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Speaker 2: It's time you welcome to the Nerdy Vanica have your

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Speaker 2: host grol Shooter. And it is Wednesday, which means he

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Speaker 2: dear friend Donny meet from joining says, hey, Donny, are

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Speaker 2: you there? Hello?

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Speaker 3: I know you might get this confused with the View,

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Speaker 3: but no profanities here. Sarah Haynes just be letting out

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Speaker 3: the prof The producer was shot this time because I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's ABC. You're not even I I love me.

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Speaker 1: The View, just I'm gonna go on the record. But

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Speaker 2: I was like, girl, I know, if Whoopy said it, or.

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Speaker 2: If Whoopy had said it or Joy, you might have

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Speaker 2: been like, oh, but Sarah, I've known her since she

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Speaker 2: and then she's worked away. She was so talented. They

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Speaker 2: great talent. And then NBC stupidly did not pick her up,

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Speaker 2: and ABC signed her. She went over to GMA and

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Speaker 2: now she's on the View. I can say I've hung

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Speaker 2: out with her a little bit. She's really nice, she's

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Speaker 2: really really cool, and she's not one of those people

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Speaker 2: who suddenly get on TV and dump you. She's not

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Joy like the receptionist?

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Speaker 2: Joy was a good morning and Marri's got fired? Yeah, Joy, Joys?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine how angry should be if you called

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Speaker 2: her Joy's skills as a receptionist? What do you want? So?

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Speaker 1: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: Did not get her the job, but she did work

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Speaker 1: Is that wild?

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Speaker 2: All right, ready, let's sick jump in What time is it?

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Speaker 2: My Friends? And else tea time Big Stories At the

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Speaker 2: top of the show, Meghan markles it's a make or

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Speaker 2: break moment for Meghan as Netflix has bet big on

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Speaker 2: American Riviera Orchard launch. There's lots coming out. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you before anybody else does. So, Meghan's gearing up

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Speaker 2: her highly anticipated launch of her lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard,

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Speaker 2: and according to sources, the success or failure of this

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Speaker 2: Meghan is set to roll out her brand through Netflix's

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Speaker 2: I know where they're going to open them. One is

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Speaker 2: those malls, and within the store they're gonna sell Megan's

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Speaker 2: good idea. It doesn't feel big enough for Megan. For me,

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Speaker 2: I thought should have standalone stores. But I guess she's

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Speaker 1: I mean, you are right though, it is that me

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Speaker 3: One of the ways you can tell is because the

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing, Megan, I don't understand why it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: But the problem is, though that wasn't enough for her.

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Speaker 3: So she went out there and she wanted to do more.

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Speaker 2: Harry, people are always going to make her work harder

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Speaker 2: think you might be onto something, Donnie. A lot of

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Speaker 2: the housewives do this though too. They have these reality

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Speaker 2: Bethanie's the only one that made billions of dollars in

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Speaker 2: that liquor brand that she sold, and she made it work,

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Speaker 2: but everybody else has not quite done it. Ramona had

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I think that Meghan

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Speaker 2: Maybe her jam and her olive oil will be spectacular.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people laughed at Goop when Gowenev started Goop,

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Speaker 2: She could do with the copy of my book the ForWord,

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Speaker 2: answer Meghan, who are you in four words, and then

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Speaker 2: our phole question of the day will Bega Markels American

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Speaker 2: riviera orchard be a smash or a royal follop. It's

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Speaker 2: So in a couple of months we're going to find out. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Donnie Love, what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: Real quick, I hate the name American Riviera Orchard. Kept

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Speaker 3: it an American rivieres enough.

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Speaker 1: I think you're weird anyway, So this all right?

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Speaker 3: Now, we'll start this by saying it is a Rolling

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Speaker 3: Stone expos It's not some you know.

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Speaker 3: Rolling Stone does their work this month. There has to

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Speaker 3: before we go into it. So Liam Payne, he you know,

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Speaker 3: It claims of cheating, there's claims of sexuality crisis and

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Speaker 1: But they're saying that.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously he was engaged to the model Maya Henry,

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Speaker 2: They really dug deep. It's it's a really long story.

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Speaker 2: this fame and cut too short, gone too fast, and

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Speaker 3: Don't they Here's one thing I will say this here,

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Speaker 3: It makes you human, It makes you fluid, It makes

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Speaker 1: Hello, it's a new Reformation campaign.

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Speaker 2: Not come back to the naughty been nicer I'm your

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Whopping?

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Speaker 2: And now it's time for our nicest of the day.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kensington's Palace.

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Speaker 3: there was this whole hoopla that Kate wanted, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it is the eternal Look over there, look over there.

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Speaker 1: That's what's over there.

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Speaker 2: to fail. For a long time, Donnie, I didn't apply

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Speaker 2: for a lot of jobs. I didn't go after some

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Speaker 2: And you know what, Donnie, even if ours are right

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Speaker 2: and they didn't like me and I didn't get that job.

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Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: We're good.

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Speaker 2: Not the end. Hey, that's the end of our show though.

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