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Speaker 1: I'm your girl, Mandy v A K sign a k

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Speaker 1: A tripod Mommy. Hi am wheezy. I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 1: and a woman decided to film it. However, to her surprise,

424
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: the couple did not seem to mind at all. Um.

425
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: The woman, who didn't want to be named, filmed the

426
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: moment in the hope to embarrass the pair and condemned

427
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: the behavior as a shameful carrier. But maybe they were

428
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: sucking the person in their trouble and the way the

429
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: person dad and you think they trying to That's the

430
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: only way I could see it. Whoa because you wouldn't

431
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: suck on your mom or dad. But like, what if

432
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: you guys you think so you think they were working

433
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: on somebody they knew grave to have sex with the ghost.

434
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: How do you pick the grave? Then it could be

435
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: anybody grave. It's just the great So you just start

436
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: walking and you're like, you know, I like that birthday.

437
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: So actually, when I was looking this up, I actually

438
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: started looking up cemetery sex, and to my surprise, it

439
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: is a very real thing. A lot of people get

440
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: off on it, and it's there's actually a name for

441
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: this kink, and I don't think we've ever done this kink.

442
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: The kink is called ki metrophilia, and what it is

443
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: is the arousal of having sex or being aroused from

444
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: a grave site. Why are you looking like this? Don't

445
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: kink shame, wheezy. I mean, honestly, it was not scandalized

446
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: by at all. No, you aren't surprised, right, how come

447
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I king kink shame? If they're not consenting? Who's not consenting?

448
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: The goat the dead people? The dead people can't consent, wheezy.

449
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: My point is, you gotta be alive. I'm sorry. Necrophilia

450
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: is nuts. Necrophia is nuts and you know necrophilias. You know, Okay,

451
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: that's sucking nuts and so technically this is justice adjacent. No,

452
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: technically it is the area. It is the like some

453
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: HALLOWEENI ship, you know the say is HALLOWEENI ship, this

454
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: is not HALLOWEENI sorry he didn't dress up with a

455
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 1: screen mask. Now I'm not knowing it. I'm not. You're

456
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: not feel it. Would you have sex on a grave in?

457
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: That's okay? No, So how would you choose? Like would

458
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: y'all choose a certain tunes? So like, wait, you done

459
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: this before? I have not, but it's on my list.

460
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: Waits on you on your list on the list. I

461
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: thought you said you re Puerto Rican. This is a perry,

462
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: this is white people ship. Nah, this is you. I

463
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: do like the idea fucking the ghost like I didn't

464
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: think about that. Wait, all right, but just give us

465
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: incubus thing. I can understand. But it's also like feeling

466
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: close to your own death, like I see that being

467
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: part of the can. It's just gag a little bit.

468
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you lost your bro Let me think

469
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: because I understand like goth culture and a lot of

470
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: like that's what came up for this. I get it.

471
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I get it, But for me, I mean, I think

472
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: it's more like on the grade, like yeah, if you

473
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: did it, how would you pick the grave? I pick

474
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: a based on the quote like not the wait do

475
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: you like the like a bird? I'm here? We wait?

476
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: Do you want him to whisper the quote yo ear

477
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: or something like? Or do you both have to do?

478
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: You know this is like a consent thing. Do you

479
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: gotta vibe with the General's not vibe? She said, vibe

480
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: with tombstone? But like, are you gonna do it like

481
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: AUGI word type thing like that would make it hotter?

482
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: You feeling? Oh, that would make it hotter? Bring the

483
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: Uiji board to the state series want to be like

484
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: does he love me? Why? Bitch? Why he all right?

485
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: I know, I bitch, I knew you love me. You

486
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: know what? You probably want to pick a black tombstone?

487
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Be like Darrell, we're working with Darius Dad he was

488
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: born in one was toxic and wrong and problematic. It

489
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: probably is. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like between

490
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: this and the Bible episode, we're gonna have to put

491
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: trigger warnings before I got damn episodes. Now why because

492
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: we talked about dead people and dead people in the Bible.

493
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: The Bible was worse. Somebody was sucking their own dad. Yeah,

494
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: and there was Yeah, I feel like that. I don't

495
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: know if you know about the Bible because I don't,

496
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: but you do. Yesterday. That's Dan and I are best friends.

497
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: We were both like Colts Cold Survivor. Alright, I have

498
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: a whole episode. We got to have you on profast day. No.

499
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I went to lunch yesterday UM with a friend and

500
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I was telling him about how we just I was like, Yo,

501
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: we just did this amazing episode about the Bible and

502
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: it was so much I didn't know. And he was like,

503
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: you talked about that story with a lot and the

504
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: daughter's sucking their dad. And I was like, bro, you

505
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: know what's crazy. I got in the car with my

506
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: nigg because he picked me up and I started. He's

507
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: like he always asked, so, what were your episodes about?

508
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Were they good? And I told him. He was like,

509
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: was she Muslim? Because that just sounds like some ship

510
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: that some people would tell her. And I was like, no,

511
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: but actually she was an atheist activist at one time,

512
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: so you know, she read the Bible to you know, defend,

513
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: defend being atheists. And he was just like, you're probably

514
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: gonna offend the lot of people with that episode. And

515
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it till I started. I was like, no,

516
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: but she did it so good. He was like, you're

517
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: probably gonna find a lot of people you say, look

518
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: at yeah, look at our cameraman's reactions. But we had

519
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: we had pastor coryon who was talking about just gaye ship.

520
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: But that's cool. But let me tell you one thing

521
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: that she didn't I feel like made it better. Okay,

522
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: she talked about all these crazy as stories and then

523
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: talked about like the lesson learned from a lot of them,

524
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: or how cardinal things were, or how things weren't right.

525
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like she used it to weaponize it,

526
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: because she's like a total Even when I was having

527
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: the conversation, he was just like, so the Bible is

528
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: interpreted in so many ways that even the stories that

529
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: she took verbatim, a lot of time those stories are used, um,

530
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: what's the word, not hypothetically but to point out hypocrisy. No,

531
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: they're the stories come they have, they're lying messages for them.

