1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Everything right now, Golf takes turns, gives the Montgomery two hands. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: On that football. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: There he goes over the right side, twenty five, twenty 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: cuts the right, fifteen down to the ten, down to 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: the time, to the. 6 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 3: End, Zoe touchdown. 7 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions demo to the house thirty one yards and 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: the Lions have put this game on ice. 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Ha. 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: What a night for the Detroit Lions. 11 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: What a statement by this football team. 12 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: Oh it was the Lions making a statement on Monday 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: night football. 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: David Montgomery finishes. 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 4: The game off in the best most fitting way possible, 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: doing it on the ground where they beat up the 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: supposedly tough Ravens all night long. That is Dan Miller 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: and Lomas Brown on w x YT, two of my 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: absolute favorites on the mics on a night that if 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: you didn't believe it, after that big win against the Bears, 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: announced that the Lions are back, that they're not going 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 4: anywhere thirty eight to twenty four in one of the 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: most entertaining Monday night football games in a while. I'm 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 4: here with Nick Shook live on YouTube. Appreciate y'all and 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: everyone listening. The next day, Nick I thought it was 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: gonna be a classic ending, and in a way it was. 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: The Lions get the ball up seven, they have it 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: at midfield, fourth down, deciding do we kick it off 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: and trust our defense? Now, how about we trust our 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: defense by going for it Jared Goff Layers in a 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: perfect throw. They trusted their quarterback, their running game all night, 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: and the offense delivered. They showed they can still win 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: shootouts against the best of them. What surprised you the 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: most tonight? 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I knew the Ravens were missing Nandi Madabik 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: and Kyle van Noy and that it was gonna make 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: them little weaker up front. But my god, did the 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions send a statement to not only the Baltimore 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Ravens but the rest of the NFL that we're gonna 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: do one thing, and one thing only We're gonna do 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: with the hat says, run the damn ball. That's what 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: they're gonna do. And that's what they did on Monday night. 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: I mean, the totals are absurd. Two hundred and twenty 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: one net rushing yards for excuse me, two hundred and 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: twenty four net rushing yards for Detroit. David Montgomery goes 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: twelve for one fifty one and two touchdowns, a long 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: seventy two yard run. He gets that touchdown run to 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: is it. They won the battle of toughness, the battle 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: of grit in the interior, which is a phrase that's 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: on the hat Dan campbellwears all the time, grit. They 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: won the battle of grit tonight, and they proved that 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: they are one of the toughest teams in the NFL, 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to running the football. 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: So the final score was thirty eight to thirty after 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: Lamar had that garbage time touchdown that could have decided 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: a lot of fantasy football matchups out there with Mark 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: Andrews getting the touchdown late. And I actually think that 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: final score flatters the Ravens because even though these two 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: two teams were going punch for punch and Lamar Jackson 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: had a lot of great throws in this game. After 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: the Lions fell down by a touchdown right after halftime, 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: it was one way traffic. And yeah, a lot of 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: the passing stats looked similar, but you mentioned those rushing stats, 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: how uneven they were. After Derek Henry's early rushing touchdown. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything done on the ground. On the 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: other hand. David Montgomery is popping off big plays, the 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: longest run in the NFL over seventy yards and then 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: he hits that touchdown. But it was the five, the six, 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: the seven, the eight yard runs. They ended up with 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: a sixty percent success rate compared to thirty one for 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: the Ravens, almost doubling them up. It's awesome and so 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: much focus is going to be on that rushing attack. 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: And yes, the Ravens were missing a couple key defenders. 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: Eight the lines aren't gonna feel bad for you. They 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: were missing key defenders all of last season and no 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: one made excuses for them back then. And again it 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: was just Madabweke. You look at the maturation of this 78 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: young offensive line. We talked about it all offseason. Is 79 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: this gonna be the Achilles heal? Going into this game, 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: my big question was can this interior offensive line. Tate Ratledge, 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: the rookie making a ton of great blocks in this game, 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: Christian Mahogany, second year player, just mowing through people, and 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: the veteran Graham Glasgow in the middle. They really set 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: a tempo shook And as I'm watching this game, I'm thinking, 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: oh man, Nick Schuok is loving what the Detroit Lions 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: are doing. It's what the Detroit Lions always do. I 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: guess we shouldn't have doubted just because you know Ben 88 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: Johnson is in Detroit. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: That's why I put the hat on, because it makes 90 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: my heart so warm that a team can win classically, 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: they can win by winning in the trenches and making 92 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: a statement like they did. But it also speaks to 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: the identity of the Detroit Lions offensively, because even though 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: they lose their offensive cord in the offseason, they're still 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: the same team. They still like to build out of 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: the run, build out a play action, and run their 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: offense that way. And because the running game was so effective, 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: especially on that eighteen play ninety eight yard drive, they 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: were able to do whatever they want in passing situations. 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: They were also converting key third downs on that specific drive. 101 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: They got into a rhythm that we really haven't We 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: didn't see them get into at all in Week one. 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: We saw them get into it against the Bears in 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: that blowout, but you thought, well, it's against the Bears. 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: This was a real test. This was a measuring stick, 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: and they passed it, and they proved to everybody that 107 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: they are still the same team. No, by the way, 108 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: we could pull out some tricks out of our bag too. 109 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: Just because Ben Johnson's gone doesn't mean he didn't leave 110 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: the bag behind. And our new offensive coordinator can't dial 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: some fun stuff up to that. The option on the 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: goal line on fourth and one, I mean am and 113 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown pitching it to Jamir Gibbs. There was 114 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: just so much beautiful creativity from this team. And like 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: you said, the Detroit Lions, I don't know if they 116 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: ever went anywhere, but they're certainly back. 117 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had both running backs on the field at 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: a certain point. 119 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: They have like the I formation. 120 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: It was the eleventh time in David Montgomery and Jamiir 121 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: Gibbs's career as teammates that they both scored a touchdown 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: in the same game. That is the most in NFL history. 123 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned the trick play in the fourth quarter on 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: fourth down, one of a few key key fourth downs 125 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 4: that we're gonna talk about. Let's actually listen to John 126 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: Morton getting in his bag, the new Lions offensive coordinator 127 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: having his own breakout. 128 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 5: Game, golf up under center, turns gids On and Roh 129 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: flits it out to Gibbs. PRIs died a house baby 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: touchdown Detroit Lions. All that is beautiful. Golf hands it 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: to Ahmed raw Hamed Roth flips it to Gibs and 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: the Lions have got the lead back. 133 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 134 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 4: And there was another play earlier in that second half, 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: which was a throwback pass from Aman Ross Saint Brown 136 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: to Jared Goff, perfectly executed. They end up getting a 137 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: twenty plus you know, yard chunk play down the field, 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: and we're focusing on the runs and the fourth downs 139 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 4: for now. At some point we're gonna go through this 140 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: whole game because there was so much going on. We 141 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: have a lot of highlights. I love that we can 142 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: play the highlights, play the sound, and this game, to 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: me almost deserves a Super Bowl treatment because it's two 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: teams I picked to get to the Super Bowl, and 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: going into this game, I really add my doubts whether 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: the Lions long term are gonna have enough on defense 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: and whether the offense can be that special. After this game, 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm obviously feeling better, and I have a few more 149 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: doubts about the Ravens, which we'll get to. 