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Speaker 3: Speaking of the abolished Ice movements political momentum, New York

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Speaker 3: City Mayor Zorn mom Donnie made his case for abolishing

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Speaker 3: ice onwhere else but the View He was back with

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Speaker 3: the ladies yesterday. Let's get to that, be honest.

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Speaker 4: It feels incredible. Yeah, you know, this is the dream

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Speaker 4: of a lifetime, and we've always wanted to build a

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Speaker 4: city government that moves as fast as New Yorkers.

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Speaker 5: Do.

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Speaker 4: You know, when a New Yorker is trying to walk somewhere,

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Speaker 4: you don't get in their way. City government it hasn't

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Speaker 4: felt like that for long time. So we've wanted to

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Speaker 4: say that there's not going to be any problem too

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Speaker 4: big or too small for us to address. So day

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Speaker 4: one we put bad landlords on notice. Right after that

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Speaker 4: inauguration speech, you know, Day six we fixed a bump

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Speaker 4: on the Williamsburg Bridge. Day eight we announced more than

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Speaker 3: That was a bump, by the way, huge money.

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Speaker 4: That's coming from the state. And what that does is

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Speaker 4: it allows us to fix universal childcare for three year

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Speaker 4: olds and deliver it for two year olds. We actually

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Speaker 4: have a mother in the audience, Mallory, who is here

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Speaker 4: with us and who when the announcement was made, texted

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Speaker 4: these are decisions families are making on their own, but

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Speaker 4: childcare costs twenty five twenty six thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: Now it's something that they can actually get for free.

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Speaker 3: All right, So lots of friendly or was aramm Donnie

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Speaker 3: once again on the view here he is on abolishing

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Speaker 2: Light of recent events, there have been renewed calls from

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Speaker 3: I want to know where you come down on.

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Speaker 6: Abolishing ICE, and if you believe the ICE has any

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Speaker 4: Role, you know I am in support of abolishing ICE,

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Speaker 4: and I'll tell you why, because what we what we

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Speaker 4: see is an entity that has no interest in fulfilling

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Speaker 4: but instead what it's doing is terrorizing people, no matter

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Speaker 4: their immigration status, no matter the facts of the law,

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Speaker 4: ICE is not it, and we have not seen that

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Speaker 3: And finally, one more skeptical question from a view house,

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Speaker 3: Let's roll it clip.

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Speaker 6: One of your first acts as mayor was revoking executive

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Speaker 6: you've spoken to this a little bit with Alyssa's question,

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Speaker 6: had to resign over resurfaced anti Semitic social posts. How

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Speaker 6: do you answer to Jewish New Yorkers, which is the

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Speaker 4: So this is an administration that will root out anti

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Speaker 4: like you belong in a city. That's what we want

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Speaker 3: Okay, So most of those women either just work in

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Speaker 3: they are voters.

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Speaker 5: Have any voted for them?

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Speaker 3: I highly doubt that that's Sunny awesome I have voted

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Speaker 3: for him? I don't know. But they're thoroughly charmed. I mean,

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Speaker 3: here you have moderate wealthy women in New York City

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Speaker 3: dsa trade.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how can you with that smile? Come on,

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Speaker 7: On the question of the anti semitism definition, I wish

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Speaker 7: sometimes he would spell out, like why.

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Speaker 5: He got rid of it?

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Speaker 7: It explicitly conflates criticism of Israel with anti Semitism, like

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Speaker 7: things that it considers a legal definition of anti semptm,

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Speaker 7: Like I wish you would kind of just say that

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Speaker 7: wants to kind of hit Eric Adams instead. Let's linger

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Speaker 7: for one second on that, on that fixing the bump

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Speaker 7: on the Williamsburg Bridge. It sounds silly, no do, but

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Speaker 7: like that a combined with the deep scening of the subway.

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Speaker 7: of the city, including Mamdani. And he's like, you know what,

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Speaker 7: let's fix that, Just do it. And he showed up

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Speaker 7: and like thank the guys for fixing it, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's so easy, it's low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 7: People are so grateful to like see the city do

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Speaker 7: something to make their life better, even if it's as

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Speaker 7: small as like making their their ride like a little

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Speaker 7: bit safer. Intern MJ put together list of a bunch

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Speaker 7: of the other executive actions that he's rolled out really quick.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if we have any elements for these,

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Speaker 7: but I can go through some of them. He re

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Speaker 7: established the Mayor's office to protect tenants. He did a

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Speaker 3: Kind of is that the COEO Weaver office.

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Speaker 5: She's involved in that.

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Speaker 7: He did a bunch of other things to accelerate housing

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Speaker 5: Nimbi's in the in the process. We don't have to

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Speaker 3: She is the director of that. So maybe not the

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Speaker 7: Case, but he has stood by her, you know, suggested

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Speaker 7: he got rid of the person that was mentioned who

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Speaker 7: had some you know, anti Semitic posts. They mentioned it

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Speaker 7: in the clip there that one of his people had

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Speaker 5: By the way, that person is there's Jewish or she's

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Speaker 5: married to a Jewish person.

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Speaker 7: Like yeah, but had said but had said some tweet

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Speaker 7: that was like this is indefensible. It's like looks anti Semitic.

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Speaker 7: The fact that you are, we know you're not doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: Like it looks bad, and so they did she did withdraw.

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Speaker 7: But if you notice what the political effect of that is,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be constantly brought up as as an

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Speaker 7: indictment against him.

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Speaker 5: Did you notice how that question was framed. It wasn't like.

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Speaker 7: You got rid of this person, therefore that's a good

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Speaker 7: thing and shows that you're willing to fight anti semitism.

