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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Tell us who you're with.

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Speaker 2: I'm with New Jersey Public Health Innovation Political Action Committee

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: And why are you here?

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Speaker 2: I'm here to super Bobby because he's supported New Jersey

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Speaker 2: for almost a decade and I wouldn't be any other

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Speaker 2: place because he's always come to New Jersey when we've

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Speaker 2: called him, and as everyone knows in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: we preserve the religious exemption and we're forever in debted

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Speaker 2: to him as well as all the advocates of show ups.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Melanie.

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Speaker 4: So I'm here with Jill Perez and.

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Speaker 5: And Amy Lezski and Amy Lezski also from New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: We are so why are you here today?

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Speaker 6: To squirt Bobby?

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Speaker 7: He was very supportive of us in Trenton in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 8: I feel like he said so much good.

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Speaker 2: For the environment and I just think he he will

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Speaker 2: hopefully make some wager changes in a very good direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, tell us a little bit about the Battle

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Speaker 4: of Trent and what.

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Speaker 3: Was that about?

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Speaker 4: So the Battle of trenton December twenty nineteen, and many

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Speaker 4: of us remembered so well. We were there every Monday

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Speaker 4: on Thursday as the legislator's met we were there in January.

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Speaker 4: We really were quite frightened we would lose our religious exemption.

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Speaker 4: I sat in the Assembly as I watched us lose

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Speaker 4: in the Assembly, and then you know, we just continue

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Speaker 4: to show up and pray and know that we weren't

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Speaker 4: going away, and that we have this right and it

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Speaker 4: should never be taken away.

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Speaker 1: And why is the religious exemption? Why was that important

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Speaker 1: to you?

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Speaker 4: Well, we've had it, so why will we Why should

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Speaker 4: it be taken away? The timing was also quite suspicious,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I'm actually I'm an educator, and my

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Speaker 4: own children would have been threatened with the potential of

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Speaker 4: being kicked out of school. Right, So we should always

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Speaker 4: know what's going on our bodies and we should always

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Speaker 4: have that choice, and we have it now.

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Speaker 1: And then we thank him for that.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: Joe to the line when you can suss.

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Speaker 9: Okay Wednesday, January in the Eure over a Lord twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty five. You're in the war room today, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 9: History on Capitol Hill. Robert F. Kennedy Junior, the son

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Speaker 9: of the slain Bobby Kennedy, the brother of Jack Kennedy,

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Speaker 9: is there for his confirmation hearing, and it's going to

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Speaker 9: be a wild one. As we've told you, prepped you.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna need people at the ramparts today. Two zero

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Speaker 9: two two two four three one two one is the

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Speaker 9: Senate main switchboard. Also, Grace Chung, the Queen of the Trolls,

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Speaker 9: is going to be putting out a bill blaster. We

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Speaker 9: want to get to those local offices. Also, you're gonna

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Speaker 9: have to stiffen some spines here, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 9: And today, so for the next I don't know, forty

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Speaker 9: eight seventy two hours, Uh, we're going to have Bobby

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Speaker 9: Kennedy today and then tomorrow doubleheader, Tulsea, Gabbert, Cash, Mattel.

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Speaker 9: So it's manned the ramparts in all three of these,

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Speaker 9: Cash probably being the safest. But we can't take anything

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Speaker 9: for granted. Pam BONDI just came out a committee vot

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Speaker 9: at a committee twelve to ten at a judiciary. They're

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Speaker 9: trying to expedite this. Thune and Senator Thune, we got

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Speaker 9: to get on this, so folks, you might want to

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Speaker 9: call John Thune to start off with. There's a backlog

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Speaker 9: because Democrats are playing games and quite frankly, we're not

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Speaker 9: forcing the issue. We need to get these people up

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Speaker 9: up up to the floor, through committee, up to the floor.

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Speaker 9: We need our team Russ, vote O and B. You

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Speaker 9: see this situation yesterday with the funding. Federal judge stepped

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Speaker 9: in right now and we're going to cut live obviously

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Speaker 9: to the Senate hearing when Robert F. Kennedy begins his

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Speaker 9: opening statement. The rest of it would kind of be maybe,

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Speaker 9: I tell you when the Minority of an ask my

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Speaker 9: crack production team here when we look at the Democrat

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Speaker 9: when they start, they're going to start reading Bobby Kennedy

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Speaker 9: the right extu So the co head, the ranking member

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Speaker 9: right to that, not the Republican. So today's a workday,

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Speaker 9: Natalie Winners. Is that the White House we're going to

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Speaker 9: get hurt this afternoon when we have more to report

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Speaker 9: on how the White House is driving the Kennedy nomination.

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Speaker 9: Senator Rand Paul is scheduled to join us here. Momentarily

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Speaker 9: we wanted him, We thought he was a perfect pick

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Speaker 9: to talk about this. We also Senator Tommy Teverville of

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Speaker 9: Senator Ram Paul joins us right now. Senator Ran Paul,

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Speaker 9: thank you for coming to the warroom today, of all days.

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Speaker 9: First off circuit, you've given perspective, since you're a doctor,

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Speaker 9: walked through Bobby Kennedy's credentials. I mean he's getting lit

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Speaker 9: up overnight. These Democrats are coming in from every different direction.

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Speaker 9: I think people look to you on the Republican side

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Speaker 9: as a safe pair of hands of what's right. You're

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Speaker 9: the guy that led the fight against Fauci, which we'll

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Speaker 9: get to in a minute. Give us your perspective, Sir

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Speaker 9: of Robert F. Kennedy Junior as Secretary of HHS.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think he's a disruptor, but I think

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Speaker 11: it's necessary to disrupt things.

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Speaker 5: We've got it wrong in public health for so long.

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Speaker 11: I mean we've actually recommended the wrong kind of food

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Speaker 11: So much about public health has been wrong, and I

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Speaker 11: think we need somebody new to come in. I think

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Speaker 11: when people meet Bobby Kennedy and have a conversation with him,

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Speaker 11: and I've heard this from other senators, they're impressed with

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Speaker 11: his breadth of knowledge, his ability to discuss the specifics,

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Speaker 11: but ultimately the things he's for are really not shouldn't

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Speaker 11: be that controversial. Transparency, open discussion of risks and benefits. Look,

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Speaker 11: everything has risks and benefits, and some of it depends

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Speaker 11: on your age, some of it depends on your weight,

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Speaker 11: some of it depends on your lifestyle.

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Speaker 5: There are all kinds of.

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Speaker 11: Things that go into deciding whether to take a medication,

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Speaker 11: to take a vaccine, to take chemotherapy. I mean, there

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Speaker 11: are all kinds of questions that should be answered. This

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Speaker 11: is what you want from your doctor and from your

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Speaker 11: government is objectivity. And I think what's happened over the

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Speaker 11: last few years is that the government has been dishonest

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Speaker 11: with us and it has led to a great deal

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Speaker 11: is to have a truth teller who believes in transparency.

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Speaker 5: Aby Kennedy is that.

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Speaker 9: I think people were pretty shocked when someone likes you

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Speaker 9: said the government's been desioned. So let's leave fauci aside.

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Speaker 9: Where have you seen and experienced actually the health apparatus,

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Speaker 9: the big pharma health industrial complex, in sworn testimony, or

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Speaker 9: in things where they in the government, where they should be.

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Speaker 9: They should be honest and straightforward and transparent to the

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Speaker 11: Well, particularly with the COVID vaccine, I think that they

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Speaker 11: were dishonest in the sense that there's a difference depending

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Speaker 11: on how old you are, whether or not the risks

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Speaker 11: exceed the benefits. So, for example, if this was March

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Speaker 11: of twenty twenty and people were dying, a significant amount

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Speaker 11: of people were dying in March of twenty twenty, my

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Speaker 11: advice would be, if you were in the risk category,

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Speaker 11: I'd take your chances with the vaccine. I still think

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Speaker 11: that the disease was worse than the vaccine for people

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Speaker 11: probably over sixty over sixty five, particularly if you're overweight,

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Speaker 11: risks of the vaccine actually exceed the benefits of the vaccine.

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Speaker 11: And this is absolutely true. And when the government said

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Speaker 11: that everybody should be taking not just one, not just two,

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Speaker 11: don't believe that. And it's interesting if you look at

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Speaker 11: the statistics. I think people are smarter than you give

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Speaker 11: them credit for them. Over age sixty five in our country,

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Speaker 11: ninety seven percent of people chose to get the vaccine

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Speaker 5: Twenty or twenty twenty one when it came out.

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Speaker 11: If you look at underage twenty today, it's about maybe

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Speaker 11: five or ten percent are giving their five and ten

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Speaker 11: going to the hospital, they can't even tell when their

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Speaker 11: kids get COVID, and the virus is actually much less

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Speaker 11: dangerous now. So it's really not about being anti vaccine

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Speaker 11: or pro vaccine. It's a nuanced position that I'm pro freedom.

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Speaker 11: The government should give you honest information and then you

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Speaker 11: can decide if you're a worry word you want to

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Speaker 11: vaccinate your five year old with COVID vaccine. The harm

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Speaker 11: is not real common, but there's about four to six

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Speaker 11: chances in ten thousand that could get a significant enough

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Speaker 11: with those risks, do it.

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Speaker 5: But that's what happens in a free country. We give

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Speaker 5: you the information.

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Speaker 11: And I think because of the dishonesty over the COVID vaccine,

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Speaker 11: because of that, people are now distrusting virtually anything the

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Speaker 9: But I just want to go back to that, were

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Speaker 9: they wrong, are they actually new and they lie to us?

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Speaker 9: I think it's the latter, But I'd like to hear

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Speaker 9: your opinion. I remember you drilling. Remember here at war Room,

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Speaker 9: we covered those hearings wall to wall. It turns out

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Speaker 9: I think they had facts and they thought the American

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Speaker 9: to us? Or did they get it wrong? Or they

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Speaker 9: knew what they were doing, and they like to us,

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Speaker 9: what did they do?

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Speaker 5: Well, let's take masks.

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Speaker 11: If you take masks for example, we studied masks for

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Speaker 11: twenty years preceding this, and it was accepted by almost everybody,

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Speaker 11: even in governmental pandemic circles, all the people always wringing

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Speaker 11: masks didn't work when they came on.

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Speaker 11: The only time Anthony Valchi was honest is actually in private.

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Speaker 11: He told his coworkers, you know, they don't work. He

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Speaker 11: don't need to wear them. But within a couple of

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Speaker 11: it's a real disservice is by telling people that cloth

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Speaker 11: masks work.

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Speaker 6: Let's say you're.

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Speaker 11: Seventy five years old and you go into your spouse's

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Speaker 11: really don't want to get COVID from them.

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Speaker 1: Wearing a cloth.

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Speaker 11: Mask is a disservice to tell you that that's safe.

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Speaker 11: So he actually told you things that were unsafe to

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Speaker 11: do and led to unsafe behavior. The same way, with

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Speaker 11: six foot of distance, you would say, well, I'm at risk,

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Speaker 11: I'm overweight, i have diabetes, and my spouse has COVID.

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Speaker 11: I'll just stay six feet away from him. No, if

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Speaker 11: were at risk, he gave you bad advice there too.

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Speaker 9: Sarat and Paul, you've been the tip of the spirit

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Speaker 9: Yeah, A, Senator Paul, We're going to jump to Bobby

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Speaker 12: Chairman Grape Oh, thank you, Member Wid and members of

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Speaker 12: a strong nation when our people.

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Speaker 6: Are so sick.

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Speaker 12: A healthy person has a thousand dreams, a sick person

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Speaker 12: has only one. At ay, over half of our countrymen

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Speaker 12: and women are are chronically ill. When I met with

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Speaker 12: President Trump last summer, I discovered that he is more

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Speaker 12: than just concern for the tragic situation, but genuine care.

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Speaker 12: President Trump is committed to restoring the American dream, and

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Speaker 12: seventy seven million a miire Americans delivered a mandate to

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Speaker 12: him to do just that, doing part to the embrace

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Speaker 12: and elevation of the Make America Healthy and movement. His movement,

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Speaker 12: led largely by MAHA moms from every state, and you

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Speaker 12: can see many of them behind us today and in

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Speaker 12: the hallways and in the lobbies, is one of the

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Speaker 12: most transcendent and powerful movements I've ever seen. I promise

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Speaker 12: President Trump that have confirmed I will do everything in

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Speaker 12: my power to put the health of Americans back on track.

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Speaker 12: And I've been greatly heartened to discover a deep level

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Speaker 12: of care among members of this committee, to both Democrats

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Speaker 12: and Republicans.

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Speaker 6: I came away from.

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Speaker 12: Our conversations confident that we can put aside our divisions

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Speaker 12: for the sake of a healthy America. For a long time,

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Speaker 12: the nation has been locked in a divisive health care

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Speaker 12: debate about who pays oh when healthcare cause reached twenty percent,

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Speaker 12: there are no good options, only bad ones. Shifting the

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Speaker 12: burden around between government and corporations and insurers and providers

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Speaker 12: and families is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Speaker 12: Our country will sink beneath the sea of desperation and

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Speaker 12: debt if we don't change the course. And ask I

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Speaker 12: are health care costs so high in the first place,

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Speaker 12: the obvious answer is chronic disease, the C disease. As

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Speaker 12: ninety percent of healthcare spending goes toward managing chronic disease,

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Speaker 12: which is lower income Americans the hardest. The President's pledge

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Speaker 12: is not to make some Americans happy again, to healthy again,

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Speaker 12: but to make all of our people healthy again. There

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Speaker 12: is no single culprint in chronic disease. Much as I

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Speaker 12: have criticized certain industries and agencies as in a Trump

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Speaker 12: and I underst and that most of their scientists and

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Speaker 12: experts genuinely care about American health. Therefore, we will bring

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Speaker 12: together all stakeholders in pursuit of this unifying goal. Before

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Speaker 12: I conclude, I want to make sure the committee is

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Speaker 12: clear about a few things. News reports have claimed that

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Speaker 12: I am anti vaccine or any industry.

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Speaker 6: I am neither. I am pro safety.

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Speaker 13: We'll have order. Please proceed, mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 6: I am pro safety.

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Speaker 12: I work for years to raise awareness about the mercury

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Speaker 12: and toxic chemicals and fish, and nobody called me any fish.