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: But while we're towards. 151 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: The end of the game, I think it is key 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: to back up to the fourth down situation at midfield. 153 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: Every week, there are so many situations where teams go 154 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: for fourth downs and we're just getting used to it. 155 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel went for a fourth and one in the 156 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: first half inside his own twenty a game that they 157 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: were losing at and like, nobody even blink. These things 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: are happening every week. But if you really think about it, 159 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: in a game like this, the Lions, who I believe 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: were really out playing the Ravens at this point, need 161 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: to get two yards to be in total control of 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: the game. But if they did not pick it up Nick, 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: they're giving the Ravens a short field with under two 164 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: minutes to go. Years ago, coaches wouldn't even think about that. 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell did not even hesitate. Let's listen. 166 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Golf up under center, Montgovernor the single back golf banks 167 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: to him, wants to throw does down fielt once on 168 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: and Row got him made the catch inside the forty. 169 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: That's a first down. 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: But there's a flag down as well. It's a hold 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: against Pauli Moore that is huge. I love the call 172 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: by Dan Miller two. 173 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: He doesn't let the penalty get in the way of 174 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: a great call, and Jared Goff's numbers don't look flashy. 175 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: And this is one where you just have to watch 176 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: the game to see everything that happens, because Lamar Jackson's 177 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: numbers were great, and he did have a lot of 178 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: great throws, but I think he had some real problems 179 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: in this game, partially caused by his offensive line, partially 180 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: caused by himself. He ends up with only six incompletions, 181 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty eight yards in three touchdowns. But 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: it was really Jared Goff's performance twenty for twenty eight, 183 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: two hundred and two yards and a touchdown, and that 184 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: throw your coach trusting you that that's basically a game 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: me throw for Jared Goff at this stage of his career. 186 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: And Monra winning right off the snap and you throwing 187 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: like a nice touch ball towards the sideline over his shoulder. 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: And he was really excellent tonight, making the throws, making 189 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 4: the decisions, looking off the right receivers, picking the right 190 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: matchups whenever he needed to. 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy Aikman was overcome with joy after watching that throw. 192 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean he could barely contain himself because it was, 193 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: like he said, the best throw of the night for 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Jared Goff, the perfect touch ball on a key spot 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: you can't afford to miss aman Ro Saint Brown on 196 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: that player, Like you said, you're gonna give the Ravens 197 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: a short field. But again, the beauty of it is 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: the fact that it's fourth and one and they're able 199 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: to run play action and sneak Am and Rah out 200 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: like that and get him in a one on one 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: situation where he gets a step on the defender and 202 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 2: he's able to come down with that because this is 203 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: a guy who notoriously has not had a drop in 204 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: like two years. So of course, if you want to 205 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: trust the shorts hands in your team, it's am Andro 206 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Saint Brown. But you got to get it there to him. 207 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: How do you get it there? You run the play 208 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: action after you've dominated them on the ground when it's 209 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: a short yarded situation. And just another example of beautiful 210 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: play calling flow from the Lions offense and just a 211 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: almost perfect way to cap this game, because the only 212 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: better way to cap it is with that David Montgomery 213 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: touchdown run that we already played. That was the poetic ending, 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: the fitting ending that we all deserved, right. 215 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: That one two punch was awesome, And it's why I 216 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: sometimes think when you're talking about the best games of 217 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: the year, of the decade, of all time, the best 218 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: Super Bowls. We have a comment from one of our 219 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: viewers right now, Richard, who said this was easily top 220 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: five Monday night football game of the decade. 221 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: Now that's a bold statement. 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: I'd have to go through it, but I do think 223 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: sometimes everyone just thinks of what has the best final play, 224 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: and that is important, like the best like final moment 225 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: that is in your head. But of all the Super 226 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: Bowls I went to, I always go back to that 227 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: Saint's Cult super Bowl, which were just two great teams, 228 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: tons of great players on both sides, Haymakers throughout, and 229 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: then an explosion that is essentially ended at that Tracy 230 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: Porter interception with five minutes to go. And this game 231 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: reminded me a little bit of that, where it's just 232 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: unreal plays on both sides, and yes, you didn't get 233 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: that incredible finish, but you got the two play sequence 234 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: from the Lions, and it's a game I'll remember. And 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: if the Lions do end up making it far in 236 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: the playoffs this year, I think they showed themselves something 237 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: They did fall down in this game, and so I'm 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: testing my producer Chris Babona here because we got a 239 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: ton of possible highlights in this game. 240 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: I want to go. 241 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: Back to the third quarter because that was the first 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: time in the game that the Ravens had the lead. 243 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: If you remember, they go into halftime tying it up 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: with a late drive to Rashad Bateman. They get the 245 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: touchdown after their defense did a good job getting the 246 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: ball back for them. We'll get into what the Lions 247 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: defense did in a second. Then the Ravens come out 248 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: in the second half, really effective drive. It's the first 249 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: touchdown to Mark Andrews and you think, okay, it's rolling. 250 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: The Lions have to score or on the ensuing drive, 251 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: and that's exactly what they did, and it finished with 252 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 4: one of Jared Goff's best throws of the night, another 253 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 4: one to amanra. 254 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: Golf out of the gun. 255 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Montgomery was right, Jared's got it back and looking looking 256 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: throwing right side. 257 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: One salmon raw end zone got it touchdown Detroit Lions. 258 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: What a delivery that time by Golf where only aman 259 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: rival those late hands could pull it in and the 260 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 5: Lions were an extra point away from drawing even once 261 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: again here in Paltible. 262 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: What did you think about that route? 263 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: So you see you see Marlon Humphrey just looking up 264 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: in like the distance like wondering how did that just happen. 265 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: That's because Amon Ra While he's got the surest hands 266 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: in the NFL, or one of the best sets of 267 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: hands in the NFL, he also is an incredible route runner. 268 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: And he ran a fantastic little stutter step double move 269 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: almost like a hitch and go that left Humphrey just 270 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: a step behind. And he watched him on that play 271 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: where he his momentum completely stops and then he has 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: to restart, and at that point he's already cooked because 273 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Golf's gonna put that ball on Saint Brown. He's gonna 274 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: come down with it, and late hands are not. It 275 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: didn't matter. He created that space with his route running. 