WEBVTT - Becoming A Rocket Scientist w/ Olympia LePoint

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Will Lucas and this is black Tech, Green Money.

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<v Speaker 1>Olympia the Point is an award winning rocket scientists and author.

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<v Speaker 1>By her fans, Olympia is called the new Einstein, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was named the modern day Hidden Figure by People

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<v Speaker 1>magazine and Newsweek. She spent almost a decade at Boeing

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<v Speaker 1>as a propulsion scientist f NASA programs, specializing in, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, calculating the probability of catastrophic exposing events. We

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<v Speaker 1>often hear the phrase, either jokingly or sarcastically, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>rocket science. So I asked Olympia to dispel any myths

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<v Speaker 1>or confirm any facts about how hard it is to

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<v Speaker 1>become a rocket scientist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, that's a great question that you ask. Being

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket scientist is actually not as hard as it seems,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people don't know that. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket scientist, you have an expertise in a certain area.

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<v Speaker 2>My expertise is mathematics and probability and understanding how the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers can predict a few So when you're in rocket science,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we helped build and launch NASA Space Shuttle

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<v Speaker 2>main engines and Shuttle launches, we each had our own specialty.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine was mathematics and science, and I calculated the probability

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<v Speaker 2>of catastrophic explosions within space flight. But they were also

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<v Speaker 2>chemists that could understand exactly how the oxidizers and the

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<v Speaker 2>fluids would run together and would burn appropriately. There were

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<v Speaker 2>structural integrity engineers that would look at how hard and

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<v Speaker 2>strong the metal was to ensure that it would rupture

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<v Speaker 2>us with the launch or when there was explosion to

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<v Speaker 2>cause a lift off. And there were people who would

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<v Speaker 2>sit by in mission control, including myself, that look at

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<v Speaker 2>different aspects like the turbopumps. There are people who would

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<v Speaker 2>understand how rotating machinery would work so people would have

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<v Speaker 2>a safe flight. So there's different experts in all these

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<v Speaker 2>different areas. In mind was mathematic and.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you compare that to like an orchestra, like

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<v Speaker 1>you have a bassoon player who is an expert at

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<v Speaker 1>the bassoon, and the person on you know, the flu

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<v Speaker 1>is an expert at the flu But somebody has to

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<v Speaker 1>sit above that and you know, knows all the instruments

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<v Speaker 1>and how they're supposed to fit into this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful sound. Who is that person that sits above the

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<v Speaker 1>chemist and the mathematician and the probability person and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these different people. Who has to be the most

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<v Speaker 1>you know, proficient across or is it the same type

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<v Speaker 1>of you know thing as like you know, a conductor.

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<v Speaker 2>Great question. It is the program manager. The program manager

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<v Speaker 2>at each different location would oversee how all the different

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<v Speaker 2>parts and pieces would come together, and then you would

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<v Speaker 2>have the massive program manager. Now, most of the launches

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<v Speaker 2>that have been done here in the United States have

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<v Speaker 2>been formed by Massive until recently we've seen commercial space flights.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen on the news SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic

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<v Speaker 2>that would go into certain levels of the outer space.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was NASA overseeing most of all of the

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<v Speaker 2>deep space travel, and so still to this day, NASA

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<v Speaker 2>program managers are the ones to oversee that each one

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<v Speaker 2>of the companies as well as the employees with their

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<v Speaker 2>own specialty, would come together and actually launched the engine

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<v Speaker 2>and vehicle in a safe way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you brought up that these private industry,

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<v Speaker 1>private companies is commercialization of space travel, because one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I wanted to ask you about was how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel having been at NASA. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>and how do you read the landscape of private industry

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<v Speaker 1>coming in, because I think about how, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>competition does to people who have just historically had a monopoly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it forces you to innovate. And I remember Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk saying, you know, he wanted to challenge the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that a rocket could only be used one time, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he developed ones that could be used over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. And so as somebody who's worked in this

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<v Speaker 1>field for twenty plus years, and talk to me about

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<v Speaker 1>how you read the landscape of the importance of government

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<v Speaker 1>being involved and the importance of the private sector being involved.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an equal opportunity for both. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>why I say that governing structures are the ones to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure there is safe innovation. For example, let's look at

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<v Speaker 2>something that's basic that's not rocket science. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at how a dam is built in how it holds water,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be safety regulations to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>dam is going to be safe so it doesn't break

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't take out homes and the water doesn't hurt

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<v Speaker 2>people downhill. It's the same process within aerospace. You have

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<v Speaker 2>these great companies that are creating these products, and you

