Speaker 1: You can't have the money man sitting in front of
Speaker 1: you and not pick up some nuggets that he's dropping
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Man, what's hand him?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: You got Marshan, Besma Lynch.
Speaker 4: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin knew Something. You're listening to politickets.
Speaker 2: You to be you known to be?
Speaker 4: Mark Cuban, How you doing, Buddy good Man?
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Jesus Christ. Where the hell haven't you been? Cuban?
Speaker 4: You've been on every I turned on the TV today.
Speaker 4: It was like Mark Cuban coming up next. Cuban said this, Well,
Speaker 4: panel comes back in five minutes. What the hell was
Speaker 4: wrong with? Cuban says, so and so on Fox?
Speaker 3: Playoffs? It's the playoffs, man, Jesus Christ. In practice, we're
Speaker 3: talking playoffs.
Speaker 4: Man, oh man, there's nothing you went the hell you're
Speaker 4: gonna be like on the Cartoon Network next week or something?
Speaker 3: You know? I got that coming up next, Jesus.
Speaker 5: And Mark only know was Marshawn wanted you was his
Speaker 5: own and when he played Mark, but he couldn't shoot threes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but we needed somebody in the pain.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dog and you feel me, big dog and
Speaker 1: sheep what you got?
Speaker 2: But you you got? You got play over there now, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was tough. It was good last night.
Speaker 4: What the hell was that what he had? I don't
Speaker 4: like this as a warrior guy, I don't want that
Speaker 4: much left in the tank. It kind of pissed me off.
Speaker 4: Twenty two points.
Speaker 2: No, no, Gavin, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't tell me.
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I ain't hating on Clay, just
Speaker 4: the opposite. I just hated him leaving.
Speaker 1: Get the hage balls out your body and my boy
Speaker 1: was out there pulling like a motherfucker, walked from everywhere.
Speaker 3: Didn't get a chance to watch the game, but he
Speaker 3: made his first but then his next one just like
Speaker 3: missed everything, and everybody's like you just.
Speaker 4: Hear the and then it's just bam bam bad.
Speaker 3: Then you knew what he had, man, it.
Speaker 4: Was just what he had like six six threes or something.
Speaker 4: Right the hell was that bounding he had?
Speaker 3: Like he had hustle, re making passive.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy. He's a good dude. Man, he's
Speaker 4: a really good guy. I'm happy for him.
Speaker 3: And Mark.
Speaker 5: Let me let me start by saying that I just
Speaker 5: heard you on the All In podcast, And let me
Speaker 5: tell you something, we are much funner hosting.
Speaker 4: Those guys are. No, we don't, we don't. We don't
Speaker 4: mess with fellow podcasters. Bro, those guys are an exception.
Speaker 4: I'm willing to accept that one.
Speaker 5: Though, Mark, as you, we are the state school kids.
Speaker 5: We're the hustles like you were. I sell the shoes
Speaker 5: at twelve.
Speaker 3: We're not.
Speaker 5: We're not the Ivy League guys like those guys are.
Speaker 5: So it could be a funner podcast for you.
Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I heard you was just with my boys
Speaker 2: with an all the smoke too, with a.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah I know then and Matt Forever, Man, those
Speaker 3: guys are cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are man, they yeah, they actually I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, I mean com a word.
Speaker 1: So you know when they had they run out there
Speaker 1: in Oakland for sure though, and then you.
Speaker 3: Know Matt, Yeah, well, I say I had to give
Speaker 3: Jack a lot of shit because he was on that
Speaker 3: team that we were sixty seven, the Warriors beat us,
Speaker 3: that we believe team, and that was just like there
Speaker 3: was no fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, they both came. They both came
Speaker 1: through Oak and so man, you know, I was a
Speaker 1: youngster to looking up and they they attitudes was something
Speaker 1: that just you feel me though, I connected with like,
Speaker 1: you know, bigger than basketball.
Speaker 2: And you might catch them.
Speaker 1: You know, I probably shouldn't be saying, but you know,
Speaker 1: you could catch them out at the at the clubs
Speaker 1: and that, and.
Speaker 3: Really doctor hears that.
Speaker 2: You might catch them and Mangoes and Jeffrey's or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, motherfucker, and they're looking at like, little young
Speaker 1: ass boy, what the hell your young ass doing it?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Shit saying now you're doing big.
Speaker 3: Dump because I can. Let's go because I can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Govin, you got to jump right in, Gavin, you
Speaker 5: got some stuff from Mark now I know it.
Speaker 4: But no what I'm crawling out of my skin this
Speaker 4: week with and I'm sorry that just a little bit
Speaker 4: of politics. We can get on all this other good stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about it.
Speaker 4: But just a little bit, man, I'm serious about this.
Speaker 4: When the La Times decided not to endorse and then
Speaker 4: the Washington Post doubled down on that, and it just
Speaker 4: opened up a lot. I mean, you can't help but
Speaker 4: just wonder what the hell that's all about? Really, what's
Speaker 4: that about.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's two things there right. One is
Speaker 3: does it really matter? Okay, because in this day and age,
Speaker 3: they're not the gatekeepers anymore, you know ten years ago,
Speaker 3: maybe five years ago even a little bit. But now,
Speaker 3: I mean it's like you can look at candidates that
Speaker 3: have gotten endorsed by major papers and hasn't made a difference.
Speaker 4: No, But Mark, but what But the thing for me,
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. I know what you're saying though, like,
Speaker 4: you know, but what it what it represents?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is there an intimidation factor behind it? You know?
Speaker 3: And that that's the ultimate question, you know, And I
Speaker 3: think what it represents is a big shift. You know,
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, it was the Trumpers
Speaker 3: that were the silent majority or silent half the country.
Speaker 3: Now I think that's fliplocked. I think the Trumpers they've
Speaker 3: been emboldened by Twitter. You know, Elon is out there
Speaker 3: pushing them saying, hey, you know this is the spot.
Speaker 3: It's all Trump all the time, and people that's giving
Speaker 3: them Twitter courage and you know that process, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that impacted what the Times is doing and
Speaker 3: what the Post is doing. And I also think you know,
Speaker 3: if you look at just podcasts across the board, the
Speaker 3: right wing ones tend to do better and generate more revenue.
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's part of it as well.
Speaker 3: You know, Republicans by sneakers too.
Speaker 4: And what is it? And why do you think that's
Speaker 4: a case they're just more entertaining? Uh, it's what it's
Speaker 4: the message, what is it?
Speaker 3: I think Republicans SKW a little bit older, and I
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of reinforcement when you know, and
Speaker 3: also the branding of the quote unquote mainstream stream media.
Speaker 3: For a long time, it definitely leaned left, for sure,
Speaker 3: right and they would tell you that's still the case today.
Speaker 3: But with digital media, everything has grown so quickly that
Speaker 3: the stronger players and with the bigger audiences, particularly online,
Speaker 3: tend to lean right. And there's more money there and maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, we want to think that it's
Speaker 3: you know, Elon, you know, or whoever influencing the La
Speaker 3: Times and whoever influencing bezos, But maybe it's just the dollars.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the free market saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: more of our customers spend money that are that lean right,
Speaker 3: and our content plays better when it leans right, I'm guessing,
Speaker 3: of course, but you got to look at all those
Speaker 3: possible options, and when it.
Speaker 4: Comes to the podcast are you it's interesting just in
Speaker 4: terms of where the audience skews, but it also begs
Speaker 4: the question, there's sort of this bro culture were keep
Speaker 4: talking about right now, I know, you know, and that's
Speaker 4: been a big conversation around to this gender gap in
Speaker 4: this election, which goes in both directions significantly. We tend
Speaker 4: to only talk about the gender gap as it favors Trump,
Speaker 4: not necessarily the one that Kamal has pulled away with.
Speaker 4: But what do you do you even subscribe to this
Speaker 4: quote unquote bro culture?
Speaker 3: Does it even mean any team? Look, you know, Marshawn's
Speaker 3: a little bit too old for this now, but you
Speaker 3: know me.
Speaker 2: Give me some give me some dang.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some dude's coming up now. They don't know newspapers.
Speaker 3: My son's fifteen, my daughter's eighteen. They don't know newspapers.
Speaker 3: They don't look at that stuff at all. Right, They
Speaker 3: don't watch the news, they don't turn on the TV
Speaker 3: for news. They go to Instagram and TikTok and YouTube
Speaker 3: and they scroll and they get what the algorithm gives
Speaker 3: them and they also like get used to watching the
Speaker 3: Theo Vonn's, the nel Boys. The part of my take
Speaker 3: all these all these folks, and again it's self reinforcing.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say the shit that gets more people to
Speaker 3: watch and listen. It's like Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan didn't
Speaker 3: used to be right, you know, lean right, and it
Speaker 3: paid off for him, you know, and you went with
Speaker 3: it and can't You can't be mad at him. You
Speaker 3: can't be mad at him for doing what's best for
Speaker 3: his business. But that bro culture, you know, think about
Speaker 3: what a hitch. The best way, you know, my little
Speaker 3: parenting secret for my kids, they're fifteen, eighteen, and twenty
Speaker 3: one now, so it still applies to my youngest. But
Speaker 3: the best way to get to know what's in their
Speaker 3: head is just to look at their scrolls on TikTok
Speaker 3: and Instagram.