276 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: So it was a great design. This game was full 277 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: of great designs. And this is also a demonstration of 278 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: a rapport between a quarterback and receiver where they can 279 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: trust each other to be in the right spot. Put 280 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: the ball on me in the right spot, and that's 281 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: how you come through in a game like this. 282 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not gonna just talk only positive about the Lions, 283 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: like the whole time. 284 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: But it really is so impressive. You know, I'm on ride. 285 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: It's another one where you look at the box score, 286 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: seven for seventy seven and a touchdown, great night on 287 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: eight targets. But the last two weeks watching this, dude, 288 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: you understand why Jared Goff made those comments to Troy 289 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: Aikman that it's the best receiver he's ever played with. 290 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: And you think about some of the guys he played 291 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 4: with with the Rams, and I get it, Like he 292 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: really is that dude, and like the sharpness of his 293 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: route running everything was awesome. Let's change gears a little 294 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 4: bit and talk a little bit about the Lions defense 295 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: in this game. You know, you'll see that the Ravens 296 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: put up thirty points, but ultimately the Lions defense gets 297 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: seven sacks in this game. The pressure rate wasn't that different, 298 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: but they did a nice job sacking Lamar Jackson. They 299 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: forced punts in key spots, and they made some big 300 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: time plays. Let's go back all the way to the 301 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: end of that second quarter and think about that goal 302 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: line stand. And I know the Ravens ended up scoring 303 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: at the end of that half, but it was one 304 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: of many moments tonight you realize like, yeah, the Lion's defense, 305 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: they might not be that deep up front, but they 306 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: absolutely came to play. 307 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: Let's go to the fourth down call out of the gun. 308 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Jackson's got it, run into his right, wants. 309 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: To throw now press the ball's loose on the ground. 310 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: It is recovered by Jackson, but it does not matter. 311 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: That's Lions football. 312 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: A fourth down stop by this team. 313 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 5: Jackson tried to roll out, had a run pass option 314 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 5: and Jack Campbell was there to knock that ball. 315 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: Who So I think it's absolutely fair to criticize Lamar 316 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: Jackson for holding the ball too long, not throwing the 317 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: ball away, maybe sometimes assuming he was gonna get away. 318 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: But on that play and a couple other shots where 319 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: they gave us the all twenty two like vision, there 320 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: was no one really open. I don't think there was 321 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: anywhere for Lamar Jackson to go on that play, Like 322 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: what did you see out of the coverage and just 323 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: everything that they were throwing at him. And from Kelvin Shepherd, 324 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: the new defensive coordinator. 325 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's the downside of that play, which the Ravens, 326 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: that's like their favorite play to run in two point 327 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: situations in fourth and short on the goal line situations. 328 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: They've done it before. It has not worked. Sometimes it 329 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: has worked. Sometimes Mark Andrews drops the ball on a 330 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: divisional playoff game for a two point conversion like that happens, 331 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: But they love to run this play. And I think 332 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: for the first time Lamar encountered a situation in which 333 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: he had nowhere to go and no idea what to do, 334 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: because when you roll the short side of the field, 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: you are limiting the amount of space that you can 336 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: work with everything's flowing that way, you're gonna have to 337 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: completely change direction. And he's already under rest because of 338 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: this Lions defense. And it was a great example I 339 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: think of also preparation a team that knows this is 340 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: what they like to do in that situation, We're gonna 341 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: bottle it up with the right coverage and shut them 342 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: down like that. And I think it kind of typified 343 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: the whole night, or a lot of the night for 344 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: the Lions defense, which, by the way, we gotta put 345 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: some respect on this Lions defense's name for what they 346 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: did bottling up Lamar Jackson tonight. It just typified the 347 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: whole night. They were able to get after him consistently. 348 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: They were disciplined in their contain and in their rush 349 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: lanes and in their tackling. And yes they forced the 350 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: fumble there because Lamar holds onto the ball too long. 351 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: But Lamar is not gonna just throw it away in 352 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: that situation. He's gonna try to make a play. And 353 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: ultimately it was a big play in a game that 354 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: didn't end up meaning all that much, I guess, but 355 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: at the time it was another one of those statements 356 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: that hey, we're not gonna be another one of those 357 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: teams that almost picks you off twice and then gives 358 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: up a touchdown like they did later. We're gonna be 359 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: that team that fights all the way through all four downs. 360 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 361 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: See, I'm like a process not just the results guy too, 362 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: And I think it just is part of a night 363 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: where they just kept battling, and yeah, like the Ravens, 364 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: if you think about it, had to hit a lot 365 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: of really impressive throws to win. Not saying that Goff didn't, 366 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: but in the trenches, we've already talked about it. It 367 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: just was such a mismatch. The Lions offensive line beasted 368 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: the Ravens defensive line on the ground, the Lions defensive 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: line beasted the Ravens offensive line when they tried to run. 370 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: So it came down to ultimately, like could they get 371 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: enough pressure on Lamar Jackson because it turned into a 372 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: game where he had to just throw all the time. 373 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: And for a while I was ready to come on 374 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: here and talk about like, well, Aiden Hutchinson not really 375 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: quite looking like himself. The pressure rate is pretty low, 376 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: and then by the end of the game you look 377 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: up and it's a forty percent pressure rate. 378 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: It's the sacks. 379 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: It's not letting him get out as a runner, I think, 380 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: which was really impressive. Al ka He Muhammad, who you know, 381 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: was picked up off the scrap. He he was on 382 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: the practice squad at pretty large sections of last season 383 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: for the Lions, like he couldn't even make their active roster. 384 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: He was making a lot of plays. The linebackers were 385 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: really good. Angelone actually had a number of quick pressures 386 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: on blitzes, and in the end, Hutchinson made a couple 387 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: of the biggest plays of the game with a sack 388 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: and also knocking the ball out of Derrick Henry's hands. 389 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: Man Derrick Henry is having a rough go of it 390 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 4: in the last what is it, nine quarters of this 391 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: season after an unreal start to the season. If someone 392 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: had said after like the third quarter of that Bills game, 393 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: that Derrick Henry would kind of be a problem for 394 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: the Ravens at the end of Week three, like I 395 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: never would have believed it. But not only is he 396 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: fumbling every game, one in each game, and two of 397 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: those fumbles were absolutely killers, But they're not getting consistent runs. 398 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: He had that touchdown run, but other than that, it 399 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 4: was a pretty rough game. And again, you have to 400 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to like the team defense 401 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 4: of the Lions, even if it's not a ton of 402 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 4: indivis stars. 403 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Lions did a good job of 404 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: knocking the Ravens out of their rhythm with the way 405 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: that they played defensively, and all of that had to 406 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: do with stopping Lamar Jackson on passing downs. Now, it 407 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: wasn't perfect. He still completed a lot of those passes, 408 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, out of structure, improvising that's what he's going 409 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: to do. But their coverage, they were versatile on coverage. 410 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: Acording to the next Gen, they ran zone fifty five 411 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: point three percent of the time. The rest of it 412 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: was man, that's pretty balanced. They got sacks in both looks, 413 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: whether it was man or zone, and most importantly, they 414 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: threw them out of their rhythm to the point that, 415 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: like Derrick Henry after they got that goal line stand, 416 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry got three carries in the second half until 417 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: that one that he fumbled, and I had a thought 418 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: to myself, I'm like, I feel like I haven't seen 419 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: Dereck Henry on the field in ages like this is 420 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 2: a close game. He is a runner who can you know, 421 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: balance and pace your offense really well, and he hasn't 422 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: been out there. Then he gets a carry right after 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: I have that thought. Any fumbles and it completely changes 424 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: the game from there. 425 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy because that that was a moment. And 426 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: I'm seeing a comment by the way from our friend 427 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: Will Gavin, who is on his way home now. Will 428 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 4: Gavin is a host. If you guys are are UK fans, 429 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: you're probably not listening unless it's the audio version. 