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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Matt Williamson. Matt, the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl matchup is set. We will see the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs trying to defend their title against Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And to me, the first of all,

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Speaker 1: the the term goat is going to be overused, oversaturated,

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Speaker 1: ridiculously used over the next two weeks. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: the term is stupid, to be quite frank, I think

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Speaker 1: it's dumb because, for for the longest time and to

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Speaker 1: this day, if you were a goat, that means that

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Speaker 1: you screwed something else right, right. And then someone got

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Speaker 1: cute and said greatest of all time. Oh, that spells goats,

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Speaker 1: So now we're bot best best of all time has

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Speaker 1: a much different connotation. I didn't. As a society, we've

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Speaker 1: gotten to Well, here's the thing. Can't you just enjoy

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Speaker 1: the moments for what they are? Does everything have to

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Speaker 1: be this guy is the best player of this, So

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Speaker 1: this guy is the best player of that. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the it's the Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan's argument, it's

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Speaker 1: the better than Georgia. It's just it's silly guys from

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Speaker 1: different eras that they don't match. It doesn't right, I

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Speaker 1: mean comparing Montana to Brady even or you know, um,

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Speaker 1: I also hate to we have to have a label

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Speaker 1: for everything. Your your goat boat conversation like so tired,

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Speaker 1: tired of let rust cook. That's what we have. But

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Speaker 1: we can't talk about that with the other thirty one quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: They'll throw it up like whatever, why do we always

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Speaker 1: have the stupid labels and hashtags? Whatever? I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: just old. But along those lines, I've been asked about

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Speaker 1: a five times already. What about Aaron Rodgers, He's won

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Speaker 1: in four in conference championships. I mean, Matthew Stafford's never

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Speaker 1: want a playoff games, never want to playoff game. You know,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees is five hundred players? Does that take away

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Speaker 1: from there? From what they've done. That's why I just say,

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Speaker 1: I think Peyton Manning slightly over five Drew Brees one

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Speaker 1: game over five d Manning was he might have been

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Speaker 1: at five hundred. I think he's under five on maybe okay,

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Speaker 1: it was fifteen and fourteen or fourteen and fifteen. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember which one of this, and Bradies or what's

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Speaker 1: his face, Breeze is just one over. I think he's

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Speaker 1: ten and nine or nine and eight something like that.

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Speaker 1: And Rogers Conference championship numbers are or is win losses

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Speaker 1: are bad. I mean it's only five games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: no one cares when the Pens go one and four

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Speaker 1: and five games or the Pirates or whatever, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's such a small sample size and

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Speaker 1: it's tough, and it's such a team game, and he

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Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of help yesterday. By no means

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Speaker 1: do I tarnish rogers accomplishments at all, But I do

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Speaker 1: think kind of like the Jordan's thing you mentioned, Brady's

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Speaker 1: rain really hurts everybody else. Yeah, I mean that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the I mean, And to me, it just drives

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Speaker 1: home from the point. And I said this last night

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Speaker 1: on on The Final Word on on Channel eleven, and

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Speaker 1: I've always said this, It's about the Jimmy's and Joe's

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Speaker 1: more than the xs and ohs. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: the players, if you don't have that great player leading you,

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Speaker 1: you're not nearly as good Belichick. Belichick won seven games

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Speaker 1: this year, and I said at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: if he won eight game with that team, oh, I

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Speaker 1: thought seven games the heck when the call? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But he didn't get him into the playoffs. He didn't

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Speaker 1: sniffed the playoffs with that team. No, not even close.

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Speaker 1: I think they would have been They would have been,

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Speaker 1: they would they would have been better. They may have

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Speaker 1: been in competition for for a wild card. Yes, agreed,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're passing him. Was so bad and Cam

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Speaker 1: was awesome. It was the worst. It was the worst

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Speaker 1: in the league. It was the worst fast in game league.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of that had to do with Cam.

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Speaker 1: They were played much differently, of course, But Brady wasn't

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Speaker 1: good last year with them either. But he got but

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Speaker 1: he got him into the playoffs. But he got to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then you see him with Godwin and

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Speaker 1: Evans and all these guys around him in protection and

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Speaker 1: a defense and a defense defense. That's the story. No

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Speaker 1: one's talking about. That was the Bucks. D should get

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Speaker 1: the game ball for that. Absolutely, I've said all along.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Todd Bowls is not getting any I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy I thought he did a good job with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. It's the Jets, and he has head coach experience,

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Speaker 1: head coach experience. He's got that defense some things different

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Speaker 1: and better this time around. It's like Belichick in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: The second time around goes a long way, and that

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Speaker 1: guy should have gotten, should have gotten some play in

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Speaker 1: down to Leslie Fraser and yeah, but to me, name

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Speaker 1: was never mentioned, never ever, didn't interview this offseason. That

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Speaker 1: needs to change. I thought that the defensive line controlled

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. They had a good plan, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I thought Green Bay was pretty thoroughly outcoached. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was two huge plays that they're they're obvious evidence

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Speaker 1: to that. That play at the end of the first

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Speaker 1: half when you're in single coverage like you're Greg Williams

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, like what are you doing there?

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Speaker 1: And then obviously kicking the field goal when you should

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Speaker 1: have went forward, and I thought was obvious. But they

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Speaker 1: did stupid things in my opinion to like when they

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Speaker 1: rushed Tom Brady, they tried to get all their pressure

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Speaker 1: up like we know, everyone in the world knows Brady look,

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Speaker 1: you know, and um balls didn't do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bulls got a lot of pressure with four his guys

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Speaker 1: were beaten up on the tackles for the Packers, and

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Speaker 1: the Packers didn't adjust. And it's also I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: knowing that that Rogers likes to step up in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: you know, and when he you know, just rush your guy,

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, disengage and grab him, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: monster power power rushers. They're not they're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: too far upfield. And they didn't. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: it was a good situation. And I thought the Packers

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Speaker 1: also showed they could use another receiver to you know,

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Speaker 1: Davante had a little bit of a tough go of it,

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Speaker 1: and and you know in that case again it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's always, always, always nine times out of ten comes

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Speaker 1: down to the Jimmy's and Joe's as opposed to the

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Speaker 1: excess nose. No. Um. You know, even if even if

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Speaker 1: they if they don't give up the touchdown at the

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Speaker 1: only reasons they lost the worst team, but yeah, that

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Speaker 1: turned the football over. That brings me the Chiefs too, because,

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Speaker 1: like any reads a phenomenal coach and their exes those

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Speaker 1: are great, don't get me wrong, but that trio of

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Hill and Mahomes might be the best one I've

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Speaker 1: they're they're different there so complimentary to each other. Because

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna take if you're gonna play deep and

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Speaker 1: not allow Tyreek Kill to beat you over the top Helse,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna kill you. He's passes or whatever it did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you're the Other thing too, is

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're just gonna play basic zones,

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Speaker 1: play man coverage against Kelsey and Hill, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Red figure out all your adjustments and all

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Speaker 1: I threw it out on Twitter. I mean, is Kelsey

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Speaker 1: better than Gonzales and Chief's history. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: he's in that conversation now and for a while there

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Speaker 1: this year, I even said it, and I regret ever

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Speaker 1: saying it's saying Davantae Adams the best or step in

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Speaker 1: the league. It's tyreek kill. I mean, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of fear, who do you want to play against? Not him?

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Speaker 1: As all I know. I mean he is a scary dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just a it's a it's a perfect

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Speaker 1: marriage of all three of those things that makes them

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Speaker 1: so difficult to defend. Um. You know, I just thought

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Speaker 1: to me. And again that how you opened this conversation.

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Speaker 1: There's been too much narrative on the negatives. I mean,

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Speaker 1: was Buffalo overrated? I'm hearing that. I mean, they a

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Speaker 1: great year, they learned, they made the conference championship game.

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Speaker 1: You know that that's They're gonna be everyone's picked to

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Speaker 1: win the East next year. They'll probably win double digit games.

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Speaker 1: They may win the Super Bowl and look back and

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Speaker 1: say that was the we learned so much from that playoff.

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Speaker 1: If you if you look at it from you know,

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Speaker 1: They are, you know, kind of think of it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna roll it back and at a

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Speaker 1: first round pick. And now their question is going to

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Speaker 1: the time you getta you have to pick up you know,

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Speaker 1: do something with that quarterback contract. Yeah, and we heard that,

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Speaker 1: and we heard that today out of Baltimore. Well or

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Speaker 1: yes today, no today, Yeah, we need to you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna work on a contract extension with Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Basically we love them. Where we're going out now you're

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Speaker 1: your window of you know, your opportunity. You had three

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Speaker 1: years of cheap quarterback play that goes away. That's a

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Speaker 1: different test. You know. The Packers, the Steelers, the Saints

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Speaker 1: have dealt with this forever. You know, when you have

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Speaker 1: a high, high end quarterback who's making top money, he's

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Speaker 1: not a rookie deal anymore, and deserves every penny of it.

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Speaker 1: It's sure is tough. And I think it even applies

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs because Mahomes deal isn't really kicked in yet,

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Speaker 1: high price guy. I'm sure they'll make it work, but

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Speaker 1: they'll probably have to move on from the Frank Clarks

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Speaker 1: of the world, you know which, and you mentioned it

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Speaker 1: off there. I mean the state of the Chiefs offensive

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Speaker 1: lines and shambles right now. And the Ravens they need stuff.

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Speaker 1: They need an offensive lineman or two, they need edge rushers,

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Speaker 1: they really need a veteran receiver. That's ten million, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Um, the Browns need to restructure their defense.

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Speaker 1: The Bills don't need things, but soon guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: style of of coach they go after for those. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I would love to have one of those to be

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Speaker 1: someone that's been a head coach at some level, just

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Speaker 1: to be in Tomlin's here a little bit some of

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Speaker 1: the administrator not administrative stuff, but game day stuff. Things

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Speaker 1: like that been there, you know. I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: know those names off the top of my head, but

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Speaker 1: that was kind of appealing with Hugh Maron's name was

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Speaker 1: mentioned with the old line. Those guys have been down

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Speaker 1: that road for better or worse. Yeah, I know some

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Speaker 1: people looked at like Maron got hired at Alabama to

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Speaker 1: be the line coach down there, and and uh um,

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Speaker 1: you know, look it's Alabama. That's a great job. It's

437
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Speaker 1: a great job. But they can Brian just took the

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Speaker 1: old phones coordinator job. They could pay you whatever they

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Speaker 1: want to pay, Like, there's no there's no downside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you go if you lose one game,

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Speaker 1: that's a bad year. So there is a little pressure,

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna get the best kids. I mean, Nick's

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. You know, you have the ultimate job

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Speaker 1: security and it's a it's proven to be an awesome

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Speaker 1: stepping stone position for I'm gonna be the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: here for a year and then the head gis somewhere

447
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Speaker 1: else or you know, like day Ball was there for

448
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Speaker 1: a bit and now he's being talked about as a

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Speaker 1: head coaching candidate in the NFL. I mean, it's almost

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Speaker 1: a no lose situation. You give me the Jimmy's and Joe's. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why he goes back to our our conversation. Not

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Speaker 1: only do you have the Jimmy's and Joe's, but now

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Speaker 1: you've also got the excessent oas. I mean, most of

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Speaker 1: the most years, you know you're not gonna lose any gain.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's just the way it is. You

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Speaker 1: may lose in terms of I bet they're paid very well,

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Speaker 1: I would guess so. I think so like Saban's probably

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Speaker 1: Saban and I would be willing to bet is the

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Speaker 1: highest Paige State employee in Alabama by far, probably by

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Speaker 1: far I had in the second and third most are

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Speaker 1: are probably the offensive and defensive coordinators in Alabama football

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Speaker 1: there or something like that. But right, somebody who is

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Speaker 1: tied into the football program, and there's a I must say,

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Speaker 1: I'm not implying that there's any shadiness going on, but

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Speaker 1: it's nice to have all those Alabama boosters on your side.

