Speaker 1: Okay, first, to keep it a buck. None of us
Speaker 1: was there. None of us know the whole story, so
Speaker 1: we can't. We only know what's been shown to us,
Speaker 1: and what's been shown to us to be playing out
Speaker 1: for twenty years. You know, Uh, the sex tape came
Speaker 1: out and careers were built. You know what, we weren't
Speaker 1: a part of. We weren't part of the deals. But listen,
Speaker 1: maybe y'all was getting money together, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and with an understanding of like this relationship being transaction
Speaker 1: on everything cool, and you know what I'm saying, as
Speaker 1: long as money is involved, I play along, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can only push your person
Speaker 1: so long when you come up together. At some point,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna air
Speaker 1: this out. Y'all got me out here looking like a punk,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna look like a punk for nobody.
Speaker 1: And I'm not taking no sides. I'm just saying, that's
Speaker 1: ray J's position. You're gonna stop it. Could me look
Speaker 1: like a sucker out this mug. Listen, this was now, homie. Yes,
Speaker 1: the thing ain't happen the way you said that happened.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be out here looking like a little chump.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is in the whole old Trump or
Speaker 1: it's a ray J in there somewhere. Her politics, y'all,
Speaker 1: let's get a cracking all right, y'all, welcome to her
Speaker 1: politics here. Uh this can y'all here to grin on
Speaker 1: my face? Uh? This is this is quite an interesting development.
Speaker 1: There's really no reason for most of you all to
Speaker 1: notice unless you just you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're a part of black Twitter. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know why you would know. But um so, ray J
Speaker 1: went on Instagram Live and finally, I guess I felt
Speaker 1: like it was the last draw uh with this Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian sex tape saga that had connections with and I
Speaker 1: feel so dirty just explaining all this stuff that has
Speaker 1: something to do with Kanye and the final version of
Speaker 1: the sex tape and the Kim Kardashian and the car
Speaker 1: Keeping Up with Kardashian showed last season. Uh, all this stuff. Now,
Speaker 1: one might be asking why in the hell I would
Speaker 1: be talking about the Kardashians. You this is probably the
Speaker 1: last place you would expect to hear anything about the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: But when we talk about politics, Murmi told you, it's
Speaker 1: not just gang banging. It's city living, you know, it's
Speaker 1: urban life. It's like these things are just a part
Speaker 1: of our stories. And it's not so much because of
Speaker 1: keeping up with the Kardashians. It's mostly because of ray
Speaker 1: J and Kanye. Is why this needs to be put
Speaker 1: together and the larger discussion around black fishing, which are
Speaker 1: bigger issues, not for the comparison we're gonna make, but
Speaker 1: why they stay at least in our sort of psyche.
Speaker 1: So there must be a lot of background to be
Speaker 1: explained for any of this to make sense. If you
Speaker 1: have not been following this twenty year novella, um, get ready,
Speaker 1: because I'm about to give you some of the most
Speaker 1: annoying TMZ level celebrity gossip. That's like people are dying
Speaker 1: in Yemen in Africa right now. How in the hell
Speaker 1: are we still talking about this type energy? But stay
Speaker 1: with me here because I'm telling you it's a ray
Speaker 1: J and Trump's or this is September eleven right now
Speaker 1: that I'm recording this. I don't know when this episode
Speaker 1: is gonna come out, because we got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff in the aust But I just wanted on record
Speaker 1: that it is September eleven, and I'm calling it right now,
Speaker 1: especially with this man. It's a ray j in there.
Speaker 1: You'll know what I mean. After I explained all this,
Speaker 1: all right, take a couple of deep breaths. It's about
Speaker 1: to get very gossipy out this mud. All right, where
Speaker 1: do you begin? Well, we gotta place the characters, and
Speaker 1: we gotta place them in context. Here's the thing, um.
Speaker 1: If you know a lot of times when you think
Speaker 1: of teen celebrities, child stars, I'm imagining you thinking white kids,
Speaker 1: and you have to remember that we had our black
Speaker 1: people people. We had our own you know, your Leo's,
Speaker 1: your Robert Downey Jr. As you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're Mary Kayton, n Ashley Olsen's. Of course, we were
Speaker 1: tapped into that because full house slaps. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Um, But we had our own child stars
Speaker 1: with their own problems. You know a lot of those
Speaker 1: brothers that faces that you may not know, we considered select.
