WEBVTT - 10/22/21 DPS Hour 2 Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Mclovin the pull question from the first hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and does it bleed over into hour or two? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. Who's gonna win the Braves Dodgers series? Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight Braves? Okay, does that surprise you? Uh? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think the Braves going back home. I just

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<v Speaker 1>like how this sets up for the Dodgers and they're

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitching and the bullpen has been great. The question

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<v Speaker 1>has been how much offense do you get? I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>the offense to be spread out a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>what it has been in two games here where they've

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<v Speaker 1>shown a little bit of offense the Bellinger home run

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course what happened last night with five

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<v Speaker 1>home runs. But I like having Max Scherzer on the mound.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said, you know anybody in baseball now, Scherzer is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, thirty six, thirty seven years of age.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little bit different and how long you can

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<v Speaker 1>go with Max Scherzer. But I love Scherzer to start,

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<v Speaker 1>just to set sort of the temperature there in the

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<v Speaker 1>building in Atlanta. And then if you got Walker Bueller

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<v Speaker 1>and you get some timely hitting and that's all you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking for. And plus I'm saying to these pictures with

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<v Speaker 1>the braves, and a lot of them haven't been in

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<v Speaker 1>these positions. Go out there and let's see you shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that lineup again? Yeah, Mick clubbing. The other

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<v Speaker 1>potential big question or pull from our one was would

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<v Speaker 1>you pay Baker Mayfield big money? I'm curious how people

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<v Speaker 1>would vote on that. No, I don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>a full you know, the full Monty to him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to give that to him. What if the

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<v Speaker 1>question was do you think the Browns will end up

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<v Speaker 1>paying a big contract to Baker Mayfield? Yes? I do, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta. And I'll talk to Ross Tucker, our buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll join us coming up. You know, when you you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the brown situation, you've already picked up his

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<v Speaker 1>fifth year option, and then after that, then then I

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<v Speaker 1>have to think do I want to give him maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise tag. I don't know if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have all the answers you want. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that this year with Baker and then the following

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<v Speaker 1>year will you get that? And then are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to decide to give him you know, a five year

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<v Speaker 1>deal that's going to pay him two hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do it. I think the ceiling is a

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<v Speaker 1>little higher, right than it? I mean it should be higher.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the number one overall pick. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I can give up that kind of money because

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to cost me at some position on that team.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he an elite quarterback, a good quarterback, pretty good quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially a good quarterback. I just don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>money where I have doubts about that. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be yes, like that's the answer. And if the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is not an affirmative yes, then I wouldn't do that. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his bargaining power if I say to his representatives, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal for five years, one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. You want it? Oh you don't? Okay, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna get it? Elsewhere? Now? Brady Quinn, who

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<v Speaker 1>joined us last hour, said, well you might get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback starved team. Are they going to pony up?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, but you know, in fairness

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<v Speaker 1>to him, he doesn't have his running backs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>his wide receivers have been banged up, but case Keenum

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<v Speaker 1>was serviceable last night, did a nice job. He did

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<v Speaker 1>what you want him to do and maybe what you

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to do. You may not win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>don't lose the game, and they were able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>squeak out a win last night. That's all you want

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<v Speaker 1>with these games. Might be ugly. You win those games

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the year, you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>style points. It's not like college football where they go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you barely beat that team at home. It doesn't matter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no degree of difficulty. All right, we'll get to a

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<v Speaker 1>poll question and see if we said on one. For

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<v Speaker 1>That's Game six coming up tonight. Let's make way for

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<v Speaker 1>our good Buddy Ross Tucker hosts of the Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Football podcast and works for CBS in Westwood One. He

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<v Speaker 1>joins us on the program. Let me let me start

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<v Speaker 1>off with Baker Mayfield. What do you do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns eventually just pony up and give him that

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<v Speaker 1>big contract extension. No, I don't think they're going to dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're smart enough with Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of Ivy League guys. I might add, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're smart enough to realize that Baker is

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<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback. He's not a great quarterback. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>worthy of one of those contracts. I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 1>name fifteen quarterbacks off the top of my head, probably better,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly better than Baker Mayfield. I think they're happy with

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<v Speaker 1>him as a starter. But the weird thing about quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>is there's like no middle ground. I mean, you're either

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<v Speaker 1>getting over forty million a year or you're getting ten

