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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wednesday Bible Study.

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Speaker 2: We are so grateful that you have decided to devote

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Speaker 2: some time to studying the Word of God with us today.

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Speaker 2: We are continuing our study of the Book of Job today.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go ahead and turn there, we'll

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Speaker 2: be in Job chapter thirty three today. So my name

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Speaker 2: So let's open up in a word of prayer and

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Speaker 2: jump into job chapter thirty three. Lord, thank you for today,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the opportunity to get together as brothers

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Speaker 2: in the room and brothers and sisters around the world,

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Speaker 2: and study your Holy Word, help us to to see

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Speaker 2: the foreshadowings. Today is young Allah who is gonna He's

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Speaker 2: gonna have some wisdom today. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: we're all continuing to anticipate the upcoming confrontation with Job

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Speaker 2: and You the one and only living God, and may

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Speaker 2: that be something that we all have a healthy fear of.

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Speaker 1: In your name, we pray Amen. So let's go there.

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Speaker 2: So we're now in Job thirty three and Allah who

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Speaker 2: starting to talk. Last week he kind of set the

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Speaker 1: Uh, he wasn't impressed with what he had been hearing.

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys asked me before we started this,

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Speaker 2: saying how long does some of these theologians think this

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Speaker 2: that's somewhere around four months that all this was this

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Speaker 1: That we don't don't write that down and.

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Speaker 2: It may be that he's allowing for Job to respond,

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Speaker 2: That he's just making sure that we all know that

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Speaker 2: Now he does seem to want Job's attention and Then

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Speaker 2: doesn't say anything other than I'm about to speak.

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Speaker 2: Everybody listen as I roll through this, and I say

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Speaker 2: My whole motivation was I'm frustrated, I'm mad, and I'm

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Speaker 2: I have you ever started on like a rant and

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Speaker 2: want to know that, don't you. I mean, somebody, sit

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to tear you down and lift me up.

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Speaker 2: So he's establishing that. So in verse four he says,

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Speaker 2: by God to another man who's created by God. What

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Speaker 2: is he telling him right there? I'm not better than you.

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Speaker 2: So now Verse five, answer me, if you can set

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Speaker 1: Quiet and let you speak.

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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. But it appears that's that Job just

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Speaker 2: said anything of that.

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to do that.

434
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just a childhood dream, you know, you ever

435
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: had that where there's somebody and else and in the

436
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: dream you're like, I don't know how this happened. But

437
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: me and Joe Green and I are like great friends.

438
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: We're having lunch. So so anyway, but I have. I

439
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: remember one vividly. Is it was God teaching me something

440
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: about his design for marriage. And in the dream there's

441
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: like this really wicked, horrifying looking gypsy which.

442
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: Kind of looking thing.

443
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Speaker 2: And I'm just denouncing this demon in the name of Jesus.

444
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: And I'm just denouncing it and I'm just denouncing it

445
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: in the name of Jesus, and I'm I'm getting so tired,

446
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean, and I can barely stand there and and

447
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: and this demon just keeps coming back at me and

448
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: keeps coming back at me, and I'm just denouncing it, denouncing,

449
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: and then finally I just get exhausted where I can't

450
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: even stand, and all of a sudden, I look and

451
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: my wife comes in and tatch me on the shoulder

452
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Speaker 2: and says, sit down and rest. And I sit down

453
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Speaker 2: and rest, and she starts denouncing it. And I woke

454
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: up and I was like, that was from God. You know,

455
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: I told you that I gave you your perfect helper,

456
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: and you're not using her.

457
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Speaker 1: You're you're you're you're.

458
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: Out there on your own, trying to do all this

459
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Speaker 2: on your own. And I've got I've given you a

460
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: gift right here in your home. Uh, that's right beside

461
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: you and you and you need to understand that when

462
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: you get Wren down, she's there to undergird you. She's

463
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: there to she she's she can denounce these demons just

464
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: like you can, you know, so, so use this gift.

465
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: And Sharon and I have thought about that many many times.