Speaker 1: I cite this brother, Jason Weaver. Jason, we have been
Speaker 1: a part of our culture for a long time. My
Speaker 1: man played young Michael Jackson. I mean in the Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson movie, like we have our own celebrities. Rudy Huxtable's boyfriend,
Speaker 1: a little light skin boy, He's from Inglewood. His character's
Speaker 1: name was Stan League. His name is Merland Santana. These
Speaker 1: are these are black childhood stars. Remember, we had our
Speaker 1: own and then you get into the nineties with people
Speaker 1: like Lorenz Take. We had our own heart throbs, We
Speaker 1: had our own situation. But there was a golden era
Speaker 1: of black sitcom television and the queen of this era
Speaker 1: is none other than Brandy. Brandy had a show called Moitia.
Speaker 1: And when Brandy hit the scene in What I Want
Speaker 1: to Be Down with You Again, Inglewood Family, Black, affluent, talented,
Speaker 1: it was like, this is what y'all called again, rising
Speaker 1: stardom megastars you know uh in Black Hollywood, people like
Speaker 1: Nia Long Like you know what I'm saying, Like these
Speaker 1: were the names. Nobody was bigger than Brandy. Moysha was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest shows at least in our in
Speaker 1: our sphere ever now Mosha Brandy has a little brother.
Speaker 1: His name is ray J. And ray J also was
Speaker 1: on a sitcom. He was on a sitcom with Sinbad.
Speaker 1: This is a child actor who ended up moving on
Speaker 1: and doing hip hop and music, just like his sister.
Speaker 1: This is young black Hollywood and I and I know
Speaker 1: it sounds weird to you that I'm talking about this,
Speaker 1: but like you have to be around at this time.
Speaker 1: These people are in our world. There at the level
Speaker 1: of this is Leonardo DiCaprio. This is like, that's the
Speaker 1: level of star these people are when they were kids.
Speaker 1: Sister sister, Tian Tamara stars, the little boy that was
Speaker 1: on there. Marcus Houston, he was a part of a
Speaker 1: he was a singer. He was part of a group
Speaker 1: called Immature. Like their stars. These are I can't stress
Speaker 1: enough their stars. Now enter the advent of the internet
Speaker 1: as we know it now, this is pre social media.
Speaker 1: This is paparazzi, TMZ YouTube right, the Celebritan era, the
Speaker 1: beginning of the reality show era. Where are the people
Speaker 1: that you're now probably familiar with it, depending on how
Speaker 1: old you are. This is the Paris Hilton's Nicole Ritchie's
Speaker 1: Other world. Okay, these people again, it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy to think about their run without social media,
Speaker 1: that they were able to reach the level of stardom
Speaker 1: and really invent the influencer, the celebrity influencer. They invented it.
Speaker 1: But they all went to like they're all high school friends.
Speaker 1: They all lived this is all Hollywood, like these people
Speaker 1: all know each other. Now. Paris Hilton had a young
Speaker 1: talented assistant that it was very cute, very ambition is
Speaker 1: and actually came from a family that was a part
Speaker 1: of this ethos. Except they weren't necessarily on television per se.
Speaker 1: They were just around people that were Her little assistant
Speaker 1: also had a very famous godfather if you own uncle,
Speaker 1: who she grew up with around the whole time. And
Speaker 1: that's partially because her dad and then was best friends
Speaker 1: with this man and his wife who he allegedly murdered.
Speaker 1: That man is O. J. Simpson, and their partner or
Speaker 1: their friend is Mr Kardashian, and their daughter, who was
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton's assistant, is Kim Kardashian. This this might be stupid,
Speaker 1: maybe y'all notice, but you have to set the stage here.
Speaker 1: These people have been around celebrity this whole time. Just
Speaker 1: this is what they do. They've been around celebrity. These
Speaker 1: are these are some of the biggest names at least
Speaker 1: in this time, and she's surrounded by the biggest names
Speaker 1: in this time, ray J, Brandy, Paris Hilton, all these people.
Speaker 1: Now Brandy had moved on by this time. Brandy's a mogul.
Speaker 1: Brandy doing what she's doing. She's solidified in history. She's
Speaker 1: already done that Monica um duet with the boy's Mind.
