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Speaker 1: a lot of choices out there. Joel Klatt in one hour,

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Speaker 1: Huge Huge College Football Weekend. I like the Fuck Guys

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Speaker 1: to start with something today. We don't until we get

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Speaker 1: to October. We don't lead with a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 1: Baseball regular seasons are long, but last night my childhood favorite,

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners, clinched the playoff spot, and they've got

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Speaker 1: some interesting components. But Rob Manfred and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in baseball have been worried about baseball. The payroll

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Speaker 1: matters in the regular season, but once you get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you don't know what's going to happen. No

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Speaker 1: sport is weirder and quirkier than Major League Baseball. It's

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Speaker 1: been a great year for the sport. The three hundred

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Speaker 1: playoff spot. The Mega money Train. The LA Dodgers blew

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Speaker 1: another game last night. Yeah O TWI was great and

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Speaker 1: then he leaves and the Dodgers blow another game. It's

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Speaker 1: been that year and that's what money doesn't buy you health.

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Speaker 1: They've got a bad bullpen. It blew another game last night.

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Speaker 1: Mookie Bett started the season very poorly. He had a sickness.

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries, mow money Mo problems. They're on track

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Speaker 1: for their worst record in six years. For the record,

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Speaker 1: the small market Brewers I think win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: of big time sticks. The American Lead League Division leaders

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Speaker 1: people are neurotic, anxiety filled fatalists. Take a deep breath.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay. Even my Mariners. They've got cal Rawley,

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Speaker 1: they score quickly. The Mariners do. They've got a great

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Speaker 1: closer if they have a lead late Andres Muno's and

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Speaker 1: they had the best rotation eer in baseball last year

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Speaker 1: and it's still good this year. The Seattle Mariners, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, could win the World Series. Yes they could.

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Speaker 1: What's true in sports always is that money never ever

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Speaker 1: the finals. Put your phones down. It's exhausting. The world's

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Speaker 1: not going to end except for the Dodgers. Yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I have to be honest about the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: They're bullpen stinks, they brew blew another lead. Oh Tawani's amazing,

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Speaker 1: Mookie's hitting, and they can't close out games they should win.

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Speaker 1: And my number one rule in baseball is, can't win

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Speaker 4: These are guys, I do know that. I just see

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Speaker 1: So the division leaders currently have the fifth biggest payroll,

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna be okay, NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: So Kevin O'Connell's a great coach, he said, tap the

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Speaker 1: the Vikings face the Steelers. It's in Dublin, Ireland. My

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Speaker 1: any team that helps you win the game Sunday, NFL,

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Speaker 1: not for long, win the game Sunday. Start the quarterback

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Speaker 1: that wins you the game. And as I said last

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Speaker 1: NFL ten years. I think he's been on six teams

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Speaker 1: and he could get a head coaching job next year

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Speaker 1: Jim Ersay said get him out of here. He lost

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Speaker 1: for most NFL quarterbacks, with Carson Wentz, he's as good

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Speaker 1: he's not Mahomes, he's not Burrough. But he's a big,

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and JJ McCarthy at this point, and I

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Speaker 1: and this is bad luck. He got hurt again. So

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Speaker 1: this is not college football. There's no big donor to

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Speaker 1: guarantee you get snaps. Some young quarterbacks fall into Sean Payton,

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Speaker 3: It's not fair.

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Speaker 1: What do the vikings? Oh, JJ McCarthy, Well, they gave up.

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Speaker 1: They gave up a fourth round pick and a few

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Speaker 3: Go with Brock Ferdy.

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Speaker 1: I mean the best business advice I've ever been given

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Speaker 1: Peter Shernan, really smart guys, and they, you know, in

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Speaker 1: their busy life. I sent emails text to people I knew,

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Speaker 1: and everybody gave me the same advice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, literally the same advice.

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Speaker 1: Whatever works immediately double down on it, and what doesn't

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Speaker 1: bail on it. Don't try to validate your earlier choices.

