1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up? Where are you? Where are 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: you right now? I'm hearing some like stuff in the background. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Oh it needed me. I accidentally touched my cheek. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh hello, yeah, hey, I can what's know? What's up? Man? 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: What's going on? Where are you right now? You sound 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: like you're at a place. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at a hospital right now. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: You're at a hospital right now? Are you working there? 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Or are you dying? 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm a friend of somebody who's dying. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, dear, I. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Guess almost died, almost died. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: They're good now, Okay, that's just a big difference this. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Are they dying? Well, I guess we're all dying. But 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: are they well? How are you your friends? 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh, they're good now. They had like a tear in 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: their brain from a car accident that happened years ago. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: And then oh yet super stressed recently and had like 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: a seizure. 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh good now they're chilling now, yeah, they're chilling now. Okay, 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: what what's your relationship to them? How do you know 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: this person? 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Oh? I'm dating their daughter. 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Oh, this is your this is your girlfriend's father, mom, mother, 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: This is your girlfriend's mom. Yeah, and how's she she's 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: doing okay, yeah, yeah. 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: It happened like a couple of days ago. They're just 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: what is it? The dad asked to have her over 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: like an extra day or two, so they're observing her, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: and she's. 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Going, all right, all right, cool, how's your girlfriend? How's 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: your girlfriend? I'm I'm here's the thing, and here I 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: guess why I'm I am going to assume that I 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: guess it's easy to assume that your girlfriend's mom is 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: doing okay, because if she wasn't, I'm going to assume 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: you're a good enough boyfriend that you wouldn't be on 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the phone with the therapy gecko in this moment if 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: your girlfriend's mom was in horrible pain right now. 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's she's doing wonderful. Okay, my girlfriend, she 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: was trusted first, but she's you know, cause she's all 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: stabilized now and thinks they're good yesterday. But yeah, so 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: it should be all right, should be all. 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: Right for now? 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: For now? 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Is your girlfriend there with you in the hospital? 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: She is? Actually? 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, where where is? Where are you are you in 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: like a hallway or are you in the hospital room? 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Like where are you taking this phone call from? 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm in I'm in a hallway that's like a cross 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: from their room. 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: M okay, okay, what are you How long have you 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: been at this hospital? For so far. 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: Personally it's been like a what time are they in it? 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I'd say like two and a half hours. 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, well well let's well let me do this. 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: What's your name, by. 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: The way, Angel? 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Angel? 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Well Angel? I mean we could keep just chit chatting, 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: but uh, I guess before we do that, I'll ask 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: you if there's anything in particular that you called in 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: to talk about. 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I've got I've got two things I'll that 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: you choose. They both have like a bit of context. 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: When I was seven, I got legally kidnapped by my 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: grandparents mm hmm. And then there's I financially supported two 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: people for about four years to find out recently that 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: apparently like halfway through they cheated on me the entire time. 71 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, we got we gotta all. 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Right, Well, well talk to me here. What's the most 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: What's I'm curious? I mean about your life presently. I 74 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: guess which of these things is more present for you. 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: I'd probably have to say the getting cheated on and say, 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: listen me with like an eight point four thousand dollars 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 2: bill for the apartment. 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: Jeez. 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean like I worked it out, you know, 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: just got to deal with the bill. 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I suppose, uh yeah, man, what happened? 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Ah? So, like, oh man, starting in Colorado, I suppose 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: went from Colorado, we moved to Oregon. And I've known 84 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: this lady, this chick name since I was like fourteen. 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna bleep that maybe we're gonna bleep that we're 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna call her, uh, Lorraine so that everyone can assume 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: that you're dating an eighty five year old woman. 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Lorae, you're right, You're right, Lorette. 89 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: So I've known Lorene since I was like fourteen, and 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: was it. We started officially dating like seventeen. We move 91 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: out together and like first six months is all right, 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: she's hold them down a job, you know, she's doing 93 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: all right. I meet some of her friends, her friends, 94 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: and I we all move out to an apartment together. 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: We do that for like six months, and the original 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: plan was like I was gonna move to Maine with 97 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: Larat and they were like, no, what's uh, Let's go 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: with the roommates in the Oregon because one of the roommates. Oh, 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: grandma had like dementia and they moved her Grandma of 100 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: the Oregon and she was like, you know, my mom 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: will pay for it. She's well off. She's got like 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: what is it called, like dead people money inheritance. There 103 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: you go. So we're like, okay, you know, I don't 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: really know where we're going to get, no plan. Like 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: I know, I was iffy on it, but I was like, 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: all right, you know, if you want to do it, Loraine, 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: you got this. So we move on over there and 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: maybe around like twenty twenty one, twenty two, I think 109 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and I was one of the first 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: ones to get a job. Lorraine almost the entire time 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: did not have a job, so doesn't have a job. 112 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: But we're still like working through it. And there's one 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: time I'm like, hey, like Lorraine, I'm not gonna lie 114 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: you do they need to like make rent by the 115 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: end of this month or no, I give it like 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: three months. I was like, in three months you kind 117 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 2: of need to like start making rent. 118 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: Or how how old are you guys? At this point 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: I was. 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: I'd like to say eighteen or nineteen. 121 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: Oh wow, geez, So how old is she at the 122 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: same age. 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're like a month apart. 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I mean yeah, so you guys 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: are like really doing it at the fresh eighteen. 126 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, seventeen is when we originally moved out. 127 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: But eighteen we moved out of the state, and I 128 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: was pretty just locked in financially, right, it gets to 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: a point where I'm covering her rent and mine and 130 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: that's like fourteen hundred and then I'm also helping Okay, 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: what's his name, I'm. 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Gonna go, well, that's I mean, that's yeah, that's wild 133 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: to be doing that so young. 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 135 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've I've been working since I was 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: like fourteen, so it's nothing new. 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 138 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: But uh yeah. I locked in on that, like I 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: got my g D. I kind of I was up 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: in Maine for a bit and then I came over 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: to help her out. That's the Colorado and then moving 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: into Oregon. It was a domino effect and so what 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: is it? Yeah, I basically do all that support them 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: cover I'm gonna call them Zach cover Zach's bills as well. 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: Okay, who's who is Zach? 146 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: Zach is a fan a least name that I made 147 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: for the guy she cheated on me with. 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, but so why are you Okay, so you 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: so you're living in a So you're eighteen, you're living 150 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: with your eighteen year old girlfriend and some guy, uh. 151 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: Some not some guy. It's also same roommates that we 152 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: had an Oregon. I mean in Colorado, we have an Oregon. 153 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: Now we're not right now, but like when. 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: We okay, so you your girlfriend and so okay, so 155 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: you and your girlfriend and these roommates all moved together 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: to uh Orgon from from Colorado. Yeah, and we're like, okay, 157 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: so now you're so you're financially so you're eighteen years 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: old and you're financially supporting the whole fucking house. 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: No, no, just Lorraine and Zach. 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Okay, why are you support Why are you financially supporting Zach? 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, he was like, oh, there was a bad 162 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: choice at the time, but it was like he was 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: like I considered him kind of like a little brother figure, 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, because I related to a lot of the 165 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: issues he had because through like a bunch of physical abuse, 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: he was a little held back, like kind of mentally. 167 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, I kind of I pitied 168 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: him a little bit, and I felt bad for him. 169 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: Its like I knew how rough it was, so yeah, 170 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: you know, I got you a little bit. You know, 171 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: I'll get you here and there, like so much so 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: that I did genuinely consider him to be a little brother. 