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<v Speaker 1>million or less. It's just crazy. And the guy's getting

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight million or twenty four like Jimmy Garoppolo. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just because he signed his contract three years ago now

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<v Speaker 1>and it got kind of jumped over. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>how you do that. I heard you earlier, Dan, you

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<v Speaker 1>made a terrific point. Nobody else is gonna give him

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<v Speaker 1>that money, you know, Like, I don't think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a team that's gonna say, oh yeah, Cleveland doesn't love

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<v Speaker 1>him enough to pay him, but we're going to. There

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<v Speaker 1>will always be draft picks, there will always be other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you will cove it more than Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep talking about devaluing the running back position, and

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<v Speaker 1>last night was another example. I just don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>team where you go, we gotta get that running back.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Derek Hanny and then there's a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. I like Kamara McCaffrey. I would not have

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<v Speaker 1>given him an extension. Sae Quon Barkley's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a contract extension. And it doesn't matter at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it'll ever matter at that position where

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<v Speaker 1>you actually waste a first round draft pick? Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>know the Steelers did, but you know, do you do

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<v Speaker 1>that a top fifteen pick on a running back? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the top ten or top fifteen pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind down in the twenties. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>real problem is when you give him a huge second contract. Now, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>as you reference Dan, Derrick Henry's a difference maker. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that guy in person. I didn't recognize him

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<v Speaker 1>at first. It was the SEC Championship game. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a d end. I was like, Hey, who's

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. They're like, that's Derrick Henry. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Henry. And Dan you're you're older than me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember another one hundred and fifty pound man

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<v Speaker 1>that was that fast. I mean the other night he

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<v Speaker 1>was going just about twenty two miles per hour, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the fastest of any NFL player with the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands this year. I mean, think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody said Christian McCoy, Christian Accoire was pretty fast. Bo

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson was crazy fast. But bo Jackson wasn't two fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway that you guys can debate that later in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what you said about McCaffrey. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I would say about that Dan is he

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<v Speaker 1>is so valuable in the passing game. The Panthers are

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<v Speaker 1>three and ozo in games he starts, and oh and

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<v Speaker 1>three in games he doesn't. And he had been so

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<v Speaker 1>durable until he signed that contract. But your overall point

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one. I mean, I think we saw

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<v Speaker 1>it last night again. Offensive line means a great deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the best teams in the league, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the worst teams in the league. More often

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<v Speaker 1>than not, it directly correlates to the quality or lack thereof,

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<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line. Yeah. I'm watching Odell Beckham last

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<v Speaker 1>night and I know that he's not healthy. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong system. Okay, that's what I don't understand now.

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<v Speaker 1>Granted they brought him in before they brought in Kevin Stefanski,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just doesn't fit that system. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>still keep Odell Beckham just because he still has that

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<v Speaker 1>star power and the defense at least has to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that he's in the game. I think if the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>got a good offer for him, they would strongly consider

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<v Speaker 1>moving him. I just don't know who's going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, with his injury history, especially the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, and lack of production, who wants to take

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<v Speaker 1>on that salary. I don't think anybody does. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham Junior is one of those guys. Dan He

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes me sad like he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>all time what ifs. His first two years, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this guy could be like Jerry Rice, Like his

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<v Speaker 1>first two years were incredible. But then he started to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do all the get all these personal foul penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was the stuff off the field, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just realized he wasn't going to be like Jerry Rice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how people will take this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't important enough to him. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing him for that. I'd probably be just like Odell.

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<v Speaker 1>You could probably go to Germany and get like three

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to do some endorsement over there. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mad at Odell, but he decided early on in

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<v Speaker 1>his career that the off the field stuff was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>important to him. And that's okay, it's his life. But

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought he could be like an all time great.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been the off the field distractions and the

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<v Speaker 1>injuries that have prevented him from really even getting close

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<v Speaker 1>to what he could have been. Why are the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>at least reportedly trying to trade for Deshaun Watson. Their

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<v Speaker 1>owner is not very patient and frankly, I wouldn't be either.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you I don't know how old Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Ross is. I think he's in his seventies. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just tell you right now. I'm going on record right now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm a billionaire in my seventies and I own

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<v Speaker 1>a sports franchise, I'm not gonna be patient at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not even a little bite. What's that he's

