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Speaker 2: All the work, all the talk, all the handicapping is done.

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Speaker 1: It's time for history. They are all in line. We're

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Speaker 1: ready for the time. They're off in the Breakness.

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Speaker 3: Thank another two legs more back to win win wind

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Speaker 3: on the turn, beginning.

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Speaker 2: To pick up drive near the back of the pack

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Speaker 2: as the field turns for home, any perch do and

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Speaker 2: opening on the other side's trying first.

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Speaker 1: Drive as they come to the final for.

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Speaker 4: Long get fedling on what proved on to the line.

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Speaker 1: And a possible result here Welsh that Freakness.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to the Action Network Podcast for your

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Speaker 2: Preakness Best Bets edition, presented by Twin Spires. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Brendan Glasheen, joined today by two horse racing experts delivering

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Speaker 2: their favorite bets for the one and forty seventh preakdne

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Speaker 2: is taking place Saturday in Baltimore, Maryland. Great to have

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Pond back Action Network Editor and also the Parlay

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Speaker 2: Queen Monique Vague.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you both joining us again. You are great.

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Speaker 2: Covering the Kentucky Derby for us a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to your breakdown here. Monique will start with

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Speaker 2: you when you look at the field and look at

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Speaker 2: horses and gates and all of that jazz, how are

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Speaker 2: you going about making a betting card for Preakness.

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Speaker 4: So Preakness is always an interesting race in general because

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Speaker 4: you have a lot of those horses that opt totizer,

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Speaker 4: skip out on the Derby or to have enough points

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Speaker 4: So that's definitely something to factor in. There are quite

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Speaker 4: a few of them which I know are going to

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Speaker 4: be garnering some type of betting support early voting. The

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Speaker 4: one that really kind of catches my eye in terms

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Speaker 4: of a fresh face. And then you have the other

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Speaker 4: ones that won a different route. Secret Oath. We saw

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Speaker 4: her in the Kentucky Oaks. She was dominant. She's going

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Speaker 4: to take a lot of betting support in here. But

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Speaker 4: as for post positions, go again similar to like the Derby,

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Speaker 4: with the field a smaller field in here. Usually I

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Speaker 4: kind of like courses at a forwardly placed a similar

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Speaker 4: don't think anyone drew too poorly, so no post position

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Speaker 2: Jerry what do you got for us in terms of

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Speaker 2: how you look at the field and basically what you

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Speaker 2: learned from last time out? Of course, Rich Strike, the

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Speaker 2: winner of the Derby Kentucky Derby, will not be taking

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Speaker 1: But what do you have forut Jeremy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think Monique and I were pretty

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Speaker 5: on point in handicapping the Derby. Outside of horse number

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Speaker 5: twenty one from the also eligible list, getting in the

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Speaker 5: mix and getting a dream ride from Sonny Leone, a

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Speaker 5: lot of things had to go right in that race,

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Speaker 5: and they went right. So having him out of the

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Speaker 5: race is tough. You know, no Triple Crome winner this time,

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Speaker 5: but obviously some new faces some old faces here and

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Speaker 5: you know, not to copy Monique again. We did not

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Speaker 5: join forces on this beforehand, but I like early voting.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna break out of the five posts for Chad

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Speaker 5: Brown and jockey Jose Ortiz. He's coming off a second

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Speaker 5: place finish in the Wood Memorial of the Modonagle. He

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Speaker 5: So I think there was a smart move on on

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Speaker 5: Chad Brown's on Chad Browns behalf just the fact that

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Speaker 5: he did this in twenty seventeen, he skipped the Derby

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Speaker 5: So he knows this kind of move. It's kind of

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Speaker 5: you don't like this kind of a layoff, but you know,

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Speaker 5: if it's gonna be somebody that's gonna bring a horse

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Speaker 5: think that's the horse to to really catch an eye on.

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Speaker 5: I think Epicenter is still the best in the field. However,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna bounce.

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Speaker 5: Horses bounce just like humans. You're gonna have a bad

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Speaker 5: day at the office, right he ran a game second

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Speaker 5: She is legitimately going to be a top three pick

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Speaker 5: and I would not be surprised if he won the race.

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Speaker 1: As far as you know.

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Speaker 2: Of course, when you compare it to the Derby, and

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Speaker 1: Monique, how are you looking at.

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Speaker 2: Long shot horses and how does it compare to how

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Speaker 4: I mean with the Preakness A lot of the times

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Speaker 4: so epicenter. I have to go back in this one's

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest kind of outside of obviously being fresh,

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Speaker 4: And I mean the only one that I think could

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Speaker 3: She's the filly. She's going to take a lot of support.