173 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: And like, near the end of that whole renting thing, 174 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: we're going to move into a separate place, which we did, 175 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: but then he ended up on my phone plan as well, 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: so I was paying for his phone bill and uh, 177 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: paying for her phone bill as well. Yeah, and then 178 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: what is it. We're moving to this new apartment and 179 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: she's having issue again. But we moved out of the 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: like we moved away from the other roommates, and we 181 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: moved into this new apartment with a different roommate, and 182 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: we're clutching up a little bit. Except Lorraine loses their job, 183 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: Zach loses their job, and then the other roommate also 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: loses their job, and it's just me and I'm making, like, 185 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, fourteen hundred a month. I can't cover like 186 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: two point one k phil, So I'm struggling. I'm struggling. 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, I don't know if we can you know, 188 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,479 Speaker 2: if this is sustainable. 189 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Well wait, so you were making fourteen hundred dollars a month, 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: how were you even covered? How were you even like 191 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: making enough to like support I mean, I mean, damn, 192 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: like fourteen hundred a month, Like, how are you even making? 193 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: That's like barely I guess enough to even support yourself, 194 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: let alone like two other people. 195 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was tough. It was tough. I just 196 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: had to Like it's fourteen hundred a month. I'm not 197 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: like trying too hard, but I'd say it was around 198 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: maybe like sixteen eighteen two k if I was really 199 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: able to pick up enough shifts because I was like 200 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: working at a David Blusters fixing up games. Oh and 201 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: then the travel time was crazy. It was like an 202 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: hour and a half, almost two hours to get to 203 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: my job too each way. And yeah, yeah. 204 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: And you're and you're doing and you're doing all of 205 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: this at eighteen you're driving, You're you're doing three hour 206 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: commute every fucking day. 207 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, to make and I'd be closing, so it'd be 208 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: like icy, and oh it'd be terrible. It'd be like 209 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: one thirty am and I'm walking it's like windy, it's icy. 210 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, you know what though, like I 211 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: like the job, I like fixing games, I like electricians work. 212 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: So you know, I was suffering for an alright cause 213 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: because I enjoyed it. 214 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Damn dude, what can where can I? 215 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Well? 216 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: I have a couple quick. I want to hear the 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: rest of your story, but I just I want to 218 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: butt in with like two questions. How old are you? 219 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: How old are you now? How old do you know? 220 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: I turned twenty one in March. 221 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: You turn twenty one in March. Yeah, I thought you 222 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: were like at least seven years older than me. Honest 223 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: to god, No, you have You have the march. You 224 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: have the demeanor and the the ethics of someone who 225 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I thought was at least thirty nine years old. 226 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. A lot of people tell me I 227 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of restraint. Like it was me and 228 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: my it was me and your situation. I would have 229 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: been like airing the place. They're like starting fights, and 230 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm just too tired for that. You know, 231 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: HEEZU are kidnapped? 232 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Who the fuck are you? 233 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: Man? 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: You're what what kind of what's up with your uh? 235 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: What's up with your parents? Like? Where were they at 236 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: the time? 237 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: My mom is a main and she's dealing with like 238 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: another two siblings that I got. My dad's he's a deadbeat, 239 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, deadbie dad type situation. 240 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 241 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, my mom's trying to she was 242 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: trying to start up her own business. I was helping 243 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: her out with that, which is part of the reason 244 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: why I was working at fourteen. Well no, because when 245 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: I met her, I was like sixteen. So when I 246 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: was working at fourteen, it was more like gang activity. 247 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: But then I moved to Maine started helping my mom out, 248 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: and I turned into like cleaning airbnbs and construction work 249 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: and poring and stuff like that. 250 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Shit man, all right, summer stuff. All right, so you're eighteen, Uh, 251 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: your you move out, You're supporting your girlfriends and uh 252 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: uh this other guy you're driving three hours back and 253 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: forth to work bubblic transport. Oh you're taking You're taken 254 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: the fucking bus. Your walking and taking the fucking bus 255 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: to a day buster an hour and a half. Yeah, but. 256 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry. One time I ended up closing and 257 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: I didn't have a ride, so I had to walk 258 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: the ten miles. When it is funny, it was like 259 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: one thirty am and I'm just walking all the way 260 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: from from clack Toggresham. That one was nice. 261 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I genuinely I feel I feel like such a baby 262 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: talking to you right now. I really do, I really do. 263 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you get that very often, but 264 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: I feel like a baby. 265 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Please don't. I've been wanting to call you for years, 266 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: like I actually I called you one time and I 267 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: made it to the wait list. I think in like 268 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. When I first moved into the apartment 269 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: in Colorado, I got rejected because it was a dumb 270 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: reason though it was really dumb. I was like, what 271 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: about streaming? And I was like, no that everybody asks that, 272 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: so well. 273 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Mist well here let me. I want to hear the 274 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: rest of your stories. So you're okay, You're you're you're eighteen, 275 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: you're the Dave and Buster's hero, You're taking the bus, 276 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: You're walking home in the rain. What, uh yeah? But ahead. 277 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So then we move into this other apartment with 278 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: the other rooms, right, everybody loses their job. Nikkia's packing 279 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: stuff and I'm I'm a little autistic, Right, she's packing stuff. 280 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: She just moved from like her room into the loft 281 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: and She's like, I don't know, it's just cluttering, and 282 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a minimalist, so I was like, no, honestly, 283 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: I get that. I didn't think of anything of it 284 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: until like a week later, she just disappears and like 285 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: sends us a message to being like, hey, i'll come 286 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: back to sign off the lease later. I'll try and 287 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: help you' all find a different roommate, but I can't 288 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: do it. A little before then, I break up with 289 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: Lorraine because it's like, you know, it's draining. I can't 290 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: handle it. And she immediately gets with Zach, like immediately 291 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: sleeping in his bed. You know, they're chilling together, cuddling up, 292 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: getting cozy, drink and all that. So I'm like, all right, 293 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: you know, I might as well, like I'll put myself 294 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: back out of the field as well, which they get 295 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: angry at, which is weird to me. So it's like 296 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm following your rules, you know, like I've been. I 297 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: didn't just do this randomly. I just want to, like, 298 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: I gotta get my mind off it, because not only 299 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: do I know you're with somebody that considered to be 300 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: my little brother, you're with it like you're with him 301 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: in the same house, I have to see it daily, 302 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: like you gotta get you gotta give me a break, 303 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: m hm. And so they they also tried to say 304 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: like that I was a big cheater and that I 305 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: was cheating the entire time. And then I realized, like 306 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of projection because since the old house, 307 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: they would like like apparently when I wasn't there, they'd 308 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: be like holding hands or like we would come home 309 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: and they're like both asleep on the couch together and 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: like stuff like that. But because I saw him as 311 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: a little mentally delayed, and I related to his issues 312 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: because he's got a dead mom and I'm a big 313 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: mom in his voice, so I was like, oh, poor Zach. 314 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: You know, poor Zach. I wouldn't expect him to do 315 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: anything like that. And then she right after they all 316 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: lose jobs, Zach and Lorraine get together, we start to 317 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: lose the apartment because right you know, nobody's paying rent 318 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: except for me, and I can't pay two thousand dollars 319 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: in rent as well as I like, what is it electricity? 320 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Wi Fi? Phone bill? Like food? I can't cover it all, 321 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Like I'm drowning. So I'm like, hey, guys, you know, 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to catch this eviction. I really suggest, 323 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: like you guys got to get a plan or something 324 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: to do something because we either get the money to 325 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: pay for this or I give up ownership because I 326 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: can't take this eviction on my record. So they moved 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: to Colorado together and I I move out and they 328 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: kind of foot me with the eight point four grand bill, 329 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: which is I mean, it sucks, but I've got to couch. 330 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm paying like five hundred four I guess, so I'm warm. 331 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: I've said I can deal with it. I have time 332 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: to deal with it, you know, I can build it 333 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: the funds and the girlfriend I have right now, her 334 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: dad offered me a job like fifty one an hour 335 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: at a construction site that starts in March. 