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Speaker 1: It's victory.

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Speaker 2: Monday, December thirtyth This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 2: now a guy whose favorite resolution is ten eighty P J. P.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented

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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans, JP Shadrick from the Hyundai Studios.

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Speaker 1: We've got a busy two hours ahead. After a Jaguars win,

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Speaker 1: only the fourth of the year, twenty to thirteen, the

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Speaker 1: final Mac Jones Brian Thomas Junior pacing the offense, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense stopped the presses, got a takeaway and made

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Speaker 1: a stop when it mattered at the end. We'll keep

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Speaker 1: it real as always, fanatics, fan questions, and we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Well. Head coach Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: after the game to the fourth Jaguars victory of the season, Relieved.

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Speaker 4: Found a way to win, Proud of the guys, just

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Speaker 4: so happy for them and coaching staff. The way these

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Speaker 4: guys hang together, they stick together, there's no quit they

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Speaker 4: keep fighting. You know, I keep telling them, you know,

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Speaker 4: you never know when the plays come in your way,

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Speaker 4: and when it does, just just make it and and

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Speaker 4: you saw at the end there Antonio Johnson made the

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Speaker 4: play and and you win the game. So there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of good efforts in this game. Defense created a takeaway,

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Speaker 4: you know, offense was was was effective and good in

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Speaker 4: the red zone today.

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Speaker 5: Just a good team, good team win.

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Speaker 1: There's the head coach. We'll hear more from Doug Peterson today.

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Speaker 1: Coming up a little bit later on the show, we

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Speaker 1: welcome in Hall of Fame left tackle Tony Bisselli and

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. After a Jaguars win,

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hey JP and Pete. Uh I like Doug's comments.

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Speaker 6: Well, once again, we were a average throw from an

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Speaker 6: average quarterback from going either into overtime or losing on

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Speaker 6: a two point conversion. Once again, because we had another

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Speaker 6: either This was not a mental air, just a blown coverage.

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Speaker 6: Aklonquo is running down the sidelines by himself with twenty seconds,

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Speaker 6: thirty seconds left, and if Rudolph makes a good throw,

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Speaker 6: he walks into the end zone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's terrible, just terrible Boks now.

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Speaker 6: And the only reason I bring that up is because

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Speaker 6: when Doug said Antonio Johnson made a great play at

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Speaker 6: the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: He did, but he was in coverage on the one

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Speaker 3: where a con quo just goes straight down on a

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Speaker 7: With him, and the other thing on the one Antonio

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Speaker 7: Johnson made the play on if that's a guy with

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Speaker 7: a rifle arm and can step into that throw, it's

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Speaker 7: probably a touchdown too.

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Speaker 3: Well, not just a rifle arm. How about anticipating and throwing.

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Speaker 5: It before he's there. Yeah, yeah, I mean that wasn't good.

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Speaker 5: It's goodlay. He made a good play. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be overly negative. I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: to do That's not fair.

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Speaker 1: The show saying oh yeah, oh that's great. However they

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Speaker 1: did this this, this, No, My point.

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Speaker 6: Is dodge the bullet, not because we made a play

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Speaker 6: at the end, because because their quarterback was couldn't complete anything.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's wide open, nobody was within ten yards

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Speaker 7: That was a hell not to on how to play

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Speaker 7: the quarterback position from both sides on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: By the way, So JP, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not being negative. It's a win.

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Speaker 6: And I said it this morning, I said it last night,

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Speaker 6: and I said it to you when we talked to

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Speaker 6: the UK people. I am happy for Doug Peterson, his staff,

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Speaker 6: every player, Trent Balke, his whole staff, because those guys

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Speaker 6: work their tails off all year in winning is hard

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Speaker 6: in this league. I am happy for them. Congratulations. Doug's right.

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Speaker 6: They made a play at the end. They controlled most

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Speaker 3: They did a good job.

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Speaker 6: I'm not taking a It just pains me to see

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Speaker 3: Wasn't a hard throw. We are either going into overtime

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Speaker 3: or we lose on a two point conversion. That's all

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Speaker 6: And by the way, and then if you go picture Pete,

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Speaker 6: and if you go big picture, the win doesn't help

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean anything for I'm gonna.

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Speaker 7: Say, it's gonna say it's great for those guys. It's

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Speaker 7: gonna be on their resume. Beat Mason Rudolph in Week

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm happy because you guys

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Speaker 7: Look, everybody tries to win, Tony, but it doesn't mean it.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't mean next picture.

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Speaker 6: For the big picture, for the organization. You could argue

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Speaker 6: that was the worst thing that could happen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because I said this this morning.

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Speaker 6: If you were forget about what the season said Pete,

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Speaker 6: or what the record was this year, just forget about that.

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Speaker 6: If I told you would you rather pick second overall

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Speaker 5: Tell me second?

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Speaker 3: I want to pick second.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So if the games don't impact and there's not

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Speaker 6: gonna be really any carryover because the guy playing quarterback

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Speaker 6: is not starting quarterback next year, you got I mean

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Speaker 6: a bunch of unknowns. The most important thing is is

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Speaker 6: acquiring new assets and better assets for next year.

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Speaker 3: And the way you do that as through the draft.

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Speaker 7: And number two was gonna have value, and number two

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Speaker 7: was gonna have a value. Number number six has no value, right.

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Speaker 5: That? So it look the game meant nothing.

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Speaker 7: It was ugly, It wasn't It was one of the

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Speaker 7: worst things I've watched in a long time. And they

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Speaker 7: won the game. Yipp b I yau, good for them.

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Speaker 7: What did What did matter is some young players played better.

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Speaker 3: You know who besides Brian Thomas, well him.

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Speaker 5: That guy's a star.

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Speaker 7: But I mean there were other things that what I

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Speaker 7: can't figure out and we're gonna go break it all down.

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Speaker 7: Is that's a really, really, really bad offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Where are those rushers now?

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Speaker 3: If you watch, I thought josh heinz Allen had made off.

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Speaker 5: He played his off and he was getting.

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Speaker 3: Held like nobody's business in the first half.

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Speaker 7: And he kept coming underneath on runs and make it pay.

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Speaker 7: He played a violent, physical, good football game.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you that he did.

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Speaker 6: I thought Trayvon had moments where he got pushed, but

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Speaker 6: they had like the third or fourth right tackle in there,

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Speaker 6: and I was hoping he would just dominate him.

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Speaker 3: And he did.

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Speaker 5: He did not.

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Speaker 7: Mason Smith had a couple pushes, got blocked, got blocked

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Speaker 5: He can't get off a block.

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Speaker 6: I thought Mason Smith played very good last week. I

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Speaker 5: Yester year, we got the one sack that was.

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Speaker 3: Not a sack. It was a sack in the books.

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Speaker 6: He was on the like two yards past the line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage and Rudolph, for whatever reason, he was trying

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Speaker 6: to run and he got a hand on him and

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Speaker 6: brought him down before a one yard or two yard loss.

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Speaker 3: For I get that. But let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 3: When you watch that play, did you go wow?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 7: But also there was another play where he pushed the

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Speaker 5: Here here's the problem.

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Speaker 7: I think he's a big, strong, physical kid that they

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Speaker 5: He just needs to have to learn how to use

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Speaker 5: the tricks of the trade. He doesn't know how to

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Speaker 3: He needs more reps.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, it'd been nice if he had gotten

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Speaker 7: maybe by week sixteen or seventeen he would have been

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Speaker 7: a good player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, but listen, beating the beating, the Titans beat. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I hate the tight I hate him.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I just give it that. That's the JV. Titans. I

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Speaker 5: get the Jaguar being the Titans JV. T That's what

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Speaker 3: I agree. But it's better.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for that day, for that three hours or so,

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Speaker 6: it was better than losing. But as soon as you

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Speaker 6: except for the guys in that locker room and the

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Speaker 6: coaches and coach them. That's why I'm happy with them.

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Speaker 6: But in the big picture, does anyone feel better after

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Speaker 6: the win yesterday?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? What? What did what went well? Beside Brian Thomas?

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Speaker 5: I mean you he was good?

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Speaker 1: Not I mean Parker Washings.

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Speaker 5: He made a great catch at the end zone. He

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Speaker 5: got two feet in where's Where's.

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Speaker 3: I thought the protection was good again, Pete.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty good.

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Speaker 7: I thought Anton Harrison did some pretty good things for

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Speaker 7: in the run game even he was pretty physical in

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Speaker 5: But where where's Breton Strange in the passing game?

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Speaker 3: I don't think did he have a target yesterday? Maybe one?

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Speaker 1: I'm looking We've got receiving targets for Brenton Strange. One target,

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Speaker 5: That's it. That shouldn't happen. That should not happen. I

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Speaker 5: don't get that one. I mean, yeah, what.

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Speaker 7: Do you think? We'll look at it. But the offensive

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Speaker 7: line wasn't awful. I thought they were solid. Nothing great.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough matchup in time, I thought.

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Speaker 6: I mean jeffres Simmons and Rondick Uhde, what's his life?

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Speaker 5: They're tough to block, they're big, they're.

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Speaker 3: Big people, physical people.

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Speaker 5: I thought it's problems with big people.

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Speaker 3: But I thought we did fine. I thought I thought

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Speaker 3: Mitch much better this week.

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Speaker 5: He was better this week than he was last The.

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Speaker 6: First time we matched up against him, I thought he

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Speaker 6: was overwhelmed. I thought Mitch did a good job this week.

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Speaker 6: But listen, this might be the best sheriff's playing since

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Speaker 6: he's been in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Why do you go out for like a series shoulder? God,

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Speaker 5: he's always hurt. He's a warrior man.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, he's tough. And I got Pete. I think Brandon's

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Speaker 3: sheriff has played good this year.

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Speaker 5: He's played okay.

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Speaker 3: I think he's played better as the year's going on.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 5: I would agree with you.

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Speaker 7: And there he's played better as the year's gone on,

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Speaker 7: and up until yesterday, morseon play worse as the year

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Speaker 3: And Ezra I think's done a good job.

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Speaker 7: Like you know what they didn't do a good job of,

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Speaker 7: and they haven't done a great job of when they

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Speaker 7: the edge crashers, they don't block him very.

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Speaker 5: Well, did you did you? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: It wasn't like, you know what, wasn't hitting the fan.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a spin.

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Speaker 7: You know, he can get those long runs when he

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Speaker 5: When you say how they do it? What do you what?

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Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like one they need to look at

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Speaker 6: doesn't feel like it's the run game, doesn't feel like

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Speaker 6: Are they gonna go a lot of duo and push

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Speaker 7: Well, there's always there's always you know, you block here,

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Speaker 7: Correct, And the easiest thing to do is block down,

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Speaker 5: But it's essentially playing you know that. It's the angles.

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Speaker 7: But if the angle doesn't get his guy blocked, then

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: If the guy's getting pushed back into the backfield, which happens,

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Speaker 7: So and by the way, Tony, when you great a

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Speaker 5: Do you give them negative or what? I mean?

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Speaker 3: You can't give them anything incomplete?

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Speaker 7: Right, So, but I think I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 7: I think sometimes you just need the mall people.

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Speaker 5: You just need them. And there's never any there's never any.

