WEBVTT - Ep 194: Cemetary Sex & a Bottom Betch (Ft. Daya) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.080 Are dropping. It's this Friday, Well it's technically Thursday. I 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.240 hate the midnight drops, but it's Thursday at midnight, but 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:12.080 Friday midnight. Does that make sense? Anyways? Is this week Thanksgiving? 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.200 After you don't funk your goddamn turkey Caloriesolf, get on 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.640 the computer, go to hore hive dot com and get 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.840 some motherfucker merch. We have a Monday's are my favorite 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.040 for you pussy assholes who still got to go into work. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.040 We also have a segments T shirt that says kink 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.240 of the Week, Vanilla Ship, hordor, Horrible Decisions and homemail. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.960 We didn't want to put horror on everything. Our mask 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.080 says I like my man six ft. 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Horrible Underscore Decisions, write 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.679 us on Twitter, tell us how much you love this 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.959 pod at Horrible Pod, and hey, leave us a review. Enjoy, Enjoy. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.800 Welcome guys to another episode of Horrible Decisions, More Horrible, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:34.600 Horly you right in review wherever you are listening to us. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.880 I'm your girl, Mandy v A K sign a k 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.480 A tripod Mommy. Hi am wheezy. I'm not the biggest 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.600 horn in the room. We have a guest. I'm just 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.880 kidd might who might have definitely the biggest horn. I 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:55.920 think these are real new. You got help homes. You 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.080 said they're real new. They're real new, Like these are 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.800 COVID tips. I was about to say, but you got 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.320 him quarantine. I went to California in May and I 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.720 got the tips stuff. But you got it in during 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.920 the pandemic year the faith as well. So wait, is 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:17.800 this cannot They're not sailing failing. No, there's still at COMBA. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.799 The high grade still a comb same. This is what 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.560 I don't know if she should drop when you're a 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.280 but my bids look just like that in the beginning. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.200 In the beginning, I remember it being right here and 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.920 I had that porny look and then so I want 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.720 to just briefly share that I got to see these 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.760 tits in lace and I was just like, God, damn, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.760 her body's nice. But now that I'm like, the tips 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.840 probably were you know. Yeah, I mean it's also like 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.760 your tips are a function of like the way your 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.400 tips were before. So I had like really high flat 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.120 tities that's like the tear drop shape that I had. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.799 I kind of thought I would lose. I thought it 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.760 would getting more around, but it's like you just get 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.079 bigger to literally it's your boob when you get the 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.399 silicone type right when you basically you get the implants 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.079 and they match and form to the way your boob's 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.320 already looked opposed to silicone where it's kind of like 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.920 they just fill them up and turn into their own. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.480 But I mean, of course they're safer if they break, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.680 but I don't give a fun they break, I could die. Well, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.720 they say was about the same. So the people get 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.800 sailine because you know it'll just dissolve into your body, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.720 opposed to silicone, which can harm you. That's why a 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.360 lot of people don't like silicone. However, silicone feel and 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.240 look better. Those are the ones that if you like, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.160 hit it too hard, it will pop you me. No, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.880 they don't pop. It's just like they could be more damaging. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.680 They're both just as good. It's the casing. But silicone 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.400 is gonna feel like a gummy bear. It's gonna feel 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.840 like real tips. Yeah, they look nice almost not. I'm 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.840 gonna try to be respected. Get out. Oh yeah, we're 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.480 gonna be all Ariola watch. I'll be doing it. I 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.120 have to blur it out, Benson, Benson, Just what a 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.680 great job you have. You know what? No, I go 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.440 like like when I go out with my friends, depending 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:58.920 on the outfit, I'd be like, all right, but you 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.720 want Ariola watch? Because I feel like my friends forget 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.360 I'm like, why didn't you say anything? They're like, I 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.320 didn't even see it. People just tell me I thought 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.760 you knew. I'm like, no, I did not. I can't 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:13.520 feel So. Your name is Dianora. Tell us a little 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.000 bit about you. What you do for work? While you're 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.120 on our show. I mean you said you're a whole, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.159 but I mean you said she was before she could 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:27.840 say it was. It was an educated guess. So yeah, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.520 I guess. Yeah, if you want to introduce yourself, and 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.480 then I can also say where I met you. So 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.680 I'm a fetish performer, educator. I was a stripper before 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.719 the pandemic, which is why I decided to do the 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.120 tips like during the pandemic, so I wouldn't have to 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.400 worry about recovery. Um. But I perform, and I teach workshops, 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.239 and I have my own private business in bottoming which 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.720 crosses over both to anal bottoming and to beat a 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.599 sum submission and kink. When you stripped where you when 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.360 you when you were stripping, you said you're a fetish performer. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.440 Was were you different than the other strippers there because 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.280 you did different type of stuff or you just branched 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.760 into this well, I mean I started stripping like in 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.280 the Fall. I mean I had some friends in it. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.160 They got me into the scene. But at the strip 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.920 club I worked, which was Sapphires, like right here, they did. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.279 So there's a friend in our community who's the artistic 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.599 director there Warren Archer and he has a kink room. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.880 So that was my specialty at the strip club. Like 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.039 I would take couples in there or like what was it, like, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.359 what are you able to do at a strip club 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.880 with in kink? Well, if there is a St. John's 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.520 Cross and their whips and floggers, you can do a 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.000 lot in a strip club. That's fine because people go 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.560 to dungeons for that. But you would never think they 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.719 go to a strip club. I wouldn't think that. Well, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.080 they don't really expect it. But once they're there and 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.760 like it's a couple and they're like, oh, we want 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.120 to play with you or we want to learn something. Yeah, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.400 And that's honestly more fun than stripping. Is like getting 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.200 to have a real experience with a couple. And so 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.120 when you're in, when you're stripping, I'm curious to know, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.840 like have you enjoyed yourself? We've only we had a 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.159 stripper come on, Justel. She was very popular. She was 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.280 involved with the Stripper Strike, but that was a while ago. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.600 When you're stripping, do you get turned on by it? 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.320 Do you feel like it's just work? Like how does 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.600 it feel for you? For me, it's my own fantasy. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.320 I get to embody a certain aspect of my personality, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.800 of my sexuality. So I identify as gender nonconforming, but 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.760 when I'm a stripper, I'm totally female. That's a really 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.240 fun place space. How do you identify the outside of 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.520 the strip club? What do you mean you're gender your 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.560 gender nonconforming, but as a stripper, you're a female. As 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.880 a stripper, that's my full female persona. Okay, alright, so 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.120 I would he just wants you to elaborate on gender nonconforming. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.479 Gender nonconforming means that inhabit both energies like male and 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:46.400 female equally strong. But it's also connected to the fact 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.920 that I do have a hormone condition, so I have 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.359 naturally more male testastia than the average female less female. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.440 How would you find that out? I mean you just 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.840 find out growing up not having a period. Wow, right, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.760 And I'm like, oh wow, I didn't know that I 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.599 have been pregnant. That was a mistake. But I menstorate 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.920 it like once twice a year. So for a while 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.240 I was just like writing free, Like, so, how do 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.920 you know when you're opulating? I mean, I still get 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.600 the symptoms, Like, I'll still get superpressed, but like I 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:22.240 don't know. Yeah, wow, now I feel like I don't know, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.880 overstep here. But it sounds like I'm buzzing in these guys. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.280 Is there? What? What? That's what I'm saying. I've been pregnancy, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.680 But what's the bad? What are they like? Yeah? What's 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.040 because it sounds like I'm not gonna lie? I want 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.320 to be more? Can I just need some more? I 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.440 need the motucab to have a little bit. You want 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.720 a little bit? You know, a little bit? But damn 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.120 so two periods of year? Yes, that sounds like like 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.880 I'm literally planning trips around my period. Are you ever 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.679 scared that you're pregnant? Because you really have? Hear you? Honestly, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.960 I just keep a bunch of pregnancy test anxiety of 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.680 like I hate them. I mean, don't get me wrong, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.440 It's better than hating it coming every month. But so, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.320 do you take a PREGNACYE test like monthly? Because you 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.720 do have multiple partners? I do have multiple partners, so 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.360 I do take tests pretty often, like oh shit, every 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:17.800 five weeks. What I'm just saying you any day? Do 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.880 you use condoms? I have like fluid bonded partners, so 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:26.640 fluid bonding partners. They bonded with the FIDS. So bitch, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:31.640 she don't be wearing condoms every time, so every five weeks, right, Okay, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.319 I can rock with that. So, speaking of um before 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.240 we get into this, because clearly we have a ton 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:41.120 of questions about b d s M bottoming, because bottoming 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.480 to me, of