336 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: So, oh wow, pretty good. Yeah, damn man, So what's yeah? 337 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: Tell me about what what's your life look like? 338 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: Now? 339 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: I'm living with the original roommates we moved out with. 340 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: What do I call them? I'm gonna go with. 341 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with, well, well, so, so how many arias? 342 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna probably forget those two nass but so 343 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: it's you and and those two yeah, and so Zach 344 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and Lorraine are gone. They're doing their own thing. 345 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they moved to Colorado. She's still like making reposts 346 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 2: about me, which I'm like, come on, man, if you 347 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: have a man, you should be thinking about me anymore, 348 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: especially you've been cheating with this dude for a minute. 349 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Well so are you? She told Yeah, you go, sorry, 350 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: go ahead. 351 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: Oh I was just gonna say I found out because 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: she told a mutual friend of ours, and the mutual 353 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: friend like reached out to me to be like, hey, 354 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: I just want to let you know, Like she told 355 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: me this, and I was like, oh, I'm at work 356 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: right now, but thanks for letting me know. 357 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: So are and you are? Are your two roommates? Are 358 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: they paying rent? 359 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're paying rent, which is good. And I have 360 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: very reduced rent because I got the couch. I'm only 361 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: paying five hundred now, which is a big step down 362 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: from like fourteen fifteen and sixteen hundred a mile. 363 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: Man. 364 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: God, damn, you're you're you're you're a real like I 365 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: don't know, just talking to you, I'm like, Damn, you're 366 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: only twenty one or you're not even twenty one yet. 367 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: You have twenty right now? 368 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: Twenty one Jesus week christ Man, You're gonna be I 369 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to like inflate your head too 370 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: much or whatever. But you're gonna be okay for the 371 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: rest of your life, you know what I mean? Because 372 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: you I really I don't. I know that's a lot 373 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: to say to you right now. And I'm but and 374 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how much that's worth coming from me, 375 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: but just hearing the way that you fucking you know 376 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: are just going out of your way to take care 377 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: of other people. And but some by the way, at 378 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: your you're going out of your way to take care 379 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: of other people at your own detriment, which has, you know, 380 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: its own set of whatever's But uh, I mean, god 381 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: damn dude, you just uh you got you got this 382 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: crazy uh work ethic to you. It's such a Yeah, 383 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know any when I was twenty, I don't 384 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: know anyone else who uh would you know put up 385 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: with all of this stuff. I mean, it's it's uh, 386 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's commendable. What's your dream? What do you 387 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: want to actually do with your what do you want 388 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to do with your life? Oh? 389 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: I wanna two things that either you like, it's kind 390 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: of dumb. But I either want to like pro game 391 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: and stream or become an electrician. So I'm gonna rock 392 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: out with both of those and try. I suppose are 393 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: you already an electrician, adds anybody in the electrician field. 394 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: Almost I'm like a game technician, or I used to be, 395 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: because I just switched jobs because I needed more hours. So, like, 396 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: I know more about the and that's what kind of 397 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: got me into that field because I was messing with wires, 398 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm checking the olms of stuff, switching out 399 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: microboards and chips and disassembling things to put a switch 400 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: in somewhere. Like I sound that really fun. So it's 401 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: like I either want to do that if I can't, 402 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: or not even can't. I'll even do that main or 403 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: on the side if I have the pro gaming streaming 404 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: thing comes to fruition as well. 405 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: Well. Look, here's the thing. If you think you want 406 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: to be I don't know why I'm giving advice right now. 407 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: You know I could ask you for advice more than 408 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I could give any to you, but I don't know. Look, 409 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be an electrician and you want 410 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: to be a programmer, I think the cool thing is 411 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: that you could do both. I mean, the electrician is 412 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: probably where the money is and then you know, stream 413 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: and play games on the side and enjoy your fucking life. 414 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping. You know, it's a big hope. 415 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: It's a big prey. I gotta I think one of 416 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: the big things I've gotta do is learn to like 417 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: know when to stop taking care of people, because I 418 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: think I have like a savior conflict about it. 419 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess that was kind of one of 420 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: the I mean, oh, I don't know. It's it's hard, 421 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: right because I actually I I think it's obviously it's 422 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: like good to care about other people, but especially like 423 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, just at eighteen to be taken on all. Yeah, 424 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: that's this just too much. It's too much man at 425 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: a at that uhh yeah, young of young of an 426 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: age to be doing that. So I mean, I guess 427 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't I really, I I don't know. I guess, Like, 428 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: do you think that you're like taking care of people 429 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: like to your own detriment? 430 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: I mean I think I used to. Right now, I'm 431 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: just kind of I honestly couldn't tell you like if 432 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: I am or not, because like ever since childhood. It's 433 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: just been a thing to like, you know, I was 434 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: forced to work since a young age. I was forced 435 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: to look at for other people my entire life. So 436 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: it's just kind of comes naturally, you know. So yeah, 437 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: like I couldn't even tell if it's detrimental or not 438 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: until after the fact, And like all the things I've 439 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: done previously are usually detrimental. But like while I'm going 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: through the motion, you know, like I'm just doing. 441 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: It, okay, all right, Well man, Well look man, I 442 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: don't know. You work hard, so I make sure that 443 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: you're doing all right before you, you know, rip your 444 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: own fucking uh, you know, before you stick a straw 445 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: in your hearts and let other people suck all the 446 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: blood out of your body. 447 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: So I need to work on that. I do need 448 00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: to work on. 449 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: It's been nice talking to you. Man. What's your name again? Angel? 450 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 451 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Angel? Oh, you know we're gonna bleep that we're 452 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna bleep that we're gonna I'm gonna believe, I'm not 453 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: gonna we're air. We're a fake first name only podcast 454 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: over here, so we're gonna bleep that. 455 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 456 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: Angel. Is there anything else you want to say to 457 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go. 458 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: Oh, let's see we keep it pushing, Keep it pushing. 459 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: No matter what happens, you can always find a way. 460 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: You won't find a way if you're just stressing about 461 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: what will. You gotta just do what you can with 462 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: what you got. 463 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: Hey, take care, Angel, Good luck to you. 464 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: Hey, you too, man, goodbye. 465 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: Man. What a fascinating interview with a fifty three year 466 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: old twenty year old That guy was. I don't know, 467 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: sometimes you just like you guys, you ever just talk 468 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: to someone who has like, uh, just makes you feel 469 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: like such a piece of shit. That was what that 470 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: whole conversation was. That whole conversation made me feel like 471 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: a piece of shit. Not to make it about me, 472 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 1: but yeah, that guy what a he That guy just 473 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: bent his entire body into a a fucking slinky for 474 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: for people who fucked them over, and uh, you know, 475 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure I look it was a bit of some 476 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: time ago. But he doesn't even say That's the thing is, 477 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't even seem rattled about it. He doesn't even 478 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: seem rattled about it. He just keeps going. This guy 479 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna be even sometimes I just talk to people 480 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast and I'm like, Oh, this fucking guy's 481 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. This person's gonna be fine because they 482 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: just have the thing that lets them just take life's 483 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: uh miseries and spit them out uh uh with with 484 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: with so much grace. It's fascinating. I wish I had that. 485 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm trying to work on that a little bit more. 486 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to work on like life not being perfect 487 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: and amazing all the time, and the more and I 488 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: keep I it's hard. I don't want to. I just 489 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I know my own real life brain so much, and 490 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to be one of those motivational people 491 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: who sits on a podcast and goes, life is all 492 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: about perspective and then go into my real life and 493 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, mentally complain. But I just keep running across 494 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: situations in my real life and in doing this podcast 495 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: that just make me keep being like, damn, life is 496 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: about perspective. Especially you know when we have a caller 497 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: like this last one who just you know, gets it, uh, 498 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: who just gets it in the in the fucking chest, 499 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: takes it with pride, keeps going. He's gonna be fine. 500 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: I really I hope he You know he's unfortunately, he's 501 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: a great target for like a love scam or something 502 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: like that. I hope he doesn't. I hope he I 503 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: hope he maintains some kind of like self preservation. This guy, right, 504 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: that's the way. That's a weird conundrum. It's like how 505 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: much do you attempt to self preserve versus how much 506 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: do you uh give to others? Because if you if 507 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent self preservation, you're gonna be fucking 508 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: miserable and alone. But if you're one hundred percent giving 509 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: to other people, then you're you won't You're not gonna 510 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: have anything, and you're also gonna be just uh uh 511 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: an empty squeeze. You're gonnnna be a an empty plastic 512 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: water bottle in a gutter. You know, I don't know 513 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm being dramatic. I'm being dramatic. Uh okay, Hello, Hello, Hey, 514 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: what's your name? 515 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: My name's Abby? 516 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Abby? What's up? Abby? Like Abbey Road? You know the Beatles? 