1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Sean Combs aka Ditty's Obama ecstasy habit. This as he 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: launches an other woman defense and we learn that Louis 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Vuitton bag stuff full of cocaine, ecstasy, horse trunk plan 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: be birth control was also stuffed full of viagra for Ditty. 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: Plus Cassie Ventura's mom turns states witness. 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: being with us. Straight out to the courthouse. 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Standing by Lauren Conlin, who has been in the courtroom 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: throughout the day. Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and star of 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Pop Crime TV. 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Lauren, thank you for being with us. What happened in 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: court today? 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: It's been an eventful day so far. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: We finished up the direct examination of Ditty's former assistant 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: James and the Cross and we learned a lot about Ditty, 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: a lot about what he had his assistance do. Something 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: that David James spoke about was advancing room locations and 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: this includes anything from a green room at the Ellen 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 4: Show to a hotel room. Now, what was interesting about 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: this hotel room advancing is you know, he said he 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: got snacks for Ditty and by the way, Nancy. He 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: testified that Ditty would request jello and apple sauce. Apparently 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: he put apple sauce on his cheeseburgers. But he would 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: also get things like baby oil, astroblide, and condoms. And 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: when he would pick up things like these, he would 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: not expense them through Bad Boy. 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: He would get cash as reimbursement. 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: And he also said that he would set out all 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: Ditty's toiletries, which as you mentioned, included sometimes. 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: Viagra or just for men. We also heard that something 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: that I found was very shocking. 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: David James was forced to take two you lie detector 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: tests when things went missing jewelry at one point, a 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: bracelet of cassis, and then we heard we actually saw 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: Diddy smile. At one point, David James described being at 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: a Diddy party and doing something called diddy bopping. 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: I don't really know what that was, but it made 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: Diddy laugh. 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: And at this party, David James described that he was off, 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: so he attended a New Year's Eve party. He stole 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: an ecstasy pill from Diddy. He was having fun. The 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: next day did he called him into his office because 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: apparently he took video of all his party. He saw 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 4: David James and said, hey, were you on drugs or 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: were you on ecstasy? And David James says, yes, I was, 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: and apparently did he said to him, well, I'm going 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: to keep this or I'm going to hold this just in. 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: Case I need to. 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: We also heard David James testify about an incident that he. 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: Had with the chef. 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: Chef that we're supposed to hear from, but David James 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: said that did he, you know, reprimanded him because David 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: James had an altercation with the chef and did he 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: said something to him like listen, if you touch a 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: woman again, you're getting fired. 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: But wait a minute, I've got another question about David James. 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: David James, the assistant described a horrible, horrible toxic workplace. 59 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: Explain. 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the way that David James describes leaving a 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: bad boy or being Ditty's personal assistant was after the 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: Shug Night Mel Diner incident, which I did not realize 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: that he was there for this. 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: He testified that he and a bodyguard, d Rock, they were. 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Instructed to go pick up cheeseburgers and they go pick 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: him up at Melt Diner. D Rock has an exchange 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: with Shug. He sees Shug and then d Rock sees 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: Shug pull out a gun and hand it to someone 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: else and they go back to Ditty's house. Did he 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: instructs David James to get in the car. 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: He says that did. 72 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: He had three guns across his lap and there's three 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: people in the car. 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: So he's putting things together in his head. 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: And essentially Shoog had already left the premises, so nothing happened. 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: But David James said after that he was done. He 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: said he went to HR he put in his notice 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: and they actually offered him another position at Sean John 79 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: or one of other Didy's other companies, and he said, no, thanks, 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: I'm done. 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: And you know, he went into a lot of this. 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 4: About how he was forced to work twenty four hours 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: at a time. 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: He even described one assistant having to go. 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 4: To the hospital after being overworked because she was so dehydrated. 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: So there is a lot of talk about this. 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: But I have to also note that he did acknowledge 88 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: that Diddy was a successful businessman, and when he was 89 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: leaving the courtroom he kind of gave him a head nod. 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: Wow, so you're telling me Davy James acknowledge Combs or 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: Combs nodded to James or both know. 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: James nodded to him. 