466
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Speaker 2: So that was one I remember that was very clear.

467
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Speaker 2: Another one is that I remember in a dream hearing

468
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: clearly that this phrase and a dream I don't make

469
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: you partially righteous, I make you fully righteous. And I

470
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: woke up to the sound of hearing I don't make

471
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: you partially righteous, I make you fully righteous. And I

472
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: was like, and so Sherry's like, what's up, I said,

473
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: believe or not? I said, I woke up with I

474
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: think the Holy Spirit telling me that, reminding me that

475
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: Jesus makes me fully righteous, not partially righteous. And she goes,

476
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: what do you think that means? I said, maybe it's

477
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: a reminder. Maybe I need to remember that, and and

478
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Speaker 2: I will tell you that I always preach that every

479
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: time now that Jesus doesn't make you partially righteous, it

480
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Speaker 2: makes you fully righteous. And then another one was what

481
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: became the man church. I mean that that was as clear,

482
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: because I did not want to lead men's ministry.

483
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I did not want to lead it in my local church.

484
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: No way. Know how.

485
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Men's ministry is this frustrating as a ministry as you

486
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: could ever be part of. We were encouraging a group

487
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: of guys out in Texas just this past weekend, and

488
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: you could just hear them saying, I mean, everybody tells

489
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: us they're coming, then they don't show up. We got

490
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: people won't come to the They say they're coming to

491
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: the Bible study and they don't come. You know, we

492
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: the church won't. You know, they're always they that we

493
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: can't get them to embrace us. And I said, welcome

494
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: to men's ministry. I said, of course the church will

495
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: make a big fuss about this on Father's Day. But

496
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: I said, but trying to get them to make it

497
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Speaker 2: prioritize at around the clock stuff. But I remember clearly,

498
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: which is why this ministry. I mean, I'm telling you, guys,

499
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: most of the time, our guys are and we have

500
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: some big events here there, but most of what we

501
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: do is in the middle of nowhere in towns. You

502
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: never heard of sitting down discipling twenty guys sitting down

503
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: talking to forty guys. You know, some churches are excited

504
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: because they had fifty guys come and we go there

505
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: just like you go to a big conference. And because

506
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: the Lord God Almighty said it said I'm calling a remnant,

507
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: I literally got up out of my bed and stood

508
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: beside my bed and I was like, what do you

509
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: want me to do?

510
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: And as clear as.

511
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: I have ever felt in my spirit, he told me

512
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: he wanted me to go and to disciple men and

513
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: understand that it's just gonna be a remnant, and not

514
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: get caught up in numbers. Don't get caught up how

515
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: many people are doing it. Just go do and tell

516
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: you what, tell you what you're gonna do. So I

517
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: go to eat lunch the next day, I tell you

518
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: two as I go to church with I'm supposed to

519
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: lead the men men's ministry this church. I don't even

520
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: know what our church does in men's ministry. I have

521
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: no idea. Last thing I remember was men's fraternity, and

522
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: when it ended, we never met again. So is there

523
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: anything even going on? And they both start laughing, and

524
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: I said, what are you all laughing at? And they're

525
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: looking over my shoulder and they said they said, the

526
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: guy who's currently currently leading the men's ministry just walked

527
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: into this lunch. I said, what they said, there he is,

528
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: he just walked in, So I said, I got up.

529
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: I walked over and said, hey, I'm Rick Burgess. He

530
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: said okay, and I said I'm supposed to help you

531
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: with men's ministry and he just in tears just got

532
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: in his eyes. He said, I've been praying for God

533
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: to call you to this. And I said, well, let's

534
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: get to work. And that's what became, which is now

535
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: the Man Church dot com. So, yeah, God does speak

536
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: in dreams, but there's no indication in scripture at all

537
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: that job was ever spoken to in a dream. But

538
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: a lot who's making the point, this is one way

539
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: that he does it, He says sixteen. Then he opens

540
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: the ears of men and terrifies them with warnings. Sometimes

541
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: the dreams and the visions that God gives people are frightening,

542
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: they're terrifying. You ever had one of those? Yeah, look,

543
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: it's I don't apologize you know when when people I

544
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: can't stand when people do things like well, now look

545
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: you're just trying to scare people. Now maybe I mean,

546
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know how to tell you this.