517 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: A little bit? 518 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Not too much? 519 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 3: Sadly? 520 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: How old are you? Can? I ask? 521 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: Nineteen? 522 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Okay? I you know, I was just thinking about this. 523 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: We're getting to a point in time where I was like, 524 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: at some point, there's gonna be like a generation of 525 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: people who just don't know who the Beatles are. 526 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, do you know anything. 527 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: About do you know? Like, do you know anything about 528 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: the Beatles? I don't know. I don't know why I'm 529 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: doing this right now, but I'm just curious. 530 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh no, you're good. Uh. I know they're I know 531 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: they're British. I know John Lennon is kind of maybe 532 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: a bad guy. I know they I know they have 533 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: some pretty good songs. Okay, I can't list too many, but. 534 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you're but you're you're aware that the Beatles exist. Yes, 535 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: you know who they are? You know, like if I 536 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: say the Beatles, you're not like, what's that? 537 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 538 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay, but the but the information you had, can you 539 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: name one Beatles song? 540 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: Uh? Isn't there? Hey, Jude, there's. 541 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, there we go. Okay, all right, and you're 542 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: nineteen Okay, so we're a we're It's only I think 543 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: in the next five years we're gonna have nineteen year 544 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: olds who don't know who the Beatles are. 545 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: Really, you really think that? 546 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I think? So, I don't know. I'm such an I'm 547 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm insane. I I I'm in. I was talking to 548 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: chat GPT and I was like, when do you I 549 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: This is something I literally asked to chat GPT. I 550 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: was like, when do you think people will forget about Garfield? 551 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: That's that's like how old me because you know, the 552 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Internet and everything, Like I feel like I feel like 553 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff's just going to be around for 554 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: a really long time. 555 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: But I but I don't because like every because here's 556 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: the thing, like, like I don't like if you're like, 557 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: if you're like fifteen, you're probably watching some like YouTube 558 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: thing that like I that, like, I have no fucking 559 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: idea what it is like you're probably not like like 560 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: the like when I was fifteen, there were still like 561 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: we would go to I don't know why I'm going 562 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,239 Speaker 1: on this rant, but like there would be like a 563 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: movie that everyone would watch. But now like for young people, 564 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: like media is so like segregated and and uh not 565 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: every it's it's not as homogeneous I think it was, 566 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: and it's getting like rapidly less and less homogenous. So 567 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be surprised if there were like a 568 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of like I don't know, like people in high school. 569 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: We just don't know who Garfield is? Like like soon, 570 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: like where would you where do you find out who 571 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: Garfield is? Like? Like who on Twitter and TikTok and 572 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: Instagram is like talking about Garfield? Like how do people 573 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: even keep knowing who he is? Does that make sense? 574 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess that makes sense, But I guess I 575 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: don't know. For me growing up on the Internet, I 576 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: kind of just got everything all at once, just thrown 577 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: up me, you know, so I feel like it's yeah, 578 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it will last a pretty long time. 579 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: But it's interest because when you say you got everything 580 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: thrown at you all at once, it's like, well, what 581 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: is everything? I mean, you know, who's you know, SpongeBob 582 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna do? I think SpongeBob is gonna be around 583 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. 584 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, of course. 585 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: But you weren't like when like okay, so the first 586 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: three seasons of SpongeBob is where most of the memes 587 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: come from. It's like the Golden Age, and like I 588 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: think I was at like SpongeBob watching age a little 589 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: bit after those came out, but you you were probably 590 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: at SpongeBob watching age like long after those came out, 591 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: Like we were on the SpongeBob seasons that people consider 592 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: shitty when you were around, like the age that SpongeBob 593 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: is I guess marketed towards. 594 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you could say that. I think my 595 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: parents actually bought like the older disc or like the 596 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: older seasons of SpongeBob. 597 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: When we were growing up, yeah. 598 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: Instead of like the newer ones. 599 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: There go there, Like are you familiar you know the 600 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: episode where squid word forms a band? Oh? Yeah, okay, 601 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: all right. I don't know why. I just I guess 602 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm like pessimistic because I don't know, uh a lot 603 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: about like like do you watch like mister Beast, Like 604 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: who's the guy now? 605 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: I I don't. I don't really know. Like I think 606 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm just too busy with like college. I don't know. 607 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: I write interesting thing about mister Beasts is I actually 608 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: knew someone from my high school who got on to 609 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: his Amazon show. 610 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh really had that go for them? By the Dead. 611 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: I think they got out first episode. I think they 612 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: had like a one like second thing. 613 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: But it was so cool. 614 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: Seeing that. 615 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: I have a random thought. I'm a hold on about it. 616 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I know that you called in probably to talk about something, 617 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: and we're going to get there, but I just need 618 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: to talk about Garfield for like one more minute. 619 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: Oh you're so good, don't even worry. 620 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: I was talking of I opened my l the last 621 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: podcast by talking about how we're part of the six 622 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: percent of people who are alive out of all the 623 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: people that I've ever been born, and I got there 624 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: was somebody made a comment because you can make like 625 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: comments on Spotify now, and somebody made a comment being 626 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: likely lyle you need to shut the fuck up about death. 627 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: You're clear you're you need to see a therapist. You're 628 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: clearly very depressed, but like you need to shut up 629 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: about it and like go get therapy, you're depressed. And 630 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I actually think this person is right. 631 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: I think I think about death too much because I 632 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: just had this thought just now. I was like, like, 633 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: in like, okay, human being, let's say you live to eighty, 634 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: Like how much time of the eighty years of your 635 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: life does the average person spend looking at Garfield? 636 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: That's interesting. I thought it was a completely different route, 637 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: more depressing of like you're being like more depressing of 638 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: like how how long does the average person out spend 639 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: looking at their phone? But I guess Garfield's a lot. 640 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's really depressing. Oh well, because all 641 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: the there's like you can you can mathematic there is 642 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: a mathematical percentage. I'm looking at a picture of Garfield 643 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: right now. There's a mathematical percentage. Fuck you know what. 644 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Fuck that Spotify comment right now, Fuck that Spotify comment 645 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: or guy, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep talking about death. 646 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: It's important. I'm looking at Garfield right now. And it's 647 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: like if you I always wonder about like, uh, you 648 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: ever you ever heard that thing of like, oh, when 649 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: I die, it would be cool to have like stats, 650 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: Like there's a stat there's a literal percentage of the 651 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: time I have been alive and the time that I 652 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: will until from now until I die that you can 653 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: calculate that is a number of the percentage of time 654 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: that I have been alive that my eyes have been 655 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: looking at Garfield. And I'm just curious what that percentage is. 656 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: And I'm curious what that percentage is. You know, nationally, 657 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: across all the people that have died for nineteen U 658 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: seventy six, the answer was zero percent. But then after 659 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: Garfield was created, that number went up. Okay, what'd you 660 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: want to Okay, all right, I'm done with this. What 661 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: did you want to talk about today? 