1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Thirteen years in the NFL played every offensive line position 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, made the playoffs three times. Works 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: for the NFL networks, does a really good job of 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: breaking down. I said this three or four years ago. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: It just popped off the internet. I was watching Baldy's 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: breakdowns and he's now at the NFL Film's offices in 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: the Northeast. So you Quinn Williams, I said, Quinn Williams 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: is another escape from New York success story. Like coach coaches, 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: players leave and they're just That's why I said, watch 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner with the Colts. Over time, it'll pay off. 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: I look at Quinton and I was like, Oh, that's 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: the Robert Solin Quinton. That's an elite top five interior 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: d lineman. Many people thought he was regressing. What did 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: the tape, say. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, I mean he had one sack with the Jets. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: In the first eight games of season, he had a 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: sack and a half and five quarterback hits. You know, 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: just the other night against the Raiders. I mean, they 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: couldn't block them one on one. The Raiders should know 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: that that's not a good offensive line. But you know 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: him and Kenny Clark and Jdevian and you know, you 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: add in Logan Wilson and Malik Hooker comes back and 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: to Marvia and overshown. All of a sudden, this defense 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 4: might have a chance to be pretty good. We'll find 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: out against Philly this week. But I mean, Jerry should 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: be smiling because I think it was a good deal 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: because Quinn could flat out play. He's just sick of losing, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 4: is what he's sick. 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: Of, be honest me. But he's always been able to play. 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I said this, I'm more optimistic on the Cowboys because 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: they don't need a quarterback and have two first round picks, 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and people will trade up an overdraft quarter It's now 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: what we do in the NFL. You just every even 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: good GMS acknowledge you're going to have to overdraft that 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: position so they can manipulate the draft. 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: They'll go out and get. 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: A Caleb Downs an edge rusher, and now with Kenny 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: Clark and Quinn Williams an overshow and you're like, Okay, 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good front seven. 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 5: So I'm pretty high on them. 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: A question is do you when you watch the film 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys Ceedee Lambs are one. Do they need 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: to sign Pickens or it looks like to me they've 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: got a few of these guys who can run and catch. 52 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel Pickens is a guy despite his personality? 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Would you re sign them or do you think they're 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty stocked at receiver. 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: I'd resigned them. 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: I mean they haven't had an ex receiver like that, 57 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: you know, maybe since Samrii Cooper first came there. 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: It's been a big void. 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: And what it really allows, you know, Brian Schottenheimer and 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: the offense to move CD around where he's best in 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: matchups in motion, the Z position, and so you can 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 4: really line up a guy on the outside that take 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: on the best corner in some cases. Uh, And then 64 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: you know you have CD in the middle of the 65 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: field doing what he does because he's just so tough 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: and skilled in there. 67 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: I think I would resign him. 68 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: He's having the best year of his career right now, 69 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I think there's still a lot 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: of good football to be played this year from him. 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 72 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I also think Dak's maturity is that he's dealt with 73 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Dak makes it easier to have a court 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: with a teammate with a big personality. I mean, he 75 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: had Zeke, he had Dez Dak. You know, I always 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: tend to think like that. 77 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: AJ. 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk Eagles. The AJ Brown drama, to me, would 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: be worse if it wasn't. Jalen Hurts, who's a Vegas 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: used to call it a cooler somebody was hot at 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: the tableship brought. 82 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: That's kind of a Jalen. He's kind of a grown up. 83 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: He's got a high IQ EQ Philadelphia. It's interesting they 84 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: are not good when Lane Johnson doesn't play well, you know, 85 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: a line. He's a right tackle. What I mean, right 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: tackles aren't supposed to be that value. What happens when 87 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: he leaves? Because the Jalen's five and nine without Lane starting, 88 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you just got to look at you know, 90 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: some of the edge rushers that go over the right tackle. 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, whether it was Von Miller's prime 92 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: or TJ. 93 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: Watt, you know you're seeing some of the best pass 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: rush Brian Burns, You're seeing some of the best pass 95 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: rushers in this league line up over the right tackle. 