1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I've never told your protection of I Heart Radio, and 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: today we're very excited to be joined by the host 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: of the podcast Truth Hounds, Anna and Kyle. Hi, Anna 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and Kyle, thanks so much for being here. Hi guys, 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: thanks for having us. Hi, thank you. We've already been 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: on a bit of an adventure in this virtual podcast space. 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I've got to say, I know, I feel like we 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: recorded another whole episode right before this episode really did. Yeah. Yeah, 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: we were stuck in some stairs. Yeah, I have a 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: bad habit of starting a juncle. I'm like so excited 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: and old people's and then you guys are so fun 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and yes, put us on some like stone stairs. Only 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: ahead appeared. It was some kind of together MO would 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: miss misshap malfunction, I don't know, but we were like 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: ghostly figures in some stairs for several minutes. We took 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you outside and I had a little conversation, you know, 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: so you did, which we appreciate because we were discussing 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: how we're jealous that the two of you get to 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: record at a beach and apparently not just as a 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: one time thing, but a multiple time thing. Yeah, I 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: was saying before that we were we were told by 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: our producers that we didn't have to go to the 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: beach and that there was a simple way to recreate that, 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: but we refused and said we actually would like to 26 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: go to the beach. Yeah, we were every time. We 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: were kind of very polite and we were totally understanding 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: of where they're coming from. And then we said, and 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your perspective, and then we 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: would really rather not. I feel like the beach is 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: a necessity to the chemistry. Again, I'm really jealous of that. Well, 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: we're on the beach and we go, oh, it's so beautiful. 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: We just wanted to make sure that that was coming 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: from a genuine place, and we were actually looking out 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: at the beach when we were saying, yeah, I feel 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: like we are great actors and yet um, some of 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: the best acting just comes from, you know, truthful. So 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: that's took it acting. Yeah, it's very wise. And here 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: you're taking notes at so just go to the beach 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: and then you talk about the beach and then you 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: know Oscar, so oh yeah, find your truth complicated. My 42 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: whole history is going to be written based on this advice. 43 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm very very happy, uh that it's kind of my 44 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: way this award. So we really let's let's introduce the 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: two of you to your audience, if you don't mind 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: telling us a little bit about yourselves. I'm Kyle and 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: this say Anna perfect again. I don't know, I feel 48 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: like I want to do it together. We are doing 49 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: it together. So we have a podcast called The Truth Hounds, 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: which is available right now, our first season, and we 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: are we are what do you call it when you're 52 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: sort of not professional? What's the opposite work? Think amateur amateur. 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: So we're amateur investigator with a lot of hearts. So 54 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of how much heart in a 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: sense of humor, which is always important, which is I 56 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: mean not even objective, it's just there. So that's factual, 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: So leave that alone. And our podcast is just basically 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: about investigating. Actually, we used to say they were some 59 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: of the smallest mysteries, but they're actually huge mysteries. Yeah, 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: we're really key. Did We don't want to shoot ourselves 61 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: in the foot there. It's not that they're insignificant mysteries 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: that they're they're they're actually so significant that you take 63 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: them for granted. I think, Yeah, they're kind of just 64 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: like universal things that you might think about but and 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: think about. Huh, I wonder why that is, but you 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: probably won't do anything about that. So we actually found 67 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: ourselves a lot of time on our hands and we decided, hey, 68 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I think we can do this and 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: we're going to investigate these things. Yeah. For example, like 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: you go, well, I know, gravity just works, end of story, 71 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, but we go, but we go but why 72 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, so why is that? Why is that? And again, 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: to just really highlight, we have a lot of time 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: on our hands, so we're sitting around luxuriating and time 75 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: going do you know, let's look into that. So that 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: sounds like the three am question with your friends where 77 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: you're like, right, but why is pizza so good? Absolutely, 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: when you're into the edible and everything comes to a lot, 79 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, but what we've had those moments. But yeah, 80 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: I you know, as I was listening to your podcasts, 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: your some of your episodes y'all are really fun because 82 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: one of the big things that you do talk about 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: is that you've already had this friendship and can kind 84 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: of read uh with each other, like what's going on? 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: How things are going and and kind of being able 86 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: to plot together even though you may not have talked 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: about it. The next steps and you're in sync. Can 88 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: you kind of talk about how you guys met and 89 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: how you became such a great friends. We're both from comedy, 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: and so we met through comedy. So we both came 91 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: from uh, stand up backgrounds, and so we actually probably 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the way that that I feel like stand up is 93 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: is like you just crossed paths with people over many, 94 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: many years. So we probably have known each other for 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: like I want to say, almost a decade or something 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: crazy like that, and yeah, we would just I think 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: even before Anna lived in Los Angeles shoes in San 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Francisco doing stand up, and I would just see her 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: on shows and so like over time, you just sort 100 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: of like I think, like you just know someone for 101 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: so long and maybe you're just kind of acquaintances, but 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: then like you know, you become friends and kind of 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: I think, I hope it's not too much to share here, 104 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: because from San Francisco start to give it away, like, Okay, 105 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: we don't come to San Francisco look for me, I 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: won't be there and honestly leave her alone. But honestly, 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: leave her alone. She's tired. But so we She lived 108 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles doing comedy. I lived in San 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Francisco doing comedy, and we actually both ran concurrently, like 110 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: two very complementary shows in in our respective cities. So 111 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: it was very funny. I think the first time proper 112 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: that we met was like our two shows had a 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: crossover event, a kind of ultimate collab, and we were 114 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: both like, we both do um and this is I'm 115 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: rolling my own eyes as I say this, but we 116 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: both do like not super traditional comedy, I think it's 117 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: safe to say. And so our shows were both like 118 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: really the point of them was to get away from 119 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: doing traditional stand up, so the prompts of that, both 120 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: the shows were like anything but stand up. And so 121 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: we had a kind of crossover event of the two shows. 