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<v Speaker 2>also have to have some sort of regulatory procedure to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure or that the product is safe, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be space travel, whether it be food, whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>food and the Drug Administration, whether it be all these

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<v Speaker 2>different areas. You have to have some sort of basic

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<v Speaker 2>guideline procedures to make sure that each one of the

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<v Speaker 2>companies in any one of the areas operate to the

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<v Speaker 2>same standard. So the aerospace companies and the commercial flight

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<v Speaker 2>companies are coming out now. It's great because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the companies that are out, we've seen them contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to space travel before. There are major companies like Raytheon,

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<v Speaker 2>like Boeing, as well as the newer companies that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming out like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic

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<v Speaker 2>and Astra. These are all private sector companies that are

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<v Speaker 2>building innovation, and the United States governments looks at these

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<v Speaker 2>companies and say, hey, you're building great innovation. How can

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<v Speaker 2>we support this innovation and how can we include it

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<v Speaker 2>in our programs that we're using right now. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>this one on one opportunity with both government and private

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<v Speaker 2>sector to do things. And sometimes the private sector has

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<v Speaker 2>an ability to create things at a lower cost value.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say that they create a way to build nozzles

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<v Speaker 2>on engines. Instead of going through a three year process

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<v Speaker 2>of forging and casting all the metals, there may be

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<v Speaker 2>a printing process that's easier to do. That would be

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<v Speaker 2>a three D printing process that may take half the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time. So there's different innovations that's created through

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<v Speaker 2>private sector companies and commercial company that is extremely valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we want to understand the innovation that comes

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<v Speaker 2>from both government as well as private sector. So innovation

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<v Speaker 2>can be not only affordable, but it can also be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about what a day looks like in

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<v Speaker 1>what in your domain of rocket science? So what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of projects do you work on and what does a

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<v Speaker 1>typical day look like when you clock in? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>per se, Well, it depends.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have I've been a rocket scientist, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a professor, I've been an author, and I've been a

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<v Speaker 2>public speaker. So each day is different based on what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. I have to laugh because when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in science, and when I was doing science for nearly

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<v Speaker 2>a decade, I was sitting at a computer, crunching numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a screen, and crunching numbers looking at a screen,

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<v Speaker 2>and crunching numbers, and I was sitting down. I was

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down crunching numbers. And the time in which I

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<v Speaker 2>would get at is when I go to a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>and talk to other people who are experts and we

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<v Speaker 2>devise a way to be able to construct or inspect

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<v Speaker 2>a certain part of the engine. And that was exciting

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with people. But when I was at my desk

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<v Speaker 2>crunning numbers, it wasn't the most exciting. Exception to when

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<v Speaker 2>I could look at the math and figure out the patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, that was exciting. Everybody's different, but I am

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<v Speaker 2>more of a person who is active. I like moving around.

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<v Speaker 2>I like doing things that is not only scientific but

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<v Speaker 2>is engaging. So after spending ten years in rocket science,

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<v Speaker 2>so what I did is I laughed and I went

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<v Speaker 2>to become a math professor. So I was a math

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<v Speaker 2>professor for fourteen years. And so I was walking around,

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<v Speaker 2>moving around all the time, having to write all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>There was not one moment in which I wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>still unless they were taking a test when I was

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down proctering. But I had the ability to walk

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<v Speaker 2>and move and I could show the students the next

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<v Speaker 2>generation of the scientists, the technology specialists, the engineers, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mathematicians, how they could take this information and use

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<v Speaker 2>it for the innovation that was going to be used

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<v Speaker 2>at these large, major companies. So that day was more

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<v Speaker 2>writing and moving around. Now, as a public speaker, I

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<v Speaker 2>interface with people, and it was interesting before the pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>and after pandemic. After the pandemic was two different types

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<v Speaker 2>of situations. Before the pandemic, I would go and meet

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<v Speaker 2>with everyone and it would be great. Now after the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to make sure that people are safe and

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<v Speaker 2>people have the right safety measures, especially when we're in

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<v Speaker 2>When we were in the pandemic itself, it was really

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<v Speaker 2>a pivot point because I had to learn the technology

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<v Speaker 2>to give virtual lectures so people could understand what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on online and make it exciting for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>now that people are getting healthier after the traumatic situation

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<v Speaker 2>the entire world saw under the pandemic, we are seeing

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<v Speaker 2>an ability to really educate in more profound ways now,

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<v Speaker 2>not only in person but in online, and so that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>And as an author, I get a share to do

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<v Speaker 2>fun things like this being on your show and talk

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<v Speaker 2>and share information because being an author is just the

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<v Speaker 2>first step of the process of writing a book, because

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<v Speaker 2>when you write a book, the first step is writing it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to like market it, and the way

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<v Speaker 2>you market it is giving away as much information and

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<v Speaker 2>content as you can so people can grow from the

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<v Speaker 2>information and what you've written. So that's the exciting part

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<v Speaker 2>when I get a chance to connect with your audience

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<v Speaker 2>and answer questions and do all this fun stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to talk about education in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but before I do, you know, we often have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and tech about you know, there's opportunities for technical

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<v Speaker 1>people obviously, engineers, coders, programmers and non technical people, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I wonder before we talk about education, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are their roles for people who may not be technical

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<v Speaker 1>people in the field of you know, rocketry.