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Speaker 7: It was used as an example of how actually your

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Speaker 7: administration is shot through with anti semitism. So there's this

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Speaker 7: that's that's the trap of of getting rid of people,

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Speaker 7: Like if you get rid of Sea Weaver, it's like,

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Speaker 7: oh no, I had white people you got you got

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Speaker 7: rid of this one person hates white.

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Speaker 3: The politics of it were very smart.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, stick.

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Speaker 7: And then it tells a New York Post like, don't

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Speaker 3: It's not the bait. Isn't going to.

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Speaker 5: Maybe do two articles next time, not seven.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to send the photographer.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you don't want to stake out her apartment.

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Speaker 5: Let's see what else do you do? You know the

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Speaker 5: free childcare? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I saw the announced new commitment to expand access

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Speaker 7: to public bathrooms. And you've already seen that, Like they're

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Speaker 7: already opening up new bathrooms, Like people like, yes, more bathrooms.

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Speaker 3: Good, he's picking a lot of low hanging fruit that

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Speaker 3: if you come from dsa organizing world, you are going

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Speaker 3: to be equipped to pick in way that if you're

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Speaker 3: Andrew Cuomo in a bubble of wealth, right privilege, you

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Speaker 5: And there's some Lina con stuff in here.

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Speaker 7: Department of Consumer Worker Protection crack down on illegal subscription

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Speaker 7: tactics like fighting subscription tricks and traps, like when you

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Speaker 7: try to get rid of your breaking points premium subscription

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Speaker 7: and we when we see somebody does no, Actually that's true.

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Speaker 7: Nobody has ever never happened. Nobody's ever tried to do that.

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Speaker 7: Why would you?

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Zoron has a BP subscription.

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Speaker 7: Look his email up in there. He should even one

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Speaker 7: waste his time with the ads.

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Speaker 3: No, right, he's busy.

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Speaker 7: Sued The same agency sued predatory delivery app Moto Click

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Speaker 7: and the CEO for violating the city's delivery worker laws.

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Speaker 7: Warren Delivery Apps to comply with worker protections, announced two

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Speaker 7: point one million dollars settlement to address hazardous condition and

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Speaker 7: tenant harassment across fourteen buildings. Restarted the Just Home Supportive

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Speaker 7: Housing initiative, which would create eighty three new homes, which

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Speaker 7: had which reverse something that Eric Adams had done. And

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Speaker 7: it's January twenty first, like he's been in for exactly

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Speaker 7: three weeks at this point, So I like his idea

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Speaker 7: that New Yorker's walked fastest that he needs to also.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's repetitive for us to say this at

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Speaker 3: this point because we've literally been saying this since before

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Speaker 3: anybody knew his name. But he's very talented, and it

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Speaker 3: is completely obvious to the point where again, not only

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Speaker 3: did he charm Donald Trump, but when you have moderate

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Speaker 3: but they've seen a couple of weeks of your administration.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll say how long lasts, but that in

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Speaker 3: We'll obviously continue to follow that story, no question about it.

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Speaker 8: It's Miss Rachel, and I'm so happy to see you

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Speaker 7: So it was Miss Rachel versus the IDF. Miss Rachel

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Speaker 7: So they have this kind of sword hanging over their

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Speaker 7: Remarkable piece of evidence about how much confidence they have

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Speaker 3: Well, and we can put this drop site report up

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yes.

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Speaker 7: And so the whole the whole piece is worth going through,

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Speaker 5: Will you will have a roof over your head.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the next element we have here speaking of

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Speaker 3: Which, what's the Tony Blair involvement in this?

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Speaker 7: He was he invited apparently invited Lula, a bunch of

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Speaker 7: They asked if he'd pay the billion dollars, and he said, well,

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Speaker 3: who are ultimately ultimately going to be leaning in one direction.

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Speaker 7: They also seem to be forgetting that the Palestinian people

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Speaker 7: still exist and Hamas still exists, Like this is.

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Speaker 5: You can they can wish them away.

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Speaker 7: They reached a ceasefire, Israel as badly did the ceasefire

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Speaker 7: and basically on a daily basis, killing multiple people a

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Speaker 7: day since it went into effect. But Hamas is still there,

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Speaker 7: So like, what's like, how do you they seem to

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Speaker 7: be trying to just skip over this that part of it,

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Speaker 7: skipping to a place where you'd like to be.

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Speaker 3: Because they won the war and eradicated Hamas.

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Speaker 7: Right in, that's fifty three percent they did, and they've

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Speaker 7: completely leveled it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but what did Blinken say as Biden was leaving

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Speaker 3: office that they've reconstituted.

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Speaker 7: The same number of fighters as at the beginning. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and and they rely on unexploded Israeli ordinance, you know,

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Speaker 7: for their explosive homemade you know, a lot of homemade

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Speaker 7: ammunition in that sense. So like, I don't it just

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Speaker 7: seems like kind of fantasy stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll see where it goes from here. Ran,

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Speaker 3: we have a guest who is joining us. Now, let's get.

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Speaker 7: To him, all right, So joining us how to discuss

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Speaker 7: all this is Zishon Hafiz, who's running for Congress in

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Speaker 7: Texas's thirty third district. Zishon, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for the opportunity. It's a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 9: And thank you for the amazing journalistic work that you

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Speaker 9: all do.

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Speaker 5: Oh Man, buttering us up to start, this is going

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Speaker 5: to go smoothly. I see.

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Speaker 9: I truly mean it. I truly mean it. You're doing

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Speaker 9: a great service for the progressive cause across the country,

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Speaker 9: and I truly do appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Emily doesn't. I don'd like to hear that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, the conservatives would say that I do a great

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Speaker 3: services there.

