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Speaker 1: for a sixteen year old girl missing in Monto County,

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Speaker 1: east of Yosemite National Park. Cardie Goose was last seen

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Speaker 1: early Saturday morning in Chalfont, about fourteen miles north of

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Speaker 1: Bishop What. He says. She doesn't have her cell phone

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Speaker 1: locate her. Carly described to me five seven pounds with

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Speaker 1: help us now bring Carly home, and being joined by

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Speaker 1: a very special guest. Carly's mother is with us. With

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Speaker 1: me is Lindsay. Lindsay Fairly. This is Carly's biological mother

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Speaker 1: Please tell us what you know about the evening. You're gorgeous,

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Speaker 1: about the evening your girl mysteriously disappears. The morning I

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Speaker 1: Everyone joining me right now in the search for Carly.

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Speaker 1: A gorgeous team California girl missing. Just so you know,

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Speaker 1: whenever you have this triangle going, there's gonna be tension, tension.

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Speaker 1: standing out in front of the house. And where did

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00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: this whole thing come up from about her being at

426
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: some party and she was afraid. None of that is

427
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: making sense to me, lindsay, we can't do the investigation

428
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: without a timeline, right right. It's not making sense to me,

429
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: and I wish I The thing that was disturbing to

430
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: me was after the fact I went over to my

431
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: daughter's residence nine hours after she had been missing. Um,

432
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: the whole investigation was dirty from the start. UM. While

433
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: I was there, Melissa played an eight minute audio of

434
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: my daughter's behavior, which was rather calm. On the audio.

435
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't really see what would cause you to video

436
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: or audio tape someone's behavior if you're not, in fact

437
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: concerned about it. Like if why why was she videoing?

438
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: She said that she was really paranoid when she had

439
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: brought her home and Carly got into the car with

440
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: her and said, Melissa, you're gonna kill me. No, you're

441
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: gonna kill me. Now, this is Melissa's side again. I

442
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: didn't get any answers from her dad or answers from

443
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: law enforcement on this. In fact, law enforcement walked through

444
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: me like I was a ghost. When I came there.

445
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: I introduced myself as the biological mother of Carly, and

446
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: they walked right past me, and UM, to go ahead.

447
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh no. They they walked up to Melissa and they said,

448
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: there's one more thing we have to do at this house,

449
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: and that is clear inside the house to make sure

450
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Carly is not in fact inside. I said, you've got

451
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: to be kidding me nine hours after my daughter went missing,

452
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: and you guys are just now upping in the house.

453
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: You let I don't know how many people come in

454
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: and walk in my daughter's room. I said, you guys

455
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: didn't go in and treat it as a crime scene.

456
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: I understand that, but you didn't see if there was

457
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: any form of foul play involved. You didn't see if

458
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: there was any pulled out hair follicles in her head.

459
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: But you know if there's traumas to a hair like

460
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I want answers, like nobody's treating this as anything other

461
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: than a missing person at this point, which they never

462
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: took a look inside the house. They never saw if

463
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: there was a scuffle, because at the eight minute audio,

464
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: at the end of that there was a scuffle and

465
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I said, Melissa, what happened at the end of the audio,

466
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: and she specifically just walks away. It's going on ten

467
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: hours that she's been missing, and I want to put

468
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: this on blast because I don't think she's out in

469
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: the desert. I think that she could have been abducted

470
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: or taken because we do the Via highway and it happens,

471
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: and I'm being real and I just want to let

472
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: everybody know, Alicia, you're calling me. Are you watching the video?

473
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: She's not watching the video. That's okay. I want to

474
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: put this on Blast because I don't know what to

475
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: do to consider her a missing person. Um, you can't

476
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: do an amber alert because she didn't leave in a

477
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: car and I don't have a physical description of a vehicle. Guys,

478
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you are hearing the stepmother Melissa you says Blast on

479
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Facebook Live. She's stating that she believes her stepdaughter may

480
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: have been abducted, but an amber alert it's not possible

481
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: because there's no physical description of a vehicle. Well, you're

482
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: talking about a beautiful young girl, Carly Goosey, who is missing.

483
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Tip line seven six zero nine, three to nine with

484
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: me right now? Is Carly's mother, Lindsay fairly, Lindsay, I

485
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about a clime that Lindsay's

486
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, that Carly's footprints were found in the mountains.

487
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: That to me is suspicious as well. Her dad was

488
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: the one to have found them, And um, I there's

489
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: no confirmation. There's not even a confirmation that my daughter

490
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: was even spotted. As far as I know, she was

491
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: never seen leaving that house at all. That morning, and

492
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: all the tips that were coming in, we're going straight

493
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: to me Lista's cell phone and I said, how do

494
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: you guys, have all your neighbors have your cellphone? If

495
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: you just moved in here three months ago, don't I

496
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't meet my neighbors till I

497
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: move out this with me Robert lets crime online dot

498
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter and author of Beautiful Life, Robin, what

499
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: can you tell me about that? The footprints that seems

500
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: very odd, Yeah, is extremely odd to me, has nothing

501
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: to do with the case. It sounds like somebody is

502
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: trying to put something else out there to divert the

503
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: police to something that could be completely bogus. I happen

504
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: to believe that it is possible that she never did

505
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: leave the house in the morning, but who knows, because

506
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: if there's no videotape, if there's no security cameras on

507
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: the exterior of this home or on neighboring homes. To me,

508
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: if I was an investigator on this case, I would

509
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: go door to door and say, have you seen this woman,

510
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the sixteen year old girl, and really look at video

511
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: cameras in the town house to house. Did she ever

512
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: leave the home she was in. I don't know. There's

513
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: so many inconsistencies in the story. Uh, it's hard to

514
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: know what to believe. The footprints though, I don't buy it. Well,

515
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand how out in the desert you can

516
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: identify footprints that's your Baillywick did Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor

517
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: forensics at Jacksville State University, death investigator and author of

518
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet Just Scott, I've done a lot

519
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: of footprint cases, but not from desert sand um by

520
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: by any any footprint, you're gonna have to have a

521
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: shoe tread. Yeah, Yeah, you're right. It's a specific identifier.