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Speaker 7: Moment in the entire season or even the course of

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Speaker 5: You know, when you watch the Lions. The Lions do

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Speaker 5: I don't draft them.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I just hit that groove, man, I kind

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Speaker 9: Knew what to expect in those situations, in those plays

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Speaker 8: The communication was great for I had my mindset on

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Speaker 9: And then that second one, man, I was just I

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Speaker 8: You know, quarterback Dbs did a hell of a job

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Speaker 9: End holding their coverages, so that allowed me to sneak

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Speaker 8: So we just put in, you know, to put ourselves

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Speaker 5: Pete well he was playing. I think he played well

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Speaker 7: He plays hard, he plays tough, and I'm with you, Tony,

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Speaker 5: I think that's for him next year.

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Speaker 7: I think that's that's important, to get lighter and get

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Speaker 5: He was the one guy that stood out on defense

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Speaker 7: I thought I thought he was you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: But it was a good, solid football game.

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Speaker 6: I thought the defense did what they needed to do.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, how can you evaluate that it's so

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Speaker 7: hard to defend that that team, that's not it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's not hard to defend that team.

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Speaker 6: I agree with that, but beat in the last two games,

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Speaker 3: Against the Jaguars. They scored six the first time in thirteen.

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Speaker 5: The second time, yeah, they scored. So they scored fifty.

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Speaker 7: They scored a bunch of garbage points against the Colts

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, were they playing flag football with

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Speaker 5: I love Gus Bradley as a guy. I think he's

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Speaker 7: I have nothing, But I think he's in trouble and

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Speaker 7: I think others are in trouble there too.

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Speaker 5: Look, let's be real. You know, the Jaguars play the

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Speaker 7: The Colts haven't won the division since Andrew Luck was there.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we talk, we always point out

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's not a good division this year, Pete.

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Speaker 5: It's awful.

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Speaker 7: If you ranked, if you went through and you took

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Speaker 5: Yes, And the Falcons are better than the Colts.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the Saints and the Panthers better than they're all

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Speaker 7: the same.

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Speaker 3: The Panthers have the same record as week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But again it's it's just a bad division. This This

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Speaker 5: would have been a year to be good in that division, which.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's not a very good

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Speaker 6: division this year. The Texans have all kinds of flaws.

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Speaker 6: They're not very good. They're gonna be one and done

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: So yes, to answer your question, Tony about the defense,

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Speaker 7: they played well for that you know it was you know,

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Speaker 7: for that group they played well against them, and it

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Speaker 7: was and there were some moments where you look, you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, Monteric Brown is a feisty little guy over

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Speaker 7: there on the corner, makes some plays, but you know

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Speaker 7: he's limited what he does, but he plays hard.

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Speaker 3: Would it be let me ask you a question next year,

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Speaker 3: if you had to.

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Speaker 6: Go into the season with Monteric Brown as your number

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Speaker 6: two corner, is that the worst thing?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: The worst thing is not having big guys.

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Speaker 3: That's my point. Like I'm like watching, like if I

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Speaker 3: just if you took the names and numbers off the jerseys,

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Speaker 3: and you watch Monterrey Brown. I think he's a He's

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Speaker 3: a solid corner in this league. He tackles well, he

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Speaker 3: plays hard, he's physical, he's gonna be in the right place.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's a one or a great you know,

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Speaker 6: gonna go get you five picks or not.

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Speaker 3: But he's a good He's a good, solid football player.

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Speaker 7: He also, i mean, think about it, he took the

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Speaker 7: job of a guy that made made a little bit

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Speaker 7: of buckh you know, in free agency. So it's not

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Speaker 7: like he's he's terrible competitive.

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Speaker 3: He's a competitor.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I like that too, is the fact

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Speaker 5: that he does compete.

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Speaker 7: You know, No, you know how I feel about the

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Speaker 7: defensive line, even you know, we always talk about the

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Speaker 7: opfensive line. But like, if you're picking sixth, okay, I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna say, if they were picking third the two quarterbacks, I'll.

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Speaker 6: Ask the question, Pete, you're picking third, would you take

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Speaker 6: Travis Hunter or the tackle at Michigan.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking a d tackle out of Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I think I am too. I'm now that's saying I've

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Speaker 3: watched exactly one game with that guy. This year against USC,

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Speaker 3: where he was very good.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know that guy's been good all year.

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Speaker 5: What you saw at USC, that's what you That's what

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Speaker 5: you get with him. He's a he's an aggressive, push

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Speaker 5: the pocket, tough, physical guy.

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Speaker 7: You put him if if I take over this team

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Speaker 7: next year, if I'm if I was the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 7: or the general manager or the head coach or whoever

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Speaker 7: I took him, I'm playing him next to Mason Smith,

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Speaker 7: who a good defensive line coach will get him to

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Speaker 7: use his hands and become more of a factor in there.

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Speaker 5: Then you have.

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Speaker 7: Slim down Josh Allen, slim down Trayvon Walker, and that's

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Speaker 7: my that's my group.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm also gonna find some speed somewhere off.

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Speaker 7: The edge so I can move Trayvon Walker inside, So

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Speaker 7: my four would be that group, and I and move

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Speaker 7: him around, and then you know, because you're gonna be

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Speaker 7: stuck with Armstead, so you bring him in there and

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Speaker 7: let him do his high, play high, and let somebody

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Speaker 7: block a routine.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen plays a game that's not very nice, Pete, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean he hasn't played very I mean, am I

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Speaker 5: being critical? Am I being cruel? By saying he hasn't

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Speaker 5: played very well.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are being critical, how I you're being accurate.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's had a good year.

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Speaker 5: No, is there something underlying that we don't know?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I'll say I well, earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, it was he's coming off a knee.

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Speaker 1: Given a little time, let's working back in.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be on the team next year because his

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Speaker 3: cap number is so big, you have no choice. We talked,

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Speaker 3: We talked about that.

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Speaker 6: Last time I would listen, I would doctor Eric Arms said, listen,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna play twenty snaps a game at three technique

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Speaker 6: and so so go get work on your bet because

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Speaker 6: this dude has been able to rush the passer in

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Speaker 6: his career in a dominant fashion at times from the

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Speaker 6: three technique position.

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Speaker 5: But he's not even doing that for the three technique

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Speaker 5: when he's playing it.

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Speaker 3: This just telling you, listen, you have nothing else to

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Speaker 3: worry about. Line up in the three technique and go

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Speaker 3: get me six sacks next year.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, the rookie gets out of place

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Speaker 5: and gets blocked every the fifty nine. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna comment.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's overwhelmed.

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Speaker 3: He should not be out there right now.

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Speaker 5: No, and so again. But that's what I would do.

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Speaker 7: My four would be that if you can put that

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Speaker 7: four on the field and walk her now and trim

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Speaker 7: down and get a little quicker, you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 7: be able to rush with four. And if you can

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Speaker 7: rush with four, Monterrek Brown can play corner if you're

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Speaker 7: getting past rushed with four.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I don't think Trayvon needs to slim down.

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Speaker 6: I'm fine with Trayvon in his size. He's a big,

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Speaker 6: powerful guy. He's a power rusher. That's what he's gonna be.

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Speaker 6: If you slim down, he's never gonna be an edge

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Speaker 6: turn the hips, get you know, that's not who he is.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I guess. I guess it's not gonna

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Speaker 5: for him. It would for him.

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Speaker 7: It's okay to be bigger because he's gonna go side.

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Speaker 7: A good team will slide him inside on passing downs more.

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Speaker 3: He's a big, long, physical, get kicking like.

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Speaker 6: You want him to beat the hell out of the

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Speaker 6: tight end and the right tackle and just make their

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Speaker 6: lives miserable.

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Speaker 7: But Tony the problem with he's more like Klayus Campbell

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Speaker 7: than he is.

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Speaker 5: Yes, right, So.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, Pete. If Traymon Walker averages ten sacks a year, which.

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Speaker 5: He's what half? Is he half away from that now?

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Speaker 5: Isn't yeah?

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Speaker 3: Nine half?

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Speaker 6: If he averages ten a year and he's your left

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Speaker 6: end that you move at times to a three technique

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Speaker 6: and sub great, guess what you're gonna resign him.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna beer his career.

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Speaker 5: That he's a good player.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's not, but that, but that's why

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Speaker 7: there's no push in the middle. So those guys kind

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Speaker 7: of get they don't get any help when it comes

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Speaker 7: to that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm with you on Josh and heinz Allen downs

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Speaker 3: a little bit so he can get more of a

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Speaker 3: speedback in on the edge because he has good power too.

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Speaker 6: Like he's a good like there are two good football players,

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Speaker 6: like you don't have to worry like good football players.

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Speaker 7: Okay, here's the other part of that equation now, is

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Speaker 7: we're talking a little bit about fixing the team.

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Speaker 5: What if you took a speed rusher, a possibility like

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Speaker 5: Abdull Carter from Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I'm not against it. I think a lot of that.

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Speaker 6: Is also dependent on how deep are those positions can

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Speaker 6: you get at the top of two A good interior, guy,

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Speaker 6: You got to build the interior that offensive defensive line.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: The deterior of the defensive line is not not good enough,

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Speaker 7: and it hasn't been good enough.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 6: They got run on by a below average offensive line

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Speaker 6: with their backup running back yesterday game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure it did. Sure did. Hey, let's come back.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back in a moment, guys, We'll get

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Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars mauling on offense. Connect j P.

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Speaker 3: Great input on that segment. Thanks for joining in so much.

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Speaker 1: It's glad to be here, guys. Just to lead us

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Speaker 5: He's the point guard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not really. I mean I played the same way

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Speaker 5: each week.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes at the NFL that the chips fall a different way,

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Speaker 7: the results fall a different way, but I stick to

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Speaker 7: the same process and I'm gonna do that again this

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Speaker 7: week so we can get another win.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones Jaguars quarterback, fifteen of twenty two through the air,

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Speaker 1: with Pete Prisco and Tony Biselli, and earlier back to

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Speaker 1: the offensive convererce here that was Mac Jones talking about

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Speaker 1: his preparation each and every week, one more opportunity for

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Speaker 1: him to put something out there for next season. But

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Speaker 1: the conversation earlier was about the offensive line and the

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Speaker 1: run game for the Jaguars and Travis etn yesterday fifteen

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Speaker 1: carries forty nine yards three point three average along of

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Speaker 1: fifteen bigsby eleven for thirty three yards three yards of

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Speaker 1: carry and along of seven in the game, Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Junior had the long rush for the Jaguars on an

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Speaker 1: end to round of eighteen yards. So the run game

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Speaker 1: just inconsistent again yesterday, Guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's been like that for three years. You

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Speaker 3: really would think about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Tony, when you played and I'm going

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Speaker 7: to reference this, there was there were always moments. I'm

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Speaker 7: not talking about the FRED, even before FRED, when you

651
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Speaker 7: weren't a great team yet, but there were always moments

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Speaker 7: when you ran the football.

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Speaker 3: In ninety five we were atrocious and everything bad.

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Speaker 5: Well, there was a bad team.

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Speaker 3: Including running the ball.

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Speaker 6: I mean we won four games just because we were

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Speaker 6: mentally tough, because we got the hell beat out of

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Speaker 6: us by Tom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's bad team. But I'm thinking about going back

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Speaker 5: to ninety six.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six, we did run the ball until late.

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Speaker 5: Second half of the second half of the season.

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Speaker 7: Natron got going, and it was but when he got going,

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Speaker 7: you sat there and you go there, it goes there,

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Speaker 7: it goes there, it goes When was the last time

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Speaker 7: with a Jacksonville team that you could sit back and.

667
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: Go there, it goes there. You know that It just

668
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: you know, six four, three, five, and.

669
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Maybe twenty seventeen a little bit they ran it.

670
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: But if you think about the history of this organization,

671
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: we started sing back half ninety six, start running the

672
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 6: ball good with Natron.

