WEBVTT - Ep. 29: Bear Grease [Render] - Early Christmas Lights, Guarding the Gate, and Why We Love George 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah, my name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:43.760 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. Man, 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.239 we are at an absolute skeleton crew on the bear 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.080 Grease podcast. You say, some say skeleton, some say the 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.040 dream team. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying dream team, 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.000 dream team. It's hard. Hard to work with a diva, 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.880 it really is. Yeah, We'll just keep churning through people. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:09.120 I don't know, conversation, maybe coincidence. Man, I you wouldn't 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:17.039 believe who I invited today that they wouldn't come through names. No, 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.560 just peep person after person or after per person. Maybe 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.880 I should get somebody else to do that inviting. Give 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:29.360 me the list next time. Maybe. No. We so typically 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.800 on the Burglary Stringer we have six people today we 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.039 have five. But it really is the dream I can 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.120 stretch my legs out today at least. Yeah, a little 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.839 bit sketchy to say this is a skeleton crew. Well, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.119 I mean, for for for typically where we have six 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:51.080 people wedged into one headset. That's kind of nice. Yeah, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:02:02.160 ears interesting beginning. Dan had to totally fix one of 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.520 our chairs. He was screwing together a chair. But hey, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.680 welcome to the burgery surrender. This is the this is 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:14.040 the Thanksgiving addition of the burger surrender. Will happy? Thanks 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.600 Glad you didn't skip over and go straight to Christmas. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.160 That's the way it's going to my house, and I'm 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.840 not happy about it. Really, Hey man, my some of 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.760 our the patrons of our town that we live in, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.359 like ten days before Thanksgiving, they've got Christmas lights up. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.639 Every time a Christmas decoration goes up before Thanksgiving, they 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.839 throw a pilgrim off the shield every time. I hope 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:41.000 you're happy community we live in, Yes, exactly, man. Every 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.360 time I drive past it, I lecture my kids on 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.840 why they need to dial it back a notch just 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.360 to not we got to instill the right values and 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.120 claim when people are wrong. Listen. I think that I 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.320 think that we do need to have a community conversation 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.519 about holiday did core in general, there is a big 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.640 push and I don't know if this is appropriate to 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.600 talk about on the Beggars podcast. But there's a big 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:10.160 push for morbidity when it comes to it's like they 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.000 wake up and they see their neighbors. I won't I 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.880 won't speak of what they put in their yard. It's 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.600 so gross and gruesome for Halloween. And then the other 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.760 neighbors seem to think, oh, we should do that too, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:28.480 and there's like a domino effect. It's pretty well, there 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.880 is a strong correlation and it goes back ancient ancient 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:39.880 human social the way that we interact with each other socially. Okay, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.680 you go to any any any little town in the 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:47.040 world in the United States, and you drove through the world, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.680 and if there's one family that does something really well, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.920 you'll usually find a cluster of families, and if you 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.160 have history in that community, you'll you'll be like, hey, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.640 they used to be the only one that did that. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.280 What we're talking about is Halloween decor. Okay, there are 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:10.119 people that are real comfortable like putting like skeletons, burning witches, headless, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.600 headless people in their front yard Halloween for a month. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.279 I have to drive by that just to go get groceries, 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.040 Like I can't get milk without seeing something that is 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.719 supposed to incite in us like, oh man, that's where 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.840 we'll stop and we take our kids to go knock 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:30.200 on the door. Thank you. Maybe maybe it's like that's 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.200 what they're trying to do, is keep people from coming 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.239 to their house. Maybe they don't even buy candle. People 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.360 are so desensitized to it that you just see Halloween 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.560 decor and you're like, oh god, these people are festive. No, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:48.479 that's like wildly inappropriate. Yeah, it's something else. So anyway, 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.800 our neighbors put up from Christmas slides down here like 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.160 way before Thanksgiving, and I appreciate the passion of it. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.680 We need a community conversation, But is three a group 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.200 of people that you guys are Okay, that's what I 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.080 want to just I feel like the open mindedness of 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.760 the Newcomb household is off the charts. I don't think 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.960 it's very open. We have some more community conversations, which 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.200 I feel like would be rather one way from Clay 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.560 and Misty to all the conversation is do what I 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.239 say exactly, You got to have some got to have something. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.920 Let me let me let me introduce my our guests today. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.000 Dr Daniel Roupe to my left, good to see dr 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:38.000 D what all good bear grease render participants are supposed 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.240 to do. Bring the deer that they killed, the racks 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:48.800 in nice skulls clean. Hey, my wife, I gotta give 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.120 her most of the credits. Are you serious about the 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.560 dreamal tools all the cavity out. Yeah, you'll never see 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.120 a cleaner siinus cavity. And let's kaya gets ahold of up. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.720 Oh she even Jeremy top of it. Great, So we 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:07.119 got anice eight point bucks in here, Josh, spellmakerdge didn't 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.880 kill a deer, got a decent trout kill a deer. Ye, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.120 you're sporting a nice I like that Arkansas flag had 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.320 like the trout on it. Like that. I do like that. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.560 So Josh Brent, Josh went with me to folsome New 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.359 Mexico when we recorded this George mcjunkin podcast, basically a 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:29.240 subject matter expert. Now, yeah, and still didn't didn't wasn't 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:34.200 qualified enough to make it to the actual podcast. Yeah, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.240 why couldn't you ask me a question? You could have? 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.880 I mean, he was right there with you, and I 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:44.680 was okay, there were more parts. Wasn't even going to 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.760 bring this up. But now I've been put in the 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:54.799 corner during during the middle of the interview with Kyle 0:06:54.839 --> 0:07:04.480 Bell and Matt Dowdry and Whorty Dougherty Doherty Doherty. Yeah, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.200 I was about I was about there is another way. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.800 There's lots of words I just can't say. Okay, do 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.000 you guys know what the other word was from the pronation, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.960 because he definitely it's posthumous. I will say, it's gonna 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 be hard to have community conversations if there are a 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:26.440 lot of words that you can't say. Okay. Sorry, throwing 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.440 it out to maybeing backed in a corner about Josh 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.080 not being on the podcast. His voice actually was on 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.840 the podcast and I had to yell at him across 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:42.520 the museum, Hey, Josh, quiet, back there. He is back 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.480 there talking to this other guy. So anyway you so 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.040 you kind of were on the podcast. No, Josh broke 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.760 with me out there. It was great having to travel, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.640 it was we had a great time. It was like whirlwind. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.960 We were out there for a very short amount of time. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.840 Drove there. I got there late at night, like after 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.280 eleven or maybe even midnight, I can't remember. And then 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.160 we were gone the next day by like two o'clock 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.800 and got all that stuff for the podcast. So it 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.280 was great. So Josh Billmaker, nice hat mustache is always, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.760 thank you very much. Just speaking of people that I 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.640 tried to get on this podcast, I invited Josh's wife, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.160 who was a dear friend of ours as well. Unfortunately 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.320 she's way more important than me and couldn't make it. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:31.360 She is pretty important to Josh's left. Brent Reeves, Brent 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.600 great to see you, Greetings, Hey, I want I'd like 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.240 to call out Brent for Brent drives three hours one 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.480 way to come to this podcast. He's basically three hours 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:47.720 the other way going back. Now, just Brent's Brent, Brent's 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.120 thank you. Yeah, yeah, that's a nice pair of overall, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.559 as you got on there, they're all nice to Brent's left. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.200 How many paw many? Yeah? I think it's a good question. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.720 One is six six one for every almost every day 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:07.280 of the week, like the Sabbath. He's naked. Are we 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:14.120 all edit that out? Kids? Close your ears, neighbors close. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.920 I just went to p. Twelve. That's brit on The 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:32.199 thank you was wrapped in Christmas lies. I'll wear that 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:37.319 bear skiing rug to Prince left, my lovely wife and 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.719 Mr Newcom so great to be a part of all 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:44.280 these conversations were being here. Thanks for so much. Dad 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.640 would have been here, but he couldn't be here. That's all. Okay, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.000 So there's a couple of housekeeping items I have to 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:57.600 I have to go through. Number one is meat Eater. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.160 The meat eater dot com right now has a massive 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.400 Black Friday sale. So if you if you ever wanted 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.800 anything for meat eat, now is the time to do it. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.640 They've got um so all their all their T shirts 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.280 and stuff are like the big percentage off. Let's see, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:19.480 let's just go right through this off logo wearificant hundred 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:24.120 dollars off Vortex, diamondback, three by five, ten by fifty rifles, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.280 scope hundred dollars off tex A lot of numbers. Yeah, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.880 and then, uh, this is what I would be most 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.600 interested in if you were buying me a gift wink 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:41.400 a knife if you're buying him a Halloween gift bundles Okay, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.079 Dan lost his bench made, so you get the survival 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:51.000 guide and knife for a hundred and sixty five dollars. Uh. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.400 Butchering Big Game bundle is the meat Crafter knife which 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.160 Josh has. Knife is really feels super nice in the hand. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:02.280 I wish you'd put it up. Everybody's out on my 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:07.280 blood zone. So they have a lot of bundles, so 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.319 you can check out you can check out the meat 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.160 Eator Black Friday sale. I will also say that soon 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.480 and very soon, there's gonna be a whole suite of 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:22.920 Burgarase merchandise. Hats a bunch of stuff. So that's it's 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.880 not available just yet, but it will be able. I'd 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.600 like to see a T shirt with a mash up 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:34.760 of me and Brent's face. That'd be good. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:41.400 that one. Okay, Um, I got a I had a 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.920 little bit of We haven't gone through much feedback um 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.600 from you know, like iTunes reviews recently, and I've kind 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.439 of made a habit not to do that. But I 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.440 did have one guy that gave us a five star 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.439 review but said he said, he said Clay four shadows 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:04.320 way too much, and he said it's a great podcast. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.360 I love it, Clay four Shadows way too much. And 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.280 when he said it, I knew exactly what he meant 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.400 and and and I thought, man, this guy must just 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:18.079 really love surprises. He must like he doesn't want me 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.880 to tell what I'm about to tell in a cryptic statement. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.439 He just wants a surprise, Like he wouldn't want his 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.959 wife to be like, honey, you're not gonna believe what 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.040 we're gonna have for dinner. He would rather her just 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.720 go for dinner. It's your favorite and he's like, bam, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.640 thank you. So he's talking about the falsome deal, right, Oh, 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:49.400 this was this was This was a while back. This 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.400 part two. When we find out what we're talking about, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.360 it's kind of funny. It is kind of because I 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.679 said the same thing to Clay that I felt. So 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.040 this is a while back, not not since the forth. Okay, well, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.120 no offense, but he might be right. Took a little 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.280 bit of time. I just talking about the full sime. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.320 I'm just talking about like life with Clay. There might 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.760 be Clay loves he loves suspense, he loves build up, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.400 he loves drama. And when you say you'll never guess 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.200 what happened today, I don't know. My mind always goes 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.480 to worst case scenarios, like do our kids all have 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.880 their arms? We all are? We all still intacted? Anyway? Well, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.920 I thought it would be funny if I just started um, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.120 if every single sentence in the rest of my life, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.400 like any time I just dealt with people in like 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.480 normal life foreshadowed. No, No, Like, we're about to have 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.240 dinner and it's gonna blow your mind what we're gonna have. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.400 You're not gonna want to miss it. That was the 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.320 best spaghetti of all time. But the dessert is going 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.240 to take you to places you've never been said that 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.000 if you could weave this dynamic into your community conversations, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:05.360 you're never gonna guess the standards that we have the community. Actually, Strea, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.160 you'll never guess the type of community we want to 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.280 built here. Time for you to go to the grocery 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:19.120 store without having to see that night. Yeah, you're welcome. No, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.240 I just thought it was funny. It was a good statement, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.320 you know what there there. It's really difficult to build 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.200 a documentary style podcast, especially with somebody like George mcjunkin, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.080 because there's so many different facets of it. The whole 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.400 premise of the series is not about George mcjunkin. It's 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.400 about the fulsome sight. But I didn't want to spill 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.320 all the beans about George right at the beginning. So anyway, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.320 I agree with it way too much. Foreshadow people today, 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:50.280 they are instant information shadow to the day we all 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.840 know you are. But people today you like you wonder something, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.960 you pick up the phone, you google it. I needs 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.960 this right and now let me think about this, like no, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.400 let me type it out real quick. Get you answer. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.120 So you want the information instantly? You don't. You want 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.760 to you don't want to wait around. And I get 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.960 it because I was about to chew my arms off 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.720 trying to think out what is this podcast about? And 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.640 finally I still don't know what it was about. You've 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.360 got to start listening to these things. Hey, okay, so 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.960 moving on. I've just got a few little topics here 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.400 of things I want to discuss. Did you did you? 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:29.760 Did you guys here that they they have postponed quote 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:35.400 unquote the bear season in Washington State. Care about that? Yeah? 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.280 This is a serious This is a serious issue. No 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.320 foreshadowing here. TC seventy four oh three on iTunes called 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:47.120 him out. All his friends are gonna know. He's triggered. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.720 That's what we called him. In oh school, Washington State. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.280 They have they have a commission and right now the 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.200 commission I believe has four seats in it and it's 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.920 supposed to have vibe there's an unfilled seat, and so 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.920 there can be issues that come up. It's a lot 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.960 of decision where they just have to basically be at 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:13.960 a standstill. Who kind of the question who chooses the 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.480 people who occupy these seats? Well, that would be different 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.680 for every state, and I'm not sure exactly how Washington 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:25.040 how that works many of them, Like here in Arkansas, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.160 it's it's a point ease. This is like the su 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.840 yeah in the state, exactly what it is. And so 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.360 what what you have happening just on a if you're 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.920 just looking at the national scale in the in in 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.400 some of these different states, especially states that have big 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.760 urban centers like Washington State would have Seattle. But what's 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.200 happening is that where there are large urban centers like Seattle, Washington, Dan, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.520 that's where most of the state lives, like in terms 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.520 of population. So these there's big, massive numbers of people 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.280 that typically out number the the people in the rural 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.399 areas of the state, or at least equivalent. Another example 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.679 would be in Michigan where my friends at the Michigan 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:12.760 Bear Hunters, they're constantly talking about, you know, the big 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.359 cities in Michigan, Detroit and where there's these massive urban centers, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:21.200 and these people simply don't have an understanding of rural 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.640 culture in the way things work in terms of wildlife management. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.440 Those urban centers are often easily preyed upon by those 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.320 who have an agenda too that's not favorable to hunting 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.879 in a significant way. There are animal rights groups like 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.960 the Humane Society of the United States that have massive, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.680 massive budgets, I mean, like just an unbelievable amount of money. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.719 And where do you think they're going to spend their 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.680 money in in trying to build their campaigns. They're gonna 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.919 spend their money where they're gonna get banged for their buttons. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.480 And so they spend money in a lot of these 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.680 urban centers in and pick specific things. And it's not 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.159 always against hunting. Sometimes it's it's with confinement, agriculture or whatever. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.520 You know. They're they're involving a whole lot of different stuff, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.800 but hunting is definitely something they're involved in. And there's many, many, 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:17.040 other even statewide groups that are affiliated with some of 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.480 these bigger national groups. And basically you have this this 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.200 thing where these urban centers end up controlling wildlife management 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:30.159 in Michigan, Michigan is a referendum state, which means if 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.200 you can get enough signatures on a cheat paper, you 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:38.159 can get anything on the ballot. That's a very simplified version. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.679 If they can get a hundred thousand signatures, they can 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.919 basically put vote on just about anything. In some states, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.320 like in Arkansas, all of our wildlife management is run 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.240 by a commission, a sept a seven seated commission has understanding, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.000 so all the decisions of wildlife are made by them, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.600 not by just the average voter in the state. And 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.400 so that's a good thing as long as your commissioners 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.639 understand hunting, understand why life management are pro hunting, and 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.200 you know, I have some sense. I'm not sure what's 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.760 going on in Washington because there's there was a there's 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.760 a four seat commission, and two of them voted to 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.240 against having a spring bear season, and to them voted 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.520 for it. And the way that it came up was 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.480 the anti group started a lot of propaganda about spring 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.600 bear seasons, just saying all this negative stuff. They put 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.480 it up and it's now been postponed. And that's a 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.840 tragedy because it may not seem like that a big 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.440 a deal, but it is no secret that that that 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.880 anti hunting agenda in this country is designed to break 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:50.560 down our system incrementally incrementalization. They're not trying to, they can't. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.760 They're not just gonna shut down hunting. Was any of 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.760 it based off of scientific research from the Department of 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.560 Natural Resources or gaming fish gaming fishes is for it, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.240 and and it's a very very regulated season. It's a 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.600 draw season. I went through and looked at the looked 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.280 at the results of the hunt from the from the 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.000 last several seasons, and basically it's not over the counter thing. 