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<v Speaker 2>There are different types of people. There's different type of thinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>just like there's diversity with educational backgrounds, and just like

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<v Speaker 2>there's diversity within how much income someone has. They can

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<v Speaker 2>have very little or they can be billionaires. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can have diversity in people's heritage. Someone can be Asian,

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<v Speaker 2>someone can be African American, someone can be African, which

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<v Speaker 2>is different things. Someone can be European or Caucasian or American.

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<v Speaker 2>There's different types of ways in which people see the

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<v Speaker 2>world and based on their background, but there's also diversity

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<v Speaker 2>in thinking. People think differently. People can be of the

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<v Speaker 2>same nationality but think differently. And it's really important for

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<v Speaker 2>people to respect the differences in how we think because

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<v Speaker 2>as we can respect the differences on how we think,

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<v Speaker 2>think together as human beings would create solutions and answers.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this process of not everyone being a technical

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<v Speaker 2>minded person, that is one hundred percent great because not

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<v Speaker 2>everybody can do numbers. Not everybody can sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable dealing with a calculator. Not everybody is feeling

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable looking at engineering the prints. That's just not how

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<v Speaker 2>their mind works. But they may be a great communicator.

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<v Speaker 2>They can read the room and see someone's mannerisms and

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<v Speaker 2>be able to say that person needs help. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>are great at being able to sell. Like for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the best seller at all. If I ask

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<v Speaker 2>someone to buy something, I'm like, you can buy it,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot buy it. You can do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's not for instance, it's a great seller.

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<v Speaker 2>A great sellers well, is somebody who can read a

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<v Speaker 2>person and know exactly what they need and point to

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<v Speaker 2>in the product, what exactly works in the product that

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to help them. So that's not my gifts,

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<v Speaker 2>that's someone else's. But we each have this ability to

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<v Speaker 2>provide a contribution to an overall outcome. And this overall

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<v Speaker 2>outcome I feel as a scientist, is being able to

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<v Speaker 2>create an innovative approach for our world, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to give people answers with science, whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>finding solutions to the climate change, whether it be understanding

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<v Speaker 2>how to keep people's information and faces safe and artificial

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence technology, whether it be trying to understand how quantum

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<v Speaker 2>communications in the future can help keep data secure at

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals and at state departments and governmental agencies, and the

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<v Speaker 2>electrical companies and grids across the world. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>the with each of our diverse ways of thinking to

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<v Speaker 2>contribute to a solution that's going to help humanity. So

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be just a technical thinker, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can provide your skills in the way that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to help people. And that's the most important part.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that education. This I know this is close

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<v Speaker 1>near and dear to your heart. And I wonder. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on social media and every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while you'll see like a math problem and it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like it'll seem obvious, and then there's like a million

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<v Speaker 1>different answers for the same math problem in the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody believes they know the right answer, but everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>got a different answer. And then there's you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>there's math problems I've seen on social media that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>explain how to do it, and then it'll show how

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<v Speaker 1>other nations teach how to do that same thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>we wonder why we seem so backwards in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the same time, we are near the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States of thirty five industrialized countries nations

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<v Speaker 1>in math proficiency. What are we getting wrong about how

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<v Speaker 1>we teach math?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Boy, whoa, that's a good question. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a hot question. I love that question. That's a good question. Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do. You know what, I wish we had

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<v Speaker 2>educational officials all from all across the world and across

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<v Speaker 2>this nation listening to this particular podcasty, I can break

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<v Speaker 2>it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's break it down. Let's bring it down.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't address the fear behind mathematics. They address the

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<v Speaker 2>answer when people fear certain situations. It doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>it's mathematics. And I talk about this in my first book, Mathaphobia,

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<v Speaker 2>How you can overcome your math fears and become a

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<v Speaker 2>rocket scientist. It doesn't matter if you're fearing mathematics or

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<v Speaker 2>you're experiencing fear because you're in a home where your