673
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: Ninety seven we went to the zone scheme because.

674
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: Because we was on Denver, saw Denver do it actually?

675
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 6: Really ninety eight when we went to the zone screen

676
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: ninety seven we ran it.

677
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: We were okay, we were middle of the pack run team.

678
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 6: In ninety seven ninety seven playoffs, we got rushed for

679
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty yards against us against Denver.

680
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: They beat the hell out of us. Still they're still.

681
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: Cutting the force. Did Derrek Lavell have one hundred and

682
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: fourth quarter against you?

683
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: They were, They're still running. And then we put the

684
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: zone scheme in inside outside zone that offseason and we

685
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: became ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety nine and even two

686
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: thousand we were, I mean ninety eight ninety nine, I.

687
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 6: Think we were number two in the league. We were

688
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: top five rush teams. Ninety two thousand. We were good.

689
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 6: And then when Jack got here, Remember the Jack Dell

690
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 6: Real teams were built on defense and running the ball

691
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: with fred In and the.

692
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: Cards were physical always they were.

693
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: They were physical uh MJD. And fred ran the ball

694
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 6: and they played great defense with that big, big defense

695
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: the line YEP and then In and then we went

696
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 6: through the doldrums. And then in twenty seventeen where they drafted,

697
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 6: we drafted for Fort Leonard Fort and and we were

698
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 6: a run first team and partly because we didn't have

699
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 6: confidence we could throw it with Blake and they ran

700
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: the ball.

701
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: Their yards for Kerry weren't great, but they played such

702
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: good defense that they would just pound you and.

703
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: Run it, run it, run it run, And he had

704
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: and he'd hit some big runs. Yes, yep, Pittsburgh. He

705
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: was a nineties something, yeah, right along and then in

706
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: twenty two.

707
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: I'm just like, if you go back and look at

708
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 6: this team, the history and when we've made the playoffs,

709
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 6: we've had a good run ting, we've had a run.

710
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: You know, we've run the ball well and had balance

711
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: because you know, I know, Pete, you believe the past

712
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: game opens up the run game.

713
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying you're wrong there coming from the

714
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: other side. If you can control a line of scrimmage

715
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: and run the ball, you're gonna put that defense in

716
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 6: a bind with play action pass and that's we're gonna

717
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 6: get your big plays in the past game. But regardless,

718
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 6: you gotta be all the you gotta control the line scrimage,

719
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 6: you got to run the ball, and that's something we

720
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 6: just haven't done. We were, we were better the back

721
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: half of twenty two.

722
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: We win that nice little run, But if you look

723
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: at the last two years, we have not controlled the

724
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and we've not run the ball effectively.

725
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 5: They averaged four point seven in twenty twenty two.

726
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: We did in four point three and twenty twenty seven.

727
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: They've been over four in like eighteen nineteen twenty and

728
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: twenty one my point.

729
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: But in twenty two the back half is when we

730
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: started running the ball.

731
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 7: Well yeah, and no, I'm a big believer. You throw

732
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 7: the score and you run to win. I've always said

733
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 7: that you have to when you need to run, you

734
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 7: have to be able to run. And you know, running

735
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 7: it helped set up the passing game, but you have

736
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: to be able to throw it when you need to

737
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 7: throw too. So look, I think there's never this team.

738
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 7: It's been a long time since you sat back and said,

739
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 7: there they go.

740
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: They're pounding it. They're pounding, they're pounding it, you know,

741
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: like for team.

742
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: Is the last time that's where you felt that.

743
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 7: Way, right, Like like the Packers traditionally have not been

744
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 7: a pounded team Jacobs, of course, and and they do

745
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 7: it and they can do it, and so I think

746
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 7: they got to so jpt answer your question, how do

747
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: you fix it? They got to get more physical on

748
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 7: the offensive line. But more than that, they got to evaluate,

749
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 7: Like Tony said, what do they want to do as

750
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 7: a run scheme? What what is the what do they

751
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: want to be Tony, how would you describe from an

752
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 7: offensive line and standpoint, how would you describe the Lions

753
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 7: and the Eagles schemes.

754
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 6: Uh, the the Eagles are are big upfront. Obviously, they

755
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 6: got Saquons, a great back, but they're gonna spread you

756
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 6: out and then get you know, more spread you out.

757
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: Less of those tight formations, a lot of shotgun but

758
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: they're they're gonna run inside, outside zone, a little bit

759
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 6: of some.

760
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 3: Gap scheme stuff in there. And they got a great

761
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: back and they're really good up front.

762
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 7: Like when they had Kelsey, he used to pull a

763
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 7: lot and they'd get him out on stuff.

764
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: And you look at the Detroit Lions, they're downhill gap scheme,

765
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 6: a lot of duo. We're getting a bunch of doubles,

766
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 6: and they got two really good backs that are physical

767
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: downhill runners. And then they'll they kind of have good

768
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 6: complimentary football because Jamar Gibbs has the ability also to

769
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 6: get out on some of those toss cracks and get

770
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: outside and really put you in a buying because of

771
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 6: his speed and and the way he's able to finish.

772
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 6: You look at you look at the Green Bay Packers,

773
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 6: they're an inside outside zone scheme. You know before comes

774
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 6: from the McVeigh kind of school of thought. That's how

775
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 6: they really build their offense off of that inside outside

776
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: zone play action pass.

777
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 7: But even that has evolved to where now those teams

778
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 7: are are combos there.

779
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: You know, there's no more where you're just one.

780
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: They You got to be able to do both. You

781
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: got to.

782
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: And here's the other thing.

783
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 7: I think THEO gap, that stuff that demoralizes a defense

784
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 7: when you're getting doubled and getting like you want to.

785
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: Get two doubles, you get singles outside and you're just

786
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: coming downhill and just beating him.

787
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 7: And you could just see him. They're skating to try

788
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 7: and stay in there. You know, they're trying to hold

789
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 7: the point, and it just demoralized. And you don't see

790
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 7: that with Jacksonville.

791
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 5: You just don't.

792
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: No, this is not our it's not our makeup right now.

793
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 5: Okay, aside from a new staff, which is possible, how

794
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 5: do you change that. You got to get bigger, right,

795
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: You got to get stronger.

796
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think you got it younger. I mean,

797
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 6: and I said at the top of the show, I

798
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 6: think Brandon Sheriff's.

799
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: Had a good year.

800
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 6: He's playing good football. In my opinion, especially in the

801
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 6: back half of this year. Is the season's got on

802
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 6: he's gotten better. Miss Morris is not gonna move yet,

803
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 6: but he's a really good solid center, is good getting

804
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: up the next level. He's good on double teams. But

805
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 6: they're both going into the eleventh year. I mean they're

806
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: older guys, and not that you can't have older guys.

807
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 6: I mean you look at the Detroit Lyons. Zeitler's their

808
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 6: right guard, and he's not exactly you know, a spring chet.

809
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 5: He's played great this year.

810
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 6: Yes, so I'm not saying they can't do it. But

811
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 6: I also think it's not just the bodies you have there.

812
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 6: It's the mentality. It's how you coach it.

813
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: It's what you demand of people, your.

814
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: Expectation, And I just don't think that's the makeup of

815
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 6: our team right now.

816
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: You know, you.

817
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 6: Gotta do you set the tone of who you are

818
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 6: in the off season with how you work out, how

819
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 6: you train, how you practice, how.

820
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: You do camp.

821
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: I mean I don't, and I know Doun probably will

822
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 6: disagree with me, and that's fine. You know, because they

823
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 6: talked about that this was a hard, physical camp. I

824
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 6: don't think it was. In my opinion, this was not

825
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 6: a physical camp anytime. If you're telling me it's a

826
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: physical camp, and you're I could give you multiple examples,

827
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 6: but the one that's the top of my head is

828
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 6: that when you practice with another team in the second

829
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 6: day of those practices, you decide to go with no

830
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 6: pads on.

831
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: That's not physical. It's just not as.

832
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: I'm with you, I think they're physical.

833
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: I don't think like you set the tone. So it's

834
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: not just.

835
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: The people you draft and the body style types you get.

836
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 6: And you know, in developing young offensive line, I mean,

837
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 6: we've talked about that quite a bit on the on

838
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 6: the show.

839
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: It's a mentality. It's who you are. It's what you

840
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: demand as an offensive line coach, as a coordinator, as

841
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: a head coach, as an organization. It's like, this is

842
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: who we are.

843
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 7: But you know, going back to one of your points though,

844
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 7: you know, sometimes when a team throws it around and

845
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 7: they're free will flow and you say, okay, well they're

846
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: not going to be a physical team and they're not

847
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 7: going to be they're not that team.

848
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 5: And you go through history you look and you say,

849
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 5: well that's not who they were.

850
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 7: But the identity what is There is no identity, there's

851
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 7: no throw it around identity and drive the ball down

852
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 7: the field identity on this team, you know, play fast

853
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 7: identity on this team.

854
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: What there is no offensive identity at all, zero, And

855
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: that's the problem.

856
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: That's a big problem.

857
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: I tend to agree with your pete.

858
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 6: I think I think you're seeing him throw the ball

859
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 6: down the field more because they have confidence in the protection.

860
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 6: Now early in the season, I don't think the protection

861
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 6: was great, and it's got it's improved through the year.

862
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: So give those guys credits.

863
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 5: And Brian Thomas has gotten better since early in the

864
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: season and he helps.

865
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: But they they like, here's a good question for you.

866
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: Two early in the year compared to early in that

867
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 6: early in the year compared to now, I would have

868
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 6: said that early in the year, the quarterback was being

869
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 6: rushed to make decisions, and now I feel like the

870
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 6: quarterback is leaving clean pockets for no reason.

871
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: Like those are like like if you think like I

872
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: look at.

873
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 6: Like the beginning and the end of the season. Like

874
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 6: if you've asked me the last five to six weeks

875
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 6: of this, say since Detroit, since the Detroit debacle, I

876
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 6: would say since then, and I'd have to go looking

877
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 6: back at every game. But for the most part, the

878
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: feeling I have right now talking to you guys, is

879
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 6: this offensive line is protected well and more times than not,

880
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: the quarterback has sped himself up and left clean pockets

881
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 6: and not hung in there to deliver the ball where

882
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 6: I would have said in the first part of the

883
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 6: season the quarterback could not sit in there with being

884
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 6: rushed because people.

885
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: In his face and he was getting hit.

886
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: Okay, but you've also played in the last three games,

887
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 5: You've played the Titans, the Raiders without Crosby, and the

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00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 5: Titans again. Correct.

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00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Okay, you also played the Texans with two good defensive ends.

890
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: They did nothing.

891
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: That's true.

892
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: You played the Jets, who have a good defensive front,

893
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: they did nothing.

894
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: Titans tackles, the Titans defensive tackles are really good too.

895
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Beat. I'm not saying they're good teams.

896
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 5: But they're not. But again, you're the one who told.

897
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: Me the best pass wrestling duo in the NFL or

898
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: the Texans.

899
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: I did, did I? I didn't say that. I didn't.

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00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: I did not say that.

901
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Okay, someone said it, maybe.

902
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 7: My mouth, but that team stinks with the past rushing pest.

903
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: I didn't say the Raiders, Pete. Would you are Would

904
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Speaker 3: you agree.

905
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 6: Though, that the two ends, Will Anderson and uh Neil.

906
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Hunter are arguably the best duo past rushing.

907
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: In the conversation, yeah, in the conversation, they did absolutely

908
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 5: nothing right.

909
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 7: And and so I'm not arguing with you on mac

910
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 7: Jones leaving clean pockets, by the way, because that's exactly

911
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 7: what he's done. I mean, like, there was a play

912
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 7: on Sunday where he had all day and there was

913
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: nobody in no pressure whatsoever in his face because they

914
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: kind of ran them all by, and he goes running

915
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 7: almost to the line of scrimmage when you all you

916
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 7: need to do is stand there and fire a shot

917
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: into the middle of the field.

918
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: Jones.

919
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 7: He ended up completing the pass, but he made it

920
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 7: a much harder play than it had to be.

921
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what is he doing?

922
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: But again, we got we gotta come back.

923
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: We'll come back.

924
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, We'll finish this thought on the quarterback and what's

925
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: left for him with one game to go in his

926
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Speaker 1: contract and in this regular season, that's all coming up.

927
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Speaker 1: And then in the second hour, at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, fanatics, fan questions, much more. Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: the opening hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Two days left

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Speaker 1: we've uh, we've got a few minutes here to expand

939
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Speaker 1: on this quarterback situation with Mac Jones. One more game

940
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: to go. What is he next year? Is he a

941
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: backup in the league or has he got a chance

942
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: to start somewhere?

943
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: Pete, are you really asking him?

944
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Asking you a question?

945
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

946
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 7: To answer your question, I think he should nestle in

947
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 7: and enjoy the fruits and the and the pay and

948
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 7: everything else of the long term backup in the National

949
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: Football League, because that's what he's gonna be.

950
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 5: That's what he is, and there's nothing wrong with that.

951
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 7: He was drafted too high, but I think he showed

952
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 7: the rest of the NFL that he's a backup quarterback

953
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 7: and that's okay, and he's an okay guy to have

954
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: around as a backup quarterback. But that's what he is.

955
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: Would you bring back here as a back up Pete?

956
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: One of my other options?

957
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 7: And who's the I mean, you know, you don't even

958
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: know what this is. Somebody's going to be the system

959
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 7: is going to be.

960
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's tough to tell.

961
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: I mean, he hasn't been good. I mean, he can't

962
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 5: sugarcoat that.

963
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: He had one hundred and twenty two rating on Sunday.

964
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: Again, fifth best career rating. Pete.

965
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 7: Okay, bubble screen flare pass to ETN But what was

966
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 7: that game?

967
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: Was that?

968
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: Was that not for thirty yards or so on that

969
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: little dump.

970
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Off it might have been, right, yeah, yeah it was.

971
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 6: I mean again another eight I think eighteen on the

972
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 6: shovel pass to uh Brian Thomas Jr.

973
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 7: Right, I mean it's just yeah, there's no do you

974
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: ever look at him when he throws the football and go,

975
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 7: oh he drove that one?

976
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: Did do you drive the ball that? Oh? No?

977
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 7: Even the one that Parker Washington in the back of

978
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 7: the end zone kind of like sailed and floated a

979
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 7: little bit to get there.

980
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I.

981
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 7: Know Tony's biting his tongue because you know, look, I'm

982
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 7: not killing the kid. He's just a backup in the NFL,

983
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 7: and that's okay. He's just he's not a starter.

984
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: And I think that's that's become evident.

985
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: So jpm's timed to we have because I know we

986
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: got a break coming.

987
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you got probably about a minute, Pete.

988
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 6: How many how many teams next year need a quarterback?

989
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 6: Do not have a starting quarterback today?

990
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: Giants? Okay, Jets, maybe good Tennessee.

991
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I guess here's my question. Let's say Tennessee.

992
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 6: Let's say Tennessee ends.

993
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: Up with the number two Overhall Pick. I have no

994
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: idea what they're gonna end up.

995
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 7: Let's just say they do, and they probably will and

996
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 7: they go draft Cam wore right.

997
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 3: Would you bring in like the Vikings?

998
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 6: Did Sam Donold bring in mac Jones that can be

999
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 6: a veteran.

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00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: No, Hey, let's finish that thought when we come back.

1001
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Apparently the answer is no.

1002
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 5: I mean, Sam dark Mac Jones. Their arms aren't close

1003
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Speaker 5: to being the.

1004
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: Same second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: It's Shaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: Hey, congratulations, man. We talked about it before the game.

1007
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: We said, hey, guys.

1008
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 10: In uniform, guys not in uniform, guys that are injured,

1009
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 10: everybody in this locker room, we're gonna take that field

1010
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 10: as one.

1011
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: We did.

1012
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 10: We come off the field as one victorious. Great job.

1013
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 10: Congratulations everybody.

1014
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 9: Man.

1015
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: You're bad winning games, losing games in the NFL.

1016
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 10: You find out it doesn't take a whole lot, just

1017
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 10: takes a couple of plays.

1018
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: We talked about it.

1019
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 10: We were the ones that may plays at the end. Ajay, right,

1020
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 10: we just keep balloting, tails off everybody, all three phases.

1021
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 10: Congrats man, congrats, So hats off, all right, hats off

1022
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 10: to that.

1023
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here.

1024
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: We gotta give one man. We gotta get it ready,

1025
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: one two three.

1026
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: That is head coach Doug Peterson in the locker room

1027
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: after the Jaguars win yesterday in Week seventeen, twenty to

1028
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: thirteen final over the Tennessee Titans. The second hour Jaguars

1029
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game,

1030
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: after the game, and during the game on tentionin xl

1031
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: AM Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The jaguarszel offense did

1032
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: just enough. Mac Jones had two touchdown passes, one to

1033
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, his tenth of the season receiving and

1034
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: Parker Washington had the other and now Brian Thomas Junior

1035
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: fourth in the league in receiving yardage this year.

1036
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 5: Overall.

1037
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, Yes, they had a takeaway. Yes, made the

1038
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: stop in the big moment late to seal the game.

1039
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: The Jags now four and twelve and now fifth and

1040
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft order, and now it's

1041
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: onto Indianapolis for a meaningless football game. The Colts are

1042
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: eliminated from playoff contention with the loss to the Giants yesterday,

1043
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: but the Jaguars look to finish the season with a

1044
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: winning record in the AFC South. Second Hour brought to

1045
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: you by mister Chubby's the food Option tonight the Caesar rap.

1046
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: We had mac and cheese, fried mac and cheese bites,

1047
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: pretzel bites, and some kind of like fried potato with cheese.

1048
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Speaker 1: It was.

1049
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 5: How was the fried mac and cheese bite? Because I

1050
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 5: know you put your fingers in that one. JP.

1051
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: I had a couple they were fantastic.

1052
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 5: Are they good? I've never had those seen once. I

1053
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: have ever eaten the.

1054
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Little triangles, and it's got like macaroni. It's like mac

1055
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: and cheese ball.

1056
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 5: It doesn't sound, it doesn't sound like something that should happen.

1057
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: But I guess it's not bad.

1058
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that's so. That was the option tonight for

1059
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: our production staff getting the work done here at the

1060
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Speaker 1: Miller Electric Center after the Jaguars win yesterday. So did

1061
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Speaker 1: you say.

1062
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: About winning record in a division? You really hang your

1063
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 5: hat on that?

1064
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: What else is there to hang the hat on? Pete?

1065
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a five hundred record or a

1066
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: losing record?

1067
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter, It matters none, It doesn't matter. You're

1068
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: playing out the string. How many guys have their reservations

1069
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: already for Cabo can't cool?

1070
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I said this. I said this

1071
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: earlier today. This might be the fastest football game of

1072
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: the season.

1073
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean it's bad.

1074
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 6: I hate to agree with Pete on this these type

1075
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 6: of subjects, but I tend to agree with them. I honestly, man,

1076
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 6: if I think about it, I could go back the

1077
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 6: year we are four and twelve and ninety five.

1078
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you what our division record is. I

1079
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: didn't care.

1080
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 6: Like it wasn't like, whoo, we're four and twelve, but

1081
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 6: we split in the division, which I think we I

1082
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 6: we did. We were three and three because we beat

1083
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 6: the Steelers, we beat Cleveland. We were four and two

1084
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 6: in the division all games, division games.

1085
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 5: Game you were You carry that over to the next year.

1086
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1087
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 7: When you start pulling stuff up like that, it means

1088
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 7: you had a crappy season.

1089
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: True, that's the truth. Let me tell you when the

1090
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: division games matter.

1091
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 6: I mean they matter during the season if you're good,

1092
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 6: and they matter at the end of the year if

1093
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: it comes down to a tiebreaker. You want to do

1094
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: well in your division so you can win the tiebreaker, right.

1095
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 5: But for a bad team looking back and saying, hey,

1096
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: you could have a winning record in the division, it

1097
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: means nothing zero. A, the team stink in the division

1098
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: and B you stunk.

1099
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Speaker 1: And Doug Peterson said it today in a zoom call.

1100
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: The medis like that means we didn't win enough other games.

1101
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: That's what that means.

1102
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Speaker 3: That's all I mean, that's all it means.

1103
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Speaker 7: But you know, like the Colts were so bad on Sunday,

1104
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 7: and and you know you I haven't watched the tape

1105
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 7: of that game yet.

1106
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Speaker 5: I will, but there's rumblings that they packed that up

1107
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Speaker 5: and went home.

1108
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 3: To give a chance to be in the playoffs.

1109
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 5: It just I mean, Tony Drew.

1110
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: Locke unbelievable, five total touchdowns for him.

1111
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 5: There is hope for back Jones man.

1112
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I will watch the tape.

1113
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 6: When I looked at the I looked at the yard

1114
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 6: and it wasn't like that he threw for a bunch

1115
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 6: of yards. It was like it was and it was

1116
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 6: like an off return for a touchdown, touchdown.

1117
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: It looked like a couple of big plays.

1118
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: They didn't tackle.

1119
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 7: Nobody tackled and and you know, again, playoffs on the line,

1120
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 7: and you do that.

1121
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: It makes no sense. And the Giants the flip side

1122
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: had cost some the chance as a quarterback.

1123
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 6: Maybe Pete is uh is Chris Ballard who's been there

1124
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: since twenty seventeen, is not won the division yet?

1125
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: Are is Ballard and Stiking in trouble?

1126
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 7: I think Ballard could be in trouble. I think Ballort

1127
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 7: could be in trouble. You know, he's got a guy

1128
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 7: in that office, Ed Dodds who a lot of people

1129
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 7: think highly of and the second in command, and so

1130
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 7: maybe they make a change and give it to him.

1131
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 7: But you know, the media loves Chris Ballard, and Chris

1132
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 7: Balard is a good guy. So you know how that works.

1133
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 7: When when the media loves the guy, he's gonna get

1134
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 7: the benefit of the doubt, you know, like the warm

1135
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 7: and fuzzy general manager.

1136
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 5: And Jacksonville to media.

1137
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: From back to Chris Ballard.

1138
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 5: Was always a warm and fuzzy too back in the day,

1139
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 5: wasn't he. I mean, think about some of these guys.

1140
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: So you think Ballard's in trouble, I think he can be,

1141
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 5: I mean rightfully.

1142
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 7: So, I mean you've had you've had since twenty seventeen

1143
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 7: to fix it and you haven't.

1144
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: That's a long time.

1145
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Yes.

1146
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: And how many coaches as he had?

1147
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: Three?

1148
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 5: You don't get three.

1149
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: Usually, well, I maybe three if you count Jeff Saturday,

1150
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: Well he had Frank Reich.

1151
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 5: Isn't there one when they're one? Didn't he have one?

1152
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1153
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 5: No? I don't think so let me look, I'm gonna look.