547
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: When I read Second Peter and he talks about the end,

548
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: the end of the world and how everything here is

549
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: going to be refined by fire.

550
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Speaker 1: Was that a big pick me up for y'all? Or

551
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: did that scare you? Okay?

552
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: And and and he and what what is Peter saying?

553
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I'd get my act together before I face that, right?

554
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: And so so sometimes if fear doesn't work. Have you

555
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: ever had like something happened to you, You nearly and

556
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: you nearly died.

557
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: You were getting right with God, weren't you?

558
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, I've had, I've have two of those.

559
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: One I was lost and if I had died, I'd

560
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: have gone to hell.

561
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Big time. You be.

562
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: You better believe I was trying to work it out though, Okay,

563
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: when when I was in that water and uh and

564
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: and and that rapid had me and suck me under

565
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: and pin me under a rock.

566
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Boy, let me tell you something.

567
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: You you're sitting there at twenty years old, and you

568
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: think it's about to be over, You'll you'll start, you'll

569
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: start trying to get everything right. And by the grace

570
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: of God, he let me survive that. And then the

571
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: other was in that airplane, Man, good night. I never

572
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: will forget that everybody in there was redeemed, Praise the Lord,

573
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: and that thing was bouncing around, and I still remember

574
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: one of our buddies on Team Man Church looked at

575
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: me and he said, you think we're about to die?

576
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'm not an expert on this,

577
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: but it doesn't look too good. And and he said,

578
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: he said, I ain't afraid to die, but I sure

579
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: ain't crazy about the process. I said, I know if

580
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm the only one saying if this thing's going down,

581
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: I hope we knows dive. I hope we don't do

582
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: anym rolls. We're all out here burning for a little while.

583
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's be sitting into this thing at one

584
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: minute and with Jesus in the next, you know, and

585
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: uh so yeah, and and you know what everybody did

586
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: in that moment. Let's make sure there's nothing unresolved between

587
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: us and God, because because we're real close to.

588
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Him right now.

589
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: And uh, let me tell you what you don't want.

590
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: If you're an airplane, you just never want. You don't

591
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: ever want the pilot to look over his shoulder and scream,

592
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: hang on okay, And because I've experienced it and you

593
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: just don't want that.

594
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: I want him to look over here and say, don't

595
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: worry about it.

596
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: Just getting a little bumpy. I ain't never had one,

597
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: and throw back as the earphones and go hang on

598
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: and uh. And so I said, if he's saying hang

599
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: on and then him looking out and that storm's going around.

600
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: And I asked him later, I said, when did you

601
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: know we're in trouble? He said another plane had gone

602
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: through the storm and was going around asking the tower

603
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: to assess the damage on the plane. And he said,

604
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: and we were heading right into the same storm. And

605
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: I said, well that's not good. So but you know what,

606
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: we all got right with Jesus and we survived. I

607
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: tell you it was funny too. As we we landed

608
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: and we were doing a big man church events there.

609
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: So everybody on the ground's excited. I mean there, they've

610
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: been waiting on this for for a year and here

611
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: here we all come in. We got the merchandise and

612
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: all this stuff, got speakers, and they're so excited and

613
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: they're they're coming up in the van. They're on the

614
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: tarmac and bones was with us, our road manager. You

615
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: got obvious, said I'd give everybody a minute, and uh,

616
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: we work work. There's we got people kissing the ground,

617
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: We've we've got we've got you know, dock coke all

618
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: over us.

619
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Speaker 1: We've got our heads.

620
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Are bleeding for where we were hitting the ceiling even

621
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: seat belted in and uh, and we all walked around,

622
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: just everybody, give us a minute.