course, I've always used that term for 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.920 men who bottom for other men. But before we get 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.880 into it, I wanted you to kind of differentiate because 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.680 you actually said you found kind of almost the safety 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.480 insects through b DSM but also through different shading it 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.880 between noticing that you had a previously abusive relationship. So 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.280 can you kind of talk into how you differentiated between 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.600 the two because there could be listeners right now. We've 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.839 often talked about b d s M where they could 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.360 really actually be in more of an abusive relationship than 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.800 a b DSM one. So, like my story, and it's 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.280 a bit of a controversial thing to say, so this 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.800 is like a content warning to everyone. But I was 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.800 like my first relationship, it went down a wrong path 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.160 and then there was an incident of rape, and when 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.959 I confronted that partner and said like, hey, what happened? 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.720 Last night and it was a fight, but that was 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.200 not okay. He's like, I don't know. We were just experimenting, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.640 And for me that was a big question mark because 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.959 biologically I enjoyed what happened. I enjoyed me tied me up, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.480 I enjoyed the forcefulness. I enjoyed all of it, but 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.680 I knew emotionally that it was not okay, and that's 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.720 not how that fight should have ended. Okay. So the 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.160 relationship when in the direction of a lot of experimenting 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.959 with media SM So there are parts of it that 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.720 I was excited about that I bought toys for scenes 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.079 that I directed, but it became an excuse in the relationship. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.920 Every time we had a fight or every time I misbehaved, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.040 violence was introduced, so you weren't It wasn't consensual at all. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.959 It just happened, and you knew. That's what I'm saying. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.080 They were scenes that we had built together, times we 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.000 had sex, where we negotiated things the proper way to 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.080 about over time it because I think people won't understand. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.679 So sometimes in the media SM community, I guess one 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.880 of the vocabulary terms used is scenes, and it's basically 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.600 where you're stepping outside of normal sex and or your 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.920 vanilla ship or your regular life, and you jump into 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.240 that world. That's where the term scene is reference. I 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.760 don't know if people are thinking we'd either like, oh 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:52.000 did you do poor scenes? A subscribe to my only fans, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:57.120 but not in this sense. You were just having different 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.240 engagements with your partner. Yeah. Scenes means a structure your 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.320 sexual experience, and wished consent is renegotiated your terms of 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.760 exiting a scene or exiting the dynamic, or negotiated what 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.079 you want to happen is kind of roadmap. And so 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.880 during these scenes, essentially you're safe words and what did 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.640 make you feel comfortable? Those boundaries were crossed a lot, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.959 you know. I mean what I'm saying is there were 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.840 times where we intentionally experimented, but then there were times 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.240 we were just fighting or having sex and he used, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.959 you know, choking, hitting, all these things. Have you had 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.880 moments where you asked him to stop or you just 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.480 felt like this was what was normal? I did. That's 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.760 I'm saying. It's a controversial thing to say, like I 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.680 was so blearned in this situation where biologically I didn't 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.440 understand there were other people who liked pain and pleasure 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.840 and there was a place for it. Ah, So you 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.319 did you find so? And we've had him on the show. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.480 You actually told me that you did actually find your 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.360 safe space and b D s M through NSFW. So 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.480 did you leave your partner once you found that you 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.680 could enjoy these things consensually? No? I mean I left 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.360 my partner when he threatened to kill me. That was 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.760 that's a whole another right. But then you know, as 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.320 I continue to date people, these questions came up. I 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.679 still wanted to play. I met people naturally who were 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.760 like me and wanted to have rough playing experiment. So 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.600 there's a you know, a plane man have had for 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.560 a really long time to this day. And one day 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.760 he asked me, can you taught me? I want you 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.240 to hit me. I want to humiliate me, and I 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.599 just went for it. It's not cute, was not what 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.600 he was asking. So I just googled like workshops in 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:41.200 filmdoms and dominatrixes, and that's why I found NSFW. So 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.760 NSFW is a sex club. We talked about members only. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.000 We talked about Daniel saying often, um, if you guys 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.920 want to look it up, you can. But there's so 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.199 many articles on NSFW, Forbes, BuzzFeed, Humpington Post. I've seen 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.440 a bunch, and I'm curious to know your experience with 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.959 NSFW specifically, what's been different from there from other places 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.000 that you think that they take heat do. It's become 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.839 really clear to me, especially during the pandemic, and it's 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.640 a space that did have it a lot. I'm very 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.160 involved in event planning and teaching and performing now, but 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.520 as a bottom so as someone who's submissive, as someone 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.920 who has a female body, as someone who likes pain 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.200 and you know, Dixon toys and things in my ass, 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.000 I'm in a naturally vulnerable place. So as much as 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.720 I can identify as a man and with male energy, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.839 I don't have the same freedom to go on grinder, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:35.880 to be tied up and have a guy just walk 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.000 into my house right now. For sure. We talked about often, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.679 um how the gay community is just a lot more 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:48.120 accessible with using grinder and just having multiple partners and 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.000 they come, they play, they leave. But again, even with 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.600 Tinder and other acts like that, for women, we don't 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.319 have that luxury to just kind of safety. Just the 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.000 future issue that women all across the board, I mean 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.839 even in lesbian relationships to you know what I mean, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.280 like rough play, Like it's just there's a weird boundary 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.439 that people don't know how to respect when it comes 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.439 to women. I don't know where it comes from. I 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.240 think it's something we've been taught for a long time. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.360 I mean a few weeks ago, we just did an 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.480 episode about the Bible and it's like all of those 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.560 things when it comes to women and the mistreatment, like 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.480 it's just all back in our head and we have 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.080 no idea where it comes from. But I want to 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.800 know when it comes to NSFW, has there been a 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.040 time like because I'm always curious when people are having 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.200 what some would think of as violent sex, right, do 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.080 have you had a conversation with the partners that you're 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.920 about to play with at NSFW? Do people that work 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.760 at NSFW set boundaries? How does that work? The boundary setting? 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.600 Is it used at the club? Is that the person 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.320 that you meet? How does it work out in that structure? Well, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.400 the club itself creates a safe space. It's a community. Um, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.560 so there's a certain level accountability just built in. There 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.880 have been plenty of people people who I've played with 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.720 and thinks have not gone well, who are no longer 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.000 in the community. Interesting. There's also education aspect. So my 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.160 first official role in the community was I was head 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.880 what were they called nymph? So the nymphs are there 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.720 to serve as the point of contact for content. I 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.000 like that. That's so interesting. I did not know that 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.840 at all. So how many nymphs are normally at a party, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.000 depending on the size of the party. There should be too. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.440 There should be one at the door who's giving me 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.440 a little intro like say, hydrated, always asked for consent, 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.160 don't be creeper, no photos. I've heard someone tell me 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.040 that it was probably me. But there's and there should 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.440 be a circuling nymph that is the more close point 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.440 of contact for whatever people need. Got it? Okay? Nothing 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.320 good thing that I would differentiate between as well in 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.480 that space. Um, the first time that I went to 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.960 an accept of you during covid um, it wasn't the 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.080 last time when I saw you, but the first time 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.800 I brought my boyfriend. And to me, comparing it to 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.640 other sex clubs is it is very kink focus to 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.040 me in the in the realm where we first walked in, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.160 and it was pretty early, it was at ten o'clock, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.200 maybe ten thirty, so before everyone else started really piling in, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.480 and they were still doing their virtual show. And so 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.720 we go in and there is an Asian woman dressed 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.000 as a complete dumb and she is pegging and whipping 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.760 and spanking um across dresser and my boyfriend at that point, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.000 I don't think he had ever really seen that, and 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.600 I was just like, I hope you're comfortable. If you're not, like, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.920 maybe we can, you know, because it's so large. But 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.520 he was actually amused by it, like this was something 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.560 that he had never witnessed in person at all. But 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.480 also the fact that when they were done, I was like, girl, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.520 I love you outfit, and they were like thank you, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.040 and they walked around. And I do enjoy that it 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.920 is a space where you may have bisexuality, gay men, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.040 um and of course straight couples all in