1154
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, to answer your question.

1155
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: We Pogano was last year was seventeen and then Reich

1156
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two, and then Saturday and twenty two

1157
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: and then stuff.

1158
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: Pegana wasn't his guy.

1159
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 6: He said three of his guys, right, three of his guys, really,

1160
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 6: two of his guys because Saturday was game right when

1161
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 6: they fired, when they fired Reich and said, Jeff Saturday's

1162
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 6: intern coach.

1163
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 3: It really he said two people.

1164
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 7: Too, which but he's he's been there for three coaches.

1165
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 7: He's been there for four actually, right, And and I mean.

1166
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 5: That roster. You look at it.

1167
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 7: Do you ever look at their roster and go wow? No, No,

1168
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 7: I think he's in trouble.

1169
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: And the one I don't understand is drafting.

1170
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 6: Drafting Anthony Richardson in the first round last year, I

1171
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 6: just don't understand that.

1172
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 5: I mean, in fairness Anthony Richardson, yes, he wasn't ready,

1173
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 5: but in fairness to him, it's not like Joe Flaccoo

1174
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 5: in there lit it up the last couple of I.

1175
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: Mean, at any point watching. I mean, the kid is

1176
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: a phenomenal athlete that can do amazing.

1177
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 5: Things, and he can't pass.

1178
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 3: He could not stay in.

1179
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 6: The field at Florida, and he was wildly inaccurate at Florida.

1180
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 6: He's come to the NFL he cannot stay in the field,

1181
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 6: and he is wildly inaccurate.

1182
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not.

1183
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 6: I just didn't understand drafting him in the first round.

1184
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 6: He's a project, right, But you.

1185
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: Get in the second round in the first second and

1186
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 3: like say, hey, we're gonna put him on the bench

1187
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 3: for three years and hope he can learn to play quarterback.

1188
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 5: The right way, like Jalen Milroe. If you picked him

1189
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 5: from Alabama, that's right.

1190
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 6: If you're gonna pick that kid from Alabama, you park

1191
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 6: him on the bench for two to three years behind

1192
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 6: a veteran.

1193
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: Say you're not playing at all. I don't care if

1194
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: we stink you're not playing.

1195
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 7: Or if he stinks in practice and you make him

1196
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 7: a tight end because he runs fourth through something.

1197
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1198
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: My point is, I like, so Ballard's made some picks.

1199
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 6: I don't understand.

1200
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think yes. If you look at the body

1201
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 7: of work, what are their record JP, you have it

1202
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 7: right there. What are the records over the course of

1203
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 7: the last since twenty seventeen.

1204
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Saturday year, the pack five right around five hundred all right,

1205
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen they were four and twelve and that was

1206
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Pagano's last year.

1207
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 6: Year Pegana got fired, So that's really Ballard's Ballard just

1208
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 6: got hired, right, Take seventeen out.

1209
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Go to eight, twenty eighteen, ten and six, lost in

1210
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: the divisional round twenty nineteen, seven and nine, twenty twenty

1211
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: eleven and five, lost the wild card game twenty twenty one,

1212
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: nine and eight, twenty twenty two, four and twelve, twenty

1213
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty three, nine and eight, twenty twenty four, seven and nine.

1214
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: So you are about five hundred.

1215
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: They're in five hundred club hundred.

1216
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, five hundred, and they haven't won a playoff game

1217
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 5: right under that them.

1218
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: They've lost both of that. They haven't won a playoff

1219
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: game since uh since the Super Bowl. They've lost every

1220
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: playoff game. And I take that back, Oh won a

1221
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: playoffs right, Andrew Polers.

1222
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 5: But but the bottom line is they should be in trouble.

1223
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: You know how this league is. Guys get comfortable with

1224
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 5: guys and they keep them around.

1225
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't think change Dyke should be wink wink.

1226
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Why he always laughs so hard.

1227
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: Because I love seeing face.

1228
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, so, what do you think that makes you

1229
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: laugh like crazy?

1230
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 5: You say things.

1231
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 6: Without saying I said, my face said nothing there I

1232
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 6: was laughing.

1233
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: His poker face over me.

1234
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: Listen, he's wink winking is because the big question, and

1235
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: let's just call it what it is. I'm not going

1236
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: to weigh in one way or another, but all the

1237
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: fans listening to us right now want to know what

1238
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: is going to happen the Monday after the Gold Game

1239
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: is shot.

1240
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 5: They don't want to happen. They want to see it happen.

1241
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 5: They put a banner, they paid to put a banner

1242
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 5: up on a paranorm. Fair want to happen.

1243
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: My point, they want change.

1244
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 5: And so well, here's how.

1245
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 7: You know they want change, Tony, the fifteen thousand people

1246
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 7: who were actually sitting in the seats.

1247
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: That's how you know they want change.

1248
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 7: That If I'm shot con and I'm looking at that,

1249
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 7: and I'm looking at that and I say, wow, this

1250
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 7: is bad. This is really bad. The interest isn't there

1251
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 7: at all. There's been some bad Jaguar teams late in

1252
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 7: the season where they haven't had crowds like that. And

1253
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 7: I know it was raining, and god knows, I probably

1254
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 7: wouldn't have gone sat through that if I was a

1255
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 7: Jaguar season ticket older.

1256
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: But come on, that's.

1257
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 7: Gotta be that's gotta be a slap in the face

1258
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 7: to the organization to wake up. I mean something has

1259
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 7: to be done. And you understand why the fans under

1260
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 7: are angry about it. They have a right to be

1261
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 7: angry about it.

1262
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: The fans have every right. They paid their hard earned money.

1263
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 5: What they've sent their message. Their message has been.

1264
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 6: Sent, agreed, Pete, I agree with you, and and the

1265
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: fans have We have great fans. They have every right

1266
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 6: to be loud and share their opinion and be mad

1267
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 6: and angry like all rightfully. So now does that mean

1268
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 6: that there's going to be changed. Just because you want

1269
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 6: something doesn't mean you always get it well.

1270
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 7: And I think that Jodd to operate like if there

1271
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 7: is going to be changes, he wanted to do it

1272
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 7: right away?

1273
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 5: Is he one to wait? Is he want to you know?

1274
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 7: Let I mean personally, if as if you were a

1275
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 7: fan out there, you want that done as soon as

1276
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 7: possible to can get on with it. If you're going

1277
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 7: to do it, do it, don't wait, don't hesitate, do it.

1278
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 7: Don't come back a week from later and say, well

1279
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 7: we made a decision, now do it right away and

1280
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 7: get on with it. Whether you're going to fire, fire

1281
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 7: the coach or that. Whatever you're going to do, keep

1282
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 7: them whatever, just.

1283
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 5: Say it, just do it. The uncertainty, I think is

1284
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: what's driving people in town crazy.

1285
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's because they've been out of it

1286
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: for so long. In this season, it's just been a

1287
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: slow grind to the end, and that's been hanging in

1288
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: the air the whole time.

1289
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 5: Jim, we just went through.

1290
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 7: We just went through the Colts records is twenty and seventeen.

1291
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 7: If you did it the same way, here, go through

1292
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 7: that one and then you look at the the proof is.

1293
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: In the pudding.

1294
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that team we were ten and six.

1295
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Correct and division champs, so yep, that's right, and lost

1296
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: in the conference championship game twenty eighteen, five and eleven,

1297
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, ten, six and ten, twenty twenty one and fifteen,

1298
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: and they ran off Moron after that. It's worse twenty

1299
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty one, three and fourteen. Of course, the irban Meyer

1300
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: year and Bebel was the Interium twenty twenty two, nine

1301
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: and eight rallied in December and then won a wild

1302
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: card game. Twenty twenty three nine and eight started eight

1303
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: and three, and then this year four and twelve.

1304
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 5: It's it's worse. It's worse. That body of work is worse.

1305
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I just look, I'm not sitting here saying

1306
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 7: this guy's to be fired of that guy should be fired.

1307
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: But if you put the work up and you just

1308
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 7: say here, Sean, take a peek. Now, take a look

1309
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 7: at these teams, and take a look at those teams,

1310
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 7: it's kind of slaps you in the face. And then

1311
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 7: look at your crowd from Sunday.

1312
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's money, you know, concessions and parking

1313
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 5: and money. That's money that's out the window. It's gone.

1314
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 5: It's never coming back. It's gone. It flew away because

1315
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 5: your team is bad. It's gone. There's no that money

1316
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 5: will never be made up.

1317
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 6: You said something, I want to I want to make

1318
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 6: sure I understand what you're saying. You think you think

1319
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: it's it's the unknown that's driving the fans.

1320
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 5: Crazy, Well, no, I just look at that. I don't

1321
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 5: think they want they want the known. They want they

1322
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 5: we know what they want. They want it, they want

1323
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 5: them God.

1324
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 6: Based on my ex feed and what is said to

1325
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 6: me consistently in the community, I think it's a resounding,

1326
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 6: you know, unanimous voice that want to change. And so

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's the unknown that is driving people crazy.

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 6: I think it's the fact that we are had the

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Speaker 6: season we had. I think it also compounds over what

1330
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 6: you just read through JP, and I think people are like,

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 6: come on, this is ridiculous. And that's that's the I'm

1332
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 6: not I'm not weighing in and giving my opinion. That's

1333
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 6: what I hear from the fans. That's why I disagree

1334
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 6: with you, Pete. I don't think it's the unknown. I

1335
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: think it's the frustration.

1336
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 7: Okay, yes, you're right, they're frustrated, they're angry, and look,

1337
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 7: I'm not sitting here and I'm gonna because it's not

1338
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 7: my decision to make and it's not me to push.

1339
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 5: Somebody to do it. But if I'll be honest with you,

1340
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 5: if I was the owner of that team, put me

1341
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 5: in as the owner of that team.

1342
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: You can't afford it, No, no, I can't.

1343
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna say I want that million dollar part

1344
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 7: that billion dollar lottery.

1345
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 5: But okay, say I'm a guy that made the bumpers. Okay,

1346
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 5: I've made bumpers. I'm the bumper maker.

1347
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh do I trust those bumpers?

1348
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1349
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the bumper maker, so I made bumpers. What

1350
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm doing, Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you.

1351
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 7: I'm installing somebody at any VP executive vice president of

1352
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 7: football operations level. Then underneath, I'm having a new general

1353
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 7: manager who is going to be my football guy, and

1354
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 7: he's going to hire his coach. That's what I would do,

1355
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 7: not based on anything other than proof is in the pudding.

1356
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 7: And I have a quarterback who's being paid two hundred

1357
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 7: and fifty million dollars a quarter of a billion dollars,

1358
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 7: and that job of that those three men right there,

1359
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 7: their sole job is to make that guy.

1360
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 5: Like the Lions made Jared Off, turn.

1361
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 7: Him around, make him a star, make him a guy

1362
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 7: you can go to.

1363
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 5: Super Bowls with, build it around him. That's what they

1364
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: need to do.

1365
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: Is the one voice in that scenario at the top,

1366
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: the one that talks to the owner. Only it reports

1367
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: directly to the owner, the VP.

1368
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the VP has to report to the owner.

1369
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 7: And and there's a lot and talking to people more

1370
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 7: and more I talk to the GGM as I do

1371
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 7: talk to There's so much crap that goes on above.

1372
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: You that you probably can't focus on the football stuff

1373
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 5: below you enough. And I think that's where the misses are.