Speaker 1: She's already solidified. It's it's over certified. She's a star,
Speaker 1: She's a legend. Ray J is nineteen twenty maybe right,
Speaker 1: a younger dude, super talented, right, and he just happened
Speaker 1: to have happened to be dating this newly kiked up.
Speaker 1: And when I say newly kiked up, I mean she,
Speaker 1: I mean the butt got done um Kim Kardashian. And
Speaker 1: this is pre internet, right, but this was his girl, like,
Speaker 1: this is his girlfriend and they uh in the vein
Speaker 1: of Pam and Tommy have a sex tape that leaks. Now,
Speaker 1: it's funny when we say Pam and Tommy, I think
Speaker 1: I talked about this before for us again, because we
Speaker 1: existed in a whole another sphere of entertainment. Pam the
Speaker 1: Tommy is referring to Martin Um the show Martin Lawrence Show.
Speaker 1: But pam and Tommy for this day. So I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson. They have a sex tape, right,
Speaker 1: and the sex tape ends up being worth a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Now according to them, they didn't want that out.
Speaker 1: It is what it is, whatever the case. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wasn't there. But this Kim and ray
Speaker 1: J sex tape, if you can imagine physical copies going viral,
Speaker 1: that's what happened. The tape went viral. It went everywhere. Right,
Speaker 1: she was on talk shows just embarrassed this this but
Speaker 1: it was always sucks because it was like, how does this?
Speaker 1: How does this go out? And a lot of times
Speaker 1: people have always said that about Kim, that her career
Speaker 1: was launched off a sex tape, And then some people
Speaker 1: say ray Jay's career was launched on sex tape. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Ray J was already making moves, he was
Speaker 1: already in a TV show. He was already in this.
Speaker 1: Now was he did he become a megastar um in
Speaker 1: the way that Kim Kay and them did, the way
Speaker 1: that the kardashianskid, was he able to finagle this into
Speaker 1: you the type of stratosphere that the Kardashians did building
Speaker 1: an empire. Now, is it fair for me to say
Speaker 1: that they built an empire off this sex tape? No,
Speaker 1: these people work very hard. There's all those things. They
Speaker 1: built a brand, they did a lot of things. They
Speaker 1: kept it in the family. They did what they had
Speaker 1: to do to become what they are, and culture hated
Speaker 1: or love it, ship worked right. But as far as
Speaker 1: the whole masses understood, unless you was in that circle.
Speaker 1: You know, Kim Kardashian was you knew that as you're
Speaker 1: talking about the with the o J trial, you knew
Speaker 1: that in relation to the o J trial, Right, this
Speaker 1: is Paris Hilton's assistant. You know what I'm saying? Like,
Speaker 1: who who knows? Right? Ray J was the name. That's
Speaker 1: the crazy part. Ray J was the star right sex
Speaker 1: tape went out. And what has always been very interesting
Speaker 1: about this is he's always kept his mouth shut about
Speaker 1: it this whole time, the whole twenty You never really
Speaker 1: hear ray J that he don't talk with me on
Speaker 1: flex about it. It just it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It got out. I'm gonna let it do what it do.
Speaker 1: But it always seems sussed everybody like how does this sex,
Speaker 1: Like how does that physical tape get out of your
Speaker 1: possession unless it's leaked, unless you're in on it, like
Speaker 1: just like breaking your house and steal it. I don't.