532
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: So even though yeah, it said it was raping. There

533
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: was other messages and I don't know, we don't have

534
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: the seat. Well we'll know the response by now. See

535
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: this is a very at that point, you know what

536
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like the underlying messages, because people will make

537
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: that point that is so like I have a black

538
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: friend or what about this or that was a long

539
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: time ago, Like no, they were raping. Just tell me

540
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: when it talk for sure. That's what That's what was

541
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: in the Bible. That's nuts, it is. That's fucking insane.

542
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: The same with people have a lot of problems with

543
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. Well guess we come on here

544
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: every week and we talk about some disgusting ship and

545
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: you're telling me that we wrote a woman on who

546
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: wants to funk on a grave site? That's none of that.

547
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm about to throw it. Like the first time my

548
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: mom horsing me and I was like, oh, I'm got

549
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: sucked in the asshole. Wait, okay, what you just brought

550
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: up the bootlehou And that's what it is our hord

551
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: Dirt today because you actually name yourself the anal sexpert.

552
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: So for our hord derv which is our sex tips segment,

553
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: we would like for you to give us an anal tip.

554
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: I think the most broad and the most successful tip

555
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: is that anals should be intentional. Okay, I like that,

556
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: because Yeah, I've had it just go there by accident

557
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: because it was slippery, excuse the side, but it was

558
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: slippery and it just went into that hole instead of

559
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: my puszal and it hurts so bad to where I

560
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god. So and I actually

561
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: think that that was one of my first experiences where

562
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, want to ever have anal set. Okay,

563
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: So you say that it should be intentional. It should

564
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: be intentional because it should not just be about the

565
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: person's givings pleasure and the order, like as a bottom

566
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: get into. The thing that I try to promote is

567
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: that the bottom is pleasure. The receiver's pleasure is also

568
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: like important. So for me to experience pleasure in anal,

569
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: I have to be emotionally there for it. I have

570
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: to hygienic lee prep, I have to how I prep.

571
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: I have to make sure I don't drink coffee that morning.

572
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Well, I know how my gay

573
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: male friends prep, but I don't really hear about way.

574
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Didn talk about prep too much rainal no man, I

575
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: prefer in some in similar ways, like I do eat clean,

576
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I do avoid certain foods. What are the food avoid avoid?

577
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Like meats, I avoid cheeses, I avoid sauces, damn all light. Yeah,

578
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: and I do this a lot. So I live a

579
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: very clean oh tiny but but there's a lot of

580
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: fiber and things even in vegetables. So what does eating

581
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: clean um in terms of antal sex me? Well, in

582
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: terms like I know my own body and like what's

583
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna prease what? So for me, like I avoid cheese

584
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: because that's the no no for me. Meat, like especially

585
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: red meats are harder to process, so generally that's one

586
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: to avoid. Or like again like heavy creams, those are

587
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: pretty mesic. Avoid dairy, Okay, I mean you can eat light,

588
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: you cannot eat light. Make sure you're hydrated. But cleaning

589
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: so also like like an hour do you want to

590
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: ship before or do you want to ship or you

591
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: want to hold it? Like do you want to make

592
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: sure you don't want to hold it at to say?

593
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: But like okay, I think what I'm trying to say

594
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: that's clean out you're like a little bit your colon.

595
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: But like like I'm trying to figure out how I'm

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: Do you want to like go directly before you have sex? Right?

597
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Or do you want to like fast that day? That's

598
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: what I mean? Do you want to have Well? Look,

599
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I train so like I'm also like kind of like

600
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: a circus act, Like I do something called anal gaping

601
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: and acrobat You trying to road? Yeah? Wait, what is

602
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: the biggest thing you fit in your head? Miss it?

603
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I can do two point five inches? Right now? What

604
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: is that? Let's see? What is that? The iPhone? It's

605
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: about three and a half. So it's like, right, wait,

606
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: this is the wind? Yeah, so like this is about

607
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: two and a half. Sorry, that is that what I happened?

608
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: This is a big, big one, a little less than

609
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: the big one. But I can do that a little

610
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: less than this big one, yo, buddah yeah, oh b

611
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: So what's the oddest thing you've ever fit in there?

612
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Because we actually talked about acrobats, what is the oddest? Yeah, Like,

613
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: because there's a video within bottles put wine bottles and

614
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: stuff in there? What have you put? What have you

615
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: been able to fit into that? Buddhole? So I try

616
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: to avoid things like that, just because like breaking I

617
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: have requests for bats. I'm like, well, the wood can

618
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: get in like things like that, like you requests, like

619
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: so what's it? Like? I mean, also did the request

620
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: coming like the form of an email when they're like

621
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: booking their sessions? So yeah, like was it like email submission?

622
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Like do people like ask for options? Like yeah, I

623
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: need to know. I mean when it comes to like

624
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: only fans are camming, like I will get requests and

625
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: like part of the empowerment of like only fans is

626
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: like there's a level of consent, like you don't have

627
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to make it. There's no studio director agent um. But

628
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: I have like toys that are pretty crazy. So I

629
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: have a speculum like when you go to the doctor

630
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: writing the people love that, and then you can like

631
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: put stuff in it like I put a dildo. You

632
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: can like pour liquids, like what liquids have you poured

633
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: in your bootole? I did a scene once where we

634
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: poured like different houses like from different countries. So you

635
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: didn't you did it burn? This is not the Puerto

636
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Rican that I thought we were Rican. She was like,

637
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: eat my assiga because guess why, Holy sh it, Okay,

638
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna bro, how have we not heard

639
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: it all, yet I have never heard of someone when

640
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: you fart once it feel like does it hurt? Burns little?

