking up either for my

735
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 5: wife or my family or for myself, Like you don't

736
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: get to talk about my family and I don't have

737
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: an opinion, just you know, like I just don't see

738
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 5: why we're trying to silence a man's voice, because thirty

739
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: years ago we were trying to silence women's voice and

740
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 5: we said that was wrong, you know, and so it's

741
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: equally wrong to silence my voice as well. So you know,

742
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: I don't really care about the sassy comments or the

743
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 5: Ugina comments or.

744
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: But the thing about Okay's say, I know who I am.

745
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: I know who I am, and we love that you

746
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: are who you are, and we love that you as

747
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: a black man, you're very secure in your skin.

748
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: When and I said it to Quad and I said

749
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: it's to Toya.

750
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: When Quad called you Ugina, I did think, like, Okay,

751
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: that's too far.

752
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: And I said this to her.

753
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: There's been other things she said that I think we're further,

754
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 5: like what than Ugina, Like like like the stuff about

755
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 5: me and Toya were drunk driving with our kids, that

756
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 5: was further, you know, Like the stuff about we might

757
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: have robbed Kieran and Aneila, that was further. You know,

758
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: Like those are those are things that I take offense to,

759
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: and those are things I actually have said something about.

760
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: But then when I say something, it's we're gonna get

761
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: him addressed. I'm like, well, you kind of don't get

762
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: to say what you want about my family doing something criminal,

763
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 5: and I don't get to say something, you know, because

764
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 5: I'm a physician, like and you know some of the

765
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: stuff that Jackie's been saying lately about you know, you

766
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: don't get to say something about a physician like it's

767
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 5: it's the stakes are a little higher for us, you know,

768
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 5: because even though uh, you know, I have to I

769
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: have to get certified to work at these hospitals. And

770
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 5: if the CEO at the hospital looks at the show

771
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: and says, oh, he might be a criminal, you know,

772
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 5: like what if he says, well, I don't want him

773
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: working here. You know, I don't want Jackie working at

774
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: that hospital, and that that that that that that affects

775
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: my longevity and my ability to take care of patients

776
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 5: that I love, take care of my family that I love. Like,

777
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: you don't get just say I'm doing something criminal with

778
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: no proof. And so those are the times that I've

779
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: said something and people have been like, oh, well, you

780
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: stay out of women's business. No, that's not women's business.

781
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: This is this is everybody business. This is my business.

782
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: Now you're talking about my business, you know.

783
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: Well, and you know the thing that's disappointing about it.

784
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 6: And you know, I hate to go to the whole

785
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 6: race thing, but I do believe that it happens more on.

786
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: The Black shows.

787
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 6: Oh, you know, on the Black shows, if a man

788
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 6: has anything to say, he's being sassy, and you know,

789
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 6: and I love Nini, but I think when Nini started

790
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 6: out with Peter about being you know, Patricia and so forth,

791
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 6: I think she started the narrative that if a guy

792
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 6: has anything to say, that he's in women's business and

793
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 6: he shouldn't have anything.

794
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: To say on this show.

795
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 6: The other side to the coin is, as you know,

796
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 6: they're asking our opinions. Yeah, we're coming out and they're

797
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: asking our opinion to.

798
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Speak on it.

799
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 6: Now, sometimes we'll say things and sometimes we might decide,

800
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: you know what, I'm not going to speak on that.

801
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: And for me, that's not why we like this show.

802
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: Because you you made a good point.

803
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: Marrition Medicine is the first black reality show that focused

804
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: on married couples. And because of Maritime Medicine doing that

805
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: so successfully, and you may having opinions, I'm able to

806
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: have creative loving marriage. You know, a show to where

807
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: both men and women have an opinion. Now, the difference

808
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: with that show is they're all main stars of it,

809
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: and they all get paid. You guys do not get paid.

810
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: No American Madison, Right, do you feel like it's time

811
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: for you guys to get paid on the show?

812
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: Yes?

813
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: And no.

814
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: Now do I do I want to have the schedule

815
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 5: that my wife has with the show.

816
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm not.

817
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not available to film five times a week. Okay,

818
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: this is a part time kind of gig for me

819
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 5: when we're filming. But but do I I think the

820
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 5: audience when looking at it, wouldn't know that we're getting paid.

821
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 5: But the men, we are pivotal to the success of

822
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: the show, whether we're paid or not, whether we're in

823
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: the Dominican Republic or in Atlanta.

824
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: You know, like we're here, right, you my type of guy.

825
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: You guys are a pivotal part of the show, so

826
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: much so that you guys are storylines.

827
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Right. I want to talk about Quad.

828
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: Colors. You might want to look this way, talk about

829
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: don't look that way.

830
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's the case something, but real bro, talk What

831
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Quad? I wish it will? What

832
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you mean?

833
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: What are my thoughts? That's a very general question.

834
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, in terms of as a person, you know,

835
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 2: like you said, she has called you ugina, she has,

836
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, made comments about the robbery. She has apologized

837
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: to you and Toya about that on my podcast as well.

838
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: You two seem to have this very divisive relationship.

839
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Who has a divisive relationship you in Quad, me and Qui. Well,

840
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: it appears that you two go back.

841
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 5: And what my honest opinion about Quad, She's just not

842
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 5: my favorite person in the world because I wish her well.

843
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 5: I just I've I've let Quad back into my family's

844
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: circle multiple times, and it's it doesn't seem to go

845
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: well every time we say, okay, well, we'll hug after

846
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 5: an apology, and so I'm I'm I wish her well.

847
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: But I have nothing else really to say to Quad

848
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 5: necessarily like she you know, I can be in the

849
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 5: same room with anybody.

850
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't.

851
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: I don't wish no ill will on her. She's just

852
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 5: not my favorite person. She's Cecil's favorite person. So we

853
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: can talk to Cecil about that.

854
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: Do you accept her apology?

855
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 5: Of course I accept it, but that doesn't mean accept

856
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: an apology doesn't mean that I want to be your friend.

857
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: And there's and there's.

858
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people in this world that I

859
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: can I can wish them well, I can be in

860
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: the same room with them, But I just I'm not

861
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: confiding in you. I'm not necessarily wanting to be your friend.

862
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 5: There was some hurtful things over the years, and and

863
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: and Toy has mentioned this multiple times.

864
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure, are you still hurt by it?

865
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 5: I think I think the robbery stuff and the cheating

866
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 5: stuff and the drunk driving stuff, we're biggies.

867
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Like I think.

868
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 5: I think our show, the platform of reality TV, I

869
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: get the shade like like some shade like even stuff

870
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: I've said, I've said a bunch of stuff, you.

871
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Know, sometimes I just get to I say stuff.

872
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: Curtis checked me on one thing that I said. I said, Hey,

873
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 5: that was I was joking. That was over the line,

874
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 5: the whole dunkin in the basket thing, That was a joke.