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Speaker 1: And then you walk ome. You need a car, right

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Speaker 1: or how much you can get a house in this plan.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty years from now and you retired, you never

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Speaker 1: buy a beer in your life in the state or right,

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Speaker 1: there's some parks to all that doubt. So, I mean

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Speaker 1: people were looking at that like, oh, boy, Moron, would

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Speaker 1: he would turn down a chop a job in the

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Speaker 1: NFL to go to cut Yeah, it's a prime job,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. I mean there there aren't many jobs as

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Speaker 1: you would take over because of the history of it too.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's Clemson to me, isn't even close just

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Speaker 1: because the history is not you know, USC or anything close.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're the you were to win the title

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Speaker 1: every year and you're gonna say I pumped out only

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Speaker 1: three first round picks this year and you were. I

481
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Speaker 1: mean recruiting there is now, like who do you want? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're turning, you're turning. Oh you're you're only a four star. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't need things work out with these two dudes,

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Speaker 1: right if if we happen, there's no recruiting there. And

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, I mean, there absolutely isn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I tell the story a bunch about the U and

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Speaker 1: they were the U, and I'm sure it's the same

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Speaker 1: with Bama. And I was just so jealous because we

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Speaker 1: would recruit Miami heavy, and of course we couldn't beat

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Speaker 1: the U on kids. But Coker or Butcher, whoever the

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Speaker 1: head coach was at the time, would sit down with

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Speaker 1: a sixteen year old stud player, best player in the

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Speaker 1: state or whatever and say two things to him. He said, son,

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Speaker 1: you come here, you have five years to become a

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Speaker 1: starter at the U and you'll be a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: And here's the history. Ever, Baba Franks to Shocky to

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Speaker 1: Kellyn too. You know, every position has that same lineage,

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Speaker 1: and then they get there and realize becoming a starter

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Speaker 1: to use not so easy, right, And five years is

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Speaker 1: not enough time for me to do it necessarily, But

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Speaker 1: every kid thinks they can start in five years. One year,

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Speaker 1: they got to become a starter in your first round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good at recoting tool. Yeah. And and then

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Speaker 1: you start flashing rings and you know she's a pretty

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Speaker 1: nice yeah yeah, probably a good looking co editor two

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Speaker 1: on that campus as well. Yeah, So that'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what they do with the offensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: and of course so we'll see what happens with the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs coach as well. The two big hires though

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Speaker 1: on offense though absolutely absolutely yeah, um, you know, just

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Speaker 1: elevating back coach might be in charge of your first

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Speaker 1: round pick next year in the future, right yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: so you know these are this takes care of one opening,

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Speaker 1: but it also feels it opens another one. Uh nearly

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Speaker 1: is important, especially with where this league, this team is,

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Speaker 1: especially for a year from now. Um, in terms of

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Speaker 1: looking at the big picture with this whole thing, You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, I mean, they you know this is this

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00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: is a chance, you know for a quarterbacks coach or

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator to kind of help the Steelers take

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Speaker 1: that next step. Where are you going? Where you going?

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Speaker 1: What are we looking for? What's our on our list

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Speaker 1: of requirements? What do we have to have from the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position? What do we really want? You know, what

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Speaker 1: what style play or do we want? And I said

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Speaker 1: this last week when they signed Haskins, it worried me

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Speaker 1: a little that they picked up another pocket passer. But

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Speaker 1: he's so not important in the in the mix that

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Speaker 1: he was just a gift from above. It didn't matter

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Speaker 1: if he was fast, slow, big, little whatever, you just

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Speaker 1: grab him. Um. But I hope that the next guy

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00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: athleticism and playmaking skills out of structure is high on

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Speaker 1: the list. It's kind of the same way with the

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach, because he's going to you know you

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00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: you go hand in hand. Yeah, you're going and you're

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00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: going to get a chance to rebuild this line. And

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00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: it's really hard, even though holding is legal now to

538
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: build an offensive Apparently false starts are too, because if

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00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: you you know, you're allowed to leave, you know us

540
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: before the snap is happens all the time, all the time,

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Speaker 1: all the time. It all getting off the ball, especially

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Speaker 1: in past plays. Um. But it's still so hard to

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00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: build an elite pass blocking line, which goes back to

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: having that pocket pass or which you need. And Steer

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00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: has had it for a long time, you know, all

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00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: the continuity they've had and the offensive line they've had,

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00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: and Ben thrived in it. But that's a hard formula

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00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: to keep up. Yeah, for sure he is. Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lellye. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take another break. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Your tunes about drive

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Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fucking back up, Dale, Lully here with Matt Williamson and

554
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I met if you were the Steelers in do you

555
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: petition the league for like a week thirteen? Buy because

556
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: it seemed to work for the seemed to work for

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00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: the Bucks paid off well for Tampa, and they were

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: struggling before that. They were beat up and looking old.

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Speaker 1: And Brady had like twenty seven straight incompletions on passes

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Speaker 1: a twenty or more yards down the field, something like that,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they come out of

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Speaker 1: there by we can it just clicks And there was

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00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: a total disconnect between sound him, this is reported Brady's

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Speaker 1: style of playing offense and what be A wanted to.

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Speaker 1: And as I read quotes before the game yesterday that

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Speaker 1: Arian said something like, you know, in New New England

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Speaker 1: they'd never let Tom coach. Well, as the year went on,

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Speaker 1: we let him coach more and more, and I think

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Speaker 1: twelve knows what he's doing, probably deserves that more than

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Speaker 1: any quarterback. And I heard something interesting as well from

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan yesterday and then one of the pregame shows,

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Speaker 1: uh he said that the toughest thing he faced as

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Speaker 1: a head coach was when the quarterback was calling his

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Speaker 1: own stuff. M probably less more predictable. Predictable yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: he said. You know when you went into a game

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Speaker 1: against Peyton Manning, you know, it became a matchup between

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and your defensive coordinator. And the differences is

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Speaker 1: your defensive coordination not on the field one one one

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Speaker 1: seeing what you're lining up in and running something based

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Speaker 1: off what you're what you're showing, and the other ones

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Speaker 1: out there going Okay, what can we show him that's

582
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: going to trick him? Yeah, And I can go talk

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Speaker 1: to my left guard and be like, I can't block

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Speaker 1: my outside shoulder. You know, well, let's change the production

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Speaker 1: to make your life a little easier where it has

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Speaker 1: to go through people realize the game happened so fast.

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00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Play to play to play, it seems like it's slow.

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Speaker 1: You know, you run for four seconds, then you stop

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Speaker 1: and relax. I mean it's it's fast. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: make adjustments on the fly, and I'm sure it's way

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00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: easier for Manning to do it when he can do

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Speaker 1: it right before he snaps the ball or as opposed

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Speaker 1: to going up the chain of command and it comes

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Speaker 1: back down and maybe the coordinator disagrees with you, and

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00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: very rarely do you find a defensive counterpart, And from

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Speaker 1: what I remember, it seemed like ray Lewis could match

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Speaker 1: wits with them. You know, Keikley has done that over

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Speaker 1: the years. But if you could have a defensive mind

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Speaker 1: that's at least competitive with some of these quarterbacks, I

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Speaker 1: think that goes a long way, you know. And it

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Speaker 1: brings me back to Ben. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much to make of I started calling plays in

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Speaker 1: a second half, and I don't believe half of that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I certainly don't believe anything is drawn up in

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Speaker 1: the dirt. But is he a good play caller? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, or is he the worst play caller? Like

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Speaker 1: I I wish I knew more about that from Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: when it's at LIB time. I think there are times

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Speaker 1: when he's a good play caller. I think there are

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Speaker 1: times when he becomes too dependent on throwing the football

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Speaker 1: that's gonna go with the two because historically Brady and

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00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: Manning will hand it to Edge or Moroney or whoever.

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Speaker 1: If that's what you're giving me, they're very patient. Rarely

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Speaker 1: a quarterback's patient because they're great and they want to

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Speaker 1: throw the footba it goes back to our best our

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Speaker 1: best chances is with me throwing the football. I'm a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. I think it's easier

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Speaker 1: to do that, easier to say, oh, we're gonna run

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Speaker 1: the ball in this play. When you trust the running

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Speaker 1: backs without question, I mean, and when the trust, then

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Speaker 1: the house of cards starts to fall. I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think that again. It takes us back to the

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Speaker 1: conversations we've had a hundred times now since the seasons ended.

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Speaker 1: Steelers need upgrade the running backs room in the whole

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Speaker 1: running game, obviously, and and everything, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: now instead of Ben saying, Okay, this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a fifty fifty play, I'm gonna throw it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I could either pass or run on this play. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna run the ball here, you hope. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tomlin knows that answer. You and I will never know

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Speaker 1: that answer. I'm the biggest Danny Marino fan in the

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Speaker 1: league you'll find. But a criticism I heard from multiple

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Speaker 1: sources was if it was there's no way, yeah, even

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Speaker 1: if it's the right call, And that's fine, but everyone

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Speaker 1: the league knows it too. You know what I mean,

636
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Like that's something like the Bills are going to have

637
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: to deal with like okay, we understand the analytics or

638
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: throw it like like crazy, but if you have no

639
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: threat of a running game except your quarterback, you become

640
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: too easy to play against. The Bill struggled down and

641
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: at some point, I mean there was there was another

642
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: play yesterday where he got bent over sideways and it

643
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: was like, you know, at some point here, not eight

644
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, at some point Brandon Alan's or Josh Allen's

645
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt running the football. He's a big target.

