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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Henderson, and we are film women.

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Speaker 2: It's the holidays. What a time of the year it is,

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Speaker 2: am I right, Danielle, What.

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Speaker 3: A fucking year? I mean, I feel like we don't

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Speaker 3: need to give many updates because we both had a

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Speaker 3: couple of highs, but it's mostly been the worst year

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Speaker 3: of our lives, truly, truly, truly, so I don't think

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Speaker 3: we need to dig into it. But I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: say I'm glad it's fucking ending and personally can't wait

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Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. I hope the world is better

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. But yeah, my year was bullshit,

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Speaker 3: pure bullshit.

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Speaker 1: One of the top worst years of my life, which

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Speaker 1: is you.

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Speaker 3: Know, at one point I was like, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: is this the worst year of my adult life or

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Speaker 3: like my entire life, And I'm like, definitely the worst year.

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Speaker 4: Of my adult life.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's it's rivaling one of the worst years

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Speaker 3: of my actual life as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this year is as bad as the year that

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Speaker 1: I almost died.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say that.

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Speaker 4: So what what a reference point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hey, I mean and who knows, who knows

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Speaker 1: what the future will bring. But I'm just saying up

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Speaker 1: until this point, those are those are your top two, folks.

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Speaker 3: But it's almost over and we're in the holiday season,

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Speaker 3: and uh, I've got a pretty good Christmas FMK for you.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited by this. It is epic. It

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Speaker 1: is long and epic, and.

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Speaker 3: It is epic. And it was sent in by a

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Speaker 3: listener named Kay who uses she her pronouns Hello, epic k. Here.

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Speaker 3: I sent in a question about epic movies a few

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Speaker 3: months ago, and you read it on a bonus podcast,

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Speaker 3: And now my family calls me epic K. I fucking

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Speaker 3: love that. I just gotta stop and say I love that. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I was telling my sisters about FMK and we

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Speaker 3: started doing Christmas. I thought they were so fun I

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Speaker 3: would share them with you. So we have five rounds

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Speaker 3: from epic K of epic Christmas fmks. Are you ready

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Speaker 3: for Round one?

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Speaker 2: I am bracing myself, but yes I am.

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Speaker 3: Round one is Santa's So we have Scott Calvin, The

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Speaker 3: Santa Claus, Tim Allen, Santa the Christmas Chronicles, Kurt Russell,

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Speaker 3: and Santa from Elf. Ed Asner Okay, fuck Mary kil

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Speaker 3: Am I going first, You're going first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna do this out of order. Sorry, uh

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Speaker 1: kill and Scott Calvin kill kill kill. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's just the whole Like every clip in every still

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Speaker 1: that I've seen of Tim Allen in this movie is unsettling,

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Speaker 1: and I want to kill him dead.

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Speaker 3: So that's happened solid.

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Speaker 1: The rest is pretty, I think, really appropriate. I am

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Speaker 1: definitely fucking Kurt Russell as Santa. That might be an

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Speaker 1: actual fetish I have removed from the film that he

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Speaker 1: was in the Christmas Chronicles. That just is something I

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Speaker 1: think about. And then we're gonna marry ed Asner and Santa, well,

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Speaker 1: because of course, what about.

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Speaker 4: You Asner and Elf?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is pretty easy for me because I am

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Speaker 3: fucking and I'm not even gonna explain it. I'm fucking

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Speaker 3: ed Asner and guess what, I've never seen Elf. I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if his character is different from his

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Speaker 4: I'm literally fucking.

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Speaker 3: Ed Asner as whatever character he played fine in ELF,

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Speaker 3: but that's where I'm going. I'm gonna marry Kurt Russell

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Speaker 3: and I'm killing Tim Allen in the Santa Claus. I

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Speaker 3: can't with Tim Allen and the Santa Claus ain't happening.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing sexy about.

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Speaker 3: It, not like he's supposed to be. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: guess it would be weird if it was sexy, like

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Speaker 3: this children's movie about Santa Claus. And you're like, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of can't with Tim Allen.

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I always thought he was a weird celebrity for some reason.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I think. I don't know, but yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: I just think that's very special for.

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Speaker 3: This My taste is hard to pin down, but it's

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Speaker 3: pretty easy to understand. Round two we have badass Santa's,

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Speaker 3: So we have Willie Billy, Bob Thornton in Bad Santa Santa,

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Speaker 3: David Harber and Violent Knight and Louis Winthorpe, Dan Ackroyd

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Speaker 3: in Trading Places. Who are you gonna fuck? Marry and kill?

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Speaker 2: Oh god? This is this is weird for me?

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Speaker 1: Why I'm confident at least one of them. But then

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Speaker 1: now I'm like, what are the other two gonna be?

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Speaker 1: I don't hmm, this is so easy for me. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear your answers. Okay, so I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna fuck David Harber as Santa and Violent Night, just

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Speaker 1: because I mean, come on, we know why he's He's

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Speaker 3: Uh he revolutionized the dad bond and then he got

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Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I would still climb that tree so quickly.

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Speaker 1: That's haunting.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I just said that.

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Speaker 1: I am probably gonna marry Billy Bob Thornton in Bad Santo.

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Speaker 1: And this is where it was hard for me, because

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, it was it was a

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Speaker 1: hard choice. So ultimately that means I am killing dan

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Speaker 1: Ackroid in Trading Places. And maybe that's just because I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen trading places in a long time. And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I always liked Eddie Murphy Moore in that movie, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I likeded Ackroid. I always I

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Speaker 1: always like dan Ackroid. But I'm just saying in this one, now.

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Speaker 3: Well, guess what we have the same exact or some

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Speaker 3: fucking David Harbor. I don't even think we need to

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Speaker 3: explain that, but I will. David Harbor is incredibly hot

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Speaker 3: in all different bodies that he has embodied throughout his

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Speaker 3: life and career. Yes, he's interesting and funny and uh,

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Speaker 3: his Architectural Digest tour of his apartment before he got

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Speaker 1: What Oh I didn't know this?

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Speaker 3: What shit? Yeah? And then he did another one with

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Speaker 3: Lily Allen after he got married.

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Speaker 2: Wait is he British?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe the Harbor thing threw me off.

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Speaker 1: Harbor David, Wait a minute, okay, is it? Is it

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Speaker 1: as good as the because you know, my favorite Architectural

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Speaker 1: Digest glimpse, which I guess is like grown up cribs.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that you think that Architectural Digest is

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: But Jason Statham when they did the Jason Statham one,

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Speaker 1: a mid century modern furniture.

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Speaker 3: It's on par. It's on par. You're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: good time after we record this episode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just looked at the picture.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and there's two of them. There's two of them,

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Speaker 3: So of course I'm fucking David Harbor. He's a fucking

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Speaker 3: national treasure and Violent Knight is hilarious and he's the

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Speaker 3: hottest of the three. I am going to marry Billy

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Speaker 3: Bob Thornton simply because I cannot wait to kill dan Ackroyd.

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Speaker 3: I would kill dan Ackroyd in trading places first and hard, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then carry on with the rest of the list.

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Speaker 3: But Billy Bob is kind of a consolation prize the marriage.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but he was pretty hot.

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Speaker 3: When he was with Angelina, and he's always out doing

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Speaker 3: music and producing.

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Speaker 4: He's always a way. Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be away as much as possible to

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Speaker 2: marry him.

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Speaker 3: He's always he's always out of the house. And that's

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Speaker 3: the perfect marriage for me is don't be in my

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Speaker 3: goddamn face. So yeah, that's solid, same answers. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it too.

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Speaker 3: This next round is interesting for me, me too, me too.

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Speaker 3: So the next round that Epic k has given us

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Speaker 3: is the BA humbug round. Okay, and we have Clint

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Speaker 3: Briggs played by Ryan Reynolds and spirited Frank Cross played

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Speaker 3: by Bill Murray and Scrooged and the Grinch from The

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Speaker 3: Grinch Who Stole Christmas Jim Carrey fuck Mary Kill.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Strangely complicated for me, This one.

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Speaker 1: Strangely complicated, and I might regret everything that I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Those are my favorite fucking f MK rounds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I think I'm gonna fuck the Grinch. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna function Terry. I Ah, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that could be.

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Speaker 2: Like, it's gonna be weird, guaranteed to be weird.

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Speaker 4: That's my new ringtoone. I think I'm gonna fuck the Grinch.

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Speaker 1: I will say that I've never been sexually attracted to

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Speaker 1: the Gride, you know, traditionally.

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Speaker 2: I like, this is uncharted territory for me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: admit it.

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Speaker 1: It is. It would be a weird evening for sure.

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Speaker 1: I might have to, you know, take a bath the

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Speaker 1: next day and remove my skin with rubbing alcohol or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Saying to take a Meredith Baxter Bernie Lifetime Shower.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and it'll just be the night that will

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Speaker 2: haunt me forever.

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Speaker 3: But you're doing it willingly. You're entering this willingly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: even if it haunts you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be very weird, and I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: prepared for that in some way. Here's what I'm gonna do, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean this feels a little a little standard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna marry Clint Briggs because I have to say

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Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds is not necessarily the type that I would

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Speaker 1: be with forever, but out of I guess Hollywood dudes,

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Speaker 1: I could marry him. He seems kind of charming. He

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Speaker 1: owns a cell phone company.

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Speaker 4: He owns a fucking soccer team in England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would just be like my boring bro husband

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Speaker 1: that would like go off and do bro things with

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Speaker 1: his buddies and then I'd be at home and he'd,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'd pass in the night. And I like him.

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Speaker 1: I think he would be sweet and attentive. But you know,

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Speaker 1: is he David Harber?

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Speaker 3: No, no one's No one's David Harber in terms of

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Speaker 3: sexual the anima, Yeah, that's sexual being.

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Speaker 1: He would be a steady partner. I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what I mean by that. But he's not like

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Speaker 1: the first guy that I think of. And then so

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Speaker 1: that we're killing Frank Cross and it's just because he's

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Speaker 1: so grouchy.

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Speaker 3: Wow, like too.

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Speaker 1: Groucy for me?

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Speaker 4: All right, this all tracks for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: I think for me, Ryan Reynolds was the.

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Speaker 3: Spoke in the wheel. Yes, that made this less easy

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Speaker 3: for me. So good job K, good job epic K,

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Speaker 3: You have I might never been afraid of a weird time.

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Speaker 3: here and say, my neighbors are leaf blowing. So if

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Speaker 4: And I guess it's happening today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I already did my fall cleanup because I'm, you know,

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Speaker 3: Frank Cross, Bill Murray and scrooged Wow. Because he is

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Speaker 3: And I'm I think that means I'm going to kill Clint.

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Speaker 4: It's the he's delightful and charming.

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Speaker 3: By being myself, just by being my triple Gemini direct

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Speaker 3: I appreciate a good cry every once in a while, right,

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Speaker 3: but not at Christmas. So Clint's got to go.