623
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Speaker 1: And uh, what do you think everybody was doing it?

624
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: Soon as we set up and got ready and set

625
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: the tables up and got everything ready, what do you

626
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: think everybody on the crew started doing.

627
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: I'll show you.

628
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: They got that phone out. What were they looking at

629
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: weather apps? You think he's gonna do that again on

630
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: the way home. So I say, guys, we got to

631
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: focus on the event. We can't worry about the weather

632
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: right now. We'll worry about that we get back on

633
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: the plane. So yeah, these things get our attention.

634
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: They do. And so sometimes God terrifies us, if that's

635
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: what it.

636
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Takes and seventeen why here it is that he may

637
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: turn man aside from his deed and conceal pride from

638
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: a man. The purpose of God terrifying us, the purpose

639
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: of God allowing us to go through calamity so many

640
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: times with my hand up, including me. It's just to

641
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: break our pride, is to take us down a notch.

642
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Paul talks about this, right, what does he say about

643
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: the thrown in his flesh? Why is it there to

644
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: keep him from being conceited. Paul says that he even said,

645
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: this is so miserable that a demon again has been

646
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: allowed because God could have stopped it. There's a demon

647
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: that harasses me about this. What do you think that

648
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: demon is saying? I thought God loved you. You've asked

649
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: him three times to take away this misery and he

650
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: won't do it. You don't think the demon was having

651
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: a blast with that?

652
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Well, I thought he loved you.

653
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: Well he did love me, apparently when I look at

654
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: the cross, and if he didn't, if he never did

655
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: another thing but that he's done plenty. But but Paul says,

656
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: the reason why God wouldn't remove it, tewod Corinthians, we

657
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: went through this is to keep me from being conceited

658
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: so many times. It just breaks our pride and the

659
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: lot who's making that point?

660
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Now?

661
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Why do you think he's saying that? I don't know

662
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: whether you've got a pride problem? Or not, Joe, But

663
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm won't tell you that's one of the reasons he

664
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: does stuff like this. Remember he's been apologetic on suffering.

665
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: Right now in eighteen he keeps back his soul from

666
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: the pit, his life from perishing by the sword. This

667
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: terror that God has allowed might deliver you from eternal death,

668
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: from the pits of hell.

669
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Right.

670
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: So many times when people are in misery and they

671
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: think they're about to die, so many times they make

672
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: sure that they're right with God, and sometimes it delivers

673
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: you from hell. Sometimes you got to understand that the

674
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Lord God that we serve. I mean, there's so many

675
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: things I've said this before when I've been in other

676
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: countries and had atheists debating me, is that I say,

677
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: you know this concept y'all have where you make God

678
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: out to be unreasonable because they always do. Oh, I

679
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: can't believe in God send people to hell and I

680
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: always come back and go. But that's not the God

681
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: I serve. The God that I serve is delivering us

682
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: from hell. We're sending ourselves to help. He's actually delivering

683
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: us from the hell that we deserve. We're the ones

684
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: that keep wanting to send ourselves there. So many times

685
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: God says, what, I love you enough to scare you

686
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: to death so that you'll repent. I want to make

687
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: you so miserable that you finally repent, if that's what

688
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: it takes. If you knew that your child was going

689
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: to die, and one way to keep your child from

690
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: dying was to make them uncomfortable, kick them out of

691
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: your house, make them suffer like the prodigal dad. Did

692
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: you ever wonder why the prodigal dad never begged his

693
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: son not to go? You know what he said, I'm

694
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: gonna turn him over to it. And when did the

695
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: sun come to himself? When do you spend all of

696
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: daddy's money? And was eating little things out of the

697
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: pig slot? And what he say said I would be

698
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: better off being a servant in my daddy's house and

699
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: to be out here without him.

700
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: And he went on back? When did he go on back?

701
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: When he became miserable?

702
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: And so I mean, I'm not saying that we I

703
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: wish this on anybody, and I wish it wasn't this way.