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one? Yeah? Even more reason. And that's why DeShawn

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<v Speaker 1>Watson ultimately is going to get traded because one of

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<v Speaker 1>these owners, David Tepper of the Panthers. These guys are

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<v Speaker 1>used to getting what they want. It must be infuriating

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to literally pay for anything in life

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<v Speaker 1>you want other than winning, other than having a good

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<v Speaker 1>quarter I mean, these guys can call their private jet

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<v Speaker 1>and fly to Paris tonight if they want and do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want to do in Paris, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy that in the NFL. But they want it, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do what it takes to get a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that gives them a chance to win championships because they

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<v Speaker 1>have big egos and they want to win championships. Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Goff goes back to Los Angeles and I guess he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play with a chip on his shoulder. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how that feels when you play with a

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<v Speaker 1>chip on your shoulder going into a game like this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels like it's dangerous from the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try to do more than what I

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<v Speaker 1>probably should. What do you think? So? Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is like for a quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 1>can distinctly remember in two thousand and two, after Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Spurrier and Washington release me, I actually started Dan for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys like a month later on Thanksgiving against Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>and I distinctly thought about, if it's like a sweep

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<v Speaker 1>to that side, maybe I could take a dB and

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<v Speaker 1>run them right in the Spurrier and knock him over

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<v Speaker 1>withdrew him in. I had that mental image. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you do as a quarterback, but as

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<v Speaker 1>a lineman, you think about, man, there might be some

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<v Speaker 1>way if I'm near the sideline, I can chuck it

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<v Speaker 1>the guy in the Spurrier's legs didn't work out. That

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<v Speaker 1>was very hard to do, very hard to pull off.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's a wake forest at Army, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wake forest undefeat. This is a sneaky good game that

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<v Speaker 1>you got. Well, what's awesome about it? Dan? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great Saturday of college football games. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great matchups. So everybody at noon. The game

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<v Speaker 1>is sold out. It's at Mikey Stadium. It's sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Forest, best season, best start since nineteen forty four.

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<v Speaker 1>They're four and oz in the ACC there's six and oz.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a great chance to win the conference with

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson being down, but Army's tough, especially at home. I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely cannot wait for this game new tomorrow, CBS Sports Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you start for a Division three team right now?

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great question. Um, I don't think so, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm two forty five pounds now. No, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know why, About a month ago, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>Army's field and I thought, you know what, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to change up my workouts a little bit. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred yards sprint stand but I was just like

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<v Speaker 1>jogging him. I wasn't like really sprinting. My hamstrings were

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<v Speaker 1>sore for three weeks. Three way. I never do anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I think, you know what, I could probably

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<v Speaker 1>start at center or guard for a bad division, a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad division. Three team and then for a good

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<v Speaker 1>month to two months after that game, being incredibly sore

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<v Speaker 1>and mad at myself. Have fun this weekend. Great, Great

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, buddy, Thank you. Oh thanks. Then that's

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<v Speaker 1>Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>UH covers college football's way. He called Florida Atlantic and

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<v Speaker 1>shar it last night for CBS Sports Network, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Big One tomorrow at noon. It's Wake taking on Army.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break. The NBA has issued its top

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about who's on the team, it's who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>When Michael Myers Returned is an over yet the next

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<v Speaker 1>I started watching this last night and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>big horror movie guy, but I wanted to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see Jamie Lee Curtis again in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh let me see. Oh, by the way, Ben Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>put his house for sale yesterday, and if you got

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<v Speaker 1>I think two point two million dollars outside of Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a basketball court outside. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's been used, but there is a basketball hoop attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the house there with Ben. Yes fall he bought

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<v Speaker 1>it for two point three million five years ago. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now four point almost two acres and it's a cul

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<v Speaker 1>to zac which is lovely. Yeah, five bedrooms and a

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<v Speaker 1>game room and an aquarium. Okay, there's not a money

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<v Speaker 1>pit whatsoever. Yes, Ton, it's hard to get packages though

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<v Speaker 1>there because the mailman refuses to deliver anything that's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Ben Simmons is refusing to That was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't good. I thought I had something there. It

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<v Speaker 1>should have reworked. Huped that a little bit. You should

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<v Speaker 1>say something like that. It has a basketball hoop, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been used. Once again, I brought everything to

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<v Speaker 1>just a screech. You did not What are you supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do? It? I just yes, mclovin. That would have