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Speaker 1: You do?

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Speaker 9: You do? You do too, Emily.

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Speaker 5: Oh Man, oh man, Now she's in trouble.

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Speaker 7: So the reason we wanted to have you on is

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Speaker 7: because you're you're kind of a different kind of congressional candidate.

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Speaker 7: And so in the thirty third district right now there

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Speaker 7: are it's basically a three way race.

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Speaker 5: You're in third place.

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Speaker 7: But the reason we think you have it at least

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Speaker 7: a fighting chance and there is that you have two

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Speaker 7: members of Congress, or is Colin all Right now a

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Speaker 7: former member of Congress at this.

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Speaker 9: Point technically former members.

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Speaker 7: So you have Julie Johnson who's a Democrat, and Colin Allred,

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Speaker 7: who's also a Democrat, former football player who was going

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Speaker 7: to run for Senate but then kind of got elbowed out.

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Speaker 7: Of that race and is now running against Julie Johnson

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Speaker 7: in this kind of redrawn district. So Texas, as we

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Speaker 7: all saw, famously redrew its district just like California, as

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Speaker 7: Mother States did to try to goose the number of

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Speaker 7: Republicans that could win in the States. So they're kind

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Speaker 7: of cramming all the Democrats they can into the race.

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Speaker 7: And my read is that if it was just you

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Speaker 7: against a known member of Congress, then that's a pretty

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Speaker 7: tough fight. You against two members of Congress who might

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Speaker 7: split that kind of establishment vote could potentially let you

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Speaker 7: slip into into a runoff, because Texas has this runoff

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Speaker 7: system where if nobody gets fifty percent, the top two.

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Speaker 5: Go into the runoff.

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Speaker 7: So we just we just put up E six again

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Speaker 7: for for a second to let you know what we

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Speaker 7: were talking about kind of earlier in the show. This

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Speaker 7: is this is in the shake Dan neighborhood of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 7: The Israeli government just literally destroying unra's headquarters. This is

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Speaker 7: the un agency in charge of doing relief education and

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Speaker 7: you know, health healthcare for all standing refugees at Gaza

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Speaker 7: West Bank in Syria, in Jordan, and so on and

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Speaker 7: so I'm curious what role. First of all, are you

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Speaker 7: are you taking a PAC money? That's the Jennifer Welch

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Speaker 7: question that every candidate now guess has. And what role

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Speaker 7: is Israel's ongoing genocide playing in congressional races now that

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Speaker 7: we're in a kind of era of a so called

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Speaker 7: cease fire.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely no, First off, it's not a ceasefire. There's been

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Speaker 9: over fourteen hundred violations of the ceasefire. There have been

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Speaker 9: over five hundred people killed in Gaza, over two hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty people killed in the West Bank. Those are

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Speaker 9: just very conservative estimates. So I would not say there

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Speaker 9: is a ceasefire by any means. That genocide continues. Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: You can tell by the fact that I'm using the

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Speaker 9: term genocide that I absolutely refuse APAC and all pro

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Speaker 9: Israel money. My two opponents, Julie Johnson and Colin already

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Speaker 9: have received a combined seven hundred thousand dollars from APAC

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Speaker 9: and the pro Israel lobby. And the fact of the

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Speaker 9: matter is we need people in Congress right now that

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Speaker 9: are willing to be on the right side of history.

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Speaker 9: Not only would the genocide, I think if you look

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Speaker 9: at Colin and Julie. They're both establishment Democrats, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 9: but on top of that, they do not stand on

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Speaker 9: the side of abolishing ice. They do not stand on

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Speaker 9: the side of fighting for the affordability crisis with real

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Speaker 9: solutions like a real living wage of twenty dollars per hour,

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Speaker 9: affordable housing for all, providing universal health care through Medicare

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Speaker 9: for All. These are real progressive issues. And the fact

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Speaker 9: is that District thirty three is now a district that

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Speaker 9: Kamala Harris won by thirty two points. And on top

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Speaker 9: of that, this is a very low turnout district. In

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty four, there was only twenty two thousand total

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Speaker 9: votes in the Democratic primary, and in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 9: there was only twenty four thousand votes. It's a very

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Speaker 9: low turnout race, historic race where we have a progressive

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Speaker 9: challenger up against two establishment Democrats who are both bought

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Speaker 9: and paid for by the pro Israel lobby.

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Speaker 3: Well, that point about turnout rates is really important.

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Speaker 5: It's insane twenty two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, is that Are you sensing that

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Speaker 3: this issue is what energizes or one of many issues,

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Speaker 3: but probably one of the primary issues that energizes people

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Speaker 3: to get involved in campaigns like yours, and then to

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Speaker 3: end up actually voting. I mean, primaries can be low energy,

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Speaker 3: low turnout and all of that. So when you're trying

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Speaker 3: to squeeze in in a race like this, do you

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Speaker 3: find that's what? Right now? When you're out there campaigning,

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Speaker 3: this is one of those things that gets people goingly.

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Speaker 9: This is the one issue that gets standing ovations, that

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Speaker 9: gets the crowd excited, that gets people excited because I

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Speaker 9: am the.

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Speaker 3: Only lot of other people. Do you find it's a

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Speaker 3: lot of younger people.

