1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: You can't have the money man sitting in front of 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: you and not pick up some nuggets that he's dropping 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: for you. 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Man, what's hand him? 5 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 3: Man? 6 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: You got Marshan, Besma Lynch. 7 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 4: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin knew Something. You're listening to politickets. 8 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: You to be you known to be? 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: Mark Cuban, How you doing, Buddy good Man? 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: How are you doing? 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Jesus Christ. Where the hell haven't you been? Cuban? 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 4: You've been on every I turned on the TV today. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 4: It was like Mark Cuban coming up next. Cuban said this, Well, 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: panel comes back in five minutes. What the hell was 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: wrong with? Cuban says, so and so on Fox? 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Playoffs? It's the playoffs, man, Jesus Christ. In practice, we're 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: talking playoffs. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: Man, oh man, there's nothing you went the hell you're 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: gonna be like on the Cartoon Network next week or something? 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: You know? I got that coming up next, Jesus. 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 5: And Mark only know was Marshawn wanted you was his 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: own and when he played Mark, but he couldn't shoot threes. 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but we needed somebody in the pain. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody. 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dog and you feel me, big dog and 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: sheep what you got? 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: But you you got? You got play over there now, man. 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was tough. It was good last night. 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 4: What the hell was that what he had? I don't 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: like this as a warrior guy, I don't want that 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: much left in the tank. It kind of pissed me off. 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 4: Twenty two points. 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: No, no, Gavin, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't tell me. 34 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: I know, I know. I ain't hating on Clay, just 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: the opposite. I just hated him leaving. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: Get the hage balls out your body and my boy 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: was out there pulling like a motherfucker, walked from everywhere. 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: Didn't get a chance to watch the game, but he 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: made his first but then his next one just like 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: missed everything, and everybody's like you just. 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: Hear the and then it's just bam bam bad. 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Then you knew what he had, man, it. 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: Was just what he had like six six threes or something. 44 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: Right the hell was that bounding he had? 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: Like he had hustle, re making passive. 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy. He's a good dude. Man, he's 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: a really good guy. I'm happy for him. 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: And Mark. 49 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 5: Let me let me start by saying that I just 50 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: heard you on the All In podcast, And let me 51 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 5: tell you something, we are much funner hosting. 52 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: Those guys are. No, we don't, we don't. We don't 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: mess with fellow podcasters. Bro, those guys are an exception. 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: I'm willing to accept that one. 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: Though, Mark, as you, we are the state school kids. 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 5: We're the hustles like you were. I sell the shoes 57 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: at twelve. 58 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: We're not. 59 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: We're not the Ivy League guys like those guys are. 60 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: So it could be a funner podcast for you. 61 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready. 62 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I heard you was just with my boys 63 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: with an all the smoke too, with a. 64 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah I know then and Matt Forever, Man, those 65 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: guys are cool. 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah they are man, they yeah, they actually I mean, 67 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, just you know, I mean com a word. 68 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: So you know when they had they run out there 69 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: in Oakland for sure though, and then you. 70 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: Know Matt, Yeah, well, I say I had to give 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: Jack a lot of shit because he was on that 72 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: team that we were sixty seven, the Warriors beat us, 73 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: that we believe team, and that was just like there 74 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: was no fun. 75 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, they both came. They both came 76 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: through Oak and so man, you know, I was a 77 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: youngster to looking up and they they attitudes was something 78 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: that just you feel me though, I connected with like, 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, bigger than basketball. 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: And you might catch them. 81 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, I probably shouldn't be saying, but you know, 82 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: you could catch them out at the at the clubs 83 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and that, and. 84 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: Really doctor hears that. 85 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: You might catch them and Mangoes and Jeffrey's or something. 86 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, motherfucker, and they're looking at like, little young 87 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: ass boy, what the hell your young ass doing it? 88 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: Here? 89 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: Shit saying now you're doing big. 90 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: Dump because I can. Let's go because I can. 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Govin, you got to jump right in, Gavin, you 92 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: got some stuff from Mark now I know it. 93 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: But no what I'm crawling out of my skin this 94 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: week with and I'm sorry that just a little bit 95 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: of politics. We can get on all this other good stuff. 96 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: I want to talk about it. 97 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: But just a little bit, man, I'm serious about this. 98 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: When the La Times decided not to endorse and then 99 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: the Washington Post doubled down on that, and it just 100 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: opened up a lot. I mean, you can't help but 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: just wonder what the hell that's all about? Really, what's 102 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: that about. 103 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's two things there right. One is 104 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: does it really matter? Okay, because in this day and age, 105 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: they're not the gatekeepers anymore, you know ten years ago, 106 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: maybe five years ago even a little bit. But now, 107 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: I mean it's like you can look at candidates that 108 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: have gotten endorsed by major papers and hasn't made a difference. 109 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: No, But Mark, but what But the thing for me, 110 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. I know what you're saying though, like, 111 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: you know, but what it what it represents? 112 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is there an intimidation factor behind it? You know? 113 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: And that that's the ultimate question, you know, And I 114 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: think what it represents is a big shift. You know, 115 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, it was the Trumpers 116 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: that were the silent majority or silent half the country. 117 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: Now I think that's fliplocked. I think the Trumpers they've 118 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: been emboldened by Twitter. You know, Elon is out there 119 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: pushing them saying, hey, you know this is the spot. 120 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: It's all Trump all the time, and people that's giving 121 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: them Twitter courage and you know that process, you know, 122 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: I think that impacted what the Times is doing and 123 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: what the Post is doing. And I also think you know, 124 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: if you look at just podcasts across the board, the 125 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: right wing ones tend to do better and generate more revenue. 126 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 3: And I think that's that's part of it as well. 127 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: You know, Republicans by sneakers too. 128 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: And what is it? And why do you think that's 129 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: a case they're just more entertaining? Uh, it's what it's 130 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: the message, what is it? 131 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: I think Republicans SKW a little bit older, and I 132 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of reinforcement when you know, and 133 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: also the branding of the quote unquote mainstream stream media. 134 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: For a long time, it definitely leaned left, for sure, 135 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: right and they would tell you that's still the case today. 136 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: But with digital media, everything has grown so quickly that 137 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: the stronger players and with the bigger audiences, particularly online, 138 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: tend to lean right. And there's more money there and maybe, 139 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: you know, you know, we want to think that it's 140 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: you know, Elon, you know, or whoever influencing the La 141 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Times and whoever influencing bezos, But maybe it's just the dollars. 142 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the free market saying, you know what, 143 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: more of our customers spend money that are that lean right, 144 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: and our content plays better when it leans right, I'm guessing, 145 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: of course, but you got to look at all those 146 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: possible options, and when it. 147 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: Comes to the podcast are you it's interesting just in 148 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: terms of where the audience skews, but it also begs 149 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: the question, there's sort of this bro culture were keep 150 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 4: talking about right now, I know, you know, and that's 151 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: been a big conversation around to this gender gap in 152 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: this election, which goes in both directions significantly. We tend 153 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: to only talk about the gender gap as it favors Trump, 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: not necessarily the one that Kamal has pulled away with. 155 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: But what do you do you even subscribe to this 156 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: quote unquote bro culture? 157 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Does it even mean any team? Look, you know, Marshawn's 158 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: a little bit too old for this now, but you 159 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: know me. 160 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: Give me some give me some dang. 161 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, some dude's coming up now. They don't know newspapers. 162 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: My son's fifteen, my daughter's eighteen. They don't know newspapers. 163 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: They don't look at that stuff at all. Right, They 164 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: don't watch the news, they don't turn on the TV 165 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: for news. They go to Instagram and TikTok and YouTube 166 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: and they scroll and they get what the algorithm gives 167 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: them and they also like get used to watching the 168 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: Theo Vonn's, the nel Boys. The part of my take 169 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: all these all these folks, and again it's self reinforcing. 170 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: You're gonna say the shit that gets more people to 171 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: watch and listen. It's like Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan didn't 172 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: used to be right, you know, lean right, and it 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: paid off for him, you know, and you went with 174 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: it and can't You can't be mad at him. You 175 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: can't be mad at him for doing what's best for 176 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: his business. But that bro culture, you know, think about 177 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: what a hitch. The best way, you know, my little 178 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 3: parenting secret for my kids, they're fifteen, eighteen, and twenty 179 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: one now, so it still applies to my youngest. But 180 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: the best way to get to know what's in their 181 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: head is just to look at their scrolls on TikTok 182 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: and Instagram. 