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Speaker 1: Hoover Institution. They are all caught irrefutable evidence. They should

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Speaker 2: Clay, all these things that a lot of people said

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Speaker 2: that Trump was wrong on doesn't look wrong yet.

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Speaker 1: Also reports that we're close to a trade deal with

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Speaker 1: the EU that would be very favorable to the United

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Speaker 1: States as well. I think one of the great stories

442
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Speaker 1: that just kind of slid under the radar was that

443
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Speaker 1: we actually had one of the first balanced budgets in

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Speaker 1: years in June, the month that just passed, and we're

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Speaker 1: on track to bring in hundreds of billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in tariffs, and right now there appears to be zero

447
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Speaker 1: significant inflationary pressure related to it, and I saw a

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Speaker 1: story this morning. Let me give you, let me give

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Speaker 1: a positive shout out again. Marjorie Taylor Green not gonna

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Speaker 1: agree with everybody on everything, but she has introduced a

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Speaker 1: bill and team in New York. Make sure that I'm

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Speaker 1: getting this one hundred percent correct that would eliminate capital

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Speaker 1: gains axes on the sell of your primary residence. One

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Speaker 1: of the big challenges that the Trump team has recognized

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Speaker 1: is the housing market is completely frozen in many respects

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Speaker 1: because Biden's economic stewardship took us from two and a

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Speaker 1: half three percent mortgages almost overnight to seven percent, a

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Speaker 1: rapid raise the likes of which we haven't seen in

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Speaker 1: a very long time. And I come back to it

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Speaker 1: all the time because I think it's foundational in the

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Speaker 1: economy right now that until rates back up to around

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Speaker 1: five percent, a lot of you out there, in fact,

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Speaker 1: you can flood my mentions right now, and let me know,

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Speaker 1: if you bought a home and you have a two

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Speaker 1: and a half percent mortgage rate out there, you're never

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Speaker 1: going to give it up, even if you've added kids,

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Speaker 1: even if your kids have gone away to college, because

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Speaker 1: in order to sell your home, you have to pay

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Speaker 1: capital gains tax and you would have to trade in

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Speaker 1: potentially one low rate mortgage for a seven percent mortgage.

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Speaker 1: And Marjorie Taylor Green, I think this is a really

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Speaker 1: good idea. They're talking about eliminating capital gains taxes on

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Speaker 1: your primary residence. Let me give another shout out. Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis is asking a question that I think is a

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Speaker 1: really good question. Why should you have to pay property

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Speaker 1: taxes every year when you buy a home. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of our taxes are just embedded and nobody goes

478
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Speaker 1: back and ever looks at them and says, boy, does

479
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Speaker 1: that really make sense? I mentioned yesterday on the program

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Speaker 1: I do this show Monday to Friday. The government gets

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Speaker 1: every dollar I make Monday and Tuesday. I work for

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Speaker 1: the United States government on Monday and Tuesday every day

483
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Speaker 1: on this program. They get every dollar that I make.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of you out there, whatever you do

485
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Speaker 1: for a living, the government gets every dollar that you

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Speaker 1: make on Monday and Tuesday too. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 1: That's a lot I'm working really hard for the federal

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Speaker 1: government out there to take all the money that I

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Speaker 1: make on Monday and Tuesday, all year round the rest

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Speaker 1: of my life. And a lot of you are paying

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Speaker 1: fourteen percent state income taxes in California or New York

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Speaker 1: or Illinois, and a lot of you are paying huge

494
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Speaker 1: property tax bills such that over half of your money

495
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Speaker 1: goes to the government every year. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to be dialing that back. The Trump tax cuts are helping,

497
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Speaker 1: but we've also embedded a huge percentage of this. And

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Speaker 1: if we could take away the capital gains tax on homes,

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Speaker 1: I think it would help to free the housing market

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Speaker 1: and make that more lubricated, easier to trade. There are

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Speaker 1: some challenges in the housing market, and specifically homeownership and

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Speaker 1: first time homeowners and the barriers to homes to buying homes.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars, according to the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, is the national median existing home price

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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the average household income, which I think in

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Speaker 1: the US is was like six sixty I think it's

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Speaker 1: up to like seventy seventy seven. I mean, again, household

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Speaker 1: how you define it, but it average household is about

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Speaker 1: seventy seventy five K.

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Speaker 2: I think now.

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Speaker 1: But you look at seventy let's say, let's say seventy

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Speaker 1: ish thousand dollars a year average household income, and you

514
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Speaker 1: look at a four hundred and thirty five thousand in

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Speaker 1: our medium price house with a interest rate of close

516
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Speaker 1: to seven six six point six or something six point eight,

517
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Speaker 1: depends on your credit score obviously, and all that, it's

518
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Speaker 1: really tough to buy a home. It's really tough for

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Speaker 1: the average American right now to buy an for the

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Speaker 1: average American family to buy an average priced American home

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Speaker 1: is a big challenge. Stephen Moore, well known economist Wall

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Speaker 1: Street journal guy, friend of the Trump administration, he said

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Speaker 1: something about this that I think is getting some attention.