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: I mean, did he like I said when he was 94 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: talking about diddy bopping? And there was another incident where 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: he brought up, did he wanting time's ketchup when they 96 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: went to London because the ketchup is different in London? 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 4: And did he got a kick out of that? They 98 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: really seemed to share these moments. There was another point 99 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: when David James kind of made a comment or Mark 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: Agnifolo said, Oh, part of your job was to get 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: Ditty to his appointments on time and have him be 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: you know, arriving in a timely fashion, and David James 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: said something like he wasn't always timely and did he 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: just laughed it up at a grand ole time over there? 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: Wait, are you telling me that Seawn Holmes was in 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: London and through a fit because he didn't have the 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: right kind of ketchup? 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: The ketchup in London wasn't right? 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean essentially part of his job advancing 110 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: these locations included making Ditty as comfortable as possible, which 111 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 4: was getting him the ketchup he. 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: Wanted, okay, moving on from a Davy James and I'll 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: revisit him in a moment. 114 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: What else happened on the stand? Who else did we say? Today? 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: So we saw Cassie's mom, Regina Ventora, and it was 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: very brief Nancy. 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Regina described. 118 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: The incident where Cassie sent her an email and she 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: cesed Capricorn Clark, which was one of Ditty's previous assistants, 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: and this email described threats that Cassie was getting from 121 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: Seawan Colmes and how Sean Polms was going to release 122 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: these sex tapes of her and how he was going 123 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: to hurt she and Kid Cutty. And Regina described that 124 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: she was terrified and she had no idea about these 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: sex tapes and she was like just very shocked, very terrified. 126 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: And then apparently bad Boy or Sean Plmes made this 127 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: demand of twenty thousand dollars to the Venturas, who you know, 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: she kind of made it clear we didn't have that 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: kind of money. She said they had to re mortgage 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: their house or something along those lines to get them 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: this money, and she went to the links to wire 132 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: it to bad Boy records. They sent her an email 133 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: with the wire instructions and then about thirty to forty 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: five days later it was returned to her. And we 135 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: also saw her confirm the pictures that she took of 136 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: Cassie that had been actually circulating because now they've been 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: released to the public. She confirmed she took those pictures 138 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: on a polaroid to document Cassie's breathing and it was 139 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: twenty eleven that she documented this, and she said that 140 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: was the first that she heard of this abuse. And 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: she also described an incident in twenty sixteen in la 142 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: when Sean Colmes stole Cassie's phone and she called the 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: police over this. This happened on around Cassie's thirtieth birthday, 144 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: and she actually described having an altercation with Holmes or 145 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: Diddy in front of Cassie's building, and she said she 146 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: lunged at him and she tried to hit him to 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: get the phone back. He eventually gave the phone back, 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: but said that he then took off in Cassie's Jaguar. 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, something got law to the sauce who 150 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: made the Laune at who. 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: Cassie's mom said that she lunged at Colmes trying to 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: get this phone trying to hit him. 153 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: I mean, she was very upset the way she describes. 154 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: And Cassie, by the way, was not present for this, 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: She was upstairs in her apartment. 156 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: So how originally, Lauren Colin, how did Cassie Venture's mother 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: discover that there was a sex video of her daughter? 158 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: Well, it was Cassie's email on the BlackBerry where she said, 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: you know, he's threatening to release these sex tapes, and 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: her mom said she was very confused by this, but 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: she was also very worried for her daughter as well 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 4: as the physical threats as well. 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: So you know, she kind of said, we had no choice. 164 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 4: We wanted to protect our daughters, so we sent this 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: money that we didn't really have. 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: And those are my words paraphrasing. 167 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, Well, isn't it true, Lauren Collin, that Cassie's 168 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: mom had to mortgage their home to come up with 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars. 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: To keep the sex tape from going online. 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 4: Yes, And there is a big discussion this morning before 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: the jury came in about whether or not this was relevant, 173 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: and clearly it was. 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Lauren Colin, I'm trying to get my head wrapped 175 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: around this, So Seawn Combs is going to extort twenty 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: thousand dollars from Cassie Ventura, his girlfriend's. 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: Mother, to keep Cassie's sex. 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: Tape from going viral, just out of saying it really 179 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: slowly to make sure I understand what you're saying. 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Is that right? 181 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like to all of us sitting there. 182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it came across. Asin. 183 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: Let me throw something at you really quickly. The other 184 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: day you stated, and a lot of people agreed with you, 185 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: that we're hearing a lot of bad stuff about Shawn Combs. 