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Speaker 1: Amazon doesn't look like the company that was formed either

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Speaker 3: Don't fall in love with your draft picks.

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Speaker 1: You can tell often in camp, Oh, that didn't look good.

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Speaker 1: He's smaller than I thought. He doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of toughness. Man, he's got a bad temper. Stuff is

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Speaker 1: into Sean Payton. Some fall into defensive coaches who don't

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Speaker 1: have a feel for offense. So it's nothing against JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: He may develop into something great. But my take in

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Speaker 1: great home field advantage, excellent defensive coordinator. I mean, Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz and Kevin O'Connell can win a lot of games.

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Speaker 3: So let's let it play out.

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Speaker 1: Here's Greg Olsen yesterday on what to do with Wentz

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure there is a coach in the league

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Speaker 5: a head coach for sure, or an offensive coordinator who

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Speaker 5: gets the most out of their quarterback within their system

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Speaker 5: and blends the idea of play caller quarterback whisper confidant

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Speaker 5: mentor he has such a unique quality where yes he

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Speaker 5: has the x's and o's, yes he has the schematic advantage,

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Speaker 5: but it's all the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I actually J McK and I agree on this. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: One of the better, one of the better plays on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree. They'll they'll going to destroy Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: But a quick point on your Wentz versus McCarthy thing.

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Speaker 6: A Vikings buddy of mine said, Hey, you got to

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Speaker 6: tell Colin. One huge difference that Wentz had that McCarthy didn't,

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Speaker 6: and that's left tackle Christian darrisol. He missed the first

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Speaker 6: two games. I know he played against the Bengals. Twenty

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Speaker 6: one steps allowed, one pressure. He's borderlining lead. I don't

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Speaker 1: I am fully aware of that, I know, but I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: In this league, there.

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Speaker 1: Is no perfect roster That's why I said about brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't He's not as good without Christian McCaffrey. Well,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey gets it's hurt. So you have to be

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Speaker 1: good despite not having a star running back. So, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Najee Harris is out with Justin Herbert, Rashaun

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Speaker 1: Slater's out the Pro Bowl. Left tackle Herbert's having his

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Speaker 1: best year. Ye people can always say, well the left

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Speaker 1: take make plays. I don't care about it. Make plays.

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Speaker 6: Herbert is a fifth year superstar in this league. Top

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Speaker 6: six quarterback JJ McCarthy's got two starts. We need to

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Speaker 6: give the kid a chance. And I'm just I know

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Speaker 6: I'm all in, and it's maybe a bad move by me. Listen,

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Speaker 6: I've been wrong before.

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Speaker 1: Her show does not cancel culture quarterbacks. I'm not say

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is I said before the show. I

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Speaker 1: said it Friday, you were here, I said Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: today is better than JJ McCarthy. However, whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: as Jared Goff or Jordan Love, because those are the

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Speaker 1: guys in your division. This team is built to win

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Speaker 1: now and it's not fair. But Carson wentz with this group.

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Speaker 1: I think could go toe to toe with Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: and there wouldn't be a massive gap. Although Jordan loves

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Speaker 1: better what I saw seven of the eight quarters with McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: the gap between him and Golf or him and Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love feels like a sizeable, noticeable separation. So you gotta

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Speaker 1: you have to play who wins Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, I mean, but to win now, remember

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Speaker 6: McCarthy on the rookie deal only in year two. They

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Speaker 3: I'm rooting for a good quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: You know, as you go into week four week five

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: You get to about a month through the games. You

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Speaker 10: Today's all about us. Let's focus on us. Let's go

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Speaker 10: through these meetings. I talked about the things I'm messed

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Speaker 1: You know, what's remarkable is that Dak Prescott is keeping

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Speaker 3: Jmack with a news.

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Speaker 7: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's start with your favorite quarterback, Baker Mayfield. Boy,

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Speaker 6: Got his toughest test yet against an Eagles team that

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Speaker 11: The quarterback is playing really good. He's a scrambler. He's

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Speaker 11: an issue. I've always liked Mayfield. I think he's a

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Speaker 11: good quarterback. Why these teams that had him didn't keep him? No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baker, right now, it's a top ten quarterback in

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Let's let's just you know, be fully honest here.