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, we met during that, and then 123 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: we were often performing on the same shows or like 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I had like complimentary I think things we were doing 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: on stage, and then we started performing together. I mean, 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I guess that was much later, but we started performing together. 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: And I'll just I'll just go ahead and speak from me, Okay, 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: me Anna, why I've never this is me Anna Okay, here, 129 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I've never really been able to collaborate with another person 130 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: because it feels, I don't know, there's just such a 131 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: specific thing. I've definitely done things with other people, but 132 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: it's never been like it's just always been very laborious, 133 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: and this has felt the most like natural or very Again, 134 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm really using the word complementary probably ten times here, 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: so I'll just go ahead and make it eleven very 136 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: complimentary styles of comedy. And so it was like, I 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: don't know, very it felt very rare the end. Okay, 138 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: we're trying to see if Kyle's can come in and 139 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: say she was also very felt like it was complimentary. 140 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Don't don't find me no, I honestly, sometimes with these 141 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: kinds of questions it's better for Anna just to take 142 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: the floor because I don't I sometimes I hear I 143 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: think it's part of I have like a bit of 144 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: a learning disability to somethings. I'll hear a question and 145 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: then I'll just take it into a totally different direction, 146 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and then when I'm at the end of it, I'm like, Okay, 147 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: that was not the question. I don't know even where 148 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: I am now, So better for Anna to do that 149 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: because she'll say it succinctly. Know, but Kyle dares to dream. 150 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: So we usually will break down questions, but she dares 151 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: to dream, and then I go, you know, and then 152 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: the method or whatever. And so that's why, that's why 153 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: it's the sign of a great Yeah, collaboration and partnership. 154 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: And both of you have been, as you said, in 155 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: comedy and then some acting and now podcasting. How has 156 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: this podcasting world been for you and how has that 157 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: like collaboration translated into this format? Really? Okay, I'll take 158 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: a stab at answering a question on my own and 159 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll just be right here. Yeah, hold my hand. We 160 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: needed together mode for this, Yeah, we needed together mode 161 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: at right now. I would say it's been pretty seamless 162 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: because we've worked together on creating like shows, like live shows, 163 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: So in a way it's like we kind of had 164 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: all already had all this practice. And I think mainly 165 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: for The Truth Towns, it was just about like figuring 166 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: we had an idea of what we wanted it to 167 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: v but it was about figuring out how to actually 168 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: like make a show of it. We were so lucky 169 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: that these producers were just like believed in us and 170 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: we're like, we like what you're trying to do. But 171 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: we really had no idea. There wasn't we I don't 172 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: think there's anything that exists that's exactly like this. We 173 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: definitely have our influences, but like we just sort of 174 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: were like, this is our idea. So again, I'm probably 175 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: nowhere near the Kyle Beautiful guys for being so supportive. 176 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: Hold you up, build you up. Earlier, I was talking 177 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: about the fact that we had these giant team meetings 178 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: in which I've probably proofed up a couple of times. 179 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: But your producers Annajsnie and Miles Greg came on and 180 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: talked about your show, oh and about how excited they were, 181 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: and for them to brag about how good your comedy 182 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: is and your timing is huge because they are hilarious 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: people that intimidate the hell out of me. So every 184 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: time I talked to them, I pretend like I don't 185 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: know what's happening and just walk away because right like 186 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: just trying to hide away from them. Sorry, guys, just 187 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: uh yeah, they had set you up and talking about 188 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: how genuinely funny you are in just real life and honestly, 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: our twin minutes set up conversation because three days you 190 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: alwa set up for twenty minutes here because it was 191 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: such a fun conversation, and you too do compliment each 192 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: other so well and in such a beautiful way. It's 193 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: that I haven't heard anything discouraging. You all are so 194 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: cute and I love lifting each other. It's freaky. I'm 195 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: just kidding. I love it. But I love that. And 196 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: it also translates onto your podcast because not only are 197 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: you asking these really significant but like seemingly daily common 198 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: things like about being late, which, by the way, I 199 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: felt called out and it was rude and I didn't 200 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: like it. If what if you were called in? That's 201 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the nicer version, right, called it? This is what the 202 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: kids say, right. Called in is that the kids are 203 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: nicely told get your life together. Called out is like 204 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Go away? Right? We want 205 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: to just check out what you're doing and see why 206 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: you're doing it. And then we go all right, that's 207 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: what she's doing, you know. I mean that's and don't 208 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: go away, don't you know? Actually, because I do want 209 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: to ask about this episode, did you actually go stock 210 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: this person? Yes? Yes, I think that's what jump in? 211 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Can you'll explain this episode because I'm obviously going to 212 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: confuse everyone with that question if you haven't heard, it's 213 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 1: our first episode, and we wanted to sort of introduce 214 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: what this show is going to be. So we tried 215 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: to take a topic or a question that we felt 216 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: was like the most most sincd maybe like the most 217 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: like official, like could be science if you're not paying attention, 218 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, which is kind of what happened. But yeah, 219 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote in and they were like, 220 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: I listened to this show because I wanted to get 221 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: like a scientific the reason of why this is. And 222 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: we're like, we're actually not someone then, and they were like, 223 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: I thought that they would touch on the phenomenon of 224 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: the of the person who I mean, I'm sorry that 225 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing a voice, but I thought there was a 226 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: phenomenon of the whatever that has a name, Like I 227 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: was looking for answers, and it seemed like they already 228 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: knew the answer, and so they could just definitely go 229 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: start their own podcast. Some people that will go onto 230 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: a review and be like, actually, yeah, actually they knew 231 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: in some ways different ways more than us, so more 232 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: than us. Well, So basically we decided to investigate why 233 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: there are some people who are always late, because I 234 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: think everyone has someone in their life who I mean, 235 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that person, because I think, as we say 236 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: on the show repeatedly, Anna and I are never late. 237 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: We are we actually show up on time, although today 238 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: I will say there were some malfunctioning issues, so that 239 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really I mean, I think actually maybe it's okay 240 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: to even say that. Throughout the season something she's got it. Actually, yes, 241 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: actually Anna has weirdly since that episode become later and later, 242 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: later and later. Sometimes it's just a minute, but sometimes 243 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: it's about five. So at some point we're gonna have 244 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: to go back and do like a where are they now? 245 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Episode and be like, where's Anna now? She's actually ten 246 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes late. Exactly where are they now? They're 247 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: actually not here because they're running late. She's running late. 248 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: But we decided to investigate lateness, and and so it's 249 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: sort of the episode takes us in sort of like 250 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of different directions. We set up a focus group. 