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<v Speaker 1>been good if Karl Malone you're refused to take a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much with Ben Simmons. Yes, set. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I love when somebody like this puts

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<v Speaker 1>their house up is that then they write articles and

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<v Speaker 1>show you pictures up the inside. I love when it's

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<v Speaker 1>wall to wall pictures of themselves and their own jerseys.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that is just so. Hilais got fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons jersey's hanging up in there. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>his jersey him and then then it's just Ben Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>on magazine covers. That's it. I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a Rod when a Rod had the Centurion, when it's

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<v Speaker 1>half man, half horse, and that's in his house. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have some things in here that you are

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<v Speaker 1>of me. You have a TV show going on Ben Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just a house. It's just home. Come on

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<v Speaker 1>in you want to see my artwork. Yeah, that's it

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So anyway, I had this portrait of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a present to myself last year for my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I wore that jersey and yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a three pointer in that game either yes, MC.

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<v Speaker 1>They also has a neon sign that says Simmo the

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<v Speaker 1>Savage on it really, which, by the way, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this whole house is cutting his trade value even more.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks of himself as Simmo the Savage, like I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>these photos are killing the trade. Look, okay, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if he nicknamed himself that makes it bad Simo Simmo

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<v Speaker 1>the Savage, Yeah, boy like Simmons the laid back lefty

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not savage at all. That's the problem. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess he's meeting with management sometime this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The general manager for the Rockets, Sterrell Morey, did an

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<v Speaker 1>interview yesterday and basically said he's not trading Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>This give me four years. The conditions that I'm pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out to you don't change unless Ben Simmons is traded

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<v Speaker 1>for a difference Baker. We're in the prime of Joel's career.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to get back either Ben Simmons playing well

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<v Speaker 1>for us, who helps us win the championship, or we

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<v Speaker 1>have to get back a difference Baker for Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>Or this could be four years from now. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the prime of Joel Embach career. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>also can look at this. I want to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and I don't think having Ben Simmons there

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be taking advantage of Joe Lmbach's prime.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it hurts his prime. Now, I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to get somebody who can help us win a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons doesn't want to be there. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>Daryl Morey doesn't. It's not his job to go. How

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<v Speaker 1>do I make Ben Simmons happy by sending him someplace

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<v Speaker 1>house that's rich Paul his agent's job. Daryl Morey's job

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<v Speaker 1>is Okay, let's maintain, try to build better surround Joel

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<v Speaker 1>Embiid and win a championship here. They should have traded

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<v Speaker 1>him in the off season. Everybody talked about that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be there, and then they had that foe. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want him back. Everybody wants him, and no, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want him back, and they should have traded him

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season. Now you have him. He says

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a sore back, he doesn't want to play there. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the ownership is looking at this around

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA because Harden pulled this nonsense. Star players have

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<v Speaker 1>done this where you know I'm gonna stomp my feet

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to play here anymore. Okay, we'll act,

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<v Speaker 1>we ask him, We'll trade you, I'll get it. You know,

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe Philly ownership is just saying nope, I'm gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You got, you got a contract here, live up to

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<v Speaker 1>the contract, come on in and play. But it might

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<v Speaker 1>be to the detriment of the team. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>my issue with this. You got Joel Embiid, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good roster, Doc Rivers. You know, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you expecting for Ben Simmons? And it feels like now

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you get is not going to be good enough

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<v Speaker 1>because we keep waiting. Who's that difference maker you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get? Is CJ. McCollum, is Draymond Green? And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the younger players with Golden State. Like, who's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference maker? And if I'm a team, I'm not trading

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<v Speaker 1>my difference maker for the guy that you think I

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>should takes your different difference maker. You can't have it

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<v Speaker 1>both ways here, you got damaged goods and therefore what

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking for unless somebody gets desperate here, I would

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<v Speaker 1>not be ponying up for Ben Simmons. The NBA seventy

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<v Speaker 1>fifth Anniversary team selected by a panel of current and

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<v Speaker 1>former NBA players, coaches, general managers. Panelists didn't rank their selections.

