WEBVTT - White Supremacy and Creeping Fascism 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.720 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WOKF Daily with me 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.560 your Girl, Danielle Moody. Pre recording from the home Bunker. Folks. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.480 It is our holiday week at WOKF and as we 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:26.960 wind down seven incredible years of bringing you interviews and 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.200 information and content, I've wanted to revisit some of the 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.519 most important conversation I think that we've had on WOKF 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.760 and so I'm excited to revisit this conversation with my 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.080 co host of Democracy Ish, which is live on my 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.960 YouTube channel Fridays at twelve pm Eastern, with my friend 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.600 jahahat Ali. In this episode from last year, we talk 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:58.040 about the self destructiveness of white supremacy and if you remember, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.320 at this time back in twenty twenty three, the NAACP 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.319 had issued a travel advisory on the state of Florida 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.520 as Ron DeSantis' fascist agenda began to take hold. The 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:20.039 NAACP and what would follow are some LGBTQ organizations that 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.240 would say that Florida ain't safe for us, and so 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.400 you may want to be advised. And in this conversation, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:33.080 Jase and I unpack white supremacy and you know how 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:38.240 we are going to navigate through this very self destructive, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:44.600 self eating, self defeating ideology. And you know this comes 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.200 right now with a couple of weeks until Donald Trump 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.480 takes the oath that we know that he will break 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.680 as soon as he puts his hand on that Bible 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.880 to give a damn about our constitution to uphold it. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.480 And we know that Donald Trump could care less about 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.600 our constitution. And frankly, right now it doesn't even seem 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.960 like he's actually the president elect. It more so seems 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.840 like Elon Muskiz. Has anybody heard from JD Vance? Probably not? 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:18.360 So Buckle up as we revisit this conversation, because sometimes 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:24.560 going backwards helps us figure out our path forward. Folks, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.840 I am always very excited when I get to bring 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.480 on my co host, my weekly co host of a 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:36.560 Democracy Ishaha hot al Lee, who is an author, a 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.240 columnist and all around badass on Twitter. If you have 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.480 not read his book go back to where you come 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.799 from and other helpful tips you should And if you're 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.520 loving wokf daily on iHeart, you should absolutely check out 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.639 Democracy Ish, which drops new episodes each and every Thursday 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.920 with Waja Hot and I and some really amazing, amazing 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:05.880 guests that we get into conversation with SOA was you know, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.840 first of all, I just America. You know, I'll just 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.880 start there America and then slap my head and we 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.760 can just go from there. But over the weekend, the 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:26.480 NAACP issued a really intense warning to black people in 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:33.160 America and members of other marginalized groups in saying that 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:39.080 you should be wary of traveling to the state of Florida, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:45.680 that Florida is essentially a hate state, that it is 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:52.200 a dangerous state for black people, for LGBTQ people, for women. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.720 It was lengthy, it was necessary, and it harkens back 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.560 to essentially a time in this country during Jim Crow 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:10.160 segregation where Black Americans had to if they were traveling, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.600 they got something called a green book Juaja hot Ali. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.000 They got a green book at different gas stations in 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:22.240 different places of respites in between their travels from the 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.880 North throughout the South that would signal to them in 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:30.479 providing great detail places that would accept their money and 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.800 their presence as black people, whether it was at a 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:39.080 restaurant or a gas station or a hotel. And traveling 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:44.040 was so precarious and could end up resulting in a lynching, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.640 a rape, a robbery, a beating, all of these things, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.200 that the Green Book was necessary created by Victor Green, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:58.320 a postal worker who created this and printed it himself 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:03.360 and was disseminated throughout the South. And so here we 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:09.040 are fast forward to twenty twenty three, where the nacious, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:15.440 longest and oldest civil rights organization has made this stark warning. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.080 How did that land with you? 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.599 I thought The Green Book was a movie where Vigo 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.799 Mortensen was taught by Mahershala Ali how to write letters 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.320 to his wife and then they and then they had 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.720 been Ali Weather. Oh yeah, my bad. Sorry. Look. I 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.599 think the NAACP should be joined by the National Organization 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.440 of Women, who should give an advisory to women who 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.680 want to go to Florida because Ron DeSantis, the wet 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.680 noodle that we have always said that he is on 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.599 our other podcast, has now restricted abortions after six weeks. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.000 I think GLAD or any organization that represents LGBTQ plus 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:57.120 communities should also issue an advisory because don't say gay. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.719 I think educators and librarians should all so issue an 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.880 advisory because they're banning books, they're banning ap African American studies, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.839 they're silencing academics and they're threatening librarians. And I also 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:14.919 think any group that tries to protect immigrants, especially on 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.560 document immigrants, should also issue an advisory warning because with 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.440 the new anti immigration bill, which none enough people are 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.760 talking about that he passed, basically they could just stop 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.800 anyone who looks mexicany ask them for their papers, and 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.640 out of state driver's licenses apparently aren't enough. So it 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.799 has led to Danielle as of last week and something 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:41.440 that people should mention massive stoppages in construction in Florida. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.200 Why because just like in the African American community, in 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.839 the immigrant community and migrant community, especially the Latino communities 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.280 weren't spread and people are like, yo, unless you want 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.240 to get detained and deported, don't go to Florida. So 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:00.359 I would say, Danielle, if you go anti woke, you'll 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.240 go broke. And another thing I'll say is good on 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.920 the NAACP. And we were talking about this earlier. A 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.440 tweet came out from a friend of ours, historian Kevin 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.240 Cruise of Princeton, who's excellent on Twitter follow him if 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.640 you don't and Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz, who cares 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.600 so much about his constituents that whenever there's trouble, he 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.280 goes to can Kun. You know he's now leading the 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.000 charge with all these other Republicans. How dare you, nubacap, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.920 how dare you? And he invokes doctor King. Doctor King 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.600 would be so embarrassed, and then Camvin Cruz says, ah, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:40.480 as a historian, I have receipts. Actually, Doctor King back 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.560 in the day called for a boycott of this state 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.760 called Alabama, precisely because as you described, Danielle, it was 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:54.160 a haven for white violence, white vigilante violence against black 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.760 people and those whites who helped black people. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:05.240 So yeah, So Kevin Cruz and folks, it is Kevin 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.320 and Cruz k r U s E. He tweeted this 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.640 in response to Ted Cruz, who said, quote, this is 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.520 bizarre and utterly dishonest. In the nineteen fifties and sixties, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:23.000 the NAACP did extraordinary good thing, good good helping lead 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.440 the civil rights movement. Today, doctor Kin would be ashamed 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.360 of how profoundly they've lost their way. So quote tweeting 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:36.080 that Professor Kevin Cruz tweets this. In nineteen sixty five, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.640 doctor King called for a national boycott of the State 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:44.120 of Alabama saying that the Democratic governor George Wallace's policies 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:50.000 constituted a quote, reign of terror against black Americans. And so, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.400 just so folks don't get it twisted, Ted Cruz knows nothing, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.280 and I know that it is. It is very hard 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.920 to dig into the bin of idiots see and lack 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.080 of intellectual nimbleness and honesty when we're talking about the 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.800 Republican Party writ large, but in particular Ted Cruz much 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.320 alike Republicans love to do coming around the Martin Luther 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.760 King Junior Holiday, which is to take out the one 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:23.079 quote that they know out of its context. Daniel quotes, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:29.080 you're right, you're right, and admonish black people for acknowledging 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.160 the racist policies that they put together, because US acknowledging 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.360 racism is what is racist, not the policies in and 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:41.160 of itself. So Professor Cruse said, let me provide you 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.440 with the actual receipts of the New York Times article 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.000 that was written in nineteen sixty five. And so I 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.280 think was what gets me here is that facts don't 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.480 register with the Party of Lies and the Party of hate. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.679 But what should register with Americans and the pop is 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:07.839 that this party hasn't just regressed, it has devolved, right, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.880 It has devolved into something where we thought that the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:16.280 commentary that we understood around the civil rights movement we 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.960 would always look at through a historical lens. But here 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.120 we are in present day, twenty twenty three America, following 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.480 the successful two terms of our nation's first black president. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:35.000 We currently have our first black and an Aapi vice 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.200 president woman of the United States. That we are still 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.120 in the midst of experiencing some extraordinary first But here 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:47.520 we are with the nation's oldest civil rights organization having 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:53.079 to issue travel warnings to black people in America. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.040 And you know, Daniel, I'm going to google this because 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.080 I wanted to get the quote right. You know, we 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.559 mentioned George Waller for those people who forget George Wallace 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.760 ran for president. He was also elected as governor of 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.760 Alabama in nineteen sixty three. This is what George Wallace said, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.360 in the name of the greatest people that have ever 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.040 trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.520 and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny. And 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:26.800 I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. And what 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:31.640 I said during the tyranny of Donald Trump's four years 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.280 in the White House is that he has a lot 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.040 in comma George Wallace. He's a demagogue. In fact, people 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.400 support George Wallace should support Donald Trump. So you say devolved. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.000 I say they're returning back to their roots. This is 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.640 who they were, And people say, oh, well, job, that's 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.720 too harsh. I want to remind you all that Donald 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:57.600 Trump said when the looting starts, the shooting starts, another 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.800 famous pro segregation and dog whistle in those parts right 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.080 from the sixties. So these folks Ted Cruz and the 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:09.120 modern Republican Party literally, I mean, do we really think 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.480 if they took a Dolorean back to the sixties, would 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.880 they be on the side of Doctor King or would 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.520 they be on the side of George Wallace. And I'll 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:21.200 give you this, don't say gay banning, any treatment of 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:26.680 transgender kids, banning books written by Tony Morrison, going after 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.600 Colin Kaepernick for bending a knee, but supporting white supremacists 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.480 and Christian nationalists who tried to literally overthrow our election right, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.480 calling Donald Trump, calling the black officer who defended these 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.679 Republican congressmen a thug, but praising Ashley Babbitt, who was 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:49.440 radicalized by QAnon, praising people like Kyle Rittenhouse who shan 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.480 killed two white folks at a BLM protest, praising and 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.719 the guy, the white guy who got convicted by a 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.560 jury of his peers in Texas for shooting another protester 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.599 at a BLM protest. Tucker Carlson said, parton them, and 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.680 Greg Abbat said, sure, I'll part on this white killer 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.000 who was convicted by a jury of his peers, literally 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:16.040 lynching I'm at Arbury for jogging while black in his neighborhood. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.280 And if it wasn't for the video that was released, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.600 they would not be in prison. So you tell me, Danielle. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.960 Would these people, these modern Republicans, be on the side 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.040 of doctor King because they only know three of his 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.840 quotes and forget everything else, especially the condemnation of corrupt 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.720 capitalism and white supremacy? Or would they be on the 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.960 side of George Wallace? And I would tell you they'd 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.800 be on the side of George Wallace. So NAACP is 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.480 finally flexing and the way you go after these folks. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.240 And this is why I've always said that white supremacy 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.440 is ultimately self destructive because Ron DeSantis, in order to 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.439 feed the magabase that has been radicalized and weaponized, has 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.120 to go after Disney. He can't double down, he can't retreat, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.319 even though you and I know on the DL the 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.320 Republicans like, whoa, whoa, whoa, there round Santiss. You can 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.680 bite the hand that feeds you. Now they've gone all 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.319 in to feed this radicalized base that wants to stand 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:12.439 its ground. That Florida is, I'm sorry to say, getting 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.920 some karma. Disney flex last week, right, they're actually just 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.719 a couple of days ago Disney said, all right, that 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.240 huge billion. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.320 Dollar complex pulling it. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.840 Peace out. NAACP said, oh, Disney's gonna peace out. We're 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.840 gonna peace out. Educators are gonna peace out. I think 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.240 what about college athletes, black athletes. Will they go to 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.920 university Florida schools for football? You tell me, I'm gonna 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.080 say no. So this is one of those situations where 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.080 you need this multicultural coalition. And when I see the NAACP, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.440 I was serious. I want now the National Organization of Women, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.080 I want Glad, I want all these groups now to say, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.640 all right, Florida, you want to go anti woke you're 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.560 gonna go bro. That's my take on this. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.800 You have to go after, right. I think that it 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:05.840 should be colleges, big sports entities, ticket Master, Live Nation, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.400 all of these places that do business that do multi 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.040 million dollar or a billion dollar business like Disney and 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.320 say so we're done. And there are people wash who 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.040 come out and say, well, you know, you can't harm 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.320 the people that live there that are trying to do 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.520 the best that they can. And I said, well, you know, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.080 money talks and bullshit walks. So if at the end 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.880 of the day, we are still operating under this capitalist regime, right, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.480 and you have the power to sway you know, the 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.040 ticket masters of the world and the big names from 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.680 going and performing in places like Florida, if you have 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.400 the ability to say, you know what, NBA, nc DOUBLEA, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.560 NFL and others that we're not going to support you 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.000 if you are playing games and giving money to this state. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.640 Because it isn't just construction that is now faltering in Florida, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:07.120 it is also guess what, agriculture is faltering in Florida, right, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.960 because they literally have fruits and vegetables dying on the vines. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:19.040 Because our agriculture market requires, right migrant workers. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:19.480 Yep. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.040 Whether or not we want to pay them, acknowledge them, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.920 provide them with dignity and respect. This is how things work. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:31.040 So you know, when I see the NAACP and Equality Florida, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.560 and I think there is one other organization that I 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:38.200 am remiss at remembering right now who has issued warnings 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.600 with regard to Florida. I believe that everyone else, the 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:47.400 Human Rights Campaign, glad ACLU, others, Southern Popular Law. Everybody 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.080 should fall in line. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.120 I forgot pen America joined up with Penguin Random House, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.760 one of the Titan publishing corporations, to sue Florida. That 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.240 happened last week. Also and the last quick thing before. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.920 It also goes to show you, in this capitalist country 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.479 where all that matters is money, the color green trumps 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.920 all of the colors. In God, we trust it's right there. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.000 It also goes to show you, Danielle, if these corporations 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.959 actually cared about freedom, democracy and human rights overnight, there 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.280 would be changes in this country. Disney. Disney's kind of 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.840 like the unexpected hero because they pushed Disney to the 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.320 point where they finally had to step up. Disney could 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:29.919 have done this on its own right, so it just 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.440 goes to show you how much power these organizations have 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.439 that if you go after their bottom line, they're going 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.320 to go after the Republicans that they also feed. But 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.600 it also goes to show you that if they actually 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.040 cared overnight, they can rain in the Republicans and the 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.120 majority can stop, you know, being hijacked by a minority. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.600 That's the sad part. This could happen overnight, you. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.360 Know, speaking of things that happened overnight. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.480 Well, good, well done, excellent segue. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.399 With a few minutes that we have left the lone 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:04.280 black Republican Senator Tim Scott has you know, said, you 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.080 know he's running for president, and you know he's doing 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.000 so wa was by stating that America is not a 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.840 racist country. Now, we've just spent the last sixteen minutes 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.080 talking about all the ways in which America is absolutely 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.520 and totally racist, right from hearkening back to George Wallace 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.840 to today's policies that are happening to the NAACP's announcement. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.479 But in Tim Scott's America and the reality that he 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:37.120 lives in, in his hehaw America. He believes that anybody 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.840 who tells you that America is racist. They are lying 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.959 to you. That's what he said in his announcement speech. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.480 And you know, Tim Scott has been the literal blackface 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.960 that the Republican Party has trotted out to deal to 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.840 come up with compromise legislation that fell apart after the 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.040 murder of George Floyd. He was to be working with 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:06.720 his counterpart, Senator Corey Booker to create legislation that would, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.160 I don't know, stop cops from being able to kill 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:15.719 unarmed black people and use police brutality and wield unimaginable force. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.919 And that all fell apart after about eight months, and 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.760 they have yet to come back to the table again 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.199 on those issues. But anytime there is an issue with 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.439 regard to race or racism, it is Tim Scott that 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.960 the Republican parties pushed to the front, and he is 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.480 saying that he wants us to get back to a 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.399 place of unity right where we can have differences with 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.639 one another, but that we are all part of the 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.040 same American team. He harkened back to Reagan that America 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.160 is this beacon on the hill. He pulled out every 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.520 single trope, every single Republican talking point, But the differentiator 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.919 here is that he is not referring to his Democratic 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.320 opponents as his enemies. He is not calling for them 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.639 to be round up and hunted like dogs, like Governor 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:07.320 McMaster just said at a South Carolina Republican convention meeting. 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.040 Wow that one. Wow Yeah yeah. 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.440 Yeah, rounded up and hunted like dogs. That he wants 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.280 them Democrats to be so rare that that is the case, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.679 and Democrats in South Carolina are calling on him for 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.640 an apology. I better they wait for hell to freeze over. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.360 What do you make of Tim Scott his announcement and 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:32.600 how he is positioning himself right now with another black 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:38.280 quote unquote rising star Byron Donalds, who is an election denier. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.720 Who's the other black face that Republicans are loving to 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:41.200 trot out. 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:47.760 Every community has a token, a cultural validator, a black 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.399 or brown face that acts as a trojan horse for 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:55.120 white supremacy, one who believes that they are either special 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.520 and exalted and different from US savages. The Clarence Thomas 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.440 wants the ones who hate themselves or the ones who 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.040 realize this is a good gig because the money is 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.159 lucrative and I can parrot all their talking points and 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.720 I'll be the token black I'll be the Candice Owens. 