641
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean I could tell stories about how like the

642
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: story trip you Drip. Okay, So one of my booze,

643
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: one of my bibos was at my house and he

644
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: came alot in my asshole. And then the next morning,

645
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: like I was just to be in Brooklyn and being

646
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: in Latino neighborhood. So I was just like working in

647
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: the park, but I lost antern on my phone. So

648
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I went outside of his house to like describe WiFi

649
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: for a second, and like all the calm just came

650
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: out out of your where did it go on? Daniel,

651
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: like on the wadding outside of his house, just trying

652
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: to send an email, and I wasna, yeah, I'm squatting,

653
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: just came out. Were you wearing a skirt? It was

654
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: just yeah, I was very addressed. It was what color

655
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: did it come out? What color was it? Yeah? Like

656
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: was it tan bage? Brown? I was clean? So was

657
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: it a color? Was it a human brown? Like a

658
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: little bit but not really Like I was pretty clean

659
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that day. I hadn't really eaten bro but like I

660
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: hadly had like coming here and like does it feel

661
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: like a release, Like you felt better? Did you feel

662
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: like you were stopped somewhere? Like gaping. There's something about

663
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: gaping that similar to B DSM, where you do like

664
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: your head feels clear in the next day after like

665
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: intense anal. Like really, man, are gonna fucking take this

666
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: clip and show it to the girl and be like, Yo,

667
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: you've been trying to meditate and I've been trying to

668
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: tell you let me holy ship, I mean stuffs talk

669
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: about that all the time, Like you have to get

670
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: into mental state when it's like if it's just like

671
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: an average guy or just if you're used to having anal,

672
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: it's not that experience. But when you're really like I

673
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: do anal fistening too, So that is a whole process.

674
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: I have to get into headspace. I do have to meditate.

675
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I do have to borrow my breeding to get like

676
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: a male's fists in there, which probably the biggest thing

677
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I've had in there. Do you think, I mean, how

678
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: big is it? Na Ill work up to that? Okay,

679
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: you train your butt, like do you use dilators or

680
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you pass that point? Because I feel like we talk

681
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: about me but pus and stuff oh, I like, I'm

682
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: past but plugs. Honestly, if I wear a butt plug,

683
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: I just use it like because to turn someone on,

684
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: like because they like seeing it in there. Okay, the

685
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: way I prep for anything, you know, like if I'm

686
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: doing my own training session or at this point, like

687
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: I just take digging my ass like as long as

688
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: there's some lube and have done well. Actually, we're not

689
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: gonna get into decision. We're gonna get in because it's

690
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: more of it. That was just a horrible decisions squatting

691
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: outside his house with it. That was a horrible decisions salsa.

692
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: But I pread for an I prep with my own fist.

693
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: That's how I think, Like I can't get risk deep

694
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: just because of logistics of it. But it's an easy

695
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: It's like one finger and I do this when I

696
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: do my performances like one, two, three, Sesame Street. You

697
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: gotta cute this is we gotta make it cute because

698
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: we gotta keep looking to be like, I could not

699
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: get through this episode. We literally talked about Odell always

700
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: Cat and they were just like I just couldn't get

701
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: past this reservation in at Dos Caminos tonight. And if

702
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: you guys don't know what that is. It's a Mexican

703
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: restaurant in New York City, and I'm going to think

704
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: of you the entire time. That's actually compliment. Let's get

705
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: into the horrible decision. The horrible decision is a b

706
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: DSM bottom betch. Yes, so you have coined the bottom

707
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: betch phrase that because it's spelled the Girls episode. You

708
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? All right? I mean, I'm not

709
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: trying to make fetch cool, but we're gonna make vetch cool. Um,

710
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: So can you explain to us now? Then? What is

711
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: a bottom in B d S TM specifically for a woman?

712
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: So bottoming, Like I was looking up some of this

713
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: just to make sure I was correct on my way here.

714
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Bottoming comes from the gay community, and it's this. It

715
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: started off just to differentiate like the person who's giving

716
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: and the person's receiving. Right. More recently there's been crossover

717
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: to bottoming is more related to being submissive, so I

718
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: could pick a guy, or a guy could technically top

719
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: another guy and still be considered a bottom. Bottoming now

720
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: is like a new age term for everybody. Basically, I

721
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: mean the term is changing the reason why I claim

722
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: bottom and most I guess girls have taken the ass

723
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: or subs don't. Is has to do with my dentri identity.

724
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: So because I do inhabit male and female bottoming access

725
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: is my male Okay, that does make sense to me.

726
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: All Right, I have UM and is there And I

727
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: guess you just answered too. So there's not really a

728
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: difference between bottoming and subbing. But because you do take

729
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: forms of both, you just can identify as a bottom

730
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: instead of using the word. I'm saying they're not synonymous.

731
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: But there's more flexibility within the gay community too for

732
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: bottoming not to just be the receiver and they're like

733
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: certain people align it with submission and your role as

734
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: being sort of the co conspirator in a fantasy then

735
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: necessarily the person who takes in the ass. So let

736
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: me ask you this too, because we've talked about UM

737
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: and I guess it was my difficulty in wanting to

738
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: even refer to myself as sub because even my partner

739
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: now thinks that I'm a great sub and it's I'm like,

740
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, no, I'm a domb. So when it

741
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: comes to subbing, how much control do you feel like

742
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: you do have outside of consent when you're receiving, you know,

743
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: when you're playing with the toys. How much control do

744
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: you feel like you have being a bottom and being

745
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: a sub. I feel like I have more control, which

746
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: is what we said that as well too, because she

747
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: identifies as a sub and oftentimes feels more control. And

748
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know for me, I guess listening to the

749
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: word sub I have not been able to. I mean

750
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: word association like submissive is definitely something that makes you

751
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: feel powerless when you hear that word. Um, But I

752
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: think the main thing about it is if I'm domming

753
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: some one, which only really had been girls that I've

754
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: dated m I still felt like I was at their

755
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: will and not as in control because I was never

756
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: going to do something they didn't want. But it never

757
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: made me feel as in control. I can't even explain it, Like,

758
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's maybe it's a personality thing, but

759
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: like sometimes like I don't necessarily feel very powerful and

760
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: my voice is loud, or I don't feel very powerful

761
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: if I'm on stage, like I don't feel like that.