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: Now Fred Johnson is taking his place. No relation, by 97 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: the way, but you know they so they have it 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 4: has Like they lost to the Jets one year a 99 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: couple of years ago when Lane got hurt in the 100 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: first quarter and Bryce hoff went nuts and they turned 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: the ball over. A bunch of the Jets somehow beat 102 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: the Eagles up at MetLife Stadium. So I mean there's 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: great pass rushers over that position, but Lane doesn't get beat. 104 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't been beat once this whole year. Like he's 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: just a complete, lockdown, elite talent. He's the best tackle 106 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: in football and has been. And so when you have 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: to take a step down from the very best, you know, 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: it starts to look a little bit normal some Sundays out. 109 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: There, So people are really mixed on Caleb Williams. Ben 110 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Johnson has created a run first team. They're good late, 111 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: but even the people I bring on, like Matt Hasselbeck. 112 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I can tell it his voice. He's still not buying it. 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: What concerns you with Caleb obviously the good stuff, the 114 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: horsepower we can see when you break down Caleb. 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 5: Is there stuff that worries you. 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: Still, he's evolving. Okay, you know he's never played under 117 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: center before. You know he's playing under center and it's 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: a big part of what they do. I mean they 119 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: run the ball from him under center that they probably 120 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: play action. 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: Pass as much as anybody. 122 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: Maybe the Rams do a little bit more, but he 123 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: did play action pass often as much as U. Kenny's 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 4: throwing the ball on timing a lot better than he 125 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: once did. He's not as frenetic as he was at 126 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 4: usc OR last year as a rookie. 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: I see an improving player and his ability to stay 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: on his feet. 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 4: At this time last year he had been sacked forty 130 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: one times, and right now he's been sacked sixteen. He's 131 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 4: not taking nearly as many sacks. He's seeing the field. 132 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: If the guys could catch his ball a little bit better, 133 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: his stats would be better. But I think this guy's 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: got I mean, we'll find out he's got a big 135 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: game against Pittsburgh in that pass rush this week. But 136 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: I believe in in Caleb a lot, and I think 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: he's only going to get better because I think Ben 138 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 4: Johnson coaches him. 139 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: The right way. He coaches him hard, he pushes him hard. 140 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: I think he's pulled all the right buttons with Caleb 141 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: right now. 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: So Bo Nicks great late man, he can struggle. In fact, 143 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: last week I think was the first time in nine 144 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: games they scored in their opening drive, which is strange 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: because Peyton is one of the great play designers in 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the league. It's on script. Where are you with bow 147 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: right now? 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: Well, I thought that was a great game last week 149 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: that Jean Payton had, if I know you watched it, 150 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: but if you know, if you listen to Sean, he 151 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: was really perturbed by some of the national punits out 152 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: there saying that they're playing with the house money against 153 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: Kansas City, they don't have to be two wrecked. Well, 154 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: all he did was attack from that opening drive and 155 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: they scored, got the ball down. 156 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: They missed Troy. 157 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: Franklin one, but they took seven deep shots in that game. 158 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: They didn't connect on all of them, but they kept 159 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: the safeties honest back there and at the end when 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: they needed it the most. They got the ball down 161 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: the field of Troy Franklin in you know, in overtime, 162 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: you go win that thing like. 163 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: I like his approach. 164 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: Sean Payton is maniacal about red zone offense. They missed 165 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: a couple, but they also made a couple, and they 166 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: made the important one when they needed it most. So 167 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: I like bo Nicks. 168 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: I like the way. I like his athletic ability, I 169 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: like his toughness. 170 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: I think Sean loves him, and he's thrown to all 171 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: young Pat Bryants, the rookie. Troy Franklin's a second year player, 172 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: like a lot of young players that they're building this 173 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: thing around. They could have gone at the trade deadline 174 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: and found another receiver. There was guys out there, but 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: they're building it with these young guys, and he's building 176 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: the connection that he has with these guys. 177 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: I loved his judgment from the speeding tickets to the 178 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: legendary draft room, but I thought there was okay. I 179 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: like his spin move and then they followed up with 180 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: a throw to the end zone that I thought was 181 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: a big boy throw. Everybody's beating up, but if people 182 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: are very tribal, they're either all for him, he's getting 183 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: picked on or he's a bum. I'm kind of like, well, 184 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: he's a backup for a reason. What did you see 185 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: on film? 186 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 3: Atio? 187 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: I mean, look, he was a rough outing, there's no question. 