Speaker 1: According to Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: But who knows this? But next thing we know they got,
Speaker 1: you know, children's clothes line. Who knows. I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the Kardashians like in the in the whole
Speaker 1: reality show. But like I said in the beginning, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about some stuff I don't know. I
Speaker 1: only know what's been revealed to us. And that's what's
Speaker 1: important about when I make what I do in other politics,
Speaker 1: I only know what's been revealed to us, and I
Speaker 1: hope that's a life lesser for everybody. You only know
Speaker 1: what people show you what you find out. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to draw your own conclusions, right, make your
Speaker 1: best guests, use your antennas, and be okay with the
Speaker 1: fact that you know there's parts that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. So there are things that we
Speaker 1: don't know about these people, but we do know that
Speaker 1: playing out over the lext twenty years is the backdrop
Speaker 1: of this sex tape. Now, I don't need to spend
Speaker 1: any time explaining to you the bigness of the Kardashian name,
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. You've been a part of her saga for
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Also, like I already know you
Speaker 1: know what it is. You know the Kanye thing, you
Speaker 1: know all of it. You know, just her running through
Speaker 1: black men. You know what I'm saying for a long time, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that girl, she didn't ran through some black men.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, their whole family. They were
Speaker 1: running through black men. But uh, we don't need to
Speaker 1: talk about that right now, That's not the point I
Speaker 1: need to make. What y'all need to be informed is
Speaker 1: uh the honor and respect we need to put on
Speaker 1: Ray J's career. For some reason, let me step back
Speaker 1: for a second. For some reason, and I can't tell
Speaker 1: you why, but just generally, as as urban hip hop
Speaker 1: culture has decided, we just kind of decided he's kind
Speaker 1: of corny, and it's like, it's really not fair, you know,
Speaker 1: just like Nick Cannon, we've just kind of decided he's corny,
Speaker 1: and it's in some ways it's not fair because both
Speaker 1: of them what they've given to us, Like Nick, that's
Speaker 1: wilding out, you know what I'm saying, Like drumline. The
Speaker 1: their catalog is illustrous. It's just for some reason, And
Speaker 1: I think with the Nick Cannon thing, it has to
Speaker 1: do with his like trying to battle Eminem because of
Speaker 1: a bar Mariah Carry said, or a bar about Mariah
Speaker 1: Carry that he was married to for a while. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing that's a notch under Nick's Cannon's belt.
Speaker 1: Like again, Mariah was like she was angelic, that girl
Speaker 1: walked on water. And then Nick Cannon got on a
Speaker 1: radio show and said, one day, y'all, I'm gonna bag hurt.
Speaker 1: We all giggled. That's like you and your friends sitting
Speaker 1: around just you know, on your street corner, waiting for
Speaker 1: the street lights to come on, and you talk about
Speaker 1: which celebrity you're gonna marry, like it's not real, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like and then that man messing around and
Speaker 1: actually married her and halt twins with this girl. Like
Speaker 1: so it was like, hey, man, salute Nick Cannon. You
Speaker 1: feel me, But for some reason we just kind of
Speaker 1: decided he was corny. And I think it's the rap
Speaker 1: stuff because it's just like you're just not it's just
Speaker 1: not you man, like you're a mogul. Like what you've
Speaker 1: done for MTV Viacom again, he gave us wilding out you.
Speaker 1: You cannot take that from this man. I think in
Speaker 1: the same way we've done that with ray J. We've
Speaker 1: just kind of decided he's corny. He's I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got he's got songs number one singles that you have
Speaker 1: to get pushed in the corner for you to recognize
Speaker 1: that that was him. But one wish one for are
Speaker 1: three La la la love you? Um okay, Dan, it
Speaker 1: just par my manners like the guy has hits air quotes.
Speaker 1: But besides all that Raycon earbuds, that's ray J. He
Speaker 1: I mean, you say what you will about him, but
Speaker 1: the boy got his own headphone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Dre did it with beats, he sold Apple, Raycon, he
Speaker 1: got his own uh and the Crown jewel. That can't
Speaker 1: nobody take this from ray J. His love and hip hop,
Speaker 1: that's that was his show. Y'all can't take that from
Speaker 1: right now. I get it. There's just this feeling, and
Speaker 1: I think the feeling about like why because it's like,
Speaker 1: you did this Kim K sex tape. Now, when Kanye
Speaker 1: married her, he put out this song. That's the first
Speaker 1: time you ever hear him actually suggest about this sex tape.
Speaker 1: He was like, the song is called I hit it first,
Speaker 1: and that was and I think fools thought that was corny,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be as a cultured and I again,
Speaker 1: I think this is unfair. Now, this isn't a Ray
Speaker 1: j Stan episode. That's not even the point of this.
Speaker 1: I'm building to the point. Let me land the plane.
Speaker 1: The point is he has managed to remain relevant while
Speaker 1: at the same time never discussing in any way or
Speaker 1: anything the his connection to this Kim K sex tape,
Speaker 1: at least publicly, like he that's just he hadn't made
Speaker 1: it a part of his brand. Now granted when he
Speaker 1: did that versus recently, yeah, man, that was burnt out
Speaker 1: dog like. That was just it was just a bad look.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all look up his versus. But the
Speaker 1: point is he has managed to just kind of be like, look,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But none of us knew why.
Speaker 1: Now Kanye's backstory and there's a lot of I said,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get real TMZ. Kanye said he fell in
Speaker 1: love with Kim from the mix from the sex tape.
Speaker 1: He said he saw the sex tape, he was like,
Speaker 1: I have to marry her, Like I mean, this is
Speaker 1: just this, this stuff is on the record, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Kanye get involved. He end up
Speaker 1: getting married Mary Kim k They have a bunch of kids.
Speaker 1: All this stuff go down, and you know, just like
Speaker 1: we always say that, like you know that they're the
Speaker 1: that the Kardashians are the black man destroyer, Like where's
Speaker 1: lamar odom At? You know, Reggie Bush. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they just I don't know what to say,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But these and and in
Speaker 1: the background of artists talk is again is like black
Speaker 1: women being like Amber Rows even warning Kanye about that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, then white women, then white women gonna use you.
Speaker 1: And when they're done with you, you're gonna see what
Speaker 1: it is. There's been this backstory in the community of
Speaker 1: like y'all need to stop messing with them. Kardashians. They
Speaker 1: put on that's black fishing, That's what I mean by that.
Speaker 1: They put on black culture. They pretend to be one
Speaker 1: of us, they take our men, destroy our men, and
Speaker 1: then y'all out here looking like you ain't know what
Speaker 1: was going on. So from a black woman perspective, um,
Speaker 1: this is gross generalities. Nobody's victims or these boys are
Speaker 1: not victims. You came all of a sudden claim blackness
Speaker 1: when you knew what you were signing up for. You
Speaker 1: knew them girls. This is what them girls do, like,
Speaker 1: don't don't, don't come crawling us. You knew what they
Speaker 1: was about. That's again, I'm just trying to give context
Speaker 1: to the story, right, So you so you fast forward
Speaker 1: through fifty e leven seasons of Kanye's episodes, manic episodes,
Speaker 1: his career, him getting with him, you know, air quotes,
Speaker 1: making an honest woman out of her. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say about that, whatever, right, fifty eleven seasons
Speaker 1: of keeping up with the Kardashians, and then this episode
Speaker 1: about somehow or another Kanye going to get the tape
Speaker 1: and him bringing it back. Because remember again, y'all know
Speaker 1: all this stuff Kanye and him divorced and whatever whatever
Speaker 1: his situation is. He claiming, you know, prejudice against black
Speaker 1: men and fathers and all this good stuff. Whatever, I don't.
Speaker 1: I only know what's been shown to me. Right, um,
Speaker 1: But in this episode he goes and gets the tape back. Right,
Speaker 1: So he gets the tape back and Kim asked him
Speaker 1: how what did you have to pay? Like, how did
Speaker 1: you get it? And he was like, We're done being extorted.
Speaker 1: I will not be extorted. So she was all like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe it's over, Like it's
Speaker 1: finally over, Like this tape has been a thorn in
Speaker 1: her existence, her whole life, or her whole career, and
Speaker 1: now Kanye is this hero. And then finally ray J
Speaker 1: spoke up. And ray J spoke up and was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I've kept my mouth shut this whole time. You know
Speaker 1: this sex tape was your mama's idea talking about Kim's mama, Chris,
Speaker 1: you know that was her idea. You know we signed
Speaker 1: paperwork both together, full on a thousand dollars each to
Speaker 1: get this tape out. You know we made money off this,
Speaker 1: and you know I was paid to shut up, so
Speaker 1: don't be going on your show. So and and now
Speaker 1: everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, ray J you know. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: there are gonna be dissenting voices that are like, oh,
Speaker 1: twenty years later, Come on, ray J, you're just trying
Speaker 1: to stay relevant. You just mad because they launched a
Speaker 1: career and you salty about it, right, and they're making
Speaker 1: you look bad and y'all. You know, you just you
Speaker 1: just mad because you couldn't turn that sex tape into
Speaker 1: into a multibillion dollar industry like they could. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say ray J didn't do too bad for himself,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's the case. Again, they ain't,
Speaker 1: no ray J stand I don't think he had victim
Speaker 1: per se based on what I'm looking at, right, But
Speaker 1: he spoke up and then finally September, I had you
Speaker 1: witnessing culture history. He goes live on Instagram. I can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm talking about all this, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to us somewhere. He finally goes live on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: he goes live on Instagram and shows the texts puts
Speaker 1: on the screen, the d M conversations between him and
Speaker 1: k Him and Kim basically like I can't listen. I've
Speaker 1: kept my mouth shut this whole time because we was
Speaker 1: both giving money, but you got your Now you are
Speaker 1: openly clearly lying and you're making it look like He
Speaker 1: was like, I got kids. You making it look like
Speaker 1: that I'm some type of way that i'm not. And
Speaker 1: she's like, I have kids too. Let's just stick to
Speaker 1: the story and it'll blow over. Trust me, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, funk the story. No, you not tell
Speaker 1: these people the truth. We both signed legal documents. This
Speaker 1: was your mama's idea. It was gonna launch our careers.
