Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
Speaker 1: now two time MTV Video Music Award. Watch your j Peace, Shadrick.
Speaker 1: I got watched it more than twice back in the
Speaker 1: old days. Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logovan with us. We'll have Tony
Speaker 1: Boselli at four thirty Logs, Good afternoon. What's happening with you?
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, JP, All's good. Yeah, it's been a busy
Speaker 1: day around t I A a bank field, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the show today. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: discussing actionable change. Practice was moved back and actually was
Speaker 1: in question for a little while today. The Jags did
Speaker 1: take the practice field a little later. We'll get into
Speaker 1: some of the reasons why. We'll hear from Doug Maron
Speaker 1: and wide receiver Chris Conley. The season is two weeks away.
Speaker 1: Two weeks from tonight will be the first NFL game
Speaker 1: of the season. It's coming quick. The Jags have a
Speaker 1: lot of work to get done between now and two
Speaker 1: weeks from now, including a scrimmage this Saturday. We'll preview
Speaker 1: a little bit of that what to expect, and we'll
Speaker 1: go around the National Football League. Let's start logs with today.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars had their normal scheduled practice for today, but
Speaker 1: they got started at there were some team meetings. Doug
Speaker 1: Maron was scheduled to meet the media ten till nine
Speaker 1: this morning. That came and went. There was a message
Speaker 1: from the pr staff saying that Maron's oppress availability would
Speaker 1: be postponed. There was no time given, and then there
Speaker 1: was a question about practice as well, where apparently there
Speaker 1: was a team meeting going on about everything that has
Speaker 1: happened in Wisconsin over the last few days. And you know,
Speaker 1: of course, the night before NBA teams were walking off
Speaker 1: the floor and the playoff games and they postponed all
Speaker 1: those games. Last night. Some Major League Baseball teams were
Speaker 1: stepping away in protest as well. So the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: trying to figure out as a team what they were
Speaker 1: going to do, if they were going to do anything
Speaker 1: today about that. And there was a vote held and
Speaker 1: the team voted to go out and practice together. Doug
Speaker 1: Morone explained a little bit the morning that was at
Speaker 1: t I A a bank field. You know, today, you know,
Speaker 1: decisions to go out and practice. I'm sure there was
Speaker 1: you know, players that you know I didn't want to practice,
Speaker 1: Maybe there was coaches, maybe it was everyone. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, but what I do know is that
Speaker 1: we're able to express a lot of opinions, a lot
Speaker 1: of emotion um at the end of the day, somehow,
Speaker 1: you know, come together and go out there. And I
Speaker 1: think that somewhere along the line, we've got to figure
Speaker 1: it out because obviously we want to do something that's
Speaker 1: that's actionable, something that you know, could could create change,
Speaker 1: said coach Doug Moron after practice today logs. The vote apparently,
Speaker 1: according to Chris Connley, was one vote difference thirty seven
Speaker 1: thirty six with the numbers he gave, so that's quite
Speaker 1: a near that's about his narrow of marginal you can get, obviously,
Speaker 1: But the team did come together after that and go
Speaker 1: out and practice. That's a lot of moving parts on
Speaker 1: a on a practice day and training camp. Well, I
Speaker 1: think I think emotions running pretty high with what happened
Speaker 1: in Kenosha, Wisconsin and UH and I think probably a
Speaker 1: lot of players feel like, Okay, here we go again,
Speaker 1: and what do we have to do to make this
Speaker 1: not happen again, and so I think there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of frustration there. There's certainly a lot of deep
Speaker 1: thought that's involved here. And I think that you probably
Speaker 1: have some player that sit there and say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, I emotionally can't get ready for a practice.
Speaker 1: And then there's some players that that say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we still have a job and let's go to practice
Speaker 1: because that's what we are, we're football players. And then
Speaker 1: we can have actionable change at another time. But but
Speaker 1: I understand it, and it's a difficult time because so
Speaker 1: many other athletes have already reacted. And I think with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and other players or football players that are
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how can they best draw attention
Speaker 1: to this so that this doesn't happen again, they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the best way to do that. And
Speaker 1: that's tough. I mean, it's hard. It's it's hard to
Speaker 1: figure out what's what the right thing to do is.
Speaker 1: And it's certainly a position that the players. Uh, first
Speaker 1: of all, I give them credit for being in it
Speaker 1: to begin with, because for many years, I mean, there
Speaker 1: was never a position taken by the players really for anything.
Speaker 1: I mean there was I don't want to say there
Speaker 1: there was a fear, but there was a hesitancy to
Speaker 1: jump out in front and say I don't approve of this,
Speaker 1: and we want to see something change. So I give
Speaker 1: the players credit from that standpoint, but there also is
Speaker 1: there's a long way to go, a long way to go,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the right action is, but
Speaker 1: but I think the players are trying to find out
Speaker 1: exactly what that is as well. Well. And of course
Speaker 1: Logs it starts at the top of the organization here.
Speaker 1: You remember a couple of months ago, right after the
Speaker 1: George Floyd incident in Minneapolish, the Jaguars decided to march
Speaker 1: to the police station here in Jacksonville and back. That
Speaker 1: was in the midst of the COVID pandemic and everything
Speaker 1: going on, so that was the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time everybody had kind of been in the same place.