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Current and former players were not allowed to vote for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>as we often do. You have the seventy five players,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we want to talk about those who are

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<v Speaker 1>snubs here. And the point is, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put somebody on, you have to take somebody off because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go. Tracy McGrady should be on there, Tony

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Parker should be on there, Vince Carter should be Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you taking off? That's really the most important

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<v Speaker 1>part with all of this, because we do this with

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the All Star Game, and he's an All Star. Who

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>are you taking off? And that's how you should approach this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>are there guys that I look at and say, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's one of the top seventy five players of

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<v Speaker 1>all time? Sure, there are a lot of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>on here, But who am I taking off? As much

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<v Speaker 1>as I love Bill Walton, name my inner Mural team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Walton Gang, one of my favorite people, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top fifty seventy five players of all

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<v Speaker 1>time in the NBA. He's just not wonderful player, college

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the all time greats. But Bill is not

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't have longevity, and I have to factor

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that in longevity consistency. Bill at a magical year in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the seventy sixers in one of the more

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>star studded lineups with the seventy sixers. The following year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were fifty and ten and maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to win another title. And then he had

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 1>foot surgery and he never really recovered. Six Man of

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the Year with the Celtics with Larry Bird. You know,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to be honest with this. And as much

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>as I love Bill, he's not one of the top

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 1>seventy five players of all time. Had he been healthy,

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>he would be one of the top fifteen players. In

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, he was that incredible. But he's just he

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be on there. Dwight Howard, I think the more

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the longer Dwight Howard played, I think it reduced his

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>chances of being recognized as one of the great players.

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>If he stopped at age thirty or maybe a little

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>younger than that, then he might be on there. You know,

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Tony Parker is not considered a great point guard, one

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of the greats of all time, but he got four titles.

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I think he was a top five MVP, one of

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>finals MVP, you know, you know Vince Carter, that consistency,

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the greatness, Bernard King, Like, there are just so many

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>players that I see here. But you know, I've had

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, Kyrie Irving is Kyrie. No, Kyrie Irving

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be a top seventy five player of all time.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Like he wanted out of Cleveland. Uh, he didn't help

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>out Boston. Who knows what's going to happen with the nets.

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>He can't stay healthy. He hit one of the biggest

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>shots in NBA his three to win a title for Cleveland,

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>but he's not Talent wise is one thing. Production and

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>results is something different. Trisa McGrady, you know, probably is

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>another one of those guys, you know, great they didn't win.

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>But Kyrie, to me, as much as negative as he

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>is a positive. Remember, he had his team in Cleveland,

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>they didn't do anything, and then Lebron came back to town,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>and then he didn't like being second fiddles, so he

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>goes to Boston and then what happens in Boston, Then

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he wants out of Boston, and then here he is

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>with the Brooklyn So no, he's not a top seventy

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>five players. Yeah, a couple of names that surprised me.

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>No offense, you were you been more surprised if Anthony

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Davis made it or didn't make it. I was a

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>little surprised he made it. No offense A little Um. Well, okay,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I have to this has to be how do you

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>stack up with your contemporaries in my opinion, because Bob

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Kuzi's on here and then you're going to get this, Well,

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Bob Kuzi in today's game wouldn't be able to play.

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>You're right, he wouldn't. But in his era, Bob Kuzi

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>was a great player. And how would Couzy be today

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>if he was able to take advantage of scouting condition

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>private planes. You know, probably would be a different Bob

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Kuzi than you saw with the Celtics in the sixties.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>That's where it gets dangerous where you start to compare eras.

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I just have to look at when you played, how

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 1>good were you and how did you compare with your

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 1>contemporaries and Bob Couzi in the sixties. He's one of

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the all time greats. Yeah, Poe, here's one more and

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>tell me if I'm wrong. I was surprised that Robert

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Parrish of the Celtics made it. He was part of greatness.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But I never found him to be the best player

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>on his team, or maybe second best no offense. But

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>he seems to be part of the story of NBA history.

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think Robert Parrish was a great basketball player.

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 1>And I could be wrong, but you, yeah, they're just

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>wonderful players on here. You know our good buddy Reggie

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Miller's on there as one of the top seventy five players.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Dominique Wilkins, who should have been in the top fifty

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>players of all time, got in in the top seventy five.