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Speaker 1: My Clint, Well, this, to be honest, this completely makes

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Speaker 3: So but I do love that we're both fucking the

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Speaker 1: See. Yeah, I love that we're doing that too, because,

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Speaker 1: I had to do some mental gymnastics for that one,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, wow, that was a good round.

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Speaker 3: K So this fourth round, no, fourth of five, and

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Speaker 3: Kay's going there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sweating.

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Speaker 2: This is I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 3: Kay is giving us elves for this round. So we

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Speaker 3: Nose reindeer, he's the one who wants to be the dentist,

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Speaker 3: and Bernard, the head elf from Santa Claus played by

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Speaker 3: David Crumholtz Fuck Mary Kill. One of them is a cartoon.

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Speaker 3: One of them is a stop motion animated cartoon situation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, when it comes to the taxonomy of like Christmas, folks,

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Speaker 1: I elves are very low on my life in terms

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Speaker 1: of any of this. Like, I absolutely I'd rather fuck

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Speaker 3: I'm six feet tall. You don't have to explain that

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Speaker 1: Elves are weird to think about sexually. I'll just throw

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Speaker 3: Is the hat? Is it the head? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And they're just like, it's kind of like stuck in

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the childlike thing doesn't do it for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So ultimately this is how it's gonna shake loose. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck David Crumbholtz because I'm also just

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Speaker 1: generally attracted to David Crumbholds and always have been. Really

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean shit. When I saw him

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Speaker 1: an Oppenheimer, I was like, yeah, I'd still hit it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I would.

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Speaker 3: You've got a bare ass naked Killian Murphy sitting in

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, ooh, who is this nebbish guy in glasses?

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Speaker 3: Move the camera, move the camera so wing it to

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Speaker 1: No, David Problems is so funny and charming. I don't

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Speaker 1: I've seen him in in movies my entire life. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm assuming I'll just marry Hermie, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just we're just gonna have like a very sexless.

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Speaker 2: Platonic marriage.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna help him be a dentist. You'll

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Speaker 3: It will be sexless, but you will be fine. You'll

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, because I mean, just think about

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Speaker 1: down with him, you could smash his clay body so easily,

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Speaker 1: just so impractical. Plus he's like a baby. He's like

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Speaker 1: a baby, right, a baby character. I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: we're killing buddy because so annoying. He's just so annoying

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Speaker 1: and also a child trapped in a giant man's body.

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Speaker 1: And we've already fucked enough of those. Yes, yes, already

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Speaker 1: got there. This is incredible news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is weird. This is a weird, weird round

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Speaker 2: I am I cann wait to hear what you have

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Speaker 3: This is the weirdest round and this is the hardest

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Speaker 3: round for me. Were strangely yeah, yeah, because whenever you

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Speaker 3: come on, yeah, come on.

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Speaker 1: It's like the time we had to think about mirrorying

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Adams or something like that. Do you remember that

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Speaker 1: we were like, what.

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Speaker 3: That's a baby?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well.

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Speaker 3: I am going to fuck David crumbholds as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Same reasoning, adorable little nebishy. I feel like you'd get

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Speaker 3: annoyed real easy and just like want to be through

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Speaker 3: it sometimes. And as much as I like a weird fuck,

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Speaker 3: I'm also down for a fast fuck. Sometimes not everything

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely killing buddy.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen Elf because every clip I.

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Speaker 3: See with Will Ferrell and it makes me think it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it one time just to get the references.

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Speaker 1: But there are there's a certain type of person that

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Speaker 3: Mean, Yeah, I do, I do. I'm with you. Didn't

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Speaker 3: want to say it, but I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, And that means I'm Mary and Hermie.

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Speaker 4: And look, it's gonna be miserable.

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Speaker 3: But I'm hoping that he's either always at the office

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Speaker 3: or constantly fucking around with.

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Speaker 4: You know, his other reindeer friends.

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Speaker 3: Like he's got a job one day out of the

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Speaker 3: goddamn year, so I hope the rest of the year

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Speaker 3: is just like training as if he was Rocky and

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Speaker 3: Rocky four, like running through snow and lifting up banisters

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Speaker 3: else to do. So I'm like, all right, it'll be miserable.

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Speaker 3: You're a fucking reindeer and a cartoon and you want

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Speaker 3: to be a goddamn dentist. Like the combination is not

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Speaker 3: high on my list for marriageable material. But I cannot

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Speaker 3: fuck or marry.

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Speaker 4: Buddy the Elf too much. It's a bridge.

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Speaker 3: Too far, even though he's a human man. I can't

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Speaker 3: do it. I would rather marry a fucking cartoon reindeer.

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Speaker 1: You would rather fuck a grinch than you would I'd

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Speaker 1: rather fuck a Grinch than anything with Buddy the Elf

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Speaker 1: except kill him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, totally on board with that. Totally on board.

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Speaker 4: Another round, we have the same answers.

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Speaker 3: I love it now this next one, too much Christmas

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Speaker 3: Spirit has given us. This is the last one, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: And our options for too Much Christmas Spirit are George Bailey,

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Speaker 3: Oldman from a Christmas Carol also animated, and Clark Griswold

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Speaker 3: Chevy Chase in Christmas Vacation. Oh this is easy for me, Ooh,

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Speaker 3: bring it on. This is a hard one for me,

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Speaker 3: really really okay, interestingly hard one for me. All right,

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Speaker 3: My answer zeris follows. I'm going to fuck George Bailey

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Speaker 3: from Its Wonderful Life. I know what you're thinking, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you should marry him because he's he's the marrying type.

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Speaker 2: No, you should fuck him.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the look that he gives Donna Reid

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Speaker 1: when she's on the telephone. I mean, come on, that's passion, baby.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he's about he's like chomping at the

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Speaker 1: bit to undress her while she's on the damn telephone.

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Speaker 1: I'm like George. Damn George.

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Speaker 3: Maybe if he got laid a little bit, he wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be going through this fucking psychotic break.

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Speaker 1: I'd be the lady to do it, you know. I

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Speaker 1: just be like you, feeling down, let's have let's have

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Speaker 3: George. Oh yeah, he would definitely be like meet him

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Speaker 3: at the end of a bar. You're already drunk. He

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Speaker 3: just started drinking, and you're like, we're doing it. You've

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Speaker 3: already made your mind up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Shit, man, we could be like rolling them ount

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Speaker 1: in the sack and have all those neighbors come throw

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Speaker 1: dollars at us and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It would be like Magic City up and there.

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Speaker 3: It would be great, Like you do a lap around

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Speaker 3: town screaming at the end of every fish.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, I'm we're gonna I'm gonna hit it.

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Speaker 1: George Bailey, uh sex God, George Bailey from its Waterful Life. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this, this is this is gonna probably

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Speaker 1: put me on the barbecue after I reveal this.

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Speaker 2: But here here goes nothing.

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Speaker 1: I am going to marry Bob crash it slash Gary Oldman,

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Speaker 1: which means I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Kill Clark Griswold.

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Speaker 1: And I'm only killing him because it pisses all of

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Speaker 1: you off so oh much?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because why do they go kissed people off? Because

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00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: people fucking love Clark Griswold. Do you know this about America?

440
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: People love him so much?

441
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: Do you know this?

442
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Have you met America? Have you met a man our age?

443
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: For Christ's sake? Even though in the entire first Vacation

444
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: movie he spends the entire trip like basically trying to

445
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: have sex with another woman that's not his wife and

446
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: he tries to seduce her with a sandwich. Have we

447
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: done this movie on the podcast before?

448
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: Maybe we haven't, but ever since then, I'm like.

449
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: Yo, Clark, I'm on to you. I know all these

450
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: dudes love you and want to dress like you and

451
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: want to wear your shorts and polos, but I'm onto you.

452
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: You gotta die. Sorry.

453
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Speaker 3: The only fuckable person in the Christmas Vacation franchise, or

454
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: the Vacation franchise, I should say, but especially the Christmas

455
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: Vacation movie is uh Randy Quaid. Wow, I'll die on

456
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: that hill and I'm not gonna explain it.

457
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: That's a grinch. Fuck, that's a weird fuck. But we're

458
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: going there the end of the It is the end

459
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: of the year, in the shittiest year of our lives,

460
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: might as well get weird.

461
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: And crazy, right Listen, we're not mentally intact, but while

462
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: we're answering these but it's the rawest and realist that

463
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: we can get in this shit year that we've had.

464
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Speaker 1: So now I got to know where your answers are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have to crack a new diet coke for

466
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: this one. Do it cracking a dco Okay, fuck Mary

467
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Speaker 3: kill I am going to fuck cratch.

468
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: It a figure actually, and you know.

469
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: What, I can't explain it. It's a fucking cartoon. It's

470
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: Gary Oldman. I have to fuck him because the other

471
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: two are so sincere for me that you have to

472
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: marry George Bailey. I know you gave all the reasons

473
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: why you don't have to, but I feel like you

474
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: have to marry George Bailey because he's just an innocent

475
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: weirdo out in the world, sure, and he needs your

476
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: help to survive.

477
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: He's like a Frankenstein's Monster level.

478
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: Man.

479
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just learning about emotions and free wheeling out in

480
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: the world, and I simply have to marry him because

481
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: there is no other choice. You have to kill Chevy

482
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: Chase's Clark Riswold. You cannot fuck or marry that dude.

483
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Speaker 1: This is me. I'm clapping. You know I clap a

484
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: lot on this podcast. Did you did you know that?

485
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: But my clap this is a very orson Welles and

486
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: Citizen Kane clap. I mean, I am in total agreeance

487
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: with you, so satisfied.

488
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: By your answer that may I think Clark Griswold and

489
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: I will write an essay about this one day. I

490
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: think Clark Griswold ushered in an era of laziness and

491
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: shittiness in dads that has yet to subside.

492
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: I fucking love you.

493
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I am going to hold Clark Griswold personally responsible for

494
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: the representation of all the dickwads we have to deal

495
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: with now, either as our own dads, as people that

496
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: people have had children with, or people that you want

497
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: to have children with. He is the worst prototype, and

498
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: again that Reagan era ushered in the worst kind of dad.

499
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: He has had a choke hold on modern American masculinity

500
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: for years, and it is time we do something about it.

501
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: We have better representations of what it means to be

502
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 3: a dude at Christmas? Might I refer you back to

503
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: David Harbor or the goddamn Grinch. I would much prefer

504
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: an America that had Grinch energy. If every dad had

505
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Grinch energy at Christmas, I think we'd be in a

506
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: better place as a country. Yeah.

507
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, these are inflammatory takes from both of us.

508
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: There are people literally like closing out the podcast app

509
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: of their choice, being like, fuck these women, how dare they?

510
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: I think there are many more people that are like

511
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: giving us the orson well slow clad.

512
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: We hope, I hope, I see you.

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00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: I salute you, join us on our weird journey. Oh

514
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: my god, incredible, k thank you so much. You are

515
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: definitely epic. Yeah, and we appreciate this.