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<v Speaker 2>parents are getting divorced and you're a kid. Same fear,

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<v Speaker 2>it's shutting down the frontal brain loads. Here's the problem

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<v Speaker 2>with fear. When it shuts down the frontal brain loads,

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<v Speaker 2>it stops someone from solving problems in mathematics, mathematics, and

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<v Speaker 2>science stems specifically science technology injuring mathematics requires our frontal

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<v Speaker 2>brain loads to transport a problem into a solution. If

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<v Speaker 2>our frontal brain lobes are not working due to fear,

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<v Speaker 2>because fear turns off this part of the brain, and

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<v Speaker 2>fear is part of the reptilian part, and it shuts

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<v Speaker 2>down our creative problem solving, which is a part of

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<v Speaker 2>our frontal brain loads. And that's also when we get older,

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<v Speaker 2>is considered the executive decision making portion of our brain.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we experience fear, our brain shuts down. And

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<v Speaker 2>when our brain shuts down, it can't do a math problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're looking we had a child starting to

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<v Speaker 2>fail their math, it's because they're experiencing fear in their life.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't give the child tools to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to communicate themselves so they can address the fear

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<v Speaker 2>and remove it from their brain at an early age,

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<v Speaker 2>they become stumped in mathematics. They become stumped in mathematics.

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<v Speaker 2>When they become stumped in mathematics, it affects the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of their education. The quickest way to know if someone

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<v Speaker 2>is a child is having really bad problems somewhere in

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<v Speaker 2>their life is look at their mascors. Their mascores are

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<v Speaker 2>the first indication that a child needs help because they're

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<v Speaker 2>having trouble mentally processing a solution and finding an answer

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<v Speaker 2>to a situation. Math is the first place where you

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<v Speaker 2>see that. So in our country, we do not have

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<v Speaker 2>the best mental health access and priority, and it's across

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<v Speaker 2>the board. It doesn't doesn't matter if you're white, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if you're black, it doesn't matter if you're Asian.

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<v Speaker 2>This country needs to increase its knowledge and understanding and

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<v Speaker 2>respect of mental health when we can increase the ability

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<v Speaker 2>for young people to identify their feelings, how they're experiencing things,

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<v Speaker 2>and to identify when they're are falling into one of

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<v Speaker 2>these characters where they get stuck. And I write about

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<v Speaker 2>this in my first book. When people get stuck, they

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<v Speaker 2>turn into Quincy the quitter. They'll quit even before they

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<v Speaker 2>even try. Donnaga overdoer. They'll try and try and still

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<v Speaker 2>miss the mark. Samuel the struggler. He thinks that his

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<v Speaker 2>approach no one respects, and people think he's done. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Crystal the criticize will blame everybody for her pro

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<v Speaker 2>performance because she doesn't know how to take ownership of things.

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<v Speaker 2>They students learn that at an early age, and if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't find a way to correct that type of

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<v Speaker 2>mental thinking at a very early age, it extends into adulthood,

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<v Speaker 2>where that adulthood makes someone think not only oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not good at mathematics, they'll also think I am not

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<v Speaker 2>worth trying to succeed in a certain area. So I

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<v Speaker 2>become a business owner, So I become a scientist, So

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<v Speaker 2>I become a podcast host, so I become an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a full spectrum of different careers. That people can

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<v Speaker 2>go on to. So when we address the psychological issues

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<v Speaker 2>that people are facing, we then clear out the mind

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<v Speaker 2>to turn off the fear, and then we turn back

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<v Speaker 2>on the frontal brain loads that are responsible for effective

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<v Speaker 2>decision making. And it doesn't matter if it's effective decision

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<v Speaker 2>making where's a child or if it is an executive.

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<v Speaker 2>When we turn off the fear, we turn on solutions

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<v Speaker 2>in our brain, and that is how we provide answers

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<v Speaker 2>to society.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's great. And so I was thinking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, going through my math journey, and I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that math is a lot like you know, putting

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<v Speaker 1>wheels on a car, like if you or even stacking

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<v Speaker 1>blocks like if you miss a principle in the early

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentals of math, it's very hard to get math at

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<v Speaker 1>higher levels because the principle, the foundation is not there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you don't get math, it's hard to get subtraction.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't get subtraction, it's hard to get multiplication

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<v Speaker 1>if like and these things keep building on themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when you think about, you know, to your point

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<v Speaker 1>of helping people mentally in their socialized you know, removing

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<v Speaker 1>trauma and et cetera. And life hasn't stopped though, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm progressing through grades, and I missed some

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentals back two three years ago, pick a number ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do how do or I'm an adult now

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't really get it, you know in those

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<v Speaker 1>school age years. How do you fix the car while

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving? And you only got three wheels?