762
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I mean, and I've learned that

763
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: a lot through doing horrible decisions, Like I feel like

764
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm serving people, you know what I mean, Like my

765
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: job is to like make you happy because you're here.

766
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: And so with subbing, it doesn't make me feel I

767
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean with dommy, it doesn't make me

768
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: feel very like in control and on top. I can't explain.

769
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I've never gotten that from doomming. Maybe a few times

770
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: with like smacking, for i'd say, like a man particularly,

771
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: maybe I've felt that, but never have I truly felt

772
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: like I was more controlled than subbing. And I think

773
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: that a lot of people need to experience it, especially

774
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: subbing on your own accord. Right, So, like you've talked

775
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: about how like you didn't know what was gonna happen,

776
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: but if there was maybe a night where you picked

777
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: everything you wanted him to do by your rules, I

778
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: think then you would more so feel like you took

779
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: the power back. Well, that's well, and that's what he's

780
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: told me. He's like, there's been so many times that

781
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: you actually have been in control and I've been sub

782
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: to you and you don't see it as that. But

783
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: even with me bringing him to the sex club, going

784
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: to the nude beach, things in which I've introduced him

785
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: to new things, he's like, you don't even realize it,

786
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: but but I'm completely submissive to you in those times

787
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: because You're showing me things that I I don't know.

788
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: And so it's been those conversations where I'm like, oh, okay,

789
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: because I have felt completely submissive. I remember, like maybe

790
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: early on maybe the third or fourth time we had sex,

791
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: I felt like I had never been dominated like that

792
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: ever in sex, and I like just slap the funk

793
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: out of him just so that I could feel like, shit,

794
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I've run something here, and so like we have had

795
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: that conversation. But yeah, I guess you're right. I guess

796
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: you're at like, I don't know. I think I am

797
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: hung up on the words, which is crazy because specifically

798
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: in this space, a lot of guests that we have,

799
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: we've had on don't want to be hung up on titles,

800
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: and so we do actually like, like you said, even

801
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: the fluidity of going between sub and bottoming and it

802
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: being synonymous but not really using those words to mean

803
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: what we think for them to meet? What are some

804
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: other terms that we don't know? Do you do you

805
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: know any or if any if besides sabbing or bottoming,

806
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean we could also get into the language of

807
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: like sadism and massaculine. So like I was in seven

808
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: master slave dynamic recently, so that meant like we did

809
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: have check ins regularly, and but there was this general

810
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: sense of these are the things you do and then

811
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: I walk into the room or even when we're texting,

812
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: like you control. So when you were in that seven relationship.

813
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: The last time we talked about it was King Sukiki

814
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: and I referenced the movie The Secretary. Do you were

815
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: you living together? What was your dynamic? Like how long

816
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: did you each I mean, or how often did you

817
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: see each other? So it was Polly, we weren't living together.

818
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: I saw him once a week and that would be

819
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: like our date night, but also or like punishment night.

820
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: Got it, and it took different forms depending on what

821
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: was happening in the world, So like while it was stripping,

822
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: it was based on my outcome stripping and generally how

823
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I respected him as elaborate. What is that right? I

824
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: don't know, use the words what does what does outcome us?

825
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Their words the words that I'm just like, wait, wait,

826
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: the outcome of your stripping? I mean, like how productive

827
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: was I that week? Okay? Yeah? And he would punish

828
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: you if you ain't make enough. Yeah, I mean you'll punished.

829
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: Maybe felt like it like that was built into it,

830
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: but there was a sense of like the whole point

831
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: of the dynamic was to improve me as a person.

832
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: So anything that was tied to punishment, I love that

833
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: was tied to self improvement. Okay, yeah, I think too

834
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: bad to suck them dicks tonight. It's crazy because I'm

835
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: like having that conversation, like, you know, going to Mexico.

836
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: We would have already have been to Mexico, but um,

837
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: the idea of me if I do decide to do something,

838
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: making sure I FaceTime him to watch or ask him first,

839
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: Like he's like, I know, you go mis behave in

840
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Mexico And I'm like, no, but I want your dick.

841
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: You want to do the FaceTime to watch. Yeah, I've

842
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: actually I've actually shared that with him. I said, listen,

843
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: if I do anything or I think I'm gonna do anything,

844
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: I'll be sure to FaceTime you and I really do

845
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: it first. This is why FaceTime during her I kind

846
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: of want to let him know, but then he has

847
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: to watch. Like that's when the thing if I do something,

848
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: you have to watch, wait you want that. Yes, I

849
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: told him, did he want to watch? He got a choice,

850
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: is what I said, We're gonna do, but not really

851
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: like this is because I'm only saying that because the watching.

852
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot deeper than you think. And

853
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: that took me a long time. Think it's the conversation

854
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: we've been having because even in um at the sex club,

855
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: the first time we went, he played with two other women,

856
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: and the last time we went it was just me

857
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: and him. We were checking with each other, we talked

858
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: to other people. Yeah, but he's been like, so you

859
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: don't wanna like he tried to give me the blame too,

860
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: and he was just here like I know, I know

861
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: you're away, and someone knows that someone else is there.

862
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Multiple time who were there both of them were later

863
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: and now that I remember that night, you were definitely

864
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: getting it in on the other side of the room.

865
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: But no, but he's been just be careful of vacations.