875
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 5: I apologize. I think he forgives me. But if he doesn't,

876
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: you know, but.

877
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I think he does.

878
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 5: But I think there's you can't ofss a line in

879
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 5: reality TV where when you start talking about people doing

880
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: something criminal and you have no proof, you know, like

881
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: that's that's when I think it's really crossing a big

882
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: line where you're saying things.

883
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: That could result like like the whole cheating thing or

884
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: accusing toy you of cheating right with someone in the neighborhood.

885
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 5: Now I know, I know the backstory behind some of

886
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 5: this because and that's the thing. Another another thing why

887
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: I think the show is so successful.

888
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: We all kind of knew each other.

889
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 5: We've known each other for a long time, and some

890
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 5: of the stuff that comes up on our show, it

891
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 5: isn't I don't think even explained well once you edit

892
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: and shop it.

893
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to.

894
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: Explain some of the stuff because some of the stuff

895
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: go real deep, you know. So if I was the

896
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: type of person guy, if I was this ultra masculine

897
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: guy who I heard that my wife was cheating with,

898
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: who it was said was cheating with, if I was

899
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: the type to just go over to this house, that

900
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been a good scenario at all. But I'm

901
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 5: not that tight. Luckily, you know, I'm saying true.

902
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: I had, I had. I had just a conversation with

903
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: my wife.

904
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: We talked about it, and I believe, and I believe

905
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: my wife.

906
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: Did you ask Toya whether or not she cheated on

907
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: you with this guy.

908
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Well, well, actually, well who she who? Who it was

909
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be.

910
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 5: I thought it was funny because I know Toy doesn't

911
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: even like this person that much, you know. But we

912
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: did have a convers you know, because once it comes up,

913
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: you still got to have a conversation, you know, And.

914
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: There was a was there a small part of you believe.

915
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: That there's always I think there's always gonna be a

916
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 5: gut punch anytime somebody tells you your wife is with

917
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: somebody else, whether it's true or not. Now, once I

918
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: heard it, gut punch, but it's like that's not even possible.

919
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 5: Then you have the conversation with your wife and be like,

920
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: okay that this all makes sense, you know, problem solved.

921
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 5: But still the person who kind of perpetuates the rumor

922
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: doesn't know that I'm the type to just have a

923
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 5: conversation with my wife. Because there are some guys out

924
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: there who are not going to have a conversation. They're

925
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 5: gonna go be very active, like proactive, and try to

926
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 5: do something to the guy. They're either just gonna leave

927
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 5: the girl and be like, well you're cheating, and she's

928
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: gonna be like baby, this this this, I'm not and

929
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 5: he may not believe, you know what. I was just

930
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: not believing, like she's qua said you were cheating, so

931
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 5: I gotta believe it her.

932
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not that type.

933
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: But it's still you're saying something that could have caused

934
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 5: a lot of problems, you know, the whole Well, what

935
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 5: if we robbed Anela and Kieren. That's that's a big deal,

936
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: you know, And a lot of people are probably are like, well,

937
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: why are you all because because recently we're we've gotten

938
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 5: back in I think a friendly kind of situation with

939
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 5: Anela and Kieran. But they've been both very apologetic, you know,

940
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: very you know, and to the point where I'm like, okay,

941
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 5: I believe y'all.

942
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Now.

943
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 5: The first time, the first time Toya said, hey, come

944
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: over kire in o'neila's house, I was like, I'm not going.

945
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Over there for what she's apologized to me, you know.

946
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: I was like, so I don't mean nothing, you know.

947
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: But now I get like I've hung out with them

948
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 5: a couple of times. I think they're now genuine and

949
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: so it's about how you act after the apology, not

950
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: after the apology. Quads apologize multiple times you know, there's

951
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 5: been multiple girls on the show. To apologize multiple times

952
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: doesn't mean anything afterwards.

953
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: So you talked to see some Now Qua's your favorite person.

954
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 6: I mean, she's not my favorite person, but she's she's sweet.

955
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 6: I mean, like I mean, but you got to remember,

956
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 6: there's there's a history here. I mean, I mean we've

957
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 6: known quite ten years. I mean, we've hung out outside

958
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 6: the show. You know, we went to Vegas for the

959
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 6: Mayweather fight when her and Gregory with it. We're still married.

960
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 6: You know, I was pulling for her and Gregory to

961
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 6: be able to pull their relationship up together. My experience

962
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 6: hasn't been the same as Eugene, and you know, and

963
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 6: Eugene and I talk about this all the time because

964
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 6: we're good friends and we'll have conversations. He'll raise something

965
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 6: to me and I'll be like, yeah, that's a good point.

966
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 6: It's hard for me to see it because like, she

967
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 6: never comes at me that way, right, And everything that

968
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: I've seen from her has been, at least from from

969
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 6: our family's.

970
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Perspective, has been pretty genuine. And that's the part I like, Yeah.

971
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: And I do think, you know, one of the things

972
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: about the cheating thing, and again This is just me

973
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: watching the show because I think Toya accused Quad of

974
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: sleeping with the contractors.

975
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 5: No, she just she just somebody else said that first.

976
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Somebody on the.

977
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: Show said, yeah, Toya wasn't the initiative.

978
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Who was?

979
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 6: I think my wife might have been the first one

980
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 6: repeat it.

981
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: She repeats it, but Red the first she did.

982
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: She I didn't.

983
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 6: My wife might have been the first one to repeat it,

984
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 6: but she repeated it on something that somebody else had

985
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 6: told her too, which she shouldn't have done.

986
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 3: But she did.

987
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: The now the bite that you see a lot.

988
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 5: I think the biggest conversation about it, I think was reunion, Yes,

989
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 5: and that was between Quad and Toya. So it makes

990
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 5: it like it's a bigger thing and it's kind of

991
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 5: timestamp for the audience at that moment. But Toy didn't

992
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 5: say that first. That was not something Toya knew or

993
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: was going seeking like, that's not that wasn't her. That

994
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 5: wasn't her tea that she came up with.

995
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 6: It.

996
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: So obviously, when you guys started the show, Quad was

997
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: married to doctor g. We saw the up and downs

998
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: of their relationship, then the divorce, and he was not

999
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: on this show anymore. And now that he's back, he's

1000
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: with Sweet Tea. What do you guys feel about Doctor

1001
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: G coming back to Maritime Medicine, I.

1002
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: Pussu way, just because you know, just in the same

1003
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 5: way that we're saying the men are pivotal to the show,

1004
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: and the men you know, we've we've stuck in there

1005
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 5: for the show for a long time. Doctor G was

1006
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 5: there from the beginning, you know, So him coming back

1007
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: is like it's like a character that kind of left

1008
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: for a second and came back, you know, Like I

1009
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: look at I look at the show like an audience

1010
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 5: person looking at the show.

1011
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: I like Doctor G. Back in the day.