251 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: Because it was COVID, we couldn't actually meet with people. 252 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: We basically found a bunch of strangers who identified themselves 253 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: as late people, and we just sat in a zoom 254 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: room with them, which was really fun, and then we 255 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: did a sort of like right along with a person 256 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: who was late on his way to meet a friend, 257 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: because that's usually when a late person will be late, 258 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: is on the way to see their friend. Yeah, And 259 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,239 Speaker 1: I think that's like the fun thing about our investigations. 260 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: We sort of start with the idea and then we 261 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: just like it kind of takes us in sort of 262 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of different directions, so we can sort of 263 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: understand the idea. Yeah, And a lot of times it's 264 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: nice because the way our quote unquote scientific method or 265 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: whatever you can tell how scientific it is, um, is 266 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: just like ranges from oh, what would what would like, 267 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: what would be a fun way? What it would be 268 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: our way of looking at this, and then on the 269 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum, what would be fun for 270 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: us to do? And so I think it actually just 271 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: ends up happening that, um, we are like, what's the 272 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: thing that we'd like to do and would that fit thematically? 273 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: And so it becomes an excuse. I think the reason 274 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: why it works so effortlessly is because it's just a 275 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: continuation of us hanging out honestly, Um, But like the 276 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: clocked in going to work version, you know, but it's like, 277 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna I mean, I guess I'm gonna 278 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: spill a little bit of beans. We haven't done this yet, 279 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: but we were like, well, what would be really fun 280 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: is if we had an excuse to go in a 281 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: hot air balloon, so like like in podcasts from the 282 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Hot air Balloon and podcast from the Hot air Balloon. 283 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: So that's like, you know, yeah, we'll do anything for science, 284 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: but also that's the thing we would like to do. 285 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: So I love that idea. Yeah, pay for me to 286 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: do this because I want to do this, but we'll 287 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: do it for the show exactly. We don't do that 288 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: at all, do we? Any you gotta do? Just wanted 289 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: a hot air balloon, I mean just want Yeah, of course, 290 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: okay without the hot air balloon. Problem is we're not 291 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: as like you guys are very professional in how you 292 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: record and how you sound. So for us, if we 293 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: we actually do the hot air balloon, it's probably gonna 294 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: be like the worst sound ever because we just do 295 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: it and then we like to figure it out later. 296 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe hyperventilating from me as I'm not to 297 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: pass out and you're holding the mic as I fall 298 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: in the fetal position, So that could be fun. Yeah. 299 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, so in your episodes, you actually do interact 300 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: and talk to these people, which, by the way, your 301 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: description of how you see these people hilarious. I love it. 302 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: You're like the shirt thanks him where essentially with a 303 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: fantastic Well have these people who are on there, have 304 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: they listened to it? And have they commented about your 305 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: commentary at all? I've I've really tried to get an 306 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: opinion out of the participants, and you know, I've been like, 307 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: you're you're on, You're on this week's show, and you're 308 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: actually a really big part of it and I and 309 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: I even can't wait to hear what you think. And 310 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: the responses have been you know, ha ha um no 311 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: real I'm gonna say no, real insight. So yeah, I 312 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: been really cool about it, very cool about it. In 313 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: the late episode, we have one of my favorite descriptions 314 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: about Mia, and this is the late person's friend who 315 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: they're going to meet, and I think the description is like, um, 316 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: she was gorgeous. She's like the type of girl that 317 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: you know, we plan your your ultimate bridesmaid brides Yeah, 318 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: she's the ultimate bridesmaid. You know, she's the one who 319 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: sets up everything, organizes everything. But you know, check out 320 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the dance floor. She's also on the dance floor breaking 321 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, she's doing the place car. She's like 322 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: doing the place cars. But damn, she's also got moves. 323 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, she's cool and partying effortless. Yeah. Um, well, 324 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I think we ran into her, and so I think 325 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: we did say, like, what did you think of? Like 326 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: you like your description of how we described you. I 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: think she really liked it. But again, she didn't have 328 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: much to say about it. But but I take it 329 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: as she really liked it. Yeah, I can't help but 330 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: think she loved it, and so we'll just go ahead. 331 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: She loved it? Like that description. I feel like that 332 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: makes me also nervous, me like when people actually meet me, 333 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: or that people who actually know maybe like that's a 334 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: damn lie while lying about you mistrustful? Okay, interesting, Well 335 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: I love like I mean, I I selfishly also love 336 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: like Serrial. Any any investigative podcast. I'm there, I'm listening. 