866
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm really like, I'm watching. I mean, well, I'm also

867
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: just because he feels like I'm just so open, like

868
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about three simes. But I do feel like

869
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: he feels like my guard is up with him because

870
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: of course, when we first met, I went on some

871
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: just so you know, I ain't cutting off on my hose,

872
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: but I'm just looking for somebody. I was looking for

873
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: seven replacement when we when we met, and he has

874
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: become way more than that. And so the things that

875
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: I said early on and applying right now because I

876
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: don't want no other dicks, but he wants me to

877
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: get me dick like only me speaking from experience with watching,

878
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: and I can tell you how it went, like now

879
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: it's a little different. Right, So the beginning, watching was

880
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: the first thing we did, like a FaceTime thing, right,

881
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: And I remember the immediate feeling I had, which was

882
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: like when it was over, I'm like, well now what

883
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: like I'm going to bed in their chilling or like

884
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: that person before. Also then I started thinking more like okay, well,

885
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: like maybe they just wanted to get over that because

886
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's awkward for a little bit, like do

887
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I sit there the whole time like what's happening? And

888
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: then do they want to work without me watching? Like

889
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of that was going through my mind and

890
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: it almost made it uncomfortable because it was like, damn, bitch,

891
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to do what you wanted me to do, right,

892
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: So now it's a way better dynamic. It's like consent

893
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: before it happens, and kind of like the aftercall, which

894
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I love doing. I've done it and he's done it,

895
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: and like I've been in the bed and he's like,

896
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I use a little hole bit and I was like

897
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I and we'll talk about it and it's fun and

898
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: like or the next day we'll even do it maybe

899
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: if it's like super late at night. But the watching

900
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: is different. It's way more different than you think. And

901
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: you've had you have multiple when it comes to face

902
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: I want to know what you're like, what your experience

903
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: has been with this. Have you ever like had sex

904
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: with one of your partners and made another watch either

905
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: during via FaceTime outside of the sex club we know, like, yeah,

906
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: you're like a bitch there for the sex club when

907
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: I was still in a poly kind of suation, or

908
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: just like an open relationship that we would do snapchaty

909
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: and you liked, you would send videos, you would send

910
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: snapchats while it was happening. I think that's better that

911
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: not the face time. But I do like the after

912
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: call because there's this sense of like naturally, I think

913
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: the cu cold fantasy on the giving or the receiving end,

914
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: there's something that's a little bit tied to fear, I definitely,

915
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: or transforming fear into something erotic. Whether it's naturally you

916
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: or not, it's still tied to fear. So to have

917
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: that aftercare, I like that. Yeah. I mean I think

918
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: the other nice part about it too, Like one of

919
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: the things that I've asked for, I was like, no sleepovers.

920
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: And it's so juvenile now that I think about it,

921
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: because like there's so many late nights in Miami or wherever,

922
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: likely a lot of vacation ship and you know, he

923
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: asked me when it's like, what's the sleepover thing to you?

924
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: I was like, that's like the most vulnerable and sacred

925
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: thing that I think we do. And that's really why

926
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: to me, the sleepover was a big deal. So this

927
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: thing has called me like eight thirty in the morning

928
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: and like exhausted, like okay, she left, and I was

929
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: like okay, now, you know, I mean, it's a weird thing.

930
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's something about being able to

931
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: go to bed together and talk about it. I have

932
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: that moment's fun, like whereas before maybe I would call

933
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: my homegirls and talk about what happened. But now I

934
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: can call you, so I like that, Yeah, that's it's fun.

935
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: It's fun. But I only even bring up the face

936
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: timing thing because I think, yeah, it is cut holding

937
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: in a way, it's virtual cut holding, but I think

938
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: that it's really high end when you're away from each other,

939
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: and I feel like that would be hard for me

940
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: to manage, you know, so I think for a first time,

941
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: I just can't. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to

942
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: see what we want because he's definitely like been just

943
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: saying I know you're going fun out there, and I'm like, no,

944
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: maybe i'm not. And then it recently got brought up.

945
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: I was like, well, if I do, you're gonna watch

946
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: and he was like and kind of looked like it

947
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: was exciting that I offered that. So now, like, I

948
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: guess we have to talk through it. I don't know,

949
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: I've never done this ship before, not what a nigga

950
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: like that I've been with. I mean, this is also

951
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I faced timed once while someone I was dating was

952
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: this girl, and I remember, oh no no, no, no, no,

953
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: no no. It was Old Bay New Year's I was away,

954
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: he was in another country. We're both in two different countries,

955
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: and I remember specifically he was like saying love you

956
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: and all this stuff and the girls right there in

957
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: the cabin. She was feeling weird, and I was like,

958
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, like the other person too. I didn't

959
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: really think of like maybe now she doesn't want to

960
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: him anymore, like would you feel weird? Well, So on

961
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that point, I just like went away with like someone

962
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing and his boyfriend. Oh and there were

963
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: times that we played together, but there are a lot

964
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: of times they were like just on the couch, like

965
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: having their moment and I was there. And so you

966
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you've you've mentioned a few times, and I want to

967
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: ask this because we had I've had recently two bisexual

968
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: men on the show. Um, can you explain to maybe

969
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: our listeners your experience with dating bisexual men. I think

970
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: I've always been attracted to people both men and women,

971
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: since I also identify as bisexual, who again have very

972
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: strong male and female energies. But I've not been comfortable

973
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: with that and what I've found through an SFW because

974
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: it's a very there's a very large bisexual subcommunity. Are

975
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: bisexual men that I really connect with. And of the

976
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: two people that I'm seeing, one I inhabit a more

977
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: male dominant role. In the other one I inhabit a

978
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: more female submissive role. But I find such a comfort

979
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: with their sexuality, such a flexibility and shifting in those energies,

980
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: and just an acceptance of me in the in the

981
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: time of the way that you said you went somewhere

982
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: with one of your booze and their boyfriend. Hm, what

983
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: was the have you had experienced is with male male

984
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: female threesomes outside of by threesomes and what was the

985
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: main difference for you? So, like having sex with two

986
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: men that don't touch and then you know ones that

987
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: are intimate as they are. Oh, I've had both. Actually

988
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: happens a lot of times, Nsfure Like one of my

989
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: dynamics is like when we're at a party, he like

990
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: if a guy comes up to me and starts fliring

991
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: with me, like I can have sex with that guy,

992
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: like if he's also fucking or like if I'm also

993
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: sucking his dick. So it's a lot of straight men

994
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: we have sex with, but like he's part of the chain, okay,

995
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: which a lot of men feel okay. With that, do

996
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: you which do you enjoy more? Do you enjoy where

997
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: they play with each other or where there's a chain

998
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: and they are kind of separated by you. I mean

999
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: I enjoyed double double penetration. You've done double anal? Yeah?