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: I mean they blitzed him like crazy. There were some 189 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: breakdowns from pass protection with the right guard to the running. 190 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Back where he was under siege. But you know, when 191 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: it was twenty three sixteen. 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: And he had two minutes to go down the field, 193 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: he hit Harold Fanning over the middle. I mean it 194 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: was as good as any throw you're gonna see all year. 195 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: And it was it was cloudy in there too, but 196 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: he hit Fanning for twenty five. He hit Judy on 197 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: thirty ten for ten. He ran for five when there 198 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: was an opening there. He did take two shots at 199 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: the end zone. One hit I love Ardaine right in 200 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: the hands. It got pulled out. Yeah, Judy had a 201 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 4: I thought. You know what he said after the game 202 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: was important. He said, look, he goes, this is a 203 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: game of details. I need to be detailed with my guys. 204 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: Maybe the throw that was incomplete to Judy on a comeback, 205 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: you know, maybe he completes that this week with a 206 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: week of work and timing, because that's a typical route 207 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: against the cover three zoned the receivers coming back. 208 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: To the football and he was a little late with 209 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: the throw and that got defended. And you're right. I 210 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: mean he took another shot to the end zone. 211 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: I thought he could have hit Judy on the out, 212 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: could have gotten out of bounds, got a little closer 213 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: to the end zone, fresh set of downs. Maybe he 214 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: can make that a better decision this week with a 215 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: week of work. But the idea that he's supposed to 216 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: be great with no work, not a meaningful snap since August, 217 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: it's ludicrous. 218 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't care who it is. 219 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: Finally, you know, I've always said, if you're the last 220 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: player taken in the draft, I don't think all the 221 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: GMS passed on Brock pretty because they're all nitwithz there's limitations. 222 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: He was reckless in college. I love Collins football. I 223 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: remember him. He was a winning quarterback, but he was reckless. 224 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't have great size. He's a little more athletic 225 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: than people give him credit for. But there is no 226 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: question last week when he came in, it does look 227 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: like Kyle can use about fifteen more plays. They moved 228 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: a pocket a lot with him, and where where have 229 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you always landed? 230 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: With him? I love him. I mean, I love his 231 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: decision making. 232 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: I love his accuracy, I love his maxie, the ability 233 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: to extend plays. 234 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: He's not the biggest guy. He's you know, and so 235 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: there is. 236 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: A little bit of limitation there, especially with thrown from 237 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: the pocket. But I mean he's as tough to say 238 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: come And honestly, mac Jones had played really well in 239 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: his replacement, and the question all week, week after week 240 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: was well, is Brock. 241 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: Still your quarterback? 242 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: And he always stood by him and after watching him 243 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: against Arizona, he's their quarterback. 244 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: Like he didn't skip a beat. He played as well 245 00:10:59,480 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: as he's. 246 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Playing all year or anytime last year, like Edidt missed 247 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: many throws. It was really well designed. A lot of 248 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: the routes I just throw to Kittle right here on 249 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: a little you know, taking the deep. I mean it's 250 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: a great throw. It's a great route combination. Throw him 251 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: a lot of cheese and hit Kittle behind him. But 252 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: I thought he hit all the throws that were designed 253 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: to be made one on one with Kittle against the linebacker, 254 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: one on one with McCaffrey against Cody Simon, like he 255 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: hit the throws that he had to hit, and it 256 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: was on time. He was very sharp, and it was 257 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: because that's not it. It's not it. It's not a 258 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 4: great defense. But they are difficult because they do a 259 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: lot and they throw a lot of coverages at you 260 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: and a lot of blitzes. And I thought he handled 261 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: things really well. 262 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Brian Boldinger, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. 