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Speaker 1: And the way for that to happen is you gotta

420
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: keep throwing me under. He's like, I'm through with this man.

421
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: He even says on the text message, I haven't talked

422
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: to you in like fifteen years. We haven't seen each other,

423
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: we haven't talked and I don't know how long, Like

424
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Speaker 1: I have no contact with you. Why would you? Why

425
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: are you throwing me under like this? This is not fair,

426
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: like tell the truth, and she's telling him, yo, let's

427
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: just keep this between We'll figure it out. But like

428
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: we both got children, just don't need to play out

429
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: in the public. And he's like, it already has fool

430
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: It already has played out in the public. So ray

431
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: J finally was like, okay, I'm airing the paper. Now,

432
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: what does this have to do with politics? After the breakles.

433
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: So here's my thing. I don't know these men, right,

434
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know these women. I don't know nobody involved

435
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: in this personally. But we have like maybe one or

436
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: two degrees of separation off though I did meet ray

437
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Jack and we was in middle school, but that's a

438
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: whole other story. Um, it's using my antennas based on

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Speaker 1: what I've seen, and again I don't know everything. I

440
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: can't imagine a scenario where either one of these men,

441
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: especially black men, didn't know what they were signing up

442
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: for You know, when people show you who they are,

443
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: you should believe them. The Kardashians have had hustle in

444
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: them for a while, and I think, did it ain't

445
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: no way you didn't know that. If they feel an

446
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Speaker 1: opportunity to get a leg up, they was gonna take it.

447
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Now that being said, I can also understand sometimes we

448
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Speaker 1: think with our penises and our wallets, and I can

449
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: I have made many of bad decisions based on the

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Speaker 1: size and roundness of the hind parts. I can't take

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Speaker 1: that from them. Brothers, it is what it is. And ladies,

452
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Speaker 1: I mean straight gay by non binary, we have often

453
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: made decisions with our genitals. Let's not let's not lie

454
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Speaker 1: to ourselves, okay. So I'm adding that factor. And then

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Speaker 1: also sometimes you may think your kung food is just

456
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: as good as there. I also think, knowing how Kanye

457
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: was raised and knowing where ray J is from, there's

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00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: there are rules of engagement, and I think in some

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00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: ways what ray J has showed is he plays by

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Speaker 1: the code. There there's a code, you know, and there's

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00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: some lines you just don't cross until you showed me

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00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: that We're we're existing on two different codes here. Oh

463
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Speaker 1: this is it's this is not what I thought it was.

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00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I thought we had an agreement. And when you realize

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00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: the people you you running with either function off a

466
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Speaker 1: different code or code at all, or their code is

467
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: like we get ours regardless, at some point you like,

468
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: you know what all bets is off. You're not gonna

469
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Speaker 1: keep playing me like, You're not gonna marking me out

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Speaker 1: like this. And of course there's a whole other perspective here.

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00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't want this to sound

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Speaker 1: like I'm creating a villain out of this family. Everyone's

473
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: got a different perspective, you know what I'm saying. This

474
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Speaker 1: family might be like, yo, when worst comes to worst,

475
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Speaker 1: my family come first. You know. We was taking care

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Speaker 1: of each other and like you know, and if you're

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Speaker 1: a part of our family, will try to take care

478
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Speaker 1: of you. But if it's like if I feel like

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00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: this this thing ain't working, like I'm sorry, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: choose us And nothing wrong with that. That's the thing,

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That's just what it is.

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Speaker 1: If you're the one running point, if you're the one

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Speaker 1: trying to protect an empire, you you the more people

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Speaker 1: you have to keep happy, the more difficult it becomes.

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00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: And most of the time, if money don't do it,

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00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: you have to do it by fear. You have to

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Speaker 1: do it by destruction. You know, the ability to destroy

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Speaker 1: someone's career. Now, having said that, if you're the other

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Speaker 1: side of this, let's say the Kardashian You're like, I

490
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Speaker 1: don't understand what you don't understand. We had an arrangement

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Speaker 1: you all, this was with consent. And if you were

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Speaker 1: just run to play, like I'm telling you to run

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Speaker 1: to play, I don't understand what the problem is. Just

494
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: run to play. I mean, have we not shown if

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Speaker 1: you then? Have we not shown that that that nothing

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Speaker 1: sticks to us? If you just run to play, will

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00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: be fine. Just play along, don't trip, and the checks

498
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: will keep coming. I don't understand what you I don't

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00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: understand what your deal is if you don't run the play, though,

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00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: we don't have to burn you. What does I have

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00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: to do with politics? I think it has everything to

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00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: do with politics. I think this is this is mar Lago,

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00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: this whole situation. I don't know how many people listen listen,

504
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: do we really know what went on behind closed doors

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00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: with Trump and his and his squad. No, we don't.

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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: We know the January January six hearings, some people decided like, nahamie,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going down with you. Some people this whole

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Speaker 1: time have kept their mouth shut, you know, And now

509
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: now you've got a federal investigation going on, they're sniffing.

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00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: They sniffing hard. I am utterly convinced. And I can't

511
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Speaker 1: tell you who it is or when it's gonna come.

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00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: It's a ray J in there. What do I mean

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Speaker 1: by it's a ray J in there? Because again, ray

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Speaker 1: J got his own empire. Oh it may not be

515
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: big as as theirs, but he all right, listen, everybody

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00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: ain't Trump, but everybody around him that that on me.

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00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: They nothing without him. Oh they may have signed up,

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Speaker 1: they may have known what they were signing up for.

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00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: But when you start showing me that like, oh, you're

520
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna keep You're gonna keep stalling me out, You're gonna okay,

521
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: somehow another it's gonna fall on me. Nah homie, Hey,

522
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show the text messages. You can't keep making

523
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: me look like you know what I'm saying. Somebody gonna

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00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: make this calculation that like this ship ain't worth it dog.

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00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: It's a ray J in there somewhere. I don't know

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00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: who it is or where they're going, but I could

527
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: guarantee you with something as messy as this situation. Oh lord, listen, listen.

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00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: Ray J was on there doing this. I saw the

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00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of. I was like, look, that's look.

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00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. It's Trump got Trump got

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00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: a couple of them his hoard. He got somebody in

532
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: there that's been cool this whole time. That's been like, okay, okay,

533
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: keep playing with me. All right, I'll take it because

534
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: everything's fine. I know the code, I know the rules.

535
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: But at some point I'm gonna call you on it

536
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: because it's gonna come with time when you're gonna need

537
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: to start telling the truth. And you don't come for

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00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: me because I've been cool this whole time. Even when

539
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I had a chance, I did the right thing, according

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00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: to again, according to ray J, ray J, like I

541
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: did the right thing. I gave you the taste. Let's

542
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: be over with it. And that's how you're gonna just

543
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: call You're gonna play me like this in front of

544
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the ship, in front of everybody. Nah, fam, it's the

545
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: last that's the last right thing I'm doing. Also, look,

546
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Speaker 1: I saw in the news today it's eighteen people in

547
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: the Russian government that are calling for Vladimir Putin's resigning.

548
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: They're calling for his resignation. We told y'all way back

549
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: during the crimea River stuff that like he's gonna mess

550
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: with the wrong people, somebody's gonna get mad at him.

551
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: It's it's people in there that's gonna finally be like,

552
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: all right, luck man, I don't had enough. You won't

553
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: take too many ails, and you won't take me down

554
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: with you. Somebody. I'm telling you there's always somebody now

555
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: in people, I mean now now Vladimir and them. I

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00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: mean it might be on something like no, you better

557
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: around and find out. You better learn how to shut

558
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: your mouth up, because like we were poisoned foods. I mean,

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00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It might be a little

560
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: different like messing around him. But I'm just saying sometimes

561
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: people get tired. I'm telling you that. I'm just saying

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00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: that's the position. I'm telling you somebody in that order

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00:32:52,480 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: it's a ray j in there somewhere. So that's the

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00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: that's the policy. You you've got too many people, you

565
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: need to keep happy. Somebody not happy in that mud. Now,

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00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: as far as the bigger picture as a culture like uh, again,

567
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different takes you can take on

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00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: This first take is who cares? Who cares I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about as far as like the Kim ray J thing,

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Speaker 1: there's there's there's a a solid arguments for why do

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Speaker 1: we care? And anyway say before why do we care?

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Speaker 1: But for me, I'm always looking for bigger lessons, greater metaphors.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to be involved in stuff because that's again,

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Speaker 1: that's how I survived it, That's how I survived my childhood,

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Speaker 1: the way I was raised, and I just be staying

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Speaker 1: out of stuff. Don't tell me the cheese man. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not am nobody's made d

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, don't don't don't dumb nobody's cheese.

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Speaker 1: Most so like, don't tell me nothing. I don't need

580
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: to know. And I think that there's a lesson about

581
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: really knowing what you're signing up for. I I do

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Speaker 1: have a hard time, as my personal opinion with this

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00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: uh making this a black issue. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: it kind of is in regards to Kanye and ray

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Speaker 1: j Um. But like I said, to cite black women,

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00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: there is a reality that like, yeah, this could have

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Speaker 1: been avoided and it's not could have been avoided because

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: they white women. That's not fair. That's not what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying at all. It could have been avoided in the

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Speaker 1: sense that they are somebody shows you how they move

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Speaker 1: you if you better make sure you really got what

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Speaker 1: it takes to go into that world wind. I don't

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Speaker 1: care how nice the pretty round brown is. If you

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Speaker 1: can't batting down the hatches, don't go. And nobody's Tornado.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is Mr Trump, it's a ray j

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Speaker 1: in there somewhere who politics. Yeah, this is here. Thing

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