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Speaker 12: And I believe that that vaccines play a critical role

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Speaker 12: in healthcare. All of my kids are vaccinated. I've written

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Speaker 12: many books on vaccines. My first book in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 12: The first line of it is I am not anti vaccine,

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Speaker 12: and the last line is I am not anti vaccine,

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Speaker 12: or I'm I the enemy of food producers, American farms

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Speaker 12: and the bedrock of our culture, of our politics, of

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Speaker 12: our national security. I was a four age kid and

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Speaker 12: I spent my summer working on ranches. I went to

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Speaker 12: work with our farmers. I want to work with our

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Speaker 12: farmers and food producers to remove burdens and regulations and

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Speaker 12: unleash American ingenuity. AH simply cannot succeed without a partnership,

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Speaker 12: but the full partnership of American farmers. In my advocacy,

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Speaker 12: I've often disturbed the status quo by asking uncomfortable questions. Well,

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to apologize for that. We have massive

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Speaker 12: health albums in this country that we must face honestly,

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Speaker 12: And the first thing I've done every morning for the

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Speaker 12: past twenty years is to get on my knees and

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Speaker 12: pray to God. That he would put me in a

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Speaker 12: position to end the chronic disease epidemic and to help

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Speaker 12: America's children. That's why I'm so grateful to President Trump

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Speaker 12: the opportunity to sit before you today and seek your.

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Speaker 6: Support and partnership in this endeavor.

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Speaker 12: I will conclude with a promise the members of this committee,

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Speaker 12: to the President and to all the tens of millions

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Speaker 12: of parents across America, especially the moms who have propelled

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Speaker 12: this issue to center stage. Should I be so privileged

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Speaker 12: as to be confirmed, we will make sure our tax

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Speaker 12: dollars support healthy foods. We will scrutinize the chemical additives

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Speaker 12: in our food supply. We will remove financial conflicts of

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Speaker 12: interest from our agencies. We will create an honest, unbiased,

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Speaker 12: goals andandard science at HHS, accountable to the President, to Congress.

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Speaker 6: And to the American people.

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Speaker 12: We will reverse the chronic disease epidemic and put the

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Speaker 12: nation back on the road to good health.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, Thank you, mister Kennedy. Mister Kennedy, I will begin.

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Speaker 14: Each of us will have five minutes to ask you questions,

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Speaker 14: and then at the conclusion of the hearing, if there

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Speaker 14: are further questions.

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Speaker 9: Okay, here's what we're going to do. We're gonna go

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Speaker 9: back as we normally do. The Republicans are going to

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Speaker 9: ask him. I'm as saying softballs. We'll ask him questions.

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Speaker 9: It's the Democrats who don't come after him. I think

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Speaker 9: it's quite important. I want this to be a teaching moment.

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Speaker 9: One of the things we're focused on here is the

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Speaker 9: is the established order and how the established order runs

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Speaker 9: the deal in the United States. There's not really a

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Speaker 9: difference between Republicans and Democrats. There are two sides of

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Speaker 9: the same neoliberal neo con coin to wit the Wall

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Speaker 9: Street Journal ruper Murdoch. I haven't seen Paul g Joue.

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Speaker 9: I can say this, Paul g Joe has a person

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Speaker 9: he hates more than Steve Bennon, and that is Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 9: The Murdoch apparatus is all in on takedown of Bobby Kennedy. Okay,

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Speaker 9: now we start off this with Widen. Widen, Senator Widen.

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Speaker 9: You remember Widen from Scott Besson's from the from the

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Speaker 9: from the from Just go my heads up. We'll go

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Speaker 9: back to Bobby live as soon as he gets asked

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Speaker 9: a cheap shot question. You remember Widen with Scott Besson,

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Speaker 9: and Scott Besson did what we recommend everybody when a

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Speaker 9: guy like Wyden asked a wise guy question, take a

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Speaker 9: deep breaths. God adjusted his glasses a very professorial and

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Speaker 9: that's a tale with him. And then in a very

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Speaker 9: calm manner, he went and he just lit up Widen

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Speaker 9: about what a moron he was in a very gentlemanly way.

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Speaker 9: And that's in a message you never saw really a

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Speaker 9: tough question coming from any other Democrats the rest of date.

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Speaker 9: Why because Scott showed him right there that he knows

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Speaker 9: ten times more about the topic than they do. And

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Speaker 9: if you want to be made a full on global television,

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Speaker 9: we're right here to do it. Widen had that opportunity

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Speaker 9: today he's the ranking member. Remember the structure you have,

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Speaker 9: you have, we control the committee. Okay, let's go. We're

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Speaker 9: going to go back live, continue this lesson. Let's go

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Speaker 9: back live to the Senate.

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Speaker 15: Inflicting stories about vaccines. You say one thing and then

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Speaker 15: you say another. In your testimony today under oath, you

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Speaker 15: denied that you were anti vaccine, but during a podcast

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Speaker 15: interview in July of twenty twenty three, you said quote,

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Speaker 15: no vaccine is safe and effective. In your testimony today,

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Speaker 15: in order to prove you're not anti vax you note

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Speaker 15: that all your kids are vaccinated. But in a podcast

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Speaker 15: in twenty twenty you said, and I quote, you would

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Speaker 15: do anything, pay anything to go back in time and

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Speaker 15: not vaccinate your kids. Mister Kennedy, all of these things

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Speaker 15: cannot be true. So are you lying to Congress today

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Speaker 15: when you say you are a pro vaccine or did

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Speaker 15: you lie on all those podcasts?

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Speaker 3: We have all of this on tape, by the way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a senator.

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Speaker 12: As you know, because it's been repeatedly debunked, that statement

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Speaker 12: that I made on the Lexus Freedman podcast was a

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Speaker 12: fragment of this statement.

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Speaker 6: He asked me, and.

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Speaker 12: Anybody who actually goes and looks at that podcast.

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Speaker 6: And we'll see this.

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Speaker 12: He asked me, are there vaccines that are saving effective?

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Speaker 12: And I said to him some of the live virus

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Speaker 12: vaccines are. And I said, there are no vaccines that

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Speaker 12: are saving effective. And I was going to continue for

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Speaker 12: every person. Every medicine has people who are sensitive to them,

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Speaker 12: including vaccines. So interrupted me at that point. I've corrected

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Speaker 12: it many times, including on national TV. You know, about this, Senator,

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Speaker 12: and so bringing this up right now is dishonest.

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Speaker 15: Let's be clear about what you've actually done. Then, since

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Speaker 15: you want to deny your statements, for example, you have

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Speaker 15: a history of trying to take vaccines away from people.

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Speaker 15: In May of twenty twenty one, you petitioned the Food

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Speaker 15: and Drug Administration to not only block Americans from having

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Speaker 15: access to the COVID vaccine, but to prevent any future

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Speaker 15: access to the life saving vaccine. Are you denying that

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Speaker 15: your name is on the petition?

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Speaker 6: We brought that petition after.

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Speaker 12: CDC recommended a COVID vaccine without any scientific basis or

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Speaker 12: six year old children. Most experts agree today, even the

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Speaker 12: people who did it back then, at COVID vaccines are

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Speaker 12: inappropriate for your six year old children, who basically have

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Speaker 12: a zero risk. I'm COVID. That's why I brought that lawsuit.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to I want to emphasis.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy, the fact.

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Speaker 13: The committee will be in order.

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Speaker 14: And to the audience, Senator, I'm not I can hold

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Speaker 14: off for a second.

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Speaker 13: Mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 14: To the audience, comments from the audience are inappropriate and

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Speaker 14: out of order, and if there are any further disruptions,

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Speaker 14: the committee will recess until the police can restore order.

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Speaker 13: Please follow the rules of the committee. Mister Kennedy, you

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Speaker 13: may proceed.

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Speaker 12: I always want to point out a year recitation of

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Speaker 12: what happened in Samoa is absolutely wrong, and you know

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Speaker 12: what's wrong, so.

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Speaker 3: That we'll get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 15: Right now, we're talking about the petition that you filed

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Speaker 15: to block Americans from having access to the vaccine and

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Speaker 15: to prevent any future access to the vaccine. Those facts

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Speaker 15: are on the record. My third question to you is uh,

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Speaker 15: you made almost five million dollars from book deals, mostly

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Speaker 15: promoting junk science. In twenty twenty one, in a book

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Speaker 15: called The Measles Book, you wrote that parents had been

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Speaker 15: quote misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease

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Speaker 15: and that measles vaccines are necessary, safe and effective. The

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Speaker 15: reality is measles are in fact deadly and highly contagious,

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Speaker 15: something that you should have learned after your lives contributed

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Speaker 15: to the deaths of eighty three people, most of them children,

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Speaker 15: in a measles outbreak in Samoa. So my question here is,

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Speaker 15: mister Kennedy, is measles deadly?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Or no?

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Speaker 12: The death rate from measles historically in this country in

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Speaker 12: nineteen sixty three, the year before the introduction of the vaccine,

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Speaker 12: was one in ten thousand. Let me explain what happened

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Speaker 12: in Samoa. In Samoa in twenty seventeen or twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 12: there were two kids who died following the MMR vaccine,

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Speaker 12: and the vaccination rates in Samoa dropped precipitously from about

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Speaker 12: the sixty three percent to the mid thirties. So they've

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Speaker 12: never been very high. And in twenty eighteen, two more

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Speaker 12: kids died following the MMR vaccine, and the government Samoa

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Speaker 12: banned the MMR vaccine. I arrived a year later, when

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Speaker 12: vaccination rates were already below any previous level. I went

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Speaker 12: there nothing to do with vaccines. I went there to

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Speaker 12: introduce a medical informatic system. I would digitalize records in

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Speaker 12: Samoa and make health delivery much more efficient. I never taught,

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Speaker 12: gave any public statement about vaccine.

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Speaker 6: You cannot find a single Samoan who.

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Speaker 12: Will say I didn't get a vaccine because of Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 12: I went in June of twenty nineteen. The measles house

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Speaker 12: break started in August. Oh clearly I had nothing to

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Speaker 12: do with the measles. Not only that, Not only that,

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Speaker 12: if you let me finish, you have had some time,

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Speaker 12: if you have been finished editor, if you let me finish.

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Speaker 12: There are eighty three people died when the tissue samples

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Speaker 12: were sent to New Zealand. Not most of those people

659
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Speaker 12: did not have measles. We don't know what was killing them.

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Speaker 12: The same outbreak occurred in Donga and Fiji, and no

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Speaker 12: extra people died. There were seven measles outbreaks in the

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Speaker 12: thirteen years prior to my arrival.

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Speaker 3: I would like to get my time back.

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Speaker 15: The nominee wrote a book saying that people had been

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Speaker 15: misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease. He's

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Speaker 15: trying now to play down his role in Samoa. That's

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Speaker 15: not what the parents say, That's not what Governor Green says.

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Speaker 15: It's time to make sure that we blow the whistle

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Speaker 15: on actually what your views are.

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Speaker 3: At least we're starting.

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Speaker 13: We need to move.

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Speaker 12: I support the measles vaccine. I support the polio vaccine.

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Speaker 12: I will do nothing as HH as secretary that makes

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Speaker 12: it difficult or discourages people.

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Speaker 15: From taking Anybody who believes that on a look at

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Speaker 15: the Measles book. You wrote saying parents have been misled

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Speaker 15: into believing that measles is a deadly disease.

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Speaker 3: That's not true.

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Speaker 14: We need to move on, Senator Grassley.

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Speaker 9: Welcome. I'm going to let's take it back. Grassley could

681
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Speaker 9: get insturing. We'll check in there in a second. Widen

682
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Speaker 9: is providing air cover right now for Big Pharma. This

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Speaker 9: is why I think in this town, as I say,

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Speaker 9: Republicans and Democrats, the labels mean nothing. Either a populist

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Speaker 9: nationalists or you're a globalist elite. Either believe in America

686
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Speaker 9: first Americans so this is first, or you're a neoliberal

687
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Speaker 9: New yorkn two sides of the same coin. Who's coming

688
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Speaker 9: after Bobby Kennedy today is in defending Big Pharma. Is

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Speaker 9: the Murdoch Enterprise, particularly the Wall Street Journal, Paul Jujo

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Speaker 9: and these guys are off the chain and coming after

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Speaker 9: Bobby Kennedy. Now you just see right there Widen with

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Speaker 9: softball and is kind of opening and he's getting lit

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Speaker 9: up still in social Media's getting lit up as a

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Speaker 9: defender of and this is the Democrat, this is the

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Speaker 9: ranking member. He's getting lit up as a defender of

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Speaker 9: the of Big Pharma and Bobby Kennedy. And this is

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Speaker 9: one of the things we want to make sure that

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Speaker 9: everybody understands, because these hearings provide two things. If you

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Speaker 9: want to do a blocking number one excuse me, you can.

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Speaker 9: You can vote them down and because of your efforts,

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Speaker 9: that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen,

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Speaker 9: or you can get them off. The one or two

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Speaker 9: things is what we asked Ran Paul, the one or

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Speaker 9: two big things that you want to accomplish. Let's go

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Speaker 9: back in time to Matt Gates. Remember the day that

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Speaker 9: Matt Gates went.

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Speaker 1: To Capitol Hill with JD.

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Speaker 9: Vance and they walked around amid certain senators and then

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Speaker 9: later in the day it was leaked that Matt Gates

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Speaker 9: had to promise what not to go after MSNBC, not

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Speaker 9: to go after Fauci, not to go after the you know,

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Speaker 9: the people came with the president. He had committed this

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Speaker 9: in the room. Now I didn't believe it, but you

714
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Speaker 9: can see what's already happening. They want to box in.

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Speaker 9: If they can't defeat a Trump nominee, they want to

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Speaker 9: box it in. They want to box it in, and

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Speaker 9: that's what you're seeing right now, get the force Bobby

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Speaker 9: Kennedy say, I support the Polario vaccine, I support the

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Speaker 9: measles vaccine. I'm not making I'm not a pinting whether

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Speaker 9: that's right or wrong or not. I'm telling you the

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Speaker 9: kind of statics and dynamics of how these things work.

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Speaker 9: They actually believe, ladies and gentlemen, that they can defeat

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Speaker 9: Bobby Kennedy. There was a time they thought some Democrats

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Speaker 9: might vote for him. But I think right now they

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Speaker 9: think the minimum shifted back. They think that they think

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Speaker 9: it's shifted back to Actually, this thing could be a

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Speaker 9: coin flip. And so this is all about performance of

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Speaker 9: Bobby Kennedy did today and going through this and this

729
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Speaker 9: could be a tough one. Of course, a lot of

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Speaker 9: the war, some of the war, and Posse's already in

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Speaker 9: the room. There was a huge line outside today and

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Speaker 9: Claire Duley, the great filmmakers out there doing interviews. Children's

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Speaker 9: Health Defense was out there, Mary Holland, who's the president.