Speaker 1: And then a few days later, Leonard Fournette led him
Speaker 1: march downtown with the mayor and the sheriff involved in
Speaker 1: that one as well, and then Mr Khan has a
Speaker 1: statement basically saying that the Jaguars will be at the
Speaker 1: forefront of these just gushions here and in players communities,
Speaker 1: and so that's what this is gonna be. And and
Speaker 1: even after those marches, Doug Marone spoke and said, We're
Speaker 1: going to dedicate time to this. It's that important to
Speaker 1: our organization, our city, um and our players that even
Speaker 1: in the midst of training camp when something comes up
Speaker 1: like this, they have to give it time because it's
Speaker 1: important to the football team and the community. And that's
Speaker 1: that's that's really what Doug Brown thinks logs Yeah, and
Speaker 1: uh boy, I mean it's I give Doug a lot
Speaker 1: of credit first off, because I mean, these are challenging
Speaker 1: times and he's having to maneuver with a lot of
Speaker 1: different things going on. You know, you have worldwide pandemic,
Speaker 1: You're trying to coach a football team, and now you
Speaker 1: have social issues that are are right at the at
Speaker 1: the forefront of a lot of people's thoughts and a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, his his employees or his players thoughts. So, uh,
Speaker 1: kudos to do for managing a lot of that. Kudos
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars for being out in front with some
Speaker 1: of those things and supporting the players going all the
Speaker 1: way back to the to the march in Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: then most recently, JP the Jaguars named a person to
Speaker 1: a position to help address some of these issues with
Speaker 1: the organization, with the players and in the community. I'll
Speaker 1: make sure I get this right. It's Tanisha Tate, who
Speaker 1: was just recently named vice president of Social Responsibility and Impact.
Speaker 1: And so kudos to the Jaguars and Mark Lamping and
Speaker 1: Shot Khan for taking action that they feel like will
Speaker 1: lead to more action. And because you know, players are players,
Speaker 1: and and so a lot of times they want to
Speaker 1: know what's best and they need to find out what's
Speaker 1: the best way to maybe go about things. And I
Speaker 1: think having Tunisia in that role, I think we'll guide
Speaker 1: the energy. At least I'm hoping that will guide that
Speaker 1: energy to a productive outcome for what the intentions are.
Speaker 1: So credit to the Jaguars, I give him a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. Tunisia's Jacksonville native went to Rains High School,
Speaker 1: so she knows the lay of the land here very
Speaker 1: well and that will be a fantastic role for her.
Speaker 1: You know, this comes after the last couple of days, obviously,
Speaker 1: after what happened in Wisconsin and the Lions canceled practice
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, the first NFL team to
Speaker 1: do anything like that with this incident, and then the
Speaker 1: NBA decided to postpone playoff games with the Bucks walk
Speaker 1: off the floor, and the league had to basically postpone
Speaker 1: all the playoff games. They don't want to start forfeiting
Speaker 1: playoff games. That's not a great look, certainly, so they
Speaker 1: postponed them. And then there's a big players meeting in
Speaker 1: the NBA last night. Would they even finish the playoffs? Well,
Speaker 1: cooler heads have prevailed with that. It sounds like they're
Speaker 1: going to finish the playoffs they or continue them. At
Speaker 1: least a few Major League Baseball teams have had games
Speaker 1: postponed or they walked off the field. Others like the
Speaker 1: Oakland A's today are not planning on ploy playing in
Speaker 1: their game. But now the question today was could NFL
Speaker 1: games at some point being jeopardy if an instance like
Speaker 1: this were to happen again in the future During the
Speaker 1: NFL's regular season. Chris Connolly was asked that after practice today,
Speaker 1: and of course Chris was was vocal in those marches
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago here in Jacksonville, and he
Speaker 1: said it would take a United front by the faces
Speaker 1: of the league. You see the leaders and people in
Speaker 1: the other leagues who stand up and say that they're
Speaker 1: they're sitting down, And those are the guys. Those are
Speaker 1: the lebrons, you know, those are the curries, those are
Speaker 1: the those are the guys who were at the top
Speaker 1: of their game in the face of the league. The
Speaker 1: same thing would need to happen in the NFL for
Speaker 1: that to happen, And until then, I'm not sure. Conley
Speaker 1: is a very eloquent speaker. Of course, he had that
Speaker 1: fantastic speech on the stairs at the police station a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago and was one of the most
Speaker 1: vocal that day and as a big piece of of
Speaker 1: what the Jaguars were doing today leading up to practice
Speaker 1: or not practice, you know. And it's it's a valid
Speaker 1: point because he made this point two logs that there's
Speaker 1: so many players involved in the NFL, and there are
Speaker 1: different tiers of players. Right, A quarterback has a little
Speaker 1: more juice, if you will, then you know the third
Speaker 1: string guard who's a rookie. Right, That's just kind of
Speaker 1: how it works. Um, it's fair, but it's not equal,
Speaker 1: was the term he used. So that's what it would
Speaker 1: take If all of a sudden, a third string guard
Speaker 1: doesn't want to sit out, they'll find another third string guard.
Speaker 1: If a starting quarterback who was an m v P
Speaker 1: can let me just jump in here a little bit,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I understand that. Look the reason why you
Speaker 1: maybe don't have a game or or boycott a game,
Speaker 1: or or say we don't want to practice as you're
Speaker 1: trying to draw attention to a matter, totally get that.
Speaker 1: The one thing though, that I'm not sure of it
Speaker 1: is if you if you get in the NFL season,
Speaker 1: and this is all purely hypothetical, but if you get
Speaker 1: in the NFL season and you say, okay, well we
Speaker 1: don't want to play because something happens, does that does
Speaker 1: that affect actionable change? And I think that's the question
Speaker 1: that needs to be asked and answered before before anybody
Speaker 1: decides not to do it, you know, And and I
Speaker 1: think Bruce Arians, the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit today when he met
Speaker 1: with the media over there, and he said that, you know,
Speaker 1: for the players, don't protest, you know, take action, and
Speaker 1: whatever that action is. I don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 1: but just protesting or saying Okay, we're not gonna practice.