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Bob McAdoo, one of my favorites, got in the top

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. Yeah. I had a couple of questions about

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>old timey guys, not two old times Billy Cunningham. I thought,

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I entertain he's a fifty like he was a sixth man, right,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I tell you only it's four All Star appearances that

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>would struck me as hot. And I'm a sixty fan

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Nate Archibald at definite um. Okay, I got to see

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Nate in Cincinnati and he was it was incredible, wonderful. Okay.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You know when he went to Kansas City, Omaha Kings.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the numbers were in Cincinnati. He

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was a great player for one of the worst teams

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>in the league and he led the league in scoring

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>an assist one year. Two more quick ones Dave to

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Ushare with the Knicks yea, and Dave Cowens with the Celtics.

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I know he won a MVP. Yeah, I don't know

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>if they're the greatest of all time. I feel like

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>those are the names are. Dwight Howard could come at like,

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>how can you say Dave Cowens was better than me?

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>But but I think at the time Cowens. I think

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Cowens won an MVP, they won a title, and he

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was a really good center and he played for Boston.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, Dave Debuscher played for the Knicks. That factors

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in as well. Who you played for did you win titles?

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what the voting criteria was for

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>this now. I don't know what they're factoring in. Yeah, Paul,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>one guy was surprised that did make it, just because

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought the NBA might frown upon him. With Dennis Rodman,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he did make the team, and I'm all in favorite,

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>but I was a little surprised. Well, I think he

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>was one of the most underrated then became one of

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the more overrated because he sort of bought into you know,

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a great defender. When he played with the Bowls,

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he was a great defense at all.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he got overcovered and he became, oh, you know,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what's what's his hair are going to look like? He

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't anything on offense, and uh, he just got rebounds.

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>That was it. But he created a brand, you know,

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the first NBA players who

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>became a brand when he's out there. And Rodman did

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that wonderfully. When he was with Detroit, he was a

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>wonderful player. But with the Bulls, I thought that all

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they asked him to do was rebound. I can't put

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you in just because your rebound. Yeah, mclub one guy.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>We were kind of making out of Clay Thompson being

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>so upset, But I got our Clay Thompson. I'd put

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>in over Russell Westbrook maybe I think that's a close one. Yeah,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but Russ one an MVP, had the whole triple double stuff.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But Clay's gonna have the titles. Well I'd rather have

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Clay than Russ. But you know that, you know, shouldn't

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be Hey, uh, the answered there, But I don't know.

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>One has titles. One does. One has the ability to

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>be the second or third best player on his team

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and thrive. And Russ can't do that. Russ hasn't done that.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna find out with Russ with the Lakers,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>can he be the third best player on his team?

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Because normally it's like, hey, I'm the star, You're not

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the star. And Clay Thompson has been able to do

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that and make that team better. Who else anybody? Uh,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>let's see, Like, you know, I just remember these guys.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Dantley was a six five guy. Maybe not even

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that he score on anybody, anybody. Alonzo Mourning was a

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>wonderful player to Keim Bay. These are all snubs here.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Alex English was instant off. Bernard King was one of

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the baddest dudes ever. I mean, if he didn't get hurt,

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>he was unbelievable. I mean Bill Walton made it, but

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Bill won a title, won two titles. He won one

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>with the Celtics. Do I think Bernard King's a better

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>NBA player than Bill? I do? And I hate doing

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>this because I truly love Bill Walton, But you know,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just being honest. I mean, Tony Parker had an

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable career. If he played in New York or LA,

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he'd be celebrated. It wouldn't be a question. He played

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in San Antono, manag gnobli temc plga saw. I mean,

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>there's so many great players, but if you're going to

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>put somebody on, who are you taking off? And I

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>think that's really what it comes down to. But yeah,

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that this was voted on for the seventy fifth anniversary team.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll be around for the one hundred. Maybe they'll

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>let me vote the one hundredth anniversary team. And you

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>have players and people voting on this who didn't even

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>see some of these players that I got to see play.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>As I've said before, the only person I think I

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>really mist was Bill Russell. I didn't get to see

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>him in person. But Kuzy to Oscar to Wilt, you

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>know those seventy six or teams. Hell, I saw pat

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Riley play, Jerry West, you name it, Earl Monroe able

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to see them, so I think, you know, having people

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>who have perspective on some of these players, it is

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>important when you have these lists. Yes, our buddy Chris

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>mannox Is Fourth Illustrated tweet out a picture and said,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>snubbed NBA seventy five team and it's a Ricky Rubio.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he is. Yeah, Ricky Rubio is only thirty one

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>years of age. I think he's got like seven more

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>teams left in him. He's probably gonna play for fifteen

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>teams when it's all said and done, and not having

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>an All Star appearance. All right, when we come back,

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>mclovin has against the grain topic today. McLevin is a

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>special scientific against the grains. You're gonna learn something, Dan,

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>because I normally don't, all right, against the grain something scientific.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just say, if you have kids in the car,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you might want to keep them in the car because

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a lesson. Oh okay, for the children. It's

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>always for the kids. All right, Let's take a break

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>here and we'll come back against the Grain back after this.