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Speaker 9: They were out doing interviews of people in the crowd

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Speaker 9: in the line, tons of supporters, but you can tell

736
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Speaker 9: there's some non supporters also in there. I think some people,

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Speaker 9: maybe even a little even farther and more of a

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Speaker 9: disruptor than Kennedy. Going to get both type of disruptors.

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Speaker 9: Like I said, we will go back to all the

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Speaker 9: Democrat questions because that's where the meat and assustance is

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Speaker 9: going to be. Just to put into perspective, we try

742
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Speaker 9: to get Senator Tubberville in here. Momentarily, don't know if

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Speaker 9: we're going to be able to pull that off, and

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Speaker 9: not particularly where the hearings going. Carrie Lake, I think

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Speaker 9: we're going to bump he this afternoon. We're going to

746
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Speaker 9: go to the White House live for Natalie. So much

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Speaker 9: going on overnight. So this two memos came out yesterday

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Speaker 9: in the deconstruction the Ministry State Number one was this, Hey,

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Speaker 9: we're stopping all funds flow until we get a handle

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Speaker 9: around it.

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Speaker 1: I believe this came.

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Speaker 9: Because if you SAWSA, the executive orders are executive actions.

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Speaker 9: President's Trump's taken the last forty eight seventy two hours

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Speaker 9: about usaid about who things that are very high in

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Speaker 9: the war room, Posse's agenda right of shutting down and

756
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Speaker 9: making sure they're gone. There would be reports afterwards, things

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Speaker 9: like EPA and the Green New Deal, and we showed

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Speaker 9: you that headlined from the Financial Times last week to

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Speaker 9: talk about three hundred billion dollars. Remember that quote unquote

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Speaker 9: carved back by President Trump or impounded Remember the word impoundment.

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Speaker 9: Write that one down because that's going to be a major,

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Speaker 9: major issue. This is where Congress has authorized it, right

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Speaker 9: appropriated if you remember appropriations as a law. They were

764
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Speaker 9: appropriated money. But the theory of the case is that's

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Speaker 9: the ceiling, not the floor. That's the ceiling and not

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Speaker 9: even a hard target that you can the president by

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Speaker 9: executive action carve back on that. That is quite controversial.

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Speaker 9: I think that that might actually go to the Supreme

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Speaker 9: Court if the opposition can find can get standing. So

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Speaker 9: what happens over the last seventy two hours was two things.

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Speaker 9: Number One, they put out basically a O ANDB directive

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Speaker 9: to say full stop, no transfers, no grants, and essentially

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Speaker 9: how everything in the government is essentially financed except stuff

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Speaker 9: that's direct and there was a firestorm. I believe this

775
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Speaker 9: exercise was to show where the money's going. But also

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Speaker 9: with the feedback you saw last night, a particularly MSMEBC.

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Speaker 9: They go through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of programs

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Speaker 9: and people starting a question we fund all this because remember,

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Speaker 9: to deconstruct the Ministry of State and particularly to cut spending,

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Speaker 9: which dose has to do with O and B. You're

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Speaker 9: going to have a fight and you're going to have

782
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Speaker 9: to have an unpleasant conversation. You're not going to this

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Speaker 9: discretionary spending and even the medicaid spending hasn't gotten where

784
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Speaker 9: it's gotten without the both parties being being you know,

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Speaker 9: cool with it. This is the controlled opposition of the

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Speaker 9: Republican Party, so this will part of it was I

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Speaker 9: think to expose that a federal judge and Obama appointing

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Speaker 9: one of the most radical judges in the DC circuit,

789
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Speaker 9: and you know how bad they are given J six,

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Speaker 9: She's put a temporary restraining or stay on this until Monday,

791
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Speaker 9: when both sides are going to get in there and

792
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Speaker 9: argue it. Although I think she even said, hey, I

793
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Speaker 9: got to see some specific damages from potential plaintiffs to

794
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Speaker 9: see if this is just not government action. Now the

795
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Speaker 9: case that other people making say, hey, Johnson, this is

796
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Speaker 9: all in the cr that you just kind of that

797
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Speaker 9: you just kicked the can down the road. This is

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Speaker 9: a Republican House. The speaker what's your beef. You're Republicans,

799
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Speaker 9: your guys, you're telling that it doesn't know you know

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Speaker 9: where the money's going. This is the heart of the matter.

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Speaker 9: This also gets back to this theory of the unified executive.

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Speaker 9: You've got the he's the chief executive officer, he's the

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Speaker 9: commander in chief. He's also wait for it, the chief

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Speaker 9: magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer. So you'll give

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Speaker 9: me a heads up when Bobby's when Bobby's back with

806
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Speaker 9: the Democrat. So the question with Trump is, hey, I

807
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Speaker 9: see where that Let yes, I see where the appropriations

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Speaker 9: bill is.

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Speaker 1: I see where this has gone.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't mean that we're not going to think through

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Speaker 9: how we cut this from the executive branch point of view.

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Speaker 1: And we've got O and B. That's why.

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Speaker 9: And remember please, this is why RUSS vote is so important.

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Speaker 9: Now RUSS vote has not been confirmed. This gets back

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Speaker 9: to our situation with Thune. The numbers two zero two

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Speaker 9: two two four three one two one. Today you can

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Speaker 9: take two actions. Number one, call John Thune's office, allow

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Speaker 9: his staff to know that it's quite important that we expedite.

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Speaker 9: We expedite the hearings and we have the votes at

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Speaker 9: a committee, we break cloachure and we get to the

821
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Speaker 9: floor that it's taken too long to get Pam BONDI

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Speaker 9: is too long for russ vote.

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Speaker 1: Did we don't want to.

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Speaker 9: Wait for cash Mattel or Tulsa Gabert, particularly Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: We got to get on with it.

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Speaker 9: It's only a handful of people have been only a

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Speaker 9: handful of people have been have been approved.

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Speaker 1: So we got to get on with that.

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Speaker 9: So two zero two two two four three one two one,

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Speaker 9: make sure you call a thune and be polite but firm.

831
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Speaker 9: We got to get on with this. And people should

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Speaker 9: be working all night. I don't know whether they knocking

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Speaker 9: off over there. I don't know whether they're not working

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Speaker 9: all weekends. You know this was committed to the present

835
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Speaker 9: where you get these and we and you know Trump

836
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Speaker 9: right now is all gas, no break, It's all pedal,

837
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Speaker 9: no break, as it should be.

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Speaker 1: So that's number one.

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Speaker 9: This was huge, right. Could have been done a little tighter,

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Speaker 9: hey maybe, but you know people are rolling hard. There's

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Speaker 9: like I said, there's a dozen major things every day.

842
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Speaker 9: It's flood the zone. You don't want the enemy the people.

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Speaker 9: The mainstream media cannot get a grip on this. They

844
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Speaker 9: came in. There's a half a dozen, I said yesterday,

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Speaker 9: half a dozen to ten things. Every day they get

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Speaker 9: a blip in, they get a blip on the Associated Press,

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Speaker 9: they get a blip on the hill. But nobody even

848
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Speaker 9: does any in depth research because there's just too much.

849
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Speaker 9: They're too overwhelmed. The of course, and the other thing

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Speaker 9: big they besides the seventeen inspector generals in the one

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Speaker 9: hundred and sixty detail, he's getting sent home all types

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Speaker 9: of structural things. Then last night, I know the bomb

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Speaker 9: and I believe this is coming from the dough. So

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Speaker 9: one was on b right, working with Stephen Miller, and

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Speaker 9: what I will do. Bobby's still fill orbustering. We haven't

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Speaker 9: gotten to the we haven't gotten too A Democrat, I

857
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Speaker 9: love Bob. Bobby's gonna fillibuster a hell out of this thing. Right.

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Speaker 9: It's cornying, Yeah don't, I don't. It's corner. It's fine.

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Speaker 9: He's a down in Texas. Corn is gonna have a

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Speaker 9: big issue in this in this ree elect of the

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Speaker 9: grassroots down there. They got corn and target. The other

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Speaker 9: big thing this came from dough So one came from

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Speaker 9: omenb and this was massive, the massive that hey, stop

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Speaker 9: all the three training. We want to see where all

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Speaker 9: the money is. People are shocked. I think the President's

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Speaker 9: shocked about every program, every funding, all the NGOs. I've

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Speaker 9: got it up on Getter. I think I give it

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Speaker 9: to Natalie. I think Alex Shuon's put it up too.

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Speaker 9: There's an amazing like infographic of the thousands and thousands

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Speaker 9: of NGOs that are all supported by this. Remember it's

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Speaker 9: a racket, it's a total racket. So part of that

872
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Speaker 9: was a learning exercise. Number two, the other big one,

873
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Speaker 9: and this came I think from the doge guys. This

874
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Speaker 9: is another blockbuster. They kind of put the They put

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Speaker 9: the administrative state on notice. They said, hey, you got

876
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Speaker 9: a date to return to the office to come back.

877
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Speaker 9: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two, we're going to give.

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Speaker 9: Every ployee an option by I think, I think it's

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Speaker 9: February eighth. Today's January twenty eighth, yesterday, By February eighth,

881
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 9: we need you to make a decision if you want

882
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Speaker 9: to stick around. There's a new sheriff in town, to

883
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Speaker 9: be new rules and regulations. You've got to work from office,

884
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Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Or you can take

885
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Speaker 9: a buyout. Now. A buyout is people and media companies

886
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Speaker 9: know this buyout, particularly restructurings or turnarounds or like in

887
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Speaker 9: a failing company, like most media companies today, mainstream media,

888
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Speaker 9: they offer buyouts which really they give a Okay, I'm

889
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Speaker 9: gonna get back to this. Let's go back to the

890
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Speaker 9: center floor. Bobby can take another incoming from a Democrat.

891
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Speaker 7: La this morning here in the US Senate, and this

892
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Speaker 7: committee is being asked to fulfill a really important responsibility,

893
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Speaker 7: which is to decide whether to confirm mister Kennedy to

894
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Speaker 7: one of the most important healthcare jobs in America. And

895
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Speaker 7: the reason I think it's so important is for many

896
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Speaker 7: of the reasons you said in your opening statement, which

897
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Speaker 7: is that we live in the richest country in the world,

898
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Speaker 7: and we have some of the worst health outcomes of

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Speaker 7: any industrialized country in the world. We live in the

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Speaker 7: richest country in the world, and we have some of

901
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Speaker 7: the lowest expect health life expectancy rates of anybody in

902
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Speaker 7: the industrialized world. I was a school superintendent before I

903
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Speaker 7: was in this job, mister Chairman, and I can tell

904
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Speaker 7: you that mister Kennedy's right. You know that when I

905
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Speaker 7: look at the kids in the Denver public schools, if

906
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Speaker 7: we don't change the way we eat in this country,

907
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Speaker 7: forty percent of them are going to suffer adult onside

908
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Speaker 7: adult diabetes as a result of their diet.

909
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Speaker 8: There. And we're, as I.

910
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Speaker 7: Said, spending more than any other country in the world,

911
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Speaker 7: and our families, every single person's constituents in this Senate

912
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Speaker 7: are facing chronic shortage.

913
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Speaker 8: Is when it comes to healthcare.

914
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Speaker 7: My friend from Texas, Senator Cornyn has been a champion

915
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Speaker 7: on mental health care. We have an epidemic, as he knows,

916
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Speaker 7: across this country in mental health care, partly because of

917
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Speaker 7: what the massive social media platforms that we're sitting behind

918
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Speaker 7: the President of the United States have inflicted in our

919
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Speaker 7: children for their profit in the last decade or so.

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Speaker 3: So we have no.

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Speaker 7: Shortage of challenges to confront, and I even agree with

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Speaker 7: some of the diagnosis of.

923
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Speaker 8: Mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 7: What is so disturbing to me is that out of

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Speaker 7: three hundred and thirty million Americans, we're being asked to

926
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Speaker 7: put somebody in this job who has spent fifty years

927
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Speaker 7: of his life not honoring the tradition that he talked

928
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Speaker 7: about at the beginning of this conversation. But pedling in

929
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Speaker 7: half truth, pedling in false statements, pedaling in theories that

930
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Speaker 7: you know create doubt about whether or not things that

931
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Speaker 7: we know are safe are unsaved. Not that every vaccine

932
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Speaker 7: and America is unsafe, not that you can't possibly have

933
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Speaker 7: an adverse reaction, but that parents and children in my

934
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Speaker 7: old school district and school districts all this country would

935
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Speaker 7: be better off not getting vaccinated than getting vaccinated, unlike

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Speaker 7: his own children who were vaccinated, Unlike the people he

937
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Speaker 7: invited to his house in Los Angeles for their party

938
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Speaker 7: who were vaccinated. For everybody else, it's about peddling. These

939
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Speaker 7: have truths, and he says it with such conviction that

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Speaker 7: you want to believe him. And mister Kennedy, I just

941
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Speaker 7: have some There are many many things in the record,

942
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Speaker 7: But I hope that you could answer these questions yes

943
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Speaker 7: or no. I've tried to ask these a manner that's

944
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Speaker 7: faithful to what you actually said, because I didn't want

945
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Speaker 7: to have a debate about whether you actually said them.

946
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Speaker 8: So I'm asking you yes or no.

947
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Speaker 7: Mister Kennedy, did you say that COVID nineteen was a

948
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Speaker 7: genetically engineered bioweapon, the targets black and white people, but

949
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Speaker 7: spared Ashkenazi, Jews and Chinese people.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say it was deliberately targeted.

951
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Speaker 12: I just I just quoted an NIH funded, an NI AGE.

952
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Speaker 6: Published study.

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Speaker 7: Did you say that it targets black and white people

954
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Speaker 7: but spared.

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Speaker 12: I quoted a study. I quoted an AGE study that

956
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Speaker 12: show I take that as a race.

957
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Speaker 6: I have to move on.

958
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Speaker 3: I have to move on.

959
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Speaker 8: Did you say that lime disease is.

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Speaker 7: Highly likely a materially engineered bioweapon?

961
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Speaker 8: I made sure I put in the highly likely.

962
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Speaker 7: Did you say lime disease is a highly likely militarily

963
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Speaker 7: engineered bioweapon?

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Speaker 6: I probably did say that.

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Speaker 8: Did you say that that's developer. I've wan all of our.

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Speaker 7: Colleagues to hear mister Kennedy, I want them to hear it.

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Speaker 7: You said yes. Did you say that exposure to pesticize

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Speaker 7: causes children to become transgender?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 6: I never said that.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I have the record that I'll give to the

972
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Speaker 7: chairman and he can make his judgment about what you said.

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Speaker 7: Did you write in your book and it's undeniable that

974
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Speaker 7: African AIDS is an entirely different disease from Western AIDS.

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Speaker 8: Yes or no, mister Kennedy, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 7: If I may, I'll give it to the chairman, mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 7: In my final question, did you say on a podcast

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Speaker 7: and I quote, I wouldn't leave it abortion to the States.

979
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Speaker 7: My belief is we should leave it to the woman.

980
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Speaker 7: We shouldn't have the government involved, even if it's full term.

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Speaker 8: Did you say that, mister Senator.

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Speaker 6: I believe that every abortion is a tragedy.

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Speaker 8: Did you say it, mister Kennedy. It just matters.

984
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Speaker 7: It doesn't matter what you come here and say. That

985
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Speaker 7: isn't true, that's not reflective of what you really believe

986
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Speaker 7: that you haven't said over decade after decade after decade,

987
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Speaker 7: Because unlike other jobs we're confirming around this place, this

988
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Speaker 7: is a job where it is life and death for

989
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Speaker 7: the kids that I used to work for in the

990
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Speaker 7: Denver public schools and for families all over this country

991
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Speaker 7: that are suffering from living in the richest country of

992
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Speaker 7: the world that can't deliver basic health care and basic

993
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Speaker 7: mental health care to them. It's too important for the

994
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Speaker 7: games that you're playing, mister Kennedy.

995
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Speaker 8: And I hope my colleagues will say to the President.

996
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Speaker 8: I have no influence over him.

997
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Speaker 7: I hope my colleagues will say to the President, out

998
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Speaker 7: of three hundred and thirty million Americans, we can do

999
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Speaker 7: better than this.

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Speaker 13: Thank you. We need to move on, Senator Cassidy.

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Speaker 16: Mister Kennedy, President Trump has sworn to protect Medicare. Republicans

1002
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Speaker 16: are exploring reforms to Medicaid that could help pay for

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Speaker 16: Trump administration priorities. With this context, what will you do

1004
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 16: about dual eligibles? About dual eligibles.

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Speaker 12: Well, due eligibles are not right now served very well

1006
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Speaker 12: into the system. Those are people who are eligible for

1007
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Speaker 12: both Medicaid and Medicare, and you know the the I

1008
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Speaker 12: suppose my answer to that is to make sure that

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Speaker 12: the that the programs are consolidated, that they're integrated, and

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Speaker 12: the care is integrated. I look forward to working with you,

1011
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Speaker 12: doctor Cassidy on making sure that we take good care

1012
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Speaker 12: of people.

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Speaker 16: Who and how would we How do you propose that

1014
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Speaker 16: we integrate those programs? Does Medicare pay more, Medicare pay lists,

1015
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Speaker 16: Medicaid pay more Medicaid pay lists?

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Speaker 8: How do we do that?

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Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 12: The I'm not exactly sure because I'm not in there.

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Speaker 12: I mean it is difficult to integrate them because Medicaid

1020
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Speaker 12: is medical cares under a fee for service, is paid

1021
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Speaker 12: for by employer taxes. Medicaid is as is fully paid

1022
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Speaker 12: for federal government, and it's not fever services. So it's

1023
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Speaker 12: I don't I do not know the answer to that.

1024
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Speaker 12: I look forward to exploring options with you.

1025
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Speaker 16: Republicans again are looking at ways to potentially reform Medicaid

1026
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Speaker 16: to help you pay for President Trump's priorities, but to

1027
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Speaker 16: improve outcomes. What thoughts do you have regarding Medicaid reform.

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Speaker 12: Well, Medicaid is not working for Americans, and it's specifically

1029
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Speaker 12: not working or the target population most Americans, like myself,

1030
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Speaker 12: I'm on Medicare advantage and I'm very happy with it.

1031
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 12: Most people who are un Medicaid are not happy. The

1032
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 12: premiums are too high, the deductibles are too high, the

1033
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 12: networks are narrow, the best doctors will not accept it

1034
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Speaker 12: in the best hospitals, and particularly Medicaid was originally designed

1035
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Speaker 12: for a target population, the poorest Americans. It's now been

1036
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Speaker 12: dramatically expanded, and the irony of the expansion is that

1037
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Speaker 12: the poorest Americans are now being robbed their services. Is

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Speaker 12: a dramatically decrease. Even though we've increased the price of

1039
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Speaker 12: Medicare by sixty percent of the last four years, the

1040
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Speaker 12: target population is being robbed with other options.

1041
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Speaker 16: Obviously you've thought about that, and I appreciate that. What

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 16: reforms do you recommend again that would improve services, I suppose,

1043
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 16: but also make it more cost efficient.

1044
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Speaker 12: President Trump has given me the charge of improving quality

1045
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Speaker 12: of care and lewering the price of care for all Americans.

1046
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Speaker 12: There are many things that we can do. I mean,

1047
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Speaker 12: what we want to the ultimate outcome, I think is

1048
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 12: to increase transparency, to increase accountability, and to transition to

1049
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 12: a to a value based.

1050
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Speaker 6: System rather than a fee based system, so.

1051
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Speaker 16: A metal a service base or Medicaid in particular. Can

1052
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Speaker 16: you just kind of take take those kind of general

1053
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Speaker 16: principles and apply it to the Medicaid program?

1054
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Speaker 12: You know, I listen, I think that there is there

1055
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Speaker 12: are many many options with telemedicine with AI right now,

1056
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Speaker 12: and you know there's a including direct primary care systems

1057
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Speaker 12: or seeing that movement grow across the country, there is

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Speaker 12: a one of the largest so.

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Speaker 16: So knowing so going back to Medicaid though, and speaking

1060
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Speaker 16: of these specific advances, how would you what reforms are

1061
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Speaker 16: you proposing with these ideas VISA v Medicaid.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't have a broad proposal for dismantling the program,

1063
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Speaker 6: and let's say, of course not saying that.

1064
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Speaker 12: I think what we need to do is we need

1065
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 12: to experiment with pilot programs each state. We need to

1066
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Speaker 12: keep our eye on the ultimate goal, which is value

1067
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 12: based care, which is transparency, accountability, access.

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Speaker 16: And one more thing, going back to medicare you mentioned

1069
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Speaker 16: you're an MA. You mentioned earlier the Medicare fee for service.

1070
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Speaker 16: Do you have any kind of thoughts as to whether

1071
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 16: or not patients on fee for service should move into

1072
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 16: MA or how should we handle that?

1073
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Speaker 6: Whether patients who are on Medicare fee for traditional medicare, Yes,

1074
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 6: that's their choice right now.

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Speaker 12: I mean have I think thirty two million Americas are

1076
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Speaker 12: thirty million Americans on Medicare on traditional Medicare, and then

1077
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Speaker 12: another thirty four or thirty.

1078
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Speaker 6: Four on Medicare advantage, roughly half and a half. And

1079
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Speaker 6: I think more people.

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Speaker 12: Would rather be on Medicare advantage because it offers very

1081
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Speaker 12: good services.

1082
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Speaker 6: People can't afford it. It's much more expensive.

1083
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 12: Oh, in answer to your first question, there you know

1084
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 12: there's there are all kinds of exciting things that we

1085
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 12: can be doing, including cooperatives, which as a Trump is supported,

1086
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Speaker 12: including health savings accounts which President Trump is supported. All

1087
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 12: of these things to make people more accountable for their

1088
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Speaker 12: own health.

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Speaker 16: And so would bring the cooperatives and the health savings

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Speaker 16: accounts into Medicare and Medicaid exactly.

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Speaker 6: We try to we try to increase those.

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Speaker 12: The use of those, and to direct primary care to

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Speaker 12: to continue to transition into a value based program that is.

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Speaker 6: That is private.

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Speaker 12: Americans don't Americans don't buy and large don't.

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Speaker 6: Do not like the Affordable Care Act. People are on it.

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Speaker 12: They don't like Medicaid, they like Medicare, and they like

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Speaker 12: private insurance. We need to listen to what people they

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Speaker 12: would prefer to be.

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Speaker 6: On private assurance.

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Speaker 12: Most Americans, if they can afford to be, will be

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Speaker 12: on private assurance. We need to figure out ways to

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Speaker 12: improve care, particularly for elderly, for veterans, for the poor

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Speaker 12: in this country, and medicaid. The current model is not

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Speaker 12: doing that. I would ask you know, any of the

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Speaker 12: Democrats who are chuckling just now, do you think all

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Speaker 12: that money, the nine hundred billion dollars that we're sending

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Speaker 12: to medicaid every year has made Americans healthy?

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Speaker 6: Do we think it's working for anybody? Are the premiums

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Speaker 6: low enough?

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Speaker 13: We do need to move on, Senator Warner, Well, I gotta.

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Speaker 17: Tell you, for literally hundreds of thousands of Virginia, Medicaid

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Speaker 17: is what prevents them from health crisis is on a

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Speaker 17: daily and weekly basis and some imaginary new plan. And

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Speaker 17: if there was a new plan that was to be

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Speaker 17: the basis of what Trump was going to do in

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Speaker 17: repealing Obamacare, I would.

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Speaker 8: Have thought by now we've seen it.

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Speaker 17: I gotta tell you, mister Kennedy, I got questions.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate our visit.

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Speaker 16: I know you.

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Speaker 17: Take your views seriously, and I don't reflectively vote. I

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Speaker 17: voted for four of President Trump's nominees. Already got a

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Speaker 17: lot of grief from folks on this panel. But I

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Speaker 17: got to tell you, I saw an email that you

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Speaker 17: put out Monday night or your campaigned it, and a

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Speaker 17: funding fundraising email your presidential campaigns celebrated that the freeze

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Speaker 17: on all new regulations, guidance, and announcements is a way

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Speaker 17: to protect unelected bureaucrats from further undermining our health freedom

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Speaker 17: then you ask your donors to help pay for your

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Speaker 17: campaign debt did your campaign and you put.

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Speaker 6: Out that I don't think my campaign exists anymore.

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Speaker 17: Well, listen, I got to tell you this. Somebody is

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Speaker 17: out there solicting the money for it. Maybe you ought

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Speaker 17: to find out who is. So the fact that you

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Speaker 17: celebrate this freeze, do you think that was a good

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Speaker 17: idea to put all of this on hold for ninety

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Speaker 17: days funding and any kind of further work in I research.

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Speaker 6: As as Chairman Crape.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I'm not asking for I love Mike crap I'm

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Speaker 17: asking you.

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Speaker 6: You're a very very important position.

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Speaker 12: As he pointed out, Senator, the point were closed. We're

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Speaker 12: not closed as a result of the trumpet. Let me

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Speaker 12: just tell you I'd like to excuse me, sir.

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Speaker 17: I'd like you to explain to a domestic violence center

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Speaker 17: in Richmond that's saying because this freeze, they may have

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Speaker 17: to close down where those battered women go, or a

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Speaker 17: reural nonprofit. I've gotten the Shino value saying that freeze

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Speaker 17: going to potentially shut down their ability to operate. So

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Speaker 17: I don't I guess if you deny or don't know

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Speaker 17: what your campaign's sending on you don't know if you

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Speaker 17: raise a lot of money. Monday Night with you, I'm

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Speaker 17: saying that the Trump you don't know, you don't know

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Speaker 17: as you raise a lot of money.

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Speaker 12: The Trump administration has made clear and it does not

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Speaker 12: want to freeze benefits for any Americas under Medicare Medicare,

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Speaker 12: and I do not want.

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Speaker 17: The medic freeze is affecting beyond Medicare and Social Security.

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Speaker 3: I would hope you would have known that.

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Speaker 6: To be able to answer some of this.

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Speaker 17: Now you've said publicly you want to immediately get rid

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Speaker 17: of six hundred.

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Speaker 6: NIH workers on job one.

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Speaker 17: On day one when we had our meeting, you said

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Speaker 17: you actually like to get rid of twenty two hundred

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Speaker 17: people from HHS. Which offices are you going to start

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Speaker 17: cutting and riffing these twenty two hundred workers from?

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Speaker 12: There's two hundred political appointees are changed during every.

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Speaker 17: Event, So if you got rid of those two under

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Speaker 17: political pointees, you're not going to replace them with your

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Speaker 17: political appointees.

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Speaker 12: Well, President Biden, this year changes three thousand employees at AHHS,

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Speaker 12: three thousand, seven hundred and fifty and you're.

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Speaker 17: Twenty two hundred.

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Speaker 6: What departments are you going to pick.

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Speaker 12: Them from well, the same as President Biden did when

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Speaker 12: he changed three thousand out.

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Speaker 3: Us on down to a minute thirty.

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Speaker 17: The Chairman has been generous with colleagues on both sides

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Speaker 17: and may have to go a couple of minutes over.

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Speaker 17: But let me just say so, let's just answer. This

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Speaker 17: would be this hope, since you're asking to become the

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Speaker 17: top healthcare official in the United States and termed HHS

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Speaker 17: huge ramifications, and part of this job is to be

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Speaker 17: the senior advisor of the president on health issues.

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Speaker 6: So when we're looking.

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Speaker 17: At this purge and we're looking at laying off workers,

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Speaker 17: when we're looking at potentially the president's illegal offer to

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Speaker 17: try to buy out federal employees, which I would say

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Speaker 17: to any federal employe.

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Speaker 6: Think twice.

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Speaker 8: Has this individual in his business.

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Speaker 17: World ever fulfilled his contracts or obligations.

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Speaker 6: To any workers in the past.

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Speaker 17: But if you are in this position, will you pledge

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Speaker 17: that you will not fire federal employees who work on

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Speaker 17: food safety, work on trying and preventing things like SALOMONO.

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Speaker 6: They're ninety one thousand employees, So that I take that as.

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Speaker 4: I take it.

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Speaker 17: That's a simple yestion, and I'm going to take that

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Speaker 17: as a run, and that I take that as a

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Speaker 17: will you.

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Speaker 6: Actually we talked.

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Speaker 17: About protecting Americans from cyber criminals, something we need to

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Speaker 17: do a lot more on. Will you commit not to

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Speaker 17: fire anyone in the health arena who currently works on

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Speaker 17: protecting Americans from cyber attacks in their healthcare files?

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Speaker 12: I will. I will commit not firing anybody who's doing

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Speaker 12: their job.

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Speaker 17: Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your

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Speaker 17: political legenda, or mister Trump's.

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Speaker 6: Based upon my opinion.

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Speaker 17: I guess that means a lot of the folks who've

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Speaker 17: had any type of views on vaccines will be out

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Speaker 17: of work. Will you freeze grant funding for.

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Speaker 6: Community health centers?

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Speaker 9: Will you freeze.