704
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: But there's the way things maybe we wish they were,

705
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: and then there's the way things are, and human nature

706
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 2: is the way it is not the way I say

707
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: that about men's ministry. We got to stop trying to

708
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: implement strategy for the way we wish men were. The

709
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: strategy better be designed for the way men actually are.

710
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: And so that's what we did, and we've seen some

711
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: great results from that. So nineteen things shift a little

712
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: bit now. Nineteen through twenty two, God speaks through suffering.

713
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: God sends some.

714
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, into his will through allowing them to suffer.

715
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Nineteen man is also rebuked with pain on his bed

716
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: and with continual strife in his bones.

717
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: That had to hit close to home. I mean this

718
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: is clear.

719
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about the chastening on a bed

720
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: of pain, constant just just hurt and distress in his bones.

721
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: You got did y'all not hear Joe talking about that's

722
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: the way he was? You know what?

723
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: You know what a lot who's saying sometimes that's what

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 2: he does. That's what he does. Uh, he speaks through suffering.

725
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: You're saying he's not speaking, You're you're suffering?

726
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Is him speaking?

727
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: Twenty so that his life loathes bread and his appetite

728
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: the choicest food. You become so sick you don't even

729
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: want to eat, and it results in severe weight loss.

730
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes you ever been so you ever been so sick?

731
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: Now for me, you got to imagine how sick that's

732
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: got to be. Where you don't eat, where you don't

733
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: even want to eat. You ever, you ever went going

734
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: through one of those stomach viruses you think I'll never

735
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: eat again. I'll tell you this. If I ever have

736
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: food poisoning, I don't eat that again. You know, I mean,

737
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: even though it's okay, it means it doesn't always, But

738
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: I just say no. Let me tell you. Me and

739
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: mushroom gravy, we're over. And you know, mushroom gravy pretty good.

740
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: Not for me. I had a bad.

741
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: Experience of mushroom gravy. I got in some bad mushrooms.

742
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: So you know what, I don't eat it. If I

743
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: just see it, I'll just god, I'm good.

744
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, So.

745
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: We've been there, right, and a lot of times. What

746
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: do you lose when you see you lose your appetite?

747
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: You don't feel like you eat it.

748
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Twenty one.

749
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: His flesh is so wasted away that it cannot be seen.

750
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: And his bones that were not seen now they stick out.

751
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Well you see that visual right, He's become so emaciated.

752
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: It appears he didn't even have flesh. It's like it's

753
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: just skin hanging on bone and bone sticking out.

754
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: And by the way he looks this way twenty.

755
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: Two, his soul draws near the pit in his life

756
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: to those who bring death, says, you can survived as disease.

757
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: That's the first part.

758
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes he gives you disease and you go near the pit.

759
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: But it says, but now let me tell you, when

760
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: you lose it every single time is when somebody murders you.

761
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: Those who bring death. Murder is going to result in

762
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: death every single time, thus its name. So it says,

763
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: but what about this, What about if he were to

764
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: send an angel to rescue you. Sometimes he does that,

765
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: And look at twenty two through twenty five. If there

766
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: be for him, Now here's where we see the big foreshadowing. Okay,

767
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: this is where it gets really good, really new Covenant

768
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: stuff here here. However, what if they're for him was

769
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: an angel? Let's look at the next word. A mediator,

770
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: one of the thousand to declare to man what is

771
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: right for him?

772
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: What if a mediator?

773
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: What if an advocate showed up to defend you to

774
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: the point that they they defended you so much that

775
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: they made you right with God. Hello, what a foreshadowing

776
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: to Jesus. And here's a lie who he seems to

777
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: understand we need something like that. Remember a few times

778
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Job started thinking like that. Well, hopefully you know he's

779
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: hearing this, going yeah, I had that same thought twenty

780
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: four And he's merciful to it, and he says, deliver

781
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: him from going down to the pit.

782
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: Look at this next one.

783
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: I have found a ransom, guys, a gracious intercessor to

784
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: plead to your judge for mercy and being willing, willing

785
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: to pay your ransom. Do you are you glad that

786
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: what they're they're they're they're they're they're thinking forward.