1000
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: How does that work? So we actually had a question

1001
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: in our Atlanta so where a guy said the dicks

1002
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: kept slipping out? How do you keep both dicks in

1003
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: your ass or it's like they will slip out? But

1004
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: about positioning and you have to be comfortable to readjusting

1005
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: what's the best for you? Do you have to sit

1006
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: on it? Like like how do you do? Yeah? You're

1007
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: like I was, honest to God thinking of it. That's

1008
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: why I was like, uh because for me, what I

1009
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: would think is like, um, I'd be sitting facing forward

1010
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: someone like almost like a girl on top, and then

1011
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: the other one comes behind me. That's right. It's like

1012
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: you're bent over but you're almost sitting. Well, there's like

1013
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: a guy underneath you who's like in the pussy and

1014
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: then the guy comes in from behind in the assid

1015
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: or like double in either so it's kind of like

1016
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: almost sitting and you like do you come have you

1017
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: had an anal orgasm that way. Oh yeah, well, let

1018
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: me just put out there I come more from anal

1019
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: than I do from anything else, which is part of

1020
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: the anal sexpertise sense. But I love it, especially when

1021
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: it's in a context of two bisexual men or a

1022
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: man or a male male couple, because I think there's

1023
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: something like I'm really enjoying it just base pleasure, but

1024
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: there's a way in which I my body allows them

1025
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: to connect mm hmm that I feel so much like

1026
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: compulsion and joy that I can help them. Like I

1027
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: just talked about compersion on uh something on Quimby with

1028
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: our friend Shan Booty, and I was like, you know,

1029
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: compersion is so interesting because, uh, for those of you

1030
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know, compersion is the opposite of jealousy when you're

1031
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: feeling like overwhelming joy for someone that's enjoying pleasure or

1032
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: in love with someone else. I feel like I'm half right,

1033
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: Like I love and feel amazing when someone that I

1034
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: care about is enjoying sex with someone else, but not

1035
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: necessarily when there's an emotional attachment. But that's interesting because

1036
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: you're saying that you know you're the bond between these

1037
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: two people that makes you feel good our We have

1038
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: a good friend, um dubs. She came on and she's

1039
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: been a unicorn for a long time, and she would

1040
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: always try to explain it to me. I never got it.

1041
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: She's sometimes I feel like the missing piece, or I

1042
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: love watching the two of them are. Seeing this couple's

1043
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: love makes me feel happy. And there were times where

1044
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if necessarily judging, but I would wonder

1045
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: if she enjoyed it because she wasn't having love like

1046
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: she was single, and I'm like, I wonder if that's

1047
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: our way to get it, or if it's really that,

1048
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm curious, like do

1049
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: you ever feel emptiness from it if you're not necessarily

1050
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: a part of the relationship. So it's just on like

1051
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: a two week or so a little more like almost

1052
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: three week vacation with a couple, right, And the trip

1053
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: wasn't about me. I was there just because you know,

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00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: I love this person. I wanted to spend some time

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00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: with the person they love, and also I need to

1056
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: get away. So there was a lot involved, but it

1057
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: wasn't about me, and I went knowing that, like, this

1058
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: is not about my pleasure. I'm gonna be sleeping in

1059
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: my own bed like a lot of times, like I said,

1060
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: they just had sex in the couch next to me.

1061
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: And what I learned was like, after a while, like yeah,

1062
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I do have my own needs. And I had to

1063
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: find agency in that and say, hey, I need a

1064
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: kiss before bed, or I need a hug in the morning,

1065
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: because you too have your needs even though you're they're

1066
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: providing for a couple, so there's a space too. I

1067
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: love the experience and for compulsion, but it's also important

1068
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: to advocate for what your needs are and to navigate

1069
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: what the situation is. Come on communication, Did you spend

1070
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: every night alone? They were like one or two nights

1071
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: where like maybe the other person stayed out late, but

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: pretty much the whole time. I ain't gonna hold you.

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00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: I want I went on a trip with one of

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00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: my lovers last summer and I invited three of my

1075
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: friends and I let them know, y'all may or may

1076
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: not have to, you know, sleep with me in my nigga,

1077
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: And they did. And I loved it because my friends,

1078
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: after they joined us in in some play, they left

1079
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: the room and allowed me and him that space, and

1080
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: they were like, all right, we'll see you at the

1081
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: bar and they literally left us and allowed me to,

1082
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy that space with my lover by myself,

1083
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: which I appreciate it. Um, before we do get out

1084
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: of here, I do you want to quickly get to

1085
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: the whole meal, and we're gonna make this one quick. Uh.

1086
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: So this was please feel free to give any advice

1087
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: because it is dealing with sugar daddies. Um. So it says, hey, ladies.

1088
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: Back in when I was twenty one, I met a

1089
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: sugar daddy. Quote she put in quotes Grandpa out and

1090
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: about an a t L who I've been dealing with

1091
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: ever since. His dick is trash, but the money and

1092
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: fun spirit keeps me around. He's also a trash ass

1093
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: nigga who lied about his wife and kids and even

1094
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: when as far as to sleep with my best friend,

1095
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: which eventually calls us to end our nine year friendship.

1096
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm a vengeful person. Sorry, not sorry, I'm a leo.

1097
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: So I always had it in my mind that I

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00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: would get him back. In May, he planned to take

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: me out to celebrate my graduation, but his business meeting

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00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: ran over a bit, so instead met him at the

1101
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: Four Seasons where he was having his meeting. Needless to say,

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I met some of his colleagues and decided that I

1103
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: would suck one big dick. Willie bed W is what

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00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: we'll call him. We exchanged numbers and hit it off

1105
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: almost in me did lee. Initially I thought I would

1106
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: handle him like grandpa, hanging around just for money in

1107
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: a good time, until he hit me with that dick. Girl.