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Speaker 17: Federal funds for community health centers? The way the current adminstrations.

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Speaker 12: The White House has made clear and no funds are

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Speaker 12: going to be denied to any American for benefits?

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Speaker 6: Listen to any program. Do you know what happens at

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Speaker 6: community health centers?

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Speaker 5: Those are direct?

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Speaker 6: Are you talking about the Indian health centers?

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Speaker 17: Now, I'm talking about community health centers across the country.

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Speaker 6: I understand that.

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Speaker 17: I mean, so you're going to excuse Indian health centers,

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Speaker 17: which is good, but others are not.

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Speaker 6: They're going to get their funds frozen.

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Speaker 12: I strongly support community health centers, as does the President.

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Speaker 17: So does that mean you're not going to freeze the

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Speaker 17: funding that.

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Speaker 6: Is currently frozen.

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Speaker 12: The White House done phase it clear that none of

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Speaker 12: that funding is supposed to be frozen, sir.

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Speaker 17: The direct payments are different than how the government operates.

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Speaker 3: We fund the federal government.

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Speaker 17: Down to community health centers. As a former governor, there's

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Speaker 17: lots and lots of state programs that are related to

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Speaker 17: healthcare that come from the federal government. They come down

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Speaker 17: to the state, then it goes to local programs. All

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Speaker 17: of those don't directly pay out a dollar at a time,

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Speaker 17: but they come from federal funding.

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Speaker 6: They are all, you know.

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Speaker 17: Even though they keep changing the guidance on a minute

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Speaker 17: by minute basis, based upon nine forty five or ten

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Speaker 17: thirty or ten forty five, whatever time it is today,

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Speaker 17: those funds are still frozen, sir. I just honestly, I

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Speaker 17: want to give you a fair shot, but I don't

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Speaker 17: feel like I don't feel like you approach this job

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Speaker 17: with the knowledge and candidly your willingness, not willingness not

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Speaker 17: to commit, try to recommend to the President to make

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Speaker 17: sure these funds are unfrozen and that people's lives were

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Speaker 17: at stake is a very disappointing answer.

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Speaker 6: Teams to Chairman.

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Speaker 18: Senator Lankford, Chairman, thank you. Skenny's good to see again.

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Speaker 18: We had some great visits in my office. We've done

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Speaker 18: some follow up calls to be able to go through.

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Speaker 18: You and I have talked about one hundred different issues

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Speaker 18: and backgrounds and things. You've been able to address a

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Speaker 18: lot of them today, and just different questions to be

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Speaker 18: able to clear up social media rumors and the things

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Speaker 18: that are out there on it. So I do appreciate

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Speaker 18: that we've talked about pharmacy benefit managers. We've talked about

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Speaker 18: the Nursing Home Rule Biden administration put down. We talked

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Speaker 18: about views on agriculture and commercial and row crop agriculture.

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Speaker 18: We've talked about food issues, and you made it very

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Speaker 18: very clear you're not going to tell Americans what to eat,

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Speaker 18: but you do want Americans to know what they're eating,

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Speaker 18: and I think that's a pretty fair perspective on that.

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Speaker 18: I do want to talk to you about some areas

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Speaker 18: that you and I have talked about as well. We

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Speaker 18: have some disagreement you and I on the issue of

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Speaker 18: life and when life begins on that. You've been very

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Speaker 18: outspoken on that, and we've had some good opportunities to

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Speaker 18: be able to talk about that. Title ten is specifically

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Speaker 18: in the AHHS area. This has been an area that

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Speaker 18: has been interpreted for a long time, and President Trump

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Speaker 18: in the first administration interpreted that rule to say that

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Speaker 18: his administration will prohibit the performance referral for promotion of

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Speaker 18: abortion as a part of the Title ten program. That

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Speaker 18: he made that very clear in the first administration. Obviously,

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Speaker 18: that's his decision to make again on that on how

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Speaker 18: I want to handle that, and he's made a lot

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Speaker 18: of public statements on that. The Biden administration not only

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Speaker 18: reversed that and only rescinded that rule, but they went

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Speaker 18: one step the other direction. In my state in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 18: as you and I have talked about, the Biden administration

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Speaker 18: cut off funding to the state of Oklahoma for AIDS testing,

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Speaker 18: for breast cancer screening, and for other areas of poverty

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Speaker 18: healthcare because my state didn't promote abortion. It wouldn't provide

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Speaker 18: if my state wouldn't promote abortion in the state, we

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Speaker 18: got cut off for federal funds for AIDS testing and

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Speaker 18: for other things. My simple question to you is, how

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Speaker 18: are you going to handle Title ten on that I

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Speaker 18: saw how President Biden handled that in the punitive measures

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Speaker 18: that came on my state for those that are in

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Speaker 18: rural healthcare. How are you going to handle time.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to support President Trump's policies on Title ten.

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Speaker 12: I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy.

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Speaker 12: I agree with them how we cannot be a moral

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Speaker 12: nation if we have one point two million abortions a here.

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Speaker 12: I agree with him that the states should control abortion.

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Speaker 12: President Trump has told me that he wants to and

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Speaker 12: late term abortions, and he wants to protect conscious exemptions,

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Speaker 12: and that he wants to and federal funding for abortions.

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Speaker 6: Here are abroad. That's Title ten. I'm going to do.

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Speaker 12: I serve at the pleasure of the President. I'm going

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Speaker 12: to implement his policies.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for that.

1312
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Speaker 18: President Biden, when he came in, immediately closed down the

1313
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 18: Office of Civil Rights and Conscience Protections within AHHS. There's

1314
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 18: a statement that's come out recently that he's going to

1315
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 18: reopen that office again to be able to protect the

1316
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 18: civil rights of Americans. One of the things that Javier

1317
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 18: Psara did immediately when he came into AHHS was conscience

1318
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 18: protection for medical professionals that were being compelled against their

1319
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 18: conscience to perform medical procedures that violated their conscience. Javey

1320
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 18: Er Pasera stepped in a mediate at HHS and withdrew

1321
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 18: that and said, no, the federal government will tell you

1322
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 18: what you believe about these issues. You don't have conscience

1323
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 18: protections anymore.

1324
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm here with Senator Tommy Turberville's in the neighborhood

1325
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Speaker 9: drop by. Are you feeling any better? Yeah, yeah, a

1326
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 9: lot better. It's been seven days.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: I think everybody got it going around, bad, bad bad.

1329
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 9: Yeah. I don't want to say it's a Chinese bio weapon,

1330
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 9: but maybe they'll ask to Kennedy that question.

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: First off, your assessment, Bobby Kennedy. They've been coming after

1332
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: him pretty hard this morning.

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 19: Yeah, he got a little angry early, and he probably

1334
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 19: should have and let the Democrats know he's going to

1335
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 19: fight back because he needs to fight back. What do

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01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 19: you mean by that, Well, you know, they're just trying

1337
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 19: to upset him about things that that's not true about

1338
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 19: the vaccine and and you know he's made his statements

1339
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 19: all clear. It's notice he came by and visited you

1340
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 19: one on one. Oh yeah, what was your what's your takeaway?

1341
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 19: It's awesome. And he's doing it for the right reasons.

1342
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 19: What do you mean, Well, I mean he's doing it

1343
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 19: to help and he understands the whole picture. You know,

1344
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 19: he's not going to run the show Steve by stuff.

1345
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 19: He's got four or five people, the CDC director, n

1346
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 19: h all those people, but he'll set the scenario.

1347
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 9: Now.

1348
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 19: I've told my colleagues on the right, the worst mistake

1349
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 19: we would ever make is not confirmed this guy. Because

1350
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 19: he brought millions of young people to the to the

1351
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 19: table for us as Republicans that weren't gonna vote for

1352
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 19: us early. And they believe in health, in the future

1353
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 19: of the country and better food and all those kind

1354
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 19: of things, and so make America healthy. Yeah, that whole

1355
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 19: exactly the whole thing. And look at the guy they

1356
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 19: had the last four years. Most people ninety nine percent

1357
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 19: of the people in the country don't know didn't know

1358
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 19: who the hh S director was for Biden. And he

1359
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 19: was a damn lawyer Okay that lived in California that

1360
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 19: lived there. He didn't even work here. Yeah, so then

1361
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 19: you come back, Yeah, it's undle just took paycheck, so

1362
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 19: didn't make one decision, you know, me being on the

1363
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 19: Health Committee, I think he came one time to hearing

1364
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 19: and was just got awful, you know, just there.

1365
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 9: Was tell the audience, why is the Health Committee not

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01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,879
Speaker 9: the not the organizing committee for HHS.

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 19: Why is he a finance Well, he's in finance and

1368
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 19: it comes to us tomorrow, but they will bring him

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 19: out of committee for some rate.

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 9: Now I've asked that same.

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: Why did I start Health day one and then the

1372
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: Finance deship?

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 19: It should be that, it should be that, but for

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 19: some reason that it was passing the rules in the

1375
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 19: Senate years ago that the Finance would bring out because

1376
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 19: I think there's so much money involved in HHS, so

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 19: they wanted the Finance Committee to have the final say.

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 9: Okay, it's tomorrow going to be just because tomorrow we

1379
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 9: get day two of Bobby, we'll also have Tulsi and

1380
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 9: cash tomorrow's game day.

1381
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, it'll be it'll be non stop tomorrow, and of

1382
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 19: course you'll have the same crazies after after RFK. But

1383
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 19: of course they're after Patel and Telsa big time. I

1384
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 19: mean they are, they're looking for blood.

1385
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 9: Before I get to that, and we'll go back to

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 9: how does a senator from the great state of Alabama,

1387
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 9: I would argue the railhead of MAGA be supportive of

1388
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 9: RFK Junior. A lot of people would say is a

1389
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 9: screaming left wing democrat?

1390
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 19: Well, because of his policies, of of what I told

1391
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 19: you earlier. I've got a thirty or twenty eight year

1392
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 19: old two boys, and this time last year they were

1393
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 19: on RFK side.

1394
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 9: He was still running for president and his.

1395
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 19: Side for president because a podcast, Dad, you have to

1396
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 19: listen to this podcast. You know, quit getting your news

1397
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 19: from some of these newspapers that you read or Fox

1398
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 19: News or.

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01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 9: Seeing in you could see it, then your sons can

1400
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 9: say it.

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 19: You have to start listening to podcasts where people actually

1402
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 19: lay their soul on the line to tell exactly what

1403
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 19: they believe.

1404
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: Who's the Senator. Let's let's cut in for a second

1405
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: in white Let's cut in.

1406
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 9: Let's cut in on Centator white House.

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 20: The question recantation of what you have said on vaccinations,

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 20: including a promise from you never to say vaccines aren't

1409
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 20: medically safe when they in fact are, and making indisputably

1410
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 20: clear that you support mandatory vaccinations against diseases where that

1411
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 20: will keep people safe, You're in that hole pretty deep.

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 9: We've just had a measles case in.

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01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 20: Rhode Island, the first since twenty thirteen, and frankly, you

1414
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 20: frighten people.

1415
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 9: Two.

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01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 20: I want to air harms that Rhode Island has experienced

1417
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 20: from a remorseless, senseless CMS bureaucracy. CMS has four years

1418
01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 20: maintained a reimbursement system that the bureaucracy could never or explain,

1419
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 20: never justify that persistently pays Rhode Island providers less than

1420
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 20: neighboring Massachusetts and Connecticut providers, a differential of twenty three

1421
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 20: and twenty six percent in our regional healthcare market. Depending

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01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 20: a head program can begin to remedy this, at least

1423
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 20: for value based care, and it must. There has to

1424
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 20: be payment parody in the region. Rhode Island's healthcare system

1425
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 20: is bleeding out because we aren't paid what neighboring hospitals

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01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 20: and doctors are paid, and the one act CMS took

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Speaker 20: on this.

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 9: Years ago was to make it worse.

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01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 20: The CMS bureaucracy has also attacked one of the best

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01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 20: accountable care organizations in the country, Rhode Island's Integra Family

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 20: Doctors tried to throw them off the shared Savings program

1432
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 20: because they said Integra years ago briefly fell one hundred

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 20: and thirty seven patients short of the five thousand patients

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01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 20: that acos need.

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 9: We're going to come back with center. Tom wouldn't go

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 9: so as Bobby Kennedy responds, let me know, we'll go

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01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 9: right back to it.

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 19: Don't you just love these dissertations. It's a damn hearing

1439
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 19: asked him a question, let him answer it. They're given

1440
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 19: the question and the answer that it's really unfair, but.

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: They have seven minutes.

1442
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 9: I think of this round and we've been clocking the

1443
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 9: Democrats take about three and a half or four minutes

1444
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 9: on the speech, the mini speech, and position themselves and

1445
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 9: don't give Kennedy any time to answer.

1446
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 19: They have their talking points from big Pharma, and so

1447
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 19: they got to get that in tell in.

1448
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: The old days it was the liberals that were against

1449
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: big pharma.

1450
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 9: This shift. You've seen it here. I keep saying MSNBC

1451
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 9: eighty percent of the ads in primetime are big pharmah

1452
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 9: there would be a test pattern. How big does Big

1453
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 9: Farmer owned the Democrat Party?

1454
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 19: Well, first of all, if we would ban drug advertisements

1455
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 19: on television product like we should, there would be an

1456
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 19: uprising because you have.

1457
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 9: First of you'd have seventy Republican Senate seats they didn't have.

1458
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 9: How far down the road were we to get in

1459
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 9: that past. I'm a huge advocate Bobby Kennedy's that. It's

1460
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 9: been talked about.

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 19: But at the end of the day, you've got you've

1462
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 19: got several on the right that are taking a lot

1463
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 19: of money from big Pharma.

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01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 9: You know, Big Farmer, they owned the lobbyists, the law firms.

1465
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 9: How powerful are they in this hospitals in this city?

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 9: How powerful are they?

1467
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 17: Oh?

1468
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 9: Huge? If you had to rank order, Defense industrial complex,

1469
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 9: big Tech industrial complex from Silicon Valley, and big Pharma

1470
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 9: rank them, what's the what's the most powerful? The second

1471
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 9: of the thing, Big Farmer, Big Farmers number one. And

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 9: there's no doubt because it touches so many people. You know,

1473
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 9: big tech is just now ten years now, we probably

1474
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 9: have a different attitude towards that. But you know, Big

1475
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 9: Farmer touches everything and almost ever committee. You know that

1476
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 9: that's that's gonna have something to do with either drugs

1477
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 9: or medical care. You know, as in a v A

1478
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 9: hearing yesterday about you know, our our veterans and healthcare.

1479
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 9: We spend billions and billions and it's getting worse.