263 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: He's in the NFL film's offices. Do they provide good, 264 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: good craft services lunch there or is it just you 265 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: and film? 266 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: The cafeteria is unreal. I got emad down there. He's 267 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: my chef. Like the port today was on point. I 268 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: got I'm so happy right now. It was fantastic. 269 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: People always say what do you like about Fox and 270 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: I always say, Man, dat cafeteria is something else. 271 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, bad meal, I'm with you. 272 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: Great seeing your baldy. 273 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Tom? 274 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, j Mac. 275 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: We got pretty good chili con Carney here, but it 276 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't. 277 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: It's not quite as good as you got there. 278 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 6: I'll say, you know, I had a guy Tyler here 279 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 6: got me a donut today that was incredible. I mean 280 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 6: cafeteria here. 281 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: You're right, it's on point. 282 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 283 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 284 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 285 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 7: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 286 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 7: five to seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We 287 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 7: never have enough time to get to everything we want 288 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 7: to get to. 289 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 8: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called 290 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 8: over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in 291 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 8: our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, 292 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 8: because this guy is over promising things we never have 293 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 8: time for. Yeah, you blobber, Well you know what it's 294 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 8: called over promise. You should be good at it because 295 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 8: you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a 296 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 8: Covino and Rich after show, and we want you to 297 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 8: be a part of it. 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Remember you could see it 308 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 8: on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen over Promised with 309 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 8: Covino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 310 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 8: wherever you get your podcasts. 311 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no, turn on the news. 312 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 313 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 6: Well, it's time to talk about your bff. You're amigo 314 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers. Colin, I know you're waiting with baited breath. 315 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 6: What's going on with the wrist? Well, he does not 316 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 6: need surgery. According to Mike Tomlin, there is a fracture 317 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: in the wrist. However, in an amazing turn of events, 318 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 6: Tomlin hopes that Rogers is able to play this weekend 319 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 6: against the Bears despite the slight fracture in his wrist. 320 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: I don't know what a slight fractor is. It sounds like, 321 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 6: based on yesterday's reporting that Rodgers wants to tighten the 322 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: ranks and not reveal any information. The line is still three, 323 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 6: but we're starting to see some two and a half's 324 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 6: in the desert. Yeah, this you know, the Steelers. 325 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 5: Are funny team. 326 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: They go back and forth like overachieve, underachieve, overachieve, underachieved. 327 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: So they just played really well, got great defensive playmaking. 328 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: So now they have not been a consistent team. You 329 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of get a different team every week, and so 330 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: this week, I feel like now they're going to Chicago. 331 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Chicago is feeling itself and playing well. Everybody keeps doubting 332 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: the Bears and they just keep winning ugly. 333 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: So I can I say something on so Bears Viking 334 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 6: Bears lead the whole way, blow the game at the end. 335 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, if they don't get a sixty. 336 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 6: Yard kick return in the final minute, they probably lose 337 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: to the Vikings. Because remember Caleb Williams, I don't know 338 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: that Ben Johnson would have trusted him. 339 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: He didn't even. 340 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: Throw the ball on their to set up their game 341 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: winning drive to set up the field goal. 342 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 5: So I don't know if they trust Caleb that much. 343 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: So now you've got him against the Pittsburgh defense that 344 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 6: should have I think Heismith's back, right, you got what 345 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 6: Jalen Ramsey there like they got some dudes. 346 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 5: I took a nibble of Chicago. 347 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 6: But I'm feeling like this is probably a stay away 348 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 6: given Rogers, it sounds like they're gonna try to get 349 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 6: him to go. 350 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, what about if it's Mason Rudolph? Can the Bears 351 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: win that one? 352 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: Bears will win Mason Rudolph. I think Aaron makes it. 353 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Aaron's low mistake, high efficiency. Aaron gives them the shot. 354 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Aaron can still help marginally. 355 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's move on to Sneer Sanders. 356 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: The brown people are into this man. Yeah, the Browns 357 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: starting quarterback. I don't know. 358 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 6: I mean so his dad, Dion Sanders, is going through 359 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: it in Colorado. The Buffaloes are three and seven. And remember, 360 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: I know Shador's feeling to eat in the NFL. Dion's 361 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: starting to feel some heat too, And Dion was asked 362 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 6: about his team struggles. 