Speaker 2: That's how you know about search engine and that history.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, you know, but you know because they're all
Speaker 3: day long scrolling, right, And so I look over my
Speaker 3: son's shoulder and like I'm seeing basketball, basketball, football, football
Speaker 3: fantasy fantasy fans, hot girl, basketball basketball bas hot girl,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's Okay, I'm cool with those ratios,
Speaker 3: and I know those ratios are going to change.
Speaker 4: I know yours are a lot different than that, right Mark.
Speaker 3: No, I love my wife, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: We were just we were just talking about the algorithm
Speaker 1: and how our playing. I said, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of my family members show me they they algorithms. And
Speaker 1: it was just butt cheeks, that's all. It was butt
Speaker 1: checks and.
Speaker 3: You know or not?
Speaker 4: Right, am I lion? My lion? Oh shit, Doug, get
Speaker 4: us out of this, brother, Get us out of this,
Speaker 4: Get me out of this. I can't afford this conversation, man.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, it is. It is crazy. And the
Speaker 1: thing is them algorithms.
Speaker 2: They don't they don't they don't know no, they don't
Speaker 2: know no ages, they don't know no gender, they don't
Speaker 2: know none of that. They just they just feed it
Speaker 2: to you. Yep.
Speaker 3: And that's I think when you talk about the bro
Speaker 3: culture and the deficit with men, and then you add
Speaker 3: to that like crypto, right, because if you're into crypto,
Speaker 3: you're you know, it's mostly young men. Like when we
Speaker 3: were growing up, it was a big deal to get
Speaker 3: a bank account, your first checking account, to write your
Speaker 3: first check, to get your first check. Now you just
Speaker 3: download robin hood or coinbase, you buy yourself some doche
Speaker 3: cone coin, You go and Reddit and you talk about
Speaker 3: you know, to the moon and you know bitcoin this
Speaker 3: and theoryum that, and you know. And that's kids, particularly
Speaker 3: kids of color that are eighteen to twenty five, because
Speaker 3: that's their savings account. And you know that I think
Speaker 3: also has hurt the Democrats sum But kam La figured
Speaker 3: it out right, you started talking about it. She got
Speaker 3: to it and said, you know what that's this is
Speaker 3: their savings account, this is their net worth, and we're
Speaker 3: going to support them.
Speaker 4: So interesting, jove me crazy. Biden was slow to that,
Speaker 4: and she finally picked up on that.
Speaker 3: Mark he didn't give it.
Speaker 4: It was interesting. It's not a knockout. I mean, I
Speaker 4: love the guy, but it was interesting. It was a
Speaker 4: stubborn thing.
Speaker 3: Knocked on him. It was a knock on him. You know,
Speaker 3: he just didn't get.
Speaker 4: Out of market. Out of market. We all say get that, Gavin,
Speaker 4: go ahead, gub no. By the way, Mark was one
Speaker 4: of Cuban was one of the first to take bitcoin
Speaker 4: of the damn you were the maps, right, I know you.
Speaker 2: Because I know you the money man. So should I be?
Speaker 2: Should I be thinking?
Speaker 3: Jesus own a bunch, right, It's not a bad thing
Speaker 3: to own some bitcoin, a little bit of ethereum, you know,
Speaker 3: just to hold it there. It's like digital gold.
Speaker 4: What you're calling your broker?
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 1: You just know? I'm saying you don't, man, you don't
Speaker 1: fucking pair us up. No goddamn game from the money man.
Speaker 1: And think that you be all right when you hear
Speaker 1: the money man speak up, you listen, So hold on,
Speaker 1: say that one more time.
Speaker 3: Ethereum and it's just ethereum and bitcoin. That's what I
Speaker 3: would stick to. And let me just tell you. They
Speaker 3: can go down a lot. They can go. It's just
Speaker 3: like regular gold. You know. Gold is kind of the
Speaker 3: old school way to save money in a commodity and
Speaker 3: bitcoin and the theorem or the new school way. But
Speaker 3: the difference is it's easier when you do it all
Speaker 3: in and app and you can track it all and
Speaker 3: see what's going on. But you just got to put
Speaker 3: it away, just by a little bit. Put it away,
Speaker 3: forget about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, French, hold on, fish look bad.
Speaker 4: He likes his money.
Speaker 2: Mark I mean, you know I took.
Speaker 4: By the way, Mark, he's got a lot to invest.
Speaker 4: This son of a bitch saved all his money. He
Speaker 4: saved every damn penny.
Speaker 5: By the way, before you begin, Marshawn, this is funny. Hey, Mark,
Speaker 5: no bullshit. When I was Marshawn's asient back in the day,
Speaker 5: he had a million to one point two million dollars
Speaker 5: in fines going into Super Bowl and Goodell was gonna
Speaker 5: find him for not talking. He said, Hey man, I'm
Speaker 5: not giving any fucking white boy my money. Fuck this,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk and Mark. Tell them Mark, Marshawn, how
Speaker 5: many finds you accumulated in your career.
Speaker 3: I think one point two million was like the warm up.
Speaker 3: I was show like the ship they find me for.
Speaker 3: When I first got to the NBA, like my first year,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to get to know people on
Speaker 3: the squad, get to know the staff and everything. So
Speaker 3: you know the dudes that sit down next to the
Speaker 3: bench and they pick up all they give the gear
Speaker 3: and everything. So I'm saying, I'm gonna sit down there
Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna talk to him during the game.
Speaker 3: While I'm watching the game, I get a call the
Speaker 3: next day and it's David Stern. Rest in peace, Dave.
Speaker 3: He's a good dude. He said, I gotta find you. Mark.
Speaker 3: I'm like, for what con deck unbecoming an owner, for
Speaker 3: sitting on the floor next to the training staff. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's crazy, that's crazy. So and I said, you, well,
Speaker 3: two things. One I'm gonna mash out the charity, which
Speaker 3: I always did with my fines, and two, let me
Speaker 3: find a better way to get fined.
Speaker 1: Fuck y'all, hold on because I got more of because
Speaker 1: now you talk about the ownership, because I got I
Speaker 1: got a little bit with but ownership too, because I
Speaker 1: need some of that too, because you know the Seattle Cracking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I got you know, I mean I got
Speaker 1: my foot in it though, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean got a little ownership of the
Speaker 1: Seattle Cracking the hockey team. So I can't talk to
Speaker 1: the to the to the staff on ice right, So
Speaker 1: that that means I couldn't go down there and talk
Speaker 1: to them, otherwise I would get a fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what is this?
Speaker 2: Why you're aware?
Speaker 4: I never seen Marshawn with glasses. You can't prepare to
Speaker 4: be a student today with that man, who.
Speaker 1: The fuck would pass this fucking opportunity on getting this game?
Speaker 1: And see now we're here, now we're here.
Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't. Fucking you can't.
Speaker 1: Man, Come on now, Dah, you can't, batman, you can't
Speaker 1: have it. You can't have the money man sitting in
Speaker 1: front of you and not pick up some nuggets that
Speaker 1: he's dropping for you, especially when I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: into that you feel me on the next you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, understanding how this ship really worked. Now,
Speaker 1: I know you made a joke about you know, hitting
Speaker 1: my financial advisors, but already sent the text out this
Speaker 1: big coin and now I need to find ways.
Speaker 3: Marshan Marshaan, do this download that called coinbase coinbase yeah,
Speaker 3: or and or robin Hood and just play with it.
Speaker 3: Just get a feel, give yourself like one thousand dollars
Speaker 3: in there, five thousand dollars, and just play with it
Speaker 3: before you do anything else, just so you can get
Speaker 3: a feel for what's going on.
Speaker 1: All right, You ain't gonna lie first with because man,
Speaker 1: they came back to me probably like five five years ago,
Speaker 1: my boy see me Rice, and he like, man, you
Speaker 1: gotta get on this on this big coin, and he
Speaker 1: trying to explain to me, like how it works, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, so it's not really money, like I can't
Speaker 1: touch it, or is it like a real coin that
Speaker 1: they gonna get like hot?
Speaker 2: No, man, look, it's the new wave, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: This is what everybody gonna go to in the next
Speaker 1: few years. It's gonna be you know, I mean that
Speaker 1: paper money. You know what I mean because you say
Speaker 1: about you know, owning a bank account, and we know,
Speaker 1: shoe box money, money under the mattress, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean we didn't you know the bank account and how
Speaker 1: that worked, you know, the savings and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They taking a little bit out of this
Speaker 1: and going to invest it over here and doing thing
Speaker 1: was I don't know why why they taking my money?
Speaker 1: I don't I can't understand that. And then so now
Speaker 1: with this, I was, you know, I was really scared
Speaker 1: of it. Like so it's just make believe no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: It's digital, right, And so it's this thing called the blockchain,
Speaker 3: and it's a way to do different types of applications,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just like all your real money
Speaker 3: all you know, all your money in the bank, right,
Speaker 3: It's not there's not somebody there holding like however much
Speaker 3: you got in the bank, there's not somebody. There's not
Speaker 3: a box at the bank with all your money. Right.