662 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna I was just gonna ask 663 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: how often do you think about Garfield? 664 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: If you're truly not truly not that often, truly, not 665 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: that often. I just I don't know why, but I 666 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: just like searched. That is because chatch apt It's like 667 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: talking to fucking god dude, and you can ask it 668 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: insane questions and it will human because if you because 669 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: if you're like talking to your friend and you're like, 670 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: do you think people when do you think Garfields will 671 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: be forgotten? Your friend will go, what's shut up? What 672 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: are you talking about? That's a really stupid thing. But 673 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: if you have a really stupid question and you ask 674 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: it to AI AI will you it will use power 675 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: to fucking try to answer your stupid question. Will never 676 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: tell you that your question is too stupid. Sometimes I 677 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: think it should sometimes I think if you ask Garfield 678 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: a question like I mean, if did Garfield? If you 679 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: ask chat Chipetia a question like when will people forget Garfield? 680 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: I do think as part of a like an artificial 681 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: intelligence safeguard to prevent it from destroying humanity. It should 682 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: tell you to go outside, but it doesn't do that. 683 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: It actually helps you answer your stupid questions. What's up? 684 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: What's your name? Again? No? 685 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: Abby, I do wonder what chat GPT would say to 686 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: your question now though, Yeah, but. 687 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: You could just you could just keep asking. I've asked 688 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: it so many questions that are just are like, I 689 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: don't need why do I need to know the answer 690 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: to this? Sometimes sometimes having questions is better than having answers. 691 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't need to know the answer. 692 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like reading the chat on the podcast, 693 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it. Somebody in the chat just 694 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: said good friends will hear out any question students that 695 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: you ask, And I don't think that that's necessarily true. 696 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: I think occasionally a good friend, you know what, Maybe 697 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: that's true. Maybe that's true. But if you if you 698 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: ask if I treated my good friend the way I 699 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: treat CHATGBT, if I if my good friend was good enough, 700 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: my good friend would be like, you need to just 701 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: you need to drink some water and have a cigarette 702 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: and you'll be Okay, what's up? Abby? 703 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: You just got to keep people real. I'm doing all right. 704 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: I just got the flu. But that's okay because I'm 705 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: getting better. 706 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: Uh, that's a very optimistic talk to have. I'm curious, 707 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: and it's totally okay if you didn't, because we found 708 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: our way to whatever this is. But do you have 709 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: something specific that you wanted to talk about today? 710 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: I have a very interesting story to tell. 711 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: I guess what's it about. 712 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 3: So I'm a twin and when I was younger, my 713 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 3: mom signed me and my brother up for a twin 714 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: study and it went very interesting. I'll say that. 715 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: Okay, care to elaborate. 716 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: So I guess I was like, I don't really know 717 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: how old I was. 718 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: I was. 719 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: I guess at that age where I was like marketed 720 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 3: towards SpongeBob, like what we were talking about. And there 721 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: was this college and they were doing just studies on twins, 722 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: and since I'm a twin, I think my mom got 723 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: some money out of it, and she's like, oh, I'll 724 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: just I'll just sign them up for it, like what 725 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 3: what's the worst that could happen? And we go in 726 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: there and they immediately like start asking us like the 727 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 3: normal health questions like how old are you guys? Like 728 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: who's older? All that other stuff. But there's two rooms 729 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: behind these two people that are like that. I guess 730 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: they're the ones that are doing the test on us. 731 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: And they tell us that there's gonna be like a 732 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: quiz test and there's gonna be a physical test. So 733 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 3: my brother goes into like the quiz test, and I 734 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 3: go into like the physical test, which is like in 735 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: the room right over. And you go into this room 736 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: and it's really tiny, and this lady has this l 737 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: shaped desk and you know like those dentist chairs that 738 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: are like like it looks like a dentist chair, but 739 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: it's like propped all the way up, like it's not 740 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: like fully laid back, and there's all these contraptions just 741 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: strapped to it. And she's just asking me these very 742 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 3: normal questions. And then we start doing the physical test 743 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: and it's like normal like blood pressure whatever. But then 744 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: she's like, we're gonna do something different, and she like 745 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 3: straps me down and like puts like those like laughing 746 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: gas masks on me, and I guess she starts just 747 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 3: like giving me some like random ass gas that makes 748 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: me start to panic, but she's like reading all these 749 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: super scientific calculations on her computer, and it was just 750 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: it was it was very interesting going through that as 751 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 3: like a little child, like, I don't have any trauma 752 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: related to it. I just think it's funny that. 753 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: Well, so is this is the study still going on? 754 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 3: I think? I don't know. I like, I think they're 755 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: still doing a twin study. I don't know if they're 756 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: still doing that specific study, hm hmm. But but with 757 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 3: this lady, it's she was like she was just gonna 758 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: be like, hey, just tell me when it gets too 759 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: much to you. And I, like, I like to just 760 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 3: started like panicking because you know, that's a really weird 761 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: situation to be in. And so I tell her to 762 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: take it off, and she says, no, we're getting good 763 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: test results. All the while, my brother's hearing me like 764 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: scream and cry in the room next over, probably like 765 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 3: really nervous for what he has to do next. 766 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: Right, what did did they? I mean, so did they 767 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: did they get any conclusions? 768 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 3: Well that's the next part of it. My brother since 769 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: he didn't do the physical test because he like he 770 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 3: went to go switch. My brother was like, absolutely not. 771 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: They technically couldn't make a conclusion because they didn't get 772 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 3: the other half. 773 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: Oh so your brother heard you screaming and nope, doubt. 774 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 775 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,959 Speaker 1: Basically they can't have a twin study with with just one. 776 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 3: No, you can't. So I just I like just randomly 777 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: remembered this thing too. 778 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: Like your mom ago. But did your mom get any 779 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: money for for your torture? 780 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 3: I think so. I don't know if it was torture. 781 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 3: I think it could have just been me genuinely panicking 782 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: as a kid. But I just think the situation or 783 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 3: funny than anything. M it's very peculiar. 784 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: Uh did did your was your mom like mad at 785 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: your brother for uh not participating in the study. 786 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: She seemed a little disappointed more than anything, But they 787 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 3: still gave her like the full amount of money, which 788 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 3: I find interesting. 789 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: M M. 790 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: I guess that just comes with like working with children, 791 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: you know, like sometimes they're just not going. 792 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: To cooperate, right, Yeah, this sounds like how uh how 793 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: people get humans centipeded? Is with like a studies like this. 794 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: Oh don't don't compare to that. 795 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: Well what's your name again? Abby? 796 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Abby? 797 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: Well thanks for letting me rant to you about Garfield 798 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: for ten minutes. I really do appreciate you U let 799 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: it being there while I did that. Oh yeah, of course, 800 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say to the 801 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go, not really, just. 802 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 3: Don't don't trust scientists. 803 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: I guess don't. Yes, what that is a great message. 804 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: Do not trust science. 805 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 3: I didn't think about it. 806 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: Do not trust no, no, no, Abby, you said it. You 807 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: can't take it back. We do not trust scientists. We 808 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: question everything. There was no such thing as verifiable evidence, 809 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: and the uh, the solar system revolves around the Earth. 810 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling Abby. All right, see it? Hello, Hello, hey, hello, Hi. 811 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: What is your name? 812 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 4: Hey? My name is Stella. 813 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 3: How are you doing? 814 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: Wele? It's it's what. 815 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 4: Stella? 816 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 2: Stella sure or whatever. 817 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: You'd like, Stella like like the beer stella arose h. 818 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I don't know. 819 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: That's how stella because when the sun shines, will shine together. 