363 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: Here we go. 364 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 9: If anybody is built for adversity, I am. If anybody 365 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 9: has built the change I am is if anybody's built 366 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 9: to overcome situations and child and trip relations, I am. 367 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 9: You got the right man, I promise you do, and 368 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 9: I'm going to prove that to you. I am. Just 369 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 9: give me an opportunity and give me a little more time, 370 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 9: and I'm going to prove that to you. 371 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: So Colin, this is how much has changed a year ago, 372 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: this time Colorado riding high. Chador is gonna be a 373 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 6: top pick. Dion's great. One year later, Chador is like 374 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 6: not highly thought of in Cleveland. 375 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: He was with the practice of those Hunter's done nothing. 376 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: Travis Hunter's done nothing. 377 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 6: Dion three and seven and feeling heat for the amount 378 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 6: of money he's made that university in the last couple 379 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 6: of years. I'm a little surprised at this. Are you 380 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 6: surprised he's feeling heat? No. 381 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I think he's made Colorado interesting recruitings better. I don't 382 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: know how relevant they are. I mean, the college football 383 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: has really become the SEC against the Big Ten and 384 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: add Notre Dame. 385 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 5: That's what the sport is right now. 386 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: It's two major conferences with most of the good teams 387 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: plus Notre Dame. 388 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: You know, I when when when Dion got hired. 389 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought he was going to be 390 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: schematically Kyle Whittingham at Utah, that's not what he is, 391 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: or Lincoln Riley. What he did is he added energy, focus, enthusiasm, 392 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: and juice. Colorado Football's fun, but they don't they don't 393 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: have a big budget. It's never been that capitalized. It's 394 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: not it is what it is. It's not you know, 395 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's if Colorado football, I'm dead serious, could 396 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: win seven games a year, I think you'd have to 397 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: take that to the bank. I've always said that about UCLA. 398 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: It's a basketball school. If you see a like, can 399 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: we eight games a year in football? Take it now. 400 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I said that years ago and it got flack. Yukon 401 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: right now with Jim Mora, the former Brewin coach is 402 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: better than UCLA football. 403 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: Yukon a basketball school. 404 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 6: So Colin, like again, I'm not going after Dion and 405 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: Shador here is there a whidth of the Ball brothers. 406 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 6: Remember how for like two years Lonzo Ball and company, 407 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 6: they were one of the biggest stories in sports. You 408 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: were talking about him almost every day. They were huge 409 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 6: national and then it quickly peters out right, do you 410 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: kind of feel like Dion and Shador they. 411 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: Had their moment in the sun And no, because I 412 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: didn't think they I didn't think there was any I mean, 413 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: there's both a lot of sizzle and not a ton 414 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: of steak. 415 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 5: I think that there's But the difference is Dion is not. 416 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Dion did add juice and Shdor was a 417 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: very interesting prospect. You know, I've thought about this. I 418 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: don't remember any quarterback out of college where the people 419 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I trusted all thought he was going late first middlesecond. 420 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: Smart people, and he tanked. 421 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: But then you started hearing about the bombed interview with 422 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, which was multiple reported, multiple source. 423 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: So I I. 424 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: Just I never thought Dion was going to take this 425 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: to a top five program. So I've kind of baked in. 426 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: It was always going to be more hyped than reality. 427 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: But when they're on television and they're playing somebody, I 428 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: still watch. Yeah, then I didn't before Dion, I didn't. 429 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: That's accurate. That's fair. 430 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 6: Final story, conn is Baker. Mayfield has had a career 431 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 6: resurrection in the NFL member with the Rams. He popped briefly, 432 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: flew in for that Thursday night game against the Raiders 433 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 6: and won it. 434 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 5: He ended up. 435 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 6: Starting four games in LA before moving on. Sean mcvagh 436 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: talked about that experience. 437 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 10: I just remember a guy that had a pretty impressive, 438 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 10: you know, just mental stammina over a small period of 439 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 10: time to absorb a lot of information and then you know, 440 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 10: it's one thing to absorb it. It's a totally different 441 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 10: thing to be able to bring it to life when 442 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 10: the enemy has to say. 443 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: And it was impressive. 