Speaker 1: If that's not going to create change, then that don't
Speaker 1: do it. Create do something that's gonna be productive. And
Speaker 1: and like I said, I don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of really bright minds
Speaker 1: that the NFL can lean on. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the whole reason why the Jaguars have Tunisian in that role,
Speaker 1: is that you know, hey, look, you know to provide guides,
Speaker 1: you know, to to provide help to make the right
Speaker 1: decisions for for a football team, and also to create
Speaker 1: actionable change. So uh, and it's a touchy subject. I mean,
Speaker 1: which you know, what's the right thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: in locker rooms, JP are no different than society. Locker
Speaker 1: rooms have a thing and they all vary. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: from eighty different backgrounds. It's it's no different than if
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback controversy. And I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: to kind of compare the social issues that we have
Speaker 1: today with you know, who's the starting quarterback, But I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to use this as an example of how
Speaker 1: opinions can be so varied and that you know, I've
Speaker 1: been in locker rooms before to where we've had a
Speaker 1: quote unquote quarterback controversy, and the locker room might be
Speaker 1: just as split as a fan base, and so when
Speaker 1: you're talking about issues of social matter, it may be
Speaker 1: no different. And that you have a hundred different opinions
Speaker 1: and you've only got any guys because one guy may
Speaker 1: have two pinions that he's not sure which way to think,
Speaker 1: you know, so uh, challenging time, certainly. I know that
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was posed the question about could there be
Speaker 1: games that will not be played in the season, and
Speaker 1: Pete put it quite simply, he said, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're gonna have to see. And
Speaker 1: and Pete has been I think a very supportive member
Speaker 1: of the player's voice and all of this, and uh
Speaker 1: and and Pete is not afraid and never has been afraid.
Speaker 1: And I know Pete, I've been around him a long time.
Speaker 1: He's never been afraid of addressing social issues. And I commend,
Speaker 1: commend Doug Maron for not having any fear whatsoever addressing it.
Speaker 1: And you could also see a little bit of a
Speaker 1: pained expression with Doug Moron today and that you know,
Speaker 1: as he said, he said, you know, in a position
Speaker 1: of leadership, sometimes you want to create actual change, but
Speaker 1: you know you're sometimes not sure what to do. So
Speaker 1: tough position to be in. And I credit a lot
Speaker 1: of the players in the league for for taking action,
Speaker 1: and but I think we've got to find a way
Speaker 1: to make sure that the action is going to be productive. Well,
Speaker 1: all I know is that the conversations continue. The Jaguar
Speaker 1: has canceled all football matters the rest of the day
Speaker 1: after practice and a team meeting started around three o'clock
Speaker 1: today and apparently is expected to go for a little while.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a time limit on that one tonight.
Speaker 1: So the conversation continues amongst the Jacksonville Jaguars today, though
Speaker 1: they did get the practice in today. Let's come back
Speaker 1: in a moment and we'll hear from Doug Moron again
Speaker 1: a little more about this morning. We'll get into football. There's,
Speaker 1: as we said, like it's two weeks from the season,
Speaker 1: a scrimmage coming up Saturday, and a lot still to
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Speaker 1: we touched on this last segment, but it's I think
Speaker 1: it's worth noting again and maybe with a little more
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Speaker 1: But then you throw in the pandemic COVID nineteen and
Speaker 1: everything that happened. No offseason program, it's all virtual. Nothing
Speaker 1: on the field. Um, you've got a young team, right,
Speaker 1: twelve Draft picks. There were thirty rookies on the roster
Speaker 1: in the off season. That's a lot of youth in
Speaker 1: a pandemic and all that, and then all the social
Speaker 1: justice initiatives that are starting to come back around again
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and then now during training camp.
Speaker 1: That is a lot on a head coaches plate and
Speaker 1: GM's plate, especially in a year where they're kind of
Speaker 1: up against it logs. I mean, they've got to win
Speaker 1: some games here. There's a lot going on right now,
Speaker 1: especially for for Doug Moron. Yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: tremendous talent in a challenging ear. And let me just
Speaker 1: add this here too, because you know, with with the
Speaker 1: news that we're talking about now, it seems to be
Speaker 1: at the forefront a lot of conversation that's going on
Speaker 1: in our country right now. Oh, by the way, there
Speaker 1: was a hurricane that just went through and affected the
Speaker 1: residents of Louisiana, Texas and also parts north of there,
Speaker 1: And so thoughts and prayers go out to those affected
Speaker 1: from Hurricane Laura, because I know that a lot of
Speaker 1: the conversation right now is not about that, and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to think that you know, you
Speaker 1: forget about them in that type of situation because we've
Speaker 1: been through that before dealing with Hurricane So just just
Speaker 1: a quick thought on that. Yeah, that's a good point
Speaker 1: and that that was not on the list at least
Speaker 1: in the Jaguars world yet, but it has been in
Speaker 1: the past. Yes, that's that's the I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that knock on wood and I've got a table
Speaker 1: right here that we don't really have to deal with
Speaker 1: directly this year. Now, the football logs were two weeks
Speaker 1: away from the first NFL game, so you know that's
Speaker 1: that's coming in hot all of a sudden. The Jags
Speaker 1: have a scrimmage on Saturday at the stadium and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna shut down training camp mode. The media won't
Speaker 1: be allowed out there after stretched really at that point
Speaker 1: of individual work, they'll be out of there. So regular
Speaker 1: season rules are back in effect. You know this is uh,
Speaker 1: you're at this point now where it's two weeks um
Speaker 1: at some point that Hey's got to be in the
Speaker 1: barn and an opening day you'll you'll tee it up
Speaker 1: at at one o'clock on the thirteenth September. Well, when
Speaker 1: you when you say the hay is in the barn.
Speaker 1: The hey can actually mean a lot of different things. Um,
Speaker 1: it could mean your roster, it could mean your preparation,
Speaker 1: it could mean your game plans, it could mean your
Speaker 1: physical health and well being. I mean, there's there's not
Speaker 1: a lot that's to affect any kind of of change
Speaker 1: in football between now and the opener, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens
Speaker 1: once you get into the regular season JP. And kind
Speaker 1: of what I'm referring to here is that every team
Speaker 1: right now is kind of operating under the shroud of secrecy,
Speaker 1: and that you're you're not the performance of your players,
Speaker 1: the performance of your team, the scheme of your team.