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Speaker 6: They've been lucky through three weeks at the end of games, Colin, Listen,

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Speaker 6: It's a coinclet right, So I think seeing Eagles minus

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Speaker 3: The best week of practice.

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Speaker 1: And they had a terrible twenty six to seven deficit

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Speaker 1: Then they played a good second half in one. But

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Speaker 1: And I mean they were awful at home against a

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Speaker 7: Okay, Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 12: Golf. Had a very efficient game. There's a number of

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Speaker 12: things people don't have no idea that he did in

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Speaker 1: Well, I've seen him in his career as a ram

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Speaker 1: was like a major league baseball player. I think Jared's

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Speaker 1: got a big time arm, and you have to give

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Speaker 1: him the setup like Baker Mayfield. You gotta let him

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Speaker 1: plant and throw. I also think if you watch Golf

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Speaker 1: and amor On Saint Brown, dude, that has now become

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Speaker 1: one of the best matches in the league. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are so good they've been They are so on point,

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Speaker 1: and Goff looks for him in big spots. That is

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Speaker 1: that is it may not be Burrow and Chase because

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Speaker 1: it's not as big play, but Golf and Amoran Saint

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Speaker 1: Brown are fantastic.

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Speaker 6: So PFF has Goff as the nineteenth graded quarterbacks so far,

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Speaker 6: when you strip out guys it's actually twenty fifth. But

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Speaker 6: when you take out guys who had one game. He

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Speaker 6: comes in nineteen. He was terrible against the Packers. He

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Speaker 6: was terrible, and you know he carves up Chicago okay whatever,

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Speaker 6: and then he was very very good against Baltimore. We

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Speaker 6: don't know, by the way, if Baltimore's defense is any good,

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Speaker 6: so I think the jury's still out now. Colin, what

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Speaker 6: do you make of this Browns game this weekend? Cleveland

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Speaker 6: riding high but with Miles Garrett, is the Detroit offensive

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Speaker 6: line ready because they.

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Speaker 1: Were not against the Packers. I think it's a low

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Speaker 1: scoring game. I take Detroit to win. I think Cleveland's

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Speaker 1: defense is absolutely for.

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Speaker 7: It's good too.

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Speaker 1: I went and rewatched that game on YouTube. Cleveland's defense

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Speaker 1: is really good. Now They're not gonna ignite you know

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard. They're not gonna score a lot. Cleveland has

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Speaker 1: to win a certain way. Detroit can win multiple ways.

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Speaker 1: So Cleveland's not gonna win on the road against good

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Speaker 1: teams very often. But what you saw them do is

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Speaker 1: what Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Is good enough to do.

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Speaker 1: Is at home, catch a really good team sleeping coming

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Speaker 1: in a sandwich spot and you know, green Bay's looking ahead,

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Speaker 1: green Bay's you.

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Speaker 3: Know, feeling it.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of young team. Everybody says best team

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Speaker 1: in the league. And when you play Cleveland, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have long, extended drives they're really good defensively.

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Speaker 2: Jmack with the news. Well, that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 2: for stopping that the herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: I you know, J Mack, I'm gonna be busy doing

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Speaker 1: some journalism on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 6: I have a source who played on my men's basketball

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Speaker 6: team last night said they expect to see you Saturday

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Speaker 6: on a certain show. I hope I'm not breaking any

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Speaker 6: news here, but he's very excited to have you.

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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a great game, right Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I read this story this morning Josh Pate, who's

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Speaker 1: a great college football podcaster.

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Speaker 3: He's great, Josh Pate. He said.

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, I regret to inform you, he told his

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Speaker 1: audience has himself a really good quarterback in Jaden Mayova.