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Speaker 1: He's saying that there are a lot of boomers sitting

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Speaker 1: on very expensive housing that they should sell. I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you what Steven Moore is saying is cut eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighteen play it.

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Speaker 9: The one thing probably everybody at this table can agree

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Speaker 9: on is we do have a housing problem in this country,

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Speaker 9: and we need you know, especially for people like I

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Speaker 9: have two so that are in their early thirties, that's

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Speaker 9: about the time when people start talking about buying a house.

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Speaker 2: They can't afford a house.

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Speaker 9: Right now, housing is so expensive, so this is one

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Speaker 9: way you could maybe make housing more affordable, encourage older

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Speaker 9: people to sell out. By the way, what I would

537
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Speaker 9: do is I would index capital gains for inflation. Somebody

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Speaker 9: who bought a house in the seventies for one hundred thousand,

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Speaker 9: that house is probably worth what five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 9: today and most of that gain was just due to inflation.

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Speaker 9: So we want to encourage people to sell their homes

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Speaker 9: as they get older and free up housing for younger people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is important, and I know it sounds like

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Speaker 1: we're going into some nerd talk here when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the economy, But I think Trump gets this. Housing

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Speaker 1: costs matters to everybody. I think Clay, I think everyone

547
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Speaker 1: sees this as a big challenge, a big concern if

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Speaker 1: you can. He said, index capital gains when you sell

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Speaker 1: your home. A lot of people because this is the reality,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure some of you have thought through this.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned, you buy a home in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 1: for one hundred k. Let's say that house is worth

553
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Speaker 1: seven hundred k. Now, which is not crazy. You would

554
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Speaker 1: owe capital gains tax if you sold it on some

555
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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: Income in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a five hundred thousand dollars wipeout, right.

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Speaker 1: But so if you die, your heirs take the home

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Speaker 1: at the value that it is on that day. So

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Speaker 1: instead of having to pay capital gains tax, they take

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Speaker 1: it at Let's say that one hundred thousand dollars house

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Speaker 1: now worth seven hundred k. Your heirs take it at

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Speaker 1: seven hundred k. Well, you out there living in that

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Speaker 1: house might have thought, hey, you know what, it's time

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Speaker 1: to sell. But I don't want to have to give

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Speaker 1: the government capital gains tax on this. We should wipe

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Speaker 1: out capital gains on primary residents.

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Speaker 2: I think it.

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Speaker 1: Would drastically improve the overall housing market. I think that

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Speaker 1: people would buy and sell homes at more freely, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a no brainer. I give credit to

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green. I think it would help a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. And by the way, we also need to

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Speaker 1: get mortgage rates back down to around five percent. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at my mentions right after I said that,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of you reached out, sent me messages, hopped

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Speaker 1: in and said, Clay, you just nailed me. I got

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Speaker 1: a two and a half percent mortgage. I just had

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Speaker 1: another kid. Hey, my kid just left for college. Your

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Speaker 1: family circumstances changed. I need to be in a new

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Speaker 1: school district. I can't afford to sell my home potentially

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Speaker 1: pay capital gains tax on it and take on a

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Speaker 1: seven percent mortgage. It's broken the housing market. The best

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Speaker 1: thing we can do for the economy is fix it.

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Speaker 1: This is where Trump is right about the Jerome Powell.

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Speaker 1: We need to bring back down rates and start to

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Speaker 1: balance out that crazy increase that we saw from around

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Speaker 1: two and a half percent to seven.

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Speaker 2: Or the other option is to.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually in favor of this in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: especially in a lot of cities or in an expensive

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Speaker 1: suburbs around cities, you go for multi generational housing setup

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Speaker 1: where if you have the space, you know, you get

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Speaker 1: the grandparents living with the parents living with the kids,

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Speaker 1: or you know, if you can. It depends on how

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Speaker 1: much base we're talking about here. That's very common in

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Speaker 1: some places in Europe now. Europe is far less wealthy

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Speaker 1: per capita than America is, which I think people often

599
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Speaker 1: forget about. Their fancy baguettes and espressos do not make

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Speaker 1: up for the fact that Americans are far wealthier on

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Speaker 1: average than all you really, all major European countries. I

602
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Speaker 1: should say, you know, if you have these players don't

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Speaker 1: have air conditioning. This was an article in the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal this morning that how hot it is they

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Speaker 1: don't even have air conditioning. Yeah, well, now did you

606
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Speaker 1: see there's they're trying to say. It's something about there's

607
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Speaker 1: a like a thermal shock, but cold shock from air

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Speaker 1: conditioning is bad for you.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to say, yeah, fifteen different. I'm like, we

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Speaker 2: don't even want your stupid air conditioning. Not necessary for us.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Jacques, I'm sorry, you want the air conditioning?