820 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 1: So all right, well, what's up, Stella? How you doing? 821 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: How's how's life? Stella? 822 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 4: Life is pretty uh up in the air, trying to 823 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 4: stay afloat. But I mean, nonetheless, it's good to be alive. 824 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 4: You know, how are you? 825 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: How much I'm every single it's every single day I'm 826 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: realizing that I I don't know anything about fucking anything, 827 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: And there's like life can only be uh, there's a 828 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's a quote directly that 829 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: somebody said, or if it's more of a just general adage, 830 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: but the idea that life can only be lived forward 831 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: and understood backwards makes so much goddamn sense to me. 832 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: Every year that I get a little bit older and 833 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: things start to make sense a little bit more, and 834 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 1: it's weird for me. Yeah, I'm giving you the actual 835 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: answers to the question of how I'm doing, So give 836 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: me a second, and you know, I genuinely I really 837 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: like doing this podcast when I am in the position 838 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: of like like being I don't know. Sometimes sometimes I 839 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: struggle with it. Sometimes I struggle with but sometimes like 840 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: to like today, for some reason, I'm having a real 841 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: good time with it. But sometimes I struggle with it 842 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: because it's you know, people will be wanting I guess 843 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: my perspective on things, and I'm just like, I don't know, 844 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know, but it's I don't know. 845 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes I like it, the other I like it the 846 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: other way around. I like when I get people's perspective 847 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: on stuff. It's fun, it's interesting, it's a real honor. 848 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: It's an honor to get to and that's all. It's 849 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: an honor to get to do something like this, but 850 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: also it's it's way better when I'm uh caffeinated. I'm 851 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: learning about that. I'm learning about how to be how 852 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: to not be depressed. I think I figured it out. 853 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: I actually genuinely think I figured out how to not 854 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: be depressed. 855 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 4: Okay, what's the equation? 856 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay, first you have to have five million dollars. We 857 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: can't talk about any of the other steps unless you 858 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: have five million dollars. First, you have to have five 859 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. And then you have to have a beautiful 860 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: husband or wife that doesn't they can be they can 861 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: be really nothing less than ten out of ten. This 862 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: is the most gorgeous person that you've ever seen. And 863 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: they have to love you unconditionally, you like you have 864 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: to be you know, like like like they have to 865 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: love all of your flaws. They have to love you unconditionally. 866 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: So five million dollars, beautiful life partner who loves you unconditionally. 867 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: What else? I know? It starts with those two things. 868 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, if you don't if you. 869 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: Don't have those two things, you're probably fucked and miserable. 870 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: But what's what's up? What's up with you? Stella? What's 871 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: I what makes you? What made you call in today? 872 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 4: Nothing in particular, I mean I just in general. I 873 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 4: think you kind of opened it up perfectly with not 874 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 4: knowing anything day by day as you get older, I 875 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 4: kind of feel the same way, both like in a 876 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 4: micro level and a macro level when it comes to 877 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 4: just living life day by day. But let's get specific. 878 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 4: Let me just give you a random micro level to 879 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: I currently live with my sister and her boyfriend. It 880 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 4: was just me and her when it first began, but 881 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 4: now I'm really looking into getting out and just going 882 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 4: on my own. But again, that goes back to your 883 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 4: five million dollars and someone who loves your own conditionally. 884 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 4: You know, I don't have five mil. I have someone 885 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 4: do the other man conditionally? No? Probably not? I mean 886 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 4: can anyone really? 887 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: No? 888 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 889 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 4: But I'm just stuck between, like, do I go on? 890 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 4: I mean I can do it. I have money, not 891 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 4: five mil, but I got I can go on my own. 892 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 4: I mean, the economy is not the best right now, 893 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 4: but I can probably be Okay. 894 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: So what's going on? What's what's going on with Uh, 895 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: your your current situation. Why are you trying to get 896 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: out of it? 897 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 4: Nothing's wrong with it? Actually it's perfect. Like me and 898 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 4: my sister are great. We've been through a lot together 899 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 4: and made our bomb stronger, you know, and I think 900 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 4: living with her has been such a blessing. But I 901 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 4: want something that's my own, you know, like my own space, 902 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: my own universe within four walls, you know. And I 903 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 4: think it's just time. I've been in the same place 904 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 4: for five years now and have a good job, so 905 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 4: it's given me affording me the ability to even think 906 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 4: about this, you know, like be able to say, hey, 907 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 4: I can and want to get my own place. But 908 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 4: then I just think I overthink things, especially when it 909 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 4: comes to just making decisions in general in life. It's 910 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: not like my forte. I second guess things all the 911 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: time and have to overanalyze and overthink. So I'm like 912 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 4: constantly on the internet trying to financewers to things, use 913 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 4: chat GBT to like to the finest detail, ask like 914 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 4: how do I get from point A to point B? 915 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I no, I have I have a similar a 916 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: similar thing. I have a similar thing. Now, so you 917 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: said this, you have a person in your life and 918 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: they love you with you know a few conditions, which 919 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: is I think the best that you can get? What 920 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: and what's are they gonna move in with you? Is 921 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 1: that the idea or are you like totally totally placed 922 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: on your own That's the. 923 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 4: Thing I don't know. I don't think financially and mentally 924 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 4: there it's doable for them to come and be with 925 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 4: me if we get like a police together, and that 926 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 4: kind of like that hurts a little because I make 927 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 4: it very aware what I expect and what I want, 928 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, from a partner or my boyfriend or whatever, 929 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 4: and it just doesn't seem to click. But then I 930 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 4: understand that there's a lot of mental boundaries that can 931 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 4: stop somebody from seeing their own potential and then being 932 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 4: that for somebody else who has vocally let them know, like, hey, 933 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 4: this is what I want, So I. 934 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: Can I ask what I mean, what's if if if 935 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: this is you know something you want to talk about 936 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: to go into like what is what does that look like? 937 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 4: So I mean he's my boyfriend. He's the type to 938 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 4: like go back to the past a lot and say 939 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 4: I used to make so much money and I was 940 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 4: able to afford an apartment for me and my partner 941 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 4: that's like his ex at the time or whatever. And 942 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 4: he's like, but shit's not like that anymore. You know. 943 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 4: I'm not the same person physically, and I'm not capable 944 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 4: of making so much money like you or whatever. And 945 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 4: I don't make six figures or anything. But I'm I'm 946 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 4: pretty okay where I'm at, you know. But he says 947 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 4: that a lot, and I'm just like, where's like the 948 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 4: motivation to be in this together, to want to make 949 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 4: what I make or more possibly? You know, I know 950 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 4: there's a lot of boundaries and obstacles that stop people 951 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 4: from doing things like I'm here with you. I want 952 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 4: to do this with you, like let's go, let's be 953 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 4: fucking right or dies. You know, Like that's always what 954 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 4: I thought having somebody would be and os But like 955 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go through the wringer with anybody, like 956 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 4: the muck and the mire, just to come out like 957 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 4: the shining phoenixes from the ashes of corny. 958 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are you are reaching your hand 959 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: out to this man at begging him to begging, but 960 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: you're you're reaching this. You're not begging, but you're you're 961 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: reaching your hand out to this man and saying, what 962 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: walk walk the walk with me, my friend, and he's 963 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: walk the walk with you, my dear. And what's his? 964 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: What's his he's saying? 965 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 4: He says, yes, he says already gonna say when somebody 966 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 4: is saying that. You know, he has a great heart, 967 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 4: he's a good man. I'm not saying anything is wrong 968 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 4: with him, but everybody has their flaws, and I want 969 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 4: to work with him on them, you know. But I 970 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 4: have also been And that's another thing too, is myself. 971 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 4: I don't want my past to get in the way 972 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 4: of going on this journey with this person because I 973 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 4: have my flaws of like the minute a voice is 974 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 4: raised in a conversation or like disrespect is there, I'm like, no, 975 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 4: I gotta go, I gotta walk away. I need to 976 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 4: like it's done, it's over. And he's like, whoa, you 977 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 4: know it's I make. 978 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: For me. 979 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I think maybe because of my past, 980 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 4: I see everything as a red not a reflect but 981 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 4: you know, something to be weary of and scared of 982 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 4: and anxious of. And then I take it to the 983 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 4: next because of the overthinking, overanalyzing. If that makes. 