183 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: That's how you know about search engine and that history. 184 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, you know, but you know because they're all 185 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: day long scrolling, right, And so I look over my 186 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: son's shoulder and like I'm seeing basketball, basketball, football, football 187 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: fantasy fantasy fans, hot girl, basketball basketball bas hot girl, 188 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, And that's Okay, I'm cool with those ratios, 189 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: and I know those ratios are going to change. 190 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: I know yours are a lot different than that, right Mark. 191 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: No, I love my wife, but I'm not. 192 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 193 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: We were just we were just talking about the algorithm 194 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and how our playing. I said, you know, a couple 195 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: of my family members show me they they algorithms. And 196 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: it was just butt cheeks, that's all. It was butt 197 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: checks and. 198 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: You know or not? 199 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: Right, am I lion? My lion? Oh shit, Doug, get 200 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: us out of this, brother, Get us out of this, 201 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: Get me out of this. I can't afford this conversation, man. 202 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: That's yeah. 203 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, it is. It is crazy. And the 204 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: thing is them algorithms. 205 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: They don't they don't they don't know no, they don't 206 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: know no ages, they don't know no gender, they don't 207 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: know none of that. They just they just feed it 208 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: to you. Yep. 209 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: And that's I think when you talk about the bro 210 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: culture and the deficit with men, and then you add 211 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: to that like crypto, right, because if you're into crypto, 212 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: you're you know, it's mostly young men. Like when we 213 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: were growing up, it was a big deal to get 214 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: a bank account, your first checking account, to write your 215 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: first check, to get your first check. Now you just 216 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: download robin hood or coinbase, you buy yourself some doche 217 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: cone coin, You go and Reddit and you talk about 218 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, to the moon and you know bitcoin this 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: and theoryum that, and you know. And that's kids, particularly 220 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: kids of color that are eighteen to twenty five, because 221 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: that's their savings account. And you know that I think 222 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: also has hurt the Democrats sum But kam La figured 223 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: it out right, you started talking about it. She got 224 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: to it and said, you know what that's this is 225 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: their savings account, this is their net worth, and we're 226 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: going to support them. 227 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: So interesting, jove me crazy. Biden was slow to that, 228 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: and she finally picked up on that. 229 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: Mark he didn't give it. 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: It was interesting. It's not a knockout. I mean, I 231 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: love the guy, but it was interesting. It was a 232 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: stubborn thing. 233 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: Knocked on him. It was a knock on him. You know, 234 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: he just didn't get. 235 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: Out of market. Out of market. We all say get that, Gavin, 236 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: go ahead, gub no. By the way, Mark was one 237 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: of Cuban was one of the first to take bitcoin 238 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: of the damn you were the maps, right, I know you. 239 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: Because I know you the money man. So should I be? 240 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: Should I be thinking? 241 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: Jesus own a bunch, right, It's not a bad thing 242 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: to own some bitcoin, a little bit of ethereum, you know, 243 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: just to hold it there. It's like digital gold. 244 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: What you're calling your broker? 245 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: What the hell? 246 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: You just know? I'm saying you don't, man, you don't 247 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: fucking pair us up. No goddamn game from the money man. 248 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: And think that you be all right when you hear 249 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: the money man speak up, you listen, So hold on, 250 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: say that one more time. 251 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: Ethereum and it's just ethereum and bitcoin. That's what I 252 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: would stick to. And let me just tell you. They 253 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: can go down a lot. They can go. It's just 254 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: like regular gold. You know. Gold is kind of the 255 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: old school way to save money in a commodity and 256 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 3: bitcoin and the theorem or the new school way. But 257 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: the difference is it's easier when you do it all 258 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: in and app and you can track it all and 259 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: see what's going on. But you just got to put 260 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: it away, just by a little bit. Put it away, 261 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: forget about it. 262 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, French, hold on, fish look bad. 263 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: He likes his money. 264 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Mark I mean, you know I took. 265 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: By the way, Mark, he's got a lot to invest. 266 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: This son of a bitch saved all his money. He 267 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: saved every damn penny. 268 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: By the way, before you begin, Marshawn, this is funny. Hey, Mark, 269 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: no bullshit. When I was Marshawn's asient back in the day, 270 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: he had a million to one point two million dollars 271 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 5: in fines going into Super Bowl and Goodell was gonna 272 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: find him for not talking. He said, Hey man, I'm 273 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: not giving any fucking white boy my money. Fuck this, 274 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk and Mark. Tell them Mark, Marshawn, how 275 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: many finds you accumulated in your career. 276 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: I think one point two million was like the warm up. 277 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: I was show like the ship they find me for. 278 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: When I first got to the NBA, like my first year, 279 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to get to know people on 280 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: the squad, get to know the staff and everything. So 281 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: you know the dudes that sit down next to the 282 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: bench and they pick up all they give the gear 283 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: and everything. So I'm saying, I'm gonna sit down there 284 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna talk to him during the game. 285 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: While I'm watching the game, I get a call the 286 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: next day and it's David Stern. Rest in peace, Dave. 287 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: He's a good dude. He said, I gotta find you. Mark. 288 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, for what con deck unbecoming an owner, for 289 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: sitting on the floor next to the training staff. I'm like, 290 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: that's crazy, that's crazy. So and I said, you, well, 291 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: two things. One I'm gonna mash out the charity, which 292 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: I always did with my fines, and two, let me 293 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: find a better way to get fined. 294 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: Fuck y'all, hold on because I got more of because 295 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: now you talk about the ownership, because I got I 296 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: got a little bit with but ownership too, because I 297 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: need some of that too, because you know the Seattle Cracking. Yeah, 298 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean I got you know, I mean I got 299 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: my foot in it though, so you know what I mean. 300 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, I mean got a little ownership of the 301 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Seattle Cracking the hockey team. So I can't talk to 302 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: the to the to the staff on ice right, So 303 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: that that means I couldn't go down there and talk 304 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: to them, otherwise I would get a fine. 305 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what is this? 306 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Why you're aware? 307 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: I never seen Marshawn with glasses. You can't prepare to 308 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: be a student today with that man, who. 309 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: The fuck would pass this fucking opportunity on getting this game? 310 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: And see now we're here, now we're here. 311 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't. Fucking you can't. 312 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Man, Come on now, Dah, you can't, batman, you can't 313 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: have it. You can't have the money man sitting in 314 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: front of you and not pick up some nuggets that 315 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: he's dropping for you, especially when I'm trying to get 316 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: into that you feel me on the next you know 317 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, understanding how this ship really worked. Now, 318 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I know you made a joke about you know, hitting 319 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: my financial advisors, but already sent the text out this 320 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: big coin and now I need to find ways. 321 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: Marshan Marshaan, do this download that called coinbase coinbase yeah, 322 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: or and or robin Hood and just play with it. 323 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: Just get a feel, give yourself like one thousand dollars 324 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: in there, five thousand dollars, and just play with it 325 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: before you do anything else, just so you can get 326 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: a feel for what's going on. 327 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: All right, You ain't gonna lie first with because man, 328 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: they came back to me probably like five five years ago, 329 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: my boy see me Rice, and he like, man, you 330 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: gotta get on this on this big coin, and he 331 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to explain to me, like how it works, and 332 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, so it's not really money, like I can't 333 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: touch it, or is it like a real coin that 334 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: they gonna get like hot? 335 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: No, man, look, it's the new wave, you know what 336 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean. 337 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: This is what everybody gonna go to in the next 338 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: few years. It's gonna be you know, I mean that 339 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: paper money. You know what I mean because you say 340 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: about you know, owning a bank account, and we know, 341 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: shoe box money, money under the mattress, you know, I 342 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: mean we didn't you know the bank account and how 343 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: that worked, you know, the savings and you know what 344 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean. They taking a little bit out of this 345 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: and going to invest it over here and doing thing 346 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: was I don't know why why they taking my money? 347 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't I can't understand that. And then so now 348 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: with this, I was, you know, I was really scared 349 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: of it. Like so it's just make believe no, no, no, no. 350 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: It's digital, right, And so it's this thing called the blockchain, 351 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: and it's a way to do different types of applications, 352 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: and you know, it's just like all your real money 353 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: all you know, all your money in the bank, right, 354 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: It's not there's not somebody there holding like however much 355 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: you got in the bank, there's not somebody. There's not 356 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: a box at the bank with all your money. Right. 