337 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't even care what it's about, specifically. What I 338 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: love is their cadence. A lot of times it's just 339 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: so to me. It's so funny, but it's also when 340 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be funny, it's like painfully not and 341 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: then you know, just whatever. It's like just a very 342 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: very fast, sinating way of speaking. And the way Sarah 343 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Kaneig specifically described like everyone she encountered is always like, 344 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: I guess I'm thinking of like the main the main 345 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: character of the first season none, but she was like, 346 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: and he's I mean, it's really not about this, but 347 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: he's do ide. He's gorgeous. I mean you look at him, 348 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: you're reminded of a beautiful calf who is also a model, 349 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, I hope someone describes 350 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: me as a beautiful calf in a model. So it's 351 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: a calf and it's not threatening, but it's also a model, 352 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: so you definitely are like, Wow, they're gorgeous. I want 353 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: to put you in my magazine. I want to put 354 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: you in my magazine and also my stable at the 355 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: same time, in my stall. That's so stupid. It's a 356 00:20:48,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: calf that I was gonna ask if you were into 357 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: these kind of investigative podcast and true crime and your 358 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: experience when it comes to like entering that world as 359 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: women both as the investigators being the investigated, perhaps because um, 360 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of areas in podcasting when you think 361 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: of true crime, not many women involved. And I was 362 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: thinking about how a lot of times with true crime, 363 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: which I haven't listened to a lot of, so I 364 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: could be totally off my perception as somebody from the 365 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: outside is a lot of times it's about women getting 366 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: killed and like men talking about that, which I again, 367 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I could be totally off, but I was just interested 368 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: in your experience and thoughts around that. I think, Kyle, 369 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's fair to say you famously tell them how 370 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: many podcasts you listen to. Um, God, you guys are 371 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: going to really hate me, but I listened to zero 372 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: pod zero zero zero. However, I really enjoy you guys, 373 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: so thank you. Let me ask you this question. How 374 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: many of our podcasts episodes have you listened to? Kyle? Okay, 375 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. I do watch true crime. I'm 376 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: more of a visual I will say again, it's hard 377 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: for me to listen to something I don't think I 378 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: can honestly compute all of it. So I like so 379 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: I hate to watch So I watched true crime, any 380 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of true crime doc, right, yeah, of course, I'm 381 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: on let him with you. She's on lunch. Started podcasting. 382 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: I did not listen to a one. And I have 383 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot of friends and podcasting, and I'm like, oh yeah, 384 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: I definitely am supporting your podcast. Subscribe, subscribe. I bought 385 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: the mug. No. I think that's the cooler position to 386 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: be in, because I will say, I'm on the other 387 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. I'm listening to every podcast you 388 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: have a podcast, I'm listening. I don't know why. Am 389 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: I afraid of being alone with my thoughts? Maybe you know, 390 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't know it. Like I have it on. I 391 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: have even a little system, like when I take a 392 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: shower in the morning, I will listen that. Like that's 393 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: when I listened to the news, you know, so I 394 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: could get my day started that way, and then whatever 395 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: the weekly pot I'm subscribed to a bunch of stuff, 396 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: and like I really like to listen. I mean, this 397 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: is really like ill. This has probably illness and it's 398 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: actually not good. But like I'm walking around outside or 399 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: if I go for a rent or something, I'm listening 400 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: to true crime. You know, I don't know why. I 401 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: really don't know why. And I do think that I've 402 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: heard the true crime is consumed by women, and I 403 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: wonder if it's like I don't know that I can 404 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: make this scientific claim, but I I wonder. I'm assuming 405 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: my hunch is like, maybe it's the thing we fear 406 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: because the thing that's ever present, and so we are 407 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: like almost in some way, sorry to use the red tantalized, 408 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: but here we go tantalize, but like you know, or 409 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: like you're listening to it in a in a in 410 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: that way like almost you know, you're like interested in 411 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: the thing that scares you, you know. I mean, I 412 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't actively like feel a fear when 413 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: I listen to it. If anything, I think we're like 414 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: binging these things and so we're if anything, we're distancing 415 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: ourselves from it and are like overwhelming ourselves with it. 416 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: But I will say that I listen. There's even a 417 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: show I hate that I listened to every week. I'm there, 418 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm listening. I hate the host. It's a man. I 419 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: hate him. Um he is. He's definitely you know, a 420 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: lot of crimes are like, uh, the victims are women, 421 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: and his the way this specific person talks about it 422 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: is like callous and gross and weird and I don't 423 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why I keep listening to it. 424 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: And he even calls out, um, there are two very 425 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: famous female podcasters obviously who have a true crime investigative show, 426 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: and he constantly like rags on them, and I don't 427 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: know why, and I like them so much and I 428 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: hate him, and I'm still listening. I don't know what 429 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: is that that's sick? Here you go listening, I think, 430 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: which is some of our listeners who like to tell 431 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: us how much they hate us, but they still listen. 432 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Just kidding, but yeah, no, I 433 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: think we did a whole episode about women who are 434 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: obsessed with serial killers in general, and it's kind of 435 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: a large number. You're right, And again, the people who 436 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: consume the most, like true crime podcast specifically and documentaries 437 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: are typically women as well. And there's this whole level 438 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: of like whether it's like a maternal thing, whether it's 439 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: that mystery of it all and trying to unfold and 440 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: seeing if you could see the underlying things that are 441 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: there that is for me and I cannot figure it out, 442 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: which is stumidic. If you look at Wikipedia there it is. 443 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: I figured it out, but there's still this random fascination 444 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: that it's like what happened here? What went wrong? But 445 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: you do this whole other level when it's like you're 446 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: like you're a part of that. So we were so 447 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: removed from treue crime, like I'm not going to murder 448 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: this person in this way and hack of their body. Nah, 449 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: But you guys are like, why is that person rearranging 450 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: their plants? I need to know what they are doing? 451 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Why is that person so mean? Like you are doing 452 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: the things I swear it is God's work for real, 453 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: we're calling out the everyday things that again, you said 454 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: that we take for granted that it's happening, but when 455 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: you sit there and actually watch and you're like, why 456 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: is this happening? At what point were you guys like 457 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: we must do a podcast about this? You know what? 458 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: I have to say that part of the allure of 459 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: doing this was I would say, now that we're doing 460 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: the podcast, there's really no danger. There's serial But I 461 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: wasn't treagued by you know, steak out, you know, watching someone. 462 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: I like the idea of like being someone who's like 463 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: we're following someone. The truth is kind of us to 464 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: wear a really big hat, so that's disguise, huge hat, 465 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: and then I want to be able to rip it 466 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: off and go, yeah it was meal and they're like, 467 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: who are you? So you want to be in your 468 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: own Scooby Special big time. Yeah. We love the fanfare 469 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: around investigating. I don't really love a dead body, I 470 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: gotta say, but you know, the the steak out, the 471 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: trench coat, I mean, the magnifying glass. Yes, of course, 472 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I think we wanted to do it 473 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: in a way that felt like what we could manage. Okay, 474 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: maybe we can't solve a murder case, but we could 475 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe solve why that one neighbor is kind of weird 476 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: or like there's there's a there's space for us, for us, 477 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like we just created that space. Yeah. 478 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point to Kyle, Like, I 479 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: think that it's there is space for all sorts of mysteries. 480 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: It's not that, you know, it doesn't have to be gruesome, 481 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: you know. I Mean the sad thing too, is that 482 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: because there's an over like there's so much over saturation 483 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: of true crime stuff that it's almost like things don't 484 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: even that's not even gruesome enough. You know, like it 485 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: has to be it has to be worse, it has 486 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: to be like, it has to be totally vile in 487 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: order for it to even be interesting. That a simple 488 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: murder is like not even I'm sorry, it's like whatever, 489 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's like boring now, And so it's like, well, 490 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: also there are mysteries that are important to me, like, yeah, 491 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: why did my neighbor rearrange her succulents five times a day? 492 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: And sometimes it would even be six? What is that? 493 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: You know? I got I gotta look into that. Just 494 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: like wise, tomato juice good when you're on an airplane. 495 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, and I want to know 496 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: why is it good an airplane? It's so good. You're refreshed. 497 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're looking flies hell the second that 498 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: hits your mouth. Okay, but I love tomato ju with 499 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: a little live. I mean, you're on vacation, you're already 500 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: vacations already started, you haven't even landed yet. You bring 501 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: me warm tomato juice on the ground. I mean, what 502 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: have I done wrong? You than your family? Why are you? 503 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: You know? Well, yeah, that's kind to my point, I 504 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: was coming back to the guy who wrote like essentially 505 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: the Well, actually, I thought there was going to be 506 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: science and all of this, and that's something Samantha and 507 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: I have experienced on this show where this is anecdotal, 508 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: there is research to back it up, but we get 509 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: critiqued way more as women, especially when we're talking about 510 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: something that's viewed as like a male domain or something scientific. 511 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Where we even did an experiment once where we did 512 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: a side by side same content, one was done by 513 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: a woman when my man man got all almost zero critiques. 514 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: Woman just nobody trusted her, Nobody believed that she didn't 515 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: know what she's talking about, no credibility. So I think 516 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: that having this podcast where you're just like, resolutely know 517 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: this doesn't that's not what we are. I'm very happy 518 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: that you're doing that, very very happy that you're just 519 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: like that, that's not our thing totally. That's so interesting. 520 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Obviously I was going to say that 521 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: there was also that also this is anecdotal as well, 522 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: but someone published under a male pseudonym and then like 523 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: was her submission got in she was or she was 524 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: trying to enter her pieces into I forget where like 525 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: New Yorker or whatever, and then rejected rejected, rejected under 526 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: female name, but then under male name, immediately got published 527 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, again anecdotal, but totally of course. 528 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: I feel like to even take risks as a like, 529 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: it's so different to be able to take risks as 530 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: a female identifying person, Like so much grace is offered 531 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: to male identifying people, you know, like yeah, yeah, I 532 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: was going to add that. It's like I think also 533 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: the combination of it being an investigated podcast but also 534 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: we're comedians. I think like trying to make a joke 535 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: as a woman is like like it's just like some 536 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: guys that they're trying to like what do you call 537 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it in basketball, is just trying to block your ass. 538 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Like I literally feel like it's just something. It feels 539 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: like Yeah. I think immediately when our podcast came out 540 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: and we're like clearly we're just trying to make some jokes, 541 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: I think that there are people who wanted to shut 542 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: us down because it's just like even us just trying 543 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: to be funny. I think is like there's gonna be 544 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: people who are going to be like, oh no, you don't, 545 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: you can't do that, or you're not you know what 546 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, You're not allowed to do that. But I 547 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: think we're used to it, and I think it's just 548 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: cool because then they're just people who really get it, 549 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: and it's like that's who we make it for, you 550 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean totally, Yeah, I mean the nice 551 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: thing is that, yeah, we totally have a nice back 552 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: catalog of at least like basically a decade of like 553 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: facing that kind of thing in comedy anyway, So that's 554 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: that's good for them. Uh we are we already know, 555 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: we know they ropes, So yeah, we're used to this, 556 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: So get on you know episode my man. Yeah, we 557 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean we've had uh several comedians on here, and 558 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about that because obviously, you know, the joke 559 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: is that women are funny. And that's a really good point, Kyle, 560 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: of like, you're not only in the investigative space, but 561 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: also in the comedy space, which is double. Um. Have 562 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: you seen that kind of attitude shift at all in 563 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: your years working in comedy? I think so. I think 564 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: there's been a really cool, exciting shift. I personally speaking, 565 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: this is like when I started comedy in San Francisco. 566 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: And this feels very weird because San Francisco sounds so 567 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: like experimental and so much cool. Weird comedy came out 568 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: of their personally speaking doing again quote unquote alternative comedy. 569 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: It felt like you're not allowed, You're not allowed to 570 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: be like weird, and and of a female performer, you're 571 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: just not like it felt even more insular. The weird space, 572 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: the alternative comedy space felt like it was just guys, 573 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, I mean, there's there's 574 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: like more history to this than than what I'm about 575 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: to say. But I think like Tim and Eric undoubtedly 576 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: created a whole wave of weird comedy, and so the 577 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: people who are coming out now are like students of 578 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: whatever that is, you know, not to negate the efforts 579 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: of everybody weird pre Tim and Eric, but like that's 580 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: how I've felt, and I feel like now in the 581 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: last five years, at least weird comedy, the term alternative 582 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: is now like irrelevant because it's actually what's popular. If 583 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: you look at any like vodka commercial, they basically the 584 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: language is the cadence of Tim and Eric, you know, 585 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: so it's no longer alternative, but so like, I think 586 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: women are more allowed in the space, and it's like 587 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: what's more popular now but still I feel like taking 588 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: a risk is often uh like rewarded when um men 589 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: and male identifying people do it, and not so much 590 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: when women. Like I just feel like people are Hartshire 591 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: critics of women, and so what is considered taking a 592 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: risk is like seen as just wrong and maybe not 593 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: like ambitious and cool and whatever, you know and celebratory. 