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 10: Uh.

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 9: But you know, do your colleagues ever get on you,

1482
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 9: or leadership ever get on you for being so clean spoken.

1483
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 9: I wouldn't listen to them anyway. Uh, you know, it's

1484
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 9: it is, It is.

1485
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 12: What it is.

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 9: I mean, I I just tell what I see in

1487
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 9: what I hear. So what talk to me about. We're

1488
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 9: going to go back to Bobby Kennedy as soon as

1489
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 9: he's answering when when the dissertation they're gonna have a

1490
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 9: time to answer. Still still asking the question, he's still

1491
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 9: going okay, yeah, okay, Yeah, We'll go right to Taulsie

1492
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 9: and uh and in cash they're obsessed with both of these,

1493
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 9: and Tulsie is supposedly on the bubble, right your thoughts, Yeah, okay,

1494
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 9: let's go to Bobby Kennedy.

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 12: His answer tyrannical, incenseate bureaucracies and stupid roles, and I

1496
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 12: will work with you makes them as responsive to the

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 12: needs of Rhode Island and to remedy those disparities that

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 12: you talk about.

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01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 6: I am familiar with the Integra Health.

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01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 12: Plan and it is a template for what we ought

1501
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 12: to be doing as a value based plan, and I

1502
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 12: look forward to you to making sure that we we

1503
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 12: create pilot programs like this's around the country.

1504
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 20: Unfortunately, mister Chairman, one of the things I've learned in

1505
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 20: my tenure in the Senate is the denominee saying that

1506
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 20: they're willing to work with me amounts to exactly zero.

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01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 9: We need to get this fixed.

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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 13: Thank you, well, I guess at that point then we

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01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 13: will move on to senator dates.

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01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: Miss Chairman, thank you, Bish Kenyon, glad to see you

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01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: here this morning.

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01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 9: Right there, houses was so long. He never got the

1513
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 9: vaccine answer.

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01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 19: No, he just wanted to make the state his narrative

1515
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 19: over and you know he's told pretty much what to say,

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01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 19: and it's pretty much scripted. And the whole side of

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01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 19: the Democrats. We don't get together as Republicans and say, okay,

1518
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 19: what direction do we want to take here?

1519
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 9: Oh you guys don't you don't sit down, the staffs

1520
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 9: don't sit down, or it's all independent.

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 19: All independent talk about your state and what you believe

1522
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 19: in ask the questions pertaining to your state. But you

1523
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 19: can tell Pete Hexseth all orchestrated. Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 9: Well, well they talked, you know, Hexseth, Rubio others came

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 9: out with kind of in their opening statements, and what

1526
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 9: they had was substance Pete's revolutionary military affairs and stealing

1527
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 9: the warrior ethos back into the Pentagon. Rubio at the

1528
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 9: end of the post war international rules based order on

1529
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 9: hexseeth that the herodins didn't ask any questions about that.

1530
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 9: They're attacking him on the personal foibles all day long?

1531
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 9: Was that coordinated and organized one hundred percent?

1532
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Speaker 19: And it was mostly the ladies on the on the

1533
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 19: armed services that went after him personally.

1534
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: And it was why does the Democrats have nine women?

1535
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 9: It seemed like on why they have all the women

1536
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 9: on armed services? What is that about? I couldn't tell you,

1537
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 9: but they do.

1538
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 19: They've got a lot more than Does that strike you

1539
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 19: as a little od Well, yeah, but if you look

1540
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 19: at all them. Duckworth was military, Jillibrand was military. Rosen

1541
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 19: I don't know about her, the young lady from Michigan

1542
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 19: that just got into CIA. Yeah, slacking yeah, so, uh,

1543
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 19: I don't know. You know, it's hard to keep up

1544
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 19: with us.

1545
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 9: What do you think about what did you think about

1546
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 9: their what do you think about their questions? Well, it

1547
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 9: was just a personal attack, you know.

1548
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 19: They wanted to they wanted to make a point of

1549
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 19: can't he do this job with all the personal problems

1550
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 19: that he has? And it was great that his wife

1551
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 19: has stood up with him. It was just unfortunate that

1552
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 19: you know, late in the day before the vote, you know,

1553
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 19: this system runs out with some right, and then the

1554
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 19: sisters said, I don't know what she's talking about. And

1555
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 19: we had one senator I think that was a Republican

1556
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 19: senator was involved in in some of that.

1557
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 9: And so but no, we worked our audience, worked the

1558
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 9: phones on that Friday afternoon because it looked like it

1559
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 9: could be on the bubble right there, right, can you come?

1560
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 9: It came down the last vote. But you asked about

1561
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 9: Patel and but hopefu, I'll go back to Hexas for

1562
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 9: a second. You have been the leader in the Senate

1563
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 9: of saying, hey, this DEI things out of control, the

1564
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 9: war fightings out of control, we don't have to fight anymore.

1565
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 9: You stood in the breach for eighteen months and took

1566
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 9: in cooming. We'd have you in here, man, and the

1567
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 9: people were coming after you hard, the left right. You

1568
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 9: held up everything well abortion right till they were well straight.

1569
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 9: To be straightforward, you were also your observations that you

1570
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 9: were not totally impressed with the quality of what you

1571
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 9: were seeing coming up in field. Great officers, but tell

1572
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 9: me about Hexas is going to get the job done here?

1573
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 9: Are you confident of that?

1574
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 19: That was my first question. We have to have somebody

1575
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 19: closer to the age of the war fighter, somebody that

1576
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 19: has recently been in the war fighting, not somebody that's

1577
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 19: been out of it, and as a general has been

1578
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 19: out of any kind of contact with the recruiting in

1579
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 19: the last thirty years. We have to have new blood,

1580
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 19: new ideas, and he was perfect for that.

1581
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 13: And he is.

1582
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 19: He will speak his peace and he'll tell you what

1583
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 19: he believes in. He's not going to change his mind.

1584
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 19: And I've liked the way he went about going to

1585
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 19: the other senators. Now, he didn't go to a lot

1586
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 19: of Democrats because, as he'll tell you, a lot of

1587
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 19: them wasn't going.

1588
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 9: But anyone, you know, the difficulty in stepping into a

1589
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 9: football program and changing a culture and turnaround, and as

1590
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 9: monument as that is for us.

1591
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: I love college football.

1592
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 9: When you compare it to the Pentagon, it's relatively you know,

1593
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 9: it's it's a certain scale. You're asking Pete hess Hegseth

1594
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 9: right with the lack of organizational ability, you know, training

1595
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 9: to step into the biggest bureacs in the world that

1596
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 9: is adamantly opposed to America First, adamantly opposed to getting

1597
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 9: any control of cost. And you're asking Pete to step

1598
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 9: in and really change around the biggest industrial complex in

1599
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 9: the world to get back to America first policies and warfighters.

1600
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 9: Can he do that? Well? My example was exactly what

1601
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 9: you said, Pete.

1602
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 19: You're going You're taking over a huge football team, and

1603
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 19: right now the Democrats have created such division within ranks transgenders, gays, women.

1604
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 19: You've made some points about that, you're going to have

1605
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 19: to You're going to have to talk your way into

1606
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 19: people trusting you if you're going to get this job.

1607
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,919
Speaker 19: But he understood that he's got to take out the DEEI,

1608
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 19: the woke, the social justice and bring people together that

1609
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 19: it's not about black, white, gays, lesbian It's not about

1610
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 19: that it's about building a war machine that's going to

1611
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 19: fight for our country. And he's he's doing that as

1612
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 19: we speak. He's trying to pull that all together because

1613
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,520
Speaker 19: if he went in and didn't change any of that scenario.

1614
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 9: He'd be either in a year. You mean, change the culture.

1615
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 19: You got to change the culture and how people think.

1616
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 19: But the warfighters actually on his side. You know, I've

1617
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 19: told you before, Generals had told me. You know, we coach,

1618
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 19: we're spending more money on transgender restrooms and we are

1619
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 19: covering up our one hundred million dollars airplane.

1620
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 9: Okay, you just told this audience that in the three

1621
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 9: big industrial complexes in this country that big farmer controls

1622
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 9: us more of. The next is the second one, the

1623
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 9: military industrial complex or big tech. I think you can

1624
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 9: put those hand in hand, handing the link. Yeah. There,

1625
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 9: there's why Amazon and all those guys are all over

1626
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 9: at Pentagon City right across the share all moving into

1627
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 9: military complex. We got it, We got So let's go

1628
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 9: back to a democratic return to the Senator Tubberville in a.

1629
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 21: Moment concerns I have, and just briefly on medicaid, states

1630
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 21: share in the funding of medicaid millions of disabled children

1631
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 21: in this country are alive because of Medicaid. Millions of

1632
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 21: people with addiction in this country are in recovery because

1633
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 21: of the services provided to them by Medicaid. And millions

1634
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 21: of chronically ill people who until Medicaid expansion was enacted,

1635
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 21: who couldn't get healthcare and therefore couldn't work because they

1636
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 21: were too sick, got health care through Medicaid expansion, then

1637
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 21: went back to work, and now they're on private insurance.

1638
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 21: So those are some facts about Medicaid that you might

1639
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 21: want to brush up on now. I'm also extremely concerned

1640
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 21: about your endorsement of radical thing conspiracies that have implemented

1641
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 21: at HS.

1642
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Those and there's a nine hundred billion So Pete's got too.

1643
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 9: He's got the cultural issues of turning people to war

1644
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 9: fighters from all the politically correct dei. He's driving that.

1645
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 9: But then you have this massive bureaucracy of the arms

1646
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 9: makers and one of the most profitable businesses in the country.

1647
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 9: We just approved a.

1648
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: Nine hundred billion dollar.

1649
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 9: NDAA, which I still don't think gets to the heart

1650
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 9: of the Chinese Commanists Party. Taking down the CCP effort

1651
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 9: with nine er billion dollars has the those guys come

1652
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 9: to see you and walk through what because if you

1653
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 9: don't touch defense, you're not going to get any social

1654
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 9: programs and you'll never get to the ability to talk

1655
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 9: to the American people been in titlements years from now.

1656
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 9: Somebody has to And I realized President Trump does all

1657
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 9: this stuff about a rearmament program, but it's nine hundred

1658
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 9: billion dollars with nobody around the world pitching in. President

1659
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 9: Trump just said the other you've got to pay five

1660
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 9: percent GDP. These guys all passed out right, they don't pay.

1661
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 9: They don't pay the two percent they committed to. I'd

1662
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 9: say the two percent it's all lies. When you look

1663
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 9: at it's all it's all women's healthcare and Green New

1664
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 9: Deal and you know green scams, et cetera. They're not

1665
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 9: paying for combat, and they're not paying for interoperatability, and

1666
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 9: they're not paying for joint maneuvers, none of it. So

1667
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 9: as the second part of the culture defense, could you

1668
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 9: see Elon or those working with your committee to actually say,

1669
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 9: we got to look at this and we have to

1670
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 9: change the mentality of the arms manufacturers.

1671
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, the only way they're going to be able

1672
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 19: to get anything done, especially with the Armed Services is

1673
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 19: they have to go through committee, noje once they get

1674
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 19: everybody in place. Now there's a lot of people, you know,

1675
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 19: the Deputy deck Seth and all those people have.

1676
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 9: To be put in any well confirmed not confirmed.

1677
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 19: I mean we're probably a month away before any anything

1678
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 19: like that happens.

1679
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 9: But we say a month away. But memory serves me

1680
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 9: that on March twentieth of this year, the United States

1681
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 9: government runs out of money again.

1682
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so are we going to do?

1683
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 9: And I saw the thing. Is it going to be

1684
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 9: a year cr? I saw Josh Holly, you know who's

1685
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 9: on here last night? Is it a year cr?

1686
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Are we going to have appropriations bills?

1687
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 14: Is?

1688
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 9: What's the heads up for the American people? What's going

1689
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 9: to happen?

1690
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 19: Well, I heard yesterday for the first time they were

1691
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 19: talking about that Susan Collins, Sue's appropriations chair. They were

1692
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 19: starting to talk about a year's CR. I can't imagine

1693
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 19: this to do it.

1694
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 9: I mean a year, cry, you're running that up the

1695
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 9: flag Poleoncy of Tommy Turforville salutes right now, and see

1696
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 9: if you're on board of that, Steve.

1697
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 19: We haven't done a budget for twenty five yet we

1698
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 19: have we need to be working on a bus it

1699
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 19: for twenty six we got two or one reconciliation bills.

1700
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 9: I actually had this conversation with a senior member of

1701
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 9: the administration this morning, say the twenty five budget, like,

1702
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 9: we haven't done that yet, and it's like that train's

1703
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 9: left the station because we're hurtling down towards it. Here's

1704
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 9: my point one or two reconciliations bills, a cr that

1705
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 9: you have to the government runs out of money on

1706
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 9: the twentieth. We don't have the individual appropriations bills right now.

1707
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 9: You got the dose guys here, the omb guys here.

1708
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 9: When is somebody going to put the whip hand of

1709
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 9: this and say we got to get organized and look,

1710
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 9: this has to be a critical path instead of piecemeal

1711
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 9: Susan Collins saying something and somebody else leaking something. This

1712
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 9: is a massively complex and if we're going to get

1713
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 9: our arms around spending and cuts, it has to have

1714
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 9: some organization to it. Do you think that's going to

1715
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 9: happen or we're just gonna stumble through.

1716
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 19: Well, most of us gonna have to come from the

1717
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,560
Speaker 19: White House. This is how we're going to do it.

1718
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 19: And then President Trump in his credit. He's been meeting

1719
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 19: with the House. He's meeting with us next week as

1720
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 19: senators bring us all up.

1721
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: But hang on, we just had him live.

1722
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 9: And look, we are hammering on this every day. Two

1723
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 9: reconciliations bills, if you have one big is going to

1724
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 9: be an omnibus. It won't be till August. It'll be that.

1725
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 9: We think the process will be a disaster.

1726
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 1: President Trump, who hasn't backed our.

1727
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 9: Play on us, he wants one beautiful bill. He goes

1728
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 9: to Durau and gives a great talk, and he's in

1729
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 9: details on policy but never mentions.

1730
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: And I hear he tells these guys, he says, you

1731
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: figured out.

1732
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 9: So the White House, at least right now is saying

1733
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 9: it's back to the Senate and back to the House.

1734
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 9: And we hear guys in the Senate are saying, Lindsey

1735
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 9: Graham of these guys commit that they could actually have

1736
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 9: a draft of the one for immigration, for the border,

1737
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Speaker 9: for energy sometime in mid March.