Speaker 1: This is what we agreed on. But you act like
Speaker 1: you're some sort of victim out this mug. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play me as Boom the fool, Like this
Speaker 1: isn't fair. And then she's like, okay, cool, just you know,
Speaker 1: wait for the episode. I'm sure you'll be happy. He
Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, I'll wait for the episode
Speaker 1: to come out because they're having this conversation before this,
Speaker 1: keeping up a card Dashes episode come on. The episode
Speaker 1: comes on and Kanye looks makes it look like he
Speaker 1: came in there and punk ray J. Ray J was
Speaker 1: like no on his life, like no, wait, wait, wait, no,
Speaker 1: we had a great discussion. Kanye came to my house.
Speaker 1: We we we shared notes, we talked, we bonded. He said,
Speaker 1: it's other names involved that I'm not gonna name. He
Speaker 1: was like, we ended this well. We thought we was
Speaker 1: doing something together. Everything was cool, even about how this
Speaker 1: Kardashian family. You know what I'm saying, these fools this,
Speaker 1: this is toxic Colde, you know what I'm saying. Like, So,
Speaker 1: according to ray J, he was like, listen, no, look,
Speaker 1: I'll show you the messages. And he actually did. That's
Speaker 1: something you don't see often. He actually showed the conversations
Speaker 1: of like, no, this is what it was. We did this,
Speaker 1: you did this, you said this, and Kim being like,
Speaker 1: I know that's true, but just like, don't tell that story.
Speaker 1: And he's like, what do you mean, don't tell that story?
Speaker 1: You got me out here looking crazy. So, according to
Speaker 1: Raye that he's like, listen, man, you're gonna stop making
Speaker 1: me look like the idiot in this story. I've kept
Speaker 1: quiet for twenty years, but you keep bothering out of
Speaker 1: control and never taking no responsibility for none of this.
Speaker 1: And the way for that to happen is you gotta
Speaker 1: keep throwing me under. He's like, I'm through with this man.
Speaker 1: He even says on the text message, I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to you in like fifteen years. We haven't seen each other,
Speaker 1: we haven't talked and I don't know how long, Like
Speaker 1: I have no contact with you. Why would you? Why
Speaker 1: are you throwing me under like this? This is not fair,
Speaker 1: like tell the truth, and she's telling him, yo, let's
Speaker 1: just keep this between We'll figure it out. But like
Speaker 1: we both got children, just don't need to play out
Speaker 1: in the public. And he's like, it already has fool
Speaker 1: It already has played out in the public. So ray
Speaker 1: J finally was like, okay, I'm airing the paper. Now,
Speaker 1: what does this have to do with politics? After the breakles.