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<v Speaker 2>By this one concept that I want everyone to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>it's never too late to learn. It's never too late

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<v Speaker 2>to learn. And I know that from my own personal experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to tell you why I failed algebra.

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<v Speaker 2>I failed geometry. I felt calculous and I felt chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>in school. And I laugh about it now because I

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<v Speaker 2>eventually had to take the classes over, struggled and take

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<v Speaker 2>the classes over again. Then I finally got it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I got it because I sat down with someone

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<v Speaker 2>who was willing to help me understand it. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was I think I was sixteen years old when I

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<v Speaker 2>finally started understanding algebra.

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<v Speaker 1>Well me before you continue, because I want to stop

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<v Speaker 1>you because you just said something very salient. Is most

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<v Speaker 1>math issues with children about the teacher, their ability to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Reasons I write about this in my book, and these

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<v Speaker 2>are phenomenal questions. It's due to three reasons. The parent

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<v Speaker 2>him or herself that has their own fear that they

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<v Speaker 2>give off to their child through a math teacher who

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<v Speaker 2>may not be supportive or may say some things that

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<v Speaker 2>would negatively affect a student. Or it's by the system

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<v Speaker 2>itself that doesn't give the proper structure or the foundation

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<v Speaker 2>for someone to go far in science, technology, engineering, mathematics.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the three root sources of why students

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<v Speaker 2>do poorly in mathematics. And for me, my mother had

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<v Speaker 2>a math fear. She was scared of mathematics, and she unknowingly,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless her soul, because she really tried. She really

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<v Speaker 2>truly tried to help me as a single mom. She

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<v Speaker 2>was scared, she was really scared of mathematics. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing her take a math class when I went

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<v Speaker 2>back to which when I was like fifteen or sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I started to taking a man class and it was

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<v Speaker 2>with doctor Lee, and so she took me to class

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<v Speaker 2>with her. And when she took me to class with her,

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher himself helped me with calculus. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I understood algebra because I started actually doing

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<v Speaker 2>trigon alentry and calculus and asking him questions because my

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<v Speaker 2>mother was taking me to class, her beginning algebra class

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<v Speaker 2>when she was at the community college, and that process

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<v Speaker 2>made me start thinking, maybe there's stuff I need to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I sat down with a teacher that actually

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<v Speaker 2>spent time tutoring me, and that's when I realized I

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<v Speaker 2>had the foundation. Now all those classes that I failed,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one class that I didn't take over. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a kick off this. There's one class I failed

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't take over. It was algebra fundamental with algebra.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a spiritual person, and I truly believe God

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<v Speaker 2>was helping me because the class that I started teaching,

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<v Speaker 2>the first class I started teaching on an ongoing basis

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<v Speaker 2>after I left Rocket Science, was an algebra class to adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So for ten years I looked at the information that

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<v Speaker 2>I failed when I was younger, and when I would

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<v Speaker 2>look at the book, I would see it and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what I did wrong when I was

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen and seventeen that I didn't get right. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was like I could know what was going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the student's brains. Because I was there. I know how

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<v Speaker 2>they were thinking because I did that too. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the pleasure I had, was helping adults learn basic algebra,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was one of the most fulfilling parts of

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<v Speaker 2>my career where I had the ability to help people

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<v Speaker 2>learn and it didn't matter your age, because you can

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<v Speaker 2>learn at any age.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a big proponent of the pursuit of

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<v Speaker 1>higher education, and we're having a real strong conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>our social discourse about the value of a college degree,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to get your thoughts on how we

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<v Speaker 1>either change our minds about it or how do we

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<v Speaker 1>increase the value of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am slightly biased. I am biased for a higher education.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why I am a big supporter of

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<v Speaker 2>higher education is because I am a professor. I am

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<v Speaker 2>a professor, and I recently started teaching at my campus

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<v Speaker 2>that I graduated from. I'm starting at teaching research methods

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<v Speaker 2>in the Africana Studies Department at California State University, northrich

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<v Speaker 2>I am honored because I am going to be helping

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<v Speaker 2>the department as well as students understand how statistics and

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<v Speaker 2>information goes into making sure that systems are equitable and

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<v Speaker 2>fair and diverse for people of various backgrounds of color.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got here because the fact that I came

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<v Speaker 2>from an environment South central Los Angeles where education wasn't promoted,

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<v Speaker 2>And when I went to other areas and was busted

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<v Speaker 2>into other and other school districts, I saw how economically

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<v Speaker 2>different these areas were and the type of expectations that

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<v Speaker 2>were placed on the students to succeed. Growing up in

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<v Speaker 2>South central Los Angeles, there wasn't that expectation on any

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<v Speaker 2>one of the students that were in that area. But

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<v Speaker 2>yet when I was busted over into this other area,

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<v Speaker 2>that expectation was on them. For You're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to college, You're going to succeed, You're going to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to become a business owner, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>become a lawyer, you're going to become a doctor. You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to provide your skills and expertise to help humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the concept that was instilled in younger people

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<v Speaker 2>at that age when I was busting to that area.