787
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: About we got to experience think about.

788
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: Unlike like Job, unlike Alahu, we have the advocate. This

789
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: was already done for us, So we do have. I mean,

790
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: can you imagine that while you slept last night, that

791
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: the son of God, sitting next to his father is

792
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: interceding for you. I paid his ransom. Can you believe

793
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: this guy? I paid his ransom. We're working it out.

794
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: He's being sanctified. He's not there yet. He's still got

795
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: that sin of nature. Well, the anger of God burns.

796
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: But then our tryune God that features the Son and

797
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. We paid this ransom, so the ransom

798
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: had to be paid. So don't ever get in your

799
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: that somehow the ransom was forgiven.

800
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

801
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: The ransom was just paid by Jesus. And if you

802
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: don't have Jesus, it's going to be paid by youth.

803
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Because God is holy and we are not. We need

804
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: this advocate, We need this inaccessor. We need this person

805
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: to pay the ransom and praise God in Jesus.

806
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: We have it.

807
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: He goes on in twenty five. Let his flesh become

808
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: flesh with youth. Let him return to the days of

809
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: his youthful vigor.

810
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: What is he talking about here? I would put this

811
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: this way.

812
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: If there were just some way that we could be

813
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: born again, we just could go back and have be

814
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: a baby again, start over, take this horrible mess here

815
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: in job, and be restored to almost like you were

816
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: just what regenerated born again. Wouldn't that be something? And

817
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: you know what we get to say. We know about

818
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: it because we've lived it. Twenty six. Then man prays

819
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: to God and he accepts him. He sees his face

820
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: with a shout of joy, and he restores to man

821
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: his righteousness.

822
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: Repentance, repentance, job, repentance will work.

823
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: Maybe you pray to God to be restored. God, here's

824
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: your prayer of repentance, and he restores himself to you,

825
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: and he makes you righteous again. What gives Heaven much

826
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: to celebrate?

827
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Ala? Who's talking about this?

828
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: Long, long, long long before a baby was ever born

829
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: in a manger, before God took on human flesh, this

830
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: was already our cry.

831
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: As a human race.

832
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: We're crying out for Jesus. It's just so moving. Twenty seven.

833
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: He sings before men and says, I have sinned and

834
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: perverted what is right, and it was not repaid to me.

835
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: I've been forgiven. I deserve punishment and death. Justice was

836
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: not carried out. I was shown mercy and grace and

837
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: a lot who says, oh, for such a day, now,

838
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: don't don't forget this. The beautiful thing here is I

839
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: have sinned and perverted what is right?

840
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Now?

841
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: What's that acknowledgment of my sin? That's repentance, you know,

842
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: if you got to be careful. There's this weird theology

843
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: out there right now that has stopped talking about repentance.

844
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. At Pentecost, when when Peter

845
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: gets it right for the first time and and the

846
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: apostles now.

847
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Have the power of the Holy Spirit. Uh.

848
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: The the the answer to the question from the first

849
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: crowd that gathered when they cried out to now Holy

850
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: Spirit inspired Peter no longer going to deny Christ again.

851
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: They cry out to Peter, our hearts are cut by this, this,

852
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: this very spirit of God.

853
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do? Repent? Guys?

854
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: If that's the first thing that was ever said in

855
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: the New Covenant, then repentance is crucial. Remember that Jesus

856
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: said that before he was crucified, repent or perish. He's

857
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: he's he's setting up what's coming. And you remember the

858
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: Pharisees were like, well, now do these pagans do they

859
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: need to repent more than we need to? And He's like, no,

860
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 2: everybody repent or perish and and and so repentance is key.