594 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. That's been my experience. Yeah, 595 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: I think that we still do. I think that we 596 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: still do experienced stuff, and maybe it's a little bit 597 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: more settle because more of the popular culture of comedy 598 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: right now is more accepting and like more you know, 599 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: about women doing comedy. I think there's out of backlash 600 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: after like all of that, Like women are funny, you know, 601 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: and so it feels like we're in a very like 602 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: positive time. But I think I think Annon and I 603 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: experience things on a very more like individual level. Like 604 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: it could be as subtle as someone you know, making 605 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: a weird comment to you after a show and you're like, 606 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: you would never say that to a guy. You would 607 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: never say that comment, you know what I mean. It's 608 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: like this subtle thing where I think if you identify 609 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: as a woman and you like, know what that is. 610 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: But even to tell someone that they would necessarily be 611 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: like super overt, like they wouldn't necessarily know what that is. 612 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: But I think, like, yeah, I think I think we 613 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: still experience stuff on a certain level and as individuals, 614 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: like they feel safe offering you advice even like it 615 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't even be like criticism, could just be like they 616 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: feel like, oh, you know what here, actually you could 617 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: I think what you could use as my in Uh. 618 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a missing link. I think what it 619 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: is is that a lot of times also, you know, 620 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: like sometimes it's a thing where like I feel like 621 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: men put out work or something and we accepted as work, 622 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, But for us, it's like we put something 623 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: out and then it's like, uh, you know, like we 624 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: have to like figure out how to make it valid 625 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: and make it like worth it. And so there's a 626 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of that going on. And I even feel with 627 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: their podcast a lot of like, you know, we're trying 628 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: to like validate this thing where I know in someone 629 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: else's hands they would have put it out and it's 630 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: like they wouldn't have to do that. But you know, 631 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: the cool thing about working with Anna's that we're very 632 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: confident in what we do, and we feel like what 633 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: we do is like hopefully undenied. I mean, I don't 634 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: think you can say hopefully undenied. It's not, but I 635 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: hope our goal is just to make be consistent and 636 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: like keep making it and just like blocking out everything 637 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: because I think ultimately, you know, we're making something that 638 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: we love. Yeah, so I think it's like a success 639 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: in that it's an exact execution I've been saying of 640 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: the thing we wanted to make. So it's like we 641 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: are making it exactly the way we wanted to make it. 642 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: That's undeniable, Like it's it is a reflection of you know, 643 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: the cool thing about it being a podcast is that 644 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: we're allowed to be as ambitious as we want. And 645 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: so we're like, yeah, we wanna I don't know, skydive 646 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, like we want to skydive onto 647 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: a corn field And it's just an idea that I 648 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: came up with the Kyle that I haven't run by 649 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: you yet, but but like cornfield because why not? Okay? 650 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: But I just mean like we are allowed to do 651 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: a kind of we were allowed to go as big 652 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: as we want and we don't have to like wait 653 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: for people's permission really like we definitely have a producer's 654 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: advice and opinions, and luckily they're very supportive of us 655 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: and they rock. And I think that it's very specific, 656 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's like for a specific maybe a 657 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: group of people. But then yeah, I think it's like 658 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: not really that questionable. You know that we were talking 659 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: about earlier. You gotta make this gesture when you do 660 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: your listeners. You can't see it, but you know what 661 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: it is. So this could be like me way projecting, 662 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: but I love that. Yes, do you think when you're 663 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: investigating these these mysteries that you are seemingly insignificant? Do 664 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: you find that it enlightens you to a bigger like 665 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: more you can extrapolate it to other things in life, 666 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: for like, oh, I don't know, like at the end, 667 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're talking about the depth of 668 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: humanity or something. Do you know A mean you're like, 669 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: but it means so much more. I think a couple 670 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: of the questions the answers have been very loose. I'll 671 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: say that, um, and that is no disrespect to us 672 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: as investigators, but that is just the answers have been loose, 673 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: and so they I think sometimes they also feel like 674 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: joke answers. But I've definitely had a few moments where 675 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm like that, actually, you know what, that is true, 676 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: and I think in some of them on a bigger level. Yeah, 677 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I think when we were doing why are some 678 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: people mean, the conclusion we reached ultimately, I guess could 679 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: be unsatisfying because it's like we didn't find like a 680 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: synapse in the brain that whatever, those are the biggest parts. 681 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: I can think of it the moment. But sounds good, Yeah, 682 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. But I think we were like, I 683 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: don't think anybody is inherently bad. I think people have 684 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: a bad day, but they could have a series of 685 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: bad days, and that series of bad days could ultimately 686 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: be a lifetime. Um, you know, I think that that's 687 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: like to me, that sounds that sounds almost pretty insightful. 