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.640
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0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.280
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0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.360
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0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.840
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0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.600
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0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.200
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0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.320
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0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Final hour of the show. Rebecca Lowe, host of the

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Premier League. They're gonna be at the LA Coliseum. Got

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a road show, yes, Polly, I think you. We have

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Liverpool Manchester United on Sunday morning. Mosala your guy, oh, Mosala,

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>guest number seven, Mosala. All right, mclovin, you got your

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Against the Grain. Yes right, yeah, let's hit the music

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>for Against the Grain with mclovin. So I'm calling this

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>litmus test Sunday to term we often here, But does

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>anyone know what a litmus test actually is? I'm gonna

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'm not even gonna make you, guys, guess

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a test for acidity or alkalinity using litmus, but

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>don't turn like purple. Yeah, yeah, A little like thing

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you dunk it in and then it turns of coloraud Yeah.

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Does anyone here know what alkalinity is? It probably is

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>related to alkaline played for the Detroit Tigers. Alkaline alkaline. Yes,

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a buffering capacity of a water body, a measure

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>of the ability of the water body and neutralize acids

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and basis and thus maintain a fairly stable pH level. Okay,

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>do you know what a pH level is? I could

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>go on for hours with this. It's atential of hydrogen. Yeah,

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, here are five litmus test games, and I'm

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>going to determine are these teams alkaline or acidic? Wait,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>which one's positive? I don't know. I want to say

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>acidic is the bad one. Okay, that sounds a little right, Okay, Okay,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Bengals Ravens a litmus test game. I think that the

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Bengals are going to come out of this alkaline a Okay,

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>here's my theory. The Ravens got torn apart by Carson

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Wentz a couple of weeks ago. Should have lost that

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>game by but their field goal kicker and the Colts

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>got hurt and they got lucky to beat the Lions.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>They do a lot. They're a great team, they're really good,

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but they're do a loss. I like my Cincinnati Bengals again.

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm back on the bandwagon. Yeah all right. And by

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, remember that headline, Jamar Chase can't catch? Was

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he baiting us the whole preseason? I don't know, because

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I received some responses from people saying, I thought you

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>said he was going to be the best receiver, and like, yeah,

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought so. Yeah, I didn't know that he couldn't

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>pick up the football when he was on the field.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But now he's setting a rookie records, so he's good.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>All right. Bears Bucks litmus Test game Paul's Chicago Bears Acid.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why have you ever seen the track?

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>More angry? Hall of Fame quarterbacks on the Chicago Bears.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's still mad because people are making fun of

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>his four fingers from last year against the Bears. He

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is coming out on a mission on Sunday, and he

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to beat up on the Bears. Big test

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for Justin Fields. By the way, by the way, Tom

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Brady did talk about that matchup facing an Ohio State quarterback.

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I just hate a minute. Okay, we'll just talk them. Okay,

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I got it. Okay, here's Tom Brady the same thing.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Too inflammatory about Ohio State. That's what you're getting to do.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'll have my time usually oh State. This is

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Michigan State weeks. I can kind of those are the

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that I can kind of go after. Um, that's interesting.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Why why is there not a lot of our house

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 1>stead quarterbacks in the pros. There's a lot of Michigan

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>guys over the years, but not a lot of old

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>house Steak guys. Okay, I like the shot, taking a

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>little shot their Yampaul. I don't know if you could

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>ever come back at Brady for his pro career, but

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want to say I don't remember you playing

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan, that could work in this scenario. Okay, I

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>can't make fun of the purer. All right, We now

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>refill our regular schedule program. Okay. The next litmus test

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>game is Eagles Raiders. Now, I'm not sure who. This

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>is a litmus test for the Eagles, who are facing

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a November second trade deadline and they have to decide

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>are we giving away our star quarterback Darius Slay. So

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they need to win. The Raiders they benefited from what

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>is now being called the Bisaccia bump last week. Interim

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>coach Rich Bisaccia is getting them fired up. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say the Eagles are a bit acidic right now.