516
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: So much, absolutely the best.

517
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Speaker 3: Well, if they weren't closing their podcast apps from the FMK,

518
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: they are going to be closing those apps once they

519
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: start talking about this week's picks.

520
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no kidding, we're going out with a

521
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: fucking bang.

522
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: Girl, This is unforgivable.

523
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: Your choice this week was unfucking forgivable.

524
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I had to save this.

525
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: Movie for the absolute end of the year because I.

526
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Have so much to say, I have so much passion

527
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: and I don't even know. I mean, I pretty much

528
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: told you before we started recording. I was like, you're

529
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to rain this in.

530
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: For me because I could go off the rails very easily.

531
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: I think you should. I think this movie calls for

532
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: going off the rails. But do you want to tell

533
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: the theme first?

534
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I do so.

535
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: As you probably guessed, our theme this week is Christmas Assholes.

536
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: It's our annual tradition. We do it every year. We

537
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: picked two movies and talk about who the Christmas asshole

538
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: or assholes are in the films.

539
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, I don't think anything's gonna top Home Alone.

540
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: You girl had stunning, stunning revelations last year about that

541
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: film Kevin is Dead and his dad might have been

542
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: a college rapist. I'm just saying, yeah, that.

543
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Is chappiquintic is what I think you said.

544
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Wish this day.

545
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: Whenever somebody says that word, I laugh because of how

546
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: often you said it.

547
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: In our last year's.

548
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: Episode, chap equittic vibes, the Allister family gives me jap

549
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: equintic vibes.

550
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Well, and that I think is The joy for me

551
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: in the Christmas Households episodes is because you have to basically.

552
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Defend your choice. You have to tell us, what about

553
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: this movie created a Christmas aushole? Why the person is

554
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: a Christmas asshole?

555
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: And as we know, Christmas assholes can be genderless, ageless,

556
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: sometimes they're in animate objects. I feel like we've talked

557
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: about that in the past, like all bets are off

558
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to Christmas Householes.

559
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: For sure, it's possibly my favorite, my favorite episode of

560
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: the year.

561
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Me too, me too.

562
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: I love every episode, but it's possibly my favorite.

563
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: And also I can I don't wait to talk about

564
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: your movie because, first of all, I want to say

565
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: thank these two.

566
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: These two films are very.

567
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Much like a new Christmas tradition, I would say, I

568
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: mean especially your film and my film too, you know,

569
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: recently in the past, like I don't know, ten years

570
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: or so, but your film, I have not seen it

571
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: in a while. It's been probably I don't know, maybe

572
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: like seven or eight years since I've seen it, And

573
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, what the fuck?

574
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I haven't seen my movie in full

575
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: in several years. I've caught parts of it on cable

576
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: here and there. But I haven't seen it in full

577
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: in a long time, and it's changed some of my

578
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: opinions I have opinions done have changed.

579
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: I totally agree.

580
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I need to say about your film

581
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: before you jump in. I watched your movie with a

582
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: friend because I made some soup and had a friend

583
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: come over and I was like, Hey, I have to

584
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: watch this movie for the podcast if you want to

585
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: watch it, and he was like, yeah, cool, and so

586
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: I put on die Hard. He fell asleep instantly. He

587
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: always does falls asleep in every movie. I'll within five

588
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: minutes of me turning it on. I knew that was

589
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna happen, but it was hilarious.

590
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 4: Woke up during like fell asleep.

591
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: I played all of die Hard started, eyes wide shut,

592
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: and he woke up right at the moment.

593
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: Of the sex party no, and I'm like, this is a.

594
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Feat that only men can can accomplish.

595
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: I think, oh, yeah, it's like they hear the clarion

596
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: call of sites on screen and they're like, move out

597
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: of my way.

598
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Oh. It was hilarious as he woke up and kind

599
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: of like looked around for a minute and then he goes,

600
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: is this a bad movie? I went right back to sleep,

601
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, solid.

602
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Had he seen the eyes of my hut before? Yeah?

603
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: He's like, I just can't. I can't remember if it

604
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: was bad or not. And then just went back to sleep,

605
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: and I.

606
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, he said him on the couch,

607
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: he set a mouth, thank you, because that's kind of yeah.

608
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot about about that.

609
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: And I wish now, I wish he was on the

610
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: podcast to talk about what I would have loved to

611
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: have heard that perspective. Well your first so okay, So

612
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: my movie for the theme Christmas Assholes is from nineteen

613
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: ninety nine. It was written by Stanley Kubrick and Frederick Raphael,

614
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: based on the book Tromoville by Arthur Schnitzler. It was

615
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: of course directed by Stanley Kubrick. It's called Eyes Wide Shut.

616
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Men have to stick it in every place they can,

617
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: but for women.

618
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: Women, it is just about security and commitment and whatever

619
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: the fuck else.

620
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: A little over simplified alice, but yes, something like that.

621
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: If you men only, I'm gonna do a one sentence

622
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: synopsis right now, good luck. A married guy loses his

623
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: goddamn mind, descending into a creepy sexual underworld run by

624
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: rich white elites after his wife smokes a joint one

625
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: night and admits to him that she had a fantasy

626
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: of sleeping with another man.

627
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Absolute fucking perfection. The fact that this whole movie takes

628
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: place because his wife had a thought makes him the

629
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: quintessential Christmas asshole.

630
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: That is absolutely what I'm about to present to you

631
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: right now.

632
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: We are aligned on the thesis.

633
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: Foreshore Simpatico, Symthetico.

634
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: So I don't even know where to begin. First of all,

635
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: had you seen this movie when it came out? Did

636
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: you see it when it came out?

637
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: I did.

638
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: I did too in the theater. By the way, there

639
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: is a lot.

640
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: Of mythology around this movie back then and now even

641
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: I remember before this movie came out, right, I was

642
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: a full ass adult, you know, processing what movies are

643
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: coming out soon.

644
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: It was chaos before this movie came out.

645
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Like the press was so up in arms about what

646
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: this movie was, what they'd heard, Like there was just

647
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: so much about this film, right, they had pretty much

648
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: no information about what it was actually gonna be about

649
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: or what was actually going on on set. I remember

650
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: also there being so much vitriol after it came out,

651
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: like hmm, And so when I was doing research, I

652
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is interesting. Wouldn't it be great

653
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: to go back and like read all this stuff. Let

654
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: me just tell you, there are so many bad takes

655
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: about this movie. Like I made the mistake of going

656
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: to fucking reddits.

657
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh am and it is you really want to end

658
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: your year with a fucking bang.

659
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Listen if it is a cesspool of conspiracy theories and

660
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: like the darkest film nerd takes about this movie.

661
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: It's so insane.

662
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: I would not recommend it. I haven't done it, but

663
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: I also wouldn't recommend it.

664
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: I mean there is generally a lot of mythology about

665
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick. I mean people think that he faked the

666
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: moon landing for Christ's sake, like.

667
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 4: A lot of people have too much time on their hands,

668
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: they do.

669
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: And like so on some level, I expect this level

670
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: of nerdery around Eyes Wide Shut, but I was like

671
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: not prepared. After I did research, here's the things that

672
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: I've distilled and just the sort of simple things that

673
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: you need to know about this movie. Okay, number one,

674
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: this was Stanley Kubrick's last film, very last film. He

675
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: died six days after he screamed what was at that

676
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: point the final cut of this film.

677
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: To the studio heads at Warner Brothers.

678
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: It was the first movie that he had made in

679
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: twelve years. The last one that he had made was

680
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: Film Metal Jacket in nineteen eighty seven.

681
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: It took four hundred days to shoot fuck.

682
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: That typical movie takes like thirty to sixty.

683
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

684
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Actually in the Guinness Book of World Records as the

685
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: longest continuous film shoot ever.

686
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: Good Lord.

687
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: The entire production was shrouded in mystery.

688
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: There were many rumors about what was happening on the

689
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: set and what the film was about.

690
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: Many of it was wrong.

691
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: By the way, it starred probably the most famous married

692
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: couple in the modern Hollywood era, who divorced roughly a

693
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: year or so after this film was released.

694
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

695
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: And it was purposely intended to be a salacious sexual

696
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: film for adults, but because Kubrick died before it was

697
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: officially released, it was heavily altered by the studio in

698
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: order to get an R rating, including using CGI to

699
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: cover these kind of graphic sexual scenes.

700
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: So that's a lot already about this.

701
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Movie that is so much and I will I will

702
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: throw in there this and this is just mostly for

703
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: me to orient myself on how to feel about this movie.

704
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about nineteen ninety nine here, right, Like,

705
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: this is a weird era for culture. I think we've

706
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: talked about this before on prior episodes. I call it

707
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: a low point for feminism. You know, we were in

708
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: this kind of like boy band, you know, American.

709
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Pie era of.

710
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Like sexuality was very strange in this era. And I

711
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: will point y'all to the episodes that Krena Longworth did

712
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: about this movie as part of her Erotic Nineties series.

713
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: She goes really hard on that.

714
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: And I think it's really really interesting, but it's also

715
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: a good way to kind of talk through kind of yeah,

716
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: the way that culture was, the way that Hollywood was

717
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: at this moment in nineteen ninety nine. So anyway, listen

718
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: to that please and just generally listen to her. She's great,

719
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: we've had her on the podcast before. But okay, okay,

720
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: So this movie is about a married couple named Bill

721
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: and Alice, who are obviously played by Tom Cruise and

722
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman. Bill is a doctor. Alice is a stay

723
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: at home mom of one they have a daughter named Helena.

724
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: They've been married for ninety years I think. And at

725
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this movie, they attend this Christmas

726
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: party that's being thrown by this very wealthy creep named

727
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Victor Ziegler, and he's played by Sidney Pollock, the famous

728
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: Sidney Pollock.

729
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: I just want to say that I hold this movie

730
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: personally responsible for the unbelievable ick factor of hearing Sidney

731
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: Pollack say the word pussy.

732
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, don't even get me started.

733
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Just going to say that ruined. The man has had

734
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: a startling and stunning career. That ruined it all for me.

735
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was enough to give it an X rating

736
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned.

737
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Don't have Sidney Pollack say pussy's our granddad?

738
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: Cut it out.

739
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

740
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Plus, I have to say we're going to talk about this,

741
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: like the nude equity in this film being so off.

742
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: It's like unreal.

743
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Oh, the idea that the only time you really see

744
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: any kind of male nudity is also Sidney Pollock, And

745
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is so fucked up.

746
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: They're giving us nothing, zero, They're giving us nothing. They're

747
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: dismantling this man's entire life and career and giving us

748
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: nothing in the process. Justice for Sidney Pollack, justice for

749
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: my goddamn ears and eyes.

750
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Percent Oh my god.

751
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got this like married couple at this

752
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: rich guys party. They're off kind of flirting with other

753
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: people almost immediately, Like Alice is dancing with this like

754
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: older Hungarian guy who kind of looks like a John

755
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: Wick villain, and she's dude.