1012
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was hilarious, you know, and so and

1013
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 5: I still think he's larious. I think he's good for

1014
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 5: the show. But I like him now coming back because

1015
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: he really looks happy now. So just as a personal man,

1016
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 5: the man thing, I like, I like this Doctor G.

1017
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: Better you think Sweet teammates Doctor.

1018
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: I think I just see him as a happy person.

1019
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Happier, happier, Yes.

1020
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the beauty of it though too.

1021
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: The beauty of it.

1022
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 6: Is we're getting to see Doctor G in a different light, right.

1023
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 5: Because the evolution of somebody, you know. I like seeing that.

1024
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he looks he looks different.

1025
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean even in their scenes when they're in the

1026
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 6: home together that we don't know what's going on, but

1027
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 6: when we watch it, like, Okay, he.

1028
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: Took the trash out. You know, they showed him taking

1029
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: the trash out this year. He never took the trash

1030
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: out with cud. So, I mean, you know, just.

1031
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 6: To see that and to see him, you know, because

1032
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 6: here's the other side to it. You know, Gregory and

1033
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 6: I play golf together. We were hanging out even when

1034
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 6: he wasn't on the show. But the thing that I

1035
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 6: think is important is doctor G being a psychiatrist. I

1036
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 6: think it's important to our community to have someone like

1037
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 6: him on the show, to be able to have a

1038
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 6: voice for some of the stuff that we got going

1039
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 6: on in our mental state and what's going on.

1040
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: In the community. And I think doctor G is is

1041
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: an amazing voice. I hope he writes.

1042
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 6: I've been pushing him to write a book to talk

1043
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 6: about mental health. I mean, it's needed in our community.

1044
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 6: And doctor G is an amazing doctor. I mean, he

1045
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 6: is an amazing doctor. I've seen him on a golf

1046
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 6: trip stop playing get to come off the course to

1047
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: go and talk to his patients.

1048
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: He's not on.

1049
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 6: Call, but someone found out, you know, they had his number.

1050
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: They send him a message, he calls him back. The

1051
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 6: guy is amazing And so for me to have someone

1052
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 6: like that on the show, that gives everyone who's watching

1053
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 6: the show a different perspective, you know, because I mean,

1054
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 6: doctors are real people. And that's the thing that I

1055
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 6: love about Married to medicine. Yes, everyone was on the

1056
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 6: show and married. But the other side to this equation

1057
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 6: is these are real doctors. And we're not talking about

1058
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 6: just Jackie and Simone, but Jackie, Simon, Damon, Eugene Gregory,

1059
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 6: I mean, Alicia Kima.

1060
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: These are real doctors.

1061
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 6: And and this is not a situation where these people

1062
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: are playing doctors on TV. Yeah, and and not everyone

1063
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 6: grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. These

1064
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: are people who grew up regular like everyone else, but

1065
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 6: they went the extra mile to become a doctor. To me,

1066
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 6: that's an amazing, amazing I think that's what sets our

1067
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 6: show apart.

1068
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like you said, it's to highlight and showcase

1069
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: that love of black excellence when it came.

1070
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 6: To and heavenly too. I just want to make sure

1071
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 6: I didn't say heavy. Did I say that? I don't

1072
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: know if I did. I just want to make sure

1073
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 6: I said heavenly too. Okay, it's an amazing It's an

1074
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 6: amazing cast of accomplished black folks. Some folks went to HBCU,

1075
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 6: some didn't, but folks that grew up with, some folks

1076
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: with single parents, didn't have a whole bunch of money.

1077
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 6: I mean some more. Own story is amazing. I tell

1078
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 6: her all the time, you should be writing a book.

1079
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: She grew up with, She grew with her and her

1080
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 6: Her mom and dad divorced when Simone was younger, and

1081
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 6: Simone decided when she was twelve she was going to

1082
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 6: be a doctor, and she did everything in her power

1083
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 6: to make that happen.

1084
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: To me, that's amazing.

1085
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now listen.

1086
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: That's why again it's the best shown Bravo, because I

1087
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: think what it does is shows the audience and even

1088
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: the hopfols, the way we were watching a different world

1089
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: and we saw black people in college and it made

1090
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: us all want to go to an HBCU. You know,

1091
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: My hope for this show is that it showcases that

1092
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: you too can be a doctor. In whatever you know

1093
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: form that may be, whether it's dentistry, er surgeon, all

1094
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: that stuff. Mariah Hawk obviously created this show. Do you two,

1095
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: being the men behind, you know, the women who are

1096
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: the face of the show, do you feel like, at

1097
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was wrong for Marijah

1098
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: to get kicked off this show she created.

1099
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 5: I think Mariah did an amazing job putting this together

1100
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 5: in the beginning, like like I've made you know again,

1101
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 5: I was being being somebody who was there from the

1102
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 5: very very beginning, even before we got picked up with Pop.

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00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 5: You know, we were in the first this is a

1104
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 5: real with the other company. I think she did a

1105
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: wonderful job. I think, if you want my honest opinion,

1106
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 5: some of the background stuff between her and production company,

1107
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: I think that got muddy. It wasn't her on Sene Persona.

1108
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't her relationship with the girls either. In my opinion,

1109
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 5: I think Maria's not on our show because of some

1110
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 5: internal stuff with the people who did the production company

1111
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 5: with that produces our show, because it's not I don't

1112
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: like the narrative that I see on Twitter, where uh,

1113
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: the girls got rid of marian and the girls got

1114
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 5: rid of Quad, none of none of these ladies can

1115
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: get rid of anybody there there there are individuals they can't.

1116
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: Then now they can.

1117
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 5: They can ask you to leave a party, they can

1118
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 5: ask you to leave Napa from their trip. But they

1119
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 5: can't kick you off a show. Only you can kick

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: you off a show, and only you and your relationship

1121
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: with the people who sign your check can't get rid

1122
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 5: of you.

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00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: And so and just like you know shows that you.

1124
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 5: Put on, you know, uh, there's there's there's no two

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: people on that you pay. They can get rid of

1126
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: another person that you pay, You can get rid of them,

1127
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: but they can't. And so I just I think the

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00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 5: narrative that the ladies bound together.

1129
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: To exile you know her, like like she.

1130
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 5: Was Napoleon and now she's on the island. I don't

1131
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 5: it didn't work that way. It makes sense for or

1132
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 5: somebody who watches the show. I think because people that

1133
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 5: watched the show don't think that there's a production company.

1134
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 5: They think that's real. They think everything they see is like, well,

1135
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 5: they asked Quad to leave. That's why Quad ain't back.

1136
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 5: You know, it's like, well kuhy my name be backcause

1137
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: Quaid didn't show up.

1138
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: On time.

1139
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 5: You know, QUI my name be back, because when Cod

1140
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 5: shows up, she said, I'm only here for my check,

1141
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 5: not for y'all.