186 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: He's a vile person, blah blah blah. 187 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: But has the Kate say proven its case? Well, doesn't 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: this sound like extortion to you? 189 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: It does? 190 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: And little by little, Nancy, I do feel like we 191 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: are seeing more evidence tying some of the indictment charges 192 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: to what we're hearing. 193 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're absolutely right, Lauren. 194 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: What was the reaction the vibe between Cassie's mother and 195 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: Sean Combs? Did she just look daggers at him when 196 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: she walked in that courtroom? 197 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: She looked straight ahead. 198 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I was right on the end, and yeah, 199 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 4: she just walked straight into her seat. You know she 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: sat there and before you know, I mentioned that, did 201 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: he seem to be very relaxed with David James kind 202 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: of laughing. He was just sitting right in his chair. 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 4: I didn't really see him move at all. Very stoic 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: and like I said, she Regina was Ventura was very 205 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 4: brief and no cross examination by Mark Agnifola, which I 206 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: thought was a good strategy. 207 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Well, he probably didn't want to ask a question and 208 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: then get a bombshell answer from the victims. 209 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: Mother. Are you kidding me? 210 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't reach straight off that witness stand 211 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: and strangle Sean Combs right there in front of the jury. 212 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Lauren Collin joining us from the courthouse, I can circle 213 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: back to her just for a moment. 214 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Let's bring in the panel joining us, an all star 215 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: panel to make sense of what we know right now. 216 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: So much evidence pouring from the witness stand throughout the 217 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: day in the Manhattan courtroom, straight out to city Sumner. 218 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: But first, speaking of the assistant. 219 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: Listen to this, The government calls David James, Combs's former 220 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: personal assistant, to the stand. James says he started working 221 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 5: for Combs in the hopes of breaking into the fashion industry. 222 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 5: James ree calls an interviewer in HR, telling him this 223 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 5: is mister Combs's kingdom and we're all here to serve 224 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 5: in it. James mentions that Combs had a highly unusual 225 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: rider for green rooms, music venues, and hotel rooms, and 226 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: that staff constantly reminded him to stay in his lane 227 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: if he asked too many questions. 228 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: I wonder if that includes the not that Seawan Colmes 229 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: was checked into that Intercontinental hotel and the Cassie Ventura 230 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: beat down video occurred. Sidney Summer joining me Crime Stories 231 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: investigative reporter Sydney following up on what Lauren Conlin is reporting. 232 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: Tell me about David James's statement, who basically worked in 233 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: Fear just a godly hours, starting at four in the 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: morning and going till eleven o'clock at night. 235 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Where did this statement come from? 236 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: This is mister Combs's kingdom and we're all here to 237 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: serve in it. 238 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: What So, David James testified that that was actually in 239 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: his interview. So he had a meeting with someone from 240 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 6: HR a bad boy, and she turned around, pointed to 241 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 6: a photo of Seawn Holmes and said, this is Diddy's 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: kingdom and we are here to serve him, to serve 243 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 6: this kingdom. And yeah, you're completely right. He worked crazy hours. 244 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 6: He testified that he worked from eighty a m. Till 245 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 6: four a m. And then had to turn around and 246 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 6: put out a call sheet for the rest of Comb's 247 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 6: staff for the next day. So these were insane hours. 248 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 6: He talks about another assistant actually being put in the 249 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: hospital for dehydration. And Comb's just had ridiculous requests. I mean, 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 6: in that writer that David James mentioned he needed things 251 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: like apple sauce and ketch up jello Fiji water, but 252 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 6: he also wanted an arsenal of skincare products always available 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 6: to him, forty less skincare products. And that's not even 254 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 6: considering the Louis Vauton bag, his medicine bag that had 255 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 6: up to thirty different prescriptions in it, and that apparently 256 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 6: included things like normal things advil, tylanol all the way 257 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 6: up to percocet, ecstasy, viagra, weight loss pills, sperm count pills. 258 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 6: It was just I mean, he carried a pharmacy with him. 259 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Did you just say sperm count pills? 260 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 6: I did, Nancy, And I don't really know exactly what 261 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 6: that means or how it affects a man, but apparently 262 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 6: they were in there. 263 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: In addition to Sidney Summer joining US investigative reporter Crime Stories, 264 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: the former PR guru for Sean Combs, Rob Shooter, is 265 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: with US, star of Naughty but Nice podcast. 266 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: And author of a book, The Four Word Answers. 267 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: So, Rob Shooter, was that part of your duties too 268 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: to stuff Daddy's Louis Vuitton with Viagra, forty different skincare. 