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Speaker 9: It's younger people, it's older people, it's people of color,

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Speaker 9: it's everyone, anyone of conscious. I think that numbers have

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Speaker 9: said that ninety two percent of Democrats are against Israeli

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Speaker 9: military actions in Gaza. In what's happening. A lot of

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Speaker 9: people are starting to see that it's a genocide. And

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Speaker 9: I think this is a defining line and a defining

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Speaker 9: moment in the Democratic Party this year that people, the

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Speaker 9: primary voters will not support APAX sponsored candidates anymore. And

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Speaker 9: I think this is also a moment to your point, Emily,

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Speaker 9: where young voters are getting very excited because they want

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Speaker 9: to do something about what's happening over there, they have

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Speaker 9: seen the genocideferral on their social media in ways that

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Speaker 9: have never happened in modern history and any other sort

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Speaker 9: of action. So this is something that's not only energizing

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Speaker 9: young voters, but it's energizing minorities and progressive voters, the

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Speaker 9: Labor Union, a lot of folks are very excited about this,

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Speaker 9: and my opponents, both Julie Johnson Colin Alred refuse to

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Speaker 9: call it a genocide. One of my opponents refuses to

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Speaker 9: even talk about She refuses to even discuss Palestine in

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Speaker 9: any of the public forums that we're at, even though

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Speaker 9: just last week she approved three point three billion dollars

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Speaker 9: more to go and commit this genocide on our name

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Speaker 9: when Americans are dealing with an affordability crisis at home.

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Speaker 7: You know, I've heard people say, and I think ton

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Speaker 7: Ossi Coates put it best when he said something like

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Speaker 7: people care about the issue because of the human cost,

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Speaker 7: the human toll, but it's also a proxy for whether

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Speaker 7: or not you're willing to kind of fight for anything

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Speaker 7: at all. I think his quote was something like, if

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Speaker 7: you're not willing to draw the line at genocide, how

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Speaker 7: can I trust you to fight for democracy? So with

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Speaker 7: that being said, in this Dallas district, what is the

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Speaker 7: thing that people want you to be fighting for in

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Speaker 7: back in Dallas, Like, what is the thing that is

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Speaker 7: animating people right now?

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Speaker 9: I mean, there are a number of issues locally that

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Speaker 9: are mattering to the local people in Dallas. One of

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Speaker 9: the things is rapid transit. DART has recently been defunded

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Speaker 9: by multiple cities within the Dallas for Worth area. The

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Speaker 9: federal government must come in and build a real transit

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Speaker 9: system for Dallas for Worth. But on top of that,

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Speaker 9: it's the standard things that matter to Americans all across

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Speaker 9: the country. Imagine if we were able to invest in

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Speaker 9: a Green New Deal. The reason why we don't have

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Speaker 9: a Green New Deal for Dallas for Worth is we've

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Speaker 9: been represented by people that are bought and sold by

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Speaker 9: the oil lobby. I'm proud not only to be endorsed

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Speaker 9: by citizens against a pac corruption, but also citizens against

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Speaker 9: big oil and track oil packs. So the fact of

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Speaker 9: the matter is that we have a government that is

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Speaker 9: being bought and sold and run by corporations, by foreign lobbies,

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Speaker 9: and by the billionaires. And I think the average American

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Speaker 9: today is hurting. There's an affordability crisis, and they are

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Speaker 9: having trouble not only paying rent, but affording groseres and

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Speaker 9: taking care of the fundamentals to take care of their family.

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Speaker 9: They would rather have someone who's going to fight for

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Speaker 9: free public education, someone who's going to make sure that

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Speaker 9: we have free public universities, free public trade schools, and

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Speaker 9: free public colleges like to have in Europe, and invest

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Speaker 9: in kindergarten through twelfth grade by providing actual increases to

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Speaker 9: teacher pay. I think that in this country it's a

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Speaker 9: sham that ICE agents get fifty thousand dollars signing bonuses,

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Speaker 9: while teachers are lucky to get one to three thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars to go in very specialized fields, and teachers start

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Speaker 9: out at pays that are less than fifty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 9: whereas ICE agents are making six figures. I think that's

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Speaker 9: unacceptable and our nation has the wrong priorities because we

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Speaker 9: have politicians they're not willing to start fights on the

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Speaker 9: right issues.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of that, actually, let's put this post from

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Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham up on the screen. This is E nine

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Speaker 3: over the conflict in Syria right now. Lindsey Graham has

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Speaker 3: said there's use of military force by the new Syrian

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Speaker 3: government against Syrian cards in the SDF. That would create

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Speaker 3: tremendous instability in Syria in the region, and would tell

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Speaker 3: me all I need to know about this new regime.

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Speaker 3: If military action is taken by the Syrian government, I

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Speaker 3: will do everything in my power to revive the Caesar

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Speaker 3: Act sanctions, making them even more bone crushing. Now, of

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Speaker 3: course you're not running against Lindsay Graham, but right now

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration is facing criticism from Republicans and even

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Speaker 3: internally that it's so focused on foreign conflicts, from Venezuela

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Speaker 3: to Canada, to Greenland to of course, basically all of

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Speaker 3: the Trump was constantly talking about how he solved eight wars,

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Speaker 3: and he just repeated today that the UN should have

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Speaker 3: solved all of these eight wars that he solved. I

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Speaker 3: noticed when we were talking about Israel earlier, you mentioned

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Speaker 3: I think you could tell us a little bit about this,

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Speaker 3: but you pivoted to while we have an affordability crisis

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Speaker 3: at home, that Republicans are doing X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 3: or your opponents are doing X, Y and Z. While

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Speaker 3: we have affordability crisis at home, you talk a little

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Speaker 3: bit about how making that connection is powerful with voters.

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Speaker 3: In your experience, I imagine you've noticed that's something that.

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Speaker 9: Lands absolutely and that's a great point that you bring up.