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Speaker 1: I think Mayov is a better quarterback for Lincoln than

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was. He may not be the most talented,

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Speaker 1: but he plays within a system. And I actually agree

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Speaker 1: with Josh here. Caleb Williams second year at USC after

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame game, Lincoln Riley lost trust to the

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Speaker 1: old line at USC, and he was protecting Caleb more

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Speaker 1: than he was unleashing him. And it did feel like

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Speaker 1: it was Caleb's offense and not Lincoln Riley's for big

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Speaker 1: portions of the second year, and Lincoln Riley when you

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Speaker 1: watch us, this is Lincoln Riley's offense. He likes to

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Speaker 1: run the ball more than people give him credit for.

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Speaker 1: He has done an amazing job, so Jade and Mayova.

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Speaker 1: Last year I watched USC three times live. This kid

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Speaker 1: was reckless. He was loose. I didn't trust him throwing

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Speaker 1: over the middle. He was mistake prone. He was almost

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Speaker 1: not like emotionally, but as a quarterback. He was kind

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Speaker 1: of an immature needed more reps quarterback this year. Disciplined, poise,

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Speaker 1: isn't his is frenetic? Isn't his flip? Every throw seems

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Speaker 1: to matter.

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Speaker 3: Last year it.

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Speaker 1: Felt like sometimes he was playing in the backyard. All

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Speaker 1: of that's gone. So horsepower can be sometimes a detriment.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: love Lamar Jackson of the He's unbelievable. He's the greatest

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Speaker 1: play extender of all time. But he doesn't throw the

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Speaker 1: ball away enough. And so Lamar always you saw it

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night against the Lions. He's always trying to

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Speaker 1: make a great play out of a missed block or

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Speaker 1: or a play that goes sideways, and that means a

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Speaker 1: lot of negative yardage plays by Lamar Jackson. It does

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Speaker 1: feel sometimes he's digging out from one of the holes

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Speaker 1: he created, and he's unbelievable. Caleb Williams has much more

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Speaker 1: horsepower than Jayden Mayava. But I actually when I watch

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Speaker 1: USC this year, I can see the creative and the

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Speaker 1: smart and the clever and the unique and more of

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Speaker 1: the power running that I think Lincoln Riley actually likes.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this about Joe Burrow. We all love

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow holds the ball because he's

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Speaker 1: always looking for that big T Higgins player Jamar Chase play,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't have much of a run game, so

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Speaker 1: he knows he'd like to get some cheap touchdowns over

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Speaker 1: the top. And once again, Joe Burro's hurt again. And

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Speaker 1: I love Joe Burrell and I love Lamar Jackson. And

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Speaker 1: that's what horsepower gives you, the self belief, and it's

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Speaker 1: often true that you can make something out of nothing.

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Speaker 1: And I think Caleb the second year at USC was

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Speaker 1: hard to coach for Lincoln Riley. He was trying to

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Speaker 1: protect him. He didn't want to get him hurt because

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Speaker 1: he knew he was going to be the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: So and Greg Kosell told us this for years about

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his prime. He said, Aaron's actually so gifted.

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Speaker 1: He's he's extending completions. There's completions have been schemed up

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Speaker 1: by Mike McCarthy. They've been schemed back. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to use him because he wants to make a bigger play.

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Speaker 1: So that this USC team, to me, feels like Lincoln's team.

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Speaker 1: And here was Lincoln Writy this week talking about Jaydon Mayava.

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Speaker 13: Jaden deserves, you know, a ton of credit. He's you know,

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Speaker 13: he's he did a really good job after the season.

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Speaker 13: I just really taking an honest look at what he

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Speaker 13: did well and what he's got to do better, and

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Speaker 13: then just really put his head down and just own

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Speaker 13: the things that he knew he had to be better

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Speaker 13: at and that we put in front of him. And

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Speaker 13: and he's just he's he's incredibly coachable, and that's where

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Speaker 13: you know, his humility is a strength. Occasionally you have

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Speaker 13: sometimes quarterbacks they're so hardheaded that can it can it

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Speaker 13: can go the other way where they almost become a

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Speaker 13: little less coachable than you want them to be.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's throwing shade at anybody. I

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Speaker 1: think it is harder to be coachable when there is

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Speaker 1: gift that is Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. I think

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Speaker 1: it's harder because in high school in college you've had

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Speaker 1: so much success, just sort of bulldozing your way to success.