430 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: But because it's four thirty in the morning. 431 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: Right now, I'm gonna be joining Will on Talk Sport 432 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: to help call the game in Dublin on Sunday and 433 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: the following game in London the week after with the 434 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: Brownies and the Vikings and of course the Steelers and 435 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: the Vikings this week, and he says, Man, the Ravens 436 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: losing in the trenches so badly for someone had them 437 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, it's tough to watch. Keep up 438 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: the good work, boys, So I like hearing that. But 439 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: the defense is actually what I feel more differently about, 440 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, coming out of this game, because if you 441 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: think about their team build this offseason, and Brad Holmes 442 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: is one of the best to do it, they really 443 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: invested in run stoppers in the middle of their defense. 444 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: They have DJ Reader as their free agent from a 445 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: few years ago that's now healthy again. And Tylee Williams, 446 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: a guy who I know, you know, you looked at 447 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 4: lot in the draft and there aren't many teams putting 448 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: two guys like that who are really run stoppers and 449 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: not you know, pass rusher type defensive lineman on the 450 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: field almost every snap, and it really paid off tonight. 451 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and guess who made a little shoe string tackle 452 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: on Lamar Jackson when he tried to take off DJ Reader. 453 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: Guess who was there to fill the run lane? Dj 454 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: Reader and Tyler Williams. 455 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: Let's go. 456 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I felt so good, and I almost felt like, God, 457 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: I'm an idiot for not giving them more respectfuling to 458 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: this game. But then again, who among us expected al 459 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: Kadeen Muhammad to have two and a half sacks, to 460 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: be a constant closer when the Lions effectively caged up 461 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, which it takes me back to when I 462 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: worked for the Browns of twenty nineteen. I remember talking 463 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: to those guys when they went in their Week four 464 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: game against the Ravens that year in Baltimore, and I 465 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: was like, how do you stop Lamar? He's having a 466 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: great year, And they just said, you got a Cajun. 467 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: You got a Cajun. We got to keep him in 468 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: a box. You got to make sure he doesn't escape. 469 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: The Lions did that perfectly, and so many teams don't 470 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: do that. The Lions personnel did not suggest that they 471 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: would do that, And that's why we need to put 472 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: respect on their names. Because of guys like al Kadeen Muhamed, 473 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: because of a veteran like DJ Reader, and of course 474 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: because of Aiden Hutchinson, a guy who Baltimore gets so 475 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: concerned about him, they slide their protection to the left 476 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: and he just splits two guys and gets right after 477 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Lamar for a crushing sack and a key moment in 478 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: the game. Everybody on this defense, Alex Angeloni's spying Jack 479 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: Campbell back there at the second level. They all made plays. 480 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: They played so cohesively, and that's why I thinks everybody 481 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: who watches the NFL is going to see the lines 482 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: more seriously because of the performance that they gave on 483 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. 484 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: To Knight, they got away with lining up in base 485 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: defense most of the night, and by base defense that 486 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: means three linebackers essentially on the field. Almost no teams 487 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: do that at this point, but they had that sort 488 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 4: of vision again with the team build bigger linebackers, and 489 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 4: I mean in terms of guys like Derek Barnes, who 490 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: was like an old school also had a great game 491 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: side right like also had a great game, like an 492 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: old school strong side linebacker, kind of the run stopper 493 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: who's almost been like legislated out of the league, like 494 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 4: that sort of player, but he can blitz. 495 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: He's versatile enough. 496 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 4: I think like a faster, more dynamic team could take 497 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: advantage of that. Maybe if you have Isaiah likely in 498 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: this game you know when the Ravens are lining up 499 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 4: in two tight end sets throughout most of the game, 500 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: but they haven't quite gotten the mix with all their receivers. Now, 501 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: I do want to note, like Lamar had some dimes 502 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: in this game. Oh yeah, I'm just gonna mention a few. 503 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: And actually it kind of points out now that I 504 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: think about about it, how tough the Lions defense was playing, 505 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 4: because I felt like there were more easy throws for 506 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: Jared Goff throughout the course of the night. There was 507 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: a throw early in the game on third and long 508 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 4: where Lamar is rolling left, throws it across his body 509 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: to Bateman on the sideline for ten yards like an 510 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: incredibly low, you know, percentage type of throw. 511 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: Hits that. 512 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: Then he goes tes Walker deep down the field. That 513 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: was a beautiful throw. He had the crazy sideline throw 514 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: to Nu Hopkins where you thought after it got over 515 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: the underneath defender, that thing's going out of bounce and 516 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: he just like drops it in there. I love the 517 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: third and long to Rashad Bateman when they were down 518 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: twenty eight to twenty one and they're driving and he 519 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: has to hit a whole shot and be patient and 520 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 4: throw anticipation over the middle. Like these were high level throws. 521 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: He also had that touchdown to Mark Andrews early in 522 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: the second half, So like there were a lot of 523 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: amazing plays hell just to get Jerry Sandusky into the show. 524 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: Let's listen to a Ravens highlight. Let's listen to the 525 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 4: Mark Andrews touchdown to start the second half. 526 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: You hate to settle for a field goal. Lamar Jackson 527 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: from the shotgun. 528 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: Throws towards the end zone looking for Andrews. 529 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: He's got a touchdown, Mark Andrews driving glob along the 530 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: sideline and the Ravens have their first lead of nights. 531 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: But that was a great throw and a great catch, 532 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: bark Mark Andrews. 533 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: Ah, that was a great throw. That was Rod Woodson, 534 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: who knows a great throw when he sees it, Like, 535 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: what did you see there? 536 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Shook, threaded, absolutely threaded, and from the distance, because like, yeah, 537 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: I think it was a fourteen yard touchdown pass, but 538 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: the distance you know, from where Lamar was to the 539 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: corner of the end zone makes it a lot longer. 540 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: Couldn't be placed better, I mean, could not be placed 541 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: better in the pocket where Andrews can make that grab. 542 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: Just inside the pylon, just outside the outstretched reach of 543 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: the def nearest defender. You know, I watched that route develop. 544 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: I think it was branch and coverage and I and 545 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: I know it was Angelonian coverage. And I'm watching him 546 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: run with him and I'm like, he's covered pretty well, 547 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: and Lamar throws it and I'm like, oh, he's gonna 548 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: have to fit this one in boom right, and that 549 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: it's like thread in a needle, just just right through 550 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: the eye of the needle for a touchdown. That's what 551 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: Lamar is capable of doing. It. He had a number 552 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: of throws like this, like you said tonight, And I 553 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: think that will get lost in the aftermath conversation about 554 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: this game, because the wait get. 555 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: Lost in our comments right now, people are are killing Lamar. 556 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: I think multiple things can be true. 557 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the other thing that's true is that Lamar 558 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: needs to figure out how to operate in the pocket 559 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: and not give himself so much time sometimes because it 560 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: hurt them when sometimes you can just take off for 561 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: a gain of five. And I think that they will 562 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: correct that going forward because it definitely hurt them tonight. 563 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Both things can be true, You're right, but I have. 564 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: A feeling like he's not someone that when you watch 565 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: the film, has open receivers and doesn't let go of 566 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: the ball. I think what the Lions showed him tonight 567 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: with mostly zone coverage like worked. There weren't that many 568 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: open receivers and at least they were mudding up the picture. 