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Speaker 9: First off, Donald Trump has launched nine illegal invasions in

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Speaker 9: the last year as a quote unquote peace president. The

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Speaker 9: peace president has gone and essentially declared war on Venezuela

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Speaker 9: without congressional approval, without there being a clear and imminent

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Speaker 9: threat to the United States. So what he is doing

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Speaker 9: is completely illegal and completely an impeachable offense. Instead of

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Speaker 9: invading Venezuela, instead of fighting foreign wars, instead of potentially

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Speaker 9: bombing Syria, Iran and other countries like I'm sure Lindsay

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Speaker 9: Graham and others on the extreme right wing of the

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Speaker 9: Republican Party would want to do, the American people would

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Speaker 9: rather us invest at home. And the fact of the

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Speaker 9: matter is, it's not just Republicans, it's establishment Democrats, the

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Speaker 9: Julie Johnson's and Colin Allreds of the world that allow

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Speaker 9: the Republicans to get away with this, because the fact

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Speaker 9: of the matter is they are bought and sold by

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Speaker 9: APAK and the pros reel lobby. An APAC would love

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Speaker 9: nothing less than for the United States to go and

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Speaker 9: bomb Syria, bomb Iran and destabilize the Middle East. So

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Speaker 9: whereas the American people would rather have someone who's going

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Speaker 9: to fight for stronger unions, who's going to fight for

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Speaker 9: veterans benefits, veterans in my district are struggling, the va

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Speaker 9: IS highly underfunded. Money could go to help providing better

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Speaker 9: lives to the people that fought for our country instead

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Speaker 9: of providing instead of making more veterans who are going

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Speaker 9: to come back with PTSD, who are going to be

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Speaker 9: under threat because we're declaring war on Iran or Syria

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Speaker 9: or anywhere else, we should be instead investing in the

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Speaker 9: people who have already had to survive these form wars,

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Speaker 9: people who came back from Afghanistan, people who came back

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Speaker 9: from Iraq, people who came back from Vietnam and had

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Speaker 9: to deal with the same things that our government is

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Speaker 9: doing again. I think the American people know where this

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Speaker 9: leads us, and they would rather us invest here at home.

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Speaker 9: Why can't we do things like what Bernie Sanders has

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Speaker 9: proposed and invest in millions and millions of affordable housing units,

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Speaker 9: so who can fight a real war. The war that

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Speaker 9: we should be fighting is the war on homelessness. One

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Speaker 9: of my local communities here has recently passed a resolution

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Speaker 9: to ban homelessness. That is not a real solution. We

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Speaker 9: should be fighting a war on homelessness by building affordabil

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Speaker 9: housing units all across the country so that everyone can

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Speaker 9: live a dignified life under a roof under their head

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Speaker 9: and their family's heads. That's what's important to the American

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Speaker 9: people right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, Zishan Hafez, thanks so much for joining us, and

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Speaker 7: good luck in your race.

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Speaker 5: We'll be tracking it. When's the primary?

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Speaker 9: The primary actually starts with early voting on February seventeenth.

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Speaker 9: It goes from February seventeenth to the twenty seventh. The

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Speaker 9: actual election is on March third, and we hope to

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Speaker 9: take down to pro Zionists, pro Israel, APAX sponsored corporate

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Speaker 9: establishment Democrats and bring a progressive blue wave that happened

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Speaker 9: in twenty sixteen after twenty sixteen when Donald Trump first

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Speaker 9: came out into power. We hope that it will come

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Speaker 9: again in reaction to his most recent attack on our government,

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Speaker 9: on our democrat see it on our civil rights.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, And it's one of those weird situations

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Speaker 7: where it's doable and it says it like in Joe

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Speaker 7: Crowley versus aoc IS election, forty thousand people maybe actually

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Speaker 7: something like forty thousand people voted, like it's not many

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Speaker 7: at all.

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Speaker 9: This is way less than that, and as less than that.

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Speaker 9: Joe Crowley was actually about to be the Speaker of

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Speaker 9: the House. He was one of the most powerful people

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Speaker 9: in Congress. I'm going up against a one term congress

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Speaker 9: person and someone who hasn't been in Congress, who could

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Speaker 9: not win a Senate seat. So this is an entirely

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Speaker 9: winnable seat. And the American people, the people of District

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Speaker 9: thirty three, are tired of these politicians that are being

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Speaker 9: bought by corporations, being bought by foreign interests, and are

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Speaker 9: not taking care of the American people at home and

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Speaker 9: fighting for the issues that matter to the American people.

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Speaker 9: So I encourage everyone who's interested in learning more about

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Speaker 9: our campaign to visit our website www. Dot z shoon

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Speaker 9: for Texas dot com. We'd love for you to phone, bank, contribute,

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Speaker 9: be involved. We're going to win this race. I'm going

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Speaker 9: to turn this if this country's going to go blue,

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Speaker 9: if there's a plus thirty two Democratic district, we don't

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Speaker 9: need another corporate centrist democrat. We need a true progressive

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Speaker 9: who's going to fight for the values and start fights

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Speaker 9: for us to go and support the American people and

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Speaker 9: fight the real that the crisis real home, that crisis

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Speaker 9: of the affordability crisis.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's see if there's ten thousand people, like,

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Speaker 7: it's not that many people out of a district of set.

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Speaker 9: We're saying fifteen thousand to be conservative based off of

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Speaker 9: a thirty thousand vote total. It's only it's less than

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Speaker 9: ten thousand just to get to a runoff because of

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Speaker 9: the three candidates in the race. It's not that many people.