756
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: Did you notice that everyone seems, especially Alice, seems to

757
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: be talking very slowly, Like the first forty minutes of

758
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: this movie could have taken place in ten minutes if

759
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: everyone just picked up the pace a little bit.

760
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: I know.

761
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: I was like, were they off like snorting horse tranquilizers

762
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: before this ball?

763
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: Like what's happened?

764
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: What was their pregame? It was like mamm ma, ma, man.

765
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm bad at flirting, but I know not

766
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: to do that.

767
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Oh and uh. There are some stylistic choices that I

768
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: think that Kubrick made in this movie and has made

769
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: in his other movies, that I think he thought was

770
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: mysterious but then.

771
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: Sometimes comes across it's just weird, just like why has

772
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: that happening?

773
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, also comes across as like, have you ever

774
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: met a human woman? Like a human woman flirting and

775
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: in her Reverie is not rolling her eyes in the

776
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: back of her head and talking like a wind up

777
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: doll that has its no batteries.

778
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

779
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, and like, we'll get to this in a second,

780
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: because I feel like you could pull a easily pull

781
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: a rip chord about all of this too, So uh again,

782
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to rain me the fuck in because

783
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I got a lot of thoughts. So Alice is.

784
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Hungarian guy.

785
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Bill is flirting with the like two young models, right,

786
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: and they're basically like, we want to take you upstairs

787
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: and fuck your brain's out, and he's just like.

788
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and I'm like that would have happened.

789
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: However, Victor, one of his little henchmens, comes down and

790
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: it's like, excuse me, sir, we need you in the

791
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: bathroom upstairs because my boss has just had sex with

792
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: some random woman. She's naked on a chaise lounge overdosing

793
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: on a speedball, So we need your.

794
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: Help in a bathroom bigger than nine of my apartments combined.

795
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: This bathroom has a couch, has two couches, two end

796
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: tables with lamps. Yeah, it's the biggest bathroom I've ever

797
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: seen in my life in a New York City apartment.

798
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

799
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick was all about those bathrooms, as you might

800
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: know if you were if you are an astute observer

801
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: of his filmography. But even I was like, Yo, this

802
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: bathroom is wild. Like there's a giant.

803
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Painting of a naked lady like beaver out, there's there's like.

804
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: There's end tables in a bathroom. How is this possible?

805
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: How rich is this guy?

806
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: Victor? For Christ's sake?

807
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: How do you have twenty foot ceilings and end tables

808
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: in your fucking bathroom where you take shits?

809
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: Well, I will also argue that all of the rich

810
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: people in this movie are Christmas ausholes, just generally, so

811
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: absolutely so, Yeah, okay, this is a lot already. Right,

812
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: You're like, immediately right off the bat, you're like, Bill

813
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: and Alice run with a real weird crew.

814
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: This is a weird crew.

815
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: But also what's up with them? Are they swingers? Are

816
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: they seeing other people? Are they going through rough patch?

817
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: Like you don't know?

818
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Right? So, at the same time, before, right before the

819
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Speedball episode happens, Bill sees a former medical school pal

820
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: named Nick Nightingale, and he's played by Todd Field, who

821
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: we've talked about four. He's the director of Tar and

822
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: he's been in a couple of movies. So he directed

823
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: uh Little Children, right.

824
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: Yep, and he's been in a lot of Nicole Hollef

825
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: Sainer movies.

826
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're definitely, you definitely know who he is. So

827
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: he didn't finish medical school. He is now a jazz

828
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: piano player. And they're like, hey, buddy, how's it going.

829
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, Oh, I'm a jazz panel player. Now

830
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: come and see me in the village later if you're around.

831
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: You know.

832
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: That's another interesting point too. This movie is supposed to

833
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: be set in New York City, but it was actually

834
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: filmed in London. Oh and they built a New York

835
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: City set at Pinewood Studios in the UK, which is like,

836
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: so I think that contributes to the uncanniness of this film.

837
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's egregious. It's so obvious.

838
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is obvious that it's not in New York.

839
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: It looks like it's a back.

840
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: Lot by the way, So oh okay, here's where the

841
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: film starts getting juiced up. Okay. So after this party,

842
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Bill and Alice go home, they get into their sea

843
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: through pajamas and they smoke a joint.

844
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 3: Okay, and you Alice ever see you don't ever see

845
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: Bill smoking. They are on Alice the whole time, because

846
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: God forbid you see Tom Cruise smoking in a film. Yeah,

847
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: that you're post scientology, Like post scientology.

848
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: I don't think he ever, he would never do it.

849
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

850
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: Alice is stone as hell, by the way.

851
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 4: And she's like, you can film me smoking all fucking day.

852
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll argue later that I feel like

853
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: Nicole is the one that went hard in this movie,

854
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: and it was pretty much the only one. But we'll

855
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: save that for a moment. But uh so, Alice's stone

856
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: as hell. She goes in on Bill hanging out with

857
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: like these two young models at the party. They starts

858
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: to have an argument. Bill says some fairly ignorant things

859
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: about how wives and mothers are so bound to their

860
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: duties that they would never cheat on their husbands, and

861
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: that he never has to be jealous or worried about

862
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: his wife because she's such a dutiful mom.

863
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: And she's like, let me rock your goddamn world, right.

864
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: And she is definitely on that chronic because she basically

865
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: tells him. She tells him in return, well, guess what,

866
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: Once I saw this hot sailor and I dreamed about

867
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: having sex with him and leaving our entire family.

868
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: That was the most hardcore part for me was She's like,

869
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: I would have given up literally everything for one night

870
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: with this dude, our child, our life, everything.

871
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: So that is the inflection point of this film, is

872
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: that she says, I I wanted to fuck this guy

873
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: so bad I would have left you and our daughter.

874
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: And Bill.

875
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Spins the fuck out by this stoned to conversation.

876
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: By the way.

877
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: That this is the story for the rest of this

878
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: film is that he is like, holy shit, why would

879
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: you say that?

880
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: You know that is.

881
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Ultimately the thing that you're like, what, Oh, my stone

882
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: ass wife said some weird shit to me.

883
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: Some weird and very human shits. She didn't say she

884
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: went and fuck this guy. She says she thought about it.

885
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: Guess what, if you're married, you are not dead, You

886
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: still have desires, you still think about other people. You

887
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: probably don't act on it, and that's fine. Yes, I

888
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: don't know why it sounds so upset that people aren't

889
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 3: cheating on each other. I'm not like, that's fine, but

890
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: it's like a human emotion, like you still have desire

891
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: and fantasy, and you have your own fans life, and

892
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: I don't think everything needs to be shared with your partner.

893
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 3: And this is the classic fucking example of why, because

894
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: this man couldn't handle it to the point where he

895
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 3: almost contracted HIV to prove his point about how fucking

896
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: insane this made him.

897
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: Yes, So here's how the rest of the movie basically

898
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: goes from this conversation. Okay, he gets a call in

899
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: this moment from the daughter of one of his patients

900
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: who apparently has just died. So he goes to this

901
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: house in the middle of the night, and this daughter

902
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: is like, I'm sad my dad is dead, but then

903
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: immediately starts coming on to Bill in front of her

904
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: dead father, And as a viewer, you're like, what the

905
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: hell did they have an affair? Like, what's going on?

906
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Is she grieving so much that she's you know, coming

907
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: on to him? No, no, no, it's that Literally, Bill

908
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: as a character is exuding so much sexual energy that

909
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: everybody that he runs into wants to have sex with him.

910
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: Like man, woman, young old and it happens the entire movie.

911
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: And we're talking about Tom Cruise, who, by the way,

912
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: in the beginning of this film when they have a

913
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: little sexy moment with Nicole, he has a little sexy

914
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: moment with Nicole Kidman, and it's like watching a brother

915
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: and a sister touch, Like it is the least appealing, enticing,

916
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: sexy thing I've ever seen in my fucking life.

917
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: That is something that has come up in a lot

918
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: of the criticisms about this film. I mean, there was

919
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: even rumors that they were like that they had hired

920
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: like sex therapists to be on set to be like.

921
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: Hey, married couple perform married couple.

922
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: Things, and they were like, no, we can't, we're too famous,

923
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: and you know, something like that. I mean, it's crazy,

924
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: it's crazy how much like in is in this film.

925
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: That is something to think about.

926
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: But I this entire idea that Bill is like just

927
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: just this sexual lightning in a bottle type of thing.

928
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't figure out if it's funny or ridiculous.

929
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

930
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: So after this scenario of going to see this grieving daughter,

931
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: he leaves the house and he's like walking around New

932
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: York in the middle of the night. It's a very

933
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: after hours esque situation for him, and he's sitting there

934
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: trying to come to terms with the fact that he

935
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: wants to get revenge on his wife for having a thought,

936
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: for having a thought, for being too fucking high and

937
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: having weird stoner thoughts. Okay, you ready understand that every

938
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: citizen in America wants to sleep with him, And in

939
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: spite of all this information, he absolutely cannot have an

940
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: affair if he tried, Like something happens every time, like

941
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: and he's out there trying real hard to make it happen.

942
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: He's pulling the doctor card. He's like, I'm a doctor.

943
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

944
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: Like gives him a clearance to like go anywhere and

945
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: do anything, and he still fails.

946
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: He pulls that that doctor card, literal doctor card, like

947
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: he's a policeman pulling a badge. He pulls it like

948
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: every five seconds in the movie, like, ps, I'm a doctor,

949
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: here's my proof, And you're like, who needs that?

950
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: You're right?

951
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: And that is something that I think the film. That

952
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: I do think is really great about this film is

953
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: the idea that he is just really bad at getting

954
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: laid like he just can't do it, and there's all

955
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: this evidence that he should and could, but nope, it

956
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: just it ain't happening for him. So his desperation gets

957
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: so insane that it brings him back to Nick right

958
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: because he's like, oh, Nick's playing jazz at a club

959
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: that it's not in London but is actually in Greenwich Village.

960
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: And Nick's like, hey, buddy, listen, i gotta split in

961
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: a few I'm going to this weird party. I gotta

962
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: perform there in a blindfold, but I will tell you

963
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: that there are hot women there. So horny ass bit

964
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: is like I want to go to this party now

965
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: so badly that I'm gonna wake up a dude in

966
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: the middle of the night that was a costume shop

967
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: so I can get this outfit to wear to this party.

968
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wake up a stranger.

969
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I've had two failed attempts. My wife called during

970
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: my attempt to have sex with a sex worker, yeah

971
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: and ruin that.

972
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: So now I'm just gonna rely on my jazz buddy.

973
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: Like I'm a fucking nineteen fifties dude from Santa Barbara

974
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: looking to get their kicks. Yeah, we go to my

975
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: jazz buddy. Yeah, and this costume shop where this guy

976
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: is like, pay me what you have to. Basically, this

977
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: guy is just like, give me all your fucking money

978
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: and I'll give you this weird costume like I don't care.