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Speaker 1: But I think the White House essentially said, guys, you

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Speaker 1: tell us what you want to do.

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Speaker 19: Well, a lot of what's happening right now with all

1741
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 19: these nominations, they're dragging it out where we can't really

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Speaker 19: get anything done.

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Speaker 9: We have got to get more people confirmed. But the

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Speaker 9: demo o and b we just got treasured last night.

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Speaker 9: Some RUSS votes not there, and I hear RUSS votes

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Speaker 9: in the vote may not come to Sunday or Monday.

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Speaker 9: And none of the deputy secretary is a treasury at Defense.

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Speaker 9: There are dozens and dozens of people that have to

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Speaker 9: be confirmed besides the top guy.

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Speaker 19: Right, yeah, because they got to be in on the conversation.

1751
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Speaker 19: It is a massive undertaking. The Democrats left this country

1752
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 19: in such a mess because of debt limit, you know,

1753
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 19: the obviously no twenty five budget. They want to do

1754
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 19: omnibus and they said, well, if y'alln't want to do that, fine,

1755
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Speaker 19: we'll just do a cr to March and just put

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Speaker 19: us in much put.

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Speaker 9: The biggest hawks that we have on deficit of the

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Speaker 9: House Freedom Caucus, right, and we know those guys very closely.

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Speaker 1: They put out a proposal of the present.

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Speaker 9: They sent a memo last week and they say in

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Speaker 9: the memo they've got all these cuts they want to do.

1762
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Speaker 9: And I keep telling guys, don't give me ten years.

1763
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 9: I want to see this year. I want to see

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Speaker 9: next year. This is a turnaround. They give a propose

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Speaker 9: in the debt ceiling that says they will agree to

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Speaker 9: the present kick it past the twenty sixth MINU term,

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Speaker 9: which we hate, but kick it into January twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: and lift four tree in dollars. So I do the

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Speaker 9: math and go, gosh, that's two.

1770
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Speaker 1: Tree in deficit this year and two tree and deficit

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 9: And CBO just said the other day two tree and

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Speaker 9: so just to have a frank conversation with the American

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Speaker 9: and those are the biggest deficit hawks we got.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else wants.

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Speaker 9: To do unlimited, Right, are we telling the American people

1777
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Speaker 9: that essentially we can't get control of this thing and

1778
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 9: that we we're gonna have two tree and dollar minimum

1779
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Speaker 9: deficits for the seeable future and we're just going to

1780
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 9: figure out Scott Besson is going to have to figure

1781
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Speaker 9: out some way to finance thirty eight trillion, forty three

1782
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 9: and forty two treeing? Is that? What is that? Where

1783
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 9: we are?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, the people driving the car right now are the

1785
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Speaker 19: ones you just talked about in the House. You know,

1786
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 19: the Freedom Caucus they're gonna make They're going to decide

1787
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 19: what's going to happen in the next couple of years,

1788
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 19: whether we're gonna cut or where we're gonna have a

1789
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Speaker 19: deficit of fifty treeion dollars here in about ten years.

1790
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Speaker 1: Why do you say that?

1791
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Speaker 9: Why you tell the audience that I believe that because

1792
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 9: they're not going to change your mind.

1793
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Speaker 19: I mean there's a lot of people in the Senate

1794
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 19: and some people in the House will change their mind.

1795
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Speaker 19: These guys are set. I mean they are They're going

1796
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Speaker 19: to fight, and they're in districts that the people will

1797
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 19: back them. In the city, yeah, people are, people are

1798
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 19: going to back them, and most of them are in

1799
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Speaker 19: the South.

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Speaker 9: What about if if President Trump says, hey, I need

1801
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 9: more leeway, I need more on the dead ceiling and

1802
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 9: a dead ceiling, and I want to look. President Trump

1803
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 9: strategically is talking about a hemispheric defense from from the

1804
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 9: Panama Canal, which he's we're taking back the Chinese are

1805
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 9: actually leaving right now, all the way to Greenland and

1806
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 9: the Arctic. The hemispheric defense. He also talked to mention

1807
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 9: the other day iron dome. Now, let's assume that that

1808
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 9: can technically work. That's another two or three treeon dollars.

1809
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 9: He also says he wants a stronger military, in a

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Speaker 9: military that's up leveled from weapons. We're at nine hundred

1811
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Speaker 9: billion dollars. That doesn't include the two and a half

1812
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Speaker 9: treeon dollars to build iron don't if we can build it, Where.

1813
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Speaker 1: Does it stop on defense spending?

1814
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Speaker 19: And we're spending two tree and upgrading our Minuteman missiles Hi,

1815
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 19: you can exactly, they're fifty years old. Fifty years old? Yeah,

1816
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 19: where does it stop?

1817
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 9: And people look to you as kind of the your

1818
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 9: your credentials as a hawk are unquestioned, right in common sense?

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01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: You're dead.

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Speaker 9: Was a D day? Your dad was a door came

1821
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 9: up surely after was a tank guy for patent People

1822
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 9: know where you are. But you're also prudent about the budget.

1823
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 9: What do we got to do because we don't get

1824
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 9: our hands around defense. You're never going to cut discretionary

1825
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 9: and you're never going to eventually have a conversation with

1826
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 9: the American people have bet entitled because they're just said

1827
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 9: there to go, screw you. You're out of control right now.

1828
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 9: When can we get have a rational conversation with people

1829
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 9: who want the defense of this country, are patriots and

1830
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,919
Speaker 9: have served in the military. And or come from families

1831
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Speaker 9: to say this is what we have to do.

1832
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Speaker 19: And you didn't bring it up that I live in

1833
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 19: a state that we're almost all military. We all military,

1834
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 19: one thousand defense contractors in Hunspal Alabama, Redstone Arsenal, and

1835
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Speaker 19: it is we employ a lot of people, but we

1836
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Speaker 19: all also understand it. As we cut Steve, there's not

1837
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 19: gonna be a lot of wars like you're seeing right

1838
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Speaker 19: now in Ukraine. I mean it's gonna be missile wars.

1839
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 19: It's gonna be it's not gonna be the landfall.

1840
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 9: AI And with missiles actly and drones and cyber warfare.

1841
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Speaker 19: We're behind on ships, but ships aren't gonna last too

1842
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 19: long with all these long range missiles that are being

1843
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 19: invented as we speak, we're into drones now, and so.

1844
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Speaker 1: Well, this is the revolution of military fairs.

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Speaker 9: This is what actually Rumsfield wanted to try to do

1846
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 9: twenty years ago before he got taken away to the

1847
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 9: war and terror. Is that something serious that people are

1848
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 9: thinking because you don't see in the defense budget.

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Speaker 1: I love the navy.

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Speaker 9: I'm a naval guy, and his Trump's strategy is a

1851
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 9: naval strategy.

1852
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: For Imahanian.

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Speaker 9: They're talking about another two trillion dollars upgrade to the

1854
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Speaker 9: surface warfare and fast attack the submarines.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, because of China, and you know, and because they're building,

1856
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 19: and we think we have to build, and we probably do.

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Speaker 19: I've listened to these Indo Pacific commanders for the last

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Speaker 19: four years, and you know they're they're very, very understanding

1859
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 19: how far we're behind. And shine we fought these twenty

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Speaker 19: year wars. We didn't do anything with the navy wearrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: if we put them in the back navy, but backburn

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01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 19: and put them lamp manded. So we're going to have

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Speaker 19: to upgrade the navy. And President Trump's exactly right. Okay,

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Speaker 19: this is deuper concry. I know you got to bounce

1865
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 19: your staff. It's given a stinky right now. Thank you

1866
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Speaker 19: for doing this. Thank your staff for setting it up

1867
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Speaker 19: real quickly. Taulci Gabbard in cash tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: What are you looking for and how can this audience

1869
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 9: help support the president's nominees.

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Speaker 19: Well, call your senators. I'm telling you that helps, you know,

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Speaker 19: Light those phones up to your senators. Both of them

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01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 19: are two in each state. I don't care if you

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01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 19: think that they're going to get a vote or not.

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Speaker 9: And the local office is important too, right now, I

1875
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 9: just hear the thing they when they could have called

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Speaker 9: the local office, they pay particular attention.

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Speaker 19: Yeah yeah, And here's the deal about these three. They're

1878
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 19: out of the box, okay. And I think that the

1879
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 19: people across the country want this. They want people that

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01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 19: are that are have a different idea of how this

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Speaker 19: country should run. Uh RFK Junior cash Betail. I mean

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01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 19: here's a guy that uh you know, are you know

1883
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 19: our FBI is out of control and it's it's it's

1884
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,839
Speaker 19: almost extinct in terms.

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Speaker 9: Of people in Alabama would support a major restructuring of

1886
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Speaker 9: the So you got the patrons Alabama say, I'm all in.

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Speaker 19: I got to remember half of the FBI is in Huntsville, Alabama.

1888
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Speaker 19: Now we spent three billion dollars building new billings for

1889
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Speaker 19: cyber of FBI and all those things, you know, for

1890
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 19: over the last but five years. So yeah, they're Tulsea

1891
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Speaker 19: Gabbert is perfect because she's out of the box.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 19: They don't like her because she went to Syria and

1894
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Speaker 19: some of these things. Come on, folks, is she on

1895
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 19: top of there?

1896
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 9: They're leaking that she's not on top of the material

1897
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 9: do you find that she's on top of the maturial.

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Speaker 19: Oh yeah, if we talked to her several times, talked

1899
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Speaker 19: her on the phone, she is, uh, she has your

1900
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 19: stamp of approval. Oh yeah, one hundred percent because all

1901
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 19: the audience needs. Yeah, because you look at the people

1902
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 19: that she's following. She's following people that are that are

1903
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 19: totally different than she is. I mean, she is very opinionated,

1904
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Speaker 19: and I like that from somebody that's going to be

1905
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 19: over intelligence. She's not going to be quiet. She don't

1906
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 19: speak out of what she thinks is good or bad.

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Speaker 19: Perfect Sarah Tellerville. By the way, your social media is

1908
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 19: at send Turberville. We'll put this up. Seen your name

1909
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 19: Turberville at that that's on Twitter. Every time I come

1910
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 19: on your show, it just explodes. So we appreciate that.

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Speaker 9: We thank you. But you're a big favorite of this audience.

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Speaker 9: They love you for your beat, straightforward with them. Thank

1913
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Speaker 9: you very much, Ston, I appreciate you. Let's go back

1914
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Speaker 9: to the hearing. Right, Let's go and cut right back

1915
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Speaker 9: to Bobby Kennedy.

1916
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Speaker 12: Thinking our sixty percent in Greece and Medicaid over the

1917
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Speaker 12: past four years. It's the biggest budget line and it's

1918
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 12: growing faster than any other and no other nation in

1919
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 12: the world has what we have here. No other nation

1920
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Speaker 12: hasse We have the highest chronic disease burden of any

1921
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Speaker 12: country in the world. We had during COVID we had

1922
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 12: sixteen percent of the COVID deaths in a country we

1923
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 12: only have four point two percent of the world's population.

1924
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 12: We had a higher death count than any country.

1925
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Speaker 6: In the world.

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Speaker 12: And when CDC was as why is that? It's because

1927
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 12: Americans are the sickest people on earth. The average person

1928
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 12: who died from COVID American had three point eight chronic diseases.

1929
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Speaker 12: This is an existential threat economically to our military or health,

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Speaker 12: to our sense of well being, and it is a

1931
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Speaker 12: priority for President Trump, and that's why he asked me

1932
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Speaker 12: to run the agency. And if I privileged be confirmed,

1933
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Speaker 12: that's exactly what I'll do.

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Speaker 22: Senator Barassol, thanks so much, mister Chaarman and mister Kennedy.

1935
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Speaker 22: Thank you for taking time to visit with me in

1936
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Speaker 22: my office prior to today's hearing to talk about a

1937
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 22: lot of the important issues affecting healthcare in my home

1938
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 22: state of Wyoming as well as the nation. I appreciate

1939
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 22: your willingness to serve our country. During our meeting, we

1940
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 22: discussed the challenges that healthcare providers and patients are facing

1941
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 22: in rural America. Financial obstacles facing rural hospitals, workforce shortages,

1942
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 22: issues of OBGYN, and then new regulations that are painful

1943
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 22: that have come out of the Biden administration, hurting our

1944
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,799
Speaker 22: ability to provide nursing home staffing.

1945
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 9: So let me start, if I could, with.

1946
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Speaker 22: Rural hospitals and the closures of hospitals like that, there

1947
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 22: are a lot of challenges facing hospitals and rural communities

1948
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 22: in frontier areas. We have thirty three hospitals in Wyoming,

1949
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 22: twenty six are really located in areas locations often hard

1950
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Speaker 22: to get to, weather impacts them.

1951
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,879
Speaker 9: Six of the hospitals are risk.

1952
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Speaker 22: Of clothing closing to our immediate risk of closing in

1953
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 22: the next two years. Ten have had to cut available

1954
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Speaker 22: services and this is a concern of rural hospitals. Both

1955
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 22: Republican and Democrats states either way bipartisan critical that the

1956
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Speaker 22: workforce challenges, financial challenges that we're facing our addressed. Can

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Speaker 22: you commit to working with us on a plan to

1958
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 22: address the critical nationwide issue of rural healthcare.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, Senator, And I would say that during my visits,

1960
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Speaker 12: I visited almost sixty senators of our and the most

1961
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 12: common unifying I would say issue on both Democrats and Republicans.

1962
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Speaker 6: There were two.

1963
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 12: One was PBM reform and the others rural hospitals. And

1964
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 12: you know, our nation made a commitment over one hundred

1965
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 12: years ago to a hospital within thirty miles of every American.

1966
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 12: We generally succeeded in doing that. It's absolutely critical, it's

1967
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 12: life saving, and rural hospitals are closing at an extraordinary

1968
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 12: rate right now, and not only provide important healthcare for

1969
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 12: the localities, but all so they're economic drivers for.

1970
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 6: Localities all over this country.

1971
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 12: I President Trump is determined to end the hemorrhage of

1972
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 12: rural hospitals, and he's asked me to do that through

1973
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 12: through the use of AI, through telemedicine, which these are

1974
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 12: innovations that I saw the other day. A Cleveland clinic

1975
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 12: has developed an AI nurse that you cannot distinguish from

1976
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,759
Speaker 12: a human being that has diagnosedics as good as any doctor.