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Speaker 1: And Jayden Mayava is not Caleb Williams. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that arm strength. But when you watch this team now,

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that's yeah, that that's Lincoln's team. It's

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Speaker 1: very clever, power running now, use the tight ends sometimes

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Speaker 1: some RPO stuff. It's good team. How good I'll know

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Speaker 1: when they go to Notre Dame. I'll know when they

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Speaker 1: go to Oregon. But they're good, you know, j Mac,

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Speaker 1: I can't even tease this. I uh, do you ever?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever have a pocket schedule? You know, we

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Speaker 1: make predictions before the year. I make division predictions, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily records. I think it's impossible injuries, so I don't

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Speaker 1: do record predictions. But I did say the Bears would

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Speaker 1: go nine and eight, and I thought I was optimistic.

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Speaker 1: I did relook at the schedule this morning. Based on

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Speaker 1: what I've seen.

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Speaker 7: They're not going nine to eight.

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Speaker 3: Well that's very negative.

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Speaker 7: What do you think they're going nine and eight?

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Speaker 3: I did the pocket schedule, I did the whole thing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's interesting.

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Speaker 7: Do you think the Bears are going to the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Come on, I'm not going to give it away before

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Speaker 3: the segment.

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Speaker 1: Also later today, Joel Klatz coming on Mark Sanchez too.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Two of the NFC's early season best as Saquon and

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Speaker 6: defending champion Eagles take on Baker Mayfield and the Bucks,

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Speaker 6: or the Jags battle Christian McCaffrey and the Niners, or

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Speaker 6: other regional action. Check localistings for the game in your area,

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Speaker 6: only on Fox.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play a game patience or Panic with

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Speaker 1: some of the NFL's best teams should they make a

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Speaker 1: move at the trade deadline, which I think is week

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Speaker 1: nine or ten. You've got some time here, You've got

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Speaker 1: you got about five six weeks. But like you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the teams I've talked about is the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They need to get a corner Bills got to fix

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Speaker 1: that run defense. So we'll play patients or panic at

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Speaker 1: the top. So I saw three stories this morning, And

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Speaker 1: when I come into work every morning, the staff puts

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Speaker 1: about the fifteen stories up and maybe twenty, and we

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Speaker 1: pick about five what we want to talk about. And

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Speaker 1: there were three right in a row. Why the Broncos

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Speaker 1: have far bigger concerns than just bo Nix's overthrows. Michael

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Speaker 1: Pennocks junior struggles are worrisome. You started six games Texan CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud?

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Speaker 1: Is he playing his way out of an extension?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Outside of four quarterbacks on the planet Mahomes, out, Lamar

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Speaker 1: and Burrow, quarterback play is circumstantial. Who's your coach, who's

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Speaker 1: your coordinator? What's your O line? Like, there's four exceptions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even Matt Stafford before Sean McVay zero playoff wins,

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Speaker 1: even Justin Herbert, who's a leading candidate today for the

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Speaker 1: MVP five hundred record with Brandon Staley. Okay, so it's circumstance.

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Speaker 1: Now with the young quarterbacks, it's almost entirely circumstantial. Do

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Speaker 1: you know you got to learn the language, You got

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Speaker 1: to learn the locker room. You got to learn the

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Speaker 1: coordinators playbook, you got to learn the tricks, you got

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Speaker 1: to learn the league. So people tend to forget. And

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Speaker 1: I love Mahomes and we all do. Patrick Mahomes got

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Speaker 1: the perfect situation. He didn't have to play for a year.