269 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Products and sperm count PILs. 270 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 7: It's shocking. When I worked with Diddy, he had a writer, 271 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: like my most celebrities, with things that he wanted, everything 272 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 7: from vitamin water to orange juice to apples. This is 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 7: what's so interesting about this to me. The NASI is 274 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 7: that most celebrities, when they visit a talk show, aig 275 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,479 Speaker 7: a big appearance, you send the rider to their producers. 276 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 7: So I would send did his rider out all the time. However, 277 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 7: what did he had was a separate rider that he 278 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 7: gave to his personal assistance so that the people at 279 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 7: the show wouldn't know all these extra things that he demanded. 280 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 7: So I'm shocked to know here that his personal assistant 281 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 7: got a separate rider now that we know what's in 282 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 7: that rider, it makes total sense. But I've never heard 283 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 7: of another celebrity having two two writers. 284 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: So one writer goes to the host, so Jimmy Fallons, 285 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: let's pretend staff, and then the other writer is a 286 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: secret rider. 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, that's what I found out today. I had 288 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 7: no idea there was a second rider. I would send 289 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 7: out Puffy's rider all the time to Ellen, to Jimmy 290 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 7: Fallon to all the shows that he would. 291 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Appear right me on there like that shooter. 292 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, the kind of normal things that they want in 293 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 7: the dressing room. So they want to know what sort 294 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 7: of water you want, you want coffee, do you want tea? 295 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 7: Do you want orange juice. It's just really kind of 296 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: simple things to make the experience a little bit nicer. 297 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 7: And they asked for this for every single celebrity, not 298 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 7: just big stars, but people on TV shows, comedians. So 299 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 7: they send in their rider. Pretty normal. The dressing rooms lovely. 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 7: You walk in, there's a coffee table, there's a couch, 301 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 7: and there's a little bar full of coffee and tea 302 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 7: or maybe if you want something stronger, that's there. Pretty normal. 303 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 7: What's different with Dido? We found out today. There was 304 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 7: a second ride that only his assistant had, and we 305 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 7: now know why because what was in that rider is 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 7: something Puffy would not want television show hosts or staff 307 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 7: or producer to know about. 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, so you Rob Shooter never had two 309 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: stuff Diddy's leave Aton bag with sperm count peels and Viagra, 310 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: Fiji water and forty different skin care potions, didn't. 311 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 7: I worked with Diddy and there were certainly odd requests. 312 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 7: There were stuff that he wanted, iron. 313 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: Like, what what odd request? 314 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 7: It was particular about the temperature of the room, and 315 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 7: I think this is a power play. But he would 316 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 7: often travel with a thermometer where he would take the temperature. 317 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: So I've got Sean Combs whining that the catch up 318 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: in London. 319 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: It's different, it's different. 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: And now you're telling me that he travels with a thermometer. 321 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 7: You heard me right, Lindsay, you heard me right. Very odd, 322 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 7: very strange. But it wasn't a sinister as some of 323 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 7: the things that will now find out he had on 324 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 7: this private rider. The only only He's inner Cirtle sore. 325 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 7: Only his assistant. 326 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Back to Sydney Son rejoining us. 327 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: In addition to Rob Sheeter, Sidney, I just want to 328 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: make sure I understand this. 329 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Now, you've got. 330 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura's mother on the stand under oath and fear 331 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: of perjury, which is a felony state that Sean Comes 332 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: demanded twenty thousand dollars from her in exchange to not 333 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: releasing her beloved daughter Cassie's sex. 334 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Tape online for it to go viral, and the mom 335 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: and dad have to go take out a home equity love. 336 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: Then I have twenty thousand dollars laid around to try 337 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: to save their daughter. 338 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Do I have that right, Sidney Sumner. 339 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: Nancy, Yeah, that's what we've heard on the stand today. 340 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: And Regina Ventura's testimony was very very quick. She wasn't 341 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 6: even cross examined, so that the defense just let her 342 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 6: testimony stand unchallenged. And I understand that these were two 343 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 6: separate emails. So Cassie reached out to her mom to say, 344 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: I'm agree that he's going to release two explicit sex 345 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 6: tapes of me, and I don't know what to do, 346 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 6: So she reached out to her mom to she felt 347 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 6: that this threat was very very real, and then Regina 348 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 6: Ventura received another communication from Calm separately that was demanding 349 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 6: he be reimbursed for how much money he invested in 350 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 6: Caffie because she was now off with some other man 351 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 6: and that man was alleged as kid cutting. So he 352 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 6: reached out to her demands that she pay him twenty 353 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: thousand dollars. And judging from what Cassie told her in 354 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 6: that email, she was very afraid that her daughter was 355 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 6: going to get hurt. So yes, they run out to 356 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: a bank, they put out a loan on their home 357 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 6: to get this twenty thousand dollars. They wire it to 358 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 6: a bad boy account and a few days later, with 359 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 6: no explanation, they get all of the money back. 360 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Crime Stores With Nancy Grace. 