1374
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 7: I think we in this league, and it's not just

1375
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 7: in this organization. In this league, you need that guy

1376
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 7: to handle This guy didn't get enough tickets. This guy's

1377
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 7: you know, was out too late and got a citation

1378
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 7: that we want nobody to find out, you know, the

1379
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 7: business side of things dealing with this, this part of

1380
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 7: the company. Then this guy handles all the football and

1381
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 7: he he's a just a football grunt. He hires good scouts,

1382
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 7: he believes in him, He listens to him, he wants

1383
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 7: to hear their debate. He doesn't get stand offish and

1384
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 7: upset when they come back at him and say, I

1385
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 7: don't agree with you what he does.

1386
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 5: When they don't.

1387
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 7: Agree with him, he goes back and he watches more tape,

1388
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 7: and he comes back and go, you know you're right,

1389
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 7: you jarred my memory, you jarred my mind.

1390
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 5: I believe in that. Now I'm gonna go back and

1391
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: even watch more tape on him. That's what the organization

1392
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 5: should be.

1393
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 7: And you hire a coach you can work with and

1394
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 7: not have egos get in.

1395
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: The way of any of it. Eventually it will but

1396
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 5: at the start it can't. It can't have egos getting

1397
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 5: in the way of it.

1398
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: There you have it. We will call that keeping it

1399
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: real for the day.

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Speaker 5: I build bumpers. I just build all the bumpers. I'm

1401
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 5: the bumper guy.

1402
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: I ain't driving a car with your bumpers on it.

1403
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: No chance either would I. By the way, way, oh walk.

1404
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: Thanks's keeping it Real presented by Pete's Bumper Company. We're

1405
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: back in a moment, and we'll get fanatics fan questions

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,880
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Speaker 3: I know there were some mistakes made, you know, in game.

1409
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: There were mistakes made by by coaches in game. You know,

1410
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: so everybody has a hand in that, and those are things.

1411
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 4: That we can you know, learn from and and fix

1412
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: moving forward.

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: I think, just you know, from my standpoint as the head.

1414
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: Coach, I think too, you got to keep educating your players.

1415
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: You got to keep talking to your players. You got

1416
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: to in the offseason, you got.

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: To put them in these situations, you got to put

1418
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: them in different scenarios throughout training camp, and and really

1419
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 4: you know, teach them and understand that everything that we

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 4: do matters.

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: I think yesterday is a great example.

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: Of that, I said Coach Doug Peterson asked why the

1423
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: pendulum swung the long way the last season and a half,

1424
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: and part of his answer there the rest of it

1425
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: At Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Welcome back, It's

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Rosselli. After a Jaguars win yesterday over

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Jags now four and twelve and time

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Speaker 1: Lake City Jag Do you think Mac Jones listened to

1435
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: the show last week? From what I saw, had a

1436
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: much better day and it didn't appear that he was

1437
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: leaving too many clean pockets. Didn't we go through this earlier?

1438
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: I don't know what that guy was watching.

1439
01:08:54,520 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Move on, next question, Okay, next question, Kicks Fan questions

1440
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: off to a rousing start at Biscuit Baker Floor on

1441
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, Joe Burrow asked his old lineman of playing

1442
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: their position is fun and got an interesting answer. Was

1443
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: playing fun for Tony?

1444
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 3: Playing offensive lines hard. It's a tough position.

1445
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 6: It's unforgiving because unfortunately you're judged a lot of times

1446
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 6: on not your success, but your your mistakes. So it's

1447
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 6: not and it's it's a grind in practice. It's a

1448
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 6: hard position to play. But the output and the result

1449
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 6: when you win, there's not many better feelings, Like it's

1450
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 6: a lot of fun. And when you're dominating a game

1451
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 6: and you're dominating an individual and you can control what

1452
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 6: that guy does or doesn't do, there's not many more

1453
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 6: things that are more fun than that, like just controlling

1454
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 6: the game and just moving the ball of wa watching

1455
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 6: Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith, I mean James Stewart Matron means

1456
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: like running by you and you're like, that.

1457
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: Is so much fun.

1458
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 6: Now, the process in the middle of it, it's stressful.

1459
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 6: It's not always like whoo, this is like playing golf

1460
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 6: or something.

1461
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: But I've yet to find a feeling in.

1462
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: My life.

1463
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 6: Of joy, excitement, competitiveness, like just adrenaline.

1464
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 3: Then dominating an individual and winning a football.

1465
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 6: Game and knowing that you if nobody else knows the

1466
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 6: other five, the other four guys in the offensive line,

1467
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 6: that entire offense knows, that was the five guys up

1468
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 6: front that got it done for us. Like there's just

1469
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 6: not a better feeling, isn't that?

1470
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 7: But it is a thankless It really is a thankless

1471
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 7: job because you can win, like you always say, you

1472
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 7: can win every battle and lose one and and it

1473
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 7: stands out and could cause a sack fumble, and then

1474
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 7: everybody plays you, and it's it's it's it's such a

1475
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 7: hard position to play because you gotta be you're waiting.

1476
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 5: For this fast athletic guy.

1477
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 7: To come at you while you're trying to keep him

1478
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 7: from going around you or through you. I mean, it's

1479
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 7: brutal and it's thankless, and it's tough, and it's the

1480
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 7: hardest job.

1481
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 5: The master I think in the.

1482
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 7: NFL, and and there's it's so hard to find him.

1483
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 5: So I usually line stick.

1484
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 6: Like I think back on my career from SC through

1485
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 6: the Jaguars, there were many a time I played a

1486
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 6: game and like Pete said, I have one or two

1487
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 6: bad plays would win the game. I'd be excited we won,

1488
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 6: it was great. I would lay in bed and all I.

1489
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 3: Could think about was the two plays. That's not fun.

1490
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 7: The winning, if anything, is never That feeling of winning

1491
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 7: at anything is never as bad as the losing feeling.

1492
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 7: The music feeling is much worse than the winning feeling

1493
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 7: is good.

1494
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 3: Like I probably hated losing more than I loved winning.

1495
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: I hated losing.

1496
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 7: Well, you grew You grew up in a competitive environment,

1497
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 7: like like I did. I mean, we competed over who

1498
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 7: changed the channel, right, you know, so you grow up

1499
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 7: competing that way.

1500
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Speaker 5: It's different.

1501
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like, yeah, I love what I did. I

1502
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: miss it. I mean, Pete knows this.

1503
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 6: We've talked about this, Like I still go smell the

1504
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 6: grass before the game, and like that feeling of what

1505
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 6: like the thought of the anxiety and the nerves of

1506
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 6: going out in a big game and knowing like it's

1507
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 6: just like I missed that, and the like walking off

1508
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 6: after you've dominated somebody and you win, Oh my gosh,

1509
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 6: there's like the feeling is like tremendous because you because

1510
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 6: this is the other thing about this position, not just what.

1511
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: You do it's what you do as a group. Like

1512
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: it is like the ultimate team, Football's ultimate team sport,

1513
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: and offensive line is like the ultimate team position because

1514
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: you're nobody.

1515
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 5: Yeah right, nobody else does what they do. If you

1516
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 5: don't do what.

1517
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 6: You do, everyone's dependent on us, right, And I just

1518
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 6: and so yeah, but it's all fun practice. Like you

1519
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 6: talk about picking a position, that is the worst position

1520
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 6: to practice.

1521
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 3: Non demand kind it's awful. Offensive line, it's awful, like

1522
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 3: the drills. You're it's like torture.

1523
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: You're just hitting each other all day long like that

1524
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: and JP, Yeah, but you know what I mean, Yeah,

1525
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: it's always fash.

1526
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 6: If they gave me a pill right now that can

1527
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 6: reverse like the injuries and and just said, listen, this

1528
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 6: might take a couple of years off your life.

1529
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: But you're gonna be able to go play one more season.

1530
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: Sign me up. I'm him.

1531
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's poor.

1532
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 3: There's nothing better.

1533
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 6: I love the game before and that's why I mean,

1534
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 6: I love the organization, I love the game. I love

1535
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 6: like so I guess with the question back to the

1536
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 6: question is it fun. I don't know if it's fun

1537
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 6: or not, but do I love it absolutely?

1538
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: By the way, Pete, did you notice that? And I

1539
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: just noticed this. When we have the two shot of

1540
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: you and Tony up there, he moved his bust behind

1541
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: him to hip fit the shot. This week it was

1542
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: further left or not it was on an angle, it

1543
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: was further left. It was further left.

1544
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: I have not touched that bust in a year. It

1545
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 3: has been the same position for one year.

1546
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 5: It has not been taught that you've moved a camera

1547
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 5: or your desk.

1548
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's much more prominently featured than it was a week.

1549
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: Correct. Correct, watch the tape if.

1550
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: You watch it. And by the way, what is that

1551
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 5: like an imitation of the one that can'ton?

1552
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: Do?

1553
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 5: They do give you a second one? They give you

1554
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 5: a second one.

1555
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 6: So the one in Canton is bronze, and this is

1556
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 6: the heart the clay that they harden. So they so

1557
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 6: they make the originals the bronze that stays in the

1558
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 6: in the UH obviously in the.

1559
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, in the UH, in the bust room. Uh,

1560
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 3: this is the exact same looks the same, same exact bust,

1561
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: just different. Uh. It's not finished with bronze. It's just

1562
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: the clay, hard clay. You know.

1563
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 5: One thing I not not pointing out yours.

1564
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 7: But those busts usually don't look like the gods.

1565
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 3: Mine like it doesn't.

1566
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm obviously a lot skinnier aged because the

1567
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 6: way they.

1568
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 3: Do it, which I love.

1569
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 6: They asked you what picture, which version of you from

1570
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 6: what era when you played? Do they want the bust up?

1571
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 6: So I picked I think it was like year three.

1572
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 6: I think there's a picture they gave me, and I

1573
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 6: picked one.

1574
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 5: You know, I did something that I told you that.

1575
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 7: I think I told you I did the best Italians

1576
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 7: of all time, and they wanted me to get a

1577
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 7: picture and it was me and you standing there at

1578
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 7: the bus.

1579
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 5: Remember those pictures you took. We were both larger at

1580
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 5: that time.

1581
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, good, good segue before we're gonna break,

1582
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 6: And we didn't answer for many questions. Maybe we should

1583
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 6: come back and answer more questions next segment. But whatever,

1584
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 6: Freddie t uh Pete finalists again.

1585
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 5: He has a chance.

1586
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, only running back as a finalist.

1587
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 3: I think he has a real chance. He deserves to

1588
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame. And I was talking

1589
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: to someone, Pete, I love your take on this because

1590
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 3: Eli Manning's up for the Hall of Fame, obviously arguably

1591
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: one of the greatest playoff Super Bowl quarterbacks ever.

1592
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 6: And I'm not like I don't I don't weigh in

1593
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 6: on whether guys I think guys should be in or not.

1594
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 6: It's not my position. Eli Manning amazing player.

1595
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: But like the big knock against Fred has always been

1596
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 3: only one Pro Bowl? Was never all pro blah blah

1597
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. How many all Pro teams was

1598
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,440
Speaker 3: Eli Manning on it?

1599
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: Le'd be zero?

1600
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 7: Right, But Fred's different because and that's even worse for

1601
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 7: Eli Manning because he played in New York.

1602
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 11: But my pet my point is, Pete is if if

1603
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 11: Eli Manning and everyone I've talked to believes that Eli

1604
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 11: Manning will be in the Hall of Fame, whether it's

1605
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 11: the first ballot or not, I have no idea.

1606
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with you, Eli Manning's going

1607
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: to be.