979
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't mind my weird young daughter Leally Sobieski

980
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: in the corner being you know, fucked by these two

981
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: Japanese guys or something.

982
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so.

983
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: Like that part to me is so I don't even

984
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: know what to think about that.

985
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: Those characters.

986
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a little like distracting, to be honest.

987
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: And it wasn't thought through, Like it could have been

988
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: a much more different pressure point in that movie, but

989
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: it was not carefully thought through, and I feel like

990
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: her humanity wasn't considered at all, and it just wasn't

991
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: necessary because it wasn't. It didn't feel like a fully

992
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: realized scene, even though we do come back to those

993
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: characters at some point, like, it doesn't feel fully realized.

994
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 3: I could have done without.

995
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: It, well, and there might be some thoughts I have

996
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: about that in just a second when I kind of

997
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: pull this all together, because ultimately it's a lot of

998
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: information you're going through right, So Bill is now at

999
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: a tuxedo, a black floor length cloak, and a carnival mask,

1000
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: and he straight up walks into this giant house in

1001
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the woods, in the middle of nowhere,

1002
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: where people are also wearing robes and masks and they

1003
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: are having essentially this.

1004
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: Ritualistic after hours orgy.

1005
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: It is like a lot of time has passed since

1006
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: I've seen this part, and I gotta say, this shit

1007
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: looks like an a twenty four Witch movie right now.

1008
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm like in the monitor, I'm like, oh, everybody's

1009
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: talking backwards, and there's like a dude with one of

1010
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: those like Catholic mass incense make things where he's like

1011
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: swinging it around on a chain, and it's kind of

1012
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: to me like it's supposed to be creepy. It's supposed

1013
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: to be sexy. It slightly is, but mostly now it

1014
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: just seems kind of corny to me.

1015
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and maybe this is post lockdown talk pandemic speak.

1016
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: It looks filthy, like the surfaces, the place itself looked

1017
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: filthy besides the people in it what they were doing,

1018
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: Like you gotta wipe some surfaces. I need to see

1019
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: some people there with buckets and mops, like something else

1020
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: needs to be going on here.

1021
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, orgies.

1022
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: Now, in my mind, I'm like, hmmm, looks kind of gross. Yeah,

1023
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: looks like you need a lot of hand sanitizer to

1024
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: get through that experience. No condoms anywhere, and no black

1025
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: people anywhere.

1026
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I was looking this time.

1027
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, forget the titties and the sex happening. I'm

1028
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: not even like phased by that shit anymore. Where are

1029
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: my black people? Where's the Latina? Give me something? No?

1030
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: That is again, these just sees rich white elites throwing

1031
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: their fucking end of the remake of Suspiria party, and

1032
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is this? And Bill is okay?

1033
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too, lots and lots of

1034
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: drama behind this party. This naked lady shows up and

1035
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: tells Bill, listen, you gotta leave before anybody finds out

1036
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: you're here. You're gonna be in deep danger, which seems

1037
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: very dramatic, where I'm like, are they really killing people?

1038
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Are they really gonna kill somebody that's not supposed to

1039
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: be at the orgy? Oh good?

1040
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: And they're all wearing masks. It's not like he can

1041
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: go run out to the fucking New York Daily News

1042
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: and identify anybody.

1043
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: Shit, the fucking Grinch could be in one of those

1044
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: like who cares.

1045
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: No one knows anybody no ons, you're just seeing floppy boobs.

1046
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: You're not seeing anybody's face. And this is again, this

1047
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: is the part where I realized there was zero nude

1048
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: equity in this movie, which pisses me off, Like I'm like, okay,

1049
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: so all the women in this party are in thongs only,

1050
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: and the men.

1051
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Are in floor leg cloaks.

1052
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: And tuxedos even during the sex scenes. How are you

1053
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: gonna have an orgy and Nazi dong in this modern day?

1054
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: How are you gonna have an actual orgy? People fucking

1055
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: everywhere every which way and you're not seeing a penis?

1056
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, no balls, nothing.

1057
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Well, and that's okay.

1058
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: This is definitely this definitely came out before the Donaissance.

1059
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: For sure.

1060
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: This was we were going a prey Donaissance era. But

1061
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: this is ultimately I think part of what Okay, it's

1062
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: complicated because there's there I see why people were like,

1063
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: is that all there is? After this movie came out

1064
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: like we were told that we were this was gonna

1065
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: just blow people's minds. This was gonna be some like

1066
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: European erotic thriller sex film starring these very, very very

1067
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: famous people, you know, And I'm like, going, it's not

1068
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: even like an andre Zulawawski movie. It's like there's like

1069
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: no male nudity at all. Like there's no male nudity

1070
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: at all, Like come.

1071
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: On, Sallow went harder, Salow went harder, come on.

1072
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And not only is there not any male nudity,

1073
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: but they're in floor length black cloaks, like fully clothed,

1074
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: beyond fully clothed. I mean, the fuck out here with that.

1075
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: That is just annoying. But you know, but here's the thing.

1076
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: Bill gets busted at this damn party and they try

1077
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: to humiliate him and demask him in a very dramatic way,

1078
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: and at the last second, the you know, the naked

1079
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: lady from before, is like, let him go, you can

1080
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: have me again. What is the mythology behind this party?

1081
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: We don't really know. The next day, Bill's like, oh shit,

1082
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: what was that party? Let me retrace my steps, And

1083
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: of course he's running into brick walls about all of it.

1084
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: There's like nothing to see here. Mind your own business,

1085
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: and guess what, the lady that helped him get out

1086
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: of the party, she's.

1087
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: Now dead.

1088
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: And Nick Nightingale is gone.

1089
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: Nick Nightmail's gone. So it's like a huge mystery and

1090
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: it goes from there. Here's what I will say, though,

1091
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: this movie is obviously about Mail insecurity in my mind. Okay,

1092
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: here's a guy that's so upset that his wife has

1093
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: sexual needs and desires that he spends an.

1094
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Entire evening trying to get revenge but can't.

1095
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: The idea that we don't see Alice go off and

1096
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: have her own wanton night somewhere in New York, The

1097
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: fact that she is at home watching TV and literally

1098
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: eating snack Wells. You remember snack Wells.

1099
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 3: Good lord, The nineties were a dark time.

1100
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: That is I think all you need to know, right, because.

1101
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm like zero percent interested in Bill getting laid When

1102
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: I watched this movie, you like he's a Christmas asshole.

1103
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't. And again, it's kind of this big question

1104
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: of whether or not if Stanley Kuper had lived, maybe

1105
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: this would have been different. I mean, because he was

1106
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: very known for changing things up until the very last minute.

1107
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: The movie, though, doesn't really interrogate why Bill is so

1108
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: triggered by this confession, this Stone confession, so we're just

1109
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: left to deal with him at like face value. And

1110
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: all I'm thinking is you mad, bro, That's all I'm thinking.

1111
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: And she has no agency, yeah, at all. She's actually

1112
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: this is this movie interrogates Mail insecurity so much that

1113
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: it feels like she's being punished for having sexual desires

1114
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: and a thought process, right that he the most of

1115
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: the movie is him kind of looking to punish her.

1116
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1117
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's a lot of scenes though, that are

1118
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: designed to hammer home this point that he's kind of

1119
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: walking around with this wounded male ego. I mean this

1120
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: frat boy scene, which is so over the top. It's

1121
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: basically like Bill walks past these like college guys and

1122
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: they're like saying the nastiest stuff about him, you know,

1123
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: being gay and everything. I think that that's on purpose.

1124
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: I think that's basically designed to, you know, again, underscore

1125
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: the point that here's a guy who's so fragile because

1126
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: his wife's like I want to fuck another dude in

1127
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: my head, and now he's just walking around wounded and

1128
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: it's just like wow, now, whether or not whether or

1129
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: not I kind of want to sit in that character

1130
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: all the time in a movie this long is another

1131
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: for another time, but it really is, though what you

1132
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: just said, it just feels like, almost punitively not Alice's

1133
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: story right ever.

1134
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: Ever, and he's intent on ruining Christmas for her and

1135
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: their child because he's upset again that she had a thought.

1136
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm never getting over that. I'm never getting over the

1137
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: fact that he was pissed off that she had a

1138
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: goddamn thought and told him in a moment of honesty

1139
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: fueled by pot We've all been there, We've all definitely.

1140
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 4: It's astonishing.

1141
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: It's an astonishing, almost masturbatory experience to watch this because

1142
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: I do not care about this dude. Yeah enough. And

1143
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: they haven't done the work in the film. Possibly in

1144
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: the short story, I don't know, I haven't read it, yea,

1145
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: or in the novel, I should say, but not in

1146
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: the film. They have not done enough work to make

1147
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: me want to sympathize or empathize with Bill, right.

1148
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: And I think that part of the and I could

1149
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: be wrong because I've never read the original text, but

1150
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to be designed as a dream state, right,

1151
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: because you're basically like and that's what I mean about

1152
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: a rip chord. Right, You're like going, okay, so maybe

1153
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: this is all in Bill's head. Maybe we're watching a

1154
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: dream that Bill is having about like his response to this,

1155
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, bummer information that his stoneass wife gave him.

1156
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know, there's not enough set up for

1157
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: me to spathi with him. And there's the idea that

1158
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is playing him too, which is sort of like,

1159
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't know at points, kind of like that's maybe

1160
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: why also I don't like him, but also interesting that

1161
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: it's him, because you know, Tom Cruise is just such

1162
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: an alpha male in our culture, and you know, he's

1163
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: like fucking Maverick from Top Gun. Is it funny to

1164
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: watch Maverick not get laid in a movie?

1165
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: That's kind of amusing to me.

1166
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: But I think there's just so much to talk about

1167
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: in this movie, because that's the thing is that, like,

1168
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: I think the reason why people hated it so much

1169
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: when it came out is because everybody wanted to believe

1170
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: that these world famous actors like oh my God, Nicole

1171
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Kevin and Tom Cruise were gonna be naked and having

1172
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: graphic sex, and you know they're doing something so they're

1173
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: working with Stanley Kubrick, Like, what an a tour And

1174
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, there's no way that they were gonna

1175
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: have graphic sex, even working in Europe with Kubrick.

1176
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: There's no way.

1177
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: They're too famous for that. And if you feel betrayed

1178
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: that they didn't like star in a porn for you, then.

1179
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: Sorry about yourself.

1180
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, yes, I think that that contributes

1181
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: to the mythology, is the idea that they didn't go

1182
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: as hard as they probably should have. I mean, we'd

1183
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: be having a different conversation if Tom Cruise showed Dong.