1108
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: This man fuck me like no other. This man has

1109
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: double dick, and he's super open, freaky, and his stamina

1110
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: is unmatched. We even got tickets to the A t

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: L Show, but it was canceled. I know, bitch, I

1112
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: would have loved to meet you. Now, that's what I

1113
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: did not believe. It was really like, I mean, she

1114
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: was really like. We don't know if they we don't

1115
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: know if they got coronavirus from us. Fast forwarding to now,

1116
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: in b d W told me that he had met

1117
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: someone who he was interested in dating, so we decided

1118
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: to stop sucking. I am super chill, so I had

1119
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: stepped back and stopped hitting him up out of respect

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00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: for his relationship. He, on the other hand, continued to

1121
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: hit me up and hit me up here and there

1122
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: through I g in a friendly manner. It started to

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00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: be flirty back in August and I kind of played

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: into it, but not too much. Now he is full

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: on trying to funk, and I am truly confused on

1126
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: what to do. I haven't had sex since him and

1127
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: have no desire to funk with anyone else. I'm too

1128
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: scared to get some weak as dick from somewhere else

1129
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: and be disappointed. But I want to suck him. But

1130
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: I feel like still dealing with karma from Grandpa being married,

1131
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I can't find a man now. Oh

1132
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: my god, I went through this b d W and

1133
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: I keep making plans and then going back on them

1134
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: because we both know it's wrong. What should I do?

1135
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Suck him and get ten more years of bad karma

1136
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: and feel guilty afterwards, or block his ass and cut

1137
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: ties for good. I'm not gonna lie. I just actually

1138
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: want to mention that this has been something I've been

1139
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: going through with my current relationship. I think for a

1140
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: long time. Because I've openly had relationships with married men,

1141
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: A part of me felt like, all right, karma gonna come.

1142
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: I just ain't never gonna get a nigga. This is

1143
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: all I should take from what men are given me.

1144
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: So I thought my relationship ship and all my other

1145
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: lovers made sense because that's what I get for fucking

1146
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: with these married men. So I understand where she's coming

1147
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: from with that UM. Also the fact that she was

1148
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: vengeful in this UM. I think that the way she

1149
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: started it out wasn't away in what she was looking

1150
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: for a relationship. However, because his dick is so good,

1151
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe she does want more from him, which is why

1152
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: she decided to pull back. He started dating, you know

1153
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I think that if you can

1154
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: get in your mind that you can still enjoy this

1155
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: person without being in a relationship with him, then go

1156
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: for it. But if you genuinely want something deeper with

1157
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: this person, I would say cut ties right now, because

1158
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: it's you're just gonna be teasing yourself and making yourself

1159
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: feel more bad for the things that you feel. Like

1160
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: karma has come and you know written do it. I

1161
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: do think karma is a real thing, like I think,

1162
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you may have paid hers in other ways,

1163
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: they will never know, Like I think my first relationship

1164
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: with someone who was me and this is really why

1165
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to sleep but a married man.

1166
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: The first man I really fell in love with was

1167
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: married and I genuinely didn't know. And then when he

1168
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: told me, I was trying to break up with him,

1169
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: and he ended up getting a divorced and we were

1170
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: together for two years after that, and I remember feeling

1171
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: guilty the whole time. Um, true, I wasn't the reason

1172
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: they divorced, right, Like, I mean, I'm sure it's just

1173
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: the push over the edge for him. They were already

1174
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: separated at the time, which is what made it so

1175
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: easy to date me. But I think back to it

1176
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, I was young, but

1177
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: also I keep letting it happen, Like I could have

1178
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: taken myself out of the equation, but I stayed right.

1179
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: And to me, that selfishness is what really made a

1180
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: lot of the relationships difficult for me that I had,

1181
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: or made love troubling to find and different ships, Like

1182
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: I just had a lot of issues with relationships, and

1183
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: I always believed it was the karma. I think that

1184
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: ship is real. I feel like it's just I don't know,

1185
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: And even if it's not necessarily real, you'll manifest it

1186
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: in some way. Will be too pessimistic about a relationship

1187
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: because we need we fucked someone over, or when you

1188
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: feel that guilty you of something's wrong, I think you

1189
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: do have to let it go. I agree, yeah, I mean,

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I also believe in Carmen, you've seen your life, but

1191
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that should let you not realize your

1192
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: full desires or you're full. I agree with that too absolutely,

1193
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: and which I desire cash. Yeah, it's weird because there's

1194
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: this thing about money in my head, like when it

1195
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: comes to a sex workers right where I'm always just like, well,

1196
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: that's different. I don't know why it's so different, but

1197
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: to me, but for me, I think the emotional aspect

1198
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: of cheating and enabling someone to cheat, that's that's married.

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01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: That makes it more fucked up, especially when you're with

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: someone that may ultimately one relationship. When it is sex workers,

1201
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well you get paid, but a job,

1202
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I mean, if if I don't

1203
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: think drug dealers are wrong because they serve the fiends,

1204
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: like I think that's their job. That to me, if

1205
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: you are engaging in sexual activity for money, whether you

1206
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: want to call it a sugar daddy or even in

1207
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: my case, I've come on here and said all the

1208
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: married men I financially gained from. So if it sounds

1209
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: better or in my mind makes me feel like, okay,

1210
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe karma won't come to me because I enacted as

1211
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: a sex worker, then okay, you know what I mean, Um,

1212
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that me dealing with married

1213
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: men in the capacity that I did was barely any

1214
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: different than a sex worker. I engaged in those relationships

1215
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: for a financial game, So I mean, I'm not gonna

1216
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: lie part of it. Yes, part of it was wrong,

1217
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: but a part of it does make me feel like, Okay, well,

1218
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: I was providing a service. It was a job, you

1219
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so will karma actually come

1220
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: back for me? I think it was more so how

1221
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: I valued myself and what I felt like I deserved

1222
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: from men because I engaged in these relationships. So, and

1223
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Where you deserve doesn't change how

1224
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: life is gonna play out, food is gonna play off

1225
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: for you. And if anything, that's part of the karma itself.

1226
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: It's like the guilt that eats you. Yeah it is,

1227
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what it is. I think

1228
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: just the guilt and how I decided to continue moving No,

1229
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: so you're completely right. Um, Dia, thank you for joining us.