522
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: And I don't see how this, Uh you know, how

523
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: this person, the father who allegedly made the statement, can

524
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: narrow this down to this little girl's feet. I don't

525
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: see how that's possible. And how how would you know

526
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: specifically to go to a particular area in order to

527
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: identify these things? Uh, I'm I'm just I'm just very

528
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: curious about this whole thing. Where's law enforcement and all

529
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: of this. Why isn't this being locked down and they're

530
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: talking about this thing as a crime scene at this point,

531
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: because all of this is this is time is precious,

532
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: physical evidence is precious, and right now it seems like

533
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: it seems like a three ring circus at this point,

534
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: very very for us. So back to Jenne in North Carolina,

535
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: our caller along with Buddy in South Korea. Jen, I

536
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: still can't give you a timeline. Okay, all I can

537
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: give you. It's like opening up a box of chocolate.

538
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: Just pick one and that's that's way way wrong. Jenn

539
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. We've got a possible five thirty last

540
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: time she's seen Carle seen in bed with step mom.

541
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: Then we've got a six thirty last time she's seen

542
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: in bed with stepmom. Then we have a last scene

543
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: outside the front of the house. Two Lindsay. Fairly, this

544
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: is Carly's bio mom Lindsay who saw her in front

545
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: of the house allegedly, No nobody all my daughter? Um,

546
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: where'd we get? That? Was a man supposedly sitting in

547
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: his hot tub at six thirty am? And he he

548
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: claims he saw a young girl walking by with a

549
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: piece of paper And I said that a piece of paper?

550
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: What would that have been? Melissa? You know? A suicide note?

551
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario I'm trying to wrap my head around

552
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: this too, And she said no, she was in the

553
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: counseling um group at her school, and she was really

554
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: adamant about getting her counseling paper back. I said, on

555
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: the Saturday morning, there's no school, Like, what's what's going

556
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: on here? My ex husband didn't call me until am,

557
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: supposedly three hours after my daughter has been seen. We

558
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: did four hours, four hours. Let me understand what happened.

559
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Say at five thirty, let's go with that story that

560
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: the stepmother was in bed with her at five thirty

561
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: A m Okay, did the stepmother get up at five thirty? Is?

562
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: Did she get up for the day at five thirty?

563
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: Where did she go at five thirty? She told me

564
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: that she woke up and noticed that Carly wasn't there,

565
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: and got up and started searching the house immediately. And

566
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: that was all I got. And I did not like

567
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: the fact that when Zack called me that more name,

568
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: within twenty minutes, I called him back, you know, have

569
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: you heard anything? Where do you think she would go?

570
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: And he got really irate with me on the phone,

571
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, I've got to go. I just broke

572
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: my truck I've got to go, And I said, what

573
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: do you mean you broke your truck? Where are you?

574
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: When he hung up on me, And that was around

575
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: nine thirty. Were contacted relations with the stepmother and the father?

576
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: How did they get along and how often did you

577
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: speak to her? Um? There were times my daughter would say,

578
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: I hate Melissa. She drives me nuts. She's such a

579
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: bit this step and together? What teenager? Doesn't you know?

580
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: You know they say that about step parents all the time.

581
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: I just pushed it off as a teen thing. Um,

582
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: she was spoiled, But that doesn't mean they had a

583
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: good relationship. Um, she just she was bored all the time.

584
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: You know. The they move out of town about fourteen

585
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: aisles and she said, I'm bored. I have no friends

586
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: out here. All my friends get to hang out in

587
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: town and I'm just bored all the time. So the

588
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: relationship part, yeah, yeah, the relationship part. I mean I'm

589
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: hearing more and more she didn't have a good relationship,

590
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: but I mean I wasn't physically there all the time,

591
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: so I can't really pinpoint how it was. How often

592
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: did you guys talk? We would talk all the time.

593
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: She would text me and she'd usually say hey mom,

594
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: and I'd be like hey Carly or hey daughter, Hey,

595
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, because it was just cute, like that's how

596
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: we were. And and I just missed her conversations and

597
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: her little quirkiness, and I just wanted to find her, honestly,

598
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: And if I find out somebody her tortured her, put

599
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: her through any pains, They're definitely going to see the

600
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: wrath of God. I mean, I just I don't know

601
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: what to do. I just I literally I want to

602
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: see her and touch her and smell her. I know

603
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, but I missed her, and I just

604
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: I want answers. And I see the consistencies that you

605
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: guys see and her car, Melissa's cars now in the

606
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: auto body shops. And I called investigators yesterday. I said,

607
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: are you aware of this? Why is her car in

608
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the shop? Is she trying to get it detailed? Is

609
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: she trying to get it repaired? What I want answers

610
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: on that too. I mean, I feel like I've been

611
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: put in the closet and just you'll be fed your

612
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: meal in ten hours when we're ready to give you

613
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: any information. You know, That's how I feel. I'm not

614
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: getting the answers either, and I just don't understand. Tomorrow,

615
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: join us as we talk to the stepmother and Melissa,

616
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you say, and the bio dad, Zachary, what happened? Where

617
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: is Carl? You say? Tipline seven six or nine three

618
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: two seven five for nine Bring her home, Nancy Grace

619
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Crime Story, signing off, goodbye friend, h