Speaker 1: So here's my thing. I don't know these men, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know these women. I don't know nobody involved
Speaker 1: in this personally. But we have like maybe one or
Speaker 1: two degrees of separation off though I did meet ray
Speaker 1: Jack and we was in middle school, but that's a
Speaker 1: whole other story. Um, it's using my antennas based on
Speaker 1: what I've seen, and again I don't know everything. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine a scenario where either one of these men,
Speaker 1: especially black men, didn't know what they were signing up
Speaker 1: for You know, when people show you who they are,
Speaker 1: you should believe them. The Kardashians have had hustle in
Speaker 1: them for a while, and I think, did it ain't
Speaker 1: no way you didn't know that. If they feel an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a leg up, they was gonna take it.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, I can also understand sometimes we
Speaker 1: think with our penises and our wallets, and I can
Speaker 1: I have made many of bad decisions based on the
Speaker 1: size and roundness of the hind parts. I can't take
Speaker 1: that from them. Brothers, it is what it is. And ladies,
Speaker 1: I mean straight gay by non binary, we have often
Speaker 1: made decisions with our genitals. Let's not let's not lie
Speaker 1: to ourselves, okay. So I'm adding that factor. And then
Speaker 1: also sometimes you may think your kung food is just
Speaker 1: as good as there. I also think, knowing how Kanye
Speaker 1: was raised and knowing where ray J is from, there's
Speaker 1: there are rules of engagement, and I think in some
Speaker 1: ways what ray J has showed is he plays by
Speaker 1: the code. There there's a code, you know, and there's
Speaker 1: some lines you just don't cross until you showed me
Speaker 1: that We're we're existing on two different codes here. Oh
Speaker 1: this is it's this is not what I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I thought we had an agreement. And when you realize
Speaker 1: the people you you running with either function off a
Speaker 1: different code or code at all, or their code is
Speaker 1: like we get ours regardless, at some point you like,
Speaker 1: you know what all bets is off. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: keep playing me like, You're not gonna marking me out
Speaker 1: like this. And of course there's a whole other perspective here.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't want this to sound
Speaker 1: like I'm creating a villain out of this family. Everyone's
Speaker 1: got a different perspective, you know what I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: family might be like, yo, when worst comes to worst,
Speaker 1: my family come first. You know. We was taking care
Speaker 1: of each other and like you know, and if you're
Speaker 1: a part of our family, will try to take care
Speaker 1: of you. But if it's like if I feel like
Speaker 1: this this thing ain't working, like I'm sorry, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: choose us And nothing wrong with that. That's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That's just what it is.
Speaker 1: If you're the one running point, if you're the one
Speaker 1: trying to protect an empire, you you the more people
Speaker 1: you have to keep happy, the more difficult it becomes.
Speaker 1: And most of the time, if money don't do it,
Speaker 1: you have to do it by fear. You have to
Speaker 1: do it by destruction. You know, the ability to destroy
Speaker 1: someone's career. Now, having said that, if you're the other
Speaker 1: side of this, let's say the Kardashian You're like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what you don't understand. We had an arrangement
Speaker 1: you all, this was with consent. And if you were
Speaker 1: just run to play, like I'm telling you to run
Speaker 1: to play, I don't understand what the problem is. Just
Speaker 1: run to play. I mean, have we not shown if
Speaker 1: you then? Have we not shown that that that nothing
Speaker 1: sticks to us? If you just run to play, will
Speaker 1: be fine. Just play along, don't trip, and the checks
Speaker 1: will keep coming. I don't understand what you I don't
Speaker 1: understand what your deal is if you don't run the play, though,
Speaker 1: we don't have to burn you. What does I have
Speaker 1: to do with politics? I think it has everything to
Speaker 1: do with politics. I think this is this is mar Lago,
Speaker 1: this whole situation. I don't know how many people listen listen,
Speaker 1: do we really know what went on behind closed doors
Speaker 1: with Trump and his and his squad. No, we don't.
Speaker 1: We know the January January six hearings, some people decided like, nahamie,
Speaker 1: I'm not going down with you. Some people this whole
Speaker 1: time have kept their mouth shut, you know, And now
Speaker 1: now you've got a federal investigation going on, they're sniffing.
Speaker 1: They sniffing hard. I am utterly convinced. And I can't
Speaker 1: tell you who it is or when it's gonna come.
Speaker 1: It's a ray J in there. What do I mean
Speaker 1: by it's a ray J in there? Because again, ray
Speaker 1: J got his own empire. Oh it may not be
Speaker 1: big as as theirs, but he all right, listen, everybody
Speaker 1: ain't Trump, but everybody around him that that on me.
Speaker 1: They nothing without him. Oh they may have signed up,
Speaker 1: they may have known what they were signing up for.