Speaker 1: None of that is getting out and put on film
Speaker 1: because there's no preseason games and nothing's getting publicized. Obviously,
Speaker 1: local media is restricted in every market as far as
Speaker 1: you know, how in depth that they can go and
Speaker 1: describing what they're seeing on the practice field, including everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's it's team media or it's it's
Speaker 1: local print media or TV media. So what happens when
Speaker 1: you get to cut down time and you've got to
Speaker 1: make a decision of who the fifty three are gonna be,
Speaker 1: and who the sixteen are gonna be on your practice squad,
Speaker 1: and and what kind of change do you have, because
Speaker 1: you know, in a normal year, when you're having an
Speaker 1: organization that is essentially undergoing a rebuild, like we kind
Speaker 1: of consider what the Jaguars are doing now because of
Speaker 1: the commitment to youth and and the number of subtractions
Speaker 1: compared to what the additions are. They are clearly in
Speaker 1: that mode of trying to to rebuild a football team
Speaker 1: and trying to win at the same time. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but when you have that situation, you typically
Speaker 1: have a football team like the Jaguars in the position
Speaker 1: they're in that they're gonna go out and they're gonna
Speaker 1: get other players from the other teams and be able
Speaker 1: to kind of scalt what those players that they have
Speaker 1: had scouting reports on from college and compare that to
Speaker 1: what their performance has been in the preseason. And there's
Speaker 1: always been maybe oh four or five, maybe up to
Speaker 1: seven roster changes right before you get to committing to
Speaker 1: what your fifty three are gonna be going into opening week,
Speaker 1: because you're changing out a few phases and names prior
Speaker 1: to that opener with guys from other teams, So how
Speaker 1: much of that will happen? Uh, So that's kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit of a curiosity to me. And uh
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what's gonna happen. And they've called
Speaker 1: well in the scouts, I mean, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: refer probably more so back to what their rating system
Speaker 1: was prior to the draft, and there really hasn't been
Speaker 1: any update to that because they haven't seen the player
Speaker 1: and maybe the Giants camp or the Saints camp or
Speaker 1: whatever team that the player that they like is residing
Speaker 1: at currently now, you know. To that point, I blazed
Speaker 1: over a story today that the Bills were looking at
Speaker 1: media reports of other teams come cut time, and I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, that's not news that happens all the
Speaker 1: time anyway, Like there's somebody in every department that looks
Speaker 1: at every clipping, every media report to see if there's
Speaker 1: something maybe they've missed in scouting anyway, but this year
Speaker 1: becomes oh so much more important. If they see something,
Speaker 1: some kind of bit in another team's media, maybe that
Speaker 1: could tip them off that they like a guy. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, so de Rock Mike Groco, who's Jaguars beat writer.
Speaker 1: He better knock it off. He better stop talking about
Speaker 1: all these you know, these hidden gems that the Jaguars have,
Speaker 1: and and uh and all the other reporters as well.
Speaker 1: You know, he's carline all those guys. Man stop at
Speaker 1: Brett Martin. No, stop, you can't do that. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: but didn't I just read today that there was a
Speaker 1: team's media member of the Buffalo Bills. That right, that's
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. He got fired because he was
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker okay on a radio show and was talking
Speaker 1: about scheme and also the performance of the players. Did
Speaker 1: I read that correctly? That's right? Well, Chris Brown is
Speaker 1: his name, and he's he's been there for a long
Speaker 1: long time with the Bills and hosts the radio show
Speaker 1: and is a writer for the team website and contributed
Speaker 1: basically like we're doing, you know. But it would be
Speaker 1: the equivalent of John Osan getting whacked or getting sent
Speaker 1: out of practice right for a while. So basically was
Speaker 1: talking about some things on a radio show that apparently
Speaker 1: the Bills did not want him or anyone to discuss,
Speaker 1: and the Bills took action internally. It sounds like interesting,
Speaker 1: I mean, and interesting and Uh, you know, I look
Speaker 1: at football's not rocket science. Um, but I totally understand that.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to be talking about you know,
Speaker 1: maybe all of a sudden, there's some guy that is
Speaker 1: having a phenomenal camp, and but you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of phenomenal guys at that position, and you'd like to
Speaker 1: find a way maybe to sneak him on the practice
Speaker 1: squad or or maybe find a way to Uh. And
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. If you have a guy that's
Speaker 1: performing really well and you're stacked at a position, so
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes you'd like to get the word out. So
Speaker 1: maybe you tell your your in house media, hey man,
Speaker 1: spread the word that Joe Schmo is having a heck
Speaker 1: of a camp, because we want to maybe trade Joe
Speaker 1: Schmo or trade the other guy, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it can kind of be a two way street, you know.
Speaker 1: And unfortunate that what happened to the guy in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hopefully that doesn't happen to anybody
Speaker 1: else like me or you or me, Yeah, neither one
Speaker 1: of us, nobody on this staff. We don't want that happen.
Speaker 1: And let's come back. Um. And but Tony Boselli is
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Speaker 1: something was gonna happen. Um was I prepared for it? Um?
Speaker 1: Not prepared in a way of, you know, knowing what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say or anything of that nature. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of guy. I'm more of just
Speaker 1: talking from my heart and talking about how I feel
Speaker 1: and you know, and and that's what I did with
Speaker 1: the with the team head coach Doug Maron after practice today,
Speaker 1: meeting with the media and welcome back to Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on this Thursday. J P. Shadrick Jeff Lockman will
Speaker 1: have the Doug Moron Show coming up at the top
Speaker 1: of the hour. Dave Caldwell, general manager for the jag
Speaker 1: steps in for the head coach today. Tony Basselli noted
Speaker 1: left tackle steps in now Tony, good afternoon, What's up?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Fellas? Just recapping a busy day around
Speaker 1: t I A. A. Bank Field, Tony the I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've heard by now. The Jaguars moved back practice today
Speaker 1: and there were questions of even going out to the
Speaker 1: practice field. Some other teams around the league. We're calling
Speaker 1: off practices today in response to what happened in Wisconsin
Speaker 1: a few days ago. And of course, the NBA games
Speaker 1: were all postponed last night and again tonight, and apparently
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're gonna start playing post postseason games again.