1977
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 12: And we can develop we can provide concierge care to

1978
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Speaker 12: every American in this country, even though the remote parts

1979
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 12: of Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, et cetera. We also have opportunities

1980
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 12: at HRSA and at the GME to finally live up

1981
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 12: to GMA's mission of serving of providing persons how to

1982
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 12: rural hospitals. And I intend to use all of my

1983
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 12: power because I've seen the priority it's given by both

1984
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 12: Democrats and Republicans on this committee. I intend to make

1985
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 12: that a priority of my If I'm privileged to be confirmed.

1986
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Speaker 22: Well, I appreciate it because often if with financial strains

1987
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 22: on the local hospital, one of the common services to

1988
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 22: be cut in rural hospitals and maternity services.

1989
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 9: And now we have women in Wyoming having to drive

1990
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 9: over one.

1991
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Speaker 1: Hundred miles to access care.

1992
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 22: Thirteen counties in Wyoming don't have access to OB and

1993
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,799
Speaker 22: we're talking counties larger than the states of Vermont, New Hampshire,

1994
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 22: Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, counties larger than those

1995
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 22: whole states. So will you commit to working with my

1996
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 22: office to find solutions to help address these specific maternal

1997
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Speaker 22: health challenges.

1998
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Speaker 9: In rural America?

1999
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Speaker 6: Yes, I look forward to it.

2000
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 22: Another issue we specifically spoke about with this harmful Biden

2001
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 22: administration rule that have really been bad for our rural

2002
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 22: nursing homes. It's a rule that would triple the registered

2003
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 22: nurse requirements in nursing homes. This is going to lead

2004
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 22: We just aren't enough registered nurses in our state to

2005
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 22: be able to comply with this. This would lead to

2006
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 22: nursing home closures across our state. Will you commit to

2007
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Speaker 22: working with me to fix this serious problem that it

2008
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 22: was a result of a rule that came out by

2009
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 22: the Biden administration, who clearly doesn't understand rural America.

2010
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 12: Yes, as Senator, I think the rule was well intentioned.

2011
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 12: As you've said, and I've heard from many rural senators

2012
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 12: it will be a disaster for their estates.

2013
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Speaker 6: Some of the nursing homes.

2014
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,959
Speaker 12: These are staffing rules that require twenty four hours staffing

2015
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 12: by medical professionals. Some of the nursing homes in rural

2016
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 12: areas simply do not have the available of personnel or

2017
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 12: the economics be able to do that. It will mean

2018
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 12: the closure of nursing homes and rural areas across our country,

2019
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 12: which means the parents, the elderly parent will be moved

2020
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 12: a great distance from the local community and their family

2021
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 12: and we know that the single greatest driver of high

2022
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 12: quality nursing home care is the involvement the proximity of

2023
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 12: family members. When you move that nursing the facility away

2024
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 12: from the community where the kids live, you're going to

2025
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 12: get much worse care. So the intention, although it was noble,

2026
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 12: was in reality for rural areas at least, it is

2027
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 12: going to be a disaster.

2028
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Speaker 13: Thank you, Thank you, mister Chairman, Thank you, Senator Johnson.

2029
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Speaker 8: Chs.

2030
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Speaker 23: Kenny welcome, Thank you for being here. Thank you for

2031
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 23: your decades long advocacy for a clean environment for children's health.

2032
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 23: I can't see as I'm surprised by the hostility on

2033
01:47:54,120 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 23: the other side, I'm highly disappointed in it. I don't

2034
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 23: know if you remember when you called me up and

2035
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 23: you were contemplating setting your political differences aside joining forces

2036
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:11,759
Speaker 23: with present Trump. I'm in an area of agreement, addressing

2037
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 23: chronic illness, trying to find the root cause of all

2038
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 23: these problems facing this nation. My first response was, Bobby,

2039
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 23: this is an answer to my prayers. We need to

2040
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 23: get to the answers of this, but even more, we

2041
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 23: need to heal and unify this divided nation. I'm not

2042
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 23: necessarily the most optimistic guy, because we've got enormous challenges

2043
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 23: facing this nation. But I thought, wow, here's somebody from

2044
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 23: the left, somebody I don't agree with on many issues politically,

2045
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 23: coming together with present Trump and focusing on an area

2046
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 23: of agreement, something that the American people desperately want finding

2047
01:48:58,360 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 23: out the answers what is caused dot?

2048
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 3: What is causing chronic illness?

2049
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 6: Miss Kennedy.

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Speaker 22: I know.

2051
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 3: I think I've come to know what's in your heart.

2052
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 23: I think I know the personal and political price you've

2053
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 23: paid for this decision. I want to say publicly, I

2054
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 23: thank you for that. I truly appreciate what you're doing here.

2055
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 23: Can't we come together as a nation.

2056
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Speaker 22: And do this?

2057
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 6: Can we do? Aren't you?

2058
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 23: Aren't you getting tired of this? I'm getting tired of this,

2059
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 23: So again, Miss Kennedy, I need to enter in the record.

2060
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Speaker 23: This is just These are just eleven letters of support

2061
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 23: signed by sixty three thousand people, thousands of doctors from

2062
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Speaker 23: the American Associations Association, American Physicians and Surgeons, Independent Medical Alliance,

2063
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Speaker 23: the North CA Line of Physicians, and Freedom Group Governor

2064
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 23: Jeff Landry from Louisiana. These are Americans nonpartisan at a

2065
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 23: lot of these people, I know because I've advocated.

2066
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Speaker 3: With you, a lot of them are Democrats.

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01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 23: They put their political differences aside. So Miss Chairman, I'd

2068
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 23: like to enter this in the record without objection. I

2069
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 23: also do want to Miss Kennedy as long as I

2070
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 23: have here. I've written over seventy oversight letters to the

2071
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 23: federal health agencies under the Biden administration. I've virtually gotten

2072
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 23: squat out of them. Okay, what I get is we get,

2073
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 23: for example, fifty pages of Anthi Fauci's emails redacted by

2074
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 23: the way, the latest one was seventeen pages. Instead of

2075
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 23: issuing a health alert on the myocartis myocarditist they knew

2076
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,919
Speaker 23: was impacting young men early in twenty.

2077
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 3: Twenty one, instead of issuing.

2078
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 23: An alert on the health alert network, they developed seventeen

2079
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 23: pages of talking points.

2080
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 3: This was given to the public.

2081
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 6: Under four requests.

2082
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 8: They had to go to court.

2083
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 23: They've got a new way of redacting that they don't

2084
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 23: black things out. They just give you white pages, so

2085
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 23: you don't even know what they have redacted. So again,

2086
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 23: I've issued a subpoena now to cover the information I've

2087
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 23: I've requested seventy oversight letters. My question to you is,

2088
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 23: as Secretary HHS, will you honor these requests from Congress

2089
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 23: and will you make HHS transparent.

2090
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2091
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:46,600
Speaker 12: My approach Aghs I said about for Senator is radical transparency.

2092
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 12: Democrats and Republicans ought to be able to come in

2093
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 12: and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense, that

2094
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 12: is owned by the American taxpayer. They shouldn't get redacted

2095
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 12: to documents public health agents. The should be transparent. And

2096
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 12: if we want Americans to restore trust in the public

2097
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 12: health agencies, we need transparency.

2098
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 19: The you know the.

2099
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 12: I want to say something about what you first said

2100
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 12: when I launched my campaign. It was about uniting Americans,

2101
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 12: Democrats and Republicans. There's no issue that she united is

2102
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 12: more than this chronic health epidemic. There's no such thing

2103
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 12: as Republican children or Democratic children. These are our kids.

2104
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 12: Sixty six percent of them are damaged. I know what

2105
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 12: a healthy kid looks like because I had so.

2106
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 6: Many of them in my family.

2107
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 12: I didn't know anybody with a food allergy growing up,

2108
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 12: peanut allergy.

2109
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 6: Why do five of my kids have allergies?

2110
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 12: Why are we seeing these explosions and diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis,

2111
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 12: neurological diseases, depression, all these things that are related to

2112
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 12: toxic grew up Arman.

2113
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 6: Why can't we just agree with.

2114
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 12: Each other to put differences about so many issues, intractable issues, aside,

2115
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 12: and say we're going to end this.

2116
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody is going.

2117
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,799
Speaker 12: To be able to do this like I have because

2118
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 12: of my peculiar experience, because I've litigated against these agencies.

2119
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,560
Speaker 12: When you litigate against them, you get a PhD in

2120
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 12: corporate capture and how to unravel it. I've written six

2121
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 12: books about these agencies. I know a lot about them,

2122
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 12: and I know how to fix it. And there's nobody

2123
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 12: who will fix it the way that I do. Because

2124
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 12: I'm not scared of vested interest.

2125
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 6: I don't care.

2126
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 12: I'm not here because I want a position or a job.

2127
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 12: I have a very good life and happy family. This

2128
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 12: is something I don't need. I want to do this

2129
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 12: because we're going to fix it. And the other thing

2130
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 12: is we are attracting now a caliber of people to

2131
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 12: HHS like never before in history. And they are entrepreneurs there,

2132
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 12: they're disruptors, they're innovators of immense talents that are walking away,

2133
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 12: many of them from growing concerns. They're not coming there

2134
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 12: or position. They're coming there because they want to save

2135
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 12: our country.

2136
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 6: And they're from.

2137
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Speaker 12: Across the political spectrum. And all these Democrats are opposed

2138
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 12: to me for partisan issues. They used to be my friends,

2139
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 12: agreed with me on all the environmental issues I've been

2140
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 12: working on for my whole career. Now they're against me

2141
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 12: because anything that President Trump does, any decision he mays,

2142
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:43,839
Speaker 12: has to be lampooned, derided, discredited, marginalized, vilify.

2143
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 13: We need to move on, Senator Warren.

2144
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 10: Thank you, mister chairman. So, mister Kennedy, I want to

2145
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 10: start with something that I think you and I agree on,

2146
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 10: and that is that big pharma has too much power

2147
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 10: in Washington. You send that President Trump asked you to

2148
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 10: quote clean up corruption and conflicts.

2149
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Sounds great.

2150
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 10: You've said that you will quote slam shut the revolving

2151
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 10: door between government agencies and the companies they regulate. That

2152
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 10: also sounds great. So here's an easy question. Will you

2153
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 10: commit that when you leave this job you will not

2154
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 10: accept compensation from a drug company, a medical device company,

2155
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 10: a hospital system, or a health insurer for at least

2156
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 10: four years including as a lobbyist or a board member.

2157
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 6: Can you just repeat the last part of the question,

2158
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 6: commitment You're.

2159
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 10: Not going to take money from drug companies in any way, shape.

2160
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 8: Or who me yes, you.

2161
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 6: To commit to that good.

2162
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 3: That's what I figured.

2163
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 10: I said, it's an easy question to start with, and

2164
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 10: I think you're right on this.

2165
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Speaker 6: I don't think any of them want to give me money.

2166
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Speaker 6: By the way, Let's let's keep going.

2167
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 10: You're right because to say yes, because every American has

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01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 10: the right to know that every decision you make as

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Speaker 10: our number one health officer is to help them and

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Speaker 10: not to make money for yourself in the future. So

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Speaker 10: I want to talk more about money. I'm looking at

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Speaker 10: your paperwork right now. In the past two years, you've

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Speaker 10: breaked in two and a half million dollars from a

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Speaker 10: law firm called Wisner Bomb. You go online, you do

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Speaker 10: commercials to encourage people to sign up with wisner Bomb

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Speaker 10: to join lawsuits against vaccine makers. And for everyone who

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Speaker 10: signs up, you personally get paid and if they win

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Speaker 10: their case, you get ten percent of what they win.

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Speaker 10: So if you bring in somebody who gets ten million dollars,

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Speaker 10: you walk away with a million dollars. Now, you just

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Speaker 10: said that you want the American people to know you

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Speaker 10: can't be bought. Your decisions won't depend on how much

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Speaker 10: money you could make in the future. You won't go

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Speaker 10: to work for a drug company after you leave HHS,

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Speaker 10: but you and I both know there's another way to

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Speaker 10: make money. So, mister Kennedy, will you also agree that

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Speaker 10: you won't take any compensation from any lawsuits against drug

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Speaker 10: companies while you are secretary and for four years afterwards.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll certainly commit.

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Speaker 22: That.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'm secretary, but I do want to clarify something

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Speaker 12: because you're making me sound like I shall I put

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Speaker 12: together that dayse I did the scienced a presentation of

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Speaker 12: the judge on that case to get it into met

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Speaker 12: mister Alberteering.

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Speaker 10: Mister Kennedy is just a really simple question you've taken

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Speaker 10: in two and a half million dollars. I want to

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Speaker 10: know if you will commit right now that not only

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Speaker 10: will you not go to work for drug companies, you

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Speaker 10: won't go to work suing the drug companies and taking

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Speaker 10: your rake out of that while your secretary and for

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Speaker 10: four years after it's.

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Speaker 6: Just not taking anti vees from drug rug companies.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm Secretary, I I'm asking about fees from suing

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Speaker 10: drug companies. Will you agree not to do that?

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Speaker 12: You're asking me to not sue drug companies, and I'm

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Speaker 12: not going to agree to companies. As much as I want,

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to agree to not sue drug companies

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Speaker 12: or anybody.

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Speaker 10: So let's do a quick count here of how as

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Speaker 10: Secretary of HHS, if you get confirmed, you could influence

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Speaker 10: every one of those lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me start the list.

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Speaker 10: You can publish your anti vaccine conspiracies, but this time

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Speaker 10: on US government letterheads. Something or jury might be impressed by.

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Speaker 6: You can appoint I don't understand the.

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Speaker 10: Ce Vaccine Panel who share your anti vax views, and

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Speaker 10: let them do your dirty work. You could tell the

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Speaker 10: CDC Vaccine Panel to remove a particular vaccine from the

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Speaker 10: vaccine schedule. You could remove vaccines from special compensation programs,

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Speaker 10: which would open up manufacturers to mass torts. You could

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Speaker 10: make more injuries eligible for compensation even if there is

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Speaker 10: no causal evidence. You could change vaccine court processes to

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Speaker 10: make it easier to bring junk lawsuits. You could turn

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Speaker 10: over FDA data to your friends at the law firm,

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Speaker 10: and they could use it, however it benefited them. You

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Speaker 10: could change vaccine labeling, you could change vaccine information rules.

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Speaker 10: You could change which claims are compensated in the vaccine

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Speaker 10: injury cost.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Stephen k Bean in a war room.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna shift over, Charlie Kirk and be watching this

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Speaker 9: five o'clock to night scheduled Megan Kelly, Natalie Winners from

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Speaker 9: the White House.

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Speaker 1: Carrie Lake. We're gonna be packed this afternoon.

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Speaker 9: We'll see you back your live five pm Eastern Standard

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Speaker 9: Times