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Speaker 1: He got the best offensive coach or coach in the sport,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey when he finally got a start

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Speaker 1: and a good old line and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs had made the playoff for three straight seasons

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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith, he acknowledges was an unbelievable mentor. Now

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Speaker 1: Mahomes took that momentum and became very quickly the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback talent in the league. I'm not saying he doesn't

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Speaker 1: deserve credit, but it should be noted that Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 1: CJ Stroud, Bryce Young cam Ward, Caleb Williams, and mostly

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Speaker 1: Caleb Drake may. Yeah, you're starting in the first month

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Speaker 1: and we have no momentum. We're not very good O

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Speaker 1: line defense got to win by a shootout. So those

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Speaker 1: guys not only had to play right away, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't have nearly as good of a roster as Lamar

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Speaker 1: had or Josh Allen had. Or certainly what Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: had so so much you have. My take has always

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Speaker 1: been on young quarterbacks. Trust your eyes. Do they look overwhelmed?

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy probably are. Do you see a great trait?

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Speaker 1: Something took me a while to figure out, Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: But do you see a great trait? And then as

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Speaker 1: long as they have reportedly a very good work ethnic

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Speaker 1: they're committed, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: when he can plant and throw, has a world class arm.

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Speaker 1: He's accurate when he can step and throw. Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: was too damn athletic and talented with a big arm

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Speaker 1: not to eventually work somewhere. He was totally committed. That's

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Speaker 1: why I don't give up on Donald. He's just too talent.

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Speaker 1: I see traits with Kenny Pickett or Mitch Trubisky. I

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Speaker 1: never saw the trait. I just never saw the thing

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Speaker 1: that I went wow, people, not Kyler Murray. I've said

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Speaker 1: for years he's incredibly elusive and throws one of the

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Speaker 1: prettiest balls in the league. There's just too much talent

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Speaker 1: there for him. His issue has been, as he totally

657
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Speaker 1: committed his own owner's question that his own gms have.

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway on all these quarterbacks. For the record,

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Speaker 1: go look at bow Nick's schedule the next month. It

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Speaker 1: lightens up considerably. Pennix little worrisome, but I like him.

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: I see accuracy, arm I see a trait I love

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Speaker 1: I do. Okay, I saw this, I saw this, and

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Speaker 1: this is not really fair. This is when the media

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Speaker 1: is unfair. And so there is a US Weekly. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those magazines. I think you look over at

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00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: the checkout line in a grocery store and they've got

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Speaker 1: like aliens landed on Earth, and then US Weekly and

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Speaker 1: so there's this picture for our radio audience. I apologize

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Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson, his beautiful young girlfriend

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Speaker 1: on the cover. Okay, they didn't pose for this. They

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Speaker 1: did not pose for this, So there's an you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a sense look at.

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Speaker 3: These two they're really leaning into this.

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Speaker 1: No not, you took an old picture and made it

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Speaker 1: look like a cover, because both would have turned this down.

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Speaker 1: So my take on this is I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with this relationship. I have a problem with Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick's ability to spot personnel.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: My problem is last six years controlling the Patriot drafts.

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00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: They were awful, and I don't think North Carolina has

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Speaker 1: got very many good players. And I've watched them play

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00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: two full games and then highlights of others. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have really good playmakers. I think that quarterback

685
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: they brought in, I think they bailed on him mostly.

686
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: So my thing, and I've had a lot of people

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00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: say this to me, a lot people close to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't like this relationship. Two consenting adults both feel

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Speaker 1: there's a benefit. I mean, my whole life, I have

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00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: seen smart, beautiful women with guys and I'm like, don't

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Speaker 1: get it.

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Speaker 3: It's none of my business. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what turns our crank, but I don't know,

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Speaker 1: not for me to judge. Believe me, I outkicked my coverage,

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Speaker 1: so whatever. I mean, I am pretty suave, but I

696
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: outkicked my coverage. So my issue with Belichick is he

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: never had an interest. I said this about Urban Meyer,

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Speaker 1: who I love. Urban never liked pro football. Bill never

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: liked college football. He was an NFL guy, and once

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Speaker 1: he took over the draft, it was brutal. So do

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Speaker 1: I think it's weird that Jordan Hudson's on the sideline

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Speaker 1: a little.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on the sideline of a college football game Saturday.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people on the sidelines of college

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00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: football games. Who the friend's family, Doughty know Herbstreet's got

707
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: his dog in the booth. Who cares makes him happy?