Speaker 1: The NBA s some Major League Baseball games, but the
Speaker 1: Jags had a big meeting this morning about it and
Speaker 1: a team vote, and by one vote, apparently, according to
Speaker 1: Chris Conley, the Jaguars decided to go to practice and
Speaker 1: not just part of the team that the rest of
Speaker 1: the guys who voted no went out there too. That
Speaker 1: kind of tells you that's a big moment early in
Speaker 1: a team's formation, right, Tony, when all of a sudden
Speaker 1: that's that divided. Yeah, it's it's interesting. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: obviously you know since uh, I mean not just since
Speaker 1: the George Floyd uh situation which happened in Minneapolis, and
Speaker 1: now with the young man in Wisconsin, Jacob Blake. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you know you hate to see you and I
Speaker 1: think Chris Conley said it very well. You value, we
Speaker 1: need to value like in all lives, and you don't
Speaker 1: like to see anyone lose their life. And and obviously
Speaker 1: there's a lot of information that needs to be found
Speaker 1: out and investigated everything else, and um, but regardless of
Speaker 1: how it happened, the ending is bad and it's not good,
Speaker 1: and it were very uh, it seems like a very
Speaker 1: divided at times on some of these really big issues.
Speaker 1: And I think the players were trying to find their
Speaker 1: voice and find you know, how how can they because
Speaker 1: they're frustrated, and how can they respond to it in
Speaker 1: a meaningful way? UM. I thought it was interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys talk about this.
Speaker 1: Bruce arians said something that I thought was pretty well said,
Speaker 1: you know that people need to take action. UM. But
Speaker 1: you know, in his experience, and he says all the
Speaker 1: way back to the sixties. He's obviously a little bit
Speaker 1: older than us. Uh, probably he didn't see protesting doing
Speaker 1: too much, but that we need to take action, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's given to a cause or getting involved in
Speaker 1: a cause that's gonna bring about real change. And and
Speaker 1: it made me think. And and it was right around
Speaker 1: the time of the Jaguars making the decision whether they're
Speaker 1: going to practice or not outing, which I find you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting of a way to make a decision. And
Speaker 1: also you know several of the other teams UM not practicing,
Speaker 1: and we saw at the NBA did I guess my
Speaker 1: question would be whether you practice or not, or whether
Speaker 1: you play an NBA game yesterday or not, because now
Speaker 1: they're gonna play. Um, as you said, JP, what what
Speaker 1: is the what are what's the purpose? What do you
Speaker 1: what are what is the end goal that you're trying
Speaker 1: to accomplish by not practicing? UM? What is that going
Speaker 1: to change by not practicing? UM? Is it? You know?
Speaker 1: You could argue it's gonna bring more attention to the issue.
Speaker 1: I would argue that there's a lot of attention right
Speaker 1: now on the issue. Now are we getting where we
Speaker 1: need to go fast enough? You know? You could argue
Speaker 1: not not even close UM, which happens a lot of
Speaker 1: times in this country when something becomes political and there's
Speaker 1: you know, and everything around the election and the circumstances
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in right now. But I kept on
Speaker 1: asking myself, guys, like, what, like the NBA not playing,
Speaker 1: is that going to change anything? A team not practicing
Speaker 1: is that going to change anything? I think the only
Speaker 1: way we see real change is that you have to
Speaker 1: have real, hard, honest conversations UM where people can influence
Speaker 1: change and bring about changes, whether it's you know, reform
Speaker 1: around how people, uh police happens, racial inequality or whatever,
Speaker 1: um of the issues that we want to address. But
Speaker 1: it has to be I think bigger than just sitting
Speaker 1: at a game UM or a practice. And so I
Speaker 1: kind of found myself wondering and and then circling back
Speaker 1: to what Bruce Arians said is that like as a player,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of players in the NFL
Speaker 1: do this in the in the n B A uh,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a Lebron James starting schools or
Speaker 1: people giving the found local foundations or whatever. That's how
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make really meaningful change. Um. And
Speaker 1: then you know, and then you work your way up
Speaker 1: into the you know, into the government, local starting local government,
Speaker 1: all the way up to try to make uh significant
Speaker 1: changes of major issues. But I mean sitting out of
Speaker 1: practice not sure. I'm not sure what message that sends,
Speaker 1: UM two people right, So UM, the Jaguars voted to
Speaker 1: practice today by one vote. They were out there at
Speaker 1: the full time a little bit later today it started
Speaker 1: at eleven five instead of this morning, and meetings continue
Speaker 1: this afternoon. And this will be part it sounds like,
Speaker 1: as we heard a couple of months ago, this will
Speaker 1: be part of how um the Jaguars have to operate
Speaker 1: from really maybe the rest of the season. Doug Maron
Speaker 1: said they're going to carve out time for conversations like this,
Speaker 1: and today it was I felt like it was certainly
Speaker 1: needed and they will continue. So let's I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's right. I mean I think Doug, trying to
Speaker 1: do you know, the best, began to lead and to
Speaker 1: encourage conversation and to allow players to share their frustrations.
Speaker 1: Um but I would I would encourage is not allow
Speaker 1: the frustrations and the conversations to lead to action, like
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this so because we want to accomplish this.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna excellent, we accomplished Why whatever that y is,
Speaker 1: we're you as an individual, as a team, or as
Speaker 1: an organization, whatever it is. Because um because I think
Speaker 1: the most important thing that we need to see happen
Speaker 1: is using a football kind of metaphor, if you need
Speaker 1: to see the you know, the ball moved down the
Speaker 1: field in making progress. And so I hope that in
Speaker 1: all these conversations and for all of us, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we should all be having these conversations amongst
Speaker 1: our families and friends and and then you know, in
Speaker 1: our communities. Um but we're talking about sports today, whether
Speaker 1: it's the NFL or the NBA or any other major
Speaker 1: leagues uh professional sport, the frustration is genuine and it's
Speaker 1: real and the feelings are real. Um, but I hope
Speaker 1: it leads to some solution, um that that we say
Speaker 1: we're gonna do whatever, stand, We're gonna take whatever protesting,
Speaker 1: which is what makes this country great. You've ability to
Speaker 1: do that. Um, Well, they're missing a playoff game or
Speaker 1: a practice whatever, or the conversation that Doug is gonna
Speaker 1: facilitate to have those conversations. Those are all good, but
Speaker 1: they have to lead to some action, um that initiate
Speaker 1: a change in my opinion. Let's move along now. Of
Speaker 1: course we've we've discussed this at good length today and
Speaker 1: these discussions will continue on this program. Certainly. Um, the
Speaker 1: guys were and Logs, you and I were just touched
Speaker 1: on this were two weeks away from football Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Football is two weeks away. Um, So what's in your
Speaker 1: guys opinion, what's left for this team to get done
Speaker 1: in camp? What is the most pressing issue on the
Speaker 1: field for this team? Logs will start with you with
Speaker 1: two weeks to go, a little over two weeks until
Speaker 1: opening day. I think offensively, it's all about timing and
Speaker 1: comfort level and kind of having that relationship between your
Speaker 1: quarterback and all of his weapons to where there's a
Speaker 1: comfort level of knowing between and this is both ways
Speaker 1: now to where Gardner knows where his guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be at and they have an expectation where he wants
Speaker 1: them to be at. So and this is something that
Speaker 1: I mean, even though you sit there and you go, boy,
Speaker 1: they've been in camp a long time and they've been
Speaker 1: practicing a long time, they really haven't. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the things I think. You go back to the
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient offenses that had incredible timing.
Speaker 1: You go back to the San Francisco forty niners when
Speaker 1: they were great under Bill Walsh and continuing on a
Speaker 1: little bit under George Seyffert, and they just had so
Speaker 1: many reps and reps and reps and reps, and that
Speaker 1: was what was one of their big things. And practice
Speaker 1: was reps because the more reps you get, the better
Speaker 1: the timing is and the better the efficiency of the
Speaker 1: offense is. And so as an offense, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars got lots of work still to do. Lots
Speaker 1: of work still do because if you take into account
Speaker 1: the amount of time that they missed from the O
Speaker 1: t as to the mini camps, et cetera. And now
Speaker 1: they're trying to make up for lost time here in
Speaker 1: this abbreviated training camp that doesn't have any preseason game.
Speaker 1: That's a challenge, big challenge. But they got a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do offensively. Uh, defensively, they may have
Speaker 1: some work to do from a personnel standpoint, we don't
Speaker 1: know that along the defensive front, but they certainly got
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do there with a lot
Speaker 1: of young players. They've got a new linebacker, got a
Speaker 1: young cornerback. I mean, there's a lot of things to
Speaker 1: figure out defensively. So still, uh, the the hey JP
Speaker 1: is not necessarily in the barn yet, and they still
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do, Tony, that's a
Speaker 1: long list of Yeah, Jeff, if you say the haze
Speaker 1: down the barn yet, I think they're still cutting it.
Speaker 1: I think they're still gonna feel cutting forget about getting
Speaker 1: into the bailing it and get into the barn. We're
Speaker 1: at the beginning stages of this thing. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we for get. I mean it's um, this offseason
Speaker 1: has been so crazy, we forget that. You know, the
Speaker 1: second year quarterback, brand new offensive corn they're trying to
Speaker 1: put an offense in on the run. And Jeff, as
Speaker 1: I know you do the same as I do. As
Speaker 1: I was watching the tape today on the iPad, and
Speaker 1: you go click and you find the practice. This is
Speaker 1: the tenth training camp practice ten. That was That was
Speaker 1: week one of camp for us. And that's after O,
Speaker 1: T A s and mini camps, all things they did
Speaker 1: not have this year. That is day ten. Uh. And
Speaker 1: some of those practices are abbreviated because of you know
Speaker 1: how they had to work their way in. I think
Speaker 1: there were ninety minute padded practices so and and then
Speaker 1: you had on top of that you have maintenance days
Speaker 1: for guys. So I think we have a long way
Speaker 1: to go in a short time to get there. Is
Speaker 1: the old movie Smoking and the Bandit and and and
Speaker 1: I think Jeff's right, it's timing with the young quarterback. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, you have young players sinal as a rookie
Speaker 1: that it looks like they're gonna you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: count on him. Guy and Tyler Efford who brand new
Speaker 1: UM has never worked with the quarterback, you know, so
Speaker 1: you have a number of new pieces now you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to have that. I think one of the keys
Speaker 1: guys is gonna be that offensive line. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play well. The offensive line is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play well, and they're gonna have to run the ball
Speaker 1: learning for net because I know we love all we
Speaker 1: all love Minshu and Minshew magic and I'm all for it,
Speaker 1: like dialed up, let's get the magic going and let's
Speaker 1: watch this thing go. The bottom line is it's gonna
Speaker 1: take time, and it's not gonna be perfect early. Now.
Speaker 1: The good news is, you hope you run into some
Speaker 1: other teams that are very disorganized and have growing pains
Speaker 1: at the same time and can kind of get some
Speaker 1: sloppy plays and you get some big players offensively. But
Speaker 1: for the consistency part of it, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get the run game going and they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get you know that. That means that starts with the
Speaker 1: offensive line and then it goes right to Fortnite afterwards.
Speaker 1: And so I think that is so critical on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And then I mean, Jeff, we
Speaker 1: haven't even talked about the defense. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: go down the list of in turns and things as
Speaker 1: far as still trying to get ready, and I think
Speaker 1: it starts with the front seven um, and I'll even
Speaker 1: boil it down and starts with the front flour, and
Speaker 1: I'll even go narrower, narrower than that. It starts with
Speaker 1: the inside too. You know, I think the middle of
Speaker 1: that defense is going to get stressed, and it already
Speaker 1: is stressed with injuries and opt outs and everything else.
Speaker 1: And uh, and they're gonna have to stop the run.
Speaker 1: And so it's funny you talked about all the things
Speaker 1: and all the fun pieces, and we have some fun
Speaker 1: pieces are putting together. It comes down the good old
Speaker 1: thing that all football come down to, my opinion, can
Speaker 1: you control the line of scrimmage? Can you stop the
Speaker 1: run and run the ball? Because you can't do either
Speaker 1: one of those. It is so hard to win in
Speaker 1: this league. J P. Let me let me add something
Speaker 1: to what what Tony is talking about, because you know,
Speaker 1: you sit there and you and you think, Tony about
Speaker 1: how this football team still has a ways to go.
Speaker 1: You know what was we had the benefit when you
Speaker 1: had preseason games. You kind of had a gauge, you know,
Speaker 1: because you go against another opponent and you get feedback.
Speaker 1: You know where are we at as a team? You know?
Speaker 1: Where is our run defense? At where's our past offense at?
Speaker 1: You know, how do we measure up against this team
Speaker 1: even though we're just playing basic preseason football. Well, the
Speaker 1: one thing I think that's challenging, you're not getting that,
Speaker 1: you know. So are you maybe getting a uh false
Speaker 1: sense of security thinking that Okay, you know, we're doing
Speaker 1: pretty good in this area, or you may be getting
Speaker 1: a false sense of the opposite and that, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we're probably not doing very good in this area, but
Speaker 1: maybe you aren't doing okay. But it's it's hard because
Speaker 1: you know, if you just have home homework and homework
Speaker 1: and homeworking, you never have a test. How do you know?
Speaker 1: You know? So I think that's what's gonna make this
Speaker 1: season and this football team so intriguing because you just
Speaker 1: you have no idea. I mean you really don't. I
Speaker 1: mean you haven't had And not that we were able
Speaker 1: to judge where a team was at in the preseason anyway,
Speaker 1: I mean because a lot of times the preseason couldn't
Speaker 1: give you another total false sense of security. Going back
Speaker 1: a few years ago, Tony and I both were sitting
Speaker 1: there going put this team in bubble rapp there ready
Speaker 1: to go, and then they come out in the regular
Speaker 1: season and complete an utter failure. But but a lot
Speaker 1: of the just the individual players and where they are.
Speaker 1: That's where you you got. I think you got a
Speaker 1: pretty good understanding. Not maybe not as a team, but
Speaker 1: you can certainly gauge X player against another team in
Speaker 1: a certain situation and you don't get that benefit now. Well,
Speaker 1: Plus Jeff as a player, I enjoyed, like I didn't
Speaker 1: want four preseason games. I didn't really want two preseason games,
Speaker 1: but like two series, three series, maybe a quarter and
Speaker 1: a half out they're working against someone else. Kind of
Speaker 1: get your sea legs ready and you know, get a
Speaker 1: little bit of work. I always thought that was nice
Speaker 1: because after camp. I mean, I'll think back when even
Speaker 1: as a young player, you and I were practicing against
Speaker 1: each other. Back after the first week, I knew what
Speaker 1: movie you're gonna do, and I knew that what you
Speaker 1: like do you like to chop? And you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna change it up every once in a while with
Speaker 1: the bull and inside move, And I mean I knew
Speaker 1: who Jeff Walkin was, so I'd start setting and doing
Speaker 1: things to block deth loggingman. Well, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're blocking you know, you know, a speed rusher, a
Speaker 1: light guy who's outside running a hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Like it's just nice to get a different feel and
Speaker 1: see a different guy across from you in a game situation,
Speaker 1: because like game situations as an offensive linement, I'll speak
Speaker 1: for me. Like in practice, I knew like Logs wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna hit the quarterback because if he did, there was
Speaker 1: gonna be a big fight, and I was gonna whip.
Speaker 1: As we're in for hitting the quarterback in a game,
Speaker 1: you know, it's live, you're going, you're going through the whistle.
Speaker 1: I just I think that that stuff matters, and especially
Speaker 1: for a young team. Now if we're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger and a vetan offensive
Speaker 1: line like the castro and pouncing and these guys have
Speaker 1: been around forever. You know, I'm not as concerned like
Speaker 1: you'd like it. But these guys will figure it out
Speaker 1: and get through it maybe a little bit better. Um,
Speaker 1: but we got such a young team and you know,
Speaker 1: and so there's gonna be some growing pains and they
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do, and they got
Speaker 1: a short you know, not a lot of time to
Speaker 1: get there and opening weekend, I'm looking. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, but it's gonna be interesting because
Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect. I don't think
Speaker 1: any of us do. But I know one thing. You
Speaker 1: you misspoke there, Tony. You said you blocked Jeff Loghuman,
Speaker 1: and we all know that Jeff Loghman is unblockable, okay, JP.