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.679 I'll be the Nikki Haley, the vivid Ramaswami. Right. And 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.160 the interesting thing is they engage in all these petzel 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.800 circusile rational you know, gymnastics in their head. Nikki Haley 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.440 said the same thing when she ran for when she 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.199 announced her candidacy, and literally right when she did, and 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.440 Colter told her to go back to her own country. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.639 People always forget this, right, Literally, Donald Trump said she 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.000 has the wrong complexion to be my running mate. Right, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.200 So they're being racist to their face and they sit 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.119 there and they eat their shit sandwich, because that's the 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.480 fausting bargain. Tim Scott knows what's up, but he's made 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.840 this fasting bargain. He's never going to be president. He 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.159 effed up. Literally, he took the mic and did a 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.480 Howard Dean moment and effed up even making his announcement. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.719 So it's over. He's he's going to be a punch line. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.840 But what he'll get is a lifelong tenure in the 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.360 Republican Party as the token black. He'll get a six 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.760 to seven figure book deal, he'll get a consulting gig, 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.159 and he'll allow Republicans to get away with the fiction 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.160 that they're not racist, because look, we support the black yep. 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.080 It is a gig as old as time right to 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.960 be and I love your phrasing, the embodiment of the 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.480 trojan horse for white supremacy. It is it can't possibly 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:28.200 exist because I exist, right, And the reality is Tip Scott, 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:35.000 you know his grandfather, I believe, you know, pick cotton, right, 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:42.479 lived in the lived under the weight of segregation. And 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.000 so Tip Scott has a lot to be proud of. 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.240 His family has a lot to be proud of. Right, 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.320 you go from in two generations from picking cotton to 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.320 picking policy, and that is that has always been you know, 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.679 his line of thinking. But there's something that got contorted 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:04.160 into did in his mind about because he had said 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.840 ability and advantages that then every black person in this 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.440 country has had the same ability and advantages And everything 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.320 else that we see is just a product of our imagination. 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.680 And if we just ignore it, if we just align 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.040 with our oppressor and be grateful to share stages with 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.520 them and share microphones with them, then all will be well. 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.720 Pull your pull yourself up from. 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.920 Yes right, and don't let your don't let your complexion 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:37.400 be what causes you to not be able to succeed. 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.239 That's just an excuse, right, So it is it is 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.800 such an incredible place where you named you name checked 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.199 all of these black and brown faces. Uh, that the 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:53.320 Republican Party is pushing forward to cloak their white supremacy 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:57.360 in right, And and I just wonder do you think 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.199 last question for you, how do we we think this 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.359 is gonna fair in the long run? The Decks and 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:09.800 the Nikkis and the Byrons and the Tim Scotts. You know, 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.960 is this the new Republican Party or just the same 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:13.879 old ropodope? 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.640 You know, Colonialism like herpies, lingers forever, and it gets 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.520 passed on generation and generation. And it's not just black people, 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.920 but it's people of color who've come to this country, right, 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.760 They unconsciously, oftentimes chased whiteness for protection and safety. And 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.280 I've given this analogy before they came here, like, huh, 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.760 who's winning, who's creating the policies, who's on top, who's 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.800 on the billboards, who's the hero white folks, who's in jail, 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.840 who's hated? Who's beating up black people? Even though my 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.760 natural allies will be the black and brown folks, let 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.920 me chase whiteness. I'll never be white, but I'll be protected. 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.040 I'll be asymptotic to whiteness, right, and then you engage 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.440 in all these rationalizations, and I am the good one. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.399 If they only pull themselves up from the bootstraps like me, 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.760 if they got rid of their pathology and self loathing, 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.480 if they became post racist, then everything would be better. 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.080 And yet time and time again, you can't wipe off 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.800 the blackness and the brownness. This country reminds you violently 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.399 your place in the hierarchy. And so what I think 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.600 is going to happen is that whiteness has always evolved 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.720 to survive. It is trying to win over Latinos and 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:25.159 Asians and black folks through family values, through the transgender panic. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.840 I think they will win over a minority of our community. 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.679 I think they will, and I think you're going to see, 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.879 like the Latino white supremacist in Texas who killed eight people, 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.320 We're going to see more and more of that. But 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.320 I do think the cruelty of white supremacy is finally 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.800 animating enough people, Danielle, thanks to the work of Martin 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.800 Luther King, the Silver Rights Movement, our ancestors who fought 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.600 in bled that they say I'm done with this, and 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.439 enough whites. Maybe if enough whites can say, oh, this 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.639 is self destructive for our families and this country, we 0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.239