1608
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 6: In the Hall of Fame, right, But don't tell me

1609
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 6: Fred Taylor is not a Hall of Fame player, because

1610
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 6: if Pro Bowls are all pros selections, you have to

1611
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 6: look at the market, Go turn on the tape, go

1612
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 6: look at the yards with carry, go actually study his career.

1613
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 3: Don't tell me his touchdowns are low.

1614
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 6: Why because Tom Coughlin took him out on the goal line.

1615
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 6: He had sixteen touchdowns when he was our only back

1616
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 6: as a rookie. Because James Stewart got hurt. If Fred Taylor,

1617
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 6: who did all the work to get us down there,

1618
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 6: what had been kept in But what happened is when

1619
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 6: James came back, James was our short yard is cool lineback?

1620
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: So FREDI James had five in one game, five against Philly, Right.

1621
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 5: I mean, here's the thing, Fred, this is the best chance.

1622
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 7: I think that of all the times Fresben up for

1623
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 7: him to get in the class isn't great. And don't

1624
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 7: get me wrong, I think he should be in automatically.

1625
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 5: You know that.

1626
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 7: You know how I feel about him. But this class

1627
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 7: isn't isn't great. So I think he has a real shot.

1628
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: And by the way that I.

1629
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: Disagree, I agree with you. He has a real shot.

1630
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 3: I think he has a great chance to get in.

1631
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: I always I always laugh when people say this is

1632
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 3: not a great class, Like what do you mean not

1633
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: big names?

1634
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 5: Like you're telling me that big games. But for example, okay,

1635
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 5: Suggs great, Okay, there's three sun devils. By the way,

1636
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 5: on that on that finalist list.

1637
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 7: But as great as he was, he wasn't as good

1638
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 7: at his position as Fred Taylor wasn't his.

1639
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 3: I would agree with you.

1640
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 5: Right, That's that's all I judge him.

1641
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 6: But Threll Suggs played in Baltimore all time defenses, you know,

1642
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 6: I mean not he wasn't on the early great deal.

1643
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: But the Ravens always have good defenses. He was part

1644
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: of it. Defensive Rookie of the Year, defensive Player of

1645
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: the year, dominant defensive end.

1646
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 7: The res each other will eat each other up, so

1647
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 7: they're not only one of those will go in. I

1648
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 7: don't know how he didn't get I don't know how

1649
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 7: he didn't get in last year. He should win the game, right,

1650
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 7: he should have been in right away.

1651
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 5: But he'll get it. He'll be one of them. Then

1652
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 5: you got to look at like, what do you do

1653
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 5: with Keikley.

1654
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: Short shorter career, right, yeah, but.

1655
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 5: But Tony had a short career and he got and

1656
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 5: if you're great, you're great. Willis Well doesn't have to wait.

1657
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 3: I hope Luke doesn't have to be a finalist six times.

1658
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 7: No, we know how that game plays out, but I

1659
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 7: think this is a great chance for Fred and Fred Taylor.

1660
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 6: Listen, I'm just gonna say it, and I could say

1661
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 6: he's a Hall of Famer.

1662
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 5: I mean, he is, no doubt. I wrote a nice

1663
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 5: letter to you know, a bunch of voters that last year,

1664
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 5: and I sent it back out to him. They that

1665
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 5: that I think, don't know how great he was with

1666
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 5: all the stats and data and everything else. But more

1667
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 5: than that, go talk to the players and go watch

1668
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 5: the get tape. That's all you need to do.

1669
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: And I'll give you more.

1670
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 6: Go talk to the coaches, called Bill Cower who had

1671
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 6: to play him twice a year, and ask Bill Cower

1672
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 6: what he thought about Fred Taylor.

1673
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: Go call Tony Dungee and ask him what he thought

1674
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 3: about Fred Taylor.

1675
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're right.

1676
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 7: And that's like, I'll give you a Tiki Barber was

1677
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 7: in that room. They were against each other for a while,

1678
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 7: and the New York Block people were always, oh, Tiki

1679
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 7: Tiki over Fred Taylor. I go, really go deviately asked

1680
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 7: Tom Coughlin who he thought was better, not the slight Tiky.

1681
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 5: But if you asked Tom, it's not even come on.

1682
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: Give me a break, by the way, and final thought

1683
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: on this, we got to take a time out. The

1684
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: only two players above Fred Taylor in career yardage not

1685
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: in the Hall yet Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson, and

1686
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: they'll be eligible soon so the time.

1687
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 7: Peterson will be in automatically and Frank Gorer will get in.

1688
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 5: But Fred Taylor was a better back than Frank.

1689
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 6: Here's me listen. I'll taking nothing from Frank Gore at all.

1690
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 6: Amazing career, what he did amazing. If you asked thirty

1691
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 6: two GMS, if you had to choose one back over

1692
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 6: a five year period to be your belle cow back,

1693
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,919
Speaker 6: Frank Gore or Fred.

1694
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: Taylor, who are you taking to take Fred Taylor? I

1695
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 3: think they all take Fred Taylor.

1696
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 6: And that's not a slide against Frank Gore. Frank Gore did.

1697
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 6: He's one of the all time great players in this league.

1698
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 6: And I loved how he played the game, his physicality,

1699
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 6: He is a grinder, he was awesome. Nothing against him.

1700
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 6: I'm just making a pitch for my good friend and

1701
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 6: teammate who deserves being the damn Hall of Fame. And

1702
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 6: he is a He is a heck of a player.

1703
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 6: He did things I've never seen on the football field before,

1704
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 6: Like it's unreal at two hundred and thirty pounds, running

1705
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 6: four two nine and making cuts in the line of

1706
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 6: scrimmage that had no business being made by a man

1707
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 6: that size.

1708
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 3: Give me a break. The guy is amazing, and I

1709
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: hope he's there, and I hope more than I mean.

1710
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: I don't want to say more than anything.

1711
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 6: I got a lot of hopes, but right at the

1712
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 6: top of the list is that next August, the first

1713
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 6: weekend in August, then I'll be celebrating Fred Taylor because

1714
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 6: he goes into the Hall of Fame.

1715
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 3: That's my home me too.

1716
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: Let's come back, guys, we got to go around the NFL.

1717
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1722
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: The Second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings JP Shadrick

1723
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli. After Jags win Week seventeen, four

1724
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: and twelve, record on to Indianapolis, the Jaguars and the

1725
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Colts this coming Sunday at one o'clock. That's what happens

1726
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: when both teams are out of the race. And last

1727
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: week at the season, the scheduling puts the Jaguars early

1728
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock Sunday and get him out of the way.

1729
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and a lengthy

1730
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: week seventeen. It started on Christmas Day Wednesday in Pittsburgh,

1731
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: where the Chiefs knocked off the Steelers twenty nine to ten.

1732
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson didn't look great that day. Travis Kelce got

1733
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: his touchdown to surpassed Tony Gonzalez, and the Chiefs just

1734
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 1: keep on rolling. They are the number one seed in

1735
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: the AFC pete.

1736
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 7: And you know what, they're getting right at the right time.

1737
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 7: I mean, they get hollywod with brown back.

1738
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: He helps open up Worthy, Worthy helps open up the

1739
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 5: other guys, Kelsey and Hopkins because they're not guys we

1740
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 5: can run. And Toney moving from left guard to left

1741
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 5: tackle has been big for them. And so I think

1742
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 5: they're getting right at.

1743
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 7: The right time. They're gonna rest guys this week. Here's

1744
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 7: the other thing, though, Tony, you know they don't want

1745
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow in the in the Bengals in the playoffs,

1746
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 7: so if they if the Broncos win, the Broncos get in,

1747
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 7: So they're resting guys anyways.

1748
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 6: They're gonna rest in anyways, I think they'll go give

1749
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 6: a great effort. I still think they can beat the

1750
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 6: Broncos with Carson Wentz just because I agree. I agree,

1751
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 6: you only can rest so many guys. You only have,

1752
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 6: you know, fifty three the roster. So you know we're

1753
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 6: gonna have a lot of starters out there now. Mahomes

1754
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 6: and Kelsey and some of those guys obviously gonna.

1755
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 5: Play because he's been hurt to check out, but probably

1756
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 5: won't play. But yeah, you're right. You gotta play guys.

1757
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 3: You gotta play guys.

1758
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 6: And I mean, listen, AFC goes through Kansas City. They're

1759
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 6: the best team, and I mean stepping back and looking

1760
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 6: at I think the only I mean, listen, the Ravens

1761
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 6: could win. They're playing out of their minds right now

1762
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 6: and they've gotten right on defense. The Texans have no chance,

1763
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 6: the Steelers have no chance. I don't think the Chargers

1764
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 6: have any chance, and the Broncos have no chance. If

1765
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 6: the Dolphins getting in, I don't think they have a chance.

1766
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 6: The Bengals could get because of Joe Burrow. Reality is,

1767
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 6: I think it's down to three teams in the NFC.

1768
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: It's going to be Kansas City, Buffalo, or the Ravens.

1769
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 6: And I think Buffalo is the best chance to go

1770
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 6: beat Kansas City in Kansas City.

1771
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 7: And if you're looking for the long shot team of

1772
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 7: the ones you mentioned that if the Bengals don't get in,

1773
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 7: it would be the Chargers.

1774
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 6: I don't think they I don't think they can be

1775
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't even they're ready to beat No.

1776
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 5: But you know, there's always a surpride. I mean, you

1777
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 5: guys were once a surprise team. There's always a surprise

1778
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 5: team in the postseason.

1779
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 6: And to your point, the way the way Jim Harball

1780
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 6: plays and the way he coaches, the physicality and the

1781
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 6: mentality that group has, I just think.

1782
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 3: They're a year away from beefing up that defense.

1783
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 7: I'm with you, I don't think but of the Steelers,

1784
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 7: the Broncos, the Dolphins, and the Texans, you would take

1785
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 7: the Chargers over those teams.

1786
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 3: Without a doubt, without a doubt. Yeah, yeah, but I

1787
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: mean I think, I mean my guess is it's going

1788
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: to be Buffalo.

1789
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 5: Camps, Buffalo Baltimore at Kansas City.

1790
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: I think it's Buffalo.

1791
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 5: I do too. I think I think he's he's on

1792
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 5: he's on a mission.

1793
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 3: He's on a heater right now.

1794
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is Ravens over the Texans on Christmas

1795
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: Day later in the day thirty one to two the finals.

1796
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 5: Texans are very good right now and the quarterbacks struggling

1797
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 5: and the offensive line is struggling. This is not a

1798
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 5: good team right now.

1799
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: They said they're playing guys because they need to play

1800
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: better this week.

1801
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to discount the Ravens.

1802
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I said the but I think

1803
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 6: the Ravens are rounding in the in the forum right now.

1804
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 6: And they moved Kyle Hamilton back to free safety a

1805
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 6: number of weeks ago. In that defense is night and

1806
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 6: day difference. He's a really good player, and Lamar Jackson

1807
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 6: is the scariest human on the planet when it comes

1808
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 6: to being on a football field. And if they get

1809
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 6: hot and he's playing hot football, they could go beat

1810
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 6: Kansadity and they might.

1811
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 5: Be his playoff past for you.

1812
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it does, yea.

1813
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: And with a win on Saturday, they would secure the

1814
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: division title in the AFC North the Baltimore Ravens.

1815
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 6: Or don't you think because Lamar is such a good

1816
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 6: player and he very well, he very may.

1817
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: Well win the MVP again this year.

1818
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,879
Speaker 7: He's just I mean, what he does, it's amazing, amazing,

1819
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 7: it's amazing.