357 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: They put it in, they loan it out, they put it, 358 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: get put it in different opportunities, and they track it 359 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: all digitally. And with this with crypto, it's you know 360 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: a little bit similar in that you can loan it out, 361 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: you can use it for different applications, you can save it, 362 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: and on a supply and demand basis for bigcoin and ethereum, 363 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: if there's more demand than there is supply, then the 364 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: price goes up. If there's more supply than there is demand, 365 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: the price goes down. It's just like gold, right, Yeah, 366 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: it's just like. 367 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: Ya, So I knew. 368 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: So I knew it was serious when I was at 369 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: the UH at the casino and then I see you know, 370 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: the ATM, and then they had next to it they 371 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: had a bigcoin. 372 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: Htm yeah, the big. 373 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: Coin danger danger Like oh okay, so hey, so if 374 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 6: y'all wasn't listening before, you know, I'm talking to the people, 375 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: to my people, Hey. 376 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Y'all listen. 377 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Blockchain coin base Robin Hood yeah, I mean bitcoin and Eutherium. 378 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: I feel like I need a disclosure usually your well Mark. 379 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: I got to be honest, so you know, I work 380 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 5: for Casey Washerman. You're a good friend, and I run football. 381 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: It's been an Asian for thirty years, and I got 382 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: to be honest with you, like I've always been a 383 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: massive fan of you and what you've done because you've 384 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 5: been cutting edge. And if you look at if you 385 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: go back to when you bought the Maths in two thousand, 386 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 5: you know, it's interesting because you came in as a 387 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: young owner and immediately said, I got to get the team, 388 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 5: the right facility, mental health, coach, playing all that, and 389 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: you're still you were way ahead of the game twenty 390 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: four years ago. And even today the relationships you had 391 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 5: with your players and you talking about post career about 392 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 5: financial literacy. Owners today, very few of them are doing that. 393 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 5: And we're talking twenty four years later. 394 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: Now. It's changed a lot too, because back in the day, 395 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: like you know, even when Marshawn came into the league 396 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: of the NFL, there's mostly individual owners in the NFL, 397 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: and they're opening up now for investment groups. In the NBA, 398 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: there's more investment groups than there are individual owners. And 399 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: that's changed it, right because for me, like I was 400 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: the only guy, and like I could do whatever I 401 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: want to hang out, go to the clubs, chill, just 402 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: get to know them. It was fun. I'm not gonna lie. 403 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: Check the algorithms. 404 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, get the algorithm work. But you know, it also 405 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: was about understanding what put us in the best position 406 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: to win. How do you build culture, how do you 407 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: build chemistry? What's going to put you know? One of 408 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: the things I did. So when I first came in, 409 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: there was a head coach and there were three assistant 410 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: coaches and that was it. And I was like, damn, 411 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: we spend more money on computer repairs and computer training 412 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: than we do on development for our players. So I 413 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: went out and I got five fifteen former Mavericks and 414 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, come on in. Each of you gets to 415 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: signed a player and you're their workout coach, you're the 416 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: skills development coach. And that's the whole thing. Now you go, 417 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: you know, if you go to a game, watch before 418 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: the game, if you get there early, how many coaches 419 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: there are on the court working with the players. That 420 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: all started back then, So they picked up on some stuff, 421 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 3: but it's competitive. You know, every team's always looking for 422 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: the edge. 423 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: But Mark, did you look at did you look at 424 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 5: like Eddie de Bartelow and what he did in Jerry 425 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: Buston And did you take anything from those guys because 426 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: there were the two owners prior to you that really 427 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: number one took care of the players and had the relationships. 428 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love Jerry, but he was the best. 429 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: Like when I first got there, he like took me 430 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: under his wing and he was like, fuck, there was 431 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: other owners. Like he told me a story about when 432 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: he gave Magic Johnson a twenty five year contract for 433 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: a million dollars a year after he got HIV, and 434 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: he told me other stories I can't repeat, but it 435 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: was just like, you know what, you be yourself. That's 436 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: what got you here. Is what works for you. Don't 437 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: change for us. Be yourself. And that's what I did. 438 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: And literally I had one one meeting I was in 439 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: early on and there was a dude who owned the Wizards, 440 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: I think, and I'd already been find a couple of 441 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 3: times and you know, getting a lot of media coverage, 442 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: and in the meeting, he goes, you need to just 443 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: shiit sit yourself down and shut the fuck up until 444 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: you do something. And it's like some old dude and 445 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: I like, I didn't even know his name yet and 446 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: he's given me shit and like didn't starting to chill. 447 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, there was just a bunch of old dudes 448 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: that didn't care. They didn't care about winning, which was 449 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: good for me because like when there were times when 450 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: they couldn't afford to keep the roster anymore, I would 451 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: just swoop in and do a trade and and you know, 452 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: take their best player, Dirk. 453 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: So look, you know what's crazy about that is uh, 454 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: you know, because I came from Buffalo, and you know, 455 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson, I believe, was one of the original owners, 456 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know we really rarely had any uh contact 457 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: with ing, but you know, every now and dan he 458 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: would come. I remember I had a game and yeah, 459 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean he came in and was like, hey man, 460 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to do something to get you some help. 461 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, damn. Everybody was like, hold on, 462 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: was that the owner? 463 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: He just talked to me. 464 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: So when I get traded to uh Seattle, you know, 465 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: Paul Allen rest in peace. 466 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: That's my dog. 467 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a different guy. He's a different guy, 468 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: but he was a party gold. 469 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: So a lot of people was telling me, oh yeah, 470 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Paul Allen and this and then the third and blah 471 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and I'm like. 472 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: Man, okay. 473 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: So I had a Foundation dinner and he came, and 474 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: everybody like what the fuck, Like, how'd you get How 475 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: did you get Paul Alin to come to your fucking dam. 476 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, I don't know, but it came. He played, 477 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: he played, played his guitar, and I sat next to him, 478 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just having conversation, like because in my head 479 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like everybody, oh, he's weird and this and 480 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: that and the third. 481 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, like man, fuck that. I'm like, hey, dog, 482 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: what's hand? And man, how you doing? Like yeah, I'm good. 483 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, everybody been telling me you weird and 484 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: you park and shit, and I'm like, well, shit, you 485 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: want to get a drink. You're like, shit, all right, 486 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: what we drinking? I'm like Patrinity, he said, Patrol. I'm like, 487 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: it's a half Look now, I'm excited. Man, It's a 488 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: half shot of Patrol. It's a half shot of he 489 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: and we don't be on and he like, okay, cool, 490 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: all right, So man, I took the shot with him, 491 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: like yeah, we politic the whole day for me at 492 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: the event, you know what I mean, got people then 493 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: and then this is when I'm like oh yeah, oh 494 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: he different. So he gave me his email like, hey, 495 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you ever need some help or you 496 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: want to figure something out, yeah, don't hesitate to hit me. 497 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: So I was trying to get a beast Mode store 498 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: in Seattle. So I just hit him up like, hey, 499 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: what's up, man, I'm looking for a building and blah 500 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: blah blah. He didn't respond to me. But that day 501 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I got a call like, hey, man, Seawan, I'm so 502 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: and so Paul Ellen you know told me you reached out. 503 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: We heard you looking for a space. What you're looking for? 504 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: So I told him to specs on what I'm looking for. Okay, 505 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: when can you check it out? I'm in Oakland. I'm 506 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: like today, say okay, cool? 507 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: What time? I said, like around six? 508 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: All right? 509 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Cool? 510 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: I flew from Oakland to Seattle. They took me to 511 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: like three four different buildings. I'm like, oh, I like 512 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: this one, okay, cool, it's done. I'm like, what you 513 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: mean is done? Like it's done. When Paul says something, we. 514 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: Go and get it done. And I'm like, god damn. 515 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: So within what maybe four. 516 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Or five hours, I secured the building, secured the space 517 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: is right, it was right next to the stadium, and 518 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, yeah, this this this guy. 519 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: That's cool. This guy is this salary cap violation in 520 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: the NBA. 521 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 4: But that. 522 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: You know, but no, I feel you that that's that's 523 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 3: who he was. Man. He had a heart of gold. 524 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: But that's the kind of owner that I like, I 525 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: see you as like when it comes to some real ship. 526 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 5: Why are more NFL owners not like you in the NBA? 527 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: Is it just you think it's a level of players 528 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 5: in the team, the amount of players turn. 529 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 4: Over what you know. 530 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm a ball as life guy, you know, but half 531 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: half the most fun I have is the games and 532 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 3: the other half is like I get to go out 533 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: in the court before a game and get up shots 534 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: and play one on one or you know, get some 535 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: running and when you live it, like, if you're a 536 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: football guy at heart, you're gonna want to be out 537 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: there and talking to people. If it's just a business, 538 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: then you're not, you know, then you're just going to 539 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: treat it as a business. You know, if you've played 540 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: the game, but you know what it's like, like Marshawn, 541 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: you know what it's like now you watch a game 542 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: and your body's moving because you're looking and you're thinking, right, 543 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: what's going on? Right? You know, anybody who's played, I 544 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: don't care what level it is in basketball, when when 545 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: it's your team and you're watching the game and you're 546 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, and you feel it the whole time, Yeah, exactly, 547 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: we And so that's the difference. Not some guys buy 548 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: it for the investment. Some people buy it because it's 549 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: the family business, or in it because of the family business. 550 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: And some people, you know, they bought the team for 551 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: the love of the game. And when you buy for 552 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: the love of the game, you'll just see it's a 553 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: whole different perspective market. 554 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: But I'm curious because there's a there's different trains of thoughts. 555 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, your success and what you've been able 556 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 4: to build and brand and and and and and initiate, 557 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: I mean so many ways, it's the culture you've initiated 558 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 4: and inspired, But there are a lot of others sort 559 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: of I can think of a few names. I won't 560 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: mention where there's such a dominant owner that you sometimes 561 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: wonder if that dominant owner weren't the one making every 562 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: damn decision, or wasn't ubiquitous step back, had a different 563 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: group come in, that the team would actually perform at 564 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: a different level. 565 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: I've been to both. When we were winning, I was 566 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: a genius. When we were losing, I was a fucking idiot, 567 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 3: you know, And that's that's just the way it goes. 568 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's a it's very Darwinian. Either 569 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: it's on the left. I mean, it's in the wind 570 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: column and you're going to the playoffs and you're getting somewhere, 571 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: or it's not. And if you're an owner like I was, 572 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: that was really involved. And part of the reason, Gavin 573 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: is it's a lot of fucking money. I don't care 574 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: who you are. You know, when you're making a decision 575 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: on a contract that's going to be one hundred million 576 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: or now one hundred and fifty or two hundred million, 577 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: you want to make sure that the process is right 578 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: and you're getting it right. And in the NFL it's 579 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: a hard cap, you know, and it's you. Everybody gives 580 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: themselves a little leeway to do buyouts, but if you 581 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: get it wrong, particularly at the quarterback position, doesn't matter 582 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: how smart you are. If you did everything right and 583 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: then you got it wrong, and sometimes it's just luck. 584 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: Luck is more important than ninety nine percent of anything 585 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: else that happens in the NFL. If you get matched 586 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: up with the conference that sucks, you know, and you 587 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: got your game against them, you're gonna look like a 588 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: hero in the NBA. You know. If if like the 589 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: MAVs and we've been alive for forty five years, forty 590 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: five drafts, not one time at the Mavericks ever got 591 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: the number one pick. Not one time have the Mavericks 592 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: ever moved up in the draft. Not I'm just talking 593 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: about move up like the Luk a year, we worked 594 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: really hard to have the third worst record, but we 595 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: ended up with the fifth pick after the lottery. 596 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to say that out loud Mark said. 597 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: We were really committed. 598 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: The development season. It was a development season and that 599 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: was hard because they were needed a lot of development. 600 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: And we had the third worst record, ended up with 601 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: the fifth pick, and that caught us cost us the 602 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: draft pick. Then you look at San Antonio. Right, So 603 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: I bought the team in two thousand and ninety eight, 604 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 3: I forget, I'm not gonna get the years, right, but 605 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: not one year they they they tank and they get 606 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: David Robinson. Then David Robinson gets. 607 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: Hurt and they Jim Duncan. 608 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: Jim Duncan. Then this last year they get. 609 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? 610 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: I can't catch her break. 611 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: In twenty fourteen, you said you kind of said the 612 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 5: NFL in your mind had about a ten year run. 613 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 5: You were a concern and do you see I mean 614 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: to me as an NFL agent, you know people Number 615 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: one of the gambling has been big, right, But people 616 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: love the violence. They love the injuries, they love the hits, 617 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 5: they love every play means something. Was your opinion back then, 618 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: just from the standpoint of concussions and whatnot. 619 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: That was a little bit of it. That was a 620 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: little bit of it, and that's still kind of an issue. 621 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: But my point back then was that they were trying 622 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: to put it on too many nights of TV, and 623 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: so they went it went from Sunday night and Monday 624 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: night to Thursday night and then a Friday night game. 625 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: Sometimes and whenever it was Saturday games sometimes and I 626 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: thought it would be overpasturated. Obviously I was wrong. And 627 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: what I didn't account for as much as I should 628 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: have isn't so much gambling, even though that helps luck. 629 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: But fucking fantasy sports. 630 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: Fantasy, right, that's it. 631 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: People like get pissed if you don't. They get pissed 632 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: at you if like, if the over under, you don't 633 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: do this, you don't do that, and you know they 634 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: lose money. But fantasy sports, you know, they're thinking, I'm 635 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: gonna have to wear a fucking dress to school if 636 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: I lose this season, my god. Right, And that's what 637 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: drove the NFL, because realize it was only thirty years 638 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: ago that there was teams leaving in the middle of 639 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: the night. Yep. And then all of a sudden Yahoo 640 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: comes along and starts fantasy sports, you know, for the NFL, 641 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: and bam, it just blows up, and it's the only 642 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: sport that really works. Well. Basketball's got fantasy sports, but 643 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: there's too many games you have all week to work 644 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: on it. And the other thing about football that I 645 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: didn't account for, there's only what twelve minutes of actual 646 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: action in a football game, so it's a lot easier 647 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: to watch football. If you look at the ratings, it's 648 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: an inverse relationship between the amount of minutes played. The 649 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: games with that have the most minutes, like soccer have 650 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: the worst ratings because you got to watch the whole time. 651 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: Baseball has the next worst ratings because you got to 652 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: watch the whole time. Then basketball gets better because it's, 653 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, forty eight minutes, and then football's got twelve minutes. 654 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: You can take a shit, you can you know, do 655 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: your homework, and you're not going to miss the play. 656 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: And it's just football is the easiest sports to watch. 657 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: It's really interesting. Didn't you make a play for Well, 658 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: you've made a play for hell, half the damn teams 659 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: and all these leagues. I mean, I see your name 660 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: as socially a couple, only a couple, Only a couple. 661 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: But when I first made money in Soul broadcast dot Com, 662 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: because I grew up in Pittsburgh, I took a look 663 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: at the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Penguins. I wasn't a hockey guy, 664 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: but they were. They were at thread of closing down 665 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: or moving and so that's why I looked at it. 666 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: But it didn't work out. Mary Lemieux ended up buying him. 667 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: And then I looked at the Cubs in two thousand 668 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: and eight because it was the Cubs. Didn't happen in 669 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: twenty ten, you know the Cubs real quick. So I 670 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: was talking to Sam I forget his last name, real 671 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: estate guy, raspy voice, and I offered. I sat in 672 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: his office and I offered him eight hundred million dollars 673 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: for the Cubs. And he's going to get on his 674 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: knee say thank you very much, you're right now. No, 675 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that's my offer. So that that's what 676 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: happened there. And then twenty ten, the Rangers went up 677 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: to bankruptcy and I was in the bidding for that 678 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: in a bankruptcy court and Major League Baseball. But Celik, 679 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: the the commissioner, just told people to tell me, there 680 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: ain't no fucking way we're letting you win this. And 681 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: then that's what happened there. 682 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: What was that about? Just that was some personal thing? 683 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: What wasn't They thought? 684 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 3: They thought I was going to be the next George 685 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: Steinbrenner in fuck up the no salary cap league. 686 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: Well, Mark, we need you to come in and buy 687 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: the age. 688 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: When they were here. 689 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: That's a fucking disasters, you know conversation. 690 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but I mean I've had enough. Baseball is 691 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: too many games. I would be dead because I'd get 692 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: so into it. 693 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 5: And Mark, let me ask you a question as you 694 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: won't you've been stated that you don't like traditional politics. 695 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: But you know what, I know you've actually liked Gavin. 696 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: You like him as a person. 697 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're kind of stuck saying that now, Mark 698 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. 699 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: By the way, like you would not agree with you. 700 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: So Mark's going to be completely honest. Thanks, asshole. 701 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: But Mark, the second part of that is, as you know, 702 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: there's been some rumors that the Oakland mayor might be recalled. 703 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: And guess what we. 704 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: Got, Marshan. He's a real politician. 705 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: Now more we might have a dream team as a 706 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: non traditional politician to run Oakland, which you're. 707 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: Telling to give give him the best advice you can, 708 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: stay away from politics and let him enjoy his life. 709 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: Okay. You can have two different attitudes, right, there's the 710 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: whole public service attitude and there's the ald what the fuck, 711 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: let's just be what it's like attitude. Right, what's the 712 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: word you lose? You learn, you win, You fuck them 713 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: all up, right, you change the game. 714 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: I like the latter. You've convinced me, Marshaan, you gotta 715 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 4: do it, bro. 716 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Look get I told you man, I got a secret weapon. Man, Batman, 717 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: you got to come. 718 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: Through for me. 719 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: So I did. I did Dancing with the Stars, and 720 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. I did Dancing with such which 721 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: was the hardest scariest thing I've ever done in my life, 722 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: dancing live in front of twenty two million people. But 723 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: I did before, so that was cool. But and I 724 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: said to myself, I don't want to be ninety five 725 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: years old and look back on my in my last 726 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: days and said what it could have should have Why 727 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: didn't I do it? So if it's something you think 728 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: in twenty thirty, forty fifty years you're gonna look back 729 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: and say, damn, I should have done that, you always 730 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: do it. 731 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: Don't dream of regretting. I love that. 732 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm in it, man, because you know. And 733 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: the thing is when you talk about traditional politics and 734 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: all of that type of shit, like not a traditional 735 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: type of motherfucker. 736 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: First and foreman. 737 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Then at the end of the day is like I'm 738 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: looking at my city and what is really going through 739 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what I mean, the way 740 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I see it is like, you know, the politicians they're 741 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: going there with with a mindset and you know, I'm 742 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: not talking about you specifically, gathered, but you know, the 743 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: motherfuckers beat bunk and they got a narrative and they 744 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: got you know what I mean, ultier motives that they 745 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: trying to get, you know what i mean, pushed and 746 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at. 747 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: Most of them just want power. It's all about power, man, 748 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: because if you, if you have don't have another skill, 749 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: like you busted your ass, right, people don't realize what's evolved. 750 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 3: Everybody tells you they could have been that next Marshawn Lynch, right, 751 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: and you already come up, I'm going to be you. 752 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: But then when you ask them how much work they do, 753 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: it just don't add up, don't. It doesn't happen, right. 754 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: They math ain't math. And when it comes to. 755 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: It, politics is like the path of least resistance to 756 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: get power. You can go and accomplished, and you can 757 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: go and win an election. Just look at you know 758 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: who Kambla Harris is running against. 759 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: You know, and what is it? There's sort of an archetype. 760 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 4: I mean, well, I mean, let's talk. Why the hell 761 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: are you Mark Cuban. You have put yourself so goddamn 762 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: far out in this election. It's one thing you've dabbled 763 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 4: in this stuff, you go. I mean, you've not just dabbled. 764 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: You've been rumored to run for president yourself back in 765 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. You had some fun with that as well. 766 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 4: I thought you were pretty damn serious about it, and 767 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 4: you supported candidates at all political parties, which is great. 768 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 4: You kind of I mean sort of associated with a 769 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: sort of a libertary framework. But man, you are next 770 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: level all in for Kamala and that has all the 771 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: benefits and all the damn risks attached to it. What 772 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: are you doing? What are you thinking? I love it, 773 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: but I appreciate it, But what are you thinking? 774 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: I mean, this country is important to me. I don't 775 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: you know, you guys don't know who the fuck I 776 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: am if it weren't for all the things this country 777 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: has given me and that I respect and I appreciate 778 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: and don't take for granted. And I never really got 779 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: into politics hard until Trump ran. And you know, initially 780 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 3: I actually supported him because I thought he had no 781 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: chance to win, and I just thought, Okay, he's not 782 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: a politician. You know, he's going to bring a different 783 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: perspective and that's cool, but he just doesn't do the work. 784 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: He cares about himself. He doesn't, you know, understand policy 785 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: or try to understand policy. It's all on feel. He's 786 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 3: just a salesperson. He's not trying to do the right thing. 787 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: And that scares me, you know. And we can get 788 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: into all the things that we all read about and 789 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: hear about and all that kind of stuff that's scary, 790 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 3: That is really really scary, and I just don't want 791 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: to see that for my kids. And honestly, I didn't. 792 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: I didn't think it would snowball like this, you know. 793 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: But all I'm really doing is going out and doing 794 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: interviews and doing town halls. It's not like you know, in. 795 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: A rally or two here and there. You did one 796 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: last week. 797 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: That was one of those life experiences right where you're 798 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 3: getting front, you know that stuff that was in front 799 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: of ten thousand people and give it a speech. 800 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: Man, you hit it, you nailed it. I texted you. 801 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 4: I thought it was great, bro, you crushed it. Man. 802 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: I was fine. I wrote it about ten minutes before 803 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: I got there in the car on the way, so 804 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm looking on my phone. 805 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you had it on the phone. I'm like, this 806 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 4: is a modern version. 807 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 5: Geez Mark, let me ask you a question as an 808 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 5: as an ex NBA owner. 809 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 4: It's interesting. 810 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: The other day I called literally sixty five of my 811 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: clients across the NFL and I said, hey, I'm just curious. 812 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 5: I don't care who you voting for. I'm just curious 813 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 5: who do you think the majority of the locker room 814 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: was voting for. And universally every one of them said Trump. 815 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 5: And you're an NBA guy, Why do you think that is. 816 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 5: As far as the athletes in terms of their mindset. 817 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they think he's going to be better for money, 818 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: and that's why I'm out there. Tell him he's not 819 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: the tariffs he's trying to propose awful for athletes. Right, 820 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 3: they'll make but bigger picture, look, you know COMO will 821 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: probably increase their income tax two percent, and to some 822 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: people that's big deal, right, to other people, they'll put 823 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 3: the country first. But the bigger thing is is how 824 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 3: he's going to treat people. If you know, every single 825 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: one of those players does something in the community. Almost 826 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: all of them have foundations that get involved in the community. 827 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: And if they think that Donald Trump is going to 828 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: be supportive of people of color, They've got another thing coming. 829 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: It's just going to make their lives harder. But look, 830 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: athletes have never been known for doing the work. In 831 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: terms of most people, ninety nine percent of people just now, 832 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: like we're saying before, just get their information from memes. 833 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: And you know, Dan well, you know, players are on 834 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: Instagram all day every day looking for them. 835 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: That's good. 836 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: That's good to hear though from somebody who you know, 837 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean actually, yeah, I mean done the work. 838 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you look at what's going on, 839 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: Like there's thirty three million companies in this in this country, 840 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of them are small businesses, their sub 841 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: chapter s or limited liability corporations through through pass through right, 842 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: and Kamala has said if you make four hundred thousand 843 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: dollars or less, your taxes are either going to stay 844 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: the same or go down, which means ninety nine percent 845 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 3: of the owners of those companies, their taxes are going 846 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: to stay the same or go down. So there's nothing 847 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is doing that's going to impact positively 848 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: any of those any of those companies. But on the 849 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: flip side, if you're a small business, and let's well, 850 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 3: let's just take a step back. Let's just say you're 851 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: planning your Christmas buys for Christmas now, right right around now, 852 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: you're thinking about what you're going to get your kids 853 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 3: a year from now. Donald Trump's in office, and he 854 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 3: puts sixty percent tariffs on China. Let me just tell you, 855 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: most of the shit you were going to buy your family, 856 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: friends and kids is from China, and that means all 857 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 3: those prices are going up. So you tell the athletes wretch, 858 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: You tell him you're like all the presents and shit 859 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: you're going to get him next year. If you win, 860 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 3: you're paying a whole lot more. But he gets worse, right, 861 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: because where do you buy all that shit from a 862 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: lot of it you buy from small businesses. You buy 863 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 3: from your jewelry dude, right, You buy the shoes at 864 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 3: that store that only the only one that carries your 865 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: size in Atlanta, whatever it is, right, and you don't 866 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: have as much money to spend because those tariffs jacked 867 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: up all those costs. So those small businesses are suffering 868 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: now too, And a lot of them are going to 869 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: go out of business like they did last time. Trump 870 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: got into a tariff for so I'm out there telling 871 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: people this is what's going to happen if he does 872 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: his tariffs. Most people just don't understand that. But I've 873 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: had to live it. 874 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 4: And by the way, that's why people are listening to it. 875 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 4: We've been talking about this tear I must have. I've 876 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: been out on the road. I give that tariff speech. 877 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 4: No one gives a damn. You go out there and 878 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 4: it's like, wait, it's like Marshawn pulls out the pen. 879 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 4: It's like Cuban's saying this there he is like, all 880 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: of a sudden. 881 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: You've got to relate it to people's pocketbook. When you 882 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 3: just say it's a tax, it's just like sales tax. 883 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 3: People don't think twice right. But when you say, okay, Christmas. 884 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: Christmas, I love it, and then you're the only guy 885 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: saying that, only goddamn guy saying that. You're a spot 886 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 4: on man. 887 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 5: Well, well, Mark, Mark, My question is, so is combling 888 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 5: them are they doing? Do they have the right message 889 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 5: in terms of dumbing it down and giving the bullet 890 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 5: points to what people need to hear, well. 891 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 3: That's what they got me going out there because Kama, Look, 892 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: Kamma just got out there thirteen weeks ago, and she 893 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: would think about this, you got to do that was 894 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: the president ran for president in twenty twenty, been campaigning 895 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 3: ever since. So that's nine straight years he's campaigning or president. 896 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: And in thirteen weeks this lady comes along that people 897 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 3: just know she's the vice president, didn't have high favorable ratings, 898 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 3: didn't have high visibility, and just up to the motherfucker right, 899 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: you got all of a sudden, you know, that's like 900 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 3: me running a race against Marshawn like and all of 901 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm catching up. It's like, what the hell 902 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: is going on? And so the published a lot. But 903 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, guys, the worst part of what 904 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: I see from Donald Trump big picture, right, and that's deportations. 905 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 3: He's talking about mass deportations. If you all know anybody 906 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 3: who's got a relative that isn't all doesn't have all 907 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 3: their documentation down, like you might have somebody whose grandmother 908 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: came over thirty years ago or grandpap came over thirty 909 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: years ago, and they got three American kids and four 910 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: American grandkids. Don't be surprised if someone comes knocking on 911 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 3: their door. Don't be surprised if someone shows up at 912 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: your office and goes, okay, I want to know. You know, 913 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 3: there's this thing called I nine which determines their immigration 914 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: status and everything their worst status. I want your I 915 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: nine list of every single employee so I can go 916 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: knock on their door at their house to find out 917 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 3: there's anybody undocumented there. And don't be surprised if all 918 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 3: of a sudden, like the way Trump is talking about 919 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 3: using this American I forget the AA of seventeen ninety eight. 920 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 4: Was yeah, I mean, I mean this which we use 921 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 4: to in turn the Japanese, but it's worse like so 922 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 4: literally with this this law from seventeen ninety eight, if 923 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 4: he says that we're at war, just like that's how 924 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 4: we got the tariffs, and he said we were at 925 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 4: war with China, economic war. 926 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 3: With China, and so if he does something like that, 927 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 3: it's not just about deporting people who are here illegally 928 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: or undocumented. He can take somebody who's here legally. So 929 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 3: if he says we've got something going on with Venezuela, 930 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: you're here legally, you've got residency, Siah, he's got that option. 931 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: Imagine what happens, Maean in Oakland if somebody's knocking on 932 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: doors going through I don't know Oakland at all, but 933 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: going through a part of part of town where there's 934 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 3: a community where there are a lot of undocumented people. 935 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: They may be grandparents, they may be workers, whatever it 936 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: is that have been here for decades, and people start 937 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: pulling people out of the house. I mean, do you 938 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: how do you think people are going to respond. 939 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: I know how they're going to respond. 940 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: That's right, Oakland. 941 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: It's already violent. 942 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: It'll get it'll get even even more violentating you know 943 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: how people feel about. 944 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 2: They you know what I mean? 945 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 3: They their family, right, you can't come. 946 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: Their grandparents, like, that's one thing. 947 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 3: You know, cousins, their nephews, right. We all know somebody 948 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: who's got somebody undocumented in their family. We know somebody 949 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: who's undocumented. 950 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 5: And so Mark, you think you think this starts like 951 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 5: day twenty if he gets in like right away, I don't. 952 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: I don't think he can start doing that immediately. But 953 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: he's going to set it up. He's talking about it 954 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 3: every day. He's talking about it single Day. 955 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 4: And Mark just I mean, as Mark reminds everybody and 956 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 4: from Marshawn and Doug and everyone listening to tariffs, you 957 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: don't need Congress. Now President of the United States has 958 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 4: the unilater ability to impose these tarrorsts sixty percent on 959 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 4: all imported goods from China up to twenty percent, and 960 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 4: about three point one trillion dollars of imported goods from 961 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 4: the rest of the world. We're not even talking about 962 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 4: retaliatory terraffs. 963 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: So let me tell you about retaliatory tariffs. Let's just 964 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 3: say you want start a company that exports all all 965 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: the merch that you have. Right, do you guys sell 966 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: merchandise anywhere outside the country be smoke, Yeah, my beast. 967 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: Mode apparel, Like if you get yeah, I mean somebody 968 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: buy from from overseas or some year. 969 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they don't make it, so you can't 970 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: afford it. The stuff that you where do you make 971 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 3: your stuff? The beast Bode merchandise, where do you make it? 972 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: We make some over in China. 973 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, all of a sudden that beast Boad stuff 974 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 3: went up from China went up sixty percent, and from 975 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: Philippines went up twenty percent. What's that doing to your business? 976 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurt. That hurt a lot. 977 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 4: And that's, by the way, Marshall, that's literally what he's proposing. 978 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 4: That's his closing argument in this campaign. And he's delusional 979 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: about it. Mark's making this point. He literally doesn't understand. 980 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 4: He's stuck on stupid back in the nineteen eighties mindset. 981 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he tried it before and what ended up 982 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: happening is China kicked his ass. So he said, China, 983 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 3: we're going to tear if you and all this stuff 984 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: because I want people to make this stuff here. Let's 985 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: just walk through this, right. If somebody could make something 986 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: like just say, like your merchandise, if they can make 987 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 3: it here at an affordable price, they'd already be doing it. 988 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 3: The reason they don't make it here, like I would 989 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 3: start that business if I could do it and take 990 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: that business back. And I have a couple of businesses 991 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 3: we you know, set up robotics manufacturing and brought manufacturing back. 992 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: But if they can make it here, they would have 993 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 3: done it already. The reason they don't do it is 994 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 3: Americans won't pay more for made in America products. We 995 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: just won't. If everybody paid twenty percent more for everything. 996 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 3: Then you know, beast Mode products could just make it here. 997 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 4: And by the way, here's in a perfect proof point 998 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 4: of that Mark is the Trump Bible is made in China, 999 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 4: in damn China. Can't make the shut up? 1000 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: Is his shoes made out there too? 1001 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 4: His ties are made there is God. We don't even 1002 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 4: bring up the sneakers bro or the Swiss watch that's 1003 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: made down at some local damn shopping mall. 1004 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. You know, you know why somebody 1005 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: you know why he sells all that shit because he 1006 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 3: has to. 1007 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 4: Money that's not for the campaign. That's part. He's got 1008 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 4: his own crypto thing too. Make Sean Marshaun doesn't write 1009 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 4: that one down. Hey, Mark, let me ask you a question. 1010 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 5: I mean, I know, and back in the day you 1011 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 5: were you were friends with them and all that and 1012 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 5: going through all this stuff. Now does he call you 1013 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 5: offline and say, hey, Mark, come on, man, like what 1014 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 5: have you? You don't talk to me any more like that? 1015 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 3: And then I talked to him, and since he invited 1016 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: me to the White House at the end of his term, 1017 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him. 1018 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying with me, man, about the same time, so 1019 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 4: he did his truth. 1020 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: Social thing about me, and he said, oh, I'm a bully. 1021 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 3: I stuck this and that. 1022 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you suck as a golfer, bro, what's up with that? 1023 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 3: Come on, Cuban, I told so, I'm going to tell 1024 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 3: you guys. The truth of what I told everybody else 1025 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 3: is I could I'll drive him anytime, right, I take 1026 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 3: you that. The reality is I am golf since nineteen 1027 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 3: eighty nine. So when he says he's seen me golf, 1028 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 3: it's so full of shit, right of my one of 1029 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 3: my customers. And I was one of these dudes that 1030 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 3: like I hadn't practiced, and I got so mad. I 1031 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 3: was ready to throw clubs in front of one of 1032 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 3: my customers. And I was like, there's no chance I 1033 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 3: can't do this. I'll kill my company. And so yeah, 1034 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: so he talks about my golf clubhead speed and how unethleft. 1035 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 3: I am like he's the beast right. Hey? 1036 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 4: You know Mark, just you know is we're sure I'm 1037 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 4: worried about not getting all this stuff and we could 1038 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 4: talk to you forever, man. But I loved your mindset 1039 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 4: of just about you know, putting everything out on the line, 1040 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 4: and you know, you get one chance at life you got. 1041 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 4: I mean his Doug loves to say, you have only 1042 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 4: so many summers left, and having that mindset just you're 1043 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: just constantly going, going, going, going. One of the things 1044 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 4: that I really appreciate, Admyer. You've also gone into one 1045 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 4: of the most difficult, goddamn businesses in the world, one 1046 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 4: of the most opaque businesses in the world, and that's 1047 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 4: the healthcare and drug space, with this cost plush drug 1048 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 4: dot com business, which I know you and I have 1049 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 4: had a few exchanges about how the hell is that going? 