646
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the comparisons and these eclips these were to

647
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton coming out. Cam's career might be over and

648
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: really might have been over three years ago. And that's

649
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: fine for the first overall pick. But what could have

650
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: been what if we had protect him a little more,

651
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, if he'd learned to be a better pocket passer,

652
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: if he learned to do um. You know that we

653
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: don't run quarterback power with him five times a game

654
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: where you gets hit by a smashed from three different

655
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: sides right like Jerome. You know. Yeah, So it's an

656
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: interesting conversation and it is a fine line. And boy,

657
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: that the Steelers have walked it for a long time,

658
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: of extending the lifespan of your quarterback and how to

659
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: play to make that work and all those things. It's hard,

660
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, and I do wish I knew Ben's nature

661
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: more of if you do give him the running game.

662
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was hard for Lway. I'm sure it

663
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: was really hard for Lway and probably to be driven

664
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: into his head and deep down the competitor probably realized,

665
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: I can't win a super Bowl doing what I used

666
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: to do, but I can this way. I'm buying in.

667
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: But that's got to be a tough sell. Yeah, that's

668
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: the thing. But you're not gonna do that if you

669
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: don't trust the running backs. Sure, sure, I mean what

670
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: you have now, you can't. There's the way you're selling

671
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: that to Ben. Like I can either throw the football

672
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: to these guys on the outside were pretty good, We're

673
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: pretty good. Or I can hand it to Benny Snell.

674
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to these guys in the outside,

675
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and he doesn't make the button block defender miss and

676
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: we don't have enough guys to block them. And that's

677
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: a two. When it was Levi on Bell back there

678
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: they ran the ball more, you know, so you know

679
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that to me, you know, people were going

680
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: back and forth. You know, the Steelers need to fix

681
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: that offensive line first. I think the easier fixed to

682
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: me is is a running back too. I hesitate to

683
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: say that because that goes against my core beliefs. And

684
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you drafted you have to draft a

685
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: running back in the first round though, I'm not saying

686
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: that at all, but you have to prioritize getting a

687
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: dynamic running back. Yes, that room has to be better,

688
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: because that references a lot. I really think it's been

689
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: two years of miserable play that With all respected Duck

690
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: and Rudolph, that offense was never going to be good.

691
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: But if you had a guy there that was an

692
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: average starting running back, it would have been better. There

693
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: have been more first and there were games where they

694
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: were getting like Connor was that but he but he

695
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: wasn't available in off right. Again, if Connors, you're two

696
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: in that situation and your first guy happens to get

697
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: hurt and you know count you can't count on Connor.

698
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I look at it this way. James Conner this year

699
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: average four point three yards of carry and that's great.

700
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: The average the sixteenth best rushing team in the league

701
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: average four point three yards of carry. So Connor was

702
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: essentially being giving you average play out of all right,

703
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: the other guys Snell average three point four yards of carry,

704
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: McFarland average three point three yards of carry, Jaylen Samuel's

705
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: average three point one yards carry, running behind the same

706
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: offensive line scheme and everything right right, the same weapons

707
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: around him. And I said, I'm in a yard per play.

708
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Yard per play is significant, and you can say, well, Snell,

709
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: did you know? Snell had a lot of short goal

710
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: line carries. Okay, great, but he also broke off a

711
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: couple of longer runs that balances that out. He was

712
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: a three point four yards to carry back, and I

713
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: fear that's what he is. Yeah, McFarland had a twenties

714
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a twenty six yard carrier, twenty yard runner,

715
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: and in his thirty one carries, you take that away,

716
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: he evers two points six yards and carry. And I A, right,

717
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. That's really bad, really really bad. But

718
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: I trust, I don't trust, but I would put a

719
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: chip down that McFarland's goes up next year before Snells does. Yes,

720
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: at least just another year experience, and there's more talent there.

721
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: He may never be a hit, and I'm not counting

722
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: on him one bit. I mean, I want McFarland to

723
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: be my three, right, I'm with you. I I just

724
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: think if you get a dynamic back in there again,

725
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: a guy you saw with the four net touchdown run yesterday,

726
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the next and he's not great the next gen stats

727
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: that that should have been a three yard run. If

728
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: that's just one of the Steelers running back, it's a

729
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: three yard run or it's a three yard loss. They

730
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: don't get to the corner. He gets to the corner,

731
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: does a little spin move and gets into the end zone.

732
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: And there's twenty backs better than him. But he's a

733
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a quality NFL back And at the time,

734
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: I might you don't think you're implying they should have

735
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: picked up four net because when when when he was available,

736
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: we kind of believe it. Well, people were saying that

737
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: they should put a waiver aim in on that's that's

738
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: five point five million dollars first round money. You're not

739
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: paying him that if you get him on the cheap shore.

740
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: They could have used him this year. There's some hindsight

741
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: to that, obviously, because at the time, neither one of

742
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: us were banging the table that, oh how did you

743
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: let him get away? For a lot of the season

744
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: he really didn't do much. He didn't do much, and

745
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's special but by any stretch, and

746
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: he catch them all a little. But he's the best

747
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: guy they got and he's playing well right now, you know,

748
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: to your point, and he but ideally that room, I

749
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: don't know that you can get it to this point.

750
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: But if McFarland's my three, Connor Galman, Jamal Williams hide veteran,

751
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: cheap grinder, professional is my two and or my stop

752
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: gap one, and I have a rookie is the projected

753
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: one sooner than later, which would have to be a

754
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: day one or two pick, then I think that's what

755
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: you're looking for. Can you get there? I don't know. Yeah,

756
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Goldman is not gonna play for free. You know.

757
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: That would be my goal though this offseason. If you

758
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: could build that room to look like that, you'd be

759
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: in good shape for now, for the future. McFarland, if

760
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: he hits, maybe he can be your ekeler. You know

761
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: you who comes in the ridden. Yeah, yeah, I hate

762
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: to say it because I think both have a role

763
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: and both do good things. But Snow and Samuels are

764
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: not for me. Samuel's does nothing for me, nothing, nothing.

765
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: He's too monitor And he's actually, outside of McFarland the

766
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: fastest of their backs. If you look at the forty

767
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: times from the combine, he ran like a four or

768
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: five two at the combine. He does not play the

769
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: four or five to speed. Their room is slow, yeah,

770
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: and it was really slow last year. And the thing

771
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: about him is it's great that he's versatile and that

772
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: he is a good route runner, but he knows he's

773
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: not the A SEC anymore. He's not when you hand

774
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: him the football, which is the primary job of a

775
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: running back. He is way below average in terms of

776
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: a receiver. Maybe he runs as good at routes and

777
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't, but as Darren Sprawls or James White or

778
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: one of those little guys. But he doesn't make anybody miss.

779
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if he gets open, he's he's a catching,

780
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: fall down guy after that, even doing his best thing.

781
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: And and I always say this about Snell, like I

782
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: respect the way he plays the game. I was impressed

783
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: last year that he got better on special teams and

784
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: stuck his nose in there and protection things he wasn't

785
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: asked to do in college. But his value is give

786
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: it to him twenty times, and his twentieth carries as

787
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: good as a second. If you're giving it him twenty times,

788
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: the defense is loving you like thanks, keep giving it

789
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: things I had. Uh you know again they I think

790
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: maybe on a different team, those guys would have more

791
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: value maybe, but not on this team. Like Benny Snell

792
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: was Bettest is backup. Yeah, okay, you know what I mean,

793
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: been back in the day with the fullback where Benny

794
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Snell with with you know, with what the the Seahawks

795
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: as they're running back, Yeah, that would work straight But

796
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: with this, with what the Steelers have on the offensive light,

797
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: no it doesn't work. No, it doesn't work. And you know,

798
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: because Wilson is such a great deep pass or you're

799
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of double high safeties. So if

800
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: I can bruise a seven man front with a Carson

801
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: or you know, and Snebl's my backup, sure somethingbou the

802
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Seelers are anymore, I mean, contrary to the history of

803
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: this team. They're not Jerome in a cloud of dust.

804
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: They're not the most and they're not built that way. There. No,

805
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: they're not there, and they're not at all. Maybe there,

806
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Maybe they draft the center out Obama and I was

807
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: watching clips on him. He's a nasty dude. I'm starting

808
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: to fall in love with him. The problem is he

809
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: got a torn a c L. He's got toward you know,

810
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: is he gonna be ready to start of the season.

811
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: Probably not. I don't know. I mean, you trot it

812
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: out there for those last two snaps, which I thought

813
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: was really dumb. But who knows. And we have less

814
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: medical information this year than ever. I mean, I don't know. Yeah,

815
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: somebody said something, I wrote something, and uh, they said something.

816
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: We don't. They just take the best center in the

817
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: first round, I said, during any centers where there's only one,

818
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: and if he has to check the box. Yeah, if

819
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I knew he was healthy, the more I watched him,

820
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: I would consider him at twenty four or seven. A

821
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: trade and an a c L is not the you know,

822
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. But he's not

823
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna be He's not gonna be ready to start the

824
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: season pro probably not. Probably not so Now now you're projective.

825
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Now you gotta sign somebody else that you know you are.

826
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna run up J. C. Hassan Our out there

827
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: for the first month of the season. But I mean,

828
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: he's I can forget the guy's name. I should remember it,

829
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: what if talking my head? Because he's a he's a

830
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: good player, and he's he's really fun to watch and

831
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I went out of my way to watch him recently

832
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: because he was nasty. He's considered a phenomenal leader, and

833
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: I think he is clearly the best center. He can

834
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: also play guardnon Dickerson, Yes, absolutely, um, but maybe we'll

835
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: get some positive medical stuff between now and then. I

836
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, Wolf played. Wolf doesn't have an

837
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: a c O anymore, right, He's perfectly It's everything everything

838
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: up for above the neck, everything below the neck. Fine gold.

839
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on going down this road. We have

840
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: so much draft coverage too. But if you're sitting at

841
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty four and you love Dickerson, chances are eight don't

842
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: need a center. You can trade five spots pick up

843
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: a third, you know, but somebody's gonna have somebody targeted

844
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: twenty four. They really want to get that's I mean,

845
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: you can want to trade out of a spot, but

846
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you Twenty four is not a great

847
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: spot to trade out of unless something falls, you know,

848
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: or somebody falls in love with one of the receivers

849
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: and he starts dropping a run on something, or yeah,

850
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: there won't be a quarterback people are trading up for obviously, right,

851
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: that's a tough neighbor to get out of. The end

852
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: of the first round is a lot not so bad

853
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: because people are trade up for the fifth round option,

854
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: but the late the mid is not. So I don't

855
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: know if that fifth round option is going to be

856
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: as valuable now though I would rather not have the

857
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: fifth round option moving forward. Why Well, because the fifth

858
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: round option is now guaranteed and it used to it

859
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: used to be those things were slotted in. So if

860
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: you had the thirty first pick in the first in

861
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: the first round, of the thirty second pick, and yeah,

862
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: that fifth round option is pretty valuable. Well now that

863
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: fifth that that thirty second guy can make as much

864
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: as the third round or the third pick in the draft.

