1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: It's Binberg, Brief and Menascrani alongside Danny Berger in New 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: York with the Democrats are during on President Biden's exit 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: from the election race, scoring more than fifty million dollars 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: in donations just on Sunday alone since the announcement. Let's 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: get the reactions from US law makers who are at 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: farmboroth show. Guy Johnson is there. You're talking politics and planes. Guy, 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: good morning, It's. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: The perfect combination politics and aerospace. We'll walk of you 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: want on a Monday morning. Manas, thank you very much. Indeed, yes, sir, 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: welcome from a BLUs three Farmborough air Show. This year's 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: events obviously has been overshadowed by the political developments that 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: we've seen in the United States overnight. So let's get 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: a take now on what that ultimately means, not only 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: for the country, but also for the aerospace industry. I'm 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: joined by Senator Jerry Moran Public I'm from Kansas, and 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: Senator Genie Shahey, Democrats from New Hampshire. I'm going to 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: start with you, Senator. Understandably, obviously, the news overnights comes 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: as a shock, but not as a shock. Is Vice 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: President Harris the right choice? Do you think now to 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: take on Joe Biden's mantle? Do you think others should 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: be given a choice. I appreciate you being over here 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: for the last few days, but you must have a 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: view on what is happening here. 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Well. First of all, it's nice to be here at 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Farmer Airshow. Senator Maran and I are co leading a 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: bipartisan delegation from all across the United States. We're mostly appropriators, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: so we fund airplanes like the ones we see in 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: behind us. But we're also on the Armed Services Committee 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: some of us, so it's exciting to be here to 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: see what's happening and to promote United States innovation on politics. 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 1: I haven't been in the United States for several days, 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: but it's going to be a very interesting process. People 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: are very excited. I think Vice President Harris has moved 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: very quickly to build support, but the delegates to the 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: convention will decide ultimately if she gets the nomination, so 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I think we'll see a lot of activity in the 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: coming movie. Does he support her? We are waiting for 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the President to address the nation later this week. President 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has done an excellent job investing in America 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: over the last four years. He deserves a tremendous amount 42 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: of respect and credit for his willingness to step down 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: and what he believes is the best interest of the country. 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going to wait to hear from him. 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: Do you have a candidate in mind? I guess it's 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: the real question, right, So you at the moment are 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: reasonably agnostic on who you think ultimately should be his 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: successor we'll wait for plane to take off so we 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: can hear your answer. 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, no, I think it will be important to have 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: someone who will carry on the man until of the president, 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: and clearly the vice president has done that. But we're 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: going to wait. 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: See, so a continuousy candidate would be something that you'll 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: be looking for. 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: That's important. 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 3: Okay, let's look at it from the other side of 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: the aisle. We're sitting here in Europe. There is serious 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: concern over here about what a Trump two point zero 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: presidency would ultimately mean. We all heard what jd Vance 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: said the other day at the RNC. There is a 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: concern that America is going to become more isolationist. Is 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: that your perspective? 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: It is not my hope and it's certainly nothing that 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: is foretold that's not going to happen if we get 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: the right policies in place. We have for seventy five 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: years Republican administrations, democratic administrations. America has been hugely engaged 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: in NATO, supportive of the cause, and at a time 69 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: in which Putin has invaded Russia, Russians have invaded Ukraine, 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: it is not a time for America to back off 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: of its commitment around the globe. My experience in being 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: here and talking to foreign leaders is that they have 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: significant determination, but it takes the United States to have success. 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: And so as a team, Europeans and Americans, NATO's and 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: our allies of a role to play in the world. 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: And I think there's a justification for us making certain 77 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: that we do the right things in a way that 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 4: we share the burdens with our allies. 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: But I don't expect America to walk away from the 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: world in any administration. 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: So you voted for Ukraine eate in the past, I did. 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: Do you think that that aid is at risk? 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: I do not. 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: But again, President Trump, when he was president, made it 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: pretty clear that he expects our European allies, our fellow 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: NATO members to do more, and that was absolutely the 88 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: right thing to encourage and in fact to insist that 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: they do so, and we've seen results of that. It's happening. 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: And again, I think there's a path forward Ukraine for success, 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: for a victory, and I think that it's important for 92 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: us to continue to pursue this cause. 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's important to point out that that 94 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: aid package, passed overwhelmingly in both the House and Senate, 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: was strong bipartisan support. So while it took longer than 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: any of us had hoped, it got there with a 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: lot of strong bipartisan support. 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: Do you think that's a democratic governments in the United States, 99 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: and democratic governments in the United States will be less 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: isolationists than a Republican ministers. 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Look, I expect whoever the next president is to do 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: what's in the national security interests of the United States. 103 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Our role in the world, our role in NATO in 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: supporting the Ukrainians in this war, the unprovoked war that 105 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Russia has instigated in Ukraine, our support for the Indo Pacific, 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: for providing the counterbalance to China, all of that is 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: in our interest. And whoever's president, I'm sure is going 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to do what's in the best interest of the United States. 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: Let me make this point that the world is going 110 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: to change. I mean, as politics is changing the United States, 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: and you focus upon what's happening in the US, we're 112 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 4: going to have additional challenges in the next one hundred days, 113 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: in the next four years, and as the world we 114 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: our adversaries are aligning against us from Iran and their proxies, Russia, 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: the South Pacific, and China. So when you ask about 116 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: whether or not the United States is going to be 117 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: in isolation this country, one, the answer is no, But two, 118 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: we're not going to have a choice because the challenges 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: are going to be so great to our own nation. 120 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: But the priorities that the priorities are impulsive is Asia. 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Is China a bigger priority than Europe? He talks about 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: burden sharing, What does Europe need to do to share 123 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: the burden adequately. 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: So a number of my colleagues were opposed to aid 125 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: for Ukraine, Republican colleagues, YEP, because they said the focus 126 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: should be China. But the reality is what we demonstrate 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: with our European allies in Ukraine determines what happens. What response. 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: What happens to the South Pacific and China is activity. 129 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: So the world watches to see if we're capable, and 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: we need to demonstrate that. And it's not just about Ukraine. 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: It's about American security, and it's about making certain our 132 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: adversaries present and future know that when America is committed 133 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: to something, they're there for the long haul. 134 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: But I mean, you know he's going to address the 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: Joint Session in a few days time, you sit them 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: for our relations what do you want to hit. 137 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: I would like to hear him talk about what he 138 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: plans to do to end this war. I would like 139 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: to hear him say that they're going to increase humanitarian 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: aid to all of those Palestinians affected in Gaza. I 141 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: would like to hear him say that he's going to 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: initiate elections in Israel so that the Israeli people who 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: have been demonstrated against his leadership understand that there's the 144 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: potential for an option. I would like to hear him 145 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: say that he's going to figure out how to resolve 146 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: some of the challenges with Southern Lebanon so that we 147 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: don't see an increased war in Southern Lebanon. So I 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: hope he will talk about all of those issues. I 149 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: would be surprised. 150 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: Yes, that is quite the list said, This is Shaheen. 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: Senator Moran, thank you both indeed for joining us here 152 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: at the Farm burressa and braving the weather with me. 153 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: It's great to see you both. Thank you very much. Indeed, 154 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: very British weather and to be back with you. Think 155 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: it's nice to see you guys Danny Berger and Neil. 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: Let me hand things back to you. 157 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Guy, thank you very much braving the weather and a 158 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: lot of jets taking off to Guy Chanson there at 159 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: the farm Airshow. Important here from two Senators on the 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Subcommittee for Defense