1050 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 4: And tell us a little bit about that. 1051 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 3: Man. It's called costplus Drugs dot Com. And you talked 1052 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: about the drug industry being opaque before us. You know, 1053 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 3: you get a prescription, the doctor just says what pharmacy 1054 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: do you use? And you really don't know what it's 1055 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 3: going to cost. If you're a self insured employer, you 1056 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,479 Speaker 3: have no idea what your medications cost to this day. 1057 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 3: So what we did, we said, you go to costplus 1058 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 3: Drugs Drugs dot Com and Marshan pay attention to this one, 1059 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: and you put in this drug called Toadila phil Todd 1060 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 3: Dila Phil right, which is generic cialis I'm just saying, 1061 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: but if you put that in right and and up 1062 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: it comes, we show you your cost. So we show 1063 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 3: your cost of what it is, and we show you 1064 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 3: our markup which is fifteen percent, and then we show 1065 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 3: you our shipping and handling on our pharmacy fee which 1066 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: is ten bucks, or you can pick up a local pharmacy. 1067 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: By doing that, we've cut the cost of medications for people, 1068 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 3: in some cases thousands of dollars per month. Like I 1069 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 3: had one friend he had to drug DROXI doopa, which 1070 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 3: I still don't know what it does. He was looking 1071 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 3: at having to pay ten thousand dollars every three months. 1072 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 3: I said, can carry it. We carried it sixty four 1073 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 3: dollars a month. And now it's even cheaper than that. 1074 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 3: And so we're just blowing up. I mean, if people 1075 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 3: are just going in there, and not only are our 1076 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: patients checking it out and saving a lot of money, 1077 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 3: but now there's like research companies because we publish our 1078 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,919 Speaker 3: price lists that are going out and saying, Okay, if 1079 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 3: the federal government or even the state of California had 1080 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 3: bought all their medications through costplus Drugs dot Com, then 1081 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: you would have say, you know, medicare would have saved 1082 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: three point six billion for these nine drugs, six point 1083 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 3: three billion a year for these eleven. It's it's insane. 1084 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 3: And so just that transparency. And I'll tie this back 1085 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: to kalmblom So when I talked to her team and 1086 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: we start talking about ways to cut costs of living 1087 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 3: for families and households, we talk specifically about this that 1088 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: if you start to take on and Gavin you know 1089 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: about the stuff, If you start to take on the 1090 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 3: pharmacy benefit managers, the pharmacy middleman who set the prices 1091 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: of medications, you're going to to be able to have 1092 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 3: an impact. And if you introduce on top of that 1093 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: transparency like cost plus is done, then you're gonna cut 1094 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 3: cost immediately. And you know, with what she's proposing, I 1095 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: truly believe that you can cut costs twenty thirty forty 1096 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 3: percent for medications for people's households. And that's a big 1097 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 3: upset against inflation. And it means, you know, for lots 1098 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 3: of families, they're spending lots less. And even if you 1099 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 3: have good insurance, if your if your copay or you're 1100 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 3: deductible is high, this would still that approach would still 1101 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 3: save them a lot of money, which would turn things 1102 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: around in terms of how to pocket costs for families. 1103 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 2: And what's the name of that company again? 1104 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 3: Ax plus Drugs dot com? And just put in generic Viagra. 1105 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 4: What oh, all of a sudden, these two guys looked up. 1106 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 3: Because tell you, this is what I tell all my friends, right, 1107 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, it costs you for a for a big 1108 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 3: bag of M and ms, it costs you about ten 1109 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 3: bucks and you can put them in a bowl next 1110 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 3: to your bed where ever. You can get ninety generic 1111 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: Silist or generic Biographer nine dollars and ninety cents plus 1112 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: shipping and handling. 1113 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: You know, and go beat the breaks off some ship. 1114 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking. 1115 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: Beating ship down. Hear me jumping off the ceiling light. 1116 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 4: Ship and mark to be young and single, Mark to bees. 1117 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 3: That's not the next mayor of Oakland, Californ. 1118 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 4: There you are, Jesus, really, mister good is that doing 1119 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 4: to represent Oakland? Thank you, Jesus. 1120 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 3: Remain to the birth rate in this country. 1121 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: Right hey man? And that and that brings a stress 1122 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: level down, man down. And you know when you got 1123 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: more happy people, you got more happy times. 1124 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 4: Yes, all go mershawn. 1125 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 3: I'm here for you. I'm just trying to do my part. 1126 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,919 Speaker 4: And Mark, you have a question. 1127 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 5: Going back way back when, Mark, I was curious because 1128 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 5: when you dropped out of high school your senior year 1129 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 5: to go to college, well, your parents behind that, your 1130 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 5: friends like, what the fuck is this guy doing? I mean, 1131 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 5: that was the coolest thing in the world, the hustle 1132 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 5: and grind you had back then. Dude, I applaud big time, 1133 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 5: man because I've been the same way. And how was 1134 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 5: their reaction back then when they did that. 1135 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 3: I didn't really tell them. And so I took classes 1136 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: at night at the University of Pittsburgh my junior year 1137 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: and I did well, right, And yeah, I was sixteen. 1138 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 3: I didn't get a's. I got b's, which is first 1139 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 3: sixteen year old in college. Was cool, but so I 1140 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 3: wasn't one of those super you know, geniuses that just 1141 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 3: taste everything. But then, so I was already in the 1142 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 3: University of Pittsburgh. I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to 1143 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 3: go to college and literally because I'm going to have 1144 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: more fun in college than I was in high school 1145 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: because you know, I'm sixteen a little bit now. But 1146 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 3: I waited more than I do now when I was 1147 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 3: like a sophomore in junior in high school, and I 1148 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 3: was five inches shorter, and so I kind of glowed 1149 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 3: up afterwards, and I was starting to, you know, by 1150 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 3: the time my senior year came along, and I wanted 1151 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 3: to take take advantage of that mark. 1152 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 5: But going back to the early days of maths, I mean, 1153 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 5: you were you were single for how many years before. 1154 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 4: You you're going here? 1155 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 3: Three? 1156 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 5: Three years only he owned hold On Gavin, he owns 1157 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 5: just freaking team. 1158 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 4: Okay, No, that's why I've said, Thank god it was 1159 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 4: only three and Mark, Mark, God bless you man. We 1160 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: talked about being on borrow time. 1161 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 5: I mean, that must have been some of the funnest 1162 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 5: years of life, owning the fucking. 1163 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 4: Developing a long term relationship. No, give some more meaning 1164 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 4: and purpose. 1165 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 3: Let's take a couple of years before that. Okay, let's 1166 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 3: go after I sold my first company. It was company 1167 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 3: called micro Solutions, and I got a few million bucks 1168 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 3: out of it. So remember the old school steakhouses that 1169 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 3: like in the movie Casino, where they had these phone 1170 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 3: jacks and you can get a phone and you can 1171 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 3: plug it in and call somebody. Oh yeah, to one 1172 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 3: of these old school steakhouses. I was just fuck up. 1173 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I would want another level of stuttering and 1174 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 3: stumbling and all that. And they're like, what do you 1175 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 3: want to get? And I'm not really into cars. I 1176 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 3: already had a house, and I was like, I want 1177 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 3: to get a lifetime pass and American Airlines I want 1178 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 3: to see if they have them. So I ask for 1179 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: the phone, I plug it in. I'm like, hello, American Airlines, 1180 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: do you guys have lifetime passes? Sure, let me connect 1181 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 3: you to the air pass department. So hungover and all, 1182 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 3: they send me stuff the next day FedEx, and I'm 1183 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 3: looking at it and it's like one hundred and twenty 1184 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars for me and somebody else to fly 1185 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 3: wherever we wanted on American airlines for the rest of 1186 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 3: my life. Holy shit, that's when I had fun. 1187 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 4: Oh you can do them, yeah, of course. The son 1188 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 4: of a bitch a few years later buys a g 1189 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: something online for forty goddamn million bucks, So you never 1190 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 4: even use the damn thing. 1191 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 2: You can buy lifetime pass. 1192 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 4: Not anymore, not anymore? 1193 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 2: What are you grandfathered in? 1194 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 3: No? So I actually I gave it to one of 1195 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: my friends. After my dad. So you're not supposed to 1196 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 3: be able to give it away, but I give it 1197 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 3: to my dad he passed, and then I gave it 1198 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: to one of my friends who doesn't fly that much 1199 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 3: but uses it. 1200 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 2: Well if they don't, Yeah, I mean't find it handy anymore. 1201 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 3: You're next. 1202 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you know I might be able to put 1203 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 2: that to use. 1204 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 3: I tell you, by John, I used to spend some 1205 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 3: time living in Manhattan Beach in LA and I would 1206 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: just go on to the clubs. I'd be like, I 1207 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 3: want to go to Vegas. What come on, let's just 1208 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 3: go right now. 1209 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 5: I want to go by the way Mark. Manhattan Beach 1210 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 5: is my happy place. I'm down there every July. My 1211 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 5: daughter plays beach volleyball. I love Manhattan Beach. That was 1212 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 5: your stomping ground Bay Jesus. 1213 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I still got a spot there. Show Backs is 1214 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 3: my spot. 1215 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, Well then it begs this question, what spot? 1216 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 4: Come on, Cuban, tell the truth. Is it Treasury or SEC? 1217 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 4: What the hell? 1218 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 3: No? Nothing, I don't want I was just trolling the beach, 1219 00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: were joking. 