569 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: After that Andrews fumble, they go three and out where 570 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 4: he takes a sack. On that drive, they have to 571 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: go ten plays just to get thirty nine yards. On 572 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: that drive that I mentioned where he hits the ball 573 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: over the middle to Bateman, there were a lot of 574 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 4: penalties involved here. Then Derrick Henry fumbles the ball. And 575 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: then really the killer was when they got the ball 576 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: back with six thirty five to go and they go 577 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: three and out. They end up with a fourth and nine. 578 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: There another drive that starts with a big time sack. 579 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 4: And at first it was like these plays where Lamar 580 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: is trying to get out of trouble and he's just 581 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: taken down for no gain. And as the game is 582 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: wearing on, like he is taking bigger and bigger deficits 583 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: in terms of like longer sacks, And I think multiple things. 584 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: Can be true. 585 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: This game is on the Ravens defense obviously, and the 586 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: running game, like the passing game was by far the 587 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: best part of the Ravens. I mean, the freaking Ravens 588 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: gave up two to ninety five yard plus drives. That's outrageous. 589 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 4: We haven't even mentioned that. There was an eighteen play 590 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: ninety eight yard drive. You mentioned it, but that was 591 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: the longest drive of course in the NFL this season 592 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: in terms of minutes, ten minutes and forty eight seconds. 593 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: But Joe Buck mentioned there hasn't been a drive over 594 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: ninety five yards against the Ravens defense in Baltimore for 595 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: over twenty years. 596 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: They gave up two of them tonight. 597 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: So on a night like that where Derrick Henry has 598 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: a terrible success rate and your defense plays like that 599 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: and Dereck Henry fubbles the ball in the fourth quarter, 600 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is not number one on your biggest issues. 601 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: That said, like the accusations that he can be like 602 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: a little amped up in games, I do wonder about 603 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 4: that sometimes because early on, like you're watching him on 604 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: the sideline when they went three and out early, like 605 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: he was so frustrated early in that game, and you 606 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: can see just like the tension. I hate being the 607 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: body language doctor. A lot of players play well when 608 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: they're angry. I'm not saying that they couldn't, but you 609 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: just can almost like feel the anxiety coming off of 610 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: that sideline between Lamar and then of course Derrick Henry, 611 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, crashing out a. 612 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: Little bit later. 613 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: Like I do think, like you holding onto the ball 614 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 4: so long like that feels like a little bit of 615 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: a little bit of tightness, even though there was a 616 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: lot of great plays in between. 617 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: I do think there is. 618 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: It's fair to like point out there's something to that 619 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: for the Lamar haters out there, which I am not one, 620 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: but you know, there's something to it. 621 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a Lamar hater either, but I hate 622 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: to be this guy in this moment. I see a 623 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: trend in the Baltimore Ravens over the last few years 624 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: that we witnessed tonight, which is that when they meet 625 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: a team that is at their level that they cannot 626 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: bully offensively, that they cannot shut down defensively and then 627 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: just run over them with Derrick Henry or with Lamar 628 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: or whatever. They get tight, they play tight, they make mistakes, 629 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: They let the pressure of the moment consume them sometimes 630 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 2: and I think what you just described is exactly what 631 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: that was. And there were periods in this game where 632 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: I felt as if the Ravens were overcoming that and 633 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: they were just going to be the better team and 634 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: end up winning a game, because, for example, the Ravens 635 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: take the lead twenty one to fourteen after the Lions 636 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: go three and out, the Lions go three and out 637 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: after that goal line stand, and the play calling is 638 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: a little questionable, the Ravens cash in to end the 639 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: first half. There were just a few periods in this 640 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: game where I'm like, the Lions are like one miscue, 641 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: one big Derrick Henry run, one big Lamar Jackson play 642 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: away from being down multiple scores, and maybe they don't 643 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: have enough to come back, and they never got there. 644 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: And I think that frustrated the Ravens and the miscues 645 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: and the small errors in detail. A guy maybe not 646 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: running a route where Lamar wants and he underthrows the ball, 647 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: or it looks like he under throws the ball because 648 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: the receiver's not where he wants them to be. Lamar 649 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: not being able to break the pocket and take off 650 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: for runs when he thinks they're there, guy's not getting open. 651 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: I think all of that compounded and you saw the 652 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: effects of it capped by the Derrick Henry fubble late 653 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter where they're like, Wow, we're really 654 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: gonna lose this big game at home on primetime right now, 655 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: I can't believe this. We're the Baltimore Ravens. We're not 656 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: supposed to do this. Well, guess what you also play 657 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL where the Browns beat the Packers on Sunday. 658 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: Things like that happen. 659 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: Hey, let's starting on them. 660 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: Hey, the Browns and the Ravens have the same record 661 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, Like if you just like, if you 662 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: just said who's played better? And I don't think the 663 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: Ravens have played better this season necessarily than the Browns. 664 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: The Browns outplayed the Bengals in Week one. I know 665 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: they got beat forty one to ten. 666 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm just saying the comline. 667 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: Defensively, the Browns have played better than the Ravens, but 668 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: offensively it's not even in the same pace. 669 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: I need to say is that I feel like the 670 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: both of these teams should be two and one, and 671 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: it's not that big good. 672 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: Difference that could be true, that could be true. 673 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: It's such a long season, but the road to the 674 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: one seed is going to be harder starting off at 675 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: one and two. You know, you're in a division where 676 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: Jake Browning and Aaron Rodgers respect to him, but not 677 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: playing the best quarterback right now are quarterbacking the teams 678 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: that are currently in first place. Like, I'm not that 679 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: concerned about the Ravens long term. To me, this is 680 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: more about the Lions. But when we talk about the tightness, 681 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: to me, it's more just like expectations. It's not like 682 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: that they're getting nervous and that they can't perform well 683 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: in big game. It's just they've lost so many of 684 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: these heartbreakers. They've lost so many big leads, they've been 685 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: on the cuss. They've been the best regular season offense 686 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 4: now for three straight years. And it's just the expectations, 687 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: and I think those are sometimes difficult to manage as 688 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: a team. And it's one of the reasons why I'm 689 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: really impressed with how the Lions have responded after Week one, 690 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: because they're also in this cycle of they've never been 691 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 4: here before, right shook and where they're you know, they're 692 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: now like deep into this run of like trying to 693 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: stay at the top. And I think that's the hardest 694 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: thing to do in the NFL, is stay at the top, 695 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: and the Ravens and the Lions, that's exactly what they're 696 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: trying to do. 697 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: There's one difference between those two teams. One of them 698 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: plays in the same conference that's occupied by the Kansas 699 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: City Chiefs and the other one doesn't. And I think 700 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: when you know that you have that team to take down, 701 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: you realize, like, yeah, I mean until they're not there, 702 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: they're there. I think that adds a little bit more pressure. 703 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: And this is a measuring stick game and you know that, 704 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: and so I just think it adds a little bit more. 705 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: And they have a longer history of not getting the 706 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: job done than the Lions do. And also, you know, 707 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: this is no shot at John Harbaugh at all. Hell 708 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: of a coach. But there's something about Dan Campbell in 709 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: the way that he trusts his guys and goes forward 710 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: on fourth down and all those things and wears his 711 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: heart in his sleeve that just seems to invigorate a 712 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: team and creates a culture of that maybe they'll band 713 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: together and rally together when the adversity strikes that maybe 714 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: the Ravens don't have that same mental toughness in them, 715 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: not necessarily on the coach, but just on the key 716 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: figures in each franchise. I think that is one of 717 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: the factors that played into this game tonight. 