Speaker 1: Tony was being nice and he said, okay, I got
Speaker 1: used to blocking Logman. He was. If he was being
Speaker 1: totally honest, he would have said, I needed to get
Speaker 1: a guy that had more speed and had more power
Speaker 1: so that I could get used to sing other guys
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. And for me, I wanted
Speaker 1: to see an offensive tackle that I could beat so
Speaker 1: I could get some continents scoring into the season. No,
Speaker 1: but it's but it all joke aside. Like like Logs,
Speaker 1: I was like, like I would set with when I
Speaker 1: blocked blog I was not set in deep like Logs,
Speaker 1: like he's never beating me around the corner. Like it
Speaker 1: was like never even worried about it. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I knew I was athletic enough to recover, but I
Speaker 1: did worry about I better play my hand slow because
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to chop the crap out of him
Speaker 1: and use leverage. And I knew that I better be
Speaker 1: ready for the ball, which, by the way, Logs, you
Speaker 1: couldn't do that bull anymore with the new rules that
Speaker 1: just came out. How they're gonna emphasize defensive linement lower
Speaker 1: in the head the bull rush. And so, dude, I mean,
Speaker 1: and so, but I knew that was one of the
Speaker 1: things Logs was gonna do. And but and that was
Speaker 1: great work. But you also know you're gonna face all
Speaker 1: different kinds of guys and listen, it's never perfect in
Speaker 1: training camp. But if you look in the past, even
Speaker 1: last year for this team, you gotta gote to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: you got the preseason, you're practicing against other teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are all valuable situations for two things. One guy's
Speaker 1: get ready to play a game. But I think we're
Speaker 1: also discounting for a coaching staff in a front office
Speaker 1: to evaluate your roster, Like I have no idea watching
Speaker 1: the practices that I've watched, how are you gonna how
Speaker 1: are you gonna evaluate that bottom ten? You know, so
Speaker 1: from from forty five to fifty five of your roster
Speaker 1: this year, and I mean Joe di Camillis has a
Speaker 1: tough job to build the special teams out and find
Speaker 1: those guys, um because you usually find those guys in
Speaker 1: pre seasons. All right, let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Flogman, Tony Baselli. Let's go around
Speaker 1: the National Football League quickly and start in Washington, where
Speaker 1: a lot of news has come out of that city
Speaker 1: in the NFL in the last six months. Especially The
Speaker 1: Post on Wednesday reported additional examples of workplace sexual harassment
Speaker 1: and made allegations and owner Dan Snyder was personally involved
Speaker 1: and reported a former cheerleader said that Snyder had invited
Speaker 1: her to a hotel room with one of his friends.
Speaker 1: There were extra cheerleading videos made especially for the owner.
Speaker 1: Snyder has since released a statement denying those allegations. Tony, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of smoke coming out of Washington.
Speaker 1: Washington football team and my guess is if the NFL
Speaker 1: digs into this and they come up with anything, uh
Speaker 1: that any of this is true based off the investigation
Speaker 1: they're doing, you're gonna see Daniel Snyder forced to sell
Speaker 1: or pressure pressure to sell. UM. I just don't think. Listen,
Speaker 1: number one, it's wrong. You know, in a leadership position,
Speaker 1: you should not use that influence to try to get
Speaker 1: um any sort of sexual favors or harassment or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It's uncalled for. There's no place for it.
Speaker 1: And I think if it is true, we'll wait and see,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's until proven guilty. UM, I think
Speaker 1: there'll be so much pressure and he'll have to sell
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, just a real, real quick thought on
Speaker 1: that JP. Obviously, Daniel Snyder has denied the allegations. The
Speaker 1: big concern there for me is that the league has
Speaker 1: allowed the Redskins to do their own investigation. And how
Speaker 1: in the world can an investigation be impartial if it's
Speaker 1: done by the team. Such a good point, Jeb, I think.
Speaker 1: I think if if the league was smart, they'd get
Speaker 1: their own investigator in there immediately and do an independent investigation.
Speaker 1: You can't let the guy pick the guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: investigate him. That's right, and we'll see what the next
Speaker 1: steps are in Washington. Back to football now, Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: out of practice with my grains. But Joe Mixon also
Speaker 1: wants a new contract and does not have it. You had.
Speaker 1: He missed practice Wednesday, not planning on practicing Thursday. But
Speaker 1: he has consecutive seasons, three straight seasons of thousand yards rushing.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is one of the top running backs right Tony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if he's one of the top. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's He's not Alvin Camaro to me. Um,
Speaker 1: he's not a catfree to me. I'm not sure he's
Speaker 1: Dalvin cooked to me because I think he's Uh, he's
Speaker 1: a good running back. I don't know if he's great
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. I don't And Jeff, maybe you
Speaker 1: can correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't see
Speaker 1: him as a great pass catcher. And I think to
Speaker 1: be a great back, then I'm gonna pay a bunch
Speaker 1: of money to you have to be multi pascitt I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to really be able to stress at the
Speaker 1: vince in different ways. And so, um, he's a good player.
Speaker 1: Depends how much money he wants, is what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: paper or not. That's a tough position to to try
Speaker 1: to kind of create your own leverage to get a contract.
Speaker 1: And uh, by the way, JP, I'm starting to get
Speaker 1: a headache. Can can you Tony handle the Doug Morone show?
Speaker 1: Do you want any contract to? Oh? I'm probably overpaid already.
Speaker 1: Let's let's one more note here before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. Um. Bengals quarterback Mackenzie Alexander's father was found
Speaker 1: alive after three days missing. He had been missing since
Speaker 1: Monday night after a berry picking trip down in southwest Florida.
Speaker 1: He walked up to a ranger station at the Cassimi
Speaker 1: Prairie Preserve State Park at seven am and good health.
Speaker 1: And that's great news, guys. Yeah, I love I loved
Speaker 1: to act like the question like what you do for
Speaker 1: three days? Like where were you? Like, I mean, he's out.
Speaker 1: And here's the indesting thing. His son left practice. He
Speaker 1: went down and there's an assault charge against him for
Speaker 1: him going after the last man who saw his dad.
Speaker 1: So crazy story. I mean, you wonder if you ever
Speaker 1: actually get to the bottle of it. It was and
Speaker 1: we know he had berries used to eat, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So he made it through a very picking trip, but
Speaker 1: good news that he's alive. Logs will talk to you
Speaker 1: the second Bob, We'll talk to you next week. Tony
Speaker 1: was Cli and Jeff logging and I'm j P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: The Doug Barone Show coming up with Dave Caldwell The GM.
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