865
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case before. I see what you're saying, Like,

866
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: when you pick up the the option before you knew

867
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: what it cost before you bought the and it wasn't

868
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't an exorbitant fee. Now all of a sudden,

869
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's as we talked about with with the

870
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: the the Edmonds and make a Fitzpatrick's situation last week.

871
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: If the guy's made a Pro Bowl, you're you're paying

872
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: transition money to him now, you know, if it's if

873
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: it's just a first round, you know it's just the

874
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: thirty second pick and he hasn't made the Pro Bowl. Yeah,

875
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I mean, if some teams are

876
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: valuing the fifth round option like they used to, I'll

877
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: moved to the beginning of the second round, and you

878
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: would hope by year four you already just extend them

879
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: on your terms as opposed to Yeah, teams are gonna

880
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: hate that. The more I think about it, Like it's different.

881
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna give Corey Davis with the option, we

882
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: regretted that it would have cost us acts. Well, now

883
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: if they would have given it to him under the

884
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: new rules he did, it would have been fifteen million dollars,

885
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed at the moment you make the moment you

886
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: make the offer. Yeah, that is hard and maybe more

887
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: teams are fewer teams will exercise. I think that's something

888
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: we may see this year. But we're gonna take a break.

889
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

890
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back,

891
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus. We'll get to

892
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly

893
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold,

894
00:45:43,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We are back. It's kind of Tennessee

895
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Football Focus, and Matt are I think we might have

896
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: picked the wrong contest to end our our line up

897
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: in LA because we scored a hundred and fifty four

898
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: point eight points, which we had. We had a decent day.

899
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones let us down. He got hurt in that game.

900
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: That didn't help. It was a high scoring week in general.

901
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: It was um but Josh Allen twenty seven point to

902
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: eight points from rushing. Yeah, and that's that's kind of

903
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: why we we made that move. He was the only

904
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: one of the of the four that could have a

905
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: good rushing day, and yeah he did. Uh but the

906
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Jones just twenty seven rushing yards four receipt, four receptions

907
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: for seven yards and a fumble. The fum you lose

908
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: a point. Yeah, so that hurt uh four net was

909
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: okay for us? Eighteen point four points. Yeah. In fact,

910
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: he might have been the highest scoring running back of yesterday.

911
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Uh Tyreek Hill was a monster, twenty nine point two points.

912
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs was you know, it was thirteen point seven points.

913
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Six catches for seventy seven yards. Really slow. Yeah, Davante

914
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Adams kind of the same, nine catches for sixty seven yards,

915
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: but did get in the end zone. So he had

916
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: twenty one point seven points to take that. Yeah, right right,

917
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: there's more points than I realized with them. Are are

918
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: big sleeper. Dawson Knox sixteen point two points, six catches

919
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: forty two yards and a touchdown. Six catches for Dawson

920
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: Knox and a touchdown. That's nice, Robert Tony and that

921
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: worked out okay. He got in the end zone as well.

922
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: We started him as our flex because he was cheap

923
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: at We paid d for Dawson Knox and thirty six

924
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: hundred for roberts On, you know, and we got twenty

925
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: eight point four points out of the two of them. Yeah,

926
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: as well as Kelsey did. I wonder if a lot

927
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: of people in the money had one of those two

928
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: as well. We will get to that in the second one. Um.

929
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: And then we had the Buccaneers defense, which scored nine points. Yeah,

930
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: they had sacks, an interception, fumble, recovery, so we needed

931
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: that to get into the end zone. We got. We

932
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: would have gotten into the money if that happens. But

933
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: was that the best year of the weekend? UM? I

934
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: would maybe Kansas City because they didn't allow with a

935
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of points, but box have any big plays and

936
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: got you know, got after Rodgers. So again we we scored.

937
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: We we missed finishing in the money by four points.

938
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: The number one team scored a hundred and nineties six

939
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: point seven four points with this lineup. Aaron Rodgers twenty

940
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: seven point eight four points, which was that's pretty much

941
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: a wash with what we had. Quarterbacks none of them

942
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: killed you, right right. Darryl Williams thirteen point one points.

943
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: That's a cheap he was forty eight hundred four net

944
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: eighteen point four points, so he avoided Aaron Jones. Aaron

945
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna be the actor for everybody. Yeah. Tyreek

946
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Hill twenty nine point two points. I'm sure he spent

947
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: on receivers. Davante Adams twenty one point seven points. Marquez

948
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Valdez Scantling, he talked about that when he's thirty nine dollars,

949
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: he's twenty four and a half points in Marquez Valdes

950
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: Scantling he started. Also started Dawson Knox at tight end.

951
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: It seems like I could be well under the budget,

952
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: but he he would be paid up for Travis Kelsey

953
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: as his flex. Kelsey had thirty nine point eight points.

954
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously pp Actually I'm looking. He also

955
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: started the Chiefs defense, which had six points. So we

956
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: made the right call at deep on defense because all

957
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: the defenses were similarly priced. Yeah, we did well on that. Yeah,

958
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: we made the right call there. So we just missed

959
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: their UM. I started the lineup of my own UM,

960
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: and I had some of those players in my lineup

961
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: that we just talked about. So my lineup I finished

962
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: nineteenth place overall out of six hundred people in the contest. Again,

963
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: we picked on We picked there on contest because we

964
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: we picked the contest with seventeen thousand people and we

965
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: finished in five thousand four d Our lineup. Have got

966
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: money in the contest you entered, uh is usually get

967
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: your cash. Let me see I think that I think

968
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: the scoring this week because it was so far now,

969
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: we would have finished outside the money in this one. Yeah,

970
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: we would have been let me see here, let me

971
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: get down here to where we were at. No, we

972
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: would have finished outside still outside of money. So I

973
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: started the lineup of Aaron Rodgers set four points again,

974
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: all all four quarterbacks were pretty sick, right, Darrell Williams

975
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: thirteen point one. I just the news that Edwards Hilaire

976
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: was going to play. I thought, you know what, people

977
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: are going to shut their people are gonna jump on him,

978
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: up on him, desperate for running back, desper for running backs.

979
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there because he's only forty eight hundred.

980
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: That might get me the money to get Travis Kelsey,

981
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: which is what I ended up joint. So I went

982
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: with Aaron Jones is my second back. If I had

983
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: gone that's that's that's what killed me, because if I

984
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: had gone with four net, I'd have finished in the

985
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: top five and you'd have more moneys bend elsewhere. And yeah,

986
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: but I guess I stuck with Tyreek Hill at twenty

987
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: nine point two points. Stefan digs at seven thousand. I

988
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: didn't kill you, It didn't kill me. But I went

989
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: with Markusb Scantling thirty dollars and got me twenty four

990
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: and a half points. I went with Kelsey at the

991
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: tight end position that was eight thousand. That's why I had.

992
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: I had to move off of Davante Adams there because

993
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: they were the same price. Scotty Miller is my flex

994
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's big. I got eleven points six points out

995
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: of him for thirty four hundred UM, which worked out well.

996
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: And then I went with the Bucks defense, so I

997
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: finished in nineteenth place. Um, I mean quarterbacks and defenses.

998
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: Box were a good one to have. Quarterbacks were all

999
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: about the squarterbacks for her wash. Yeah, it sounds like

1000
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: Valdes Scantling was a elite winner for you. For you

1001
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: know people, anybody who started vout as Scantling did well

1002
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: because if his his priced his price point was thirty

1003
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars and he produced twenty four and a

1004
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: half points, which is more than Chris Gobwin. It was

1005
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: more than Mike Evans, it was more. I mean, he

1006
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: way outperformed his price and I think Kelsey did too,

1007
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: even compared to all those stud receivers, the two he

1008
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: crushed him. Yeah, he was well worth every penny. So

1009
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: I assumed he was on a lot of winning combinations

1010
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: the winning The winning team in this one had a

1011
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: hundred ninety four point nine eight points, so they were

1012
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: pretty similar to the other pot. He started Alan, Darryl Williams,

1013
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette. Sure Williams was on a lot of

1014
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: money making teams too. Just for the box. Yeah, I

1015
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: mean you got again at forty eight hundred dollar running

1016
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: back and he was thirteen point one points, which was

1017
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: might have been the second highest scoring running back weekend

1018
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: or game from the weekend. I guess the running backs

1019
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: who wanted were four Nette and Williams. Those were the

1020
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Those were the two league. Um he had Tyreek Hill,

1021
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: He had Mike Evans at fifty eight hundred's ward. He

1022
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: also went with Chris Gobwin at fifty four hundred, So

1023
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: he doubled down, figuring, Okay, Antonio Brown's out. One of

1024
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: these guys is going to do well. Jerry Alexander's only

1025
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: a couple one of them. Then he had Kelsey. That

1026
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: was the key. With Valdes scantling as his flex in

1027
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers defense. So I wasn't that far. Yeah, I

1028
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: mean if I start four, if I pick up and

1029
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: go with four net instead of Jones Jones, you know

1030
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: that's that's twelve more points right there. Um. And then

1031
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: you know the Evans Gobwins situation. You know, both were

1032
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: fine though they didn't hurt anything. They were on because

1033
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: they were cheaper than the top three receivers they were. Yeah,

1034
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: and Evan's getting in school, you know he drops and passes, Yeah,

1035
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: because he only had I mean, he had three catches

1036
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: for fifty one yards. It's not like he left the

1037
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: world on Gobin was the guy who was with five

1038
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: catches for a hundred and ten yards and six rushing yards.

1039
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: Because you do get a bonus for a hundred receiving

1040
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: yards as well. Yeah, kind of like you get a

1041
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: bonus for three hundred passing yards. I was the Godwin

1042
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: and over receiving number for the for the game, Mahomes

1043
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: was the highest scoring quarterback of the week and we

1044
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: had twenty eight and a half points, but not against

1045
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: just to pay up for I think it was like

1046
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: an extra seven dollars between Adam or between Alan and

1047
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: Mahomes probably wasn't worth it in the end. It wasn't

1048
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: worth that one extra point that you got, and you

1049
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: could you could pay that out somewhere else. Um. But again,

1050
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: looking here at the UM, I'm looking at the second

1051
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: place lineup in that same league. He had Edwards Hilaire

1052
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: in four net. Edwards did okay, Yeah, he had. He scored,

1053
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: that saved his day because he had seven rushing yards

1054
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: in the game. If they give that ball to Darryl

1055
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Williams instead, UM, I wonder who will be more expensive

1056
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I mean, we'll talk about that

1057
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: on Friday. That's a good question. Um. I think a

1058
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: year or a week removed from his injury and a

1059
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: week off will make people be really excited about Edwards Hilaire.