1184
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: Let's get serious, if he was bold enough to show

1185
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: that dong. But that's just me being a student of like,

1186
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, Culton exploitation films, though, is that like you know,

1187
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: to me, I was like, this is not even Showgirls, right,

1188
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: this is something else. I think it's, you know, a

1189
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: very creepy and uncanny film obviously, but I think Kubrick

1190
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: made those movies. Yeah, you know, the lighting that the

1191
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: slow tracking of this film is weird.

1192
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: You know, that has itself so seriously it's like it

1193
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 3: could not take itself more seriously.

1194
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: I think that's one of.

1195
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: The pitfalls of creating this air of mystery around your

1196
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: work is that it's never going to live up to

1197
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: what people's expectations or fantasies or you know, what they

1198
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: can conjure up in their own head. So it's a

1199
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: real and he does that, like he did that himself

1200
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 3: by conjuring up so much mystery around how he was

1201
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: filming and who he was filming with that it kind

1202
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: of naturally lent itself to this lack of transparency. And

1203
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: then when people are always going to be disappointed by

1204
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: whatever you give them, even if Tom and Nicole did

1205
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: do a porno, it would have been disappointing in some

1206
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: way because the rest of the film, aside from those

1207
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: tentatively sexy moments, was about him only. So it was

1208
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: always going to fail in my mind, you know, when

1209
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: pushed up against what the public was imagining.

1210
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: Right, and like this is a pre Internet era.

1211
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: If this movie was made now, this we wouldn't even

1212
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: be talking about any of this.

1213
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just.

1214
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: We're so further down the field at this point when

1215
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: it comes to.

1216
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: Erotic thrillers or you know, this type of kind of.

1217
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, this type of big, huge, talked about

1218
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: tent pole type of film, right, So I don't know.

1219
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have been able to get

1220
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: away with the mystery as much in the modern era

1221
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: as he was back then. Like I said, I think

1222
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: we were in a different era sort of culturally about

1223
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: sex and about sort of you know, what we expected

1224
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: from celebrities and everything like that.

1225
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1226
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: It's just to me, as much as there are parts

1227
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: of this movie that I don't really like as much,

1228
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: I do think as a overall experiment, it's an interesting text.

1229
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, okay, Like, so I guess this is

1230
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: what would happen if Nicole Kimmen and Tom Cruise thought

1231
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: that they were Charlotte Rampling and Dick Bogart in a

1232
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: European art film or something, you know what I mean,

1233
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: Like this is as close as we're going to get,

1234
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like I don't.

1235
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: Cloying to me, Like that's a little bit cloying to me,

1236
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: is that, Like you this this idea of like we

1237
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: are the biggest superstars on the planet, but we still

1238
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: want to be artsy and unknown and be able to

1239
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 3: do things that indie artists can do is so unrealistic

1240
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like part of me wants to say, like, you.

1241
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: Know, not that they shouldn't have done this film.

1242
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: Again, I think Nicole Kinman was amazing in this movie.

1243
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: I don't think they should they should have backed away

1244
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: from the film, but I think they should have known

1245
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: or been able to translate to us somehow that they

1246
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: always knew they were going to be limited, limited by

1247
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: their own superstardom. Yeah, and I think it's it's unrealistic

1248
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: to think that you can do this kind of film

1249
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: at that level of where they were culturally at that

1250
01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 3: point and think people were going to give you that

1251
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: that leeway to be more independent and creative and not

1252
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: even creative. But just like, I don't think that the

1253
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 3: world was ever going to give them what they thought

1254
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: they were going to the grace that they thought they

1255
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 3: were going to give them, because you're not in the

1256
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 3: artist anymore. The highest paid actors in the fucking world.

1257
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, it felt like it felt

1258
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: like Tom Cruise was way more transgressive in Interview with

1259
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: the Vampire than he was in this movie totally. I mean,

1260
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 1: I think the idea that this film comes from his perspective,

1261
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: and it's so his perspective and he's so unlikable in

1262
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: this character is interesting. Obviously it's but it's also yeah,

1263
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean this, listen, I could truly go on about this.

1264
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: I think I've established many Christmas assholes. I think I've

1265
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: obviously made the case of Bill is a Christmas asshole.

1266
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: Victor is definitely a Christmas asshole. Cavalier bullshit speech at

1267
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: the end of the movie about that lady Die, I'm

1268
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: just like, holy shit, Sydney Pollock went off the rails,

1269
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: like in every stretch, like he is gone.

1270
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 3: I was very thankful for Michael Clayton when it came out,

1271
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 3: because I'm like, thank you for redeeming Sidney Pollock in

1272
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 3: my goddamn eyes.

1273
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, Like again, like I probably

1274
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: had too much to say about this movie this week,

1275
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: but I we had to tackle it because it was

1276
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: just something that was like, once I put it on

1277
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: the table, I think we were like, oh, yeah, we

1278
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: got we gotta do this movie for Christmas because it's

1279
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: a Christmas classic and.

1280
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 3: It's an unforgivable choice for Christmas assholes, but it fits

1281
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: it works so well.

1282
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you chose it.

1283
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 3: This is I would say this is my hereditary but

1284
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: i'd seen it before. I'm sorry to put you through

1285
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: that trauma, by the way, but that is also my

1286
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: bottom line, and is this is not a good movie.

1287
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: I hate that this is Stanley Kuper's last movie because

1288
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: it ain't good. Yeah, flat out, if you're gonna say,

1289
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: if you're gonna minimize it to like one sentence, this

1290
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 3: is not a good film. It's an interesting film, it's

1291
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 3: a funny film, it's an infuriating film. It is not good.

1292
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm a I'm a mixed bag too.

1293
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: I definitely think it's interesting. I definitely think it's it's

1294
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: it's almost fun to dissect in a lot of ways.

1295
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where I fall in terms of like

1296
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: my passion for it, Like I I'm probably like down

1297
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: the middle.

1298
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad I saw it again, I know that for sure.

1299
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: But I also, you know, sometimes I think giant, fucking

1300
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: weird thought experiments are valuable.

1301
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 3: So absolutely, there you go. You know, absolutely I'm glad

1302
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 3: we watched it. Biggest Christmas assholes I think we've ever done,

1303
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: We've ever tackled.

1304
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: There's just so many the riches, its whitest Christmas assholes

1305
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: probably ever rivals of the McAllister clan.

1306
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: So well. My pick for Christmas Assholes was released in

1307
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. It was based on the book Nothing

1308
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 3: Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorpe, which I did not know.

1309
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: The screenplay is by Jeb Stewart and Stephen E. Desuza.

1310
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: It was directed by John McTiernan. My movie is die

1311
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: Hard Gotta Fight into the Christmas Party by mistake? Who knew?

1312
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: Now?

1313
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: This movie, in my mind, kicked off the larger cultural

1314
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,440
Speaker 3: conversation about what constitutes a Christmas film.

1315
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely yep.

1316
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: So I think that, like you were having that conversation earlier,

1317
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 3: a few people in film were having that conversation earlier

1318
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 3: where you were like, if it has a Christmas tree

1319
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: and it's a Christmas movie. This was kind of the

1320
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: kickoff of a Christmas film that is not a family

1321
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: friendly film on its front, facing on its front. So

1322
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 3: it's a classic for many reasons. Almost everyone has seen it.

1323
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 3: I don't need to dissect the film for you because

1324
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen it, you want to understand what

1325
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because it's over the fucking top a one

1326
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: sentence synopsis. A New York City cop lands in LA

1327
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: to have Christmas with his estranged family and gets caught

1328
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: up in a terrorist plot that has him running around

1329
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 3: a building in LA with no shoes and no shirt,

1330
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,480
Speaker 3: trying to take on a team of twelve by himself.

1331
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: Like what what?

1332
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: I really want to ask you something up top because

1333
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: I could not stop thinking about this this time.

1334
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this movie in a while. The barefoot thing.

1335
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I forgot how he became barefoot. So when

1336
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: I watched that scene, I was even more upset because

1337
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, that motherfucker Apps cosolutely had time to throw

1338
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 3: on a pair of shoes before he started running around

1339
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: this building like fucking Rambo.

1340
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this he could have easily started in

1341
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: French connection for Popeye's Hammertoe. But there was this moment

1342
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: where I was like, I remembered him being barefoot when

1343
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: I was a child.

1344
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: I remember the barefoot thing.

1345
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: But then I was like, like, you completely forgot how

1346
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: he got barefoot, which now was ridiculous, by the way,

1347
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: the whole reason why he's barefoot in the moment. But

1348
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: then I'm like, why was that a choice? Why did

1349
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: that film make that choice for him to be barefoot.

1350
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. In my opinion, it's for that

1351
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 3: one fucking scene at the end that is such a

1352
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: Hollywood ass move where they're like, wouldn't this be cool

1353
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: if we had this dude having to like crawl over

1354
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: broken glass with no shoes on, And then they probably

1355
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: reverse engineered it to him going to his wife's office

1356
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: and take making a fucking spongebath and a sink after

1357
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: a long flight, and some weirdo sitting next to him

1358
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 3: on his flight said, you know what's great for jetlag

1359
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: is you take your shoes off and you curl up

1360
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 3: your toes like little fists, and then you don't have

1361
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: jet lag anymore. One That is pure bullshit. That's not

1362
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 3: how jetlag works on a human brain and body.

1363
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 4: But that you can just see the moves.

1364
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 3: It was so reverse engineered so that he could be

1365
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: barefoot for that one fucking scene.

1366
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: I had to get your take as a screenwriter about that,

1367
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: because I was like, it definitely seems reverse engineered, But

1368
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: to like, why the payoff doesn't seem that great?

1369
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 4: I guess it isn't.

1370
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: It isn't.

1371
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: That's the other thing they do all this shit, it

1372
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: is not even worth the fucking payoff. And in the meantime,

1373
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: the other two hours of this movie, because I forgot

1374
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 3: also that this movie is like two and a half

1375
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: hours long.

1376
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, me too.

1377
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 3: So the other two hours of this the fucking film, you're

1378
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 3: just watching this man thinking like, I hope his feet

1379
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: are very calloused, because otherwise this is impossible for him

1380
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: to be slipping around these slick ass fucking office floors

1381
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 3: with no shoes on.

1382
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: No, at one point I would have realized the scenario.

1383
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: I'd been like, okay, there's a terror's plot unfolding in

1384
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: the hallway.

1385
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 2: Let me put the shoes on real.

1386
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: Quick, just because you'd never know. This is an office building,

1387
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: this is a public arena. What if there's you know,

1388
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: and this ain't.

1389
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 4: Even my office, This ain't even my office.

1390
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: But no, he continued to just run barefoot throughout this

1391
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: entire movie.

1392
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: I always think that's so fucking funny.

1393
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, I had to ask, thank you.