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 1>They seem like a mess, and the Raiders come out

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<v Speaker 1>of this with hope for the twenty twenty one season.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, two more Dolphins Falcons. We're all tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>for this one. This is alkaline or acidic. If the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins lose this game, what does that mean for Deshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Watson Trey Ruvers. I'm sitting here trying to figure it out.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean they want him because they're so bad

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>or they don't want him because they're going nowhere without him?

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I ask you, I have no idea. Well, I still

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to have an identity for that franchise,

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think that this owner, being in his eighties,

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 1>wants to have something there that, you know, even though

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it might not be something good to have, you know,

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>happen right now, given Deshaun Watson's profile. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll it'll amp it up a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if they lose this game and they're one and six,

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>then they can still justify this trade. Yeah, but then

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't worry about if you have to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>for eight games because you're not any good. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you're sort of tanking. You already have to

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<v Speaker 1>give up your draft pick to the Eagles. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, last game, the Litmus Test game, Chiefs at Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is all of our favorite game of

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. I'm gonna say the Titans are alkaline, which

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is the good one. They have a very stable pH level.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 1>They're six point underdogs. Can't you see Dereck Henry running

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>all over the Chiefs on this one? Yeah? But you

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>just try a big win against the Buffalo Bills, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So can you replicate that against the Kansas City I

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean this is in Tennessee, right, I

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>believe so? Yes? Yeah, So Kansas City is favored in

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee by six and a half. Wow, I actually I

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>see it as six on this list I'm looking at

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>right now in Tennessee. Yeah, so here's you always go again.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>You're going against the Green because everyone's high on the

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Titans right now because they saw him in a primetime game.

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>You're saying that makes you a bit nervous. Yes, yes,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it's Kansas City feels a little more desperate. The Titans

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>played extremely well beating Buffalo, but it's like Buffalo and

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo beat Kansas City and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, Buffalo, we're all on the bench, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Buffalo loses. Now it's like, guy, oh the Titans.

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think their wide receivers are healthy?

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Is do I expect Derrick Henry to have a big day.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He should, But it feels like Kansas City they're favored

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>for a reason. Going back to it by the Ravens

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Bengals game, I saw quote from Lamar Jackson saint we're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking past the Bengals. We would never look past

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and a dnomy are they looking past the

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Bengals's whatever? A quarterback says that that means they're looking

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>past them. So you might want it out on the Bengals. Yeah,

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't because Cincinnati is they're competitive. We've seen that,

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and you haven't been able to say that about Cincinnati

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>for a while. Does anyone here remember what pH was?

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>From the beginning of this segment Science Quiz Friday, bosphorus Todd,

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>phum tells you that you basic the acidity or the

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>basicness of something. No, what's the pH stand for? Oh,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Todd was definitely God, weren't you listening? I don't remember

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>what the pH? No, Todd, you weren't listening. I remember

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>with the definition of pH, but you weren't listening. I

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>guess I missed that book. Yeah, and he can't. I'm

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>hiding my computer screen so he can't cheat off at

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>this time? All right? Does that? Is that against the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night, it'll be Carson Wentz and the Colds. They

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<v Speaker 1>go to San Francisco, Jimmy Garoppolo. We'll get the start

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<v Speaker 1>NBC and Peacock. Yes, Maclen, that was a sneaky line

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>about al Ka line. You definitely would have cheated off

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>me in science class. Yeah, probably in tenth grade. Yes,

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I would have. Yes, I would have, and I might

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>have passed you the ball like I would have found

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you if you and Paul were graded on like sports

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>stats knowledge, like in eleventh grade, probably would have been

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Ivy League. Oh. I would have been Suma cum laude. Absolutely,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>although for years this is a smart I am. I

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>thought Magnu kum laude was better than Suma cum laude.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Does it sound like, Man, I'm Magna cum laude. That

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>does sound it's like your Summa cum la like yeah, yeah,

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like an Ish Fritzie always says he's jew Ish.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of Jews. I go for the high Holy

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Days on suma ish magna. Doesn't it That sounds like

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>more impressive? Yeah? Right? Final hour coming up. More phone calls,

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