Speaker 1: But when you start showing me that like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep You're gonna keep stalling me out, You're gonna okay,
Speaker 1: somehow another it's gonna fall on me. Nah homie, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show the text messages. You can't keep making
Speaker 1: me look like you know what I'm saying. Somebody gonna
Speaker 1: make this calculation that like this ship ain't worth it dog.
Speaker 1: It's a ray J in there somewhere. I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is or where they're going, but I could
Speaker 1: guarantee you with something as messy as this situation. Oh lord, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: Ray J was on there doing this. I saw the
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of. I was like, look, that's look.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. It's Trump got Trump got
Speaker 1: a couple of them his hoard. He got somebody in
Speaker 1: there that's been cool this whole time. That's been like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: keep playing with me. All right, I'll take it because
Speaker 1: everything's fine. I know the code, I know the rules.
Speaker 1: But at some point I'm gonna call you on it
Speaker 1: because it's gonna come with time when you're gonna need
Speaker 1: to start telling the truth. And you don't come for
Speaker 1: me because I've been cool this whole time. Even when
Speaker 1: I had a chance, I did the right thing, according
Speaker 1: to again, according to ray J, ray J, like I
Speaker 1: did the right thing. I gave you the taste. Let's
Speaker 1: be over with it. And that's how you're gonna just
Speaker 1: call You're gonna play me like this in front of
Speaker 1: the ship, in front of everybody. Nah, fam, it's the
Speaker 1: last that's the last right thing I'm doing. Also, look,
Speaker 1: I saw in the news today it's eighteen people in
Speaker 1: the Russian government that are calling for Vladimir Putin's resigning.
Speaker 1: They're calling for his resignation. We told y'all way back
Speaker 1: during the crimea River stuff that like he's gonna mess
Speaker 1: with the wrong people, somebody's gonna get mad at him.
Speaker 1: It's it's people in there that's gonna finally be like,
Speaker 1: all right, luck man, I don't had enough. You won't
Speaker 1: take too many ails, and you won't take me down
Speaker 1: with you. Somebody. I'm telling you there's always somebody now
Speaker 1: in people, I mean now now Vladimir and them. I
Speaker 1: mean it might be on something like no, you better
Speaker 1: around and find out. You better learn how to shut
Speaker 1: your mouth up, because like we were poisoned foods. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It might be a little
Speaker 1: different like messing around him. But I'm just saying sometimes
Speaker 1: people get tired. I'm telling you that. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's the position. I'm telling you somebody in that order
Speaker 1: it's a ray j in there somewhere. So that's the
Speaker 1: that's the policy. You you've got too many people, you
Speaker 1: need to keep happy. Somebody not happy in that mud. Now,
Speaker 1: as far as the bigger picture as a culture like uh, again,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different takes you can take on
Speaker 1: This first take is who cares? Who cares I'm talking
Speaker 1: about as far as like the Kim ray J thing,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's a a solid arguments for why do
Speaker 1: we care? And anyway say before why do we care?
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm always looking for bigger lessons, greater metaphors.
Speaker 1: I don't like to be involved in stuff because that's again,
Speaker 1: that's how I survived it, That's how I survived my childhood,
Speaker 1: the way I was raised, and I just be staying
Speaker 1: out of stuff. Don't tell me the cheese man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not am nobody's made d
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, don't don't don't dumb nobody's cheese.
Speaker 1: Most so like, don't tell me nothing. I don't need
Speaker 1: to know. And I think that there's a lesson about
Speaker 1: really knowing what you're signing up for. I I do
Speaker 1: have a hard time, as my personal opinion with this
Speaker 1: uh making this a black issue. At the same time,
Speaker 1: it kind of is in regards to Kanye and ray
Speaker 1: j Um. But like I said, to cite black women,
Speaker 1: there is a reality that like, yeah, this could have
Speaker 1: been avoided and it's not could have been avoided because
Speaker 1: they white women. That's not fair. That's not what I'm
Speaker 1: saying at all. It could have been avoided in the
Speaker 1: sense that they are somebody shows you how they move
Speaker 1: you if you better make sure you really got what
Speaker 1: it takes to go into that world wind. I don't
Speaker 1: care how nice the pretty round brown is. If you
Speaker 1: can't batting down the hatches, don't go. And nobody's Tornado.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is Mr Trump, it's a ray j
Speaker 1: in there somewhere who politics. Yeah, this is here. Thing
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