1220 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 4: You were having just because of all the for obvious reasons, 1221 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 4: having fun on the SEC Treasury is legit though I'm 1222 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 4: just no. 1223 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 3: LETJB. Diamond get that. I mean to be fun to 1224 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 3: have your name on the money, that would be cool 1225 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 3: as shit. But yeah, I like Cosplos Drugs dot Com. 1226 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 3: I think I can have more impact on the outside 1227 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: than on the inside. And I just I cannot see 1228 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 3: putting on a suit every day and go to work. Literally, 1229 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 3: when I after I sold my first company, I got 1230 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 3: rid of my watches that I'd never wear a watch 1231 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: again because that means I have to be on somebody 1232 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 3: else's time. And until I got an eye watch for workouts, 1233 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 3: didn't wear a watch for years decades. And I don't 1234 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 3: want to go back to having to work on somebody 1235 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 3: else's clock. I want to be a life. 1236 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 4: I admire your clarity on that, and I've heard you 1237 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 4: answer similarly, so I appreciate your consistency, but also just 1238 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 4: reinforces how how meaningful your support of Kamala is at 1239 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 4: this critical time. No bullshit. I'm just you know, I'm curious, 1240 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 4: do you really I mean, if Trump actually pulls us 1241 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends who are like, come on, man, 1242 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 4: we survived the first four years. You said the same 1243 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 4: thing he said the sky was gonna come in. You 1244 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 4: overstated everything. We were fine up until COVID things were 1245 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 4: pretty good. Do you, I mean, you really feel this 1246 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 4: is as existential as some have made it out. 1247 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 3: Like Tony Soprano when he was a baby gangster and 1248 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 3: first got control of the family, he wasn't all that powerful. 1249 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 3: But when you're in and you already know the ropes, 1250 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 3: who knows. Look, I'm not gonna say it's one hundred 1251 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: percent he's going to be all that, but it's certainly 1252 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 3: greater than zero percent. And that greater than zero percent 1253 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 3: is enough for me just to say, it's just I 1254 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: don't want to take that risk. 1255 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 2: It's just there's no So how does that the situation? Right? 1256 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: So you had a pandemic and Dennis like, oh, yeah, 1257 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: well Trump gave us all this money base and then 1258 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: you know when they finally comes out like oh no, 1259 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: that wasn't a Trump thing, like a yeah, so it 1260 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: is this something whereas like there's money put aside for 1261 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: when you have a pandemic or something. 1262 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 3: That's now there's no money put this guy for anything. 1263 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 3: Now we're we're in debt. 1264 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 4: Man. 1265 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 3: It's just it's no different than your house, right, you know, 1266 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,479 Speaker 3: you know people that are in debt and no matter 1267 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 3: how hard they work, they keep on falling further. For 1268 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 3: it's like using a credit card. Right, If you use 1269 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 3: a credit card and it's that twenty nine percent interesting, 1270 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 3: you don't pay in thirty days, it's just like it's 1271 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: going to add up fast. And that's what's happening to, 1272 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: you know, with us. So the question becomes, who's going 1273 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 3: to cut the deficit and how are you going to 1274 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 3: do it? And that's a real question. Like I sat 1275 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 3: down and did this interview with Kamala and you know, 1276 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 3: I asked her how do we cut the deficit? And 1277 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 3: there's like she was like, look, and she did this 1278 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 3: as ag. She's like, you got to look at programs 1279 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 3: to see what's efficient and what's working and what's not 1280 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 3: and some things you're going to have to cut. Others, 1281 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 3: you know, you have to look big picture that you 1282 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 3: don't want to cut them, but you can make them 1283 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 3: more efficient. You can use technology, you can use new tools, 1284 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 3: you can you know, she told this story at one speech, 1285 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 3: But it only took one year to build the Empire 1286 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 3: State building one year, and it takes longer than that 1287 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 3: just to think about getting permits these day, and so 1288 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 3: she's talked about reducing that. And if you start doing 1289 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 3: those things and growing, then you can deal with the deficit. 1290 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 3: But if you're Trump and you've got all these tariffs 1291 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 3: and you crush the economy, you can't grow your way 1292 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 3: out of it. 1293 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 4: I love it, and speaking the way out, You're out 1294 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 4: of Shark Tank. One more season, Huh. 1295 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 3: That's it. I'm done filming. This is my fifteenth season. 1296 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: That was enough. We shoot in September and June. In 1297 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 3: September in Culver City, it's sony, but June is when 1298 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 3: my kids would always get out of school. In September 1299 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 3: is when they go back, and I was always missing 1300 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: the shit. And I was like, you know, when they 1301 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 3: were little, I can make them work around my schedule 1302 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 3: and do what I want them to do. Now that 1303 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 3: they're teenagers in twenty one, they don't give a shit 1304 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 3: about me. Right, I got to work to their schedule, 1305 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 3: and so I don't want to miss that. 1306 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 4: And was that a big honestly, was that a big 1307 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 4: part of why you sold the majority stake in the 1308 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 4: mass so much? 1309 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 3: A little bit, right, because like we were just talking 1310 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 3: about all the shit owners get and like, if you're 1311 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 3: doing well, you're a hero. And if not, everybody say, 1312 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 3: I don't want my kids to be in that position, 1313 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 3: at least the way things are right now. And you know, 1314 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 3: it's not that they would take over tomorrow, but I've 1315 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 3: seen what happen where it just destroys the kids of owners. 1316 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 3: You know that that come in and it's not easy. 1317 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: And so that's part one, and part two is just 1318 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 3: the nature of the economics of the game. Like when 1319 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 3: it was media and tech, I was the guy, right, 1320 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 3: you couldn't get anything by me. I knew what was 1321 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: going on. I would do shit in the league wild 1322 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 3: say don't do it, I do it. Then they start 1323 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 3: doing it, and that I had an advantage. Now the 1324 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 3: whole thing is real estate, real estate, and see, you know, 1325 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 3: and that's just not my thing. And I don't want 1326 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 3: to be in a position where I'm putting up two 1327 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 3: billion dollars to get an education on real estate and gaming, 1328 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 3: you know. And so so that was the other reason 1329 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 3: I sold. 1330 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 4: So, Mark, would you would you get back in the 1331 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 4: Entourage series again? 1332 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Mark? 1333 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 4: If it came back. 1334 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Actually, Doug Ellen put together a little something, 1335 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 3: so we'll see if it catches on that I went 1336 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 3: back to. That was so much fun. And my boy 1337 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Russ Wilson, right, he's on the Steelers. Now we did 1338 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 3: the truck. 1339 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 4: We know, Russ. Someone did hand marshawn the ball off 1340 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 4: Mark in the shop. Jesus, we really we got to 1341 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: go back to that. That was the guy upstairs conspiracy 1342 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 4: because you're living, Marshan is not just bring. 1343 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Live, let me live. Let me tell you this fresh 1344 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: you should have You should have pulled me by the 1345 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 2: you know, I mean by the collar, like, hey, I 1346 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 2: understand this football thing is is all right, but you 1347 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: should have pulled me, told me to go get a 1348 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: jump shot or something. Because when you said that one 1349 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. 1350 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Two, honey, that ship sound a little that sounds a 1351 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: little different. 1352 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: It's real money, that's for sure. 1353 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. That sounds like I'll be able to do something 1354 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 2: for my family. 1355 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do something. You know, there's still time. 1356 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: They're still tired. 1357 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 5: Oh but Mark, I gotta tell you, man, I got it, 1358 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 5: and honestly, I I what you've done. I mean, look, 1359 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 5: everybody in Collweg says want to start a bar. 1360 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: You did it. 1361 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 5: You bought an NFL. You bought an NBA team. You've 1362 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 5: got outspoken to what you believe in. 1363 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, what you've done, how you live your life, 1364 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 4: taking on big pharma. Brother, that's next level. You don't 1365 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 4: even you guys don't appreciate what Mark's doing in that space. 1366 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 5: Bro, I do, Gavin and Mark. When my dad died 1367 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 5: when I was sixteen, I said, I'm on borrowed time. 1368 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 5: And you live that way, man, and I appreciate how 1369 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 5: you've lived. You've done it the right way. You've been outspoken. Uh, 1370 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 5: it's really cool to see how you've lived and as 1371 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 5: a father and a business guy and all that has 1372 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 5: been very very impressive. Man. 1373 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, very very When I die, I. 1374 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 3: Want to come back as me. 1375 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 4: That's so good. Damn, Mike Drop, that's good. Legit, legit, 1376 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. I'm jealous. 1377 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 5: So Mark, anytime you want to get your your plane 1378 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 5: or the American. 1379 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 4: Airlines saying you want to road friends, we'll take it. 1380 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 3: We're all in Mark, We're all in elevation ceremony. When 1381 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 3: Marshawn wins Oakland, it's. 1382 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 4: All talking about Harris. I like that keeps sanity for 1383 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 4: four more years in this country. Thank you brother. Great 1384 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 4: to have you here, man, thanks for. 1385 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 3: Having me on. I really had fun. 1386 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 5: Man. 1387 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I'm going to check these out immediately. 1388 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to check them out immediately. 1389 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 3: You know how to get hold of me. 1390 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:21,479 Speaker 2: Thanks. 1391 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 4: Thanks, Mark, I appreciate it. I appreciate you brother. 1392 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 2: I'll take care