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<v Speaker 2>So being able to objectively look at the different communities,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that an education was the ticket to success.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's different types of education. I believe in higher education,

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<v Speaker 2>which is at a four year university, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>also educate yourself in a trade, whether it is understanding

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<v Speaker 2>how to do construction, whether it is understanding how to

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<v Speaker 2>do hair and nail. You have to educate yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>a way to properly do things. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn out the way that you would like it to.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what area you're emphasizing or specializing in,

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<v Speaker 2>but you do have to know about it, and you

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<v Speaker 2>do have to know about it by learning about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And why you learn about it is you go and

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<v Speaker 2>you hopefully can enroll in a community college, which is

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<v Speaker 2>affordable for most people, thankfully in California and other places.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to a community college, you can get certain courses.

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<v Speaker 2>You can even finish your high school diploma through taking

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<v Speaker 2>community college classes. So I'm a big person to really

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<v Speaker 2>promote education because it changed my life. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 2>about anyone else's life. It changed your mind, and so

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<v Speaker 2>as a result, I'm very supportive of education because it

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<v Speaker 2>transforms the way that we think. The more that we

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<v Speaker 2>can renew our mind far there we can go on life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I truly believe education can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I get approached by a lot of parents who want

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<v Speaker 1>their kids to find careers and technology and your path

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<v Speaker 1>and science and maths started when you were six, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had some exposure to things, you know, to rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what are some great things parents can do

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<v Speaker 1>with young children to help inspire that sort of learning

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<v Speaker 1>and desire earlier?

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<v Speaker 2>Just thinking about that off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that they can do is make science

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<v Speaker 2>and technology real. When I was six years old, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Jet Proportion Laboratory and that's here in California,

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<v Speaker 2>in Pasadena, and there I saw the jet engines, and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the rockets, and I went to their mission

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<v Speaker 2>control room and I saw pictures of men launching our O. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that what I was looking at were

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<v Speaker 2>men launching rockets. They didn't have my same skin color,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did not have they did not have femininity

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<v Speaker 2>in the photo. And I looked at it and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought to myself, I didn't see that. All I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was science. All I saw was the ability to do

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<v Speaker 2>something great and launch something and explode something into the

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<v Speaker 2>air and help humanity. That's what I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what I decided I had no idea the

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<v Speaker 2>challenges I was going to face. If parents could introduce

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<v Speaker 2>their kids to something like that early on, that will

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<v Speaker 2>forever help set the foundation of positive seeds in a

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<v Speaker 2>child's mind. Those seeds will grow and will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to fight off the depression and the discouragement that they

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<v Speaker 2>have as they're growing up, because those seeds that are

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<v Speaker 2>planted in a child's mind early in life helps them

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<v Speaker 2>see how they can contribute to something that is real.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have the ability to take a child

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<v Speaker 2>to be your nearest airport, show the child how airplanes fly,

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<v Speaker 2>how they land, do basic think. Take them to a museum,

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<v Speaker 2>a science museum, have them look at the different anatomy

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<v Speaker 2>of the human body and how muscles are from. Take

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<v Speaker 2>them to things that will inspire them. If you think

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<v Speaker 2>that your child's going to be a musician, take them

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<v Speaker 2>to the Take them to a symphony and learn how them.

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<v Speaker 2>Teach them to be quiet so they can listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the music. These are all the different ways to inspire

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<v Speaker 2>a young person and put a positive seat of growth

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<v Speaker 2>in their brain. The second idea that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 2>is giving positive reinforcement. I was just watching it was

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<v Speaker 2>Joel ostein. It was a sermon that he did online

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<v Speaker 2>and he was talking about the comedian Steve Harvey. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was really interesting when I heard this story. He

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<v Speaker 2>said that Steve Harvey, when he was a really young person,

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a comedian. And when he told his

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<v Speaker 2>teacher that, the teacher told the boy, which at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>which was Steve Harvey as a young child, is anyone

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<v Speaker 2>else in your family on TV? And he said no.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she says, go back and write something else down there,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was something that was very discouraging to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But his father, from the story that was sared in