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Speaker 9: And that's if you look historically, there's not many races

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Speaker 9: across the country where it's just so few votes. So

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Speaker 9: this is a great chance to be involved in some

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Speaker 9: real progress with someone who's not going to fight for corporations,

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Speaker 9: won't take a single cent from corporate packs or anything else,

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Speaker 9: who will end citizens United and corporations control over our

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Speaker 9: government and instead return the power to the only interest

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Speaker 9: that matters the interests of the American people.

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Speaker 5: All right, thank you, Zishan.

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Speaker 7: Up next, we're going to be doing updates from the

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Speaker 7: conflict in Sudan.

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Speaker 5: Stick around for that. Please, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia has announced a deal with the Sudanese government

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Speaker 7: to start buying its gold.

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Speaker 5: We put up f one here.

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Speaker 7: So last year, something like ninety nine percent of Sudanese

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Speaker 7: gold was sold to the United Arab Emirates, which is

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Speaker 7: basically a crime family that masquerades as a country that

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Speaker 7: engages in a lot of money laundering and other and

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Speaker 7: other services that are useful to Western governments and crime syndicates.

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Speaker 7: About most of that gold, like the bulk of it

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Speaker 7: was sold through the black market, but even the gold

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Speaker 7: that was sold through the regular market went through the UAE.

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Speaker 7: Sudan is one of the one of the countries that

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Speaker 7: has kind of the greatest kind of stores of gold

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Speaker 7: remaining gold prices over the last year of surge.

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Speaker 5: Like if you were, if you're if you were.

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Speaker 7: A goldbug the last last it's been, it's been a

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Speaker 7: good run for you for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So now Saudi Arabia, as it's going through it's hot

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Speaker 7: war and its fallout with the UAE, is announcing that

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Speaker 7: it's going to send the Sudanese It's going to purchase

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Speaker 7: Sudanese Golden put it through its own kind of processing

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Speaker 7: facilities that it has in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 5: This is all part of the crack up between.

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Speaker 7: These one time allies in the Gulf that is entirely

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Speaker 7: reshaping relations everywhere, you know, from Africa into into Asia.

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Speaker 7: The UAE is backing the that's the United Arab Emirates.

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Speaker 7: They're backing what's called the RSF Rapid Support Forces, which

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Speaker 7: is if you remember the janja weed from the Darfur

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Speaker 7: conflict back in twenty years ago. They're basically a derivative

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Speaker 7: of the of the janja weed which carried the carry

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Speaker 7: out of genocide.

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Speaker 5: Then they're doing it again now. The ue is arming

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Speaker 5: them to the hilt. You can put up F two.

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Speaker 7: They even got into a border clash with Chad and

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Speaker 7: are sort of apologizing for that. They're realizing they're kind

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Speaker 7: of over overstepping things a little bit here as their

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Speaker 7: patrons are coming under intense pressure. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and

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Speaker 7: Pakistan have teamed up to offer like a billion plus

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Speaker 7: weapons package to the Sudanese army. If that if that

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Speaker 7: comes through and the rsf's supply chains are cut off,

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Speaker 7: that's going it's gonna be difficult for them to keep

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Speaker 7: carrying out there the assault that they're under the offense

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Speaker 7: of that is underway in Sudan.

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Speaker 3: Now, well and give us the big picture ripple effect

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Speaker 3: potentially of this as well. We can put the next

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Speaker 3: element on the screen. This is from Reuters and this

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Speaker 3: was just from Monday. India u a E signed three

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Speaker 3: billion dollar liquid national natural gas deal agreed to boost

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Speaker 3: trade and defense ties at leaders meeting. That's the Reuter's headline. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: the international I mean, it's it's it's crazy to see

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Speaker 3: the it's not crazy, it's it's predictable. But a proxy

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Speaker 3: conflict like this bring in even bigger players than just

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Speaker 3: Saudi and UAE. I mean, it's it's all over hitting

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Speaker 3: people all over the world against each other in a

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Speaker 3: proxy conflict that is primarily between them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly this.

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Speaker 7: You know, this, this war between you know, Saudi and

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Speaker 7: the UEE really started in Yemen and then rolled into

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Speaker 7: into Sudan, where in Sudan it has taken the lives

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Speaker 7: of hundreds of thousands of people.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, to now Rope in India.

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Speaker 7: The way to think about it is that you know

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Speaker 7: Pakistan and India, you know could oil and water could

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Speaker 7: not hate each other anymore. And so that as Saudi

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Speaker 7: Arabia has linked up with with Pakistan and tightened its

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Speaker 7: relationship a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago

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Speaker 7: more uh in day InKo security agreement with Pakistan, which

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Speaker 7: gives Saudi Arabia then the kind of nuclear umbrella of

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Speaker 7: the of the Pakistan Pakistani nuclear weapons, so that they're

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Speaker 7: tightening their relationship. And so then as Saudi Arabia and

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Speaker 7: the UE fallout, the UAE links up with with India.

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Speaker 5: They also have ideological sympathy with each other.

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Speaker 7: The UAE ironically is as as like hostile to Islam,

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Speaker 7: as as a quote unquote Muslim.

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Speaker 5: Country could possibly be.

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Speaker 7: Like they're out funding Tommy Robinson to go around like

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Speaker 7: attacking Muslims, like they're they're constantly whipping up Islamophobia in Europe.

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Speaker 5: Like this is the UAE, Like.