1142
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1143
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that

1144
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 5: are going on that people don't see. So but but

1145
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 5: to go full circle, I think, I think Mariah put

1146
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 5: together an amazing ensemble.

1147
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: I think the idea to have people who really, really

1148
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: actually knew.

1149
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: Each other to do this this this this thing was

1150
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: amazing and that's why we've stayed on TV for ten

1151
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 5: years because we organically worked. And honestly, I think that's

1152
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 5: why Houston didn't work. That's why La didn't work, because

1153
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: you were trying to and picked these weird, random people

1154
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 5: that didn't know each other and didn't bring them together.

1155
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 5: We already knew each other, and so that's why when

1156
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: we get mad, we get real, real mad, you know.

1157
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: But when we get happy, we get real happy.

1158
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 5: And that's why the longevity has been the way it's

1159
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 5: been because it's very organic. So I do give Mariah

1160
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 5: all the credit for that.

1161
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Mariah's amazing.

1162
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 6: I mean we're not sitting here talking to you without Mariah.

1163
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 6: And not only that, I mean to look at five

1164
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 6: of the women, the main cast women were all brought

1165
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 6: in by her. These aren't people that were auditioned by

1166
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 6: the production company. These are her people. And to Eugene's point,

1167
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 6: I think.

1168
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 5: Technically Toya introduced Heavenly to Mariah.

1169
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, but it's all still it all still

1170
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 6: comes to it still all comes through Mariah. And I

1171
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 6: truly believe if Mariah was involved with Houston in LA,

1172
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 6: it might have been different, because I think her eye

1173
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 6: for reality.

1174
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: TV is different. She's amazing, She's amazing.

1175
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 6: But to Eugenie's point, there were some things going on

1176
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 6: behind the scenes that we had a chance to witness

1177
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 6: that wasn't pretty.

1178
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: She said on my podcast that there were some intense

1179
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: conversations and moments, you know, she did say that, Yeah,

1180
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: I said this show was married to Mariah because I

1181
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: felt like they were trying to erase history, that they

1182
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: were trying to ice me out. And I have to

1183
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: constantly fight as a black woman to be heard and

1184
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: to be seen and to be respected. Are those things

1185
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: that you guys have seen her fight to do and

1186
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: to be I mean.

1187
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 6: We saw those, but we also saw other stuff too,

1188
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 6: Like what cecil.

1189
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 5: I mean, well, can I I'm gonna try to say

1190
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: this as diplomatically as I can.

1191
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: I think some people just like to fight. Some people

1192
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of fight in them.

1193
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that there's somebody on the other side

1194
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 5: that's even wanting to fight.

1195
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: Well that makes sense.

1196
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 6: Well let me let me let me hold on, hold on,

1197
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 6: let me let me let me say this part about it.

1198
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 6: So the other side to this, I think is we

1199
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 6: were not involved when Mariah signed her deal with the

1200
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 6: production company, So we don't know what they agreed to

1201
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 6: from a executive producer standpoint, a money standpoint, rolling out

1202
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 6: on other shows.

1203
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: We don't know what happened with that. But what I can.

1204
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 6: Tell you is this based on how she reacted to

1205
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 6: the production company. Whatever deal she got wasn't one that

1206
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 6: she was pleased with. And so because she wasn't pleased

1207
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 6: with her deal, when the production folks were around, she

1208
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 6: would get in the ass, I mean, and we we

1209
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 6: would actually be filming a scene, that's what, and she

1210
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 6: might say something in the camera directly to the production

1211
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 6: company and we're filming. She know that sit getting cut out,

1212
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 6: but she might say something directly to the production company like.

1213
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean, she was.

1214
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 6: Upset and again I don't know what her deal was.

1215
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if they were nigged. She might have

1216
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 6: been well within her right to be upset. I don't know,

1217
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 6: but she was. She was hot and it came off.

1218
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 6: And so if I you know, I'm a business person.

1219
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: You know I worked at Cocola for twenty years, Corporate

1220
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 6: America for twenty five years. If I'm running a business

1221
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 6: and someone is working for me, is what I call

1222
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 6: being insubordinate, Probably gonna let them go.

1223
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think technically.

1224
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 2: He said it in a very concise way for all

1225
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: of us to get a clear picture of it.

1226
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know. If you guys saw her on

1227
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: my podcast.

1228
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: She's in a beautiful place and she built the studio

1229
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: in MacDonough. And do you guys still keep in touch

1230
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: with Aiden or no?

1231
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: He cut us loose? I mean, and and I love Aiden.

1232
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: Aiden was a good guy. You know.

1233
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 6: Mariah, Mariah's family to us. I know she talked about

1234
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 6: it on your podcast. I mean her, her her aunt

1235
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 6: was our nanny, Simone delivered right right her her her son,

1236
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 6: and so I mean it was it was tough. I'm

1237
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 6: not gonna lie to you when Mariah wasn't on the show.

1238
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: It was hurtful. It was hurtful for me, and it

1239
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: was hurtful for someone.

1240
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 5: And and and I watched, I watched the podcast she

1241
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 5: did with Mariah and and I think she even alluded

1242
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 5: to it a little bit her last season. Toy and

1243
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 5: I were still in her corner.

1244
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she loves Toya.

1245
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were still And to this day, I was like,

1246
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 5: I think she was wrong on a couple of things.

1247
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: I will always say that. And we were on her

1248
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 5: on her side that last season. But again it goes

1249
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 5: to what Cecil was saying, some of the stuff outside

1250
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 5: of the ladies, outside of all the couples. I think

1251
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 5: it's why she's not here. I just, I just I

1252
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 5: just don't like the narrative that we got rid of anybody,

1253
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 5: because that's not possible.

1254
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: We can't do that. I want to talk about you

1255
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: and Toya.

1256
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: Toya was on my podcast, and I love your wife,

1257
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: and she and I bo from Detroit, and we have

1258
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: this special bond. And I'm very honest with Toya. And

1259
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: I said to Toya, I was not happy when she

1260
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: would make comments about.

1261
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: You, which which woman we got all day.

1262
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: Hell listen side listen, you know how much I adore you.

1263
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: I was going through a family situation recently, and thank

1264
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: you to Toya. I reached out to her to get

1265
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: through you and you have been there for me for

1266
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: some very crucial months in my life. And I went

1267
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: the world to know that, from doctor Jackie to you,

1268
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: I will always be grateful for the love that you

1269
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: guys have shown me behind the scenes. And because of you,

1270
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: my situation has gotten better with the family member. So

1271
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: I wanted the world to know that I have a

1272
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: deep affection for you because you are You are a

1273
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: great man, and you are a great doctor. And when

1274
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: I when I spoke to Toya my podcast last year,

1275
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: and this is before my situation was happening with my

1276
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: family member, I said, I don't like the way you

1277
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: talked to him.