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<v Speaker 2>the sermon, his father came and said, don't listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. You can be anything that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be. That note and keep your plans and put

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<v Speaker 2>it first in your drawers, so every time you open

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<v Speaker 2>up the drawer, you'll be able to see your vision.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Steve Harvey did. So throughout his homelessness,

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<v Speaker 2>throughout all these different type of situations that he faced,

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<v Speaker 2>he kept that in the back of his head, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm going to be on TV, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on TV. And one of the first opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>he had was to be on the Apollo Show. If

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<v Speaker 2>any I may be dating myself, let's tell you I

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Apollo Show, but Erry, But any case, he

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<v Speaker 2>did it. And so that that story goes to the

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<v Speaker 2>point of the second point, which is you have to

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<v Speaker 2>reinforce young people with positive words of encouragement that they

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<v Speaker 2>can achieve what they want to achieve if they are

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<v Speaker 2>persistent and consistent. And the last thing I would recommend

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<v Speaker 2>to do is educate yourself and provide ways for your

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>child to be educated. Now, I grew up in south

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<v Speaker 2>central Los Angeles in a gang in the nineteen eighties,

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>so it was like gangs all over everywhere. There were

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<v Speaker 2>crack houses everywhere, and it was just really terrible. And

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>my mother found a way for me to be busted

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<v Speaker 2>into this other school system, and through that education, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a chance to see that it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 2>color someone is or what their background is per se

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<v Speaker 2>with ethnicity or their heritage. It matters on what information

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<v Speaker 2>is being fed into their brain at an early age.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that concept, you want to feed the brain

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<v Speaker 2>of young people so they have the foundation of being

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<v Speaker 2>able to build upon in the future. I happened to

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<v Speaker 2>learn science I wasn't necessarily good at it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I happened to learn science and I just

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<v Speaker 2>stuck with it, I just stuck with it and stuck

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<v Speaker 2>with it, and stuck with it and stuck with it

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<v Speaker 2>and stuck with it until eventually I'm like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is clicking. We have to place kids in an environment

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<v Speaker 2>where they're exposed to healthy education and keep exposing them

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<v Speaker 2>to it, keep putting them in study groups, have them

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<v Speaker 2>meet with their friends at a safe location that is

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<v Speaker 2>a public location where they can study together. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure, and I always want to say for parents,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure and keep your children protected. Not all parents

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<v Speaker 2>have the same philosophies or ideas as you have, but

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<v Speaker 2>the kids themselves can learn from one another because they're kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you can always do is make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they're incredible environment and public type of settings. To always

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<v Speaker 2>keep your kids safe so that when they learn information,

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<v Speaker 2>they can learn it freely without any fear.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I have last one hour have is your

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<v Speaker 1>book answers at least to the science of attracting what

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you want. It explores a lot about you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>science of attraction, and I wonder about how your experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>education and expertise in rockets and space might have informed

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that that sort of concept of attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. I did a talk about the book Answers

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<v Speaker 2>on Least to the Science of Attracting what you want,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's if you go to answers on LEAs dot

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<v Speaker 2>com slash live Lectures, it's my page and the last

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<v Speaker 2>lecture you see on the page is the talk. So

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<v Speaker 2>I highly encourage you to go to the page. It's complimentary.

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch talk and the talk I did with

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<v Speaker 2>California State University of Northbridge to produce that so people

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<v Speaker 2>can have free education online. So the talk basic deals

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<v Speaker 2>with understanding quantum deciding, and basically what quantum deciding is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the ability to make your decisions count. There's six

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<v Speaker 2>different decisions that we make on a daily basis that

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<v Speaker 2>will attract opportunities to us. And they are making decisions

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<v Speaker 2>with your faith, how you see your purpose in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>making decisions with your identity, with who you choose to

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<v Speaker 2>be in all situations, making decisions with your intent, how

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<v Speaker 2>you choose to impact and influence environments instead of let

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<v Speaker 2>the environment change you. The next decision is based on

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<v Speaker 2>your learning how do you take in new information and

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the old information that is no longer accurate or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe fake news. The next is your resources. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you take your resources and multiply it so what you

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<v Speaker 2>think is not enough will be more them enough. And

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<v Speaker 2>then how do you make decisions based on your love

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and time? How do you love yourself and love other

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<v Speaker 2>people so you create positive relationships in the present and

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<v Speaker 2>in the future. So these are the decisions, the six

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that count towards attracting opportunities that come to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we attract opportunities that come to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not always easy to make these decisions. If it

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<v Speaker 2>were easy, I'd be a millionaire already, but that's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>The realistic part of it is we have to continuously