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.400 You can't just go to Washington and buy a spring 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.680 bear tag and go hunting. They have it looks like 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:24.639 about fifteen different zones and each zone has allotted a 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:29.320 certain number of permits, and it's very regulated. And one 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.560 of the things that they sometimes have used against spring 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.440 bear hunting is that you could shoot a sow with 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:40.159 a cub, which just doesn't happen very very often. And 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.480 when you look at the male to female kills in 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.960 these different zones, there's a very high skew towards males 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.480 being killed in that spring season. And they put spring 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.760 seasons at such a time when it's gonna be much 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.080 more likely that you're gonna kill a male earlier in 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.320 the spring. The males are out roaming around a bunch 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.080 more than the soles with cubs. So you know, it's 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.080 just there's a bunch of science behind it. And um 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.440 so I say all that to say, you know, we 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.640 live in like this heyday seemingly of North American hunting, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:17.040 and we live in this also, this little time block 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.879 of being humans where it's hard to see beyond that 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.440 time block. And we may be like hunting is not 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.360 that threatened, but it absolutely is. And and these guys 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.359 in Washington or seeing that, but there's a chance that 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.320 the spring bear hunt will come back. But uh yeah, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.680 we're gonna work on some action steps for stuff that 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.960 people can do. And you know, this is the phrase 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:39.840 that we say all the time, guard the gate. And 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.919 maybe if you new to the Burger's podcast, you've never 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.679 heard of say that, but garden the gate. Predator hunting 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.040 is the gate for the anti hunting sentiment wherever that 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.560 comes from, to enter into our space as North American hunters. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.200 So if you looked at all the North American hunting, 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.760 you looked at elk hunters, white to hunting, duck hunting, 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.879 pheasant hunting, squirrel hunting, the place the entry point for 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.280 people to crack into our little system that works so 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.960 well and has been the absolute pinnacle of of human 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.160 animal husbandry on planet Earth since humans have been here. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.359 The way they crack in is typically through predator hunting, 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.280 bear hunting specifically. And so that's why we say bear 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.879 hunting is the gate. And so if we we guard 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:31.680 the gate by becoming informed and knowledgeable about why bear 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:36.280 hunting makes sense, why it's sustainable, why it's scientifically backed, 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.200 why it is just such a positive thing, you know. 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.680 And I could go on all the all the talking 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.280 and communicate with our legislators and a g FC commissioners 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.600 and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and and yeah, 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.800 so we say guard the gate. And so in Washington 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.720 they're having a tough time, and there's gonna be some 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.480 places where we can when the when when it comes 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.720 back around and they have a full commission that can 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.920 vote on it and actually make a decision, we could 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.320 flog these guys emails and in different ways we can 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.159 communicate with legislators and say, hey, this is a good thing. 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.280 It doesn't make any sense for us not to have 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:14.040 the spring bear hunt there guard the gate. Yeah. Man, 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.520 it's heavy, heavy topic right here before Thanksgiving speaking a 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.840 heavy topic. If that chair that Dan sitting in the 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:24.000 last to the end of this podcast crash, it is 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.560 Daniel fall into the ground. He's got a handful of 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.400 given this chair. I don't know what's going on for sure. Well, 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.480 I just got back from Nebraska. Had a good white 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:38.400 till hunt in Nebraska. Uh, it's pretty goot. I don't 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.120 have that. I don't have That's an amazing white tail 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.119 hunt in Nebraska. Yeah, that buck is the size of 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:50.520 a truck. It the pictures didn't What about the body 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.520 of the animal was big? Right? It was? They're not 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.560 as big as you would think that. There was probably 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.560 a hundred and sixty pounds buck, probably maybe maybe a 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:05.600 little bigger than that. It looked big. Yeah, it it Uh, 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:07.440 it was a good buck. Had a good hunt with 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.840 the media crew. You'll be able to see that hunt 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.119 on season eleven of Meat Eater at some point, so 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.960 that would be good. So, as you know, on the 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.520 Beargrease Render, what we're doing is we're going to talk 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:25.800 about the last Bargeras podcast, which was part one. This 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:34.679 is an interesting series because probably three. You won't believe, 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.960 you won't believe how many podcasts there will be, just 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:44.280 when you thought it was safe. The pot the series 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.120 is about the fulsome archaeological site, but the whole first 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.960 podcast wasn't about the fulsome site really much at all. 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.480 It was about the man that found the falsome site. 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.080 That's that makes it fun though, because it's gonna be 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.840 it's gonna be really interesting. I have a question for you, Dan, 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:07.399 define for me archaeology. It actually had this thought on 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:12.280 the way here, like what is archaeology actually mean? Thank you, Josh, 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.760 So I'm curious Dan. It's the study of material culture. 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.560 So it's not just stuff that's dug up, but archaeology 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.720 even present day you can look at material culture would 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.080 look like our look at our phones or clothes, anything 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:30.280 like that, material culture, but material human culture exactly. Yeah, 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.320 you're a material human. Nailed on the distinction there, because 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:38.160