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care. So my bigger problem is

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Speaker 1: I watch Carolina. It feels like I'm watching the Patriots.

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: It's like, stop with a You're not a good personnel guy.

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Speaker 1: You're a great coach, but you're not very good at that.

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Speaker 1: In college football, That's where Nick's, Jimmy Johnson, jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll in college that's where they were unbelievable. Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: I think, has a real eye for personnel. Not all

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Speaker 1: coaches do, and at Belichick does not. That is not

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Speaker 1: his thing. Jimmy Johnson's I mean, every where Jimmy left,

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00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: they won because you had a great roster. Right.

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh is like that. Jimmy Harbaugh knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean he took a bunch of fifth round corners

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Speaker 1: and two years later, a year and a half later,

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Speaker 1: the secondary for the Chargers is the stickiest in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: On these fifth round guys. So I mean, hey, Caro,

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Speaker 3: and here's what.

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Speaker 1: If you take Brady out of Belichick's career, they're one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty fourth right now in offensive yards per game.

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Speaker 1: If you take Belichick, take Brady out of his career

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: last four years in New England, unwatchable offense, and look

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Speaker 1: at this thing.

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Speaker 3: So I've kind of.

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Speaker 1: Found the regression of Belichick to be utterly fascinating. Five

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Speaker 1: years ago, we were all convinced he was not only

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Speaker 1: the best coach in football, he was a.

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Speaker 3: Best coach of all time. He was a genius.

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Speaker 1: In the last five years his offense is as the

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: sport has become more offensive, are absolutely awful. So the

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Speaker 1: magazine cover, though, I think it kind of leads you

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Speaker 1: to believe they posed.

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Speaker 3: They did not.

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Speaker 1: That's where the media, I think, does a bad job.

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend they're aggressively seeking this kind of exposure.

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Speaker 3: They're not. They're not.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care if because since she started dating

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Speaker 1: Belichick her real estate portfolios expanded.

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Speaker 3: Whatevs.

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Speaker 1: You know, people are in relationships for different reasons, all right,

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Speaker 1: j Mac Joel Klatt start of the show. Plus, we're

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Speaker 1: going to play a game there are really good teams

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Speaker 1: in this league that have a massive hole in their operation.

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Speaker 1: Should they We'll call it patience, it'll work itself out,

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Speaker 1: or panic? Do you need to make a move in

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Speaker 1: the next six weeks before the trade devil?

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 6: I feel like that was my idea yesterday, and the

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Speaker 6: staff's listening to me real quick. Do you know fun

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Speaker 6: facts about me? I worked at US weekly magazine? No,

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Speaker 6: I did not know two thousand and is it a

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Speaker 6: gossip Magan at two thousand and four? It's almost like

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Speaker 6: an entertainment glossy. They would send me to like Red Carpets. Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 6: we need you to interview Jessica Albuck and you go.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, of course I could do that, you know,

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Speaker 6: like it was a fun, easy job. Yes, they did

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Speaker 6: not post for that, But Colin, there's a reason there

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Speaker 6: on the cover because people are fascinated by this relationship.

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Speaker 6: Longtime successful coach, dating beauty pageant twenty something year old.

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Speaker 6: If this sells well at the checkout register and wherever

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Speaker 6: people buy this, it's gonna be on all the other

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Speaker 6: magazine covers pretty soon. So we'll know you're in a month.

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Speaker 6: What the appetite is in America for this relationship. No,

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Speaker 6: I would like to see Belichick succeed.

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Speaker 1: I don't like watching awful offensive football, and I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you Carolina is a hard watch and it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: Joe Klatnam