718 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we'd say that the team takes on the 719 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: personality of their head coach. You know, when I was 720 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: talking about like that, you know, Dereck Henry being a 721 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: little tight on the sideline, and John Harbaugh is like 722 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: the number one guy we made a little bit before 723 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: the season, like of any coach that I like, I'm 724 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: literally afraid of John Harbor. There is so much boiling 725 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 4: beneath the surface. I feel like at all times when 726 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: it is not going well, there is like an anxiety 727 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: and attention and his decision making in big spots has 728 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: not been amazing. And you compare that to Dan Campbell, 729 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: and yeah, maybe maybe it does rub off on the 730 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: rest of the team. All right, I'm doing a little 731 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 4: schedule watching because we're talking Browns, right, and then we're 732 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 4: talking Chiefs, and those teams have matchups against these teams 733 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 4: coming up. So the Lions get this win, they have 734 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: a tricky game. I think it's fair to say The 735 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: Browns are tricky at this point considering how good their 736 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: defense is. They have the Browns next week in Detroit, 737 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: then at Cincinnati, at Kansas City, and then the Tampa 738 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers before their bye week. The Ravens, on the 739 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: other hand, go right from this blood bath on the 740 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 4: road on a short week to Kansas City in theory 741 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: one of their biggest games of the year before heading 742 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: home for the Texans and the Rams before their bye week. 743 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: Really interesting schedules for both these teams, and we're just 744 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 4: getting started. But you look at those schedules and they 745 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 4: are going to be tested in a lot of these games, 746 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 4: and they are both going to be challenged to not 747 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: get to their bye week with like a three to 748 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: three type of record. 749 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. If you want to wash the waves, Yeah, if 750 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: you want to wash away the sour taste in your 751 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: mouth from this and make all the haters shut up, 752 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: you go beat the Chiefs next week, and you do it. 753 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: It's a game in pretty dominant fashion, and I think 754 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: that their strengths matchup well against the Chiefs. And then 755 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: at that point people forget a little bit about what 756 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: happened against the Lions tonight, like it can all change. 757 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: But it puts so much on that game though, and 758 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: we will get into it. 759 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: But that's the beauty of the NFL. Every week it matters. 760 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: In every week matters more. And it's a funny thing. 761 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 4: I always think about the early part of the season. 762 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 4: The bigger games to me, having watched you know for 763 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: so many years, is the bigger games early in the 764 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: season are actually with the good teams that are off 765 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 4: to slow starts, Like it would be great, it'd be fun. 766 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 4: I bet CBS would love it if Ravens Chiefs was 767 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 4: a battle of undefeated, isn't that game bigger? 768 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: Now that they're both one and two? 769 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 4: One of those two teams with very challenging schedules ahead 770 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 4: of them is going to be one in three. 771 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: And if you. 772 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: Thought, like the tension with Travis Kelcey bumping Andy Reid 773 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: or the tension of Derrick Henry like falling over on 774 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: the sideline was bad after this week, like how about 775 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: you lose to your other AFC rivals next week? And 776 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 4: so it really sets up like a fascinating matchup there. 777 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 4: And the Lions, on the other hand, can breathe a 778 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: little bit of a sigh relief. Book Man that they 779 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: would love nothing more to beat up on the Chiefs. 780 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 4: That in a couple of weeks too, the Bucks are 781 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: on the schedule coming up, which is gonna be big, 782 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 4: and I just love it. Before we move on from 783 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: this game, and we are gonna do some news very 784 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: quickly on this show because there were some big time 785 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 4: injury news. It is time for delivering results presented by 786 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: Uber Eats. And no one, and I mean no one 787 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 4: deserves this honor more than the Lions offensive line and 788 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 4: their running backs. And I am talking about David Montgomery. 789 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: We've hit a couple of his highlights already. Let's go 790 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 4: to the big seventy two yard rush in the second 791 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: half of this game. 792 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: I center, there's the snap Jared Hans to Montgomery. 793 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: Montgomery. 794 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: There it goes across twenty twenty five. 795 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: He goes middle of the fields to the fifty tank 796 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: thing right at the forty five down, to the thirty down, 797 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: to the twenty taking. 798 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 5: Down from behind it the fifteen yard line. 799 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: David Montgomery running for daylight and running big for these 800 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. 801 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, oh man, twelve for one, fifty one 802 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 4: and two. I was watching that still with my son 803 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: and my wife and Emmaica just goes like. 804 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: I thought he was faster, and Walker is like, no, 805 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 3: that's Gibbs. 806 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 4: But uh, don't dog on David Montgomery because that bursts 807 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: through the whole is fantastic. His ability to make people 808 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: miss and his freaking toughness. Shout out to Brad Holmes 809 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 4: and David and Dan Campbell for making him one of 810 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 4: their very first free agent signings, saying there he is 811 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 4: going to set the tempo and the really the mo 812 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 4: o for this team and that that dou ah. They 813 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: wouldn't be as good without each other. They were just 814 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: a lot of fun to watch. 815 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's thunder and lightning right there, and 816 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 2: we saw them both in action. It was Gibbs early, 817 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: it was Gibbs and short yardage. Then it was Montgomery 818 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: and short yardage, and then it was Montgomery ripping off the 819 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: big game. It was Montgomery closing the game with another 820 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 2: big run down the side then where he did look 821 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: fast enough to get the job done. I love We've 822 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: already talked about it. I love offensive line play when 823 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: it works well, when you run duo and then your 824 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: bulldozer of our running back who still got burst gets 825 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: through the hole and rips off a big one. They 826 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: out raven the Ravens tonight, and it was because of 827 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: guys like them. 828 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, that's just what they do when they 829 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 4: need a play. It's especially like if they're in like 830 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: a second and long situation, especially they just run duo. 831 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 4: Explain to the listeners what that means, because that's like real, 832 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: no nonsense. They're not trying to fool your power football exactly. 833 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: That's when you when you dedicate two blockers to one 834 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: guy with the idea of getting one of them to 835 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 2: the second level, and you just bully the first guy 836 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: off the line, create an initial run lane. The second 837 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: guy gets the second level, creates you a second And 838 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: that's exactly what Montgomery did and followed, except he also 839 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: broke a tackle on his way out, which is really 840 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 2: what sprung him for the massive gain and to show 841 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: off those wheels that may not be as fast as Gibbs, 842 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: but they're still fast enough. 843 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. 844 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: And yes we went a little long on Lions Ravens, 845 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 4: but these are two teams into me in the inner 846 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: circle of possible teams we could see in Santa Clara 847 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 4: in February and they delivered an incredible game that was 848 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: delivering results. Presented by Uber Eats, where you can get 849 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 4: the best deals on game day food all season long, 850 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 4: the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order Now, 851 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 4: because you know, it's probably early somewhere, and yeah, it's 852 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 4: never too late to I still kind of want to 853 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 4: snack after this game. Okay, We're gonna do some news 854 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 4: and I appreciate everyone, you know commenting that the Ravens 855 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: are lost and everything's you know, just calm down. 856 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: It's still se This team. 857 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 4: More than anyone else, traditionally improves at least in the 858 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: regular season. 