444 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 10: But I think when you watch what he's done and 445 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 10: kind of who he is, I think it's probably more 446 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 10: on par for what we expect of Baker and kind 447 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 10: of the outlier, you know, when you look at the 448 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 10: totality of everything he's done. 449 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting game. The Rams are coming off 450 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: a very intense division rivalry game with Seattle that came 451 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: down to the last second, you know, a very physical 452 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: game on both sides, a lot of emotion. I would 453 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: expect the Rams to pull back. But Tampa Bay, as 454 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: you and I talked about off air today, Tampa's now 455 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: making their second long road trip cold weather, Buffalo now 456 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: cross country. It's a tough spot for Tampa. But it 457 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: does feel like the Saints and Atlanta are a mess. 458 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: Carolina is charging you were about a year early on Carolina. 459 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: They're a real team offensively. But I kind of think 460 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: Tampa will will be in this game. That Buffalo game, 461 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: if I watched every snap, Tampa was in that game 462 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: with ten minutes to go. They were very resilient, they 463 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: just couldn't make stops. I think Tampa will give the 464 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: RAM some pushback. 465 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: I would caution I have a feeling this may make 466 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: an appearance in headlines on Friday. And before you make 467 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 6: any wagers, just look at how Matthew Stafford has done 468 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: historically against one Todd Bowles and I'll leave it at 469 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 6: that for now. 470 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 5: It's called the Teas. By the way, comes pretty good. 471 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 5: Cheez Jmack with the news. 472 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The 473 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 474 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: Live in Chicago. It's the Herd. 475 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 476 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern a em Pacific. 477 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: So it's always an interesting time of the year. James 478 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: Franklin's getting that Virginia Tech job. He officially get it. 479 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: So did he officially get it? He officially got it, 480 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: So that was an easy one. He got fired. He 481 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: was looking for work, and you know the advantage for 482 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: James Franklin and his agent, he was the first big 483 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: name out there ready to grab a job. Lane Kiffin's 484 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: a weird spot because everybody's coming after him. 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 5: Better jobs than. 486 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Old Miss Florida certainly LSU, probably, But what the game 487 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: that gets played here, and it's been played my entire life, 488 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: is there's two or three major agents. 489 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: One of them is Jimmy Sexton. 490 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: And most of these top coaches like a Sark or 491 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen, most of them have like like a Jimmy Sexton, 492 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: And so Jimmy Sexton does the work for you. You can 493 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: deny that you've taken a call. So Elaine Kiffin can. 494 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: Say I haven't talked to anybody. 495 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: He hasn't. He's talked to Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy Sexton does 496 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: all the work behind the scenes. Same with Sart. So 497 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: if I was Lane kiff and I would stay at 498 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Old Miss or go at flu. Sart today got perturbed 499 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: with all the reporters talking about why he's eating go 500 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: I don't know why Stark would leave. 501 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 5: This is a great job. 502 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, I think NFL jobs 503 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: are better than college jobs. 504 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: But there was a couple of them, like Texas. 505 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: I would take Texas now over honestly, over the Jets 506 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: or Giants, those are messes. Over the Saints, over the Titans. 507 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: I would take Texas over those jobs. I would take 508 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State over those jobs. But start today. Earlier on 509 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: reports he could leave Texas. 510 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 11: People reporting or insinuating that there's a possibility I could 511 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 11: leave the University of Texas, and that is absolutely false 512 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 11: and untrue. I'm not going anywhere. So moving forward, when 513 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 11: some Joe Blow decides to put something on social media 514 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 11: out there, we all don't run with it like it's 515 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 11: the gospel. Can we all agree on that on this call. 516 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: And if you have a question about my. 517 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 11: Future with the University of Texas, ask me on one 518 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 11: of these calls, ask still Connie. He'll be more than 519 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 11: happy to take your call so that we can seck 520 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 11: the record street so we can focus on our football team, 521 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 11: which is really what we should be doing. 522 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't think. 523 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: And I also think the NIL has changed the landscape. 524 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: So you know everybody was talking about Lincoln Riley. Well 525 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: they just built three hundred million dollar facilities at USC. 526 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: They're paying twenty million a year for NIL and they're 527 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: paying Lincoln seventy five million. If they had to fire him, 528 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: well they have to pay another eighty to get another coach. 