688 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good. I don't I don't know, like, 689 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I it's it hasn't led to 690 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: like a concrete I can comment on like the essence 691 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: of man. But I think you know, I've I've read, 692 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: I've read a good amount of Russian literature. I'm I'm 693 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm asking introvert like introspective questions. I think I think 694 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good answer to me. Most of the 695 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: questions that you guys are asking are typically the why 696 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: of humanity? Again, but like but why is that to 697 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: your question of like just just why, and it can 698 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: never really be answered, especially like at the beginning of 699 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: your episodes with the main stuff that people calling in 700 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: and essentially complaining that's someone doing something to them one 701 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: time or a few times, and it's kind of that 702 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: whole other level of like, yeah, but we don't know 703 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: the background of what they were going through. It could 704 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: just be there awkward, and you do talk about that 705 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: at one point, like this could be like they have 706 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: an anxiety a disorder, and therefore they are not able 707 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: to interact the way you want them to interact. Or 708 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: you may be paranoid and thinking that they're being mean 709 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: to you when an actuality they're just being whatever, and 710 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: you took it as a personal attack. Like there's so 711 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: many of those levels of like these are big, huge questions, 712 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: which again a two year old asks you when you 713 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: just sit there and going because and I guess because 714 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: that's that that's the parent answer that no one actually 715 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: ever has, and then when you grow up you're like, 716 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: that's not an answer, so tell me why. But yeah, 717 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: that conduct goes all up into the universal of are 718 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: we breaking some boundaries and bringing people together and just pausing, 719 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, like this is what you're hoping you're doing, 720 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: not you me, like when I'm asking those big questions 721 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: and in the end, you're just actually confusing yourself and 722 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: those around you, which is at me. And he just 723 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: nods at me typically and says, what, Samantha, you are 724 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: making me think? Like if I had a two year 725 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: old or something, maybe then I'd be like that. That's 726 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: when we're done with the shows. The kids ask that, 727 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: we're like, no, just know. Well, like in my response 728 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,959 Speaker 1: is like why are people mean? Because they suck? Yeah, 729 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: that would be my only answer, And I say that 730 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm the mean person. I definitely had my bad days. 731 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: You're talking about all of the stuff you've got up 732 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: coming as identifying as a woman and all of your 733 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: shows and being essentially just having to deal with all 734 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: the sexist interactions. And recently I saw on Twitter a 735 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: lot people talking about how female comedians were introduced, and 736 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: oftentimes it included how they were dressed. What they looked 737 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: like instead of actual like backgrounds of them, which is 738 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: really infuriating. And you're talking about how things have changed 739 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to your podcast, do you have kind 740 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: of obviously you do because you are people who identify 741 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: as women, but kind of that feminist perspective of what 742 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: these questions are and how you approach it or how 743 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: it's answered. I think that, like I'll try to start 744 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: it off and then Kyle, you really can take it away. 745 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: I think that, like it's yes, we undoubtedly have had 746 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: these experiences, were also like very I don't know, we 747 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: both have like pretty funky I think, um and understandings 748 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: of our own femininity. You know, we're definitely like I 749 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean yeah too. I mean I think 750 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: to be a woman and to be like aware is 751 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: to be a feminist in a lot of ways. You know, 752 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: like if you are putting yourself in positions where you're 753 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: criticized only because you're a woman, you can't help but 754 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: be aware, you know, and so that shapes everything. You know. 755 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's a hard question to answer because it's 756 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: like there's nothing I don't see through the perspective of 757 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: a woman. It informs I think literally everything. I don't 758 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: know that I'm actively thinking about it all the time. 759 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I see everything as like, I don't 760 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: know that I'm immediately aware of my perspective of it 761 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: because of that, but it it undoubtedly shapes everything, you know. 762 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think like even being aware of like 763 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: who's receiving and who's listening, and are they offering us 764 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: the same grace as they would a man, probably not? 765 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, that shapes the way we make the show too, right, 766 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: Like that's definitely an active part of it. I don't 767 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: know that we are necessarily making something that we say 768 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: this is feminist, you know, but I think that the 769 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: way we enter spaces, the way that we ask people, 770 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: the questions we ask, our perspectives of them are are 771 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: inherently feminist and female. So to me, the two are 772 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: intrinsically tied. That's my kind of not funny. Um no, 773 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: it's great, and I think that sort of always my personally, 774 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: my goal whenever I make something is to um clown 775 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: on some men, always like, and that's sort of my approach. Yeah, 776 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: I think so too. I definitely have never felt like 777 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not feminine or female and I refuse to participe, 778 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, like it's never that at all, Like how 779 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: could it not be. It's also I don't know, I 780 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: feel like my experience of being let's say others as 781 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: a woman are like then go on to make my perspective, 782 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: I think more interesting, right, I think the things that 783 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: make you, um, this is a very simple maybe over 784 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: making it over a lament entry, but like the things 785 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: that make you different are the points of yourself that 786 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: are probably the most interesting, right, yes, should really shut 787 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: them down? Okay, has anything to say? No, I think 788 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: that was that was perfect. I think it's hard to 789 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: separate the two. I like with how you said that, 790 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: Like it's like that is like party. That is our 791 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: perspective because that is our part of our identity. So 792 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: it's hard to separate them and also identify how they 793 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: impact things because they're just like literally layered into things, 794 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: you know. I don't think we're even able sometimes to 795 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: be fully conscious of how they're they're how they're like 796 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: participating in things, because they're just us. Yeah, And I 797 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: think about like the things I would want to hear 798 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: in the way I would want to be spoken to 799 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: in the entertainment I want to consume, and unfortunately, for 800 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: a long time it didn't involve me as a There 801 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of comedy that didn't, I think, have 802 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: me as a desired member of its audience. So I'm 803 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: like making you know, I like, I mean, I grew 804 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: up in Russia. Guilty is charged, and the things the 805 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: comedies that I really liked were like Robin Williams and 806 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 1: Chris Tucker because they were really physical and really goofy, 807 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: and so that's what I wanted to do. I don't 808 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: know that they necessarily were like we want women as 809 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: audience or whatever, but those are the things I want 810 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: and the things that I am bodied that I now 811 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: hope to make for others and hope to make them 812 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: feel more included. I don't know. Yeah, I think it 813 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: really matters who who is making stuff in that perspective 814 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: and who's asking questions. Because something we've been talking about 815 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot on this show lately is how science is 816 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: biased in a lot of ways and has been biased 817 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but we just trust like, oh, 818 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: it's science, so that's yeah, fact um. And one of 819 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: my favorite examples is there was this study that was 820 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: done by I think like five men and it was 821 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: about why women carry their cell phones, and they put 822 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: in all this money and like all this stuff, and 823 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: they finally asked a woman. She's like, well, we don't 824 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: have pockets, and so like literally, if they had a woman, 825 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: she could have told them immediately, just so much money. Yes, 826 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: you can read the paper. It's great, like all the 827 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: theories they have into it. You're like, wow, we were 828 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: coming from different angles friends, because I know that answer immediately. 