984 00:55:53,160 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: Sense, Yeah, sure, yeah, interesting Yeah, what's kind of what's 985 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: so what's your job now? 986 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 4: So I'm basically an executive administrator for a very big, 987 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 4: powerful organization. And yeah, it's it's a very comfortable position. 988 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 4: It's very cool position. I'm able to help a lot 989 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 4: of people and that's what I love the most. But 990 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 4: it's I want like the rural life and it's this 991 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 4: kind of job is more like city political you know, 992 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 4: smiley face when you want to burn everything down kind 993 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 4: of position, you know, And I hate that, but you 994 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 4: want it is now? Yeah, I do. Really I want 995 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 4: something quaint, the traditional like second white picket fence or 996 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 4: farm whatever, with the husband and the kids. That's what 997 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 4: I want. I don't want this fucking business woman shit. 998 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 4: That's so overrated for me. 999 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: Anyway, It's in your life and you're like like when 1000 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: you say like the rural life, like do you want 1001 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: to be like uh, like do you want to just 1002 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: like like just take care of the kids or do 1003 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: you want to have like work on a farm or 1004 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: like what's what's what can I add? What's what's the dream? 1005 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: Give me? Give me the dream for you like the dreams? 1006 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, dream scenario is, Yeah, I'm a work with my 1007 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 4: kids all day and me and my kids are doing 1008 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 4: farm work, helping with the goats and the rabbits and 1009 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 4: the you know, not the cows. That's a bit. That's 1010 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 4: a lot of work. And horses are too, but you know, 1011 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 4: at least like a homestead is kind of thing with 1012 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 4: the hobby that you know does his his gets his 1013 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 4: hands thirty two and is able to provide for us, 1014 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 4: and I provide for him, you know, in that way 1015 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 4: because of what he does for the family. You know, 1016 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 4: like that's that's what I want. And away from the city, 1017 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 4: away from too many people, I do want family around, 1018 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 4: but just you know, in general, it's good to be 1019 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 4: to create your own you know. 1020 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: M Now I'm curious and by the way I fall victim. 1021 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: People would not believe for a guy who runs a 1022 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: I really I hate calling this an advice podcast, but 1023 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: uh whatever, people I talk a bunch of shit on here, 1024 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: and people I don't I think, would be surprised at 1025 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: how often I google how to be happy, or overthink 1026 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: decisions or or you know, do I do all the 1027 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: things that you describe. I call a billion friends and 1028 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: talk to chat GPT about things and and and all 1029 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. And I so I feel actually kind of 1030 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: interesting asking you this question. But as from talking to 1031 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: you for two seconds, you sound like actually a person 1032 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: who's pretty confident about what they want out of life 1033 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: and who they are and whatever. That's just a projection 1034 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting upon you. And so what do you What 1035 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: are you overthinking? 1036 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 4: I think I overthink maybe that life that I just 1037 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 4: said to you right now in my head, I'm like, well, 1038 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 4: maybe that's not the way. Maybe I am supposed to 1039 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 4: be this cocktail hour business woman, maybe with a high 1040 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 4: rise and Florida sailing windows and fucking you know, girls' 1041 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 4: night and stuff like that, like the basic non traditional woman. 1042 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I second guess that, and then I 1043 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 4: second guess, hey, maybe this person isn't. 1044 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 3: The ones for me. 1045 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 4: And but then I'm like, wait, aren't you supposed to 1046 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 4: stay and fight for things? You know? And this is 1047 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 4: the most healthiest relationship I've ever been, and like he is, 1048 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 4: I love him, Like he's great. But again, past stuff, right, 1049 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 4: and then you second guess and overanalyze, and yeah, like 1050 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 4: I could take it back all the way to childhood 1051 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 4: type of overanalyzing. Like that's how much I go into 1052 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 4: the thinking I was even like I even have to 1053 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 4: get off of breath control because it was making me 1054 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 4: so existential evil. Like I would smoke weed and I 1055 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 4: was on birth control and I literally thought I was 1056 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 4: in other planes of existence because I was overthinking myself. 1057 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 4: But like, now I can do it. I'm true. I'm like, 1058 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: no birth control anything, and I smoke and I'm like, okay, 1059 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 4: I can analyze and not be thrown into other or 1060 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 4: of it. 1061 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, no, no, no, it's it's it's it's 1062 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: it's a it's a whole bar. It's one continuous bar, 1063 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: one complete bar. It's well, it's funny you say all 1064 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: this stuff because I I I was just saying that 1065 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know anything, and I've I've there are a 1066 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: couple of things I have come to fight that I 1067 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: can say that I believe with my whole heart that 1068 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: I I won't question. There's a couple of things. One 1069 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: is that I believe this in like I gutturally believe this, 1070 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: like when I am in a like because you know, 1071 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: there's there's sides of yourself, right, there's like you when 1072 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: your emotions are out of it and when you're like 1073 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,959 Speaker 1: in tune with your higher being and then there's you 1074 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: when you're like whatever, hungry or horny or sad or 1075 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: angry or happier joy to related, and you're like letting 1076 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: those emotions run the fucking show. But me, when I'm 1077 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: in my like a connected to what I feel like 1078 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: is like, oh, this is like my this is this 1079 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: is my uh uh superego or the or the high 1080 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: in that state of mind. I genuinely believe that, like 1081 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: the ability to make the decisions that I overthink is 1082 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: like a deep privilege. It's like a deep honor to 1083 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: even get to fucking decide. And and like again, when 1084 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm in, when I'm connected to my higher being, for 1085 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, one fucking second out of the day, which 1086 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I gain, I'm really typically not. I just want to 1087 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: make it clear, I'm really typically not. But when I am, 1088 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's how I really feel. It's like, oh, 1089 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,439 Speaker 1: it's just such a privilege to even be like, oh, 1090 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: which you know, you know, who will I fall in 1091 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: love with? And what cool career will I have? And 1092 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: like all these things are like they're privileges to even 1093 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: get to think about. Right, That's how I really feel. 1094 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: And so I know that to be true. When I've 1095 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: connected with my how you being normally I'm not thinking 1096 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: about that. No, no, but normally I'm overthinking and spiraling 1097 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But the other thing I know to be true. 1098 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I forgot while I was explaining the first thing, but oh, okay, 1099 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: I remember it now. I really feel like I'm coming 1100 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: to some conclude ninety I eighty. I'm not even sure 1101 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: how sure I am. That's how insane and I am. 1102 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I'm just gonna go with pretty sure. 1103 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put a number on it. I'm pretty 1104 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: sure that people in general are happier when they're just 1105 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: in the moments of the thing, you know, when they're 1106 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: just like when they're not overthinking, when they're not talking 1107 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: about death and overthinking every single one of their fucking decisions, 1108 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: and we're just like, oh, today I have to, you know, 1109 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: milk the cows, and I don't have time to think 1110 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: about whether or not, Uh, this is what I should 1111 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: be doing with my life because I gotta go milk 1112 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: these fucking cows. You know, I don't have time to 1113 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: think about it. I'm just fucking doing it. And I 1114 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: don't know it's hard. I because some people they uh 1115 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, some people are like, I don't have time 1116 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: to think about what are this shitty office job is 1117 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: making me miserable or not? Because I gotta do it, 1118 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: And that's not that's ultimately not good. There's a there's 1119 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: got there's some kind of like ideal optimal, you know, 1120 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: optimal balance between thinking about things and being in the 1121 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: moment to stuff. And I haven't found it, but I 1122 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: definitely know that like overthinking fucking everything is not the 1123 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: way to do it. And it's like this with I think, 1124 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I guess I guess relationships too, because on one hand, 1125 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: you could you could sit and think, oh, is this 1126 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the right thing for me, and then the other hand 1127 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: you could just be in the moment of whatever it is. 1128 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: And life is I guess like trips to the the 1129 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: the basement of I'm actually in my life versus the 1130 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: the attic of let me think about things for a second. 