529 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Like these schools aren't don't have venture capital money, all right, 530 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: they maybe. 531 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: They'd have to go get it. 532 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: But I mean you're paying players now, Like the top 533 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: recruits make a million bucks. Quarterbacks make three or four. 534 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: So now I think Lane Kiffin. My feeling on Lane 535 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: is that Ole Miss has a ceiling. He can always 536 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: get quarterbacks, receivers. At Old Miss, offensive players will follow 537 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: the coach. Lane will always have good offensive players. Defensive 538 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: players and I've been told this by coaches usually go 539 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: to the big dog schools. They want to go to 540 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State, a Michigan, a Notre Dame, an LSU, a Georgia. 541 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily follow a coach. They want to go 542 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: to the big traditional powers. Offensive guys, you know, you 543 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: recruit them, You put them on the whiteboard. Tell a receiver, 544 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you twelve targets as a freshman and 545 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna make nine catches. I'm gonna drow up the 546 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: plays for you. Offensive guys will follow a coach. So 547 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: Lane's concern at Old Miss, I would guess is I'm 548 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: never gonna have a Georgia defense. I'm never gonna get 549 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: that kind of defense here. My offenses will carve up anybody. 550 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: My offense is when I was at Alabama. I was 551 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: carving up Knicks defenses at practice. But I'll never have 552 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: an elite defense. I'll always have to be kind of 553 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: one dimensional offense, driven to win. And I think Lane, 554 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: probably my gut feeling is, is considering NFL or Florida. 555 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he'd go to LSU. So Joel thinks 556 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Lane's already made up his mind. 557 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: I think they're out. 558 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 12: You know, there was this conversation like, well, maybe at 559 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 12: nine to three Texas, because one of those losses is 560 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 12: at Ohio State, maybe they could back their way into 561 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 12: the playoff. 562 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: Now that's the wrong one. 563 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Here is Joel Klatt talking about Lane Kevin he thinks 564 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna leave ole Miss. 565 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 12: If he wanted to stay, he would stay, and we 566 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 12: would have already known it. Look at all the other 567 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 12: coaches around the country that have said they're staying or 568 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 12: signed extensions, and ole Miss, I know, has told him 569 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 12: money is not a factor here. Whatever you get offered, 570 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 12: we will match it. So it's not that he's going 571 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 12: to make more somewhere else, which is starting to lead 572 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 12: me to believe. And again I will fully own I 573 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 12: have been all over the map on this and Lane, 574 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 12: but Lane is a unique cat. Now I don't know 575 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 12: if he can come back to Ole Miss. You can't 576 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 12: lead him on for this long and now there's going 577 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 12: to start to be animus, like why aren't you signing 578 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 12: an extension? 579 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: What's the problem? And I think he's going to Florida. 580 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 5: I think he can go back to Ole Miss. 581 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: Uh. The one of the kind of narratives that's out there. 582 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: And I hear this for a lot of coaches like 583 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin or Sark or or all these coaches as well. 584 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he can be a legend at Old Miss. 585 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: Well he's not from Mississippi. Being a legend is not. 586 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, all the young, aggressive, smart people I've ever 587 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: met in any business it could be education, tech, sports, casting, coaching, 588 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: none of them ever ever talk about you know, my 589 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: dream is to be a legend at blank. They want 590 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: to get paid, they want to be at a place they 591 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: can compete against the best. And if you're an Old Miss, 592 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: you're never going to get consistent recruiting classes like Georgia 593 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. I don't think Lane Kiffin wakes up thinking, Hey, 594 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: I want to be the greatest Old Miss coach of 595 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: all time. What's the value of that. That doesn't mean 596 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: you're a national champion. I think Lane wants the Hoist trophy. 597 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: I think Sark wants the Hoysta Trophy. That's why you 598 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: can hoist a trophy at Texas. I think it's very 599 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: difficult at ole Miss and people wow, he can be 600 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: he can be a legend in Oxford. 601 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: Eh Oh. 602 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't think young coaches care about legend. I think 603 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: Sean McVay is not looking to be a legend. He 604 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: wants to win another Super Bowl this year. In Matt 605 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: Stafford's last year or second to last year. That whenever 606 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: I hear that, oh, you could be you can be 607 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: a legend in Portland, Oregon, or Oxford, Mississippi or TCU, 608 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: I never hear anybody talk like that now. 609 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 5: I never hear that. 610 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I hear people want a place where their families happy 611 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: and they think they can win a national championship, and 612 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I think Ole Miss is very hard to do it there. 