861
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: I deserve punishment, right, That's where we lose that gratitude

862
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: when somehow we forget what we deserved. I've heard Dave

863
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: Ramsey said, over over again, how you doing better? Than

864
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: I deserve, and when we lose sight of what we

865
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: deserve and how guilty we are, I think the problem

866
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: I mean it was I know with me. I think

867
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: the problem that keeps so many people from repentance is

868
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: they're too arrogant and prideful to admit they're wrong. Be

869
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: careful with people that can never admit they're wrong, because

870
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: you can get to where you're so enamored with you

871
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: always being right, and you're so resistant to ever even

872
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: considering that you might be wrong. You'll find yourself having

873
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: that attitude toward God.

874
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: What do I need to repent of? I mean it was.

875
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm certainly not making a political statement here, I'm making

876
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: a spiritual statement here. It broke my heart the first

877
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: time I heard President Trump be interviewed about repentance and

878
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: he said I don't have anything to be forgiven for.

879
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, I hope that's changed. That's a

880
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: lofty comment, But you know what that means if you

881
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: think you're a pretty good old guy and you haven't

882
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: done anything really.

883
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: That was grievous. You know.

884
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: I think some people think if they've never murdered anybody

885
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: in cold blood, that they're really a pretty good old guy,

886
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: but compared to God, we're actually not and we are wretched.

887
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: And you're going to see that play out. If you'll

888
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: stay with me till the end of job, you're going

889
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: to see that play out real clearly. Eighteen I mean

890
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight. He has redeemed my soul from going down

891
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: into the pit, and my life shall look upon the light.

892
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to live, not die eternally because I've been redeemed,

893
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: I've been forgiven, and that has brought light into the

894
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: darkness of my sin state.

895
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: Praise God for that.

896
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Much to celebrate now God's purposes and will close behold.

897
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: God does all these things twice three times with a man.

898
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: These things he means, the dreams, the visions, the chastening,

899
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 2: the chasening, the suffering. He does this over and over again.

900
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 2: It's a cycle job. It's been going on since the fall,

901
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: and God just continues to do these things until he

902
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: gets the result thirty to bring back his soul from

903
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: the pit, that he might be lighted with the light

904
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: of life. He's doing this because he's trying to deliver him.

905
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Remember we've talked about this before

906
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: in Bible.

907
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Studies past.

908
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: But let's ask ourselves a really, really hard question. Can

909
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: you ever get to the point that you see the

910
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: suffering in your life is gracious, merciful, a gift from

911
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: God as opposed to a punishment from God?

912
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: A gift from God.

913
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: Now, have there been things that I brought on my life,

914
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 2: because that are clearly punishment and result of my sin,

915
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: of course, but there's many times that calamity has entered

916
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: my life for my own.

917
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Good as a gift. It was merciful.

918
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: It was gracious because it got me to a place

919
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: that I couldn't get any other way. Can you can

920
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: you ever get that mindset that's a gift from God,

921
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: It's a blessing. It's gracious, it's merciful. The next wrapping

922
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: it up is a challenge to Job thirty one through

923
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: thirty three. Pay attention, O Job, listen to me, be

924
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: silent and I will speak. Sounds like it's possible maybe

925
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: that he had to demand Job's attention, and maybe Job

926
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: was drifting. I don't know. I certainly have been there.

927
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: I think if I was in the state that job

928
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: was in, I might drift off. You might have to go, hey,

929
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: get back, look back, up here at me. Of course

930
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: that's easy for me because my entire life, anytime someone

931
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: was speaking to me, they had to keep getting my attention.

932
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't do well in the lecture format,

933
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: so I apologized. Those of you that are in one

934
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: right now, I remember thinking better. I learned more if

935
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: you put me in a room that had no windows.

936
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: Thirty two. If you have any words, answer me, speak

937
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 2: for I desire to justify you, he says.

938
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Look, I'm here to justify you.

939
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: Is there anything that I'm saying that you would like

940
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: to say?

941
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: So speak up, speak for yourself.

942
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: And if you don't have anything to say, maybe you

943
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: just receive what I said. Why don't you just repent?

944
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: If there's something there, repent. If there's something else to say,

945
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: then say it. Do one or the other. Thirty three.

946
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: If not.