829 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: So I love I love that. That's something that I 830 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: have anxiety about on this show is when you make 831 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: these kind of observations or generalizations, especially about for us 832 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to gender and using any kind of 833 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: social science. It has been weaponized so often, and so 834 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: it just makes me kind of anxious. But I I 835 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: what you said about like people are they're complex, So 836 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: like you can look into why are people always late? 837 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: And there could be a general answer, but then there's 838 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: also a complicated answer, so there's like avenue for connection. 839 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: But also we're all different. So I think that just 840 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: by making this and having a newer, different perspective in 841 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: this this arena, that you are unfortunately asking questions that 842 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: to us might seem obvious but there's my not ses totally. 843 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: Just asking sometimes can feel radical even though that's not 844 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: how we intended it or something, you know, right, Yeah, 845 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: So as we wrap up here, is there anything on 846 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 1: the horizon that you're excited about, any questions you're excited 847 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: to ask and get answered? I mean, I think, I 848 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: really I don't know if we can give it away, 849 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: but we're wrapping up our first season, so there will 850 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: be a second season, hallelujah, And we're so excited because 851 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: I feel like this second season, we've the first season, 852 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: we've kind of figured it out, so I feel like 853 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: the second season we're really gonna go. We're going to 854 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: really go there. We've been holding back honestly, and we're 855 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: just ready to fire at all cylinders. But yeah, our 856 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: season finale is coming up in the next few weeks. 857 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: Our podcast release every Tuesday, so when comes out today? 858 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll be asking today's episode that's coming out. 859 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: I don't know when this podcast is coming out, but 860 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: the episode coming out is why does it Feel So 861 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: Good to Give Back? So this is actually one of 862 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: our favorite episodes, and I don't want to give it away, 863 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: but we decide to figure out why it is like 864 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: giving is feels so good. And we do this by 865 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: doing something really special for one of our friends. But 866 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 1: we have limited time in our day, so that impacts 867 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: what we end up doing. Yeah, that's really limits, but 868 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: also offers a kind of gift due to the type 869 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: of listener we can do for our friend and for 870 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: the listener. Yeah, but it's pretty exciting. So hijacks and Sue. 871 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: I know soon Neil'll be tired of people giving you suggestions. 872 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 1: But I know, Samantha, please, you don't have to have to. 873 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 1: But one of the things is like why cat people 874 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: and dog people so competitive with each other? Yes, I 875 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: see the sparks in Kyle's eyes immediately because I know 876 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: where she is. I know exactly which I think. I 877 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: know that's where she is because we kind of talked 878 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: about it previously and I'm on her team. But you know, 879 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: there's a big verses there. There's one. So I'm like, 880 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: why let's talk about it and then you should have 881 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: people debate about it. I'm not a good debate like 882 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: a town hall debate. Yes, you bring your animals, like 883 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: the animals speak to Oh my god, that's chaos. Let's 884 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: do it. Give them a voice. You can do the 885 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: TikTok version where they have an air bubble where you 886 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: put in what they're saying. The audios got really complicated. 887 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: We can do this and the other one because I 888 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: just don't understand. I try so hard. Why do some 889 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: people kill their house plants? Why can't they keep a 890 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: plant alive? Yeah? I need to know why I couldn't 891 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: do this. I want to love them, so I google 892 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: about them, because Samantha, you got good at keeping your 893 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: house plants alive? No, I killed them? You are? Oh okay, 894 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: I see I killed the one that kills them. I 895 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: need to know because I want to care. So we 896 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: are doing and we're actually going to do a true 897 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: crime season about you, scifically about her. Oh no, Samantha. 898 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: We're going to interview like elementary school teachers be like, well, 899 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a child, that kind of song she 900 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: just really has raged again. I think that. I love that. 901 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: I think we absolutely could could look into that. Yeah, 902 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear about it. Yeah. I like how 903 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: it's become. We're trying to get answers. Will you please 904 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: do the research for answer? Absolutely? I mean we're taking 905 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: we're actively taking pictures, so yes, love all of those 906 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: is really a free gift to us. Yeah, well, thank 907 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: you so much for being here with us. Um, where 908 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: can the good listeners find you? Um? You can find 909 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: us on Instagram and Twitter. Our Instagram name is at 910 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: truth Hounds and you can basically get all of the 911 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: podcast updates there and you can also listen to the podcast. 912 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: But on Twitter, by the way, we are at by 913 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: the Way Sounds just by the way, don't forget it, 914 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: at the Truth Towns, and you can listen to us. 915 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: We're on all podcasts platforms, so we're out there and 916 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. So and we even 917 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: have a tip line that you could call and leave 918 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: the tip so if you have another question that you 919 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: if you want to love those on the tip line. 920 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the new super fan and every 921 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: phone call just maybe asking a question. I would love it. 922 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: I would really love her. Yeah, so is a guy 923 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: who knows science better than us. So we will definitely 924 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: take you because I definitely do. Oh yes, definitely go 925 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 1: check them out listeners of Samantha. I'm looking forward to 926 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: this saga learning more about you. Thanks again Kyle and 927 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: Anna for being with us. It was such a delight. 928 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for so much. Thank you. We'll 929 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: have to come back soon. Yes, yes, And if you 930 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: would like to contact us you can. Our email is 931 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: Stuff Media, mom Stuff That I Hurt Me dot com. 932 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast 933 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: or on Instagram and Stuff I've Never Told You. Thanks. 934 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: It's always to you our super producer, Christina. Thank you, Christina, 935 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening Stuff I Never Told You. 936 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: Protection of by Heart Radio. 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