1060
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: But if you ask Andy Reid, who do you trust,

1061
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: it might not be Edwards. It might not be might not.

1062
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: My other reasoning for going with with Williams was, I'm thinking, Okay,

1063
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: if they get down in the goal line, they're not

1064
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: running Edwards Hilaire. I don't think he's got a goal

1065
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: line carry. So he did yesterday, but that was in save.

1066
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: But he I think it was It was an opening

1067
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: night when the whole world was watching. He was over

1068
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: five on the gold line, had a big day. Other

1069
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: than that, I don't think he got a goal line

1070
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: carry since then until yesterday until yesterright, which go figure.

1071
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, he had about us scantling as well, and

1072
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: that guy had Cole Beasley in the lineup. Cole Beasley

1073
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: ended up with seven eight eight. He was actually there.

1074
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: He was actually the receiver to have from the Bills

1075
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: if you were going to go that route. Yeah, he

1076
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: was playing on a broken leg. Yeah that's gutsy. Yeah.

1077
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: John Brown didn't do a whole heck of a lot.

1078
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: Knox was a nice pick up though, Yeah, I mean

1079
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: we did okay. We just didn't get the right and

1080
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: that's the key to these things. You have to find

1081
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: that right secondary player. May Our lineup was like, Knox

1082
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: was a nice hit, but it kind of well, I

1083
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: guess not because Kelsey did so well. I was gonna say,

1084
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: I bet knoxes on a lot of winning teams, but

1085
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: it Kelsey is still more valuable for what you paid

1086
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: for him than what Knox you paid for. Yeah, I

1087
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: mean we did okay with the Knox. Robert Tony in

1088
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Coma and they both scored double digits, which is what

1089
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: you want. The killer was Aaron Jones. But if Aaron

1090
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: Jones does well, do we finish in the money? I

1091
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: don't think so because there were so many other people

1092
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: that that. You know, I've bet a lot of trends

1093
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: are the same as us were they. Okay, I'm not

1094
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: gonna do Kelsey. I really want to so I can

1095
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: have Jones because he's so much better than the other back,

1096
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: and then that's a losing for Well, here's the ownership

1097
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: on on our lineup. So Allen was at thirty eight

1098
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: point one, so he made Yeah, he may have been.

1099
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: I think everybody was looking at that rushing yards and going, okay,

1100
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: he's probably he's probably the number one one quarterback. Jones

1101
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: was at thirty eight point three, and it's a problem

1102
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: for for Net was forty seven point two, noticeably cheaper,

1103
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: notice cheaper. That's why he had almost half almost half

1104
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: the lineup said four net in theront up. Tyreek Hill

1105
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: was at forty five point seven. I guess if he

1106
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't put Jones as your one, you had to put

1107
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: four net because nobody else was stress right. Hill was

1108
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: forty five point seven percent ownership considered how many good

1109
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: receivers are were to pick from. Diggs was at sixty

1110
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: nine point four percent ownership. Yeah, not to be done.

1111
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Davante Adams was at seventy point one percent ownership. I

1112
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: mean those are three of the best. We went with

1113
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: all three of those guys. Yeah. Um, Dawson Dawson Knox

1114
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: was nine point two percent ownership. That was our that

1115
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: was our diamond, and that was our dart. Tanya was

1116
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: at thirty four point eight percent ownership. Was just kind

1117
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: of clearly the second tight end. Yeah, which I guess

1118
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: makes sense if you didn't buy up for Kelsey. I

1119
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: bet a lot of people have settled on Tanya, and

1120
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: then a lot of people did what we did and

1121
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,479
Speaker 1: we took the just give us a cheap defense. Thirty

1122
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: two point one percent ownership on the Bucks. That makes sense.

1123
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: That would have thought the quarterbacks and defenses were closed. Yeah, understandable. Um,

1124
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: if you look at Kelsey's ownership, it was sixty seven

1125
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: point three percent. That was way high, and he's super attractive,

1126
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: but it still shocks me the two thirds of the

1127
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: people building lineups thought I'm gonna spend this much because

1128
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: then your short somewhere else. Yeah. Um, you know, Beasley

1129
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: was at twenty one percent ownership. Uh, Devin Singletary was

1130
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: at thirty four point eight percent ownership and that didn't

1131
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: work out here four point six points. Rogers was Aaron

1132
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers was thirty two point eight. Um, it was hard

1133
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: to own Kelsey and Jones. Yes, And if you had

1134
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: to choose between those two, one was great. One. Well,

1135
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I had Kelsey and Jones in my lineup, but I

1136
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: had to scrimp, you know a little bit about or

1137
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: something like that, right right, Yeah, I mean it's it's

1138
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: just tough to get both those two in your line

1139
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: up because they were clearly number one at their position

1140
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: and one of them worked out from one did not

1141
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: one did not. It's gonna be interesting. We'll do that

1142
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: again before the Super Bowl. That'll be very difficult with

1143
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: just two teams. But yeah, you're yeah, you have to

1144
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: identify a guy like a Marquez Valdez Scantling, a guy

1145
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: like a Dawson Knox who you think is going to be. Yeah.

1146
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller was another one that that I stayed. He

1147
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: plays in this in this or you know who knows Hardman. Yeah,

1148
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: No one mentioned Hardman's name. Yeah, Harman could have could

1149
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: have been. Ah, He's the guy that I looked at

1150
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: because of the price point with him, and I thought, yeah,

1151
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: there's too many other miles to feed, whereas you know,

1152
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: a guy like Dawson Knox was clear. Yeah, I mean,

1153
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: and they don't cover the tight ends. Well, you know,

1154
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: obviously I wonder if Gronk will be more expensive than

1155
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: breat He shouldn't be. He should not be. I think

1156
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: he was this week because I looked at Bread as well.

1157
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a massive name differential, and it's

1158
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: been the guy that they've looked two more. Yeah, I've been.

1159
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Everybody in the world owns Kelsey this week. Oh yeah, Kelsey.

1160
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: Kelsey's gonna be in everybody's lineup. It's gonna be I mean,

1161
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm new to DFS, so with only two teams, there's

1162
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of the same lineups. Yeah, but

1163
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: that's why you have to kind of differentiate your self.

1164
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: They'll make it. They'll set the price points that you

1165
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: can't have all the stars. You know that that'll be

1166
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: the key. And from what I understand, like Kelsey this

1167
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: week is a lot cheaper than he is in week twelve,

1168
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: because otherwise, I mean most if you made a line

1169
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: up in week twelve, you couldn't have Digs, Kelsey Hill Adams,

1170
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: and I mean they have to make it so that

1171
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: you can fill a line up out. But if you're

1172
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna load up on all the stars

1173
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be starting Farrell Cooper spot, he's not

1174
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: even gonna play, So you know, are you willing to

1175
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: take a zero at a spot? I hope he catches

1176
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: two passes or because everybody else is gonna have those

1177
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: same guys too that couldn't need me a st Brown

1178
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: in your lineup. That's those are going to be the

1179
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: winners for you. Something odd that catches a touchdown his money, Ye,

1180
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller yesterday, and that's perfect example. Anyways, we're gonna

1181
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally.

1182
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

1183
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back with more Steeler talk right after

1184
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: this your two weeks about drive on your twenty four

1185
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1186
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Bill Lellie here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

1187
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. First of all, Matt

1188
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: Canada officially hired as a Steelers offensive coordiner. That is uh,

1189
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: that's a done deal. A lot of people are looking

1190
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: at the Steelers and thinking, well, how could they possibly

1191
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: contend next year when losing looking at who they're gonna

1192
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: lose in free agency, like everybody, every other team is

1193
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: going to return completely intact. Nobody else is gonna lose anything.

1194
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna gain stuff in the off season, and only

1195
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers are gonna lose players. I love Stealer Nation.

1196
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: I was a fan way before I was an analyst,

1197
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: and I waighed my share of black and gold towels

1198
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: and I used to write chucking the old letters about

1199
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: how he should trade from Marcus Allen and so I've

1200
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: been on that side of the fence, folks. But it

1201
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: blows me away with how much this city only sees

1202
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: one team. I don't understand it. And maybe that's because

1203
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I covered the whole league for so long or whatever.

1204
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: So many teams are gonna get hit really really hard

1205
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: this year, including the division, and are are the Steelers

1206
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the favorite during the Super Bowl next year?

1207
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I trust this front office

1208
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: to find some guys were more so than other teams,

1209
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna be alone with losing more than

1210
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: they gain. In fact, the Ravens today released their their

1211
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl snapper long snapper um and it was a

1212
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: salary cap related move. That's why they let Ingram go.

1213
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: That's why they let go because they've got they don't

1214
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of cap space. I think it's like

1215
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars, a lot of things that need to

1216
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: try to I'm gonna run you down a list here

1217
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: of the potential Ravens free agents and I'm here on

1218
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: spot track and a lot of these guys have the

1219
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: market value blue thing next to which means they're gonna

1220
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: make bookoo bucks. That's what that means. When they have

1221
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: the thing that says market value means they're they're going

1222
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: to be uh desired. Matthew Jude on his money, Yeah,

1223
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: Yannick and go Way maybe more than either one of

1224
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: those two. Willie Snead he's get paid. I mean, aren't

1225
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: you if he's your second leading receiver? The Shaw he's

1226
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: not old either. Ingram who they cut, Derrek Wolfe who

1227
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: they signed this year of his quality starter, Matthew Skura,

1228
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: who's their starting center, Uh Griffin, they cut, Anthony Levine

1229
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: who they brought back this year. Chris Moore is one

1230
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: of their wide receivers. Taius Bowser another one of their

1231
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, Parnell McPhee another one of their outside linebackers.

1232
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: That's that's now four outside guys on the edge. Morgan Cox,

1233
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: their long snapper, has gone. D J. Fluker played a

1234
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: lot this years of card not necessarily one of them

1235
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: to you know, Trueman Williams, he's done. Dez Bryant. Jihad

1236
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: Ward is another one of their defensive ends who plays

1237
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Justin ellis a defensive tackle. Yeah, depth

1238
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: guys important again, if you if you let wolf walk,

1239
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: you know you need some somebody has to fill a

1240
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: spot's three pounders on defense that are leaving, and all

1241
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: your edge guys. Jordan Richards is a strong safety. D'

1242
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Thomas another one of the wide receivers of Gus

1243
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: Edwards on that list. And Ingram's already gone, and Ingram's

1244
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: already gone, uh, and then there's some other guys there

1245
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: that are down the roster type guys. But you want

1246
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: to extend Lamar, and you want to extend Lamar, which

1247
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: is which is going to cost you a lot of money.