947
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Listen to me, be silent, and I will teach you wisdom.

948
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: So if this is the case, there's an assumption here

949
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: that the other three have failed to teach job wisdom. Right,

950
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: Why does a lie who have to teach you wisdom?

951
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: I guess that hadn't been told yet. You couldn't come

952
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: to any other conclusion, right, I mean, if my job

953
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: was to today, which it is, to teach you the

954
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: Bible and teach you. If the next person came up

955
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: and sat down and said, now, anybody want me to

956
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: teach you?

957
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: Chapter twenty thirty three of job, what would I have

958
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: to assume that guy? I didn't think I did it.

959
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: I didn't cover it. You know.

960
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: I will tell you that sometimes I have spoke places

961
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: and an MC or a pastor has gotten up after

962
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: me and apparently preached a second sermon. And sometimes I've

963
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: been like, I guess I didn't cover it. I guess

964
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: I didn't have that now. So so anyway, so he

965
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: now will take on the task of apparently teaching something

966
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: he thinks hasn't been.

967
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Taught yet, wisdom. So let's let's talk about this.

968
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: And we'll end. What position would we be in? Are

969
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: we people that can teach wisdom? Have we learned from God?

970
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Are we the guys that just continue to have to

971
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: be taught wisdom? Are you learning the things that God

972
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: is teaching? Are you applying the things that God is teaching?

973
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: Or do you just have to keep being taught it

974
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. I think about the

975
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: writer of Hebrews or as my wife calls him Paul

976
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: when he says, I can't believe that I keep having

977
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: to go over these basic one hundred level things some

978
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: of y'all should be teaching by now, but I keep

979
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: having to go back and teach you the basic oracles

980
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: of God. And I don't sense that from y'all at all.

981
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out there as a challenge for

982
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: us today. Do we still have to be taught these things?

983
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: Can we teach these things? And are we continuing? I mean,

984
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: are we moving on, meaning learning new things now as

985
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: opposed to continue to have to be taught the same

986
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: old stuff over and over again. Stick with me, because

987
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: apparently young Eliho says he's gonna teach us all wisdom

988
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: and we'll continue.

989
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: That next week.

990
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: Lord Willing, let's pray, Lord, thank you, thank you for

991
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: the message today. Seeing Jesus in this presentation from this

992
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: young man is amazing. I'm so thankful that we have

993
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: all the things.

994
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: That he's yearning for.

995
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lord, thank you that we do have the

996
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: advocate Jesus. Are you out there, has Jesus interceded for you?

997
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: Have you repented and left faith in yourself and place

998
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: faith your faith in that intercessor that we do have,

999
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: that advocate, that mediator who says, if you repent and

1000
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: confess me as your lord, I'll go to the Father

1001
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: and I'll present you as blameless.

1002
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll present you as.

1003
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: Full righteous, not partial, fully righteous because of the I

1004
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: paid the price. I paid the ransom. I'm here to

1005
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: take you before my Father and presents you as righteous.

1006
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: Maybe you're out there in today's your day, you said,

1007
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: you know what I want, that advocate. I want that mediator,

1008
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I want that intercessor, And you're just saying today, Jesus

1009
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 2: forgive me. I leave faith in myself and I place

1010
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: my faith in you. Thank you for paying the price

1011
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: that I should have paid, and I repent of my sin,

1012
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: and I take the gift of your redemption. And I

1013
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: want to be freed by the ransom that you paid

1014
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: for me. Scripture tells us the sincerity of your heart,

1015
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: the sincerity of your repentance, the commitment of you leaving

1016
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: faith in yourself and placing your faith in Jesus. You

1017
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: placing yourself under his lordship, confessing it to the world

1018
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: that you will be saved by the power of Jesus

1019
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: and by the power of his blood and if we

1020
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: can help you in any way, you can email me

1021
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: Rick at Burgessmistries dot com.

1022
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to walk. We did love to help you

1023
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: and your holy name Jesus, we pray Amen. Thank you

1024
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: very much