Speaker 3: They put it in, they loan it out, they put it,
Speaker 3: get put it in different opportunities, and they track it
Speaker 3: all digitally. And with this with crypto, it's you know
Speaker 3: a little bit similar in that you can loan it out,
Speaker 3: you can use it for different applications, you can save it,
Speaker 3: and on a supply and demand basis for bigcoin and ethereum,
Speaker 3: if there's more demand than there is supply, then the
Speaker 3: price goes up. If there's more supply than there is demand,
Speaker 3: the price goes down. It's just like gold, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just like.
Speaker 2: Ya, So I knew.
Speaker 1: So I knew it was serious when I was at
Speaker 1: the UH at the casino and then I see you know,
Speaker 1: the ATM, and then they had next to it they
Speaker 1: had a bigcoin.
Speaker 3: Htm yeah, the big.
Speaker 6: Coin danger danger Like oh okay, so hey, so if
Speaker 6: y'all wasn't listening before, you know, I'm talking to the people,
Speaker 6: to my people, Hey.
Speaker 2: Y'all listen.
Speaker 1: Blockchain coin base Robin Hood yeah, I mean bitcoin and Eutherium.
Speaker 4: I feel like I need a disclosure usually your well Mark.
Speaker 5: I got to be honest, so you know, I work
Speaker 5: for Casey Washerman. You're a good friend, and I run football.
Speaker 5: It's been an Asian for thirty years, and I got
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, like I've always been a
Speaker 5: massive fan of you and what you've done because you've
Speaker 5: been cutting edge. And if you look at if you
Speaker 5: go back to when you bought the Maths in two thousand,
Speaker 5: you know, it's interesting because you came in as a
Speaker 5: young owner and immediately said, I got to get the team,
Speaker 5: the right facility, mental health, coach, playing all that, and
Speaker 5: you're still you were way ahead of the game twenty
Speaker 5: four years ago. And even today the relationships you had
Speaker 5: with your players and you talking about post career about
Speaker 5: financial literacy. Owners today, very few of them are doing that.
Speaker 5: And we're talking twenty four years later.
Speaker 3: Now. It's changed a lot too, because back in the day,
Speaker 3: like you know, even when Marshawn came into the league
Speaker 3: of the NFL, there's mostly individual owners in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and they're opening up now for investment groups. In the NBA,
Speaker 3: there's more investment groups than there are individual owners. And
Speaker 3: that's changed it, right because for me, like I was
Speaker 3: the only guy, and like I could do whatever I
Speaker 3: want to hang out, go to the clubs, chill, just
Speaker 3: get to know them. It was fun. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Check the algorithms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get the algorithm work. But you know, it also
Speaker 3: was about understanding what put us in the best position
Speaker 3: to win. How do you build culture, how do you
Speaker 3: build chemistry? What's going to put you know? One of
Speaker 3: the things I did. So when I first came in,
Speaker 3: there was a head coach and there were three assistant
Speaker 3: coaches and that was it. And I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: we spend more money on computer repairs and computer training
Speaker 3: than we do on development for our players. So I
Speaker 3: went out and I got five fifteen former Mavericks and
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on in. Each of you gets to
Speaker 3: signed a player and you're their workout coach, you're the
Speaker 3: skills development coach. And that's the whole thing. Now you go,
Speaker 3: you know, if you go to a game, watch before
Speaker 3: the game, if you get there early, how many coaches
Speaker 3: there are on the court working with the players. That
Speaker 3: all started back then, So they picked up on some stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's competitive. You know, every team's always looking for
Speaker 3: the edge.
Speaker 5: But Mark, did you look at did you look at
Speaker 5: like Eddie de Bartelow and what he did in Jerry
Speaker 5: Buston And did you take anything from those guys because
Speaker 5: there were the two owners prior to you that really
Speaker 5: number one took care of the players and had the relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love Jerry, but he was the best.
Speaker 3: Like when I first got there, he like took me
Speaker 3: under his wing and he was like, fuck, there was
Speaker 3: other owners. Like he told me a story about when
Speaker 3: he gave Magic Johnson a twenty five year contract for
Speaker 3: a million dollars a year after he got HIV, and
Speaker 3: he told me other stories I can't repeat, but it
Speaker 3: was just like, you know what, you be yourself. That's
Speaker 3: what got you here. Is what works for you. Don't
Speaker 3: change for us. Be yourself. And that's what I did.
Speaker 3: And literally I had one one meeting I was in
Speaker 3: early on and there was a dude who owned the Wizards,
Speaker 3: I think, and I'd already been find a couple of
Speaker 3: times and you know, getting a lot of media coverage,
Speaker 3: and in the meeting, he goes, you need to just
Speaker 3: shiit sit yourself down and shut the fuck up until
Speaker 3: you do something. And it's like some old dude and
Speaker 3: I like, I didn't even know his name yet and
Speaker 3: he's given me shit and like didn't starting to chill.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there was just a bunch of old dudes
Speaker 3: that didn't care. They didn't care about winning, which was
Speaker 3: good for me because like when there were times when
Speaker 3: they couldn't afford to keep the roster anymore, I would
Speaker 3: just swoop in and do a trade and and you know,
Speaker 3: take their best player, Dirk.
Speaker 1: So look, you know what's crazy about that is uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because I came from Buffalo, and you know,
Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson, I believe, was one of the original owners,
Speaker 1: and you know we really rarely had any uh contact
Speaker 1: with ing, but you know, every now and dan he
Speaker 1: would come. I remember I had a game and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he came in and was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to do something to get you some help.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, damn. Everybody was like, hold on,
Speaker 1: was that the owner?
Speaker 3: He just talked to me.
Speaker 1: So when I get traded to uh Seattle, you know,
Speaker 1: Paul Allen rest in peace.
Speaker 2: That's my dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a different guy. He's a different guy,
Speaker 3: but he was a party gold.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people was telling me, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul Allen and this and then the third and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Man, okay.
Speaker 1: So I had a Foundation dinner and he came, and
Speaker 1: everybody like what the fuck, Like, how'd you get How
Speaker 1: did you get Paul Alin to come to your fucking dam.
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, I don't know, but it came. He played,
Speaker 1: he played, played his guitar, and I sat next to him,
Speaker 1: and I'm just having conversation, like because in my head
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like everybody, oh, he's weird and this and
Speaker 1: that and the third.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, like man, fuck that. I'm like, hey, dog,
Speaker 2: what's hand? And man, how you doing? Like yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, everybody been telling me you weird and
Speaker 1: you park and shit, and I'm like, well, shit, you
Speaker 1: want to get a drink. You're like, shit, all right,
Speaker 1: what we drinking? I'm like Patrinity, he said, Patrol. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a half Look now, I'm excited. Man, It's a
Speaker 1: half shot of Patrol. It's a half shot of he
Speaker 1: and we don't be on and he like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, So man, I took the shot with him,
Speaker 1: like yeah, we politic the whole day for me at
Speaker 1: the event, you know what I mean, got people then
Speaker 1: and then this is when I'm like oh yeah, oh
Speaker 1: he different. So he gave me his email like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever need some help or you
Speaker 1: want to figure something out, yeah, don't hesitate to hit me.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to get a beast Mode store
Speaker 1: in Seattle. So I just hit him up like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up, man, I'm looking for a building and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. He didn't respond to me. But that day
Speaker 1: I got a call like, hey, man, Seawan, I'm so
Speaker 1: and so Paul Ellen you know told me you reached out.
Speaker 1: We heard you looking for a space. What you're looking for?
Speaker 1: So I told him to specs on what I'm looking for. Okay,
Speaker 1: when can you check it out? I'm in Oakland. I'm
Speaker 1: like today, say okay, cool?
Speaker 2: What time? I said, like around six?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: I flew from Oakland to Seattle. They took me to
Speaker 1: like three four different buildings. I'm like, oh, I like
Speaker 1: this one, okay, cool, it's done. I'm like, what you
Speaker 1: mean is done? Like it's done. When Paul says something, we.
Speaker 2: Go and get it done. And I'm like, god damn.
Speaker 2: So within what maybe four.
Speaker 1: Or five hours, I secured the building, secured the space
Speaker 1: is right, it was right next to the stadium, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, yeah, this this this guy.
Speaker 3: That's cool. This guy is this salary cap violation in
Speaker 3: the NBA.
Speaker 4: But that.
Speaker 3: You know, but no, I feel you that that's that's
Speaker 3: who he was. Man. He had a heart of gold.
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of owner that I like, I
Speaker 1: see you as like when it comes to some real ship.
Speaker 5: Why are more NFL owners not like you in the NBA?
Speaker 5: Is it just you think it's a level of players
Speaker 5: in the team, the amount of players turn.
Speaker 4: Over what you know.
Speaker 3: I'm a ball as life guy, you know, but half
Speaker 3: half the most fun I have is the games and
Speaker 3: the other half is like I get to go out
Speaker 3: in the court before a game and get up shots
Speaker 3: and play one on one or you know, get some
Speaker 3: running and when you live it, like, if you're a
Speaker 3: football guy at heart, you're gonna want to be out
Speaker 3: there and talking to people. If it's just a business,
Speaker 3: then you're not, you know, then you're just going to
Speaker 3: treat it as a business. You know, if you've played
Speaker 3: the game, but you know what it's like, like Marshawn,
Speaker 3: you know what it's like now you watch a game
Speaker 3: and your body's moving because you're looking and you're thinking, right,
Speaker 3: what's going on? Right? You know, anybody who's played, I
Speaker 3: don't care what level it is in basketball, when when
Speaker 3: it's your team and you're watching the game and you're
Speaker 3: you know, and you feel it the whole time, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: we And so that's the difference. Not some guys buy
Speaker 3: it for the investment. Some people buy it because it's
Speaker 3: the family business, or in it because of the family business.
Speaker 3: And some people, you know, they bought the team for
Speaker 3: the love of the game. And when you buy for
Speaker 3: the love of the game, you'll just see it's a
Speaker 3: whole different perspective market.
Speaker 4: But I'm curious because there's a there's different trains of thoughts.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, your success and what you've been able
Speaker 4: to build and brand and and and and and initiate,
Speaker 4: I mean so many ways, it's the culture you've initiated
Speaker 4: and inspired, But there are a lot of others sort
Speaker 4: of I can think of a few names. I won't
Speaker 4: mention where there's such a dominant owner that you sometimes
Speaker 4: wonder if that dominant owner weren't the one making every
Speaker 4: damn decision, or wasn't ubiquitous step back, had a different
Speaker 4: group come in, that the team would actually perform at
Speaker 4: a different level.
Speaker 3: I've been to both. When we were winning, I was
Speaker 3: a genius. When we were losing, I was a fucking idiot,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's a it's very Darwinian. Either
Speaker 3: it's on the left. I mean, it's in the wind
Speaker 3: column and you're going to the playoffs and you're getting somewhere,
Speaker 3: or it's not. And if you're an owner like I was,
Speaker 3: that was really involved. And part of the reason, Gavin
Speaker 3: is it's a lot of fucking money. I don't care
Speaker 3: who you are. You know, when you're making a decision
Speaker 3: on a contract that's going to be one hundred million
Speaker 3: or now one hundred and fifty or two hundred million,
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that the process is right
Speaker 3: and you're getting it right. And in the NFL it's
Speaker 3: a hard cap, you know, and it's you. Everybody gives
Speaker 3: themselves a little leeway to do buyouts, but if you
Speaker 3: get it wrong, particularly at the quarterback position, doesn't matter
Speaker 3: how smart you are. If you did everything right and
Speaker 3: then you got it wrong, and sometimes it's just luck.
Speaker 3: Luck is more important than ninety nine percent of anything
Speaker 3: else that happens in the NFL. If you get matched
Speaker 3: up with the conference that sucks, you know, and you
Speaker 3: got your game against them, you're gonna look like a
Speaker 3: hero in the NBA. You know. If if like the
Speaker 3: MAVs and we've been alive for forty five years, forty
Speaker 3: five drafts, not one time at the Mavericks ever got
Speaker 3: the number one pick. Not one time have the Mavericks
Speaker 3: ever moved up in the draft. Not I'm just talking
Speaker 3: about move up like the Luk a year, we worked
Speaker 3: really hard to have the third worst record, but we
Speaker 3: ended up with the fifth pick after the lottery.
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to say that out loud Mark said.
Speaker 2: We were really committed.
Speaker 3: The development season. It was a development season and that
Speaker 3: was hard because they were needed a lot of development.
Speaker 3: And we had the third worst record, ended up with
Speaker 3: the fifth pick, and that caught us cost us the
Speaker 3: draft pick. Then you look at San Antonio. Right, So
Speaker 3: I bought the team in two thousand and ninety eight,
Speaker 3: I forget, I'm not gonna get the years, right, but
Speaker 3: not one year they they they tank and they get
Speaker 3: David Robinson. Then David Robinson gets.
Speaker 4: Hurt and they Jim Duncan.
Speaker 3: Jim Duncan. Then this last year they get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I can't catch her break.
Speaker 5: In twenty fourteen, you said you kind of said the
Speaker 5: NFL in your mind had about a ten year run.
Speaker 5: You were a concern and do you see I mean
Speaker 5: to me as an NFL agent, you know people Number
Speaker 5: one of the gambling has been big, right, But people
Speaker 5: love the violence. They love the injuries, they love the hits,
Speaker 5: they love every play means something. Was your opinion back then,
Speaker 5: just from the standpoint of concussions and whatnot.
Speaker 3: That was a little bit of it. That was a
Speaker 3: little bit of it, and that's still kind of an issue.
Speaker 3: But my point back then was that they were trying
Speaker 3: to put it on too many nights of TV, and
Speaker 3: so they went it went from Sunday night and Monday
Speaker 3: night to Thursday night and then a Friday night game.
Speaker 3: Sometimes and whenever it was Saturday games sometimes and I
Speaker 3: thought it would be overpasturated. Obviously I was wrong. And
Speaker 3: what I didn't account for as much as I should
Speaker 3: have isn't so much gambling, even though that helps luck.
Speaker 3: But fucking fantasy sports.
Speaker 4: Fantasy, right, that's it.
Speaker 3: People like get pissed if you don't. They get pissed
Speaker 3: at you if like, if the over under, you don't
Speaker 3: do this, you don't do that, and you know they
Speaker 3: lose money. But fantasy sports, you know, they're thinking, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to wear a fucking dress to school if
Speaker 3: I lose this season, my god. Right, And that's what
Speaker 3: drove the NFL, because realize it was only thirty years
Speaker 3: ago that there was teams leaving in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night. Yep. And then all of a sudden Yahoo
Speaker 3: comes along and starts fantasy sports, you know, for the NFL,
Speaker 3: and bam, it just blows up, and it's the only
Speaker 3: sport that really works. Well. Basketball's got fantasy sports, but
Speaker 3: there's too many games you have all week to work
Speaker 3: on it. And the other thing about football that I
Speaker 3: didn't account for, there's only what twelve minutes of actual
Speaker 3: action in a football game, so it's a lot easier
Speaker 3: to watch football. If you look at the ratings, it's
Speaker 3: an inverse relationship between the amount of minutes played. The
Speaker 3: games with that have the most minutes, like soccer have
Speaker 3: the worst ratings because you got to watch the whole time.
Speaker 3: Baseball has the next worst ratings because you got to
Speaker 3: watch the whole time. Then basketball gets better because it's,
Speaker 3: you know, forty eight minutes, and then football's got twelve minutes.
Speaker 3: You can take a shit, you can you know, do
Speaker 3: your homework, and you're not going to miss the play.
Speaker 3: And it's just football is the easiest sports to watch.
Speaker 4: It's really interesting. Didn't you make a play for Well,
Speaker 4: you've made a play for hell, half the damn teams
Speaker 4: and all these leagues. I mean, I see your name
Speaker 4: as socially a couple, only a couple, Only a couple.
Speaker 3: But when I first made money in Soul broadcast dot Com,
Speaker 3: because I grew up in Pittsburgh, I took a look
Speaker 3: at the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Penguins. I wasn't a hockey guy,
Speaker 3: but they were. They were at thread of closing down
Speaker 3: or moving and so that's why I looked at it.
Speaker 3: But it didn't work out. Mary Lemieux ended up buying him.
Speaker 3: And then I looked at the Cubs in two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight because it was the Cubs. Didn't happen in
Speaker 3: twenty ten, you know the Cubs real quick. So I
Speaker 3: was talking to Sam I forget his last name, real
Speaker 3: estate guy, raspy voice, and I offered. I sat in
Speaker 3: his office and I offered him eight hundred million dollars
Speaker 3: for the Cubs. And he's going to get on his
Speaker 3: knee say thank you very much, you're right now. No,
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that's my offer. So that that's what
Speaker 3: happened there. And then twenty ten, the Rangers went up
Speaker 3: to bankruptcy and I was in the bidding for that
Speaker 3: in a bankruptcy court and Major League Baseball. But Celik,
Speaker 3: the the commissioner, just told people to tell me, there
Speaker 3: ain't no fucking way we're letting you win this. And
Speaker 3: then that's what happened there.
Speaker 4: What was that about? Just that was some personal thing?
Speaker 4: What wasn't They thought?
Speaker 3: They thought I was going to be the next George
Speaker 3: Steinbrenner in fuck up the no salary cap league.
Speaker 4: Well, Mark, we need you to come in and buy
Speaker 4: the age.
Speaker 5: When they were here.
Speaker 4: That's a fucking disasters, you know conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but I mean I've had enough. Baseball is
Speaker 3: too many games. I would be dead because I'd get
Speaker 3: so into it.
Speaker 5: And Mark, let me ask you a question as you
Speaker 5: won't you've been stated that you don't like traditional politics.
Speaker 5: But you know what, I know you've actually liked Gavin.
Speaker 5: You like him as a person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're kind of stuck saying that now, Mark
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: By the way, like you would not agree with you.
Speaker 4: So Mark's going to be completely honest. Thanks, asshole.
Speaker 5: But Mark, the second part of that is, as you know,
Speaker 5: there's been some rumors that the Oakland mayor might be recalled.
Speaker 4: And guess what we.
Speaker 3: Got, Marshan. He's a real politician.
Speaker 5: Now more we might have a dream team as a
Speaker 5: non traditional politician to run Oakland, which you're.
Speaker 4: Telling to give give him the best advice you can,
Speaker 4: stay away from politics and let him enjoy his life.
Speaker 3: Okay. You can have two different attitudes, right, there's the
Speaker 3: whole public service attitude and there's the ald what the fuck,
Speaker 3: let's just be what it's like attitude. Right, what's the
Speaker 3: word you lose? You learn, you win, You fuck them
Speaker 3: all up, right, you change the game.
Speaker 4: I like the latter. You've convinced me, Marshaan, you gotta
Speaker 4: do it, bro.
Speaker 1: Look get I told you man, I got a secret weapon. Man, Batman,
Speaker 1: you got to come.
Speaker 2: Through for me.
Speaker 3: So I did. I did Dancing with the Stars, and
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. I did Dancing with such which
Speaker 3: was the hardest scariest thing I've ever done in my life,
Speaker 3: dancing live in front of twenty two million people. But
Speaker 3: I did before, so that was cool. But and I
Speaker 3: said to myself, I don't want to be ninety five
Speaker 3: years old and look back on my in my last
Speaker 3: days and said what it could have should have Why
Speaker 3: didn't I do it? So if it's something you think
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty, forty fifty years you're gonna look back
Speaker 3: and say, damn, I should have done that, you always
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Don't dream of regretting. I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm in it, man, because you know. And
Speaker 1: the thing is when you talk about traditional politics and
Speaker 1: all of that type of shit, like not a traditional
Speaker 1: type of motherfucker.
Speaker 2: First and foreman.
Speaker 1: Then at the end of the day is like I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my city and what is really going through
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what I mean, the way
Speaker 1: I see it is like, you know, the politicians they're
Speaker 1: going there with with a mindset and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about you specifically, gathered, but you know, the
Speaker 1: motherfuckers beat bunk and they got a narrative and they
Speaker 1: got you know what I mean, ultier motives that they
Speaker 1: trying to get, you know what i mean, pushed and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: Most of them just want power. It's all about power, man,
Speaker 3: because if you, if you have don't have another skill,
Speaker 3: like you busted your ass, right, people don't realize what's evolved.
Speaker 3: Everybody tells you they could have been that next Marshawn Lynch, right,
Speaker 3: and you already come up, I'm going to be you.
Speaker 3: But then when you ask them how much work they do,
Speaker 3: it just don't add up, don't. It doesn't happen, right.
Speaker 2: They math ain't math. And when it comes to.
Speaker 3: It, politics is like the path of least resistance to
Speaker 3: get power. You can go and accomplished, and you can
Speaker 3: go and win an election. Just look at you know
Speaker 3: who Kambla Harris is running against.
Speaker 4: You know, and what is it? There's sort of an archetype.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I mean, let's talk. Why the hell
Speaker 4: are you Mark Cuban. You have put yourself so goddamn
Speaker 4: far out in this election. It's one thing you've dabbled
Speaker 4: in this stuff, you go. I mean, you've not just dabbled.
Speaker 4: You've been rumored to run for president yourself back in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. You had some fun with that as well.
Speaker 4: I thought you were pretty damn serious about it, and
Speaker 4: you supported candidates at all political parties, which is great.
Speaker 4: You kind of I mean sort of associated with a
Speaker 4: sort of a libertary framework. But man, you are next
Speaker 4: level all in for Kamala and that has all the
Speaker 4: benefits and all the damn risks attached to it. What
Speaker 4: are you doing? What are you thinking? I love it,
Speaker 4: but I appreciate it, But what are you thinking?
Speaker 3: I mean, this country is important to me. I don't
Speaker 3: you know, you guys don't know who the fuck I
Speaker 3: am if it weren't for all the things this country
Speaker 3: has given me and that I respect and I appreciate
Speaker 3: and don't take for granted. And I never really got
Speaker 3: into politics hard until Trump ran. And you know, initially
Speaker 3: I actually supported him because I thought he had no
Speaker 3: chance to win, and I just thought, Okay, he's not
Speaker 3: a politician. You know, he's going to bring a different
Speaker 3: perspective and that's cool, but he just doesn't do the work.
Speaker 3: He cares about himself. He doesn't, you know, understand policy
Speaker 3: or try to understand policy. It's all on feel. He's
Speaker 3: just a salesperson. He's not trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: And that scares me, you know. And we can get
Speaker 3: into all the things that we all read about and
Speaker 3: hear about and all that kind of stuff that's scary,
Speaker 3: That is really really scary, and I just don't want
Speaker 3: to see that for my kids. And honestly, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it would snowball like this, you know.
Speaker 3: But all I'm really doing is going out and doing
Speaker 3: interviews and doing town halls. It's not like you know, in.
Speaker 4: A rally or two here and there. You did one
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 3: That was one of those life experiences right where you're
Speaker 3: getting front, you know that stuff that was in front
Speaker 3: of ten thousand people and give it a speech.
Speaker 4: Man, you hit it, you nailed it. I texted you.
Speaker 4: I thought it was great, bro, you crushed it. Man.
Speaker 3: I was fine. I wrote it about ten minutes before
Speaker 3: I got there in the car on the way, so
Speaker 3: I'm looking on my phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had it on the phone. I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is a modern version.
Speaker 5: Geez Mark, let me ask you a question as an
Speaker 5: as an ex NBA owner.
Speaker 4: It's interesting.
Speaker 5: The other day I called literally sixty five of my
Speaker 5: clients across the NFL and I said, hey, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5: I don't care who you voting for. I'm just curious
Speaker 5: who do you think the majority of the locker room
Speaker 5: was voting for. And universally every one of them said Trump.
Speaker 5: And you're an NBA guy, Why do you think that is.
Speaker 5: As far as the athletes in terms of their mindset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they think he's going to be better for money,
Speaker 3: and that's why I'm out there. Tell him he's not
Speaker 3: the tariffs he's trying to propose awful for athletes. Right,
Speaker 3: they'll make but bigger picture, look, you know COMO will
Speaker 3: probably increase their income tax two percent, and to some
Speaker 3: people that's big deal, right, to other people, they'll put
Speaker 3: the country first. But the bigger thing is is how
Speaker 3: he's going to treat people. If you know, every single
Speaker 3: one of those players does something in the community. Almost
Speaker 3: all of them have foundations that get involved in the community.
Speaker 3: And if they think that Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 3: be supportive of people of color, They've got another thing coming.
Speaker 3: It's just going to make their lives harder. But look,
Speaker 3: athletes have never been known for doing the work. In
Speaker 3: terms of most people, ninety nine percent of people just now,
Speaker 3: like we're saying before, just get their information from memes.
Speaker 3: And you know, Dan well, you know, players are on
Speaker 3: Instagram all day every day looking for them.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good to hear though from somebody who you know,
Speaker 1: I mean actually, yeah, I mean done the work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you look at what's going on,
Speaker 3: Like there's thirty three million companies in this in this country,
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of them are small businesses, their sub
Speaker 3: chapter s or limited liability corporations through through pass through right,
Speaker 3: and Kamala has said if you make four hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars or less, your taxes are either going to stay
Speaker 3: the same or go down, which means ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: of the owners of those companies, their taxes are going
Speaker 3: to stay the same or go down. So there's nothing
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is doing that's going to impact positively
Speaker 3: any of those any of those companies. But on the
Speaker 3: flip side, if you're a small business, and let's well,
Speaker 3: let's just take a step back. Let's just say you're
Speaker 3: planning your Christmas buys for Christmas now, right right around now,
Speaker 3: you're thinking about what you're going to get your kids
Speaker 3: a year from now. Donald Trump's in office, and he
Speaker 3: puts sixty percent tariffs on China. Let me just tell you,
Speaker 3: most of the shit you were going to buy your family,
Speaker 3: friends and kids is from China, and that means all
Speaker 3: those prices are going up. So you tell the athletes wretch,
Speaker 3: You tell him you're like all the presents and shit
Speaker 3: you're going to get him next year. If you win,
Speaker 3: you're paying a whole lot more. But he gets worse, right,
Speaker 3: because where do you buy all that shit from a
Speaker 3: lot of it you buy from small businesses. You buy
Speaker 3: from your jewelry dude, right, You buy the shoes at
Speaker 3: that store that only the only one that carries your
Speaker 3: size in Atlanta, whatever it is, right, and you don't
Speaker 3: have as much money to spend because those tariffs jacked
Speaker 3: up all those costs. So those small businesses are suffering
Speaker 3: now too, And a lot of them are going to
Speaker 3: go out of business like they did last time. Trump
Speaker 3: got into a tariff for so I'm out there telling
Speaker 3: people this is what's going to happen if he does
Speaker 3: his tariffs. Most people just don't understand that. But I've
Speaker 3: had to live it.
Speaker 4: And by the way, that's why people are listening to it.
Speaker 4: We've been talking about this tear I must have. I've
Speaker 4: been out on the road. I give that tariff speech.
Speaker 4: No one gives a damn. You go out there and
Speaker 4: it's like, wait, it's like Marshawn pulls out the pen.
Speaker 4: It's like Cuban's saying this there he is like, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden.
Speaker 3: You've got to relate it to people's pocketbook. When you
Speaker 3: just say it's a tax, it's just like sales tax.
Speaker 3: People don't think twice right. But when you say, okay, Christmas.
Speaker 4: Christmas, I love it, and then you're the only guy
Speaker 4: saying that, only goddamn guy saying that. You're a spot
Speaker 4: on man.
Speaker 5: Well, well, Mark, Mark, My question is, so is combling
Speaker 5: them are they doing? Do they have the right message
Speaker 5: in terms of dumbing it down and giving the bullet
Speaker 5: points to what people need to hear, well.
Speaker 3: That's what they got me going out there because Kama, Look,
Speaker 3: Kamma just got out there thirteen weeks ago, and she
Speaker 3: would think about this, you got to do that was
Speaker 3: the president ran for president in twenty twenty, been campaigning
Speaker 3: ever since. So that's nine straight years he's campaigning or president.
Speaker 3: And in thirteen weeks this lady comes along that people
Speaker 3: just know she's the vice president, didn't have high favorable ratings,
Speaker 3: didn't have high visibility, and just up to the motherfucker right,
Speaker 3: you got all of a sudden, you know, that's like
Speaker 3: me running a race against Marshawn like and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm catching up. It's like, what the hell
Speaker 3: is going on? And so the published a lot. But
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, guys, the worst part of what
Speaker 3: I see from Donald Trump big picture, right, and that's deportations.
Speaker 3: He's talking about mass deportations. If you all know anybody
Speaker 3: who's got a relative that isn't all doesn't have all
Speaker 3: their documentation down, like you might have somebody whose grandmother
Speaker 3: came over thirty years ago or grandpap came over thirty
Speaker 3: years ago, and they got three American kids and four
Speaker 3: American grandkids. Don't be surprised if someone comes knocking on
Speaker 3: their door. Don't be surprised if someone shows up at
Speaker 3: your office and goes, okay, I want to know. You know,
Speaker 3: there's this thing called I nine which determines their immigration
Speaker 3: status and everything their worst status. I want your I
Speaker 3: nine list of every single employee so I can go
Speaker 3: knock on their door at their house to find out
Speaker 3: there's anybody undocumented there. And don't be surprised if all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, like the way Trump is talking about
Speaker 3: using this American I forget the AA of seventeen ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Was yeah, I mean, I mean this which we use
Speaker 4: to in turn the Japanese, but it's worse like so
Speaker 4: literally with this this law from seventeen ninety eight, if
Speaker 4: he says that we're at war, just like that's how
Speaker 4: we got the tariffs, and he said we were at
Speaker 4: war with China, economic war.
Speaker 3: With China, and so if he does something like that,
Speaker 3: it's not just about deporting people who are here illegally
Speaker 3: or undocumented. He can take somebody who's here legally. So
Speaker 3: if he says we've got something going on with Venezuela,
Speaker 3: you're here legally, you've got residency, Siah, he's got that option.
Speaker 3: Imagine what happens, Maean in Oakland if somebody's knocking on
Speaker 3: doors going through I don't know Oakland at all, but
Speaker 3: going through a part of part of town where there's
Speaker 3: a community where there are a lot of undocumented people.
Speaker 3: They may be grandparents, they may be workers, whatever it
Speaker 3: is that have been here for decades, and people start
Speaker 3: pulling people out of the house. I mean, do you
Speaker 3: how do you think people are going to respond.
Speaker 2: I know how they're going to respond.
Speaker 3: That's right, Oakland.
Speaker 2: It's already violent.
Speaker 1: It'll get it'll get even even more violentating you know
Speaker 1: how people feel about.
Speaker 2: They you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: They their family, right, you can't come.
Speaker 2: Their grandparents, like, that's one thing.
Speaker 3: You know, cousins, their nephews, right. We all know somebody
Speaker 3: who's got somebody undocumented in their family. We know somebody
Speaker 3: who's undocumented.
Speaker 5: And so Mark, you think you think this starts like
Speaker 5: day twenty if he gets in like right away, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think he can start doing that immediately. But
Speaker 3: he's going to set it up. He's talking about it
Speaker 3: every day. He's talking about it single Day.
Speaker 4: And Mark just I mean, as Mark reminds everybody and
Speaker 4: from Marshawn and Doug and everyone listening to tariffs, you
Speaker 4: don't need Congress. Now President of the United States has
Speaker 4: the unilater ability to impose these tarrorsts sixty percent on
Speaker 4: all imported goods from China up to twenty percent, and
Speaker 4: about three point one trillion dollars of imported goods from
Speaker 4: the rest of the world. We're not even talking about
Speaker 4: retaliatory terraffs.
Speaker 3: So let me tell you about retaliatory tariffs. Let's just
Speaker 3: say you want start a company that exports all all
Speaker 3: the merch that you have. Right, do you guys sell
Speaker 3: merchandise anywhere outside the country be smoke, Yeah, my beast.
Speaker 1: Mode apparel, Like if you get yeah, I mean somebody
Speaker 1: buy from from overseas or some year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they don't make it, so you can't
Speaker 3: afford it. The stuff that you where do you make
Speaker 3: your stuff? The beast Bode merchandise, where do you make it?
Speaker 2: We make some over in China.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, all of a sudden that beast Boad stuff
Speaker 3: went up from China went up sixty percent, and from
Speaker 3: Philippines went up twenty percent. What's that doing to your business?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurt. That hurt a lot.
Speaker 4: And that's, by the way, Marshall, that's literally what he's proposing.
Speaker 4: That's his closing argument in this campaign. And he's delusional
Speaker 4: about it. Mark's making this point. He literally doesn't understand.
Speaker 4: He's stuck on stupid back in the nineteen eighties mindset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he tried it before and what ended up
Speaker 3: happening is China kicked his ass. So he said, China,
Speaker 3: we're going to tear if you and all this stuff
Speaker 3: because I want people to make this stuff here. Let's
Speaker 3: just walk through this, right. If somebody could make something
Speaker 3: like just say, like your merchandise, if they can make
Speaker 3: it here at an affordable price, they'd already be doing it.
Speaker 3: The reason they don't make it here, like I would
Speaker 3: start that business if I could do it and take
Speaker 3: that business back. And I have a couple of businesses
Speaker 3: we you know, set up robotics manufacturing and brought manufacturing back.
Speaker 3: But if they can make it here, they would have
Speaker 3: done it already. The reason they don't do it is
Speaker 3: Americans won't pay more for made in America products. We
Speaker 3: just won't. If everybody paid twenty percent more for everything.
Speaker 3: Then you know, beast Mode products could just make it here.
Speaker 4: And by the way, here's in a perfect proof point
Speaker 4: of that Mark is the Trump Bible is made in China,
Speaker 4: in damn China. Can't make the shut up?
Speaker 2: Is his shoes made out there too?
Speaker 4: His ties are made there is God. We don't even
Speaker 4: bring up the sneakers bro or the Swiss watch that's
Speaker 4: made down at some local damn shopping mall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. You know, you know why somebody
Speaker 3: you know why he sells all that shit because he
Speaker 3: has to.
Speaker 4: Money that's not for the campaign. That's part. He's got
Speaker 4: his own crypto thing too. Make Sean Marshaun doesn't write
Speaker 4: that one down. Hey, Mark, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, and back in the day you
Speaker 5: were you were friends with them and all that and
Speaker 5: going through all this stuff. Now does he call you
Speaker 5: offline and say, hey, Mark, come on, man, like what
Speaker 5: have you? You don't talk to me any more like that?
Speaker 3: And then I talked to him, and since he invited
Speaker 3: me to the White House at the end of his term,
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 4: I'm saying with me, man, about the same time, so
Speaker 4: he did his truth.
Speaker 3: Social thing about me, and he said, oh, I'm a bully.
Speaker 3: I stuck this and that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you suck as a golfer, bro, what's up with that?
Speaker 3: Come on, Cuban, I told so, I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: you guys. The truth of what I told everybody else
Speaker 3: is I could I'll drive him anytime, right, I take
Speaker 3: you that. The reality is I am golf since nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty nine. So when he says he's seen me golf,
Speaker 3: it's so full of shit, right of my one of
Speaker 3: my customers. And I was one of these dudes that
Speaker 3: like I hadn't practiced, and I got so mad. I
Speaker 3: was ready to throw clubs in front of one of
Speaker 3: my customers. And I was like, there's no chance I
Speaker 3: can't do this. I'll kill my company. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: so he talks about my golf clubhead speed and how unethleft.
Speaker 3: I am like he's the beast right. Hey?
Speaker 4: You know Mark, just you know is we're sure I'm
Speaker 4: worried about not getting all this stuff and we could
Speaker 4: talk to you forever, man. But I loved your mindset
Speaker 4: of just about you know, putting everything out on the line,
Speaker 4: and you know, you get one chance at life you got.
Speaker 4: I mean his Doug loves to say, you have only
Speaker 4: so many summers left, and having that mindset just you're
Speaker 4: just constantly going, going, going, going. One of the things
Speaker 4: that I really appreciate, Admyer. You've also gone into one
Speaker 4: of the most difficult, goddamn businesses in the world, one
Speaker 4: of the most opaque businesses in the world, and that's
Speaker 4: the healthcare and drug space, with this cost plush drug
Speaker 4: dot com business, which I know you and I have
Speaker 4: had a few exchanges about how the hell is that going?
Speaker 4: And tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Man. It's called costplus Drugs dot Com. And you talked
Speaker 3: about the drug industry being opaque before us. You know,
Speaker 3: you get a prescription, the doctor just says what pharmacy
Speaker 3: do you use? And you really don't know what it's
Speaker 3: going to cost. If you're a self insured employer, you
Speaker 3: have no idea what your medications cost to this day.
Speaker 3: So what we did, we said, you go to costplus
Speaker 3: Drugs Drugs dot Com and Marshan pay attention to this one,
Speaker 3: and you put in this drug called Toadila phil Todd
Speaker 3: Dila Phil right, which is generic cialis I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: but if you put that in right and and up
Speaker 3: it comes, we show you your cost. So we show
Speaker 3: your cost of what it is, and we show you
Speaker 3: our markup which is fifteen percent, and then we show
Speaker 3: you our shipping and handling on our pharmacy fee which
Speaker 3: is ten bucks, or you can pick up a local pharmacy.
Speaker 3: By doing that, we've cut the cost of medications for people,
Speaker 3: in some cases thousands of dollars per month. Like I
Speaker 3: had one friend he had to drug DROXI doopa, which
Speaker 3: I still don't know what it does. He was looking
Speaker 3: at having to pay ten thousand dollars every three months.
Speaker 3: I said, can carry it. We carried it sixty four
Speaker 3: dollars a month. And now it's even cheaper than that.
Speaker 3: And so we're just blowing up. I mean, if people
Speaker 3: are just going in there, and not only are our
Speaker 3: patients checking it out and saving a lot of money,
Speaker 3: but now there's like research companies because we publish our
Speaker 3: price lists that are going out and saying, Okay, if
Speaker 3: the federal government or even the state of California had
Speaker 3: bought all their medications through costplus Drugs dot Com, then
Speaker 3: you would have say, you know, medicare would have saved
Speaker 3: three point six billion for these nine drugs, six point
Speaker 3: three billion a year for these eleven. It's it's insane.
Speaker 3: And so just that transparency. And I'll tie this back
Speaker 3: to kalmblom So when I talked to her team and
Speaker 3: we start talking about ways to cut costs of living
Speaker 3: for families and households, we talk specifically about this that
Speaker 3: if you start to take on and Gavin you know
Speaker 3: about the stuff, If you start to take on the
Speaker 3: pharmacy benefit managers, the pharmacy middleman who set the prices
Speaker 3: of medications, you're going to to be able to have
Speaker 3: an impact. And if you introduce on top of that
Speaker 3: transparency like cost plus is done, then you're gonna cut
Speaker 3: cost immediately. And you know, with what she's proposing, I
Speaker 3: truly believe that you can cut costs twenty thirty forty
Speaker 3: percent for medications for people's households. And that's a big
Speaker 3: upset against inflation. And it means, you know, for lots
Speaker 3: of families, they're spending lots less. And even if you
Speaker 3: have good insurance, if your if your copay or you're
Speaker 3: deductible is high, this would still that approach would still
Speaker 3: save them a lot of money, which would turn things
Speaker 3: around in terms of how to pocket costs for families.
Speaker 2: And what's the name of that company again?
Speaker 3: Ax plus Drugs dot com? And just put in generic Viagra.
Speaker 4: What oh, all of a sudden, these two guys looked up.
Speaker 3: Because tell you, this is what I tell all my friends, right,
Speaker 3: I'm like, it costs you for a for a big
Speaker 3: bag of M and ms, it costs you about ten
Speaker 3: bucks and you can put them in a bowl next
Speaker 3: to your bed where ever. You can get ninety generic
Speaker 3: Silist or generic Biographer nine dollars and ninety cents plus
Speaker 3: shipping and handling.
Speaker 2: You know, and go beat the breaks off some ship.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: Beating ship down. Hear me jumping off the ceiling light.
Speaker 4: Ship and mark to be young and single, Mark to bees.
Speaker 3: That's not the next mayor of Oakland, Californ.
Speaker 4: There you are, Jesus, really, mister good is that doing
Speaker 4: to represent Oakland? Thank you, Jesus.
Speaker 3: Remain to the birth rate in this country.
Speaker 1: Right hey man? And that and that brings a stress
Speaker 1: level down, man down. And you know when you got
Speaker 1: more happy people, you got more happy times.
Speaker 4: Yes, all go mershawn.
Speaker 3: I'm here for you. I'm just trying to do my part.
Speaker 4: And Mark, you have a question.
Speaker 5: Going back way back when, Mark, I was curious because
Speaker 5: when you dropped out of high school your senior year
Speaker 5: to go to college, well, your parents behind that, your
Speaker 5: friends like, what the fuck is this guy doing? I mean,
Speaker 5: that was the coolest thing in the world, the hustle
Speaker 5: and grind you had back then. Dude, I applaud big time,
Speaker 5: man because I've been the same way. And how was
Speaker 5: their reaction back then when they did that.
Speaker 3: I didn't really tell them. And so I took classes
Speaker 3: at night at the University of Pittsburgh my junior year
Speaker 3: and I did well, right, And yeah, I was sixteen.
Speaker 3: I didn't get a's. I got b's, which is first
Speaker 3: sixteen year old in college. Was cool, but so I
Speaker 3: wasn't one of those super you know, geniuses that just
Speaker 3: taste everything. But then, so I was already in the
Speaker 3: University of Pittsburgh. I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go to college and literally because I'm going to have
Speaker 3: more fun in college than I was in high school
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm sixteen a little bit now. But
Speaker 3: I waited more than I do now when I was
Speaker 3: like a sophomore in junior in high school, and I
Speaker 3: was five inches shorter, and so I kind of glowed
Speaker 3: up afterwards, and I was starting to, you know, by
Speaker 3: the time my senior year came along, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to take take advantage of that mark.
Speaker 5: But going back to the early days of maths, I mean,
Speaker 5: you were you were single for how many years before.
Speaker 4: You you're going here?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 5: Three years only he owned hold On Gavin, he owns
Speaker 5: just freaking team.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, that's why I've said, Thank god it was
Speaker 4: only three and Mark, Mark, God bless you man. We
Speaker 4: talked about being on borrow time.
Speaker 5: I mean, that must have been some of the funnest
Speaker 5: years of life, owning the fucking.
Speaker 4: Developing a long term relationship. No, give some more meaning
Speaker 4: and purpose.
Speaker 3: Let's take a couple of years before that. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: go after I sold my first company. It was company
Speaker 3: called micro Solutions, and I got a few million bucks
Speaker 3: out of it. So remember the old school steakhouses that
Speaker 3: like in the movie Casino, where they had these phone
Speaker 3: jacks and you can get a phone and you can
Speaker 3: plug it in and call somebody. Oh yeah, to one
Speaker 3: of these old school steakhouses. I was just fuck up.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would want another level of stuttering and
Speaker 3: stumbling and all that. And they're like, what do you
Speaker 3: want to get? And I'm not really into cars. I
Speaker 3: already had a house, and I was like, I want
Speaker 3: to get a lifetime pass and American Airlines I want
Speaker 3: to see if they have them. So I ask for
Speaker 3: the phone, I plug it in. I'm like, hello, American Airlines,
Speaker 3: do you guys have lifetime passes? Sure, let me connect
Speaker 3: you to the air pass department. So hungover and all,
Speaker 3: they send me stuff the next day FedEx, and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it and it's like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars for me and somebody else to fly
Speaker 3: wherever we wanted on American airlines for the rest of
Speaker 3: my life. Holy shit, that's when I had fun.
Speaker 4: Oh you can do them, yeah, of course. The son
Speaker 4: of a bitch a few years later buys a g
Speaker 4: something online for forty goddamn million bucks, So you never
Speaker 4: even use the damn thing.
Speaker 2: You can buy lifetime pass.
Speaker 4: Not anymore, not anymore?
Speaker 2: What are you grandfathered in?
Speaker 3: No? So I actually I gave it to one of
Speaker 3: my friends. After my dad. So you're not supposed to
Speaker 3: be able to give it away, but I give it
Speaker 3: to my dad he passed, and then I gave it
Speaker 3: to one of my friends who doesn't fly that much
Speaker 3: but uses it.
Speaker 2: Well if they don't, Yeah, I mean't find it handy anymore.
Speaker 3: You're next.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know I might be able to put
Speaker 2: that to use.
Speaker 3: I tell you, by John, I used to spend some
Speaker 3: time living in Manhattan Beach in LA and I would
Speaker 3: just go on to the clubs. I'd be like, I
Speaker 3: want to go to Vegas. What come on, let's just
Speaker 3: go right now.
Speaker 5: I want to go by the way Mark. Manhattan Beach
Speaker 5: is my happy place. I'm down there every July. My
Speaker 5: daughter plays beach volleyball. I love Manhattan Beach. That was
Speaker 5: your stomping ground Bay Jesus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still got a spot there. Show Backs is
Speaker 3: my spot.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, Well then it begs this question, what spot?
Speaker 4: Come on, Cuban, tell the truth. Is it Treasury or SEC?