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Speaker 1: My man, take the beret off. Let the air conditioning flow.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear very many Southerners who say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred degrees outside in July and August. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'd really like, I'd like to feel it

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Speaker 1: inside of my home. No, I'll take the I'll take

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Speaker 1: the air conditioning. I would argue air conditioning. Where does

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Speaker 1: air is a good question? Is the fun debate You're

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Speaker 1: about to go off on vacation. We could save this sometime.

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Speaker 1: Where does air conditioning rank on greatest inventions of all time?

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Speaker 1: Just in terms of improving the overall quality of life.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't live in Miami if air conditioning didn't exist,

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Speaker 1: zero percent chance, zero change. Well, this is why it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Miami wasn't a year round town until pretty recently. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of really post World War Two.

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Speaker 1: Before that, it was a place where people would go,

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Speaker 1: uh in the winter time. South, the whole South was

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Speaker 1: revolutionized by air conditioning because otherwise it was too brutal.

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Speaker 1: I know, everybody's like climate change, climate change. Yeah, talk

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Speaker 1: to your my parents, talk about how hot it was

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Speaker 1: in the summer and you have to sleep outside in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: You know it was. It didn't cool off very much.

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Speaker 1: Trump administration is working hard to make our economy grow.

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Speaker 1: We're just talking about it. Great things are happening, but

635
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Speaker 1: you still have to make the right choice. Is for

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00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: you as an individual and your wealth and your family

637
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Speaker 1: and the hard earned dollars that you are accumulating. Is

638
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Speaker 1: where gold comes in. Gold just makes sense. Look at

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Speaker 1: gold up forty percent in the past year, and you

640
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: just check that for yourself. Look at gold over the

641
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Speaker 1: last ten years. You'll notice something, right, Gold maintains value

642
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: and grows in value historically over time. With thirty seven

643
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Speaker 1: trillion dollars a debt still accumulating, guess what you're gonna

644
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Speaker 1: have inflation. It's going to eat away at your savings.

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Speaker 1: A portion of what you have in gold just makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And here's another idea for you. You can convert an existing

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Speaker 1: IRA or four oh one k into a tax sheltered

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Speaker 1: but also a little comic relief.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've

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Speaker 1: got so many different feedbacks, talkbacks rolling in. Want to

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Speaker 1: So you know, certainly the podcast, but now YouTube. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy more people watch video of podcasts than actually listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts. Now, the stat like kind of blew me away.

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Speaker 1: I was reading about it and I said, well, man,

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Speaker 1: we need to be on top of this. So we

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Speaker 1: want to take this Clay and Buck show the YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: take me to ninety k. Today we're at eighty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand subscribers. I sound like an auctioneer. Buck is going

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Speaker 1: to leave for Thursday and Friday. I want to hit

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand next week.

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Speaker 2: But before he.

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Speaker 1: Leaves to go celebrate with his the birthday, I want

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Speaker 1: us to hit ninety thousand subscribers.

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Speaker 2: You can do it.

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to YouTube YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com type and Clay Travis, type in Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: click subscribe. We're going to be responding to questions that

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Speaker 1: you guys post in there in news coburger. This awful

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Speaker 1: killer of four innocent college kids has declined to address

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Speaker 1: the courtroom as part of his guilty plea that will

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Speaker 1: avoid a death penalty. Here is cut thirty, just giving

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Speaker 1: you a sense of what it sounded like in that Boise,

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Speaker 1: Idaho courtroom. Listen, truth be told.

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Speaker 10: Able to come up with anything redeeming about mister Coberger

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Speaker 10: because his grotesque acts of evil have buried and hidden

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Speaker 10: anything that might have been good ortrinsically human about him.

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Speaker 10: His actions have made him the worst of the worst.

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Speaker 10: Even in pleading guilty, he's giving nothing hinting of remorse

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Speaker 10: or redemption, nothing suggesting even a record or understanding, let

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Speaker 10: alone regret for the pain that he has caused. And

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Speaker 10: therefore I will not attempt to speak about him further

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Speaker 10: other than to simply sentence him so that he is

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Speaker 10: forever removed from civilized society.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this maybe a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: third hour, because I think the decision to allow him

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Speaker 1: to plead guilty and avoid the death penalty might make sense.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with the decision to not require him

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Speaker 1: to explain in full detail why he did what he

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Speaker 1: did and tell the family so they can have some

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Speaker 1: form of peace exactly what went down. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: that aspect of it. But Buck, when we come also

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Speaker 1: do the view saying the Constitution is in trouble because

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Speaker 1: Colbert got fired. Because you know, less intense stuff too yeah,

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul next