WEBVTT - Calling Your Broker With Mark Cuban 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.000 You can't have the money man sitting in front of 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.800 you and not pick up some nuggets that he's dropping 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.280 for you. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.400 Man, what's hand him? 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:06.560 Man? 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.960 You got Marshan, Besma Lynch. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.200 Doug Hendrickson and Gavin knew Something. You're listening to politickets. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:14.520 You to be you known to be? 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.599 Mark Cuban, How you doing, Buddy good Man? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:27.240 How are you doing? 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.920 I appreciate you. Jesus Christ. Where the hell haven't you been? Cuban? 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.480 You've been on every I turned on the TV today. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.639 It was like Mark Cuban coming up next. Cuban said this, Well, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.120 panel comes back in five minutes. What the hell was 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.280 wrong with? Cuban says, so and so on Fox? 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.120 Playoffs? It's the playoffs, man, Jesus Christ. In practice, we're 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.320 talking playoffs. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.320 Man, oh man, there's nothing you went the hell you're 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.000 gonna be like on the Cartoon Network next week or something? 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.280 You know? I got that coming up next, Jesus. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.400 And Mark only know was Marshawn wanted you was his 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.880 own and when he played Mark, but he couldn't shoot threes. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.680 Yeah, you know, but we needed somebody in the pain. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.880 I don't think anybody. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.360 Oh yeah, dog and you feel me, big dog and 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.959 sheep what you got? 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.920 But you you got? You got play over there now, man. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.640 Yeah, no, it was tough. It was good last night. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.119 What the hell was that what he had? I don't 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.000 like this as a warrior guy, I don't want that 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.160 much left in the tank. It kind of pissed me off. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.559 Twenty two points. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.000 No, no, Gavin, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't tell me. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.800 I know, I know. I ain't hating on Clay, just 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.080 the opposite. I just hated him leaving. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.559 Get the hage balls out your body and my boy 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.760 was out there pulling like a motherfucker, walked from everywhere. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.959 Didn't get a chance to watch the game, but he 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.400 made his first but then his next one just like 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.440 missed everything, and everybody's like you just. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.920 Hear the and then it's just bam bam bad. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.600 Then you knew what he had, man, it. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.360 Was just what he had like six six threes or something. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.800 Right the hell was that bounding he had? 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.400 Like he had hustle, re making passive. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.920 I mean, I'm happy. He's a good dude. Man, he's 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.200 a really good guy. I'm happy for him. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:07.760 And Mark. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.960 Let me let me start by saying that I just 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.160 heard you on the All In podcast, And let me 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.239 tell you something, we are much funner hosting. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.040 Those guys are. No, we don't, we don't. We don't 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.160 mess with fellow podcasters. Bro, those guys are an exception. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.160 I'm willing to accept that one. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.400 Though, Mark, as you, we are the state school kids. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.840 We're the hustles like you were. I sell the shoes 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.400 at twelve. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:29.600 We're not. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.680 We're not the Ivy League guys like those guys are. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.760 So it could be a funner podcast for you. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.040 I'm ready, I'm ready. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.600 Yeah, but I heard you was just with my boys 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.240 with an all the smoke too, with a. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.079 Yeah yeah I know then and Matt Forever, Man, those 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:43.679 guys are cool. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.280 Yeah they are man, they yeah, they actually I mean, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.120 you know, just you know, I mean com a word. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.520 So you know when they had they run out there 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.520 in Oakland for sure though, and then you. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.760 Know Matt, Yeah, well, I say I had to give 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.360 Jack a lot of shit because he was on that 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.720 team that we were sixty seven, the Warriors beat us, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.640 that we believe team, and that was just like there 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:05.200 was no fun. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.560 Yeah, yeah, you know, they both came. They both came 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.200 through Oak and so man, you know, I was a 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.880 youngster to looking up and they they attitudes was something 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.520 that just you feel me though, I connected with like, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.919 you know, bigger than basketball. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.399 And you might catch them. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.200 You know, I probably shouldn't be saying, but you know, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.600 you could catch them out at the at the clubs 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:27.320 and that, and. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.960 Really doctor hears that. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.600 You might catch them and Mangoes and Jeffrey's or something. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.680 I'm like, motherfucker, and they're looking at like, little young 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.400 ass boy, what the hell your young ass doing it? 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:39.600 Here? 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.160 Shit saying now you're doing big. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.320 Dump because I can. Let's go because I can. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.840 Yeah, Govin, you got to jump right in, Gavin, you 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.440 got some stuff from Mark now I know it. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:55.200 But no what I'm crawling out of my skin this 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.840 week with and I'm sorry that just a little bit 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.000 of politics. We can get on all this other good stuff. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:00.840 I want to talk about it. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.680 But just a little bit, man, I'm serious about this. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.800 When the La Times decided not to endorse and then 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:11.880 the Washington Post doubled down on that, and it just 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.120 opened up a lot. I mean, you can't help but 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.240 just wonder what the hell that's all about? Really, what's 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:18.760 that about. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.039 Yeah. I mean there's two things there right. One is 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.159 does it really matter? Okay, because in this day and age, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.400 they're not the gatekeepers anymore, you know ten years ago, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.000 maybe five years ago even a little bit. But now, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.839 I mean it's like you can look at candidates that 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.880 have gotten endorsed by major papers and hasn't made a difference. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.200 No, But Mark, but what But the thing for me, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.640 I totally agree with you. I know what you're saying though, like, 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.920 you know, but what it what it represents? 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.600 Yeah? Is there an intimidation factor behind it? You know? 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.560 And that that's the ultimate question, you know, And I 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.200 think what it represents is a big shift. You know, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.839 in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, it was the Trumpers 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.160 that were the silent majority or silent half the country. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.280 Now I think that's fliplocked. I think the Trumpers they've 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.080 been emboldened by Twitter. You know, Elon is out there 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.880 pushing them saying, hey, you know this is the spot. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.719 It's all Trump all the time, and people that's giving 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.760 them Twitter courage and you know that process, you know, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.240 I think that impacted what the Times is doing and 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.599 what the Post is doing. And I also think you know, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.400 if you look at just podcasts across the board, the 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.120 right wing ones tend to do better and generate more revenue. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.239 And I think that's that's part of it as well. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.359 You know, Republicans by sneakers too. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.320 And what is it? And why do you think that's 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.520 a case they're just more entertaining? Uh, it's what it's 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:41.680 the message, what is it? 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.839 I think Republicans SKW a little bit older, and I 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.520 think there's a lot of reinforcement when you know, and 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.320 also the branding of the quote unquote mainstream stream media. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.960 For a long time, it definitely leaned left, for sure, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.480 right and they would tell you that's still the case today. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.880 But with digital media, everything has grown so quickly that 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.040 the stronger players and with the bigger audiences, particularly online, 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.800 tend to lean right. And there's more money there and maybe, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.120 you know, you know, we want to think that it's 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.520 you know, Elon, you know, or whoever influencing the La 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.400 Times and whoever influencing bezos, But maybe it's just the dollars. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.000 Maybe it's just the free market saying, you know what, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.880 more of our customers spend money that are that lean right, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.719 and our content plays better when it leans right, I'm guessing, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.040 of course, but you got to look at all those 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.480 possible options, and when it. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.800 Comes to the podcast are you it's interesting just in 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.400 terms of where the audience skews, but it also begs 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.440 the question, there's sort of this bro culture were keep 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.720 talking about right now, I know, you know, and that's 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.400 been a big conversation around to this gender gap in 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.840 this election, which goes in both directions significantly. We tend 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.279 to only talk about the gender gap as it favors Trump, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.760 not necessarily the one that Kamal has pulled away with. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.240 But what do you do you even subscribe to this 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.560 quote unquote bro culture? 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.880 Does it even mean any team? Look, you know, Marshawn's 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.320 a little bit too old for this now, but you 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:00.359 know me. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.720 Give me some give me some dang. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.479 Yeah, some dude's coming up now. They don't know newspapers. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.520 My son's fifteen, my daughter's eighteen. They don't know newspapers. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.840 They don't look at that stuff at all. Right, They 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.960 don't watch the news, they don't turn on the TV 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.520 for news. They go to Instagram and TikTok and YouTube 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.920 and they scroll and they get what the algorithm gives 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.600 them and they also like get used to watching the 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.360 Theo Vonn's, the nel Boys. The part of my take 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.400 all these all these folks, and again it's self reinforcing. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.800 You're gonna say the shit that gets more people to 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.640 watch and listen. It's like Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan didn't 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.200 used to be right, you know, lean right, and it 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.480 paid off for him, you know, and you went with 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.520 it and can't You can't be mad at him. You 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.160 can't be mad at him for doing what's best for 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.320 his business. But that bro culture, you know, think about 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.080 what a hitch. The best way, you know, my little 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.679 parenting secret for my kids, they're fifteen, eighteen, and twenty 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.800 one now, so it still applies to my youngest. But 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.360 the best way to get to know what's in their 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.320 head is just to look at their scrolls on TikTok 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.400 and Instagram. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.360 That's how you know about search engine and that history. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.280 Huh yeah, you know, but you know because they're all 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.840 day long scrolling, right, And so I look over my 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.360 son's shoulder and like I'm seeing basketball, basketball, football, football 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:23.240 fantasy fantasy fans, hot girl, basketball basketball bas hot girl, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.400 you know, And that's Okay, I'm cool with those ratios, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.200 and I know those ratios are going to change. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.800 I know yours are a lot different than that, right Mark. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:37.920 No, I love my wife, but I'm not. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:40.240 That's crazy. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.760 We were just we were just talking about the algorithm 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 and how our playing. I said, you know, a couple 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.400 of my family members show me they they algorithms. And 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.800 it was just butt cheeks, that's all. It was butt 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.520 checks and. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.520 You know or not? 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:07.960 Right, am I lion? My lion? Oh shit, Doug, get 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.800 us out of this, brother, Get us out of this, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.000 Get me out of this. I can't afford this conversation, man. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:13.920 That's yeah. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.400 It's crazy, man, it is. It is crazy. And the 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.240 thing is them algorithms. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.760 They don't they don't they don't know no, they don't 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.840 know no ages, they don't know no gender, they don't 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.320 know none of that. They just they just feed it 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.360 to you. Yep. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.120 And that's I think when you talk about the bro 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.880 culture and the deficit with men, and then you add 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.720 to that like crypto, right, because if you're into crypto, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.280 you're you know, it's mostly young men. Like when we 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.040 were growing up, it was a big deal to get 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.560 a bank account, your first checking account, to write your 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.040 first check, to get your first check. Now you just 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.240 download robin hood or coinbase, you buy yourself some doche 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.679 cone coin, You go and Reddit and you talk about 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.400 you know, to the moon and you know bitcoin this 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.959 and theoryum that, and you know. And that's kids, particularly 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.960 kids of color that are eighteen to twenty five, because 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.160 that's their savings account. And you know that I think 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.120 also has hurt the Democrats sum But kam La figured 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.000 it out right, you started talking about it. She got 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.199 to it and said, you know what that's this is 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.400 their savings account, this is their net worth, and we're 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.200 going to support them. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.439 So interesting, jove me crazy. Biden was slow to that, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.360 and she finally picked up on that. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.880 Mark he didn't give it. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.840 It was interesting. It's not a knockout. I mean, I 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.520 love the guy, but it was interesting. It was a 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:25.720 stubborn thing. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.840 Knocked on him. It was a knock on him. You know, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.360 he just didn't get. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.400 Out of market. Out of market. We all say get that, Gavin, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.040 go ahead, gub no. By the way, Mark was one 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.280 of Cuban was one of the first to take bitcoin 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:39.880 of the damn you were the maps, right, I know you. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.240 Because I know you the money man. So should I be? 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.240 Should I be thinking? 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.320 Jesus own a bunch, right, It's not a bad thing 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.960 to own some bitcoin, a little bit of ethereum, you know, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.160 just to hold it there. It's like digital gold. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.280 What you're calling your broker? 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:01.920 What the hell? 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.120 You just know? I'm saying you don't, man, you don't 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.719 fucking pair us up. No goddamn game from the money man. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.280 And think that you be all right when you hear 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.400 the money man speak up, you listen, So hold on, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:16.520 say that one more time. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:21.360 Ethereum and it's just ethereum and bitcoin. That's what I 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.200 would stick to. And let me just tell you. They 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.360 can go down a lot. They can go. It's just 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.000 like regular gold. You know. Gold is kind of the 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.800 old school way to save money in a commodity and 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.559 bitcoin and the theorem or the new school way. But 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.880 the difference is it's easier when you do it all 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.800 in and app and you can track it all and 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.920 see what's going on. But you just got to put 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.679 it away, just by a little bit. Put it away, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:44.520 forget about it. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.480 Okay, hold on, French, hold on, fish look bad. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:50.319 He likes his money. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:56.760 Mark I mean, you know I took. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.199 By the way, Mark, he's got a lot to invest. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.960 This son of a bitch saved all his money. He 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.679 saved every damn penny. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.480 By the way, before you begin, Marshawn, this is funny. Hey, Mark, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.360 no bullshit. When I was Marshawn's asient back in the day, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.320 he had a million to one point two million dollars 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.040 in fines going into Super Bowl and Goodell was gonna 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.280 find him for not talking. He said, Hey man, I'm 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.800 not giving any fucking white boy my money. Fuck this, 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.280 I'm gonna talk and Mark. Tell them Mark, Marshawn, how 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.040 many finds you accumulated in your career. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.240 I think one point two million was like the warm up. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.280 I was show like the ship they find me for. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.240 When I first got to the NBA, like my first year, 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.240 I'm like, I want to get to know people on 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.640 the squad, get to know the staff and everything. So 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.679 you know the dudes that sit down next to the 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.200 bench and they pick up all they give the gear 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.559 and everything. So I'm saying, I'm gonna sit down there 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.160 and I'm just gonna talk to him during the game. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.080 While I'm watching the game, I get a call the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.959 next day and it's David Stern. Rest in peace, Dave. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.320 He's a good dude. He said, I gotta find you. Mark. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.400 I'm like, for what con deck unbecoming an owner, for 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.920 sitting on the floor next to the training staff. I'm like, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.560 that's crazy, that's crazy. So and I said, you, well, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.480 two things. One I'm gonna mash out the charity, which 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.080 I always did with my fines, and two, let me 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.360 find a better way to get fined. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:31.679 Fuck y'all, hold on because I got more of because 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.000 now you talk about the ownership, because I got I 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:39.600 got a little bit with but ownership too, because I 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.640 need some of that too, because you know the Seattle Cracking. Yeah, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.120 I mean I got you know, I mean I got 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.560 my foot in it though, so you know what I mean. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.640 You know, I mean got a little ownership of the 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.480 Seattle Cracking the hockey team. So I can't talk to 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:58.120 the to the to the staff on ice right, So 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.880 that that means I couldn't go down there and talk 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:01.800 to them, otherwise I would get a fine. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.040 Yeah, okay, what is this? 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:05.600 Why you're aware? 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.480 I never seen Marshawn with glasses. You can't prepare to 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.640 be a student today with that man, who. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.800 The fuck would pass this fucking opportunity on getting this game? 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.840 And see now we're here, now we're here. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.320 But you can't. You can't. Fucking you can't. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.360 Man, Come on now, Dah, you can't, batman, you can't 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.400 have it. You can't have the money man sitting in 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.960 front of you and not pick up some nuggets that 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.560 he's dropping for you, especially when I'm trying to get 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.200 into that you feel me on the next you know 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.800 what I mean, understanding how this ship really worked. Now, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.080 I know you made a joke about you know, hitting 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.040 my financial advisors, but already sent the text out this 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.040 big coin and now I need to find ways. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:52.200 Marshan Marshaan, do this download that called coinbase coinbase yeah, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.560 or and or robin Hood and just play with it. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.800 Just get a feel, give yourself like one thousand dollars 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.640 in there, five thousand dollars, and just play with it 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.440 before you do anything else, just so you can get 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:03.480 a feel for what's going on. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.160 All right, You ain't gonna lie first with because man, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.080 they came back to me probably like five five years ago, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.840 my boy see me Rice, and he like, man, you 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.800 gotta get on this on this big coin, and he 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.320 trying to explain to me, like how it works, and 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.160 I'm like, so it's not really money, like I can't 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.480 touch it, or is it like a real coin that 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:22.520 they gonna get like hot? 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.160 No, man, look, it's the new wave, you know what 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:25.440 I mean. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.160 This is what everybody gonna go to in the next 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.040 few years. It's gonna be you know, I mean that 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.080 paper money. You know what I mean because you say 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.760 about you know, owning a bank account, and we know, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.080 shoe box money, money under the mattress, you know, I 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.440 mean we didn't you know the bank account and how 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.520 that worked, you know, the savings and you know what 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.320 I mean. They taking a little bit out of this 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.680 and going to invest it over here and doing thing 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.360 was I don't know why why they taking my money? 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.320 I don't I can't understand that. And then so now 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.400 with this, I was, you know, I was really scared 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.640 of it. Like so it's just make believe no, no, no, no. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.520 It's digital, right, And so it's this thing called the blockchain, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.960 and it's a way to do different types of applications, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.640 and you know, it's just like all your real money 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.880 all you know, all your money in the bank, right, 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.720 It's not there's not somebody there holding like however much 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.280 you got in the bank, there's not somebody. There's not 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.960 a box at the bank with all your money. Right. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.720 They put it in, they loan it out, they put it, 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.680 get put it in different opportunities, and they track it 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.800 all digitally. And with this with crypto, it's you know 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.160 a little bit similar in that you can loan it out, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.320 you can use it for different applications, you can save it, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.840 and on a supply and demand basis for bigcoin and ethereum, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.440 if there's more demand than there is supply, then the 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.240 price goes up. If there's more supply than there is demand, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.880 the price goes down. It's just like gold, right, Yeah, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:45.520 it's just like. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:46.360 Ya, So I knew. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.200 So I knew it was serious when I was at 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.680 the UH at the casino and then I see you know, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.440 the ATM, and then they had next to it they 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:54.320 had a bigcoin. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.440 Htm yeah, the big. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:17:01.440 Coin danger danger Like oh okay, so hey, so if 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.240 y'all wasn't listening before, you know, I'm talking to the people, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.160 to my people, Hey. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:06.720 Y'all listen. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:12.159 Blockchain coin base Robin Hood yeah, I mean bitcoin and Eutherium. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.440 I feel like I need a disclosure usually your well Mark. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.760 I got to be honest, so you know, I work 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.959 for Casey Washerman. You're a good friend, and I run football. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.760 It's been an Asian for thirty years, and I got 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.560 to be honest with you, like I've always been a 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.520 massive fan of you and what you've done because you've 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.879 been cutting edge. And if you look at if you 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.440 go back to when you bought the Maths in two thousand, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.399 you know, it's interesting because you came in as a 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:37.080 young owner and immediately said, I got to get the team, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.600 the right facility, mental health, coach, playing all that, and 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.480 you're still you were way ahead of the game twenty 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.080 four years ago. And even today the relationships you had 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.080 with your players and you talking about post career about 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.400 financial literacy. Owners today, very few of them are doing that. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.359 And we're talking twenty four years later. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.840 Now. It's changed a lot too, because back in the day, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.200 like you know, even when Marshawn came into the league 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:09.600 of the NFL, there's mostly individual owners in the NFL, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.639 and they're opening up now for investment groups. In the NBA, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.360 there's more investment groups than there are individual owners. And 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.520 that's changed it, right because for me, like I was 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.879 the only guy, and like I could do whatever I 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.720 want to hang out, go to the clubs, chill, just 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.240 get to know them. It was fun. I'm not gonna lie. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:28.800 Check the algorithms. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.920 Yeah, get the algorithm work. But you know, it also 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.439 was about understanding what put us in the best position 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.720 to win. How do you build culture, how do you 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.359 build chemistry? What's going to put you know? One of 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.880 the things I did. So when I first came in, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.800 there was a head coach and there were three assistant 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.240 coaches and that was it. And I was like, damn, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.359 we spend more money on computer repairs and computer training 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.639 than we do on development for our players. So I 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.800 went out and I got five fifteen former Mavericks and 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.320 I'm like, come on in. Each of you gets to 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.480 signed a player and you're their workout coach, you're the 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.199 skills development coach. And that's the whole thing. Now you go, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.000 you know, if you go to a game, watch before 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.840 the game, if you get there early, how many coaches 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.520 there are on the court working with the players. That 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.040 all started back then, So they picked up on some stuff, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.719 but it's competitive. You know, every team's always looking for 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:19.280 the edge. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.240 But Mark, did you look at did you look at 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.359 like Eddie de Bartelow and what he did in Jerry 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.040 Buston And did you take anything from those guys because 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.679 there were the two owners prior to you that really 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.080 number one took care of the players and had the relationships. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.160 Yeah, I mean I love Jerry, but he was the best. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.960 Like when I first got there, he like took me 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.240 under his wing and he was like, fuck, there was 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.720 other owners. Like he told me a story about when 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.199 he gave Magic Johnson a twenty five year contract for 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.320 a million dollars a year after he got HIV, and 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.000 he told me other stories I can't repeat, but it 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.920 was just like, you know what, you be yourself. That's 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.520 what got you here. Is what works for you. Don't 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.920 change for us. Be yourself. And that's what I did. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.399 And literally I had one one meeting I was in 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.520 early on and there was a dude who owned the Wizards, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.960 I think, and I'd already been find a couple of 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.120 times and you know, getting a lot of media coverage, 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.760 and in the meeting, he goes, you need to just 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.040 shiit sit yourself down and shut the fuck up until 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.720 you do something. And it's like some old dude and 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.520 I like, I didn't even know his name yet and 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.120 he's given me shit and like didn't starting to chill. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.760 But yeah, there was just a bunch of old dudes 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.960 that didn't care. They didn't care about winning, which was 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.880 good for me because like when there were times when 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.440 they couldn't afford to keep the roster anymore, I would 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.760 just swoop in and do a trade and and you know, 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.600 take their best player, Dirk. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.040 So look, you know what's crazy about that is uh, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.639 you know, because I came from Buffalo, and you know, 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.639 Ralph Wilson, I believe, was one of the original owners, 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:53.280 and you know we really rarely had any uh contact 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.080 with ing, but you know, every now and dan he 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.720 would come. I remember I had a game and yeah, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.400 I mean he came in and was like, hey man, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.000 we're gonna try to do something to get you some help. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.800 And I'm just like, damn. Everybody was like, hold on, 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:05.440 was that the owner? 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:06.200 He just talked to me. 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.800 So when I get traded to uh Seattle, you know, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.679 Paul Allen rest in peace. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.399 That's my dog. 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.760 Yeah, he was a different guy. He's a different guy, 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.800 but he was a party gold. 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.160 So a lot of people was telling me, oh yeah, 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.040 Paul Allen and this and then the third and blah 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.680 blah blah blah blah blah, and I'm like. 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:28.480 Man, okay. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:34.239 So I had a Foundation dinner and he came, and 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.600 everybody like what the fuck, Like, how'd you get How 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.479 did you get Paul Alin to come to your fucking dam. 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.719 I'm like, shit, I don't know, but it came. He played, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.760 he played, played his guitar, and I sat next to him, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.880 and I'm just having conversation, like because in my head 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.960 I'm thinking, like everybody, oh, he's weird and this and 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:52.480 that and the third. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.440 So I'm like, man, like man, fuck that. I'm like, hey, dog, 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.640 what's hand? And man, how you doing? Like yeah, I'm good. 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.760 I'm like, man, everybody been telling me you weird and 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.720 you park and shit, and I'm like, well, shit, you 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.760 want to get a drink. You're like, shit, all right, 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:10.280 what we drinking? I'm like Patrinity, he said, Patrol. I'm like, 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.240 it's a half Look now, I'm excited. Man, It's a 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:13.960 half shot of Patrol. It's a half shot of he 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.000 and we don't be on and he like, okay, cool, 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.800 all right, So man, I took the shot with him, 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.520 like yeah, we politic the whole day for me at 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.880 the event, you know what I mean, got people then 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.120 and then this is when I'm like oh yeah, oh 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.879 he different. So he gave me his email like, hey, 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:33.960 you know, if you ever need some help or you 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.359 want to figure something out, yeah, don't hesitate to hit me. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.600 So I was trying to get a beast Mode store 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.280 in Seattle. So I just hit him up like, hey, 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.120 what's up, man, I'm looking for a building and blah 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.800 blah blah. He didn't respond to me. But that day 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.040 I got a call like, hey, man, Seawan, I'm so 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:55.000 and so Paul Ellen you know told me you reached out. 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.320 We heard you looking for a space. What you're looking for? 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.800 So I told him to specs on what I'm looking for. Okay, 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.400 when can you check it out? I'm in Oakland. I'm 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.359 like today, say okay, cool? 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.200 What time? I said, like around six? 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:08.200 All right? 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:08.520 Cool? 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.679 I flew from Oakland to Seattle. They took me to 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.320 like three four different buildings. I'm like, oh, I like 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.040 this one, okay, cool, it's done. I'm like, what you 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.600 mean is done? Like it's done. When Paul says something, we. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.800 Go and get it done. And I'm like, god damn. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.720 So within what maybe four. 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:30.600 Or five hours, I secured the building, secured the space 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.719 is right, it was right next to the stadium, and 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.240 I'm just like, oh, yeah, this this this guy. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.159 That's cool. This guy is this salary cap violation in 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:40.680 the NBA. 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.359 But that. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.080 You know, but no, I feel you that that's that's 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.719 who he was. Man. He had a heart of gold. 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.440 But that's the kind of owner that I like, I 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.600 see you as like when it comes to some real ship. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.960 Why are more NFL owners not like you in the NBA? 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.040 Is it just you think it's a level of players 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.680 in the team, the amount of players turn. 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:04.959 Over what you know. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.880 I'm a ball as life guy, you know, but half 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.840 half the most fun I have is the games and 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.640 the other half is like I get to go out 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.680 in the court before a game and get up shots 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.720 and play one on one or you know, get some 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.119 running and when you live it, like, if you're a 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.600 football guy at heart, you're gonna want to be out 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.800 there and talking to people. If it's just a business, 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.359 then you're not, you know, then you're just going to 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.720 treat it as a business. You know, if you've played 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.119 the game, but you know what it's like, like Marshawn, 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.880 you know what it's like now you watch a game 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.520 and your body's moving because you're looking and you're thinking, right, 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.800 what's going on? Right? You know, anybody who's played, I 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.760 don't care what level it is in basketball, when when 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.840 it's your team and you're watching the game and you're 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.880 you know, and you feel it the whole time, Yeah, exactly, 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:53.320 we And so that's the difference. Not some guys buy 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:57.320 it for the investment. Some people buy it because it's 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.520 the family business, or in it because of the family business. 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.480 And some people, you know, they bought the team for 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.040 the love of the game. And when you buy for 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.399 the love of the game, you'll just see it's a 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.280 whole different perspective market. 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.480 But I'm curious because there's a there's different trains of thoughts. 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.160 I mean, obviously, your success and what you've been able 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.200 to build and brand and and and and and initiate, 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.440 I mean so many ways, it's the culture you've initiated 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.680 and inspired, But there are a lot of others sort 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.320 of I can think of a few names. I won't 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.600 mention where there's such a dominant owner that you sometimes 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.920 wonder if that dominant owner weren't the one making every 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:34.600 damn decision, or wasn't ubiquitous step back, had a different 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.040 group come in, that the team would actually perform at 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:37.640 a different level. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.320 I've been to both. When we were winning, I was 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.960 a genius. When we were losing, I was a fucking idiot, 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.439 you know, And that's that's just the way it goes. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.680 And you know, it's it's a it's very Darwinian. Either 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.600 it's on the left. I mean, it's in the wind 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.040 column and you're going to the playoffs and you're getting somewhere, 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.080 or it's not. And if you're an owner like I was, 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.439 that was really involved. And part of the reason, Gavin 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.800 is it's a lot of fucking money. I don't care 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.520 who you are. You know, when you're making a decision 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.400 on a contract that's going to be one hundred million 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.440 or now one hundred and fifty or two hundred million, 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.920 you want to make sure that the process is right 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.360 and you're getting it right. And in the NFL it's 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:17.440 a hard cap, you know, and it's you. Everybody gives 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.320 themselves a little leeway to do buyouts, but if you 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.760 get it wrong, particularly at the quarterback position, doesn't matter 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.679 how smart you are. If you did everything right and 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.640 then you got it wrong, and sometimes it's just luck. 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.000 Luck is more important than ninety nine percent of anything 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.440 else that happens in the NFL. If you get matched 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.800 up with the conference that sucks, you know, and you 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.280 got your game against them, you're gonna look like a 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.439 hero in the NBA. You know. If if like the 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.480 MAVs and we've been alive for forty five years, forty 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.400 five drafts, not one time at the Mavericks ever got 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.360 the number one pick. Not one time have the Mavericks 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.720 ever moved up in the draft. Not I'm just talking 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.320 about move up like the Luk a year, we worked 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.960 really hard to have the third worst record, but we 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.440 ended up with the fifth pick after the lottery. 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.640 You're not supposed to say that out loud Mark said. 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:11.240 We were really committed. 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:14.119 The development season. It was a development season and that 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.960 was hard because they were needed a lot of development. 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.760 And we had the third worst record, ended up with 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.280 the fifth pick, and that caught us cost us the 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.879 draft pick. Then you look at San Antonio. Right, So 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.280 I bought the team in two thousand and ninety eight, 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:29.919 I forget, I'm not gonna get the years, right, but 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.080 not one year they they they tank and they get 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.280 David Robinson. Then David Robinson gets. 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.240 Hurt and they Jim Duncan. 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.320 Jim Duncan. Then this last year they get. 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.320 Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:48.240 I can't catch her break. 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.000 In twenty fourteen, you said you kind of said the 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.440 NFL in your mind had about a ten year run. 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.400 You were a concern and do you see I mean 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.680 to me as an NFL agent, you know people Number 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.040 one of the gambling has been big, right, But people 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.560 love the violence. They love the injuries, they love the hits, 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.440 they love every play means something. Was your opinion back then, 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.280 just from the standpoint of concussions and whatnot. 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.080 That was a little bit of it. That was a 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.920 little bit of it, and that's still kind of an issue. 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.480 But my point back then was that they were trying 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.160 to put it on too many nights of TV, and 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.119 so they went it went from Sunday night and Monday 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.520 night to Thursday night and then a Friday night game. 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.119 Sometimes and whenever it was Saturday games sometimes and I 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.000 thought it would be overpasturated. Obviously I was wrong. And 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.080 what I didn't account for as much as I should 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.600 have isn't so much gambling, even though that helps luck. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.080 But fucking fantasy sports. 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.280 Fantasy, right, that's it. 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.840 People like get pissed if you don't. They get pissed 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.080 at you if like, if the over under, you don't 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.760 do this, you don't do that, and you know they 0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.440 lose money. But fantasy sports, you know, they're thinking, I'm 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.320 gonna have to wear a fucking dress to school if 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.600 I lose this season, my god. Right, And that's what 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.840 drove the NFL, because realize it was only thirty years 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.400 ago that there was teams leaving in the middle of 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.680 the night. Yep. And then all of a sudden Yahoo 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.160 comes along and starts fantasy sports, you know, for the NFL, 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.480 and bam, it just blows up, and it's the only 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.560 sport that really works. Well. Basketball's got fantasy sports, but 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.560 there's too many games you have all week to work 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.880 on it. And the other thing about football that I 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.120 didn't account for, there's only what twelve minutes of actual 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:32.080 action in a football game, so it's a lot easier 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.360 to watch football. If you look at the ratings, it's 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.640 an inverse relationship between the amount of minutes played. The 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.600 games with that have the most minutes, like soccer have 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.800 the worst ratings because you got to watch the whole time. 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.360 Baseball has the next worst ratings because you got to 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.520 watch the whole time. Then basketball gets better because it's, 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.640 you know, forty eight minutes, and then football's got twelve minutes. 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.800 You can take a shit, you can you know, do 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.520 your homework, and you're not going to miss the play. 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.960 And it's just football is the easiest sports to watch. 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:14.560 It's really interesting. Didn't you make a play for Well, 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.040 you've made a play for hell, half the damn teams 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.200 and all these leagues. I mean, I see your name 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.600 as socially a couple, only a couple, Only a couple. 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:26.120 But when I first made money in Soul broadcast dot Com, 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:27.880 because I grew up in Pittsburgh, I took a look 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.680 at the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Penguins. I wasn't a hockey guy, 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.280 but they were. They were at thread of closing down 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.560 or moving and so that's why I looked at it. 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.800 But it didn't work out. Mary Lemieux ended up buying him. 0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.360 And then I looked at the Cubs in two thousand 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.760 and eight because it was the Cubs. Didn't happen in 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.080 twenty ten, you know the Cubs real quick. So I 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.720 was talking to Sam I forget his last name, real 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.400 estate guy, raspy voice, and I offered. I sat in 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.600 his office and I offered him eight hundred million dollars 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.440 for the Cubs. And he's going to get on his 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:03.640 knee say thank you very much, you're right now. No, 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.600 I'm like, okay, that's my offer. So that that's what 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.360 happened there. And then twenty ten, the Rangers went up 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.640 to bankruptcy and I was in the bidding for that 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:15.479 in a bankruptcy court and Major League Baseball. But Celik, 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.280 the the commissioner, just told people to tell me, there 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.240 ain't no fucking way we're letting you win this. And 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.240 then that's what happened there. 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.560 What was that about? Just that was some personal thing? 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:25.520 What wasn't They thought? 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:26.959 They thought I was going to be the next George 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.080 Steinbrenner in fuck up the no salary cap league. 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.000 Well, Mark, we need you to come in and buy 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:32.320 the age. 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:32.880 When they were here. 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.040 That's a fucking disasters, you know conversation. 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.880 Yeah, that's but I mean I've had enough. Baseball is 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.800 too many games. I would be dead because I'd get 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:40.440 so into it. 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.880 And Mark, let me ask you a question as you 0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:46.200 won't you've been stated that you don't like traditional politics. 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.080 But you know what, I know you've actually liked Gavin. 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.200 You like him as a person. 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.280 Yeah, but you're kind of stuck saying that now, Mark 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.880 Jesus Christ. 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.760 By the way, like you would not agree with you. 0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.840 So Mark's going to be completely honest. Thanks, asshole. 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.560 But Mark, the second part of that is, as you know, 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.480 there's been some rumors that the Oakland mayor might be recalled. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:07.880 And guess what we. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.960 Got, Marshan. He's a real politician. 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.600 Now more we might have a dream team as a 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.840 non traditional politician to run Oakland, which you're. 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.000 Telling to give give him the best advice you can, 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.120 stay away from politics and let him enjoy his life. 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.320 Okay. You can have two different attitudes, right, there's the 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.960 whole public service attitude and there's the ald what the fuck, 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.200 let's just be what it's like attitude. Right, what's the 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.280 word you lose? You learn, you win, You fuck them 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.920 all up, right, you change the game. 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.840 I like the latter. You've convinced me, Marshaan, you gotta 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:43.320 do it, bro. 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.200 Look get I told you man, I got a secret weapon. Man, Batman, 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.360 you got to come. 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:49.760 Through for me. 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.200 So I did. I did Dancing with the Stars, and 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:53.880 I'll tell you why. I did Dancing with such which 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.360 was the hardest scariest thing I've ever done in my life, 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.200 dancing live in front of twenty two million people. But 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:03.840 I did before, so that was cool. But and I 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.800 said to myself, I don't want to be ninety five 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.880 years old and look back on my in my last 0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.960 days and said what it could have should have Why 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.640 didn't I do it? So if it's something you think 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.120 in twenty thirty, forty fifty years you're gonna look back 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.480 and say, damn, I should have done that, you always 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:18.800 do it. 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.120 Don't dream of regretting. I love that. 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.920 Yeah, No, I'm in it, man, because you know. And 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.160 the thing is when you talk about traditional politics and 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.600 all of that type of shit, like not a traditional 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.040 type of motherfucker. 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:32.280 First and foreman. 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.040 Then at the end of the day is like I'm 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.360 looking at my city and what is really going through 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.440 And it's like, you know what I mean, the way 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.400 I see it is like, you know, the politicians they're 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.320 going there with with a mindset and you know, I'm 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.440 not talking about you specifically, gathered, but you know, the 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.080 motherfuckers beat bunk and they got a narrative and they 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.440 got you know what I mean, ultier motives that they 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.360 trying to get, you know what i mean, pushed and 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:58.360 I'm looking at. 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.440 Most of them just want power. It's all about power, man, 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.440 because if you, if you have don't have another skill, 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.480 like you busted your ass, right, people don't realize what's evolved. 0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.439 Everybody tells you they could have been that next Marshawn Lynch, right, 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.360 and you already come up, I'm going to be you. 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.200 But then when you ask them how much work they do, 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.840 it just don't add up, don't. It doesn't happen, right. 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.960 They math ain't math. And when it comes to. 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.040 It, politics is like the path of least resistance to 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.319 get power. You can go and accomplished, and you can 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.480 go and win an election. Just look at you know 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.560 who Kambla Harris is running against. 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.840 You know, and what is it? There's sort of an archetype. 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.839 I mean, well, I mean, let's talk. Why the hell 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.640 are you Mark Cuban. You have put yourself so goddamn 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.400 far out in this election. It's one thing you've dabbled 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.760 in this stuff, you go. I mean, you've not just dabbled. 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.960 You've been rumored to run for president yourself back in 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.239 twenty twenty. You had some fun with that as well. 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.879 I thought you were pretty damn serious about it, and 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.720 you supported candidates at all political parties, which is great. 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.279 You kind of I mean sort of associated with a 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.040 sort of a libertary framework. But man, you are next 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:06.759 level all in for Kamala and that has all the 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.400 benefits and all the damn risks attached to it. What 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.000 are you doing? What are you thinking? I love it, 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.480 but I appreciate it, But what are you thinking? 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.239 I mean, this country is important to me. I don't 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:18.920 you know, you guys don't know who the fuck I 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.080 am if it weren't for all the things this country 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.560 has given me and that I respect and I appreciate 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.759 and don't take for granted. And I never really got 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.840 into politics hard until Trump ran. And you know, initially 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.600 I actually supported him because I thought he had no 0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.040 chance to win, and I just thought, Okay, he's not 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.560 a politician. You know, he's going to bring a different 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.640 perspective and that's cool, but he just doesn't do the work. 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.320 He cares about himself. He doesn't, you know, understand policy 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:50.160 or try to understand policy. It's all on feel. He's 0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.359 just a salesperson. He's not trying to do the right thing. 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.719 And that scares me, you know. And we can get 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:57.759 into all the things that we all read about and 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.560 hear about and all that kind of stuff that's scary, 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.839 That is really really scary, and I just don't want 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.040 to see that for my kids. And honestly, I didn't. 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.880 I didn't think it would snowball like this, you know. 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.359 But all I'm really doing is going out and doing 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:16.160 interviews and doing town halls. It's not like you know, in. 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.480 A rally or two here and there. You did one 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:19.400 last week. 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.879 That was one of those life experiences right where you're 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.879 getting front, you know that stuff that was in front 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.840 of ten thousand people and give it a speech. 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.000 Man, you hit it, you nailed it. I texted you. 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.919 I thought it was great, bro, you crushed it. Man. 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.320 I was fine. I wrote it about ten minutes before 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:34.960 I got there in the car on the way, so 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:36.040 I'm looking on my phone. 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.640 Yeah, you had it on the phone. I'm like, this 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:38.760 is a modern version. 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.399 Geez Mark, let me ask you a question as an 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:42.600 as an ex NBA owner. 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:43.120 It's interesting. 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.160 The other day I called literally sixty five of my 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.560 clients across the NFL and I said, hey, I'm just curious. 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.600 I don't care who you voting for. I'm just curious 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.080 who do you think the majority of the locker room 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:57.120 was voting for. And universally every one of them said Trump. 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.600 And you're an NBA guy, Why do you think that is. 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.960 As far as the athletes in terms of their mindset. 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:06.680 Yeah, they think he's going to be better for money, 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.120 and that's why I'm out there. Tell him he's not 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:12.040 the tariffs he's trying to propose awful for athletes. Right, 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:17.399 they'll make but bigger picture, look, you know COMO will 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.040 probably increase their income tax two percent, and to some 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.080 people that's big deal, right, to other people, they'll put 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.839 the country first. But the bigger thing is is how 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.560 he's going to treat people. If you know, every single 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.560 one of those players does something in the community. Almost 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.200 all of them have foundations that get involved in the community. 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.080 And if they think that Donald Trump is going to 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.520 be supportive of people of color, They've got another thing coming. 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.120 It's just going to make their lives harder. But look, 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.600 athletes have never been known for doing the work. In 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.040 terms of most people, ninety nine percent of people just now, 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.480 like we're saying before, just get their information from memes. 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.799 And you know, Dan well, you know, players are on 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.359 Instagram all day every day looking for them. 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:04.520 That's good. 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.880 That's good to hear though from somebody who you know, 0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.480 I mean actually, yeah, I mean done the work. 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.279 Yeah, I mean, if you look at what's going on, 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.600 Like there's thirty three million companies in this in this country, 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.279 ninety nine percent of them are small businesses, their sub 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:23.560 chapter s or limited liability corporations through through pass through right, 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.600 and Kamala has said if you make four hundred thousand 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.120 dollars or less, your taxes are either going to stay 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.880 the same or go down, which means ninety nine percent 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:33.920 of the owners of those companies, their taxes are going 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.520 to stay the same or go down. So there's nothing 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.960 that Donald Trump is doing that's going to impact positively 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.560 any of those any of those companies. But on the 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.600 flip side, if you're a small business, and let's well, 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.680 let's just take a step back. Let's just say you're 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.279 planning your Christmas buys for Christmas now, right right around now, 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.080 you're thinking about what you're going to get your kids 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.239 a year from now. Donald Trump's in office, and he 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.400 puts sixty percent tariffs on China. Let me just tell you, 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.040 most of the shit you were going to buy your family, 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.520 friends and kids is from China, and that means all 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.720 those prices are going up. So you tell the athletes wretch, 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.040 You tell him you're like all the presents and shit 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:11.719 you're going to get him next year. If you win, 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.359 you're paying a whole lot more. But he gets worse, right, 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.840 because where do you buy all that shit from a 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.160 lot of it you buy from small businesses. You buy 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.760 from your jewelry dude, right, You buy the shoes at 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.839 that store that only the only one that carries your 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:29.080 size in Atlanta, whatever it is, right, and you don't 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.840 have as much money to spend because those tariffs jacked 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.680 up all those costs. So those small businesses are suffering 0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.080 now too, And a lot of them are going to 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.480 go out of business like they did last time. Trump 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.160 got into a tariff for so I'm out there telling 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.160 people this is what's going to happen if he does 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.960 his tariffs. Most people just don't understand that. But I've 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:46.520 had to live it. 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.480 And by the way, that's why people are listening to it. 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.640 We've been talking about this tear I must have. I've 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.480 been out on the road. I give that tariff speech. 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.640 No one gives a damn. You go out there and 0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.279 it's like, wait, it's like Marshawn pulls out the pen. 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.319 It's like Cuban's saying this there he is like, all 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:01.200 of a sudden. 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.160 You've got to relate it to people's pocketbook. When you 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.439 just say it's a tax, it's just like sales tax. 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.760 People don't think twice right. But when you say, okay, Christmas. 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.520 Christmas, I love it, and then you're the only guy 0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.960 saying that, only goddamn guy saying that. You're a spot 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:13.359 on man. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.120 Well, well, Mark, Mark, My question is, so is combling 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.600 them are they doing? Do they have the right message 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.160 in terms of dumbing it down and giving the bullet 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.239 points to what people need to hear, well. 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.319 That's what they got me going out there because Kama, Look, 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.719 Kamma just got out there thirteen weeks ago, and she 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.960 would think about this, you got to do that was 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.560 the president ran for president in twenty twenty, been campaigning 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.800 ever since. So that's nine straight years he's campaigning or president. 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.480 And in thirteen weeks this lady comes along that people 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.280 just know she's the vice president, didn't have high favorable ratings, 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.839 didn't have high visibility, and just up to the motherfucker right, 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.160 you got all of a sudden, you know, that's like 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.360 me running a race against Marshawn like and all of 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:57.960 a sudden, I'm catching up. It's like, what the hell 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.160 is going on? And so the published a lot. But 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.160 I'm gonna tell you, guys, the worst part of what 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.200 I see from Donald Trump big picture, right, and that's deportations. 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.880 He's talking about mass deportations. If you all know anybody 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.319 who's got a relative that isn't all doesn't have all 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.280 their documentation down, like you might have somebody whose grandmother 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.160 came over thirty years ago or grandpap came over thirty 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.759 years ago, and they got three American kids and four 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:29.520 American grandkids. Don't be surprised if someone comes knocking on 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.359 their door. Don't be surprised if someone shows up at 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.200 your office and goes, okay, I want to know. You know, 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.560 there's this thing called I nine which determines their immigration 0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.560 status and everything their worst status. I want your I 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.880 nine list of every single employee so I can go 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.080 knock on their door at their house to find out 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.359 there's anybody undocumented there. And don't be surprised if all 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.479 of a sudden, like the way Trump is talking about 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.280 using this American I forget the AA of seventeen ninety eight. 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:59.960 Was yeah, I mean, I mean this which we use 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.480 to in turn the Japanese, but it's worse like so 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.239 literally with this this law from seventeen ninety eight, if 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.440 he says that we're at war, just like that's how 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.280 we got the tariffs, and he said we were at 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.280 war with China, economic war. 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.439 With China, and so if he does something like that, 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.839 it's not just about deporting people who are here illegally 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.200 or undocumented. He can take somebody who's here legally. So 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.480 if he says we've got something going on with Venezuela, 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:29.480 you're here legally, you've got residency, Siah, he's got that option. 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.200 Imagine what happens, Maean in Oakland if somebody's knocking on 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.640 doors going through I don't know Oakland at all, but 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.520 going through a part of part of town where there's 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.880 a community where there are a lot of undocumented people. 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.239 They may be grandparents, they may be workers, whatever it 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.040 is that have been here for decades, and people start 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.000 pulling people out of the house. I mean, do you 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:50.640 how do you think people are going to respond. 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.120 I know how they're going to respond. 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:53.520 That's right, Oakland. 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:54.640 It's already violent. 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.840 It'll get it'll get even even more violentating you know 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.200 how people feel about. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:00.919 They you know what I mean? 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.320 They their family, right, you can't come. 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:05.960 Their grandparents, like, that's one thing. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:10.760 You know, cousins, their nephews, right. We all know somebody 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.640 who's got somebody undocumented in their family. We know somebody 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:14.640 who's undocumented. 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.719 And so Mark, you think you think this starts like 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.000 day twenty if he gets in like right away, I don't. 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.279 I don't think he can start doing that immediately. But 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.640 he's going to set it up. He's talking about it 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.440 every day. He's talking about it single Day. 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.440 And Mark just I mean, as Mark reminds everybody and 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.319 from Marshawn and Doug and everyone listening to tariffs, you 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.279 don't need Congress. Now President of the United States has 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.759 the unilater ability to impose these tarrorsts sixty percent on 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.719 all imported goods from China up to twenty percent, and 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.759 about three point one trillion dollars of imported goods from 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.560 the rest of the world. We're not even talking about 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:49.000 retaliatory terraffs. 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.960 So let me tell you about retaliatory tariffs. Let's just 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.839 say you want start a company that exports all all 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.640 the merch that you have. Right, do you guys sell 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.240 merchandise anywhere outside the country be smoke, Yeah, my beast. 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.200 Mode apparel, Like if you get yeah, I mean somebody 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.480 buy from from overseas or some year. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.239 Yeah, I mean they don't make it, so you can't 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.120 afford it. The stuff that you where do you make 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.239 your stuff? The beast Bode merchandise, where do you make it? 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.600 We make some over in China. 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.120 Yeah. Now, all of a sudden that beast Boad stuff 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.960 went up from China went up sixty percent, and from 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.600 Philippines went up twenty percent. What's that doing to your business? 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.680 Yeah, that hurt. That hurt a lot. 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.600 And that's, by the way, Marshall, that's literally what he's proposing. 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:37.000 That's his closing argument in this campaign. And he's delusional 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.440 about it. Mark's making this point. He literally doesn't understand. 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.880 He's stuck on stupid back in the nineteen eighties mindset. 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.600 Yeah, and he tried it before and what ended up 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.120 happening is China kicked his ass. So he said, China, 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:51.680 we're going to tear if you and all this stuff 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.000 because I want people to make this stuff here. Let's 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.880 just walk through this, right. If somebody could make something 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.600 like just say, like your merchandise, if they can make 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.879 it here at an affordable price, they'd already be doing it. 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.879 The reason they don't make it here, like I would 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.640 start that business if I could do it and take 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.640 that business back. And I have a couple of businesses 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.359 we you know, set up robotics manufacturing and brought manufacturing back. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.480 But if they can make it here, they would have 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.799 done it already. The reason they don't do it is 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:23.040 Americans won't pay more for made in America products. We 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:27.200 just won't. If everybody paid twenty percent more for everything. 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.120 Then you know, beast Mode products could just make it here. 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.399 And by the way, here's in a perfect proof point 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.640 of that Mark is the Trump Bible is made in China, 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.239 in damn China. Can't make the shut up? 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:41.680 Is his shoes made out there too? 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.759 His ties are made there is God. We don't even 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.879 bring up the sneakers bro or the Swiss watch that's 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.279 made down at some local damn shopping mall. 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.920 Yeah, I saw that. You know, you know why somebody 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.400 you know why he sells all that shit because he 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:55.879 has to. 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.920 Money that's not for the campaign. That's part. He's got 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.799 his own crypto thing too. Make Sean Marshaun doesn't write 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:17.399 that one down. Hey, Mark, let me ask you a question. 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.239 I mean, I know, and back in the day you 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:20.880 were you were friends with them and all that and 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.440 going through all this stuff. Now does he call you 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.400 offline and say, hey, Mark, come on, man, like what 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:27.920 have you? You don't talk to me any more like that? 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:29.960 And then I talked to him, and since he invited 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:31.960 me to the White House at the end of his term, 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:32.719 I haven't talked to him. 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.040 I'm saying with me, man, about the same time, so 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.600 he did his truth. 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.000 Social thing about me, and he said, oh, I'm a bully. 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:40.840 I stuck this and that. 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.359 Yeah, you suck as a golfer, bro, what's up with that? 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.799 Come on, Cuban, I told so, I'm going to tell 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.200 you guys. The truth of what I told everybody else 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.080 is I could I'll drive him anytime, right, I take 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.960 you that. The reality is I am golf since nineteen 0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.400 eighty nine. So when he says he's seen me golf, 0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.840 it's so full of shit, right of my one of 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.719 my customers. And I was one of these dudes that 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.600 like I hadn't practiced, and I got so mad. I 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.600 was ready to throw clubs in front of one of 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.840 my customers. And I was like, there's no chance I 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.520 can't do this. I'll kill my company. And so yeah, 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:16.160 so he talks about my golf clubhead speed and how unethleft. 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.760 I am like he's the beast right. Hey? 0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:24.319 You know Mark, just you know is we're sure I'm 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.440 worried about not getting all this stuff and we could 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:29.000 talk to you forever, man. But I loved your mindset 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.879 of just about you know, putting everything out on the line, 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.160 and you know, you get one chance at life you got. 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.839 I mean his Doug loves to say, you have only 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.239 so many summers left, and having that mindset just you're 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.200 just constantly going, going, going, going. One of the things 0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:45.640 that I really appreciate, Admyer. You've also gone into one 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.560 of the most difficult, goddamn businesses in the world, one 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.080 of the most opaque businesses in the world, and that's 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:55.040 the healthcare and drug space, with this cost plush drug 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:56.920 dot com business, which I know you and I have 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.600 had a few exchanges about how the hell is that going? 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.080 And tell us a little bit about that. 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.799 Man. It's called costplus Drugs dot Com. And you talked 0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:08.000 about the drug industry being opaque before us. You know, 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.560 you get a prescription, the doctor just says what pharmacy 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.680 do you use? And you really don't know what it's 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:17.040 going to cost. If you're a self insured employer, you 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.479 have no idea what your medications cost to this day. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.600 So what we did, we said, you go to costplus 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.680 Drugs Drugs dot Com and Marshan pay attention to this one, 0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:28.040 and you put in this drug called Toadila phil Todd 0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.880 Dila Phil right, which is generic cialis I'm just saying, 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.239 but if you put that in right and and up 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.040 it comes, we show you your cost. So we show 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.120 your cost of what it is, and we show you 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.239 our markup which is fifteen percent, and then we show 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.600 you our shipping and handling on our pharmacy fee which 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.719 is ten bucks, or you can pick up a local pharmacy. 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.640 By doing that, we've cut the cost of medications for people, 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.360 in some cases thousands of dollars per month. Like I 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.960 had one friend he had to drug DROXI doopa, which 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:57.879 I still don't know what it does. He was looking 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.400 at having to pay ten thousand dollars every three months. 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:04.319 I said, can carry it. We carried it sixty four 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.520 dollars a month. And now it's even cheaper than that. 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.799 And so we're just blowing up. I mean, if people 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.799 are just going in there, and not only are our 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.040 patients checking it out and saving a lot of money, 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.279 but now there's like research companies because we publish our 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.919 price lists that are going out and saying, Okay, if 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.120 the federal government or even the state of California had 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:26.000 bought all their medications through costplus Drugs dot Com, then 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.160 you would have say, you know, medicare would have saved 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.719 three point six billion for these nine drugs, six point 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.560 three billion a year for these eleven. It's it's insane. 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.440 And so just that transparency. And I'll tie this back 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.719 to kalmblom So when I talked to her team and 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:45.840 we start talking about ways to cut costs of living 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.799 for families and households, we talk specifically about this that 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.080 if you start to take on and Gavin you know 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:54.200 about the stuff, If you start to take on the 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.839 pharmacy benefit managers, the pharmacy middleman who set the prices 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.960 of medications, you're going to to be able to have 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.440 an impact. And if you introduce on top of that 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:07.759 transparency like cost plus is done, then you're gonna cut 0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.799 cost immediately. And you know, with what she's proposing, I 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.080 truly believe that you can cut costs twenty thirty forty 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.719 percent for medications for people's households. And that's a big 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.120 upset against inflation. And it means, you know, for lots 0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.040 of families, they're spending lots less. And even if you 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.799 have good insurance, if your if your copay or you're 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:30.399 deductible is high, this would still that approach would still 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.319 save them a lot of money, which would turn things 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.880 around in terms of how to pocket costs for families. 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:37.919 And what's the name of that company again? 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.800 Ax plus Drugs dot com? And just put in generic Viagra. 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.239 What oh, all of a sudden, these two guys looked up. 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.080 Because tell you, this is what I tell all my friends, right, 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.560 I'm like, it costs you for a for a big 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.600 bag of M and ms, it costs you about ten 0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.359 bucks and you can put them in a bowl next 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.560 to your bed where ever. You can get ninety generic 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:06.600 Silist or generic Biographer nine dollars and ninety cents plus 0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:07.920 shipping and handling. 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.399 You know, and go beat the breaks off some ship. 0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.359 That's exactly what I was thinking. 0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:23.360 Beating ship down. Hear me jumping off the ceiling light. 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:30.280 Ship and mark to be young and single, Mark to bees. 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.640 That's not the next mayor of Oakland, Californ. 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:40.719 There you are, Jesus, really, mister good is that doing 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.960 to represent Oakland? Thank you, Jesus. 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.640 Remain to the birth rate in this country. 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.840 Right hey man? And that and that brings a stress 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:54.600 level down, man down. And you know when you got 0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.600 more happy people, you got more happy times. 0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.680 Yes, all go mershawn. 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.160 I'm here for you. I'm just trying to do my part. 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:05.919 And Mark, you have a question. 0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.400 Going back way back when, Mark, I was curious because 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.960 when you dropped out of high school your senior year 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:15.920 to go to college, well, your parents behind that, your 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.239 friends like, what the fuck is this guy doing? I mean, 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:19.960 that was the coolest thing in the world, the hustle 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.279 and grind you had back then. Dude, I applaud big time, 0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.120 man because I've been the same way. And how was 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:27.719 their reaction back then when they did that. 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.640 I didn't really tell them. And so I took classes 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.960 at night at the University of Pittsburgh my junior year 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.200 and I did well, right, And yeah, I was sixteen. 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.480 I didn't get a's. I got b's, which is first 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.040 sixteen year old in college. Was cool, but so I 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.920 wasn't one of those super you know, geniuses that just 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.319 taste everything. But then, so I was already in the 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.840 University of Pittsburgh. I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.799 go to college and literally because I'm going to have 0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:55.799 more fun in college than I was in high school 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.400 because you know, I'm sixteen a little bit now. But 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.960 I waited more than I do now when I was 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.880 like a sophomore in junior in high school, and I 0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:07.320 was five inches shorter, and so I kind of glowed 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.239 up afterwards, and I was starting to, you know, by 0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.319 the time my senior year came along, and I wanted 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.960 to take take advantage of that mark. 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.200 But going back to the early days of maths, I mean, 0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:19.120 you were you were single for how many years before. 0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:20.520 You you're going here? 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:21.800 Three? 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.240 Three years only he owned hold On Gavin, he owns 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:27.240 just freaking team. 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.719 Okay, No, that's why I've said, Thank god it was 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.600 only three and Mark, Mark, God bless you man. We 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.080 talked about being on borrow time. 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.440 I mean, that must have been some of the funnest 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.839 years of life, owning the fucking. 0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:43.800 Developing a long term relationship. No, give some more meaning 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:44.480 and purpose. 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.799 Let's take a couple of years before that. Okay, let's 0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:50.479 go after I sold my first company. It was company 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.600 called micro Solutions, and I got a few million bucks 0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.359 out of it. So remember the old school steakhouses that 0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:57.919 like in the movie Casino, where they had these phone 0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:59.920 jacks and you can get a phone and you can 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.560 plug it in and call somebody. Oh yeah, to one 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.560 of these old school steakhouses. I was just fuck up. 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.680 I mean, I would want another level of stuttering and 0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:11.320 stumbling and all that. And they're like, what do you 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:12.920 want to get? And I'm not really into cars. I 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:14.879 already had a house, and I was like, I want 0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.000 to get a lifetime pass and American Airlines I want 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.080 to see if they have them. So I ask for 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:23.000 the phone, I plug it in. I'm like, hello, American Airlines, 0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:26.160 do you guys have lifetime passes? Sure, let me connect 0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:28.399 you to the air pass department. So hungover and all, 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.600 they send me stuff the next day FedEx, and I'm 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.359 looking at it and it's like one hundred and twenty 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.480 five thousand dollars for me and somebody else to fly 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:37.840 wherever we wanted on American airlines for the rest of 0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.759 my life. Holy shit, that's when I had fun. 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.120 Oh you can do them, yeah, of course. The son 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.279 of a bitch a few years later buys a g 0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:50.640 something online for forty goddamn million bucks, So you never 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:51.879 even use the damn thing. 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.160 You can buy lifetime pass. 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.120 Not anymore, not anymore? 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:58.400 What are you grandfathered in? 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:02.239 No? So I actually I gave it to one of 0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.440 my friends. After my dad. So you're not supposed to 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:05.800 be able to give it away, but I give it 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.279 to my dad he passed, and then I gave it 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:09.960 to one of my friends who doesn't fly that much 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:10.680 but uses it. 0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.320 Well if they don't, Yeah, I mean't find it handy anymore. 0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:15.560 You're next. 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.080 I mean, you know I might be able to put 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:18.759 that to use. 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:22.880 I tell you, by John, I used to spend some 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.560 time living in Manhattan Beach in LA and I would 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:27.200 just go on to the clubs. I'd be like, I 0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.920 want to go to Vegas. What come on, let's just 0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:31.799 go right now. 0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.080 I want to go by the way Mark. Manhattan Beach 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.040 is my happy place. I'm down there every July. My 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:40.080 daughter plays beach volleyball. I love Manhattan Beach. That was 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:41.640 your stomping ground Bay Jesus. 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:43.440 Yeah, I still got a spot there. Show Backs is 0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:44.160 my spot. 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:49.120 Okay, okay, yeah, Well then it begs this question, what spot? 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.680 Come on, Cuban, tell the truth. Is it Treasury or SEC? 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:53.600 What the hell? 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:58.560 No? Nothing, I don't want I was just trolling the beach, 0:55:58.760 --> 0:55:59.200 were joking. 0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.320 You were having just because of all the for obvious reasons, 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.600 having fun on the SEC Treasury is legit though I'm 0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:05.880 just no. 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:08.319 LETJB. Diamond get that. I mean to be fun to 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:09.839 have your name on the money, that would be cool 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:13.480 as shit. But yeah, I like Cosplos Drugs dot Com. 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:15.360 I think I can have more impact on the outside 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.759 than on the inside. And I just I cannot see 0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:21.280 putting on a suit every day and go to work. Literally, 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.359 when I after I sold my first company, I got 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.439 rid of my watches that I'd never wear a watch 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:27.680 again because that means I have to be on somebody 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.840 else's time. And until I got an eye watch for workouts, 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:34.759 didn't wear a watch for years decades. And I don't 0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:36.520 want to go back to having to work on somebody 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.520 else's clock. I want to be a life. 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.520 I admire your clarity on that, and I've heard you 0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:44.400 answer similarly, so I appreciate your consistency, but also just 0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:49.560 reinforces how how meaningful your support of Kamala is at 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.400 this critical time. No bullshit. I'm just you know, I'm curious, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:54.840 do you really I mean, if Trump actually pulls us 0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:56.799 I have a lot of friends who are like, come on, man, 0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.520 we survived the first four years. You said the same 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.640 thing he said the sky was gonna come in. You 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.279 overstated everything. We were fine up until COVID things were 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.799 pretty good. Do you, I mean, you really feel this 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.440 is as existential as some have made it out. 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.840 Like Tony Soprano when he was a baby gangster and 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:19.480 first got control of the family, he wasn't all that powerful. 0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.040 But when you're in and you already know the ropes, 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.800 who knows. Look, I'm not gonna say it's one hundred 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.400 percent he's going to be all that, but it's certainly 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:30.760 greater than zero percent. And that greater than zero percent 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.600 is enough for me just to say, it's just I 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:34.600 don't want to take that risk. 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:39.000 It's just there's no So how does that the situation? Right? 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.760 So you had a pandemic and Dennis like, oh, yeah, 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.560 well Trump gave us all this money base and then 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.800 you know when they finally comes out like oh no, 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:52.919 that wasn't a Trump thing, like a yeah, so it 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:57.280 is this something whereas like there's money put aside for 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.560 when you have a pandemic or something. 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.640 That's now there's no money put this guy for anything. 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:04.200 Now we're we're in debt. 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:04.360 Man. 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:07.720 It's just it's no different than your house, right, you know, 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:09.479 you know people that are in debt and no matter 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.640 how hard they work, they keep on falling further. For 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:13.600 it's like using a credit card. Right, If you use 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.760 a credit card and it's that twenty nine percent interesting, 0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:18.360 you don't pay in thirty days, it's just like it's 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.000 going to add up fast. And that's what's happening to, 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.600 you know, with us. So the question becomes, who's going 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.200 to cut the deficit and how are you going to 0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:27.960 do it? And that's a real question. Like I sat 0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.280 down and did this interview with Kamala and you know, 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.240 I asked her how do we cut the deficit? And 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.040 there's like she was like, look, and she did this 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.320 as ag. She's like, you got to look at programs 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:38.440 to see what's efficient and what's working and what's not 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.040 and some things you're going to have to cut. Others, 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.600 you know, you have to look big picture that you 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:45.000 don't want to cut them, but you can make them 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:48.080 more efficient. You can use technology, you can use new tools, 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.320 you can you know, she told this story at one speech, 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.760 But it only took one year to build the Empire 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:58.240 State building one year, and it takes longer than that 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.880 just to think about getting permits these day, and so 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.520 she's talked about reducing that. And if you start doing 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.640 those things and growing, then you can deal with the deficit. 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.920 But if you're Trump and you've got all these tariffs 0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.880 and you crush the economy, you can't grow your way 0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:11.280 out of it. 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:14.800 I love it, and speaking the way out, You're out 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:17.200 of Shark Tank. One more season, Huh. 0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.760 That's it. I'm done filming. This is my fifteenth season. 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:25.040 That was enough. We shoot in September and June. In 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.640 September in Culver City, it's sony, but June is when 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.520 my kids would always get out of school. In September 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.200 is when they go back, and I was always missing 0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:34.560 the shit. And I was like, you know, when they 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.760 were little, I can make them work around my schedule 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.520 and do what I want them to do. Now that 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.000 they're teenagers in twenty one, they don't give a shit 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.600 about me. Right, I got to work to their schedule, 0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:44.720 and so I don't want to miss that. 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:46.960 And was that a big honestly, was that a big 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.320 part of why you sold the majority stake in the 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:50.320 mass so much? 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.960 A little bit, right, because like we were just talking 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.439 about all the shit owners get and like, if you're 0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.640 doing well, you're a hero. And if not, everybody say, 0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.360 I don't want my kids to be in that position, 1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:02.720 at least the way things are right now. And you know, 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:05.960 it's not that they would take over tomorrow, but I've 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.600 seen what happen where it just destroys the kids of owners. 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:11.840 You know that that come in and it's not easy. 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.840 And so that's part one, and part two is just 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:19.360 the nature of the economics of the game. Like when 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:21.960 it was media and tech, I was the guy, right, 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:23.800 you couldn't get anything by me. I knew what was 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:25.800 going on. I would do shit in the league wild 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.320 say don't do it, I do it. Then they start 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:31.320 doing it, and that I had an advantage. Now the 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:35.800 whole thing is real estate, real estate, and see, you know, 1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:37.800 and that's just not my thing. And I don't want 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:39.320 to be in a position where I'm putting up two 1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:42.960 billion dollars to get an education on real estate and gaming, 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:46.040 you know. And so so that was the other reason 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:46.439 I sold. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:49.960 So, Mark, would you would you get back in the 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:51.040 Entourage series again? 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:51.320 Mark? 1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:52.000 If it came back. 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:55.920 Oh yeah, Actually, Doug Ellen put together a little something, 1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:57.960 so we'll see if it catches on that I went 1:00:58.040 --> 1:00:59.960 back to. That was so much fun. And my boy 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:02.840 Russ Wilson, right, he's on the Steelers. Now we did 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:03.880 the truck. 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:07.360 We know, Russ. Someone did hand marshawn the ball off 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:09.880 Mark in the shop. Jesus, we really we got to 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:14.720 go back to that. That was the guy upstairs conspiracy 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:16.920 because you're living, Marshan is not just bring. 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:22.120 Live, let me live. Let me tell you this fresh 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.160 you should have You should have pulled me by the 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:25.920 you know, I mean by the collar, like, hey, I 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:29.080 understand this football thing is is all right, but you 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.160 should have pulled me, told me to go get a 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.400 jump shot or something. Because when you said that one 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:34.960 hundred and fifty. 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:41.600 Two, honey, that ship sound a little that sounds a 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:43.040 little different. 1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:45.160 It's real money, that's for sure. 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:47.520 Yeah. That sounds like I'll be able to do something 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:48.320 for my family. 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.400 Yeah, you could do something. You know, there's still time. 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:52.520 They're still tired. 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:55.600 Oh but Mark, I gotta tell you, man, I got it, 1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:58.200 and honestly, I I what you've done. I mean, look, 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:00.800 everybody in Collweg says want to start a bar. 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:01.360 You did it. 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:05.040 You bought an NFL. You bought an NBA team. You've 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:06.720 got outspoken to what you believe in. 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:08.760 I mean, what you've done, how you live your life, 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:12.320 taking on big pharma. Brother, that's next level. You don't 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:15.800 even you guys don't appreciate what Mark's doing in that space. 1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:18.760 Bro, I do, Gavin and Mark. When my dad died 1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:20.960 when I was sixteen, I said, I'm on borrowed time. 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.600 And you live that way, man, and I appreciate how 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:27.760 you've lived. You've done it the right way. You've been outspoken. Uh, 1:02:28.040 --> 1:02:30.440 it's really cool to see how you've lived and as 1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:33.040 a father and a business guy and all that has 1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:34.240 been very very impressive. Man. 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:37.000 I gotta be honest with you, very very When I die, I. 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:37.840 Want to come back as me. 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:46.080 That's so good. Damn, Mike Drop, that's good. Legit, legit, 1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.160 Jesus Christ. I'm jealous. 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:51.920 So Mark, anytime you want to get your your plane 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:53.160 or the American. 1:02:52.800 --> 1:02:56.920 Airlines saying you want to road friends, we'll take it. 1:02:57.240 --> 1:03:00.240 We're all in Mark, We're all in elevation ceremony. When 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:02.360 Marshawn wins Oakland, it's. 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:08.120 All talking about Harris. I like that keeps sanity for 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:11.120 four more years in this country. Thank you brother. Great 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:12.360 to have you here, man, thanks for. 1:03:12.360 --> 1:03:13.680 Having me on. I really had fun. 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:13.880 Man. 1:03:13.880 --> 1:03:16.760 I appreciate you, and I'm going to check these out immediately. 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:18.960 I'm going to check them out immediately. 1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:20.440 You know how to get hold of me. 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:21.479 Thanks. 1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:23.760 Thanks, Mark, I appreciate it. I appreciate you brother. 1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:24.640 I'll take care