859 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 3: Late. 860 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 4: We are going to rank the news items that came 861 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 4: out today in injuries in order of how I believe 862 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 4: it will impact these teams. And we'll be quick on it, 863 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 4: but some of them are pretty big. Nothing bigger than 864 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: Nick Bosa being out for the season with a torn ACL. 865 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a history. He has a 866 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: history of a torny acl. He is their best player 867 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: on the defensive front. They underwent a lot of changes 868 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: in the offseason on the defensive front with the idea 869 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: that hey, we're gonna trim salary, but we have Nick 870 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 2: Bosa there to still rush the passer. Now you lose him, Greg, 871 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: I watched the game against the Cardinals on Sunday and 872 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: they win that one, and I'm like, I cannot freaking 873 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: believe that the San Francisco forty nine Ers are three 874 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: and zero because they continue to lose guys. Yeah, they 875 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: continue to win games. Bryce Huff had a nice game 876 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: against Arizona, but he's not Nick Bosa. They invested in 877 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: Mikel Williams. He's young, Like it does concern me, but 878 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm also not gonna sound the alarm bells because they've been, 879 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: you know, managing all these injuries so far in they're 880 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: three to zero, but it is a crushing blow for them, 881 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: for sure, just because of your in terms of defensive 882 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: potential and what you can do to get after a passer. 883 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: It's gonna put that much more stress on their fantastic 884 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 2: linebacking due a Fred Warner and d Winners and on 885 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: that secondary and you hope that they can make it through. 886 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: So far they are, but it's a big loss. 887 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: It's huge. 888 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 4: I listened to a forty nine Ers podcast sometimes called 889 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 4: Candlestick Chronicles, and they thought he was the most irreplaceable 890 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 4: guy on the entire roster, at least going into the 891 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 4: season because of the. 892 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: Total lack of depth in their mind. 893 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: Now now three weeks in, Bryce Huff has been better 894 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 4: than you could have ever expected. He can give you 895 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: some pass rush juice. He's not a number one, but 896 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 4: he's been better. Mikel Williams, their first round pick, is 897 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 4: in that Aric Armstead mold as a good run stopper. 898 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: You can play him inside. 899 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: He really looks like a good pick, top fifteen pick, 900 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 4: and he looks like it not a big time pass rusher. 901 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 4: They're gonna have to manufacture some pass rush. They are 902 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 4: a good team defense. I think Robert Sala has really 903 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 4: helped their defense overall. But it's just a huge fall 904 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: and you do wonder if with Bosa out, those two 905 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 4: guys won't get to be as effective as they've been. 906 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 4: I think they are a huge candidate to go pick 907 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 4: up someone because the forty nine ers are about that life. 908 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 4: Now we'll see who's you know, trading defensive ends well, 909 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 4: the Saints want to trade like a Carl Granderson or 910 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 4: a Cam Jordan like there will be players available generally 911 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 4: these types of trades, it's not gonna be blockbuster, but 912 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 4: like a Carl Granderson, for instance, from the Saints for 913 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: like a fourth or a fifth round pick, he's gonna 914 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 4: play valuable snaps. Those are the types of moves that 915 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: I'm talking about, because if you look at the forty 916 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 4: nine ers schedule. 917 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 3: It's pretty It's pretty cake. 918 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: The rest to the way, Like this division is great 919 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 4: and not everyone can make it right now, they're all 920 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: above five hundred, but the out of division schedules pretty cake. 921 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 4: So I would think that they will make a move 922 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 4: because I think their offense can get better as they 923 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 4: get Brandon ayukback, as obviously they get Rock Purty back, 924 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 4: and just get healthier in general on offense. 925 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think about who might be available 926 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 2: outside of a team like the Saints, because, like I 927 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: they're not going to trade Cameron Jordan. It's well, they're 928 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 2: not gonna get the return that makes it worthwhile. I 929 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 2: think even at this point in his career, just because 930 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: he's a Saints legend, but like you do have to 931 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: swing some. 932 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: Sort of someone from the Titans like arden Key, Like 933 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 4: there are some gross looking teams out there. Would Cavon 934 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 4: Thibodeau be available if they're one in six in MIDDI yeah, 935 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 4: you know this is this is a conversation probably for 936 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 4: another day. 937 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 3: And I. 938 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 4: You know, on one hand, you know, you really feel 939 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: for Bosa and anyone who has a big time injured 940 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 4: like this. On the other hand, man, the forty nine 941 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 4: ers are almost like a case study in the risks 942 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 4: of putting so much of your salary cap into just 943 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 4: a handful of players. Every guy they give a monster 944 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 4: contract to has like a major injury, doesn't the players 945 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 4: deserve it? So you know, I always believe they deserve it. 946 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: But cmc Aric Armstead a couple of years ago that 947 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 4: happened exactly to him, and then like right when he 948 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 4: got a contract, Brandon Ayuk now Nick Bosa, I might 949 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 4: be forgetting Dre Greenlaw got a nice contract for them 950 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 4: and then got hurt. There there's just been a lot 951 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: of bad luck. The Cowboys have had some bad luck too. 952 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 4: This is number two on my list for affecting them. 953 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: Can they win games? Shook without ceed Lamb and their 954 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 4: guard Tyler Booker, their first round pick. Both of them 955 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: will be out multiple weeks with high ankle springs. Ceed 956 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 4: Lamb will not be put on IR. They want to 957 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: evaluate it really after a couple games and see if 958 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 4: he has a chance to return after that. 959 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know why they're valuing after a couple of 960 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: games because they saw how bad their offense was with 961 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: him out of the game in Chicago on Sunday and 962 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: how much it hurt. I mean, Dak's playing great football, 963 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 2: but you your guard in Tyler Booker, who's played, you know, 964 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: really well for a rookie, and then you lose your 965 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: top targeted receiver and suddenly all you're left with is 966 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson and George Pickens. That's a big loss, and 967 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: that's a big loss for a team that is going 968 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: to be heavily dependent on their offense because their defense 969 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: can't stop a nosebleed. So that's why you give yourself 970 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 2: the shorter runway or the possibility of it by evaluating 971 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: in two weeks. Because the hih ankle sprain is not 972 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: a quick turn, and unless he's young enough to heal quickly, 973 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be more wish casting than actual reality, 974 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: and that's gonna hurt them, and especially you know where 975 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 2: they are as a team right now. You know they're 976 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: one and two and They're coming off of a loss 977 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: in which they looked significantly worse than the team they 978 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: played in the second half in Chicago, and I just 979 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 2: don't see it getting any better for them because they 980 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,479 Speaker 2: can't stop anybody defensively and now their offense is gonna 981 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: be weaker. Oh no, by the way, the date with 982 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 2: Mike Parsons and the Packers is next week. Maybe they 983 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: get a bit of a reprieve by week five at 984 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: the Jets and then the Panthers week six, But I 985 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: don't know. Man. The vibes are not good with this 986 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: team right now, and this does not help at all. 987 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 4: No, there are only chance to having a fun season 988 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 4: was gonna be able to outscore teams, and you just 989 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 4: can't do it with Ceedee Lamb and two missing offensive lineman. 990 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 4: Remember they also lost their their starting center for six 991 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 4: to eight weeks, So that's two interior offensive linemen that 992 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 4: are gonna be out. 993 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. 