1394
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: Just such a fucking choice. So he shows up and

1395
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: is it. He's he has been sent to Limo. So

1396
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 3: he's got this big overstuffed, you know, teddy bear, and

1397
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 3: he's coming to see his kids, and he's talking to

1398
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: the river played by Devereux White. The limo driver's name

1399
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: is Argyle, and he becomes crucial to the plot as

1400
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: well eventually. But he's just kind of talking all this

1401
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: shit and is like, I'm not exactly divorced, we're not

1402
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 3: exactly split up, and our gyle calls it right off

1403
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 3: the bat. He's like, so, basically, your wife has a

1404
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: career that you didn't think was going to take off,

1405
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 3: so you didn't make any effort to move here and

1406
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: support her. And that's also the basis of the fucking film.

1407
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, So I think John McClain off the

1408
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: bat is a Christmas asshole for that.

1409
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1410
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, I was surprised that that was

1411
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: the setup in a weird way. Again, I hadn't seen

1412
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: this in a long time, but I was like, oh,

1413
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: he's I mean, we can call this episode you mad bro?

1414
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?

1415
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 3: Like both of our films could have qualified for a

1416
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: baby girl with as you do It. Just so many

1417
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 3: weird decisions here based on male fragility.

1418
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, why is he fucking so pressed

1419
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: about her having a damn job? But anyway, and a

1420
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: great job.

1421
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: So she's working at fucking Nakatomy Plaza in the Nakatomy Building,

1422
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: Nacatoy Corporation, and she's like the head of corporate affairs.

1423
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: She has a great ass job. And again cast is great.

1424
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: So John McLean is Bruce willis his wife, Holly Gennaro

1425
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: McLean is played by Bonnie Bidelia eighties royalty great actress.

1426
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 3: We love Bonnie Bidelia. Yes, also the name body Bidelia,

1427
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: come on beautiful. And he's also pressed when he shows up.

1428
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: So he shows up in the app like you know,

1429
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: late early afternoon, late evening, and they're kind of having

1430
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 3: their Christmas party, and he's pressed when he shows up

1431
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 3: because he has to sign in and he looks for

1432
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: his wife's name on this old tech computer that made

1433
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 3: me want to fucking pew. But he looks for his

1434
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 3: name or name under McLean and realizes that she is

1435
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: now going by her maiden name Gennaro, and he's so

1436
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 3: he's already pressed. The male fragility is already on full.

1437
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 4: Display right out the gate, yep.

1438
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: So he gets up there and takes his little sponge

1439
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 3: bath in her executive bathroom, and she's like, I guess

1440
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you're here. You should stay with me

1441
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: and the kids. Don't stay out in fucking Pomona. It'll

1442
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: take you eight hundred years to come see us, like

1443
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 3: you'll be spending your whole vacation in the car. So

1444
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: they're kind of starting to patch things a little bit,

1445
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: or at least she's trying to make some headway to like, yeah,

1446
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 3: we can at least talk, and I know the kids

1447
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 3: want to see you, so come to the house.

1448
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 4: She leaves because.

1449
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: She's got this coked up fucking coworker, Ellis, who gets

1450
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: killed so hard eventually and you can't wait for it.

1451
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: He's the fucking worst.

1452
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: This is the man who's doing bumps a coke during

1453
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:56,919
Speaker 3: a hostage crisis.

1454
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 4: So when he goes, you're like, thank god.

1455
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 3: So she's out with her folks, enjoying the party, doing

1456
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 3: her thing.

1457
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 4: He's in the bathroom, and then all.

1458
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: Of a sudden, this truck pulls up and these hot

1459
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: these terrorists get out and they lay waste to the

1460
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: first twenty nine floors because they have a nerd with them.

1461
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 4: The nerd is THEO.

1462
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: He's their tech guy, played by Clarence Gilliard Junior, and

1463
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: THEO is like, look, there are like six locks on

1464
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: this thing, and we also need a computer code and

1465
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 3: I can do it, but it's going to take like

1466
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 3: two and a half three hours. So they put a

1467
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 3: clock on it immediately, right, like this is how long

1468
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: it's going to take, so you know how long John

1469
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: McLean's going to have to run around this fucking building. Right,

1470
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 3: But they come in. Lock down the elevators from twenty

1471
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: ninth floor down, lock the fucking lobby, They're pulling gates down,

1472
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 3: everything's just locked down. They have one particular maniac with them, Carl,

1473
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 3: played by Alexander Godinov, who plays a villain in every

1474
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: eighties movie he's ever been in.

1475
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, including The Money Pit.

1476
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 3: He shows up and he is so impatient to get

1477
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: this rollin that he slices through five giant fiber optic

1478
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 3: cables with a fucking chainsaw while his brother's trying to

1479
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 3: like carefully wire it at the bottom, and he's like, nope, burn.

1480
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,440
Speaker 2: So sloppy. It's just a sloppy dude.

1481
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: You can just the sloppiest fucking terrorist you've ever seen.

1482
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: And this group is being led by Hans Kruber, who's

1483
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: played by the iconic Alan Sidney Patrick Rickman, Rest in peace, King.

1484
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

1485
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: He died in twenty sixteen at the age of sixty nine.

1486
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 3: Because he's a fucking legend. Yeah, he also had pancreatic cancer,

1487
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 3: but he's a fucking legend.

1488
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 4: He's I'm going out at sixty nine.

1489
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 3: What's up? I'm sexy forever and there's nothing you can

1490
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 3: do about it. Wow, Alan Rickman. This is kind of

1491
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: my introduction to him as a child, Like this is

1492
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: my introduction to Alan Rickman. I know so many people

1493
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 3: who are younger than us know him as sever as Snape.

1494
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 3: And he's been in so many movies like you know, Truly,

1495
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 3: Medley Deeply and Hitchhiker's Guide, like he's done dog By.

1496
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 3: He's just done so many fucking great movies in his career.

1497
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: But for me, this was the intro to Alan Rickman.

1498
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: And he was terrifying and sexy from the midnight heard him.

1499
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, the voice is saying one thing, the face

1500
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: is saying another thing. I don't know how to feel.

1501
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm a child. I have not been introduced to Kevin

1502
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 3: Klein yet.

1503
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: You imprinted on him so fast.

1504
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: So fast, so fast, And he comes in and he's like,

1505
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: you know, dressed to the fucking nines, and he's like, look,

1506
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 3: and this is gonna Maybe this is typical for me

1507
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: in a Christmas asshole scenario where I flip the script

1508
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: on who's the real villain.

1509
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: I know he's the villain in the film obviously, right.

1510
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 3: I mean he shoots someone in the head point blank

1511
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 3: at least three times, like he is the villain. But

1512
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: if you pay attention to when he first introduces himself

1513
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: to these terrified people at this holiday party, he says, basically,

1514
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: we are here because the Nacotomi Corporation has been doing

1515
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: great evil in the world, and we are here to

1516
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 3: correct that.

1517
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 4: And the way they're going to.

1518
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: Correct it is by stealing six hundred and forty dollars

1519
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: in bearer bonds. Now, between the movie Heat and this movie,

1520
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: I had to look up what the fuck a bearer

1521
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: bond was, like, why are people? Why are people going

1522
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: to such lengths to steal these pieces of paper? And

1523
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: basically what I found out is that bearer bonds have

1524
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: no registration, so it's not like a like even like

1525
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,520
Speaker 3: a traveler's check, like they're issued to companies and governments

1526
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: and they can be sold, but the owner is the

1527
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: owner of the piece of paper, is the owner of

1528
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: the money. Basically, Wow, it's.

1529
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: Kind of like like a prototype for bitcoin or something.

1530
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 3: There's no trace, no trace, no trace, Like if you

1531
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 3: hold the paper, then you got the money.

1532
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 4: So that's why they're in the game. But I think his.

1533
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: I think his actual agenda is pretty altruistic. Sure, yes

1534
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: he kills people, but if you made that movie now,

1535
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: he would be a Robin Hood style villain, right.

1536
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the point break scenario where it's like, oh,

1537
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: these guys are you know, Robin rich people, but you

1538
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: know it's because they're not truly evil in that like

1539
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: traditional way. There's a good end to it, supposedly.

1540
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: Right, exactly exactly, And then you kind of get his

1541
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: point when he takes Takagi, who's kind of the big

1542
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 3: boss of the Knokotomi Corporation in this in La, he

1543
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 3: takes them up to his office and if you look

1544
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 3: outside of his window, he just casually has a bunch

1545
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: of like terra cotta fucking warriors out there, like the

1546
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 3: fucking terracotta army from the first Emperor of China that

1547
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 3: they unearthed. Like he's just got five of them hanging

1548
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: out in front of his fucking window in Century City.

1549
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 4: So you're like, who's the real villain here? Who is

1550
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 4: the real villain?

1551
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Corporate Greed is the real villain? Come on?

1552
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: Corporate Greed is one of the many Christmas assholes in

1553
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 3: this film, more so than Hans Gruber, even though that

1554
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 3: is one of the best villain names of all time.

1555
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I feel like everyone in this

1556
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 3: movie is named Hans. It's great. So we have this

1557
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 3: scenario now where yes there are terrors taking over this building.

1558
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: Yes they're messy, Yes there's a lot of them. But

1559
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: John McClean is like, I'm a New York fucking police officer.

1560
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 3: I can take this. I can do this. I'm at

1561
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: least gonna try. And I have to say that in

1562
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: the past I did not find his antics charming in

1563
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 3: the least. Even as a child, I'm like, what is happening?

1564
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Why is this man taking this on? Ye? This time around,

1565
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: it felt a little bit funnier to me. It felt

1566
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: a little bit more like, oh, yeah, of course he's try,

1567
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 3: Like what he literally has nothing to lose, he's not

1568
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: sure he has a family, he's not sure where he

1569
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 3: belongs in the world. He has nothing to lose, sure, sure,

1570
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: so of course he's gonna run around this building with

1571
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 3: no fucking shoes on and his white tank top.

1572
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 4: That by the end of the movie is pitch black.

1573
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 3: And of course he's gonna use his guns and fucking

1574
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 3: fire hoses and all kinds of things to start repelling

1575
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: through windows and down elevator shafts.

1576
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 4: Of course he is what does he have to lose.

1577
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: He's a sad dad at Christmas with nothing to lose

1578
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: and a gun, so he's running around this building like

1579
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: a maniac. I would pose that the next and biggest

1580
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Christmas asshole in this movie is the fucking Lapd.

1581
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cannot take it.

1582
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 3: The goddamn LAPD loses again. They are the biggest assholes

1583
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 3: in this movie as far as I'm concerned.

1584
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a bout oh fucking Dix.

1585
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god. They received no less than three distress

1586
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 3: calls before they sent one goddamn car that was piloted

1587
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 3: by Carl Winslow. Reginald Bell Johnson is who they send

1588
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 3: to this gigantic, forty.

1589
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 4: Floor fucking office building.

1590
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 3: When they're like, hey, shit's happening here, and everyone's like, ah,

1591
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: I don't think so why don't we send that guy?

1592
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 3: I can't really be something happening. Just ignoring the distress calls.