1820
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 5: You're going to give him the MVP. You got an

1821
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 5: MVP candidate in his backfield too.

1822
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 6: I agree, And I think the addition of Derrick Henry

1823
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 6: to that team, and I just think at some point

1824
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's gonna is going to continue the hot play

1825
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 6: as in the regular season to the playoffs. He has

1826
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 6: not done it yet, but at some point he's going to.

1827
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 6: He's too good of a player, right, And I think

1828
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 6: he's going to get to a super Bowl at least

1829
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 6: one and have a chance to win it.

1830
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: And maybe this is the year.

1831
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 5: Do they rush the passer well enough? That's the concern

1832
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 5: there with them.

1833
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Thursday, Seahawks over the Bears six to three, Barnburger.

1834
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 5: Yea, the Als are eliminated. They're done. They folded down

1835
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: the stretch.

1836
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: There you go. Saturday, three games, Chargers blasted the Patriots

1837
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: forty to seven, and the Bengals Broncos isd MAO, gonna

1838
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: get fired.

1839
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 5: No, he's not. The Bagels. They have the number one

1840
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 5: overall pick now.

1841
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: Right they do right now?

1842
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely leverage baby.

1843
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: The Bengals over the Broncos thirty to twenty four, wild one.

1844
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 5: And then that was that was a fun game.

1845
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, great game. And I give Sean Payton a ton

1846
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 6: of credit. They're a year ahead. What he's doing with

1847
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 6: that handicapped salary cap that he has hanged around is

1848
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 6: not handicapped, but that big weight hanging around his neck albatross.

1849
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Yep. I mean they've done a great job. They're a

1850
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 3: fun team.

1851
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 7: He's done a great job with the quarterback because the

1852
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 7: quarterback he leaves a lot of clean pockets and he

1853
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 7: makes me go outside the pocket, but he leaves a

1854
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,759
Speaker 7: lot of clean ones.

1855
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1856
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 6: But I don't think they're gonna do much in the

1857
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 6: in the playoffs if they do get there.

1858
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 3: But Sean Payton's hell of a job.

1859
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 5: No.

1860
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 7: But you know, funny though Tony, you watch their team

1861
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 7: play because they get so many sacks.

1862
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 5: That team gets.

1863
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 7: Zach Allen was there for whoever wanted them. He gets

1864
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 7: interior pressure all the time.

1865
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you think about would you have

1866
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 6: gone for two at the end of the game they're

1867
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 6: try to win it.

1868
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 7: No, because he if he gets a tie, he's in

1869
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 7: Yeah tis good ie.

1870
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 5: No, I would not have I would have kicked yeah.

1871
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,520
Speaker 1: Rams with the Cardinals thirteen to nine.

1872
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 7: They haven't looked right by the way last three games,

1873
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 7: not scoring for you know what, it's starting to show

1874
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 7: up with the Rams.

1875
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 5: They don't have guys who can run. They're not fast.

1876
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 7: And you know how people as good as Pooka Nakua

1877
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 7: and Cooper Cup doesn't look like the same guy last week.

1878
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 7: As good as they are, you got to have somebody

1879
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 7: that can scare you down the field or else they

1880
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 7: start sitting on everything.

1881
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a problem for you.

1882
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 6: What give less need credit because what they've done on

1883
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:27,480
Speaker 6: that defense they got four pass rushers were young and good.

1884
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 5: And young secondary players too.

1885
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Yep, let's get through the rest of the games. Raiders

1886
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: over the Saints, who cares? Giants over the Colts forty

1887
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: five thirty three? Wild when theyre with the Giants losing

1888
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: the number one pick. The Eagles over the Cowboys forty

1889
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: one to three. Would you play sekuon to get the record,

1890
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and one yards away from the single season record.

1891
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 5: No, I would not total. What's the point.

1892
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't think I would either.

1893
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 7: Because Okay and I had this debate with my guys

1894
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 7: the other day. I was saying, I'm sitting Lane Johnson

1895
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 7: and my lotta aren't playing. Why would Lane Johnson if

1896
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 7: you lose him, your team's in May. You've seen their

1897
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 7: numbers go down when he's not in the lineup. I'm

1898
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 7: not playing him, So I'm not playing Barkley. I'm not

1899
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 7: playing Hurts. I'm not playing them.

1900
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: They could have gone for the record this week. They

1901
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: pulled him out.

1902
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: Hey a Pete, what if Barkley, Lane Johnson, and Malatta

1903
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 3: all came to you, as the head coach says we

1904
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 3: want to play, we want to go get the record.

1905
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 7: I probably still not play him. I mean, if Barkley

1906
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 7: goes down, that changes the whole dynamic of that team.

1907
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 7: You're you know, record, super Bowls are what you're playing for.

1908
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 7: You want the accolades. But you went for over two thousand.

1909
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 7: That's a great season in itself. Is breaking the record

1910
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 7: and make it that much greater?

1911
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 5: It doesn't.

1912
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 7: I mean, Okay, may be the record holder, but big deal.

1913
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 7: Plus you're not doing it. You know, you look at

1914
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 7: some of those guys who had over two thousand yards.

1915
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 5: Oh j did it fourteen ze fourteen games.

1916
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 6: You know, would be an interesting question for Eric Dickerson

1917
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 6: when he traded the rush all time rushing title, single

1918
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 6: season rushing title for a Super Bowl.

1919
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 5: I bet he'd say yes.

1920
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I bet he would Bucks over the Panthers forty eight

1921
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: to fourteen. The Dolphins beat the Browns twenty to three,

1922
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Vikings over the Packers twenty seven to twenty five, and

1923
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: then boy, last night's game, Commanders over time over the

1924
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Falcons thirty to twenty four. Jayden Daniels is an incredible

1925
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: watch on television. He's fantastic, He's great.

1926
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 7: He's everything I thought he would be and more. Yeah,

1927
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 7: like I've said, I think he's the most improved player

1928
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 7: I've ever seen in my life in terms of the

1929
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 7: scouting process starting and where he is now. Because when

1930
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 7: he was at ASU, he was as average as they come. Average,

1931
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 7: got better worked at it, and you'd all talk about

1932
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 7: first one in and last one out.

1933
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 5: That's what he was at.

1934
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 7: LSU and that's why neighbors was that at LSU and

1935
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 7: that's why Brian Thomas became that at LSU, and so,

1936
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 7: I look, I love everything he's done. They're dangerous because

1937
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 7: of him. They'll be dangerous in the postseason because of him.

1938
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: And let me tell you what, dan Quin's a hell

1939
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: of a coach. He's proving he.

1940
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 5: Just gets it. He just gets it.

1941
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 6: He did it in Atlanta, had all kinds of success,

1942
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 6: should have won a Super Bowl if he would have

1943
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 6: just took three knees, you just run the clock.

1944
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 5: That was Yeah.

1945
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 7: I've argued that with Mike McDaniel back in the day

1946
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 7: about it too.

1947
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 6: And and the obviously great defensive coordinator proved that Dallas

1948
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 6: and he gets to the Commanders and year one with

1949
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback during the playoffs and tell me the

1950
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 6: last time, I can't remember, it's been a while that

1951
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 6: are that FedEx Field or whatever it's called now was

1952
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 6: packed to the brim with the place just rocking.

1953
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 5: I mean, it's amazing.

1954
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:55,759
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

1955
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 6: And kudos to obviously, you know, the whole Horde is,

1956
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 6: but you gotta give a lot of credit to dan

1957
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 6: Quinn what he's done.

1958
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 5: And by the way, Michael Pennack, if you're the Falcons.

1959
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 5: You come out of that game thinking because that's his

1960
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 5: first road start, and you're sitting there thinking, Okay, I

1961
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 5: got my guy.

1962
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's come back in a moment. Our Final thoughts

1963
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: will take a look at Week eighteen and we'll wrap

1964
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: it up. What a day it's been after Jaguars victory

1965
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Victory Monday and it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister

1966
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:36,599
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1967
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1968
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1969
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1971
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1972
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Speaker 1: all the available inventory and go Jaggs, Pete Prisco, Tony

1973
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Speaker 1: Macelli joining us. And hey, there's one game left in

1974
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Speaker 1: Week seventeen. It's Monday Night Football. The third T two

1975
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions have a huge division title matchup and battle

1976
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Speaker 1: for the number one seed next week against Minnesota. This

1977
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Speaker 1: week they're in Santa Clara against the six and nine

1978
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Who you got?

1979
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Speaker 7: The forty nine ers are down the two their first

1980
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Speaker 7: team left tackle, Trent Williams their second team left tackle.

1981
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Speaker 5: They got a guy signed off the practice squad, and.

1982
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Speaker 7: I think it's in fact, I think it might be

1983
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Speaker 7: Andy Heck's son, and so the right tackles out. I

1984
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Speaker 7: still I'll take the Niners.

1985
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Speaker 5: I'll think they're so surprise in this game. I'll what

1986
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Speaker 5: are the Lions really playing for?

1987
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Speaker 1: Right?

1988
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Speaker 3: Well?

1989
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Speaker 6: Dan and Campbell said they're playing to win, and I

1990
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Speaker 6: think they go out and play to win. I think

1991
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Speaker 6: they I think they play all their starters, maybe rest

1992
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Speaker 6: guys late if it gets on a hand either way.

1993
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Speaker 6: But I think I think the Lions win. But the

1994
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Speaker 6: real game what matters is next week. I'm glad we're

1995
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Speaker 6: playing at one pm JP, so I think we'll get

1996
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Speaker 6: home in time to at least see the last three quarters.

1997
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Speaker 3: Of that game.

1998
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1999
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the last game of the regular season.

2000
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Speaker 5: The you know what the real game is is Wednesday.

2001
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm worried. I'm worried about that game. You

2002
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 5: know why, Tony, they're big, Texas, they're big.

2003
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna go up to Atlanta?

2004
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Speaker 5: Pete, I'm going You're.

2005
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Speaker 1: Gonna be there the whole deal.

2006
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Speaker 5: I'm going.

2007
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Speaker 3: I'll be there all right, sitting in the press.

2008
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Speaker 5: No, I got seats.

2009
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Speaker 1: Oh, get your palm poms ready, that's what you're going.

2010
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Speaker 5: I am, I am, Me and my wife are going.

2011
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Speaker 5: It's gonna be fun.

2012
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Speaker 3: That's awesome for you.

2013
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Speaker 1: What was the last time you actually went to a

2014
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Speaker 1: football game as a fan?

2015
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Speaker 7: I saw ASU play at Georgia years ago in the rain.

2016
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Speaker 5: It was miserable. It was raining the whole game, and

2017
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Speaker 5: they were it was actually close. It was when I was.

2018
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Speaker 7: Going to games, and I got up the next morning

2019
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Speaker 7: and made it to Cincinnati for one pm kick.

2020
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Speaker 5: If you can believe that. I said to myself, like, oh,

2021
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Speaker 5: I'll never do that again. Yeah I did. It's funny

2022
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Speaker 5: because I'm there. What Georgia? It was that Georgia. Then

2023
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in Georgia for this one. Then I'll

2024
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Speaker 5: be back in Georgia for the National Championship.

2025
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Speaker 1: Listen to this guy be Frisco, confident as always, Tony Vasselli.

2026
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Speaker 5: I'm j P.

2027
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Speaker 1: Shadwick. Thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, David Choe, Brooke Hoffee,

2028
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Speaker 1: our entire crew. Thanks for listening. It's Shaguars Happy Hour

2029
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Speaker 1: presented by mister Chubby's wings