one room, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.880 just enjoying each other. I really liked that Daniel being 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.040 by himself. So one you have a sex club run 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.520 by a man who's by and to me, I don't know, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.160 I guess we never. I don't know if I've ever 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.080 been to a sex club where I the owner was 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:11.800 front facing. I can't and I think when you feel 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.119 that connection to someone, you respect their space more. It's 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.040 like an Airbnb. If you stayed at someone's house, you're 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.960 probably gonna be a little more tidy if you know them, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:19.919 and if you're in an airbb, you're gonna be like, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.440 I'm not gonna And I think that the close connection 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.360 in that is really what has helped him create such 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.840 a community like that with people. Like my first time 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.359 going into it in a party, I remember be like, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.400 oh my god, everybody knows each other. They were welcoming 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.439 to me, but I was like each other, how they 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:41.720 all fucked? Like? I was like, am I cute? But 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.880 I was wondering like are they talking to me because 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.960 I'm a newbie? Are they talking to me because I'm 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.280 pretty honestly, we talked to you because we're generally curious, 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.679 like why you're here, and we want to know your fantasies. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.119 Like right now we're building, like I'm helping lead a 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.679 new party called Kink and it's sort of a fantasy space, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.359 so pretty basic. That's a very what's right, we're going 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.280 to kid? What about it? I don't know how to explain, YEA, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.000 So it's kind of Barro from the model of lap 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.680 dance parties, except like come and you can book lap 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.920 dance party. That Yeah, what's the lap dance party. That's 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.159 a whole underground thing in New York where it's like 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.600 not strippers, but you go to Space and they're a 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.520 bunch of like pretty girls and you can get a 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.560 lap dance. You could talk to them. But that's the way. Wait, 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.480 just Ship Club is more explicitly like this is a stage. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.560 Like stage makes it difference well on stage and like 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:37.880 the floors really just like so it's like a party. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.359 I didn't know that was the thing. That's how the 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.520 cost for that the common cost like entrance is usually 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.200 around a hundred and then it's still like twenty dollars 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.639 to lap down ship people like crack and coke. I feel, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:57.160 you know cokea rich people drive dance, but you pay 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.520 expensive tool Sapphire. So how much is the entry ually? 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.840 It depends because I've got my old sugar Daddy, the 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.320 white dude, when he got me that apartment on fifty four, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.560 and we would always go to Sapphires and he was 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.720 always every time, like seventy five. I mean, he looked 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.680 rich whatever, And I was like they are talking now. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.680 I let people get their coins, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.040 And sometimes strippers would come up and they'd be able 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:24.040 to give him this basic price. And I'm like and like, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.879 it's so funny because I think that I don't know 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.399 if this has happened to you, but when women come 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.760 in with sugar daddies or like you know, very like 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.000 super old and her young girl, you like, because they're 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.119 always do you understand right, We're like, I'm not to 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.040 get money, right, there's a certain level of like him 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.879 being a sugar daddy and like you kind of know 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.840 if it's a stripper to like he gets it, he 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:49.560 gets you know, he's going to respect the I don't 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:56.040 think they thought it was a stripper. I would I 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:57.880 might have got a better looking dude to the still live. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.359 But I remember like a few strippers would like kind 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:02.960 of like give me a look, or we would talk, 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.480 or like they'd whisper funny things to me. Um, I'm 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:07.919 talking about girl. And one g eld said to me, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.760 were getting our cash tonight. I noticed, right, well, I'm 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.919 excited to get more into the BDS some conversation with 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.720 you for the horrible decision. But y'all know, bitch, what's 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.240 the whole like outline? So we always do an outline, Mandy, 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.520 I mean, but I'd really like an outline soe that 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.480 I like it, and people know that we've joked about 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.199 you not so much liking it. So I'm gonna make 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.040 sure we seek to the one I made you like it, 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.480 you know, because because I knew like that first topic 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.919 was sensitive and I didn't want to make sure like 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:47.320 you were comfortable. So the vanilla ship for this week, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.000 for those of you who may be watching or listening 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.639 to us for the first time, is our sex in 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:57.439 the news um topic. And this also somehow brings us 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.320