1593
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: McLean is on the walkie talkie like, hey, they're shit

1594
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: going down. I'm a New York police officer and they're like, Sir,

1595
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: this line is for emergencies only, and he's like, what

1596
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: the fuck do you think?

1597
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: This is?

1598
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: Lapd? Absolute Christmas assholes in this movie, and they send Look,

1599
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 3: they send Reginald Bell Johnson who's playing this character name

1600
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 3: Sergeant Al Powell, and he's doing his best, and he's

1601
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 3: doing his best in the face of some real fucking cocks. Yeah, okay,

1602
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: we have Paul Gleeson, quintessential eighties Dickwad who's playing his boss,

1603
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 3: and he shows up and he's like, stop talking to

1604
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 3: that dude, who's the only person in the building who

1605
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: actually knows what's going on and making any sense. Don't

1606
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: talk to that dude. I got this. So Powell is

1607
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 3: like rolling his eyes throughout half of his scenes because

1608
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 3: he's like, these motherfuckers they listening to me either, They

1609
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 3: just refuse to listen to people. Then the FBI shows

1610
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: up and they're pissed at the FBI shows up, and

1611
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, you didn't even want to do this job.

1612
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 3: How are you pissed at somebody else's coming in to

1613
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 3: take over?

1614
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 4: You didn't even want the goddamn assignment.

1615
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: O my god.

1616
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 3: Huge assholes, followed only by so so far. I think

1617
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 3: John McClain's a little bit of a Christmas asshole because

1618
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 3: the reason he's there is his pure misogynistic intentions. Yes

1619
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:49,520
Speaker 3: that have ruined his own life. Yes, asshole, lapd assholes.

1620
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 3: Hans Gruber murderer.

1621
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: Not a Christmas asshole. As far as I'm concerned, I

1622
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 4: like that.

1623
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.

1624
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 3: The last and final asshole that I will present to

1625
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 3: you and iheard is a lovely little asshole who is

1626
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 3: part of a news channel and is played by William Atherton,

1627
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 3: another solid eighties Dickwad playing this fucking broadcaster called Thornberg,

1628
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 3: and he's the if. He's indignant because he's the only

1629
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: one who thinks that anyone should be down there covering this,

1630
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: so he's first on the scene. But this motherfucker goes

1631
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 3: to such lengths to get this story that he shows

1632
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 3: up at Holly Gennaro McLean's house, threatens her fucking nanny,

1633
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 3: Paulina with deportation so he can talk to the children

1634
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: on live TV and ask them to basically give their

1635
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: last words to their parents on live TV.

1636
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 4: This guy's a cock of epic proportions.

1637
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh he is too wild, Like there's a point where

1638
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 1: you have too much ambition and you need to check yourself.

1639
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 3: That's this absolutely absolutely ambition is outweighing his common ascent.

1640
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 3: And he puts these goddamn children on TV and robes.

1641
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 3: They're asleep, They're dead asleep. They don't even know what's happening.

1642
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 3: They don't know that both of their parents are involved

1643
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:14,919
Speaker 3: in a hostage situation.

1644
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 2: It's like, get in front of this camera, just be like, hello, daddy,

1645
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: I love you.

1646
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 4: What will your last words to your parents be?

1647
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 3: What?

1648
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,839
Speaker 4: I'm five and I just woke up from a slumber

1649
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 4: where I.

1650
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Thought Santa Claus is gonna be the next fucking face

1651
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 3: I saw traumatic. So yes, absolutely, Thornberg is one hundred

1652
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: percent of Christmas.

1653
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,879
Speaker 4: Asshole. The movie's hilarious.

1654
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 3: We all know what it is, But if you don't

1655
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: go ahead and watch it from start to finish. It's

1656
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 3: free on a bunch of different services right now. But

1657
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 3: I think the fact that this is the basis for

1658
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 3: a multifilm franchise, and it's all because John McLean was

1659
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 3: mad that his wife had a better career than he did.

1660
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 3: That's the basis of Dieharden franchise. And I don't think.

1661
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone's talked about it before, but

1662
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 3: that's where I'm going. I know a lot of a

1663
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 3: lot of people have covered this film in podcasts and

1664
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 3: in critiques, but that's my two sents, is that I

1665
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 3: think this wouldn't have existed if John MacLean could have

1666
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 3: just been a better fucking dude and realized that his

1667
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 3: wife had a great job that he should support.

1668
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean both in both of our movies, it's like,

1669
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: one the guy is mad that his wife has a

1670
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: better job than him, the other the guy is mad

1671
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,959
Speaker 1: that his wife got stoned and says.

1672
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Some weird shit.

1673
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the entire movie hinges on these

1674
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: two things. It's so wild. I also want to I

1675
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: also want to say this for the record, in the

1676
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 1: same way potentially that I had no idea that the

1677
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Micheline company existed or had longevity and was tied to

1678
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: Michelin Guides. Okay, I didn't realize that they were French

1679
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and that I thought they were Michigan. Okay. For the

1680
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: longest time, starting when I was a kid and I

1681
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: saw this movie as a child, I totally thought this

1682
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: movie was a sponsored Sears Roebuck company film, Like I

1683
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: thought die Hard was like the Mac and Me of

1684
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: the Sears Roebuck Company.

1685
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh, this is like a sponsored

1686
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 2: Sears film.

1687
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 3: Why what is process?

1688
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Because did Diehard was a brand that I only remember

1689
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,799
Speaker 1: from Sears for when I was a child in the eighties,

1690
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I guess Sears decided to

1691
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: make an action movie and it stars the guy from Moonlighting.

1692
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: I love your little kid brain so much.

1693
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 2: It took me realized it wasn't though, right.

1694
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 3: I guess the guy in this Seagram's Fucking Cooler's ads

1695
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,799
Speaker 3: is now working for Seius full time.

1696
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: And I think they named the movie die Hard because

1697
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: it was like a common brand name in this era.

1698
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 1: But I just totally thought it was a corporate sponsored film,

1699
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I had no idea.

1700
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 3: Well, the book is.

1701
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 4: Called Nothing Lasts Forever.

1702
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 3: That's a far trip from nothing last Forever to get

1703
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: to Die Hard. Also, why was there never a movie

1704
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:40,879
Speaker 3: in the franchise called Die Soft, Die Soft, Die Quiet,

1705
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 3: and Soft in your home when you're ninety as you're

1706
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 3: explaining all your adventures to your children and grandchildren Princess

1707
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 3: Bride style, I soft.

1708
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I'm so glad that I had

1709
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 1: to watch this movie again because it's been a long time.

1710
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: And I was definitely like, McClain is an asshole, a

1711
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Christmas asshole. Like I know that there's redemption for him

1712
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the film, but I'm also like,

1713
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: he's way mad about his.

1714
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 3: Wife, absolutely, absolutely furiously upset about all of this. He

1715
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't have even been in that goddamn building if he

1716
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 3: would be a little bit more chill about the fact

1717
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: that she had a career.

1718
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he'd.

1719
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 3: Be in home with his kids.

1720
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Also, he's got the typical New Yorker thing where he's

1721
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: like out in La going god fuck this place.

1722
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can't complain about that at all.

1723
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I feel like you can understand

1724
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: that a little bit more than I could.

1725
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 3: But I also love that he shows up and like

1726
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: lights up everywhere, Like he's smoking in the airport, he's

1727
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 3: smoking in the car, he's smoking in the building, he's

1728
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 3: smoking while he's shooting people. He's smoking everywhere. Yeah, he's like,

1729
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking diehard New York cop. I will ash

1730
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 3: all over your goddamn life. I will ash all over

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01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 3: my children's presence. That fucking giant stuff bear that he

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01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 3: brought with him from New York probably smelled reached of cigarettes. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I totally thought that.

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01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I was like, don't be hugging this bear that you're

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01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: about to give your kid while smoking a cigarette. And

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01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: then and then that kid's like my giant Teddy that

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01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: smells like a pack of cools.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have secondhand smoke Inhalationian just from getting this

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01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 3: gift for my dad, who hasn't been here for months

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01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 3: because he's mad about my mom being more successful than

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01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: he is. Oh God, damn love this movie full of

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01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 3: Christmas assholes.

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Speaker 1: So I think we did it. I think we made

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01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 1: the case for both these films being Christmas asshole classics.

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01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: And I had a fucking blast. So I'm so glad.

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01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we do this every year. It always

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01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: makes me laugh.

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01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Me too, I look forward to taking down another Christmas

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01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 3: classic next time.

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01:37:55,479 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: Only three hundred and sixty four days away, so we

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01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: are off for the next two weeks. But here's a

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01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 1: couple things before we leave. If you want to email us,

1753
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: we are at us oution did Pod at gmail dot com.

1754
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: Send us short questions for the bonus episodes. We also

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01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: have a po box if you want to send us handwritten.

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01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 3: Letters, which you can find on the link tree on

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01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: our social media. Please find us on our socials at

1758
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 3: I Saw Pod, on Instagram, Blue Sky and Twitter. Our

1759
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: link tree is is link to our Instagram account and

1760
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 3: you can also leave us a voicemail. Now. To play

1761
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 3: on the show, all you have to do is record

1762
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 3: a voice memo on your phone.

1763
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 4: Email it to I Saw what you Did.

1764
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Pod at gmail dot com and please make it sixty

1765
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 3: seconds or less and record it in a quiet space.

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01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: And we have merched obviously probably a little too late

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01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,759
Speaker 1: in time for Christmas, but if you go to exactly

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01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: right store dot com, you can find our give Me

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01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: the b of the D T shirt and black crew

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Speaker 1: neck sweatshirts. And so that's exactly why store dot com,

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01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 1: Forward Slash Collections, Forward Slash I saw what you did.

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Speaker 4: And don't forget our bonus episodes.

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01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: We have new bonus episodes that drop on the main

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01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 3: feed every third Thursday of the month.

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Speaker 1: That is right, Okay, do you want to give the

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01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: folks the movies for the episodes that's going to drop

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01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: after the New Year?

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01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: I do. Next week we'll be watching Saw from two

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01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 3: thousand and four and Total Recall from nineteen ninety. Well,

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01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 3: Happy New Year. You're gonna hear from us again on

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01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 3: January ninth. Please enjoy the rest of this year. We

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01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: hope it's less shitty than the start of the year,

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01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 3: middle of the year and end of the year have been.

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Speaker 1: And Danielle, it's always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast

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01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: with you. It's always a fucking flash doing this podcast

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01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: with Casey O'Brien, our producer. Everybody exactly right, all the

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01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: people that listen.

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01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 3: We love our listeners so much. Thanks, thank you for

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01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 3: hanging in there with us, and we'll be back on

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01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 3: the night.

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01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: Happy New Year.

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01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Produced by Casey O'Brien.

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01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 3: Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel, artwork by

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01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 3: Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart, Karen kle Gareff,

1795
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 3: and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and

1796
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 3: Twitter at I Saw Pod, and you can email us

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,759
Speaker 3: at I Saw What You Did Pod at gmail