613 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: I think there are seven or eight college football programs 614 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: it is just simply easier to win a Natty, and 615 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: I'll write them down Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Texas, University 616 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: of Florida, LSU, although they're taking crazy pills now Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU. 617 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Michigan's that easy. I think Michigan is 618 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: a great academic institution, and it's Hardbaugh took a long 619 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: time to build a roster that could compete with Georgia. 620 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Michigan in that class. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU. 621 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people would put USC in that class. 622 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: They're somewhere between. 623 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 624 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 5: It's like, I'll give you an example. Oregon. 625 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Oregon has the money to be a national champion. They 626 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: can go buy players, but they're in a state with 627 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: no high school players. So you have to convince kids 628 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: to go to rainy Weather or you can just go 629 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: buy them. That's not as easy as Texas, which doesn't 630 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: have to convince kids. It turns kids down, so does Georgia. 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: It's always been an advantage Florida, Louisiana, Georgia to be 632 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: in a state where you don't have to convince because 633 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: they grow up wanting to be a Buckeye or a 634 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Longhorn or a Georgia Bulldog, or play for the Crimson 635 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Tide or be a Trojan. Most kids that grow up 636 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: in southern California want to play for USC. They just do. 637 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: Now Oregon pays them more. Oregon's cooler and sexier and 638 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: the facilities. But there are about five or six programs. 639 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: I guess probably Alabama is one of those, although in 640 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: the NIL, I'm not sure Bama is. 641 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure Bama is. 642 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I think in the NIL, when money becomes a factor, 643 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU, Notre Dame Bama, Alabama 644 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: does not have big inn il money. Notre Dame is 645 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: an academic power, and it's you know, let's be honest 646 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: about it. South Bend, Indiana. The most fun you can 647 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: have is the first plane leaving, So let's be honest 648 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, let's be honest about South Bend. 649 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman can sell, but it's you know, it's it's 650 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's a small town that it takes a 651 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: while to get out of there. So I think Notre 652 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: Dame Bama can win titles, but I don't think it's 653 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: as easy as it is at Georgia, Texas and Ohio State, Oklahoma. Again, 654 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: the state doesn't have a lot of five star recruits. 655 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 5: It's it used to twenty years ago. 656 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't as I think Oklahoma is in that USC, Oklahoma, 657 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Bama, you can win them, Oregon, but I think, 658 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's many schools that are 659 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: like built to win back to back Natties. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, 660 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: and Crazytown LSU probably that would be my top five. 661 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: And then it's USC, Oklahoma, Bama, Notre Dame, Penn State, Clemson. 662 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: You can win them, but there's there's some stuff now. 663 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Clemson could be in that list, but they 664 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: don't want to play the nil game. So okay, then 665 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: you've made conditions there and so sark leaving. When you 666 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: get those four or five jobs, those to me are 667 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: better than the bottom three NFL jobs. I didn't used 668 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: to think that, but the NFL now is so quarterback centric, 669 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: so quarterback reliant, and college football gives you one great 670 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: quarterback year, maybe one and a half. So it's just 671 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: and when you get them, you got to keep them healthy. 672 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: And like the Chargers, they're struggling to do that with 673 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, just to keep them on his feet. So 674 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: there is it's Let's say the NFL gives you two 675 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks a year. Go look at the NFL right now, 676 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: there's like nine teams desperate for a quarterback. This draft 677 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: has one surefire everybody likes him guy, And if Dante 678 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Moore stays at college, it's one. And if not Ty Simpson, 679 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: the guys I talk to do not think he's a 680 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: high top eight nine pick. 681 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 5: So there you go. All right. 682 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Kiffin, by the way, denying reports that Old has given 683 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: him an ultimatum. What they've done is we'd like an answer, 684 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, week of the egg Bowl, which is the 685 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: Mississippi State game. That's not an ultimatum They've They've they've said, hey, listen, 686 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: we want to answer pretty quick. Pretty quick is not 687 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: an ultimatum. You know, sometimes you got to put a 688 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: ring on it. I mean, there was a song written 689 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: about that. You gotta put a ring on it. Eventually, 690 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, you can push that down the. 691 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 5: Road for the next weekend. All right, j Mac, good 692 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 5: job is that? Everybody? Brian Baldinger, Joel Klatt bringing it. 693 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 5: You see them all