Speaker 4: What the hell?
Speaker 3: No? Nothing, I don't want I was just trolling the beach,
Speaker 3: were joking.
Speaker 4: You were having just because of all the for obvious reasons,
Speaker 4: having fun on the SEC Treasury is legit though I'm
Speaker 4: just no.
Speaker 3: LETJB. Diamond get that. I mean to be fun to
Speaker 3: have your name on the money, that would be cool
Speaker 3: as shit. But yeah, I like Cosplos Drugs dot Com.
Speaker 3: I think I can have more impact on the outside
Speaker 3: than on the inside. And I just I cannot see
Speaker 3: putting on a suit every day and go to work. Literally,
Speaker 3: when I after I sold my first company, I got
Speaker 3: rid of my watches that I'd never wear a watch
Speaker 3: again because that means I have to be on somebody
Speaker 3: else's time. And until I got an eye watch for workouts,
Speaker 3: didn't wear a watch for years decades. And I don't
Speaker 3: want to go back to having to work on somebody
Speaker 3: else's clock. I want to be a life.
Speaker 4: I admire your clarity on that, and I've heard you
Speaker 4: answer similarly, so I appreciate your consistency, but also just
Speaker 4: reinforces how how meaningful your support of Kamala is at
Speaker 4: this critical time. No bullshit. I'm just you know, I'm curious,
Speaker 4: do you really I mean, if Trump actually pulls us
Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends who are like, come on, man,
Speaker 4: we survived the first four years. You said the same
Speaker 4: thing he said the sky was gonna come in. You
Speaker 4: overstated everything. We were fine up until COVID things were
Speaker 4: pretty good. Do you, I mean, you really feel this
Speaker 4: is as existential as some have made it out.
Speaker 3: Like Tony Soprano when he was a baby gangster and
Speaker 3: first got control of the family, he wasn't all that powerful.
Speaker 3: But when you're in and you already know the ropes,
Speaker 3: who knows. Look, I'm not gonna say it's one hundred
Speaker 3: percent he's going to be all that, but it's certainly
Speaker 3: greater than zero percent. And that greater than zero percent
Speaker 3: is enough for me just to say, it's just I
Speaker 3: don't want to take that risk.
Speaker 2: It's just there's no So how does that the situation? Right?
Speaker 1: So you had a pandemic and Dennis like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well Trump gave us all this money base and then
Speaker 1: you know when they finally comes out like oh no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a Trump thing, like a yeah, so it
Speaker 1: is this something whereas like there's money put aside for
Speaker 1: when you have a pandemic or something.
Speaker 3: That's now there's no money put this guy for anything.
Speaker 3: Now we're we're in debt.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It's just it's no different than your house, right, you know,
Speaker 3: you know people that are in debt and no matter
Speaker 3: how hard they work, they keep on falling further. For
Speaker 3: it's like using a credit card. Right, If you use
Speaker 3: a credit card and it's that twenty nine percent interesting,
Speaker 3: you don't pay in thirty days, it's just like it's
Speaker 3: going to add up fast. And that's what's happening to,
Speaker 3: you know, with us. So the question becomes, who's going
Speaker 3: to cut the deficit and how are you going to
Speaker 3: do it? And that's a real question. Like I sat
Speaker 3: down and did this interview with Kamala and you know,
Speaker 3: I asked her how do we cut the deficit? And
Speaker 3: there's like she was like, look, and she did this
Speaker 3: as ag. She's like, you got to look at programs
Speaker 3: to see what's efficient and what's working and what's not
Speaker 3: and some things you're going to have to cut. Others,
Speaker 3: you know, you have to look big picture that you
Speaker 3: don't want to cut them, but you can make them
Speaker 3: more efficient. You can use technology, you can use new tools,
Speaker 3: you can you know, she told this story at one speech,
Speaker 3: But it only took one year to build the Empire
Speaker 3: State building one year, and it takes longer than that
Speaker 3: just to think about getting permits these day, and so
Speaker 3: she's talked about reducing that. And if you start doing
Speaker 3: those things and growing, then you can deal with the deficit.
Speaker 3: But if you're Trump and you've got all these tariffs
Speaker 3: and you crush the economy, you can't grow your way
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 4: I love it, and speaking the way out, You're out
Speaker 4: of Shark Tank. One more season, Huh.
Speaker 3: That's it. I'm done filming. This is my fifteenth season.
Speaker 3: That was enough. We shoot in September and June. In
Speaker 3: September in Culver City, it's sony, but June is when
Speaker 3: my kids would always get out of school. In September
Speaker 3: is when they go back, and I was always missing
Speaker 3: the shit. And I was like, you know, when they
Speaker 3: were little, I can make them work around my schedule
Speaker 3: and do what I want them to do. Now that
Speaker 3: they're teenagers in twenty one, they don't give a shit
Speaker 3: about me. Right, I got to work to their schedule,
Speaker 3: and so I don't want to miss that.
Speaker 4: And was that a big honestly, was that a big
Speaker 4: part of why you sold the majority stake in the
Speaker 4: mass so much?
Speaker 3: A little bit, right, because like we were just talking
Speaker 3: about all the shit owners get and like, if you're
Speaker 3: doing well, you're a hero. And if not, everybody say,
Speaker 3: I don't want my kids to be in that position,
Speaker 3: at least the way things are right now. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's not that they would take over tomorrow, but I've
Speaker 3: seen what happen where it just destroys the kids of owners.
Speaker 3: You know that that come in and it's not easy.
Speaker 3: And so that's part one, and part two is just
Speaker 3: the nature of the economics of the game. Like when
Speaker 3: it was media and tech, I was the guy, right,
Speaker 3: you couldn't get anything by me. I knew what was
Speaker 3: going on. I would do shit in the league wild
Speaker 3: say don't do it, I do it. Then they start
Speaker 3: doing it, and that I had an advantage. Now the
Speaker 3: whole thing is real estate, real estate, and see, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's just not my thing. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to be in a position where I'm putting up two
Speaker 3: billion dollars to get an education on real estate and gaming,
Speaker 3: you know. And so so that was the other reason
Speaker 3: I sold.
Speaker 4: So, Mark, would you would you get back in the
Speaker 4: Entourage series again?
Speaker 3: Mark?
Speaker 4: If it came back.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Actually, Doug Ellen put together a little something,
Speaker 3: so we'll see if it catches on that I went
Speaker 3: back to. That was so much fun. And my boy
Speaker 3: Russ Wilson, right, he's on the Steelers. Now we did
Speaker 3: the truck.
Speaker 4: We know, Russ. Someone did hand marshawn the ball off
Speaker 4: Mark in the shop. Jesus, we really we got to
Speaker 4: go back to that. That was the guy upstairs conspiracy
Speaker 4: because you're living, Marshan is not just bring.
Speaker 2: Live, let me live. Let me tell you this fresh
Speaker 2: you should have You should have pulled me by the
Speaker 2: you know, I mean by the collar, like, hey, I
Speaker 2: understand this football thing is is all right, but you
Speaker 2: should have pulled me, told me to go get a
Speaker 2: jump shot or something. Because when you said that one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: Two, honey, that ship sound a little that sounds a
Speaker 1: little different.
Speaker 3: It's real money, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That sounds like I'll be able to do something
Speaker 2: for my family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do something. You know, there's still time.
Speaker 2: They're still tired.
Speaker 5: Oh but Mark, I gotta tell you, man, I got it,
Speaker 5: and honestly, I I what you've done. I mean, look,
Speaker 5: everybody in Collweg says want to start a bar.
Speaker 3: You did it.
Speaker 5: You bought an NFL. You bought an NBA team. You've
Speaker 5: got outspoken to what you believe in.
Speaker 4: I mean, what you've done, how you live your life,
Speaker 4: taking on big pharma. Brother, that's next level. You don't
Speaker 4: even you guys don't appreciate what Mark's doing in that space.
Speaker 5: Bro, I do, Gavin and Mark. When my dad died
Speaker 5: when I was sixteen, I said, I'm on borrowed time.
Speaker 5: And you live that way, man, and I appreciate how
Speaker 5: you've lived. You've done it the right way. You've been outspoken. Uh,
Speaker 5: it's really cool to see how you've lived and as
Speaker 5: a father and a business guy and all that has
Speaker 5: been very very impressive. Man.
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, very very When I die, I.
Speaker 3: Want to come back as me.
Speaker 4: That's so good. Damn, Mike Drop, that's good. Legit, legit,
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. I'm jealous.
Speaker 5: So Mark, anytime you want to get your your plane
Speaker 5: or the American.
Speaker 4: Airlines saying you want to road friends, we'll take it.
Speaker 3: We're all in Mark, We're all in elevation ceremony. When
Speaker 3: Marshawn wins Oakland, it's.
Speaker 4: All talking about Harris. I like that keeps sanity for
Speaker 4: four more years in this country. Thank you brother. Great
Speaker 4: to have you here, man, thanks for.
Speaker 3: Having me on. I really had fun.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I'm going to check these out immediately.
Speaker 1: I'm going to check them out immediately.
Speaker 3: You know how to get hold of me.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Mark, I appreciate it. I appreciate you brother.
Speaker 2: I'll take care