1278
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: I didn't like how she would make references to you

1279
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: having a small penis.

1280
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 5: She didn't though the ladies took okay, okay, no, nor

1281
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 5: go ahead one. She cleared it up on a recent

1282
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 5: podcast Okay she's We talked even the the day that

1283
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 5: this all came out. What she said and what the

1284
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 5: conversation was about was when you get married, it is

1285
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 5: what it is Okay. Now I know my wife and

1286
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 5: I know me. I bring up weird little references. I've

1287
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 5: done it today multiple times. We just say little stuff

1288
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 5: to get our point across. There's a little on the

1289
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 5: edge of where.

1290
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: We probably should now what she what?

1291
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 5: She was giving examples to the ladies, like, you get married,

1292
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 5: this ain't gonna get no different.

1293
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: If you be happy with what you got, because.

1294
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 5: It's not gonna get no no different, hopefully if his

1295
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 5: penis ain't gonna getting bigger. And I would say to

1296
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: say that her but ain't gonna get no bigger.

1297
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: No.

1298
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: I watched no no, No, I watched the episode Toya

1299
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: sand Burbato. She said, she said, I thought when I

1300
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: got married, I thought that his penis would get bigger.

1301
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: That's not what she said. I saw it on the show.

1302
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: What did she got? What it back?

1303
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 5: She said, he said his penis not mine. She said

1304
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 5: his the it's not going to get any bigger. Yeah,

1305
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 5: she said his penis isn't his penis. No, she said,

1306
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 5: she said his penis isn't going to get any bigger.

1307
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1308
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 5: So be happy with whatever you got. Now here's the

1309
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 5: flip side.

1310
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, now do you all think that.

1311
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 5: This person who claims on every green screen that I've

1312
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 5: ever done with her for the last ten years is

1313
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 5: the sexual demon.

1314
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: Do you think she would be with.

1315
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 5: Somebody who couldn't satisfy her? I don't think so. Toya's

1316
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 5: a very good looking woman.

1317
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: She is top three, the top one, of course.

1318
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 5: Okay, so so so toy is. I don't say if

1319
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 5: I couldn't do what I needed to do and was

1320
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 5: in adequate enough, yes, I don't think she'd still be.

1321
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: So you weren't offended by that comment when you first

1322
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: heard it, I didn't like.

1323
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't like the penis conversation because because I'm

1324
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: I'm truth be told, I'm an extra to introvert. I'm

1325
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 5: actually pretty. If you leave me alone, I could just

1326
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 5: sit and not talk to nobody. Yes, I can perform,

1327
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 5: but this ain't to me. By myself, is a pretty

1328
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 5: quiet person. So when I'm hearing that my penis is

1329
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 5: being talked about on on the reunion show, I'm not happy.

1330
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 5: You know, do I like business being thrown at me?

1331
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm not happy? But do I know who I married? Absolutely?

1332
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: Was there a conversation. We have a toy, but we

1333
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: talked about it.

1334
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: What about the conversations when it comes to she's not

1335
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: being satisfied in the sex department.

1336
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 5: Now, no, that's now, that's that's separate, and that that

1337
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 5: actually was a journey that I and I've been very

1338
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 5: vocal about that, Like, there was a point where I

1339
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 5: think I was getting a little bit depressed, and I

1340
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 5: started when the pandemic was going on, and.

1341
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: Toy talked about that.

1342
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 5: I thought it was all the pandemic, but even maybe

1343
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 5: a couple years before the pandemic hit, I was starting

1344
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 5: to get a little lazy at home, kind of to myself,

1345
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 5: not really my zest for life was kind of like down.

1346
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 5: And didn't know what it was until I went to

1347
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 5: the doctor. I was like, please check my testosterone level.

1348
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm, you know, mid forties. I was like,

1349
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 5: just check it, you know, And I think it's an

1350
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 5: important thing, I think just for men's health, you know,

1351
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 5: for us to talk about, like once a man gets

1352
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 5: to the point where they're like thirty five, sometimes your

1353
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 5: testosterone level starts to drop naturally and.

1354
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: You need replacement. Just like if you're a diabetic, if.

1355
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 5: You're insulin levels are down, you need to take some

1356
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: you know, you know, like it's a hormone and if

1357
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 5: it's down, you need to replace. My testosteronal level was

1358
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 5: like at the level of like a sixty five year

1359
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 5: old man. And so getting replaced like now I'm like, oh,

1360
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 5: I feel good again, my you know, like I can

1361
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 5: do stuff in the bedroom now. I'm losing weight now,

1362
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 5: you know. And so those are the things that like,

1363
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 5: even just doing it for myself. That's why I opened

1364
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 5: up like my clinic now, you know, Recharged Wellness, where

1365
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 5: I'm doing hormone replacement for people, doing weight loss for people,

1366
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: because I've lost fifty five pounds, like I feel amazing,

1367
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: But I get you know, like you know, marriages are

1368
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 5: up and down for all different kinds of reasons, whether

1369
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 5: it's you know, the stuff that Cecil talked about earlier,

1370
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 5: whether it's you know, somebody's got a hormone issue. There's

1371
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 5: gonna be these, you know, but you just got to

1372
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 5: figure out what the problem is and then fix it.

1373
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: Y'all fixed it. I was like, Okay, obviously there's something

1374
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: wrong with me. Let me go fix that, you know.

1375
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 5: So I don't I don't take offense that Toya was like, hey,

1376
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm alone in this house, you know,

1377
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 5: And because that's her truth, and I had to man

1378
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 5: up and be like, Okay, yeah, you're right, you know,

1379
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 5: because I'm not as attentive, and now that I've gotten

1380
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 5: my stuff together, I'm a lot more attentive and I

1381
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 5: think a lot more engaged with all facets of the relationships.

1382
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 5: So I don't mind her saying that kind of stuff, because.

1383
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: You've revealed recent in a recent episode that the word

1384
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: divorce they come up.

1385
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: Why did that work come up during your marriage? Uh?

1386
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 5: We got there's a lot of ups and downs, you know, Like,

1387
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 5: like I think, for as much as we we, Toy

1388
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: and I are both fire science, we're both mouthy. We

1389
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 5: both think we're right all the time, and sometimes that clashes,

1390
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 5: you know. And then when you have like this a

1391
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 5: lot of external stuff, like the cheating stuff. Even though

1392
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you think the stuff bounces off you,

1393
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 5: but to a certain point, you know, it can affect

1394
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 5: you to the point where you're like, yeah, I know

1395
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 5: that's not true, but.

1396
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: Are we good? You know.

1397
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 5: And then when you're you're not spending as much time

1398
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 5: you got the rigmarole with the kids, you know, like

1399
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 5: you really got to re engage. And that's why this year,

1400
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 5: with like the dates that we've been doing, just kind

1401
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 5: of re engaging as a couple, I think was important.

1402
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 5: And honestly, I see on some own, just like we

1403
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 5: tried to help them, they they had an intervention with us.

1404
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 5: Uh oh yeah, this wasn't shown, but uh, you know,

1405
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 5: we got invited. We got invited to dinner when this

1406
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 5: was before this was in between seasons and nine.

1407
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, between nine and ten.

1408
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well if we had a camera, boy.

1409
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: So you and Simone took it upon.

1410
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 5: You and saying some other mutual friends and some other

1411
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 5: friends got got.

1412
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: Me and Toya.

1413
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 3: We got invited.

1414
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 5: We got invited to dinner, dinner, and it was nice dinner.

1415
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 5: And then they took us in the basement and sat

1416
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 5: us down.

1417
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: It was like we went in, look you to.

1418
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 5: We went in because I because I was saying, you know,

1419
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 5: and you know, once you get to you know, if

1420
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 5: you have a day of being married where you're arguing,

1421
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 5: no big deal. But when you get to the point

1422
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 5: where you're arguing for a couple of weeks, you know,

1423
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 5: obviously Toya probably was talking to someone and I'm calling

1424
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 5: see like, no, you don't done this done that talking

1425
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 5: to me any kind of way, I bet that it's

1426
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 5: not gonna happen, you know, Like then you get to

1427
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 5: the point where like, okaylet's set y'all down before this

1428
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: gets any worse.

1429
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 6: So we love them together, right, I mean, they they

1430
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 6: get each other. They are in my opinion, they they

1431
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 6: feed off of each other. Where I think some of

1432
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 6: what makes Toya great is some of the challenges that

1433
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 6: Eugene will push her to. Some of the things that

1434
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 6: Eugene I think gets out of his probably his safe zone,

1435
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 6: is because Toya pushes him.

1436
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: I love that.

1437
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 6: And to see them between nine and ten going off

1438
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 6: in different directions, I was like, wait a minute, we

1439
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 6: can't have this, and so it was.

1440
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: It was a spirited conversation.

1441
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 5: Now I think I think the push pushing is is

1442
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 5: the right is the right word? You know, when you

1443
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: when when you when you think somebody is pushing you

1444
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 5: because you feel like they have good intentions, then you're okay.

1445
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: With the push.

1446
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 5: But when your focus is you know, the kids, work this,

1447
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: that and the other, then when you get pushed and

1448
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: you're not paying attention to why you got pushed, you

1449
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 5: feel like it's an attack and I think for a

1450
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 5: second we felt like we were being attacked by each

1451
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 5: other as opposed to being pushed because the other person

1452
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: loved us and was trying to make us better. So

1453
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 5: we were fussing about stuff that was like, well, you're

1454
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: not helping me, Well you're not helping me. It's like, well,

1455
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 5: we actually just if we just band together, we realized

1456
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 5: that we have the same goals. You're team, You're on

1457
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 5: the same team. We just need to refocus. So that's

1458
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 5: why I was like, after a certain point in marriage,

1459
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 5: I think you really have to re engage, especially once

1460
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 5: you once your kids get to be like that preteen

1461
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 5: age when they don't need you as much. You got

1462
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 5: to re engage back into almost like a dating, courting

1463
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 5: kind of thing because your focus so much was about

1464
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: keeping these kids okay. And then all of a sudden,

1465
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 5: they're fine.

1466
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: They don't need you.

1467
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 5: You know, they wake up in the morning, go to school,

1468
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 5: they come home, they make their own food. They don't

1469
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: really need nothing except for some guidance on big issues.

1470
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 5: Now we're sitting in the house like looking at each other, like, okay, well,

1471
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 5: for the last five years I have new interests and

1472
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 5: she's got new interests and we're looking at each other

1473
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 5: like who are you?

1474
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: Who are you? You know?

1475
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 5: And so then when when the person tries to say,

1476
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 5: well you need to do X Y and Z was like,

1477
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: well you don't know me, you know who you to

1478
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 5: tell me?

1479
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: Like I you know.

1480
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 5: And the same thing with her, like I'm like I

1481
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 5: don't want to hear about tennis, you know, She's like,

1482
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: well I love tennis.

1483
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it. You know.

1484
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 5: It's like like we were just talking two different languages,

1485
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: you know.

1486
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 2: So you guys saw that and obviously, like you said,

1487
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: you were confiding him and she would confide in some

1488
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: own So you guys have this intervention with other couples

1489
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: to really save this marriage.

1490
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 6: The beauty of the del Carlos was this. When we

1491
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 6: were talking to Eugene, Toya was the one that was

1492
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 6: like protecting him. She was like no, no, no, no, no,

1493
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 6: you don't get it. When we were talking to Toya

1494
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 6: and Santoya, you can't do this, Eugene was the one

1495
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 6: Protectoya who runs. Once I saw that, I was like, okay,

1496
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 6: they good.

1497
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, But it's one of those like that's the beauty

1498
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 5: of having couples that knew that they've already been on

1499
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 5: that journey.

1500
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: They knew what we what.

1501
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 5: Was about to happen, So it was like, let's talk

1502
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 5: to y'all before it happens.

1503
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: You know. No, that's again. But that's why we love

1504
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: this show.

1505
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: We love the season poper Union when they rallied with

1506
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: you and Doctor Simone, and we love that we're able

1507
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: to hear that too, because look, I know you read

1508
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 2: things about your wife. People really are afraid that Toya

1509
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 2: is going to take you to the poorhouse?

1510
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: Is there any fear? And no, I'm gonna tell you

1511
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: what it is.

1512
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 2: They feel like this poor even last night when I

1513
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: was on Live with Doctor Heavenly. People are obsessed with

1514
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: this dynamic because.

1515
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: They feel sorry for you. They think Toya is spending

1516
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: all your money.

1517
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,799
Speaker 5: Toya makes more money than I do. Right now, okay, okay,

1518
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: go right for for over a year time, for the

1519
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 5: last several year, buch hair, just toyo.

1520
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 7: Love, She'll go look up, get in trouble, brobably, let

1521
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 7: the run ain't no love.

1522
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: Let the loves more money than you?

1523
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 6: Yes?

1524
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 5: So how am I? How am I going broke? When

1525
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 5: she's like for the last several years she's made more

1526
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 5: money than I.

1527
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: Do, Doctor Eugene Harris.

1528
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 5: It's okay, now I hold my own. Don't get me wrong,

1529
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 5: Oh not at all.

1530
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: But it's just the show pays money. You know, the

1531
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: show pays Bree money, right, you know I know that.

1532
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: By I think the perception has been I'm gonna tell

1533
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: you and again I'm till you read this. They said

1534
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: Toya is living her best, soft life, great life.

1535
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: Toya wakes up.

1536
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: They said, Toya has the kids wake her up to say, Mama,

1537
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: take me to school, because Toya is in bed until

1538
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: twelve forty five until it's time to go to the

1539
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: one o'clock tennis match. And that this poor man is

1540
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: working around the clock to live up to Toya's standard.

1541
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 5: To clear again, let me clear up with several things. One,

1542
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 5: Toya makes a good amount of money. All the stuff

1543
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 5: Toy is buying right now.

1544
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: Toy paid for. Toy also pays for the boys tuition.

1545
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 5: Toy pays for all of our vacations.

1546
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: Toy pays for a lot of stuff in our house.

1547
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: Where you spilling it.

1548
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 5: Okay, got money right, Okay, So she's not broke and

1549
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 5: she's not gonna take me to the poorhouse.

1550
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: Okay, close your.

1551
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 5: Mouth, Carlos, It's okay, I implored.

1552
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: Are you using Toya bar O? Yes, I'm a capt man.

1553
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 3: That beyond that, the next.

1554
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 5: Part is whether we did this show or not, whether

1555
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 5: Toya had a million dollars a year or not, whether

1556
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 5: she was a billionaire or not. I like working. That's

1557
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 5: what I do, so it doesn't matter how much my

1558
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 5: woman makes. This is how much I want to work anyway.

1559
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a workaholic.

1560
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: I was.

1561
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: I was texting patients before I got here. I worked

1562
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: in night.

1563
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 5: Shifts in the er, still like I'm doing. I'm a

1564
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 5: hospice director. Now I do a lot, you know, but

1565
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 5: I like doing it. That's what I.

1566
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: Do, and you're not doing it because again the perception

1567
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: when not doing it.

1568
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 5: To keep a lifestyle. I'm doing it because that's what

1569
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 5: I like to do. I liked being in the hospital working.

1570
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 5: I like seeing patients. I was, you know, liked some

1571
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 5: old story. I grew up in not that great of

1572
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 5: a neighborhood in south Southeast DC. My family moved to Maryland.

1573
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 5: My all I've ever said, well, I want to be astronaut.

1574
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 5: First I saw the challenge that blow up and I

1575
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 5: was like, no, forget that, you know. And after that,

1576
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 5: I was going to be a doctor and I wanted

1577
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 5: to do this my whole life.

1578
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: And that's it.

1579
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 5: That's the only thing I've ever said. Nobody's ever heard

1580
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 5: me say I wanted to do anything else, So why

1581
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 5: wouldn't I do it?

1582
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: Wow?

1583
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm really glad we had this because again,

1584
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: so when you see these, I mean, listen, I used

1585
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: to get mad.

1586
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 5: On Twitter and be like, yeah, be like they tell

1587
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 5: you know, get a job.

1588
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1589
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: I was like, you're watching her job, you know. I

1590
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I can't.

1591
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 5: I can't fight the whole Twitter, you know. I was like,

1592
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 5: so I stopped, you know, do that. So but I mean,

1593
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 5: I like working just what I do. And Damon, I

1594
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 5: used to work with Damon in the er until you

1595
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 5: Damon will say to this day I was the happiest

1596
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 5: person he ever saw working in the YR because Damon

1597
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 5: hated it. And I would show up and I'm like, man,

1598
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 5: why are you so sad? Like this is amazing, Like

1599
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 5: don't you like doing this?

1600
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: This is great? You know?

1601
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Doctor heavily said that you guys are renting your home

1602
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: and because she's a financial expert that has doctor university.

1603
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 2: She feels that you two are wasting your money. She said,

1604
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: y'all spend between ten and fifteen thousand dollars a month

1605
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: to rent a house when that money should be used

1606
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: in equity for a home.

1607
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I payon. She don't pay none of

1608
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 5: my bills. I really don't care what Heavinly has to say.

1609
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean, but the same thing that I mean.

1610
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 6: The guy on Netflix, you Know, How to Live Your

1611
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 6: Rich Life, he has a show out there and he

1612
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 6: talks about Renting has a lot of different values to it.

1613
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 6: Number one, you don't have to worry about the maintenance

1614
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 6: and upkeep.

1615
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 3: If something goes wrong, you call your landlord. Renting gives you.

1616
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 6: The ability to be able to move if you need to.

1617
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 6: It also gives you the flexibility as long as you're saving.

1618
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 6: It gives you the flexibility to not necessarily time to market,

1619
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 6: but to buy when you're ready to buy. And so,

1620
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 6: I know in our community it's always about don't rent,

1621
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 6: don't rent, But the truth is, I mean, you know,

1622
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 6: I'm a realtor now, and so in this market.

1623
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: A lot of people have to rent well and I'm

1624
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 3: not saying that. I'm not saying that.

1625
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 6: I know that's not your situation, but there are people

1626
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 6: out here today's time they have to rent well.

1627
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 3: But it's not a negative.

1628
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 5: To clear up for the audience, I suppose during the

1629
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 5: ten seasons, I have owned two houses that you've seen

1630
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,440
Speaker 5: me in, and I've been I've rented three houses, different scenarios.

1631
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: Why I was in all of them.

1632
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 5: When I moved to Atlanta, I was in the house

1633
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 5: in Southwest Atlanta. We got to the point where the

1634
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 5: neighborhood wasn't very safe. We were the only house on

1635
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 5: that street that did not get broken into. They had

1636
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 5: a car broken into, but the actual house did not

1637
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 5: get broken into it and Toya was like, I got

1638
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 5: these two kids, I'm moving whether you come or not.

1639
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 5: And that was like Oh. I was like, oh, we

1640
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 5: got to move. We moved somewhere that was I think

1641
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 5: a little above where we probably should have been. But

1642
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 5: the problem is was it affordable?

1643
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

1644
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 5: But the bad part was we never really talked about

1645
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 5: this on the show. I was an assistant director at

1646
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 5: my emergency department at that time. When we moved into

1647
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 5: that big, big house with the hill, I lost that year,

1648
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 5: about one hundred and fifty thousand in revenue that year.

1649
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 5: Because that my company got rid of the assistant directorship.

1650
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: So I lost a bunch of money. So I'm in

1651
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 5: the house like, oh shit, what am I going to do?

1652
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 5: You know, That's when I had my tax problems, you know,

1653
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 5: like all this stuff's got a reason for it.

1654
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: We moved into a house.

1655
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, if I had that one hundred

1656
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand, I'm Gucci, you know. But I moved

1657
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 5: into it. I'm already signed the paper, We're already in it.

1658
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Now.

1659
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 5: We got an issue and so but we were very

1660
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 5: open and honest, like, hey, let's talk about budget, let's

1661
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 5: talk about this, let's talk about that, let's talk about

1662
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 5: how we need to move. I think we were a

1663
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 5: good example of what you do when you're in a

1664
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 5: financial issue for a lot of people. Moved to a

1665
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 5: smaller place, moved to a smaller place. We got our

1666
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 5: money together. We bought a house. Now the house we

1667
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 5: bought common piece of trash, if I must say so.