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Speaker 7: It's I know, like if you're just coming to this fresh,

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Speaker 7: you're like wait a minute, what, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange. And there's like Arab Spring. They hated

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Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the UE hates the Muslim Brotherhood, hates Cutter, which

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Speaker 7: they called like an outcropping of Muslim brotherhood. Uh, they

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Speaker 7: felt like the Arab spring, which was pushing for democracy

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Speaker 7: in the Gulf, was a direct threat to their autocratic role,

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Speaker 7: which of course it was.

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Speaker 5: It is like they they're they're like a.

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Speaker 7: Couple thousand people, you know, ruling over this you know,

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Speaker 7: extraordinary amount of wealth and people and and migrant labor.

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Speaker 7: Like it's like apartheid doesn't even do justice to the

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Speaker 7: level of inequality political and legal and financial that in

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Speaker 7: economic that exists in their country. So there so they

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Speaker 7: see any of that as as a threat.

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Speaker 5: Uh, they led.

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Speaker 7: The the coup to overthrow morcy in the Muslim brotherhood

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Speaker 7: in Egypt. Egypt is now teamed up with actually Saudi

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Speaker 7: Arabia and the the Supanese conflict, and so India also

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Speaker 7: and Modi in particular, you know, they have as much

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Speaker 7: hostility to Muslims as as the UA does. So there's

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Speaker 7: some ideological affinity there. But more importantly there's the there's

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Speaker 7: the money. Like India, you know, India's a growing economy

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Speaker 7: needs needs energy.

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Speaker 5: Yue has has energy to spare.

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Speaker 7: Yui can also do like I was saying, like all

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Speaker 7: sorts of financial services in the in the gray area

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Speaker 7: that allow that allow for that kind of world to

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Speaker 7: world to flourish and to make sense of it.

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Speaker 5: We can put up F four again.

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Speaker 7: I heard from people last week who said that this

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Speaker 7: map was actually like very helpful. It's not as if

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Speaker 7: this is the first time that anybody has seen a map,

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Speaker 7: but like in the news for whatever reason, and also

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Speaker 7: in our history books when we learn about these things,

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Speaker 7: the kind of the players are talked about as if

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00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 7: they're all kind of sitting in a bar together rather

879
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 7: than like laid out geographically and important ways and in

880
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 7: ways that like are you know, define the relationships.

881
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: So here you have you have the Red Sea.

882
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 7: Here, which is the the critical waterway that you know

883
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 7: runs through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean then also

884
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 7: through the Gulf of Aiden, so along that is that's

885
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 7: everything like that like control of the world in some

886
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 7: ways kind of runs runs through there. And so that's

887
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 7: why Saudi and and the UE were fighting for the

888
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 7: southern tip of Yemen. It's why both China and the

889
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 7: US have or does China still have a base in Jibouti.

890
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 7: I know they did for a long time, but the

891
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 7: US has a massive military base in Djibouti, Uh. The

892
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 7: the you know, Eritrea is split off from Ethiopia. There

893
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 7: Ethiopia has no app access to the Red Sea. Sudan

894
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 7: has a bunch of ports along the Red Sea which

895
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 7: are which are critical to you know.

896
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Speaker 5: Both Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

897
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Speaker 3: UH.

898
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Speaker 7: And there obviously you have the border there between Egypt

899
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Speaker 7: and Sudan.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to just look at how massive Sudan is.

901
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's it is a huge, huge country,

902
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: and it used.

903
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: To be bigger.

904
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Speaker 7: The one you're looking at the bottom there is South Sudan,

905
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 7: which is which was broken off after the last the

906
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 7: last genocide that unfolded back in the two thousands.

907
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: Just full of resources. I mean, we just we were

908
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: talking about gold prices earlier, but that's I mean, it's

909
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: not just golden like we were talking about India. It's

910
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: the liquid natural gas it is.

911
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 7: And to the west of Egypt there you've got Libya, uh.

912
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 7: And so the UAE was building its ports throughout the

913
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Speaker 7: Red Sea, was building its strength in Yemen and also

914
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Speaker 7: in Libya because they basically run Libya now through Hofdar,

915
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 7: and so they basically had encircled Saudi Arabia, and there

916
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Speaker 7: was then a class Yemen between Amoradi and Saudi proxies.

917
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Speaker 7: And after that Saudi and Saudi Arabia then attacked the

918
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Speaker 7: attack the Amorates and and here we are with with

919
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 7: this continuing to play outs, and now here comes India

920
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 7: kind of inking this strategic deal with with the U

921
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 7: with the UEE. Meanwhile, if the i c C is

922
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Speaker 7: still allowed to do business, is it is it no

923
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Speaker 7: or just against just not against Israel.

924
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: It's I mean, I guess we'll see, but was it

925
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: ever really even allowed to.

926
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Speaker 5: Do this in Africa?

927
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Speaker 7: In fact, there was this incredible quote, this incredible quote

928
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Speaker 7: from it was obviously Lindsay Graham, who who who on

929
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 7: a call with Kareem Khan, who is the chief prosecutor

930
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 7: of the i c C, said what are you doing

931
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 7: going after We can find the exact quote, but it

932
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 7: was like, what are you doing going after Israel? The

933
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: i c C is set up for Africa, tactics for Africa,

934
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 7: and so the ICC, within its remit apparently says it

935
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Speaker 7: is it is indeed going to try to bring charges

936
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Speaker 7: against the RSF. Let's roll F five.

937
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 11: Mister President, excellencies, since I last addressed this council, the

938
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 11: situation in darfour has darkened even further. Darfuris as we speak,

939
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 11: are being subjected to collective torture, rape, arbitrary detention, executions,

940
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 11: mass graves, all perpetrated on a massive scale. This criminality

941
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 11: is being repeated in town after town in Darfour. It

942
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 11: will continue until this conflict and the sense of impunity

943
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 11: that fuels it are stopped.