1248
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, it does not fix your

1249
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: offensive line. Leaving Scurra and Fluker leaving do not fix

1250
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: your offensive line, No, absolutely not. And they've drafted a

1251
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: couple and Stanley coming back is huge, and you put

1252
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown back at right tackle, but they need an

1253
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman or two. Considering the guys that you know,

1254
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: if you if you keep on your own, then you

1255
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: need one. If you don't keep any, you better ringing too,

1256
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: and that doesn't fill your edge rusher spots, not at

1257
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: all for them. And you need a number one receiver,

1258
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: and you need a number one at least in what

1259
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: we saw on the they were the worst passing team

1260
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: in the league. They threw from the least amount of

1261
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: yards in the league this year. What do you think

1262
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: about the Lamar contract. I mean, you can structure it

1263
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: so it doesn't kill you this year, but it's you know,

1264
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: if you do it this offseason, you're gonna have a

1265
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: huge signing bonus and you'll spread it over a large stretch,

1266
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: but it might not kill you this year, but it's

1267
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna hurt you in future years to go get guys, right.

1268
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're in a tough spot. Looking at

1269
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: the Browns. I know people think, well, the Browns are

1270
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: in a great spot. They want to they want to

1271
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: give a new deal to to Mayfield. They're talking the

1272
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: same way. And that's less of a no brainer to

1273
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: me than Allan or Lamar. You know what I mean

1274
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: That he might not They may be unhappy about that

1275
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: he played while down a stretch, right, Uh, but they're

1276
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: free agents. Olivier Vernon, I bet he's not back and

1277
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: that leaves a big hole. That leaves a hole Kevin

1278
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: Johnson who is essentially their third number three guarded, Terrence Mitchell,

1279
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: who was their nickel, Karl Joseph, one of their starting safeties. Wow,

1280
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 1: it's a lot of secondary snaps that could be leaving

1281
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: b J. Goodson, who was their leading tackler this season.

1282
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: None of those guys are great players, but they all

1283
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: they were best they had this year. Best They had

1284
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: Kendall Lamb, who was essentially their their backup both tackle spots,

1285
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: playing snaps that somebody might give him a shot to

1286
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: be in starter next yeah, you know he's not. He's

1287
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: not secret anymore. Anderson Sendejo, who started a free safety

1288
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: for them all season, stinks But still again, it's the

1289
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: same conversation. Defensive back that played a lot of snaps

1290
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: out of necessity, Malcolm Smith, who was one of the

1291
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: other starting linebackers. I mean their whole backs hold back

1292
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: seven then back seven wasn't any good. But none of

1293
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: those guys are under contracts. He got to replace them.

1294
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: You got Ward in the two l s. You kids,

1295
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: you've drafted high in the last two drafts. Yeah, you know,

1296
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: and Greedy Williams can't stay healthy. And Grant Helpt's ever

1297
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: plays na Uh, Larry Hugen job he's gonna get he's

1298
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: gonna catch yeah. Uh. Cody Parkey their place kicker. Kickers

1299
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: aren't cheap. Chard Higgins their number two receivers this year,

1300
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna make five or six, don't you think. No. Yeah,

1301
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll be a starter, but I

1302
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: bet it will be a top three. Somebody'll give him

1303
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah. The Patriots could user Stard Higgins. Yeah right,

1304
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Uh could Darrel Hodge, Taiwan Taylor,

1305
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: Vincent Taylor, Marvin Hall. These are guys they signed. Michael

1306
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: Dunn played some snaps for them down the stretch. Um,

1307
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the guys are there, and

1308
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: there's some other guys on there, but there, you know,

1309
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: it's still a lot of those names you mentioned aren't like,

1310
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're gonna lose b J. Goodson. We

1311
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: can't overcome that. But that's the best they got. That's

1312
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: the best they got. Like, and you're not getting holes

1313
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: if they're gone. Yeah, it's not like you're gonna be

1314
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: able to go out and you know, just replace these

1315
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: guys on the open market. What do you think they

1316
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: do with O'Dell? I know he's kind of expensive. He

1317
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: can't trade him. I don't think you can get much

1318
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: in return. He's not gonna get you two picks to

1319
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: fill two of those needs. They do need a downfield guy.

1320
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what they could do with him.

1321
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think his career is not shot.

1322
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: But he's not cheap. No, I mean that's the thing.

1323
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: It's I don't he might be shot too. He very

1324
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: well could be. I mean he doesn't ever stay healthy. Yeah,

1325
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 1: and real quick with the Bengals. Um, and they have

1326
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of needs, all kinds of needs. Trey Wayne's Yeah,

1327
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: Geno Atkins, DJ Reader, What if Atkins retires? No, that's

1328
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: your cap hit? Never mind Reader is signed. Yeah, so

1329
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm on the wrong we Gino is that big a

1330
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: cap hit? I wonder if they cut him, which opens

1331
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: a spot right then you then you can get a

1332
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: whole different conversation again, then it opens a three technique hole,

1333
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna needless to say, the Bengals,

1334
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: it's hard to fill as main needs as they have

1335
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: in one awesome Okay, here's the Bengals. A. J. Green gone,

1336
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: Sean Williams he's been okay for them, play lost naps

1337
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: over the years, John Ross, he's gone gone. McKenzie Alexander

1338
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: and receiver looks like a strength. But now you only

1339
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: have two said four, Yeah, Mackenzie Alexander, m hm, he

1340
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: could be gone. Yeah, Kevin Hubers their punter, William Jackson,

1341
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: who's their other? You can't lose both McKenzie Alexander and

1342
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: William Jackson. Absolutely not. Carl Lawson's name. About to mention two,

1343
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: which is maybe two of their three best defensive players,

1344
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: Alex Erickson who's been a valuable guy for them as

1345
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: a region. I mean, with those other two receivers leave

1346
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: and you'd like to keep Harrison Brandon Wilson another starter

1347
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: at the start, seen some playing time. Alex Redman is

1348
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: a guard for them. He's yeah, I've seen snaps. Randy

1349
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Bullock their place kicker, hers and punters are easy to overlook. Yeah, him,

1350
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: you don't. If you don't have one, now you're in trouble.

1351
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like he might be easy to resign, but

1352
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna make more needed last year. Uh, Josh binds

1353
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: him when the inside linebackers Christian Covington and Mike Daniels.

1354
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: So you know, if you if you do part ways

1355
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: with with there's three or four names there that you'd

1356
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: love to keep and would be a problem if they lost.

1357
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: But here's the big one. We haven't talked about him

1358
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: at Carl Lawson. Yeah, right, so that's a huge one. Yeah,

1359
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's used him him Indoor Jackson. You got

1360
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: like two or three good defensive players now right, you know,

1361
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: you go from having three to none to none, even

1362
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: four to one or you know, four to two. I mean,

1363
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: and you've got to thank priority number one is a

1364
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: line you do get mixed in back and I think

1365
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: Burrow will be better in the second year, but he's

1366
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: not healthy as we speak. And when Willie be and

1367
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: your linebackers to really bad even though you've thrown a

1368
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: love graft picks there. And you know Atkins could be

1369
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: a Cap casualty or ain't what it used to be

1370
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: as in a minimum, they they need ten starters, yeah,

1371
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: just off the top of my head. I mean they

1372
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: probably need to alignment three technique and Edge might need

1373
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: more than two alignment. You might need two more than two.

1374
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: And I'm and i'm including you know their their UFAs is.

1375
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: You know, you could resign your own and eliminate one

1376
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 1: of them, but it's hard to go in the offseason.

1377
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: Need ten starters or dozen starters or so. I mean

1378
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: that's about where they're at. Yeah, And I don't care

1379
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: how much money you have. Are people gonna want to

1380
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati, right, so you end up having to

1381
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: overpay them because it's a miserable situation. I mean, do

1382
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: they cover Geo Bernard or some of these guys that

1383
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: are making okay money. I mean, I don't know all

1384
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: these Caps situations. They'll be a long list of easy

1385
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: cap casualties that some of these teams have. But to

1386
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: your point, all these teams are in the same boat. Yeah,

1387
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: and you know it's so it doesn't all happen in

1388
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: a vacuum. It's not just as well. The Steelers are

1389
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna lose these five guys, and oh my god, they

1390
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: can't compete without those. These other teams aren't gonna they're

1391
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: up against it too. They're not all gonna end up

1392
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: on the Browns and you're gonna be playing against them.

1393
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean the Browns. The Browns have

1394
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of cap space. They don't have a

1395
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: great deal of capt not enough to to sign a

1396
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: whole new back seven. And Baker's getting a contract soon, right. Yeah.

1397
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, the most aggressive of the three.

1398
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: At some point you're gonna have to pay Chub Yes,

1399
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will. They've already paid Hunts. Yeah.

1400
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: Who do you think of those teams will be the

1401
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: most aggressive adding from outside the organization? I would think

1402
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: the Bengals would want to, but that's a tough sell.

1403
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: I think the Browns will want to. They've been that's

1404
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: kind of their style. But you know, when you when

1405
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: you look at um, they should sign the linebacker and

1406
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: defensive back. I would roll with the offense. They could

1407
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: have done that, though they like they let Kirksey go

1408
01:12:53,520 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: and they let uh Joe Schobert to go because it's

1409
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: a Brown's like move. They cut Joe Hayden. You don't

1410
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: think Joe Hayden would have helped you. You don't think

1411
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert would have helped you. It wasn't better than

1412
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: those guys you were running out there this year, ye

1413
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 1: would have been really useful. Um, I would invest in Ojenoby.

1414
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: Of the guys that are I'll put you'd be the

1415
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: one that I don't really want to keep. But there's

1416
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot of corners and how are you going to

1417
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: build a whole secondary? The Browns are are estimated right now,

1418
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: this is this is estimating the salary kept coming into

1419
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty million. They have nineteen point five

1420
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: million in cap space. So they're not they're not flush

1421
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: with cash. They don't have a time I mean they're

1422
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: now you're paying the miles Garretts to the world. I

1423
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: mean the Ravens are at nineteen point four They've got

1424
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: the you know, second most cash, but it's not that much.

1425
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: That's not that once you start, once you you know,

1426
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: once you sign an edge rusher, once you you know,

1427
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: let's say they franchise they if they franchise one of

1428
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: those guys that franchise dock Way, I guess because you

1429
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: just franchise you on, you can't afford to franchise you

1430
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: on a second time. Well that would be a second

1431
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: one for the dock Way to right, that's true, Chise,

1432
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: that's true. So you can't really afford to do that

1433
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: with either one of those guys. So they're gonna go there,

1434
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 1: go up in Maryland. You went to Maryland. Maybe you're

1435
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: walking and working on a deal with him, but no

1436
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: way to assign both he can't and if you don't

1437
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,879
Speaker 1: have a highsmith waiting around, and even uh yeah, even uh,

1438
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: let's say you get him, you signed him to a

1439
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: four year, eighty million dollar deal, that's gonna eat up

1440
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of your camp space. I mean, contradicted to

1441
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. If we knew all these teams,

1442
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: like we knew the Steelers, they probably have a McDonald, right,

1443
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: they probably have some kind of planet place. But it's

1444
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: not like they're gonna be jumping into free agency here

1445
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: and just go, whoa, We'll take one of these and

1446
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: two of those and five of those. Like people are saying, well,

1447
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: my Bud's gonna sign with the Ravens. No, he's not.

1448
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: They can't afford And you can't afford that. Why wouldn't

1449
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: they keep you on at the same price or less

1450
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: or in that neighborhood. Yeah? Right, And I'm sure like

1451
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: clay Is Campbell, they can restructure or cut or somebody's

1452
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's others. They just resigned Stanley, maybe they

1453
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: can extend. I don't know that you're on. I don't know.

1454
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if the extending class Campbell at thirty

1455
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: five years older, we're you know, doing But then he

1456
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: already lost Wolf to like Night, both of those defensive lines.

1457
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: You know, is that men that you went out and

1458
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: paid for in free agency? Now you don't have either one.

1459
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: Brandon Williams is making decent money. Is he's worth it

1460
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: at this point? He opted out this year, Like, yeah,

1461
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: that'll be tough. I mean, it comes out of the

1462
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: old adage. And we talked about this with all these quarterbacks,

1463
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: like Lamar is gonna have to carry the team even

1464
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: more than he is now. Yeah, these are said and done. Yeah,

1465
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: I mean it just is. Especially, I mean you're not

1466
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: dynamic offensively. He's just you know two years ago, yes

1467
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: you were. You caught everybody by by storm. He took

1468
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: everybody by storm. I should say, people adjusted in your

1469
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: in the second years, full time year as a starter. Now,

1470
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: what can you do to get better? In the last

1471
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: month of season, they rolled over a bunch of bad defenses.

1472
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: And that's something you can take away from him. I mean,

1473
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: there's so hard to play against, but when the chips

1474
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: are down, you need to throw the ball on third

1475
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: and eight or in a game againsts or these type

1476
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: of the Bills, the running games anymore and running game. Yeah.

1477
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: Like I went on with the Stan Savereign earlier today

1478
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: and he said, well, the Steelers will clearly be number

1479
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,480
Speaker 1: clearly number three in the division. I'm like, are they

1480
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, because they just won the division. I

1481
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: saw that this year. Um, yes, they didn't win the

1482
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: playoff game against the Browns, but they still swept the

1483
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: Ravens and split with the Browns in a regular season.

1484
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: And they split with the Browns in a regular season

1485
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: because they really didn't you know, play that game woff

1486
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: game too. I mean, it wasn't like the Browns came

1487
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: in and blew their doors off, Like which franchise do

1488
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: you trust to get it right? I mean in terms

1489
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: of who's gonna have the better draft class, who's gonna

1490
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: prepare what you know and pay the let's the other

1491
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: part of this. Now, the Browns are they aren't picking

1492
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: seventh anymore overall? Yeah, yeah, right right there, They're gonna

1493
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 1: be picking below the Steelers. Actually, Ravens are used this stuff. Yeah,

1494
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: I trust I trust the Steelers and Ravens front offices

1495
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: much more so than I trust the Browns absolutely, And

1496
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with their coaching staff, and I think they're

1497
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. This is uncharted waters. Yeah,

1498
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: this is not you know, and all of a sudden

1499
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: you made the playoffs and you're picking or twenty six

1500
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: something like that. It does not get easy from here.

1501
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: And now you're now you're not getting old. I'll just

1502
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: have I'll take the best offensive tack. I'll take. You know,

1503
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: that guy might not be a starter in your near one, right,

1504
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's tough.

1505
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: A little different, and heays we're gonna take a break.

1506
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to

1507
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Will be back

1508
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: right after this. Your tunes about drive on your home

1509
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Doo dooo

1510
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: dood do dotoo in food bater doon in food, bater

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: doon in food, ba doo doo in food, bater doo

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01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: in bood bater doo in mood ba doo doo. Man.

1513
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to finish up on the continuing on this

1514
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: subject of the salary cap stuff, because again people in

1515
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's are assuming that the armageddon is coming, the sky

1516
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: is falling. Um, I'm looking here at spot track and

1517
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: they're estimating again the cap coming in at a hundred

1518
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 1: and eighty million in change. I think it's going to

1519
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: come in higher than that. But if that's the case,

1520
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm looking here. Effectively, what would happen would be eighteen

1521
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: of the teams in the league would have to essentially

1522
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: to to make any roster moves in the off season's

1523
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: sign anybody would have to cut guys eighteen of the

1524
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 1: half league and I bet a lot of them don't

1525
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 1: have the massive amount of cap space the Steelers have

1526
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: a year from now, right, that's sure. They don't even

1527
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: the numbers in terms of cap space. Jacksonville has seventy

1528
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: four point five million dollars in cap space. That's the most.

1529
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. But these other teams, if you, if I'm

1530
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: looking at the other end of that, the Saints are

1531
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: at minus a hundred and five million. There's a hundred

1532
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: and seventy hundred eighty million dollar difference there between the two. So, yeah,

1533
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: the bad teams are worse than what the good teams

1534
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: are sitting at. Yeah, the Eagles are sitting there at

1535
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: minus fifty one point eight million dollars. The Steelers or

1536
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: the Falcons are at minus thirty three million dollars, the

1537
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: Steelers at minus twenty eight million dollars. The Rams are

1538
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: at minus twenty seven point seven million, the rate the

1539
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: Packers are at minus twenty seven million. All those teams

1540
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: needs stuffed too. Yeah, you know, like the Saints were

1541
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: sitting pretty but they don't have a starting quarterback in

1542
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: that equation. Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill, that's what they got,

1543
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: that's what they got right. Um, everybody's in trouble. Yeah,

1544
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: every team in the league. The Houston Texans, who have

1545
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: no draft picks, are seventeen point six million dollars over

1546
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: the cap. They have no way of getting better. Basically,

1547
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs are eight teen million dollars over

1548
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: the cape. Wow, I wonder what they do. I'm like,

1549
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,919
Speaker 1: who can you get rid of out of that equation?

1550
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins And I don't know. Maybe, well, he's in

1551
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: the free agent Yeah, he might be done by now,

1552
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's not getting Frank Clark or you know. Yeah,

1553
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: in your offensive lines in shambles examples, you're picking thirty

1554
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: one or thirty two and right, I mean Eric Fisher

1555
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: tour as Achilles yesterday. Yeah, he won't be ready for this.

1556
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: He won't be ready to start to see, you don't

1557
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: need the left tackle. You probably need left tackle. And

1558
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned a couple of times. The teams that have

1559
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: money as usual are the bad ones. Maybe the Colts

1560
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: are a little different. Patriots probably stand alone in terms

1561
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: of just their ability to attract players. I don't have

1562
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: good or bad, but they're their own entity. But these

1563
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: are the worst teams in the league. I mean, can

1564
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: the Ken urban Meyer and Robert Salah and those front

1565
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: offices convince people to take it's gonna be different this time.

1566
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be different. You know, like if you're going,

1567
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: if you're a free agent, you're going, you're looking at

1568
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars tvor Lawrence is appealing, but I've never

1569
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: seen him in it. Say, Okay, what's different this time? Right?

1570
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: Because you signed a bunch of guys in two thousand, fifteen,

1571
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen two more than they were worth one one

1572
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: see eason with them, and then you tore it down.

1573
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: Then you started cutting guys like crazy, Yeah, right, right right,

1574
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: because you missed on everything else. You wouldn't build properly. Um,

1575
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: you would think that the teams with money, we'll be

1576
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: able to get guys at a discount because there's there's

1577
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: fewer homes for these players and more people are gonna

1578
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: get cut. But if the homes still aren't that attractive,

1579
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: might these teams just take a one Might these players

1580
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: just okay, you cut me, you won't you resign me

1581
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: to a one year deal or three quarters of what

1582
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: we were at, and then we'll revisited a year from

1583
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 1: now both sides understand, Like even some of the teams

1584
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: that have cap space, like the Cowboys have seventeen million

1585
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space, don't have a quarterback. He's gonna

1586
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: be doubled that himself, right. I mean, I'm sure they'd

1587
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: like to even franchise them so they don't have to

1588
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: fight with other teams. Well they can't. Yeah, we talked

1589
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: about the Ravens with their nineteen point four Well that

1590
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: that's with no outside linebacker or no edge rushers and

1591
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: offensive line needs like the Dallas need to cut guys

1592
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: like Tyron Smith. You know, later franchise players have something

1593
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: wrong with them. You know, at the moment, there's gonna

1594
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: be crazy people getting let go. That's why I land somewhere.

1595
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: That's why I believe that, you know, the league for

1596
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: the good of the league. And I know when we

1597
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: talked to Bob Labriola a couple of weeks ago, Well,

1598
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: you gotta convince these other teams there's still the minority. Though,

1599
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: there's there the minority. I mean, if you look at

1600
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,839
Speaker 1: the teams that were in the championship game this weekend

1601
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it was Buffalo, it was Kansas City,

1602
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Green Bay. That's revenue sharing. It's best

1603
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in baseball for example, right, you know

1604
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: there's no Yankees in there, There's no you know, Dodger. Yeah.

1605
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: The markets are are you know, some of the smallest.

1606
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay is the smallest market in the country that

1607
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: has a pro has a ProTeam any sport. Yeah. Um,

1608
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: you know that that's that comes about because of revenue sharing.

1609
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: So convincing these other owners, you know, I know, Bob said, well,

1610
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: you gotta convince the you know, the Jaguars, and you

1611
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: could have Convid Shod Khan that this is a good

1612
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: thing for the league. If we raise that capital, his

1613
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: pocketbook won't be much convincing. It shouldn't. I mean, maybe

1614
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: it hurts their chances of winning a little bit quite frankly.

1615
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I'm sitting here, I'm like, Okay,

1616
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: I got seventy five point five million. I guess seventy

1617
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: four point five million, But you're gonna tell me that

1618
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: I can have ninety million exactly right, right? Yeah, okay,

1619
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: so a buyer just as it's still relative, I'm still

1620
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: into it. I I hate talking economics because I don't

1621
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: know anything. But I do know that this league has

1622
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 1: been unbelievably successful that if you went to a bank

1623
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: and said this is our business model and this is

1624
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: our history, they'd be like, I'll give you a loan

1625
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: for you could buy Thailand and you could buy Egypt.

1626
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: You know, because it's the best business model in the world.