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Can you let us know where our followers may be

1231
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: able to follow you? I know you have your Instagram,

1232
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: your Twitter and your only fans. Go ahead and plug

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Speaker 1: that and it will be in the description Twitter is

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Speaker 1: at the bottom bitch dot com. Only fans that dare Macia,

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Speaker 1: dare Dia, dare so d a y a husband eater y. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into another episode of

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Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions. Make sure to stay tuned. We are leaving

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Speaker 1: you with a five minute bonus clip from our patreon.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Um, and thank you once again for tuning

1243
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: into another episode of Horror Decisions by ladies. I love

1244
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: everything you do. I just found something out. I'm freaking out.

1245
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: I have no clue what to do. I was just

1246
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: informed by my boyfriend that is ex has herpes and

1247
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: did while they were together. She wasn't having an outbreak

1248
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: then they never fully had sex. I don't know what

1249
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: the funk that means. But I know your episode with Ella,

1250
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: that's still possible to even get it then, and it's

1251
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: extremely common. So I'm not upset over the possibility that

1252
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: have her I have her pies. I'm piste off that

1253
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I was just informed of this almost a year into

1254
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: our relationship. He's never been tested for it or an

1255
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: STD in general. It was dumb and not like me

1256
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: to still have sex with him after that, but I

1257
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: immediately got tested on my own. But as discussed on

1258
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: Ella's episode, they don't test for her pies. Not caring

1259
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: about your own sexual health is one thing, but I

1260
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: feel like not caring about your partner's sexual health is another.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if I have it, like I said,

1262
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: but I just feel very betrayed and disrespected. I'm not

1263
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: sure what to do. He knows I'm mad at him,

1264
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: but with dumping him be over dramatic. I feel like

1265
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: hiding something is kind of a deal breaker. Please help me.

1266
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm a patron. You can read this on there too.

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Um So, she mentioned that she got tested, but really

1268
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: realize that they don't test for her bees. That's only

1269
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: because you have to just ask, so they do test

1270
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: you for her bees. If you go in for an

1271
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: STD screening, however, you have to ask for them to

1272
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: include her pies. So she's just saying like she got

1273
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: tested after but but like, like you know, it's sometimes

1274
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: you've got to us story, so just go back and requested.

1275
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing is is dumping him over

1276
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: gramatic because she said, it's not about the herpes, it's

1277
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: about um the deal breaker from hiding something. I'll be

1278
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: honest with you, and I surprised I'm even saying this,

1279
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: but I don't even know if he realized he was

1280
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: hiding something. And here's why. If a year later he

1281
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: told you, I yes, Like, I think here's the the

1282
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: interesting thing. You can be mad that he didn't care

1283
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: enough about your health because that is something that's super

1284
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: important that people don't give a funk about. Right, People

1285
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: care about themselves and people are worried about their own ship.

1286
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Not everyone is just conci conscientious about others around them.

1287
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: That's why people voted for Trump. Right, that's like just

1288
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: a more over larger issue. People are not selfless like

1289
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: they need to be. That is an issue for you.

1290
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: Let that be the issue for you. But if he

1291
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: eventually told you. He probably never realized that he was

1292
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote lying right, So I don't know if dumping

1293
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: him for that would be over dramatic. I think dumping

1294
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: him should be because you feel like he doesn't care

1295
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: about that as much more than he hit it, because

1296
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did it. I think that

1297
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: this would be a time for you both to talk

1298
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: about your sexual health and being that he never went

1299
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: and got tested. To me, there's nothing technically wrong with

1300
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: him not disclosing the health of someone else. I think

1301
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: that this is something to where you can both take

1302
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: as a learning lesson. But the fact that he didn't

1303
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: disclose something that could be very private to someone else uh.

1304
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: To me, it's more so the fact that he never

1305
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: thought the need to go and get tested, which means

1306
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: he may not see herpies as a big deal, which

1307
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: means the two of you may need to open up

1308
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: about your views on sexual health as it pertains to

1309
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: as TDS, and this could be the time to where

1310
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: you both go and get tested together, or you find

1311
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: or you find out from him why herpies isn't a

1312
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: big deal to him. Maybe he feels like it's not

1313
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: that big of a deal as long as you don't

1314
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: get outbreaks, or maybe he feels like how or maybe

1315
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: he feels like so many people in the world. I mean,

1316
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: we've talked about it even on the episode. Eighty percent

1317
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: of people have have some form of herpie simplex. Of course,

1318
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: there's the one on your mouth and the one on

1319
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: your genitals, but also herpies can can end up in

1320
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: any moist area on your body. You can get hertpies

1321
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: and you're goddamn arn't pit. So I think that it's

1322
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: important for you, guys to discuss your views on sexually

1323
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: transmitted disease and your sexual health and not use this

1324
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: as a time to to to badger him or or

1325
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: punish him by breaking up with him. But this is

1326
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: a chance for you to educate him and maybe see

1327
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: where his views are on this. That's a really important thing,

1328
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: is that he may not just understand and um, and

1329
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: everything is a learning moment and a teaching woman. Excuse me,

1330
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: And when it happens like this, especially if he told

1331
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: you a year later, it doesn't sound like a lie. Um. Also, bitch,

1332
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: what has never fully had sex? Because you look white? Zoe?

1333
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: And I wonder if this is some white people, because

1334
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: when white people say we hooked up, I'm like, what

1335
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: that means. I don't know what hooked up means. Do

1336
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: you know what it means, Mandy, because I don't hooked

1337
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: up without sex. Maybe just make people be like, yeah,

1338
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: we hooked up once, and you're like, what I'm saying

1339
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: hooking hooking up the sex. That's what I thought, so

1340
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: what I'm looking up. But hooking up is the same

1341
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: way we talked about dating, meaning something depending on the

1342
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: person or up I mean, but we also say oral

1343
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: sex is sex, So my nigga, it's still sex. Okay, Well,

1344
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: maybe that's what she means they her fully had sex.

1345
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: When she said they'd never fully had sex, that made

1346
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: me think to myself, they drop or played an or