1668
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 5: It looked great on the surface. Everybody, everybody story closet,

1669
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 5: the two story closet was a wonderful house. There was

1670
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 5: a lot of issues that did not we didn't want

1671
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 5: to put out on a show they didn't have time

1672
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 5: to put you know, like you've heard some stuff house

1673
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 5: And the market was such that we sold it for

1674
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 5: about eight hundred thousand more than we paid for so

1675
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 5: we made a profit. I made a profit, all right.

1676
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 5: So now I'm renting until I find what I want.

1677
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I think that's okay.

1678
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 5: And unless it Heavenly wants to pay some of my bills,

1679
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 5: she can just keep her opinion.

1680
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't really care. Her opinion is just that.

1681
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: Look, I appreciate you guys coming through because again you don't,

1682
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: unfortunately get an opportunity to express yourselves.

1683
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: And YouTube, out of all the guys on the.

1684
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 2: Show, make the biggest impact when it comes to this show.

1685
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 2: So to have the opportunity to talk to YouTube has

1686
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: been great. This has been a great season. It's been

1687
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 2: a phenomenal seasoned it is on the show.

1688
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: Do you guys think she should stay on the show.

1689
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the housewive.

1690
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 5: Now here's one little nugget, the only nugget I'll give

1691
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 5: for the reunion. And actually I don't think I don't

1692
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 5: know if a camera was up when I said this

1693
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 5: the pha I like Fadri for the show. But I

1694
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 5: did tell Phaedri I gave her some grace this year

1695
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 5: because because I gave Quad a.

1696
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 1: Lot of flat for being.

1697
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 5: On the show, because I again going back to what

1698
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 5: we what I loved about the show earlier was that

1699
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 5: we were all married ensemble. I loved that for us,

1700
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 5: and I wanted to keep that Moniker, and so I

1701
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 5: did give Quad some flat back in the day, I

1702
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 5: gave faed With some grace that I never brought it

1703
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 5: up this year. I said for next year, we gotta

1704
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 5: find you a man, and she said, okay.

1705
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1706
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 5: This was after the reunion was done. We were walking out.

1707
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 5: I was like, we gotta find you a man. If

1708
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 5: you're staying, do you think she should say I like

1709
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 5: her for the show.

1710
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 6: Okay, she's super funny. She's super funny. She is She's

1711
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 6: made for TV.

1712
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But.

1713
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 6: I kept waiting for the boyfriend. I kept waiting for

1714
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 6: the boyfriend. That's kind of how our show works. So

1715
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, when is the boyfriend coming around? When

1716
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 6: he didn't come around the first couple of weeks, okay,

1717
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 6: I get it. But then when I realized he wasn't

1718
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 6: coming around. It definitely changes the dynamic of our show.

1719
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 6: And Eugenia and I talk about this all the time.

1720
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 6: Is that from my perspective as a guy, you know,

1721
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 6: and the guys that I talked to, that I meet

1722
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 6: in the gym, I meet at Costco, the guys that

1723
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 6: watched the show with their wives and their girlfriends, they

1724
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 6: watch it because they love to see the dynamic of

1725
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 6: the couples. They love to see how you are dealing

1726
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 6: with your situation. And I think that this year with

1727
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 6: Phaedra and then also Quad, and you know in Quad

1728
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 6: is real private when it comes to her relationship, So

1729
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 6: she never brings a guy around on the show, so

1730
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 6: we don't get to meet anybody that she's dating.

1731
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,440
Speaker 3: She's dating, she is dating, She's all. I mean, it's Quad,

1732
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: So you know she's dating.

1733
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean.

1734
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: It's Quad.

1735
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 6: You know she's dating, right, I mean she is such

1736
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 6: a charismatic type that's here in Atlanta. Everybody loves her,

1737
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 6: So I know she's dating. Fadra's dating too, I'm sure,

1738
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 6: But the thing is they're not allowing that to happen

1739
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 6: on our show. And for me, as much as I

1740
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 6: love Faedra, I feel like, if she's gonna come back,

1741
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 6: we need to see who she's dating. We need to

1742
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 6: bring him into the group. We got to bring him

1743
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 6: the Cigar City Club. He got a hand out with us.

1744
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 6: We got to see what he's talking about. Same thing

1745
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 6: with Kauahid and Quad will tell you I've been telling

1746
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 6: her from the beginning, like, hey, I know you don't

1747
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 6: want to show your guy, but we got to meet him.

1748
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 6: I mean, your big brother has to meet you guys,

1749
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 6: and they you gotta let him know on.

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01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 3: The front end. They gotta come on the show and

1751
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: we got to talk.

1752
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: And what does she say to that, She'd be.

1753
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 3: Like, they're not coming, She's not doing it.

1754
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: But I appreciate you two coming because again, this has

1755
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: been a great conversation and I'm happy to report, well,

1756
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: you guys can report back to your wives that this

1757
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: was a great conversation, beautiful conversation, but.

1758
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Also much need a conversation.

1759
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: And also no, seriously, I am so happy you cleared

1760
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: the air about this perception when it comes to Toya, because.

1761
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: I literally and I know her.

1762
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I spend money too.

1763
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: It's just no, no, no, no.

1764
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: But I love the fact that we get to stop

1765
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: perpetuating this stereotype that Toya is a kept woman who

1766
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 2: spend your money and people are afraid like this poor

1767
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: man is about to go to the poorhouse to buy

1768
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: her chanel back. But I also love the fact that

1769
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 2: you are able to really speak so candidly about the

1770
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: struggles you face with doctor Simone and the Tammy situation

1771
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: and how that did affect you. Because again, a lot

1772
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 2: of men watch your show. I have a show loving

1773
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: marriage franchise.

1774
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm like you the gym.

1775
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: I don't go to Costcos, but I do go to Target,

1776
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 2: and every once in a while if a man is

1777
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 2: in Target, because they usually aren't, you know, they do

1778
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: stop me and say, like, yo, I watch your stuff

1779
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 2: with my wife because my wife put me on this show.

1780
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 2: And I like the men's perspective, and I appreciate y'all perspective,

1781
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 2: and I appreciate y'all.

1782
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: But coming on reality for the King and we got

1783
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: to do this again.

1784
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 6: Appreciate you, We really appreciate you allowing this to happen.

1785
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, anytime.

1786
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,919
Speaker 2: Marthon Medicine airs every Sunday at eight o'clock.

1787
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: No actually.

1788
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: Today time slot.

1789
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: Marthon Medicine comes on every Sunday at nine o'clock a

1790
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Central on bra BO.

1791
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,839
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1792
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:33,679
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1793
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,479
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1794
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,920
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1795
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:47,120
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1796
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,840
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1797
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01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,880
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01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:12,879
Speaker 2: It is produced by Sierra Spragley Rix An executive produced

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01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:26,800
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