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<v Speaker 2>make wise decisions on a daily basis to keep attracting

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities so we grow to where we're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>in life. And what allow me to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>create this just groundbreaking decision making? Science based method was

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<v Speaker 2>three things It was working at in aerospace because when

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<v Speaker 2>I was working as an aerospace engineer, I used mathematics

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<v Speaker 2>and science to calculate the probability of explosions, So I

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<v Speaker 2>actually had to see in the future before an event

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<v Speaker 2>would happen, and then come back and make the decisions

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<v Speaker 2>in engineering and help encourage other people to make the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions in engineering. So the explosions wouldn't lose the vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>or cause people to lose their lives, but the explosions

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<v Speaker 2>would go down the plume and the explosion would happen

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<v Speaker 2>in the right places, so it could be a launch,

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<v Speaker 2>and it could be a safe launch. But I had

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<v Speaker 2>to see two different futures in front of me and

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<v Speaker 2>pick the one in which you were going to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>And the epiphany moment happened. What if we do that

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<v Speaker 2>with our own lives? What if we're able to pick

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<v Speaker 2>the future that we want to go to instead of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking we have no options? And I started thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>that in my own life. Well did I use that

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<v Speaker 2>in my own life? And that's when the epiphany came,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I did. I had several different futures that existed

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<v Speaker 2>from my own personal life because I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>this really povery stricken area. There are three futures that

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<v Speaker 2>existed for me. I could have been a victim to

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<v Speaker 2>this surrounding area and or I could have been a dropout,

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<v Speaker 2>or I could have gone into science. When I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the picture of the men launching rockets when I was

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<v Speaker 2>six years old, and I unknowingly chose the future where

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<v Speaker 2>I could launch rockets, I didn't realize what I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing was picking my future, and how I would pick

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<v Speaker 2>the future was through my decision making to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>We each have this ability to pick our future by

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<v Speaker 2>making decisions that are in a present. And the way

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>we make effective decisions in the present is by seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the future that we want, looking back to the past

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what are the values and the lessons

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<v Speaker 2>we learned through our most toughest situations, and I outline

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<v Speaker 2>how to identify those six different tough situations that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is faced in my book, and from identifying your values

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<v Speaker 2>and finding out the lessons that you learned in past situations,

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<v Speaker 2>how to talk to yourself in the past and talk

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself in the future, so at this very moment,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make a decision that will get you to

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 2>where you need to go. That is que and deciding.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a scientist and I love to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>things are really solid. I like to make sure there's facts.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to make sure is detail. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that what I say is valid. So what

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<v Speaker 2>I did is I looked at all the science that

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<v Speaker 2>proved how this is possible, and that included Albert Einstein's

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.760
<v Speaker 2>quantum entanglement theory of how the past, president, and the future

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 2>are all interconnected in a way in which deals with

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>quantum physics. I looked at this with NASA's teleportation discovery

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that happened in twenty twenty when it created long distance

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>teleportation to the future, which was to the space station.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was hologram technology where they had to actually

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<v Speaker 2>see in the future and project in the future before

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 2>it actually happened. And that was the science that was

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<v Speaker 2>used with NASA there. And then I also used my background,

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>which is my mother is Native American. So with the

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>understanding of the principles of how my mother and my

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>mother's family understood how energy works. Realizing that we have

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>decision making that literally changes the energy of situations and

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 2>the energy of our lives. And so when I peered

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<v Speaker 2>that with the science and peered that with the energy

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<v Speaker 2>of how atoms work and how the energy of how

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 2>our planets rotate around the Sun, there was this universal

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<v Speaker 2>story which is we each have this energy that in

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<v Speaker 2>this power, I call it the power, the power that

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<v Speaker 2>comes from our decision making. It's no superstitious thing. This

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<v Speaker 2>is real. We have the ability to make powerful decisions

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to change the course of time, but we

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 2>have to own it. So that is what I learned

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<v Speaker 2>when I wrote my third book, Answers. I reached to

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<v Speaker 2>the science of attracting. What we want is that we

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<v Speaker 2>each had this power for decision making capability, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>up to us to make the sixth decisions that count.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Tech Green Money is a production the Blavity Afrotech

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<v Speaker 1>on the Black Effect Podcast Network and i Hied Media,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's produced by Morgan Debonne and me Well Lucas,

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<v Speaker 1>with additional production support by Sarah Ergon and Rose McLucas.

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<v Speaker 1>Special thank you to Michael Davis, Vanessa Siroundo, and Maya Moldrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn more about my guess. The Other Tech Disructor is

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