1131 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: And I guess you just I guess you balance that 1132 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: until you die. I don't know the proper thing. And 1133 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: also it's weird because some people, like we all have 1134 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: like friends who they just somehow they just are not 1135 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: over thinkers and they just do shit with their life 1136 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: and they don't think about it, and they just they're 1137 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: just innately fucking like born with it. Like I have 1138 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: friends like that, and I'm like, I don't know how 1139 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: they just I have friends who just do life perfectly 1140 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: without even thinking about it somehow, and then I have 1141 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: friends who cannot stop thinking. I leaned, I lean much 1142 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 1: closer to that part of the spectrum. And yeah, I 1143 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how much of this is 1144 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: just you're just born with more neuroticism versus you just are. 1145 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: It's you a person who does shit. But yeah, I don't. Ultimately, 1146 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: I guess when I'm in my when I'm in touch 1147 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: with my higher being for the one second of day 1148 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: that I am lucky to be, That's how I feel. 1149 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's it's a privilege most of the time, though, 1150 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I like every other human, like like a lot of 1151 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: other human beings on the planet, am you know, controlled 1152 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: by uh, fear based decision making and emotion based overthinking 1153 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and you know, all these fucking things. But yeah, that's 1154 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: my rant about anything. 1155 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 4: I loved it. That was great. It resonated for sure. 1156 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Well, uh, what how old are you? By the way, 1157 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be honest. When you first picked up 1158 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: the phone, I thought you were like, uh, fifteen, but 1159 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: now I think you might be like twenty eight. 1160 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 4: Oh shit, good job, yeah twenty eight. 1161 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: You're twenty. Okay, you're older than me, all right, I am. 1162 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 4: Well sometimes I like that though, honestly, sometimes you make 1163 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 4: me feel like I'm twenty or something like. 1164 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 3: Wait, I appreciate that. 1165 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Please take me, please take everything I just said to 1166 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: you at face value. Well it's funny though, because well, 1167 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something real quick. I was at a 1168 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I was at a bar, uh two nights ago, and 1169 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone and I was like, oh, 1170 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: how old are you? And they were like, I'm twenty 1171 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: two and they were like, ho old are you? And 1172 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm twenty seven and they made that 1173 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: face and they went, oh, like that was old, and 1174 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: it's fun It was funny to me because I literally, 1175 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: I swear my just yesterday, I was twenty two and 1176 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I literally had that exact same interaction fucking just yesterday 1177 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: where I was the twenty two year old and I 1178 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: met a guy who was twenty seven and I made 1179 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that fucking face when he told me. And it's so 1180 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: weird that I'm on the other end of that. I 1181 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: feel like I just flashed forward into like five fucking 1182 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: years or something. 1183 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just had like a mutual memory. 1184 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1185 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And now that i'm it's funny because I remember 1186 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: being like twenty two and I couldn't imagine what it 1187 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: would like to be like twenty seven. And now like 1188 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm gonna Reddit and you read a 1189 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Reddit post, like you read a Reddit comment or some 1190 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: guy's like, I'm forty six years old, and here's what's 1191 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 1: going on with me? And I'm like, you're telling me 1192 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be forty You're telling me that twenty 1193 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: fucking years later, I'm still going to like have problems 1194 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: and thoughts and feelings, and the streams keeps going. It's crazy. 1195 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: It's too much, so much to think about. It's insane. 1196 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 4: And that's why I have to stop myself because then 1197 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 4: everything else that's like literally in my face happening in 1198 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 4: my life is not going to get that way because 1199 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 4: I will go that far into my drinking. Yeah, back 1200 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 4: to what you said, just being present in the moment 1201 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 4: and having like that attitude of grace and gratitude that 1202 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 4: you get to have these fucking decisions be so in 1203 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 4: your life and not like, hey, what am I going 1204 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 4: to do the next day? Which money do have to 1205 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 4: think of? Like that? But I agree with you. And 1206 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 4: then also I do like I go to my faith 1207 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 4: a lot, and that does keep me grounded and stable 1208 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 4: half the time most of the time, actually five percent 1209 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 4: of the time. 1210 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Are you religious? 1211 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm yeah, sure, I guess, you know, I really it's 1212 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 4: the cliche thing where people say I have a relationship 1213 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,600 Speaker 4: with with Christ. You know, that's like that's how I 1214 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 4: see it. Cool, But yeah, religious. 1215 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Cool, cool. I think that's good. I think having a 1216 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I've been thinking about, like 1217 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: it's funny because I think when you're like when you're 1218 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: like a young atheist or whatever, you're kind of like 1219 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of like blow uh, I think, blow it off. 1220 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: But then you're like, oh, it's kind of nice to 1221 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 1: like believe in something, you know. M hmm. 1222 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a peace and comfort that comes with it. 1223 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 4: It's like, you don't I kind of like the thought 1224 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 4: of not having to control everything in my life. 1225 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 3: Like literally, if. 1226 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,839 Speaker 4: There was God could just take everything and do anything 1227 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 4: with my life, I wouldn't I wouldn't. 1228 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Mind, right, right, I was thinking about I was actually 1229 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: gonna bring this up when I was on this rant 1230 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 1: is I'm if somebody has, if somebody had there's an 1231 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: experience with this, please call in. I would love to 1232 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: talk to you. But I was thinking about like arranged marriage, 1233 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, on one hand, it's like, oh, 1234 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: arranged marriage, it's like the ultimate like uh, you know, 1235 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: lack of freedom like your parents. It's a very like 1236 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,719 Speaker 1: Unamerican idea like your parents, like pick who you're gonna 1237 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: like your life is like chosen. This huge thing is 1238 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 1: like chosen for you, you know, and it's like a 1239 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: very I don't know, Like I there there's a lot 1240 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: of course on paper wrong with that idea. But then 1241 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm a little bit like, oh, 1242 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: there's something about like you're okay, this is what you 1243 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: got to deal with, and no, you don't get to 1244 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: decide whether or not it works for you. You just have 1245 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: to fucking deal with it. I'm like, oh, that has Yeah, 1246 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that probably has like prose to it. 1247 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: If someone is listening to this and has experienced with it, 1248 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: please call it. I'm curious about it because they might 1249 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: call it and be like it sucked. 1250 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, I can't even speak on that. I 1251 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 4: thought the same as you. I can't speak on it. 1252 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 4: No arrange my maverages over here, but just the thought 1253 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 4: of like if I had a healthy family dynamic and relationship, 1254 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 4: they would have my best interest in picking you know, 1255 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,560 Speaker 4: this person who's going to be able to provide for 1256 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 4: me and for the family, right, because it's the whole endeavor, 1257 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 4: it's not just about me and this other person. It 1258 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 4: feels comforting in a way. But again I can't speak 1259 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 4: on it's not a part of my circle. But that's 1260 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 4: my thoughts anyway. But pros and cons are everything, and 1261 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 4: like you said, everything's a balanced. 1262 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: Well Stella, is there anything else that you wanted to 1263 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 1: talk about or say to the people of the computer 1264 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: before we go, Not at all. 1265 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,679 Speaker 4: Also, your voice sounds completely normal. Doesn't sound any different 1266 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 4: than on the podcast. 1267 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: Well good, I'm very honored to have a normal voice. 1268 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 4: Yes, normal it can be. 1269 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: It was great talking to you, talking to you too, Stella. 1270 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I hope you have a good rest of your entire life. 1271 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: And I will, I will, I will see you around 1272 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the universe. 1273 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 3: Yep. 1274 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 4: I send to you. 1275 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: All right, take care? Stell all right? Is it stella arose? Stera? Stella? 1276 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna figure out how you fucking pronounce 1277 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: this stella? Okay, well, everyone's everyone, Everyone shut up for 1278 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: a second. I'm trying to think everyone. Everyone's, everyone's I'm 1279 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: trying to think everyone stop. Okay, Stella erotis are totis? 1280 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Why would you name your products something that people can't 1281 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: even say it? Stella are I'm gonna say it's stella artois. 1282 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 1: How do you pronounce it? Stella artois phonetic pronounce pronounce 1283 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 1: pronunciation are ta? What the fuck? Okay, it's stella artois. 1284 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,879 Speaker 1: This looks if you read it literally, it's stella artois. 1285 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm calling it artis. Why would you name your product 1286 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: something that people can't say what it is? Okay? Sorry, 1287 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 1: goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night. 1288 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: The pan goes to his side. He's teaching you cloud 1289 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: of your life, but he's not really an expert.