944
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Speaker 7: The fighting is continuing despite the despite the ICC and

945
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 7: put up F six. Here is also from drop site.

946
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 7: Intense fighting erupted on the north cort of fond Cartoon

947
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 7: border as the Sudanese Armed Forces and the RSF clashed

948
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 7: fiercely for control of the strategic omdurman Bara Export Road,

949
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 7: a key supply route linking central central Sudan with western fronts.

950
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 7: A large RSF force launched a surprise assault along the road,

951
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 7: with heavy artillery and drones used by both sides. Sudanese

952
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 7: army units reportedly repelled the attack, inflicting significant losses on

953
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 7: the RSF, while both sides continue to contest.

954
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 5: This vital quarter.

955
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 7: This is all if you can see that map there

956
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 7: headed towards a conflict over el Obeyed, which as we

957
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: said last week, estimates are somewhere between half a million

958
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 7: to a million people sheltering. And if and the ICC

959
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 7: is announced by the way that it's prosecuting atrocities committed

960
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 7: in l Fasher, which is what we talked about last week,

961
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 7: could have been up to one hundred fifty thousand people

962
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 7: killed in l Fasher. Just absolutely staggering number.

963
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: Especially for the media coverage by Yes. Compare that in

964
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: your own mind.

965
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 7: It's double double the number of Palestinians killed. And as

966
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 7: far as we know, like the the official death count

967
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 7: in Gaza is half what the upper estimates are in

968
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 7: the El Fasher massacre and l Obeyed if the RSF

969
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 7: manages to to take control, could see an even even bloodier.

970
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 5: Massacre. And meanwhile, the.

971
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 7: The famine and the health collapse continues and put up

972
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 7: F seven also from also from drop site, the Sudan

973
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 7: Doctor's Network warns that the health system in South Court

974
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 7: of Fund is near collapse after more than two years

975
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 7: of siege and ongoing fighting. Kadooglee as five government hospitals

976
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 7: and ten health centers. About fifty percent of facilities are

977
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 7: out of service or operating at half capacity. Many have

978
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 7: shut down entirely due to shortages of staff, medical supplies

979
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 7: and blood bags and network warns the siege, and we

980
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 7: have made basic healthcare increasingly inaccessible for civilians.

981
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: Just I mean, to your point about the reaction to

982
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: Gaza and the reaction to this, I mean, I think

983
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: we covered Gaza constantly, and that's partially because we tend.

984
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: To think also funding it.

985
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're funny yet, but we tend to think

986
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: these things are important when you have mass levels of

987
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: human suffering that is just ongoing and in the shadow

988
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: of the world media's attention, that's how this stuff happens.

989
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

990
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 7: And in this case, the way that I would explain

991
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 7: it as mattering to the United States is that the

992
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 7: UAE is driving this in a significant way. And the

993
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 7: u A is a top ally of the United States.

994
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 7: We haven't we have empowered them throughout their rise into

995
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 7: this what but but they're becoming this little miniature power

996
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 7: center on their own. But they are entirely vulnerable two

997
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 7: American action, A little tiny push. If you cut off

998
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 7: one flight from New York to Dubai or London to

999
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 7: Dubai one to day is reduced one to day, like

1000
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 7: they would absolutely freak out. This is before you get

1001
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 7: into sanctions or investigations or anything else. But just just

1002
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 7: backing off a time, you know what, you know what,

1003
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 7: maybe but by the UAE has completely purchased all of Washington,

1004
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 7: has bought off basically every college and university well in

1005
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 7: the United States that matters. So we'll talk about it,

1006
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 7: but nobody else.

1007
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 5: Is going to.

1008
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I was just gonna say, the way that

1009
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: Donald Trump likes to do business, they bought him well

1010
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: years ago. I mean there's been I think there's been

1011
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: a Trump tower in Dubai since two thousand and five.

1012
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at a Forbes headline now from October,

1013
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: and the headline is this golf nation is powering Trump's

1014
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: money making machine, and he's a sentence from it. Eight

1015
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 3: years later, from twenty seventeen, the UAE, home to the

1016
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: metropolisies of Dubai and Abadabi, has become a hub for

1017
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: the Trump Organization's international expansion. So again just saying, in

1018
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: reiterating your point about the level of pressure that UA

1019
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: is sensitive to, there are a lot of different pressure

1020
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: points just from the way Donald Trump likes to do

1021
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: business as president, meaning he has business deals in places

1022
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: he likes to then pressure politically, geopolitically. So there are

1023
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: a lot of different avenues for change in this situation.

1024
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 7: But right, and the thing that you would you would

1025
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 7: think given that, you'd be like, oh, well this is

1026
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 7: this is baked. Like they've completely bought the president and

1027
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 7: all of our institutions. No, not necessarily, Like the only

1028
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 7: thing that makes it a live fight is that Saudi

1029
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 7: Arabia is against them right now and also has bought everybody.

1030
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: Yep. So so someone's gonna have to pay a little

1031
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: more money. Yes, if it's a mafia racket, we got.

1032
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: A fair fight.

1033
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to have to pony up

1034
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 7: a little bit more.

1035
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 3: Well, Ryan, thanks for continuing to cover this at drop site,

1036
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: and thanks for continuing to you push for these updates

1037
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: every week on Wednesdays. That is going to do it

1038
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: for us today.

1039
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Speaker 7: And I will be gone next week. I think I'll

1040
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 7: be in Monday with Saga because then I'm going to Mexico.

1041
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,719
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1042
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 5: see you down.

1043
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,080
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