1627
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: That if they act as their own bank and just say,

1628
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: let's just keep it a two million, we'll make up

1629
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: for it, they would be fine. Yeah. I mean, every

1630
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: one of these owners can handle it, especially if you

1631
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: knew that they're at least going to be people in

1632
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: the sea, which I think we know at this point.

1633
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: Next year, maybe it won't be full to capacity, but

1634
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: there'll be people in every stadium next year. There's gonna

1635
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: be people in every stadium next year. The television contracts

1636
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: are going to be you know, again, if you look

1637
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: at the TV deals or or the TV ratings. We

1638
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: haven't seen the ratings for yesterday's games yet. I bet

1639
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: they're pretty darn good. I bet they were two of

1640
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: the most watched events, not even just sporting events, just events,

1641
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: most watch things. Yeah, I bet there were more eyes

1642
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: on those two games yesterday than any other show that's

1643
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: been on TV in the last six months, eight months,

1644
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they blew away NHL, NBA Finals, you know,

1645
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 1: all the World Series. Yeah, there was a thing a

1646
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I looked it up and somebody

1647
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: somebody tweeted something out that the NHL Finals, it was

1648
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: the highest rated NHL Finals ever. Good they're doing. So

1649
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: I went and I looked to see where that would

1650
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: rank in terms of NFL games. It didn't even make

1651
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: the top hundred, just regular or season. Right here we go.

1652
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Jags Bears does just as well. Yeah, they're nothing to

1653
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: play for. It's I mean, it's a golden goose, it

1654
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: really is. And so the only way they they screw

1655
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: this up is by not increasing the cap, even if

1656
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: it means we're quote breaking the formula. I'm not even

1657
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: saying increasing, I'm saying not increasing the cap from where

1658
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 1: it's at this year, but increasing it from a hundred

1659
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: and eighty million. I think you can get the two hundred.

1660
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. I think at least you

1661
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: keep the status quo and say, okay, we're gonna put it.

1662
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it. A hundred million was a D

1663
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: point four million this year. I was thinking it was

1664
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: two D that number. It was close to two D

1665
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, all these teams signed, these people thinking

1666
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: that's where it was gonna be too, Like you're throwing

1667
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: everybody a curveball with how they built there. And I realized,

1668
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: we're in a it's a pandemic and things happen, but

1669
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: you're the NFL. You don't have to worry about this,

1670
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: Like you're not the You're not the NHL. Twenty million

1671
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: times thirty two teams is a drop in the bucket

1672
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 1: to billion dollar franchises that you know you're getting back. Yeah,

1673
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: So I don't like talking. So I'm just I'm not

1674
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: in a situation here where I think the sky is

1675
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: falling with any of this. But I hope they don't

1676
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,440
Speaker 1: screw it up and say, well, we're gonna do one

1677
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: and because that's what the number, that's what the formula

1678
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: told us, and then we're gonna live by our forum.

1679
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think either side once that,

1680
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: I really don't. He wins, there'd be way too many

1681
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: people changing teams. I just think the face of the

1682
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: league would change more than it should and it would

1683
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: hurt the product it would definitely hurt the product. I

1684
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. So they would

1685
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: obviously hit home to those Steelers too. Yeah. Um, I'm

1686
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: not even looking at this from a Steeler Center situation.

1687
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll figure it out. They'll figure it out

1688
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: better than most teams do. Yeah. I just think the

1689
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: league as a whole could take a hit. And this

1690
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: worried me more than not having some people in the stands.

1691
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: CAP to me, is my biggest fear since the whole

1692
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: COVID thing hit. I mean, does anybody really want to

1693
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: see the Saints have to trade away their six Pro

1694
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: Bowl guys like Michael Thomas and Cameron Jordan's And I

1695
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: don't even know that because of the way I didn't

1696
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: get you there, because of the way NFL on trucks

1697
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: are structured. I don't know if that get that gets

1698
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: you word to where you need to be because the

1699
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: team that's trading him still has to take that hit

1700
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: on this on the signings trade, the ram checks and

1701
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: Lattimore's and the guys you're about to sign, you know

1702
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I haven't, but I haven't looked

1703
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: at the Saints picture from its brutal, but they would

1704
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: run out a completely different team. Next year, they're on

1705
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: a completely different team. You know they're gonna have a

1706
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: different quarterback, So be it. I mean, that's the bed,

1707
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: that's the life, you know, with quite like six rookie

1708
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: free agent starters, because that that's what they'd have to do.

1709
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: There would be a someone of a scab line up,

1710
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: I would think. I mean, just looking, I'm gonna call

1711
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: their their lineup or their caps situation here, I mean

1712
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: right now, Taysom Hill is the only one under contract.

1713
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean you might have to trade Kamara for a

1714
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: third round. We got Breeze is actually under contract, so

1715
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: he comes off that. Yeah, his cap at his thirty

1716
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: six point one million, but cutting him it still leaves

1717
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: you with twenty two point six million in dead cap

1718
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: space in retiring, the same as cutting right Cam in Jordan.

1719
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: If you get rid of him, his cap hits eighteen

1720
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: point nine. If you get rid of him, his dead

1721
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: his dead cap is sixteen point nine. The only game

1722
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: two million dollars by by getting rid of this guy.

1723
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: One of the top ten defense players in the league,

1724
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: so cutting him makes no sense. Michael Thomas is an

1725
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: eight teen point eight million dollar cap hit. If you

1726
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: cut him, it's twenty three million against your cap, so

1727
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: you actually lose cap space and your number one and

1728
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 1: your number one Torn Armstead, their left tackle, it was

1729
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: tremendous sixteen point two million dollar cap hit. If you

1730
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 1: cut him, it's still on nine point six million dollar capits.

1731
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: So I mean some of it. You could be like

1732
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: they were irresponsible for all these contracts, and we know

1733
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: that team has gone all in at the end of

1734
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Reeze's career. They're the most aggressive spenders in the league,

1735
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: so they deserve a downturn, right, But they thought they

1736
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: were playing with a different deck of cards too, Yeah,

1737
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean what I mean, it's just like people.

1738
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: So I could trade Andres Pete. He counts eleven point

1739
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: six million against their cap. If they get rid of him,

1740
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: it's nineteen point four. You're you're losing cap space by

1741
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: getting rid of these guys. Your starting guard, the Mario

1742
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: Davis is the same way, ten point eight million dollars

1743
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: against the cap. He costs you seventeen point four if

1744
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: you do something with him. So what can they get

1745
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: rid of? The real assets? I mean, like Marcus Williams

1746
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: is a free agent. No chance he comes, no chance, right,

1747
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore is a straight ten point two four million

1748
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: that off. Okay, yeah, he's gone. Trade him for a

1749
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: third round pick the Jags or whatever. Emmanuel Sanders saves

1750
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: you six million dollars in cap space. He's gone. He's gone.

1751
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Of course those guys are gone. But a lot of

1752
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: these guys, Malcolm Lattimore is one of the most. You know,

1753
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: saw it after corners in the league. Like if I'm

1754
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: the Jags, I can get that guy for a third

1755
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: round pick, and right because people know you've got to

1756
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: get rid of him. It's like it's just it just

1757
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: doesn't you know. Alvin Kamara has got a five million

1758
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: dollar capit next year. I am reading this right, het

1759
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: five million dollar capit next year. If you caught him,

1760
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: it's twenty nine point five million dollars against your cap.

1761
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You can't do anything with these guys. And Jordan's and

1762
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Pete and what's the face of the left tackle. They're

1763
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Saints. Yeah, you're gonna lose money. They cut them,

1764
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 1: so they're coming back, for sure. They're coming. It means

1765
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: to leave you much else they had this, I mean

1766
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: they saw that this was coming. Of course they went

1767
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: all in and they jumped into deep end. But they

1768
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: also didn't know it will be this degree. They didn't know. Yeah,

1769
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: they they're thinking, okay, it's gonna come into you know,

1770
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: two D fifteen million. We can do some things here

1771
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: and you know, make this, make this work. And even

1772
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 1: two D they'd be in trouble. But so be it.

1773
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the bed they made, right. They knew

1774
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: that they wanted to go all in with Breeze while

1775
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: he was still right, and they went very far. And

1776
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't reach their goal in the last

1777
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: couple of years, but they want a lot of games,

1778
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: and you know, so be it. That's the price pay.

1779
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna rebuild. Wow, what's interesting, Like you said,

1780
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: those five or six core veterans that have to come back,

1781
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: the Camaras and pets that are good players, So the

1782
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Saints are gonna have good starters, but they have to

1783
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: cut everything else. Then yeah, you're gonna have all the

1784
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna this core five guys and nothing around them,

1785
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: and the guy next to them is going to be

1786
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. Were a rookie free agent that

1787
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 1: you it's nothing. Yeah right, that's all you can afford.

1788
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: That's all you can afford. And you can't even that's

1789
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: not a product that's good for the league. It's a

1790
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 1: terrible thing to watch, you know, tomorrow with no blocking,

1791
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: that type of thing, or Winston with no blocking and

1792
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,879
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is your only pass catch or worth anything

1793
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: or you know. Wow. And the other thing about them,

1794
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: which again is their fault, they only had like three

1795
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: draft picks last year. They don't have anybody waiting in

1796
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: the wings. I mean, they traded up for Troutman and

1797
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, all their early picks, they don't have any

1798
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: mid round guys just to plug in for a stop

1799
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: gap linebacker. And it's a very top heavy it is.

1800
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: And they can't afford that eight year veteran linebacker that's

1801
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: not quite good enough to be a starter that you

1802
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 1: can get cheap, you know, that signed a one year

1803
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: deal league minimum. They can't do that either. Yeah yeah,

1804
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: So I mean, is that a situation that every I mean,

1805
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: I get it. They made their bed, made their bad

1806
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville is not crying for them, don't get me wrong.

1807
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: But it's not good for league, right, and the Eagles,

1808
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: the same way the Eagles, And yeah, I mean these

1809
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: teams that are grossly over that number are are going

1810
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: to be in trouble, and you're just giving away players

1811
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: at a fire sale. That's what I don't like about.

1812
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Ye who wants then you're then you're the Jaguars from

1813
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: two years ago. Hey, let's just burn it down and

1814
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: get rid of everybody. Yeah, it's not good for the league,

1815
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 1: the high quality asset. I keep bringing up Latimore because

1816
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: he's a top corner and we know he has to

1817
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,600
Speaker 1: go because we can't afford him. We can't pay our

1818
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: electric bill. Yeah, I mean, that's that's why I expect

1819
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: something to happen there. But Matt, that's gonna do it

1820
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: for our show today. We appreciate everybody listening. So for

1821
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: my partner here, Matt Williamson, for Jacob here on safe

1822
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lali. Thank you

1823
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: for listening to this edition to the Drive on Steelers

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01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: Nation Radio.