994 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 4: They're gonna be one and three, and their only chance, 995 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 4: you know, schedule wise, to kind of get to that 996 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 4: relevance and win those shootouts were to win the games 997 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 4: like Carolina and against the Jets like you have to 998 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 4: win those games, and that's going to be more difficult 999 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 4: without Ceedee Lamb and Tyler Booker, who, like I said, 1000 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 4: it's gonna be out a couple weeks all right. Number three, 1001 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 4: and these are ranked in order of how it will 1002 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 4: impact Stanley's number one in my eyes, of how much 1003 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: you feel for the player. It's tough to rank this 1004 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 4: because Naja Harris is coming up at number four, But 1005 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 4: I just love James Connor and he's been really set 1006 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 4: back by injuries. Obviously overcame cancer early in his career, 1007 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 4: so to hear he is out with a broken ankle, 1008 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 4: not a surprise after what we saw on the field, 1009 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 4: but beyond you know, feeling for him, like what do 1010 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 4: you think this does for their running attack this season 1011 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: shook which really hasn't been great even with Connor there. 1012 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna talk about how I feel about him, 1013 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 2: just because I talked to him about his battle with 1014 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: cancer years ago and he was just a super nice 1015 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: guy and he's a got easy to root for. He's 1016 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: also been the identity of this Cardinal's rushing attack. I mean, 1017 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: he's been there since twenty twenty one, which I was 1018 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: reminded of today. I can't believe time is flying by 1019 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: that fast. And he's let them be in rushing every 1020 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 2: year he's been there. His last two seasons, he's broken 1021 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: a thousand yards sometimes for offenses that are pretty limited. 1022 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: They've been pretty limited overall in their first three games, 1023 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: but they dearly missed him when he got hurt in 1024 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 2: this game and they were trying to put one away 1025 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. All they needed was like a first down, 1026 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: and they couldn't get one because they couldn't run the ball. 1027 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: And Mario Dearmercado is not a guy that you run 1028 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: between the tackles consistently. He's more of a guy that 1029 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 2: you're gonna lead as your lean on as a pass 1030 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 2: catching back. You got Trey Benson, who's a second year 1031 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: player who's gonna have to be asked to do a 1032 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 2: lot more. You're probably gonna pick up somebody because those 1033 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 2: are your two remaining guys, essentially, and I don't feel 1034 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: good about the balance of this offense, which is already 1035 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: I'm struggling. Kyler Murray's been all right. His connection with 1036 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior is not consistent. He's more consistent with 1037 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: other pass catchers on his team. You do have Trey McBride. 1038 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 2: He finally caught a touchdown before the last month of 1039 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: the season this year, which is great, But ultimately, like 1040 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: I just, I'm very much concerned about the ceiling of 1041 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: this offense now without James Connor. And it may sound, 1042 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 2: you know, like I'm hitting the panic button and freaking 1043 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 2: everybody out or whatever, but that's how important James Connor 1044 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 2: has been to this offense. There are games last year 1045 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: if he ran well, they probably won, and if he didn't, 1046 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: they lost. And now they don't have him at all, 1047 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: so they got to find a different way to win. 1048 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he didn't look great, but I think it 1049 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 4: was more about the blocking scheme that I think they 1050 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 4: might miss their run game coordinator, their offensive coordator last year, 1051 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 4: Clayton Adams, who's with the Dallas Cowboys. Their run game 1052 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 4: looks fantastic. I do think Trey Benson gives them some juice, 1053 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 4: but this is a team that's mediocre across the board. 1054 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 4: We'll talk about him more on Tuesday show, which is 1055 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 4: only what is it like sixteen hours from now, so 1056 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 4: you don't have to wait long. We'll be previewing T 1057 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 4: and F Jordan Rodriege in the studio. Soon enough, Naje 1058 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 4: Harris I mentioned out for the season with a torn achilles. 1059 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 4: We thought this was coming. I thought he was running 1060 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 4: well this year. And there was a player two on 1061 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 4: Sunday which I think showed the difference between him and 1062 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 4: a mari and Hampton one where he got hit behind 1063 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage on a third and one. Hampton 1064 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 4: is strong, but Na he's even stronger, and he in 1065 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 4: like he he got over the line, and so I 1066 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 4: think they will miss him, but ultimately they still have 1067 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 4: a great back in Hampton and in some depth there, 1068 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 4: so I think they'll be okay. And then another thing 1069 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 4: we'll probably follow up on Tuesday with the Giants Jackson 1070 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 4: Dart situation. Brian Davele said that they're evaluating everything. When 1071 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 4: asked if he's sticking with Russell Wilson, ninety six percent 1072 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 4: chance they're going to Jackson Dart, but let's just talk 1073 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 4: about that when it actually happens, So we'll do that 1074 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 4: on Tuesday. The bigger surprise to me shook was they 1075 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: asked Aaron Glenn if Justin Fields is definitely starting if 1076 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,959 Speaker 4: he gets out of the concussion protoco and he didn't 1077 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 4: give a clear answer for that. 1078 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: Like I'm okay with that, he just was he just. 1079 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: Not ready for the answer. I know Tyron played pretty well, 1080 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 3: but no. 1081 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 2: I think that it's weird because you signed Justin Fields 1082 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 2: to that two year contract with the idea that he's 1083 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: gonna be your guy for the next couple of years 1084 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: and hopefully it works out. But I think that the 1085 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: difference in the way this offense operates not dissimilar to 1086 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 2: the difference the way the Giants offense operates with Russell 1087 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: Wilson versus Jackson Dark Grant. We haven't gotten the regular 1088 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: season sample size on that, but we saw what we 1089 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 2: saw in the preseason. I think that could convince Aaron 1090 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 2: Glenn maybe we stick with Tyrod and he ekes out 1091 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 2: a win for us, or at least gives us a 1092 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,919 Speaker 2: better chance of winning than going back to Justin right away. 1093 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: Give Justin a longer runway. And I also think that 1094 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: they're playing Miami where he senses an opportunity. Oh and 1095 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 2: also it's a primetime game. I don't know if you'd 1096 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 2: probably trust the veteran in Tyrod more than Justin in 1097 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: that scenario. And then you play the Cowboys the week 1098 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: after that, which could oh an opportunity to light it up. 1099 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 4: So what are we talking about. He played two games. 1100 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 4: One was terrible, the whole team was terrible. One was 1101 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 4: an incredible quarterback performance. I feel like you got to 1102 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 4: keep starting Justin Fields because if you get five of those, 1103 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 4: he would have won the game by himself. Like against 1104 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 4: most teams, it was his defense's fault. 1105 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 3: And so I disagree. Here's another thing. 1106 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 2: He's looking for a win. I think he's gonna lean 1107 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: on the veteran. 1108 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 4: Here's another theory. It's a long week, they don't have 1109 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: a practice till Thursday. Those the two quarterbacks are quite different. 1110 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 4: Maybe he's just being for the sake of being, you know, 1111 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 4: like just he's a defensive coach. He knows he doesn't 1112 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 4: want to have to prepare for Justin Fields or Tyrod 1113 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 4: and the difference, and he's just being big. 1114 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 3: We'll find out. 1115 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 4: We'll talk about that later in the week. Appreciate everything 1116 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 4: you do, Shook. You will be back with us on 1117 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 4: Thursday night football. At that time, I actually will be 1118 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 4: in Dublin. So you're handling that game with Jordan Rodrieg. 1119 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 4: But we got a couple big time shows before that, 1120 00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 4: play the music. 1121 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 3: We're ready to go. We've got our Tuesday show. 1122 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 4: We're going to decide what takes I'm bringing with me overseas, 1123 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 4: so we're gonna just try out some big, hot takes. 1124 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 4: After three weeks figure out what the best ones. 1125 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 3: Are. 1126 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 4: Of course, we have our preview show coming up later 1127 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 4: in the week, Man, Ravens and Lyons I thank you. 1128 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 4: When we were thinking about football in the offseason, this 1129 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 4: is the game we were waiting for.