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Speaker 2: That you mentioned a creative minister who has you know,

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Speaker 2: untapped potentials, some previous experience at Churchill Downs.

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Speaker 1: Secret Oath a horse we've discussed quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: And Jeremy, you know, on the subject of early voting,

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Speaker 5: Think I think it's gonna be top heavy in terms

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Speaker 5: early voting in epicenter. I think they're gonna be stacked one, two, three.

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Speaker 5: I doubt that's gonna happen. I think everyone's gonna hammer

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Speaker 5: on the number one horse simplification. Six to one finished

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Speaker 5: Now this is a whole likes to be fortally poorly placed.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be forwardly placed. I think in this race

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Speaker 5: I don't see him. He's not a horse that's gonna

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Speaker 5: So if there's a value on horses sitting at six

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Speaker 5: And if you're looking for a true long shot, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go to the number nine, Skippy Longstocking.

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Speaker 1: It's a hell of a name, but uh.

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Speaker 5: Trained by Safie Jokes Joseph Jr. Junior Alvaradawa Board finished

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Speaker 5: early voting in Modonacle, not in Edward, but early obviously

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Speaker 5: Modonaga won the race. Maybe he's again a fresh horse,

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Speaker 5: your knees, kind of like I was. We were pushing

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Speaker 5: You know what, And I still think that horse is

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Speaker 5: gonna probably be around in the Belmont. That's another horse

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Speaker 5: like Skippy Longstopping. Maybe that wood memorial is going to

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: Skippy is still getting experience, and you just wonder at

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Speaker 1: Okay, back to the show before we wrap.

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Speaker 2: Want to get to best bets to bet Preakness this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Monique will start with you, then we'll go to Jermy.

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Speaker 3: They say, keep it simple.

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Speaker 4: I feel like one of these races, especially as Jeremy

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Speaker 4: and I kind of share the same sentiment with the

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Speaker 4: top three horses, secret out, I think is obviously someone's

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Speaker 4: going to take support, someone warranting of some serious consideration.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just very much so on Epicenter. He had

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Speaker 4: Trip in the derby, look like he was he was

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Speaker 4: going to be so tough to pass, And to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Know Joel Rosario saw the horse coming up the inside.

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Speaker 4: I know given the way the truck was playing out

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Speaker 4: you didn't really want to be inside at all. And

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Speaker 4: this horse made what was like a video game type

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Speaker 4: on view, absolutely insane close from rich strike in there.

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Speaker 4: But I thought Epicenter did everything right in order to

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Speaker 4: try and win that race, and I thought he should have.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be positioned just off the speed.

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Speaker 4: I think the race is gonna pan out perfectly, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna have that perfect setup once again

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Speaker 4: in here, so he's gonna be really tough.

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Speaker 3: But again that short turnaround doesn't discern me all that much.

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Speaker 1: So keeping it simple with him caremy. You're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: a simple approach as well.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it simple as well. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: flip it. I'm gonna go with early voting. I just

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Speaker 5: think that Chad Brown angle skipping the derby, coming in

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Speaker 5: with a fresher horse, who can get this distance. I'm

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Speaker 5: a big o' Jose Ortez fan. I just think at

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Speaker 5: some point this horse, Epicenter, he will he will bounce.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it won't be this race.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna use him in my exotics I like, I

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Speaker 5: like simplification, early voting, epicenter and secret oath in an

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Speaker 5: exact box. I think you can put them all together

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Speaker 5: in a big number. You're probably gonna have that combination,

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go with early voting across the war

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Speaker 5: as my topic, You're just getting a better value if

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Speaker 5: you finish his top three. You know time, If you

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Speaker 5: finish the second, I'm gonna get money for second and third,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get my money back. Basically, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a profit. If he wins, then

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Speaker 5: we're in a better position. But I'm gonna stick with

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Speaker 5: early voting and hope he can pull off the win.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, well, great work as always, you guys are great

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Speaker 2: during the Derby and looking forward to Preakness this weekend. Again,

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Speaker 2: you can find America's best racing handicap or better known

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Speaker 2: as Parlay Queen Monique Vague on social does a great

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Speaker 2: job helping us out this time of year horse racing

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Speaker 2: at the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Monique and Jeremy, you as.

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Speaker 2: Well does a great job Action Racing out of their

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Pond. You can find him at Jeremy Pond on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 2: This week, everybody on the Action Network Podcast, Your Preakness

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Speaker 2: Betting preview for Jeremy Pond, Monique Vaue, Brendan glass Sheen.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you next time on the Action Network Podcast