361 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: We are live at the Federal Court in Manhattan with 362 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: the latest in the trial of Sean Comb's aka Ditty. 363 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: Straight back out to Sydney Sumner. Now when we are 364 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: reviewing what Cassie Ventura's mother said on the stand, and 365 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: I want to show you right now photos that Cassie's mother, 366 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: Regina Ventura, took off her daughter. There's the fat lip photo. 367 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Keep going. I want to see all the. 368 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: Photos that the jury see that little mark at the 369 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: bottom States exhibit. You're seeing what the jury seeing. That 370 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: is the cut to the head where Cassie had to 371 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: go and say, ooh, see a plastic surgeon and get 372 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: it sewn up. There's a bruise to the head, bruising 373 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: to the leg. All of these photos came in corroborated 374 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: by Regina Ventura. More bruises on her back and oops. 375 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura was flying home for Christmas. She sent her 376 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: mom an email that Regina Ventura, the mom said, made 377 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: her physically sick. 378 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: The threats that have been made. 379 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: To me by Sean Puffy Combs or that he is 380 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: going to release two explicit tapes of me, said the email. 381 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: He also said he will be having someone hurt me 382 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: as Scott MUSCUTI physically. That's kid cutting. I was physically sick, 383 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: testifies mom Regina Ventura. I did not understand a lot 384 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 2: of it. 385 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: The sex tapes through me. 386 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: This is verbatim what she just said on the stand. 387 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: She testified. Shawn Comes demanded twenty thousand dollars to quote 388 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 2: recoup money he had spent on Cassie. She and her 389 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: husband take out a home equity loan. She says, under oath, verbatim, 390 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: we decided that's the only way we could get the money. 391 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: I was scared for my daughter's safety. 392 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: Regina Ventura used. 393 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: A Kodak digital cam to take photos of Cassie's bruised 394 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: back arm leg quote. She was bruised and I wanted 395 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: to memorialize it. 396 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: To Sidney Sumner, the jury. 397 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Has just seen the photos that mom Regina Ventura took 398 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: off Cassie. 399 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 400 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Nancy. They are seeing those photos of Cassie over 401 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 6: Christmas break twenty eleven at her parents' Connecticut home, covered 402 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 6: and bruises after an assault from Sean Diddy. 403 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: Colms straight out to a special guest joining us, Brett Brown, 404 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: director of SATH Surviving Assault Standing Strong, a nonprofit dedicated 405 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: to ending sex attacks and sex trafficking. 406 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Of women and girls. 407 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: You know what, I know why the defense did not 408 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: cross examine the mom, Regina Ventura. 409 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: And isn't it true, Brett. 410 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: Brown, that when the ladies that you minister too, that 411 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: you help take care of, when all else fails, they 412 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: call their mom. I've had so many murder victims the 413 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: last thing they said on this earth is mom, mother, Mama. 414 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: That's the last thing they say. 415 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: And here we see Cassie Ventura in such a state 416 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: that she emails her mom that Combs is going to 417 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: release sex tapes of her that will go viral. I 418 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: mean she must have been in the depths of despair, Brett. 419 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: It is desperation. 420 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 8: In moments of desperation, we go back to the person 421 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 8: or people that we know will believe us, will love 422 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 8: us no matter what's being said about us or what's 423 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 8: been done to us, the people who will accept us 424 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 8: as is and possibly help. And that's where she went. 425 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 8: She went to the place where she was felt the 426 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 8: safest and could let her guard down and say what happened. 427 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 8: You know, when you look at this whole situation, I 428 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 8: know why they didn't cross examine Regina Ventura because Combs 429 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 8: is a predator who collects possessions. That's what he does, 430 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 8: whether we're talking about Cassie or David James, and it 431 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 8: even extended to some of her friends that he had 432 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 8: to pay off. But the thing is, when you start 433 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 8: growing your ownership in terms of individuals, then eventually you 434 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 8: get worried that something's going to get lost or that 435 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 8: one of these people you own will make noise. And 436 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 8: so the threat there was to isolate Cassie from her mom, 437 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 8: potentially to say we're going to release this, and what 438 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 8: mom wouldn't pay money? So I think it was a 439 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 8: litmus test to see how desperate her mother would be 440 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 8: to protect Cassie, because when we are desperate, we'll do 441 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 8: all kinds of things. And then too, I think he 442 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 8: took the money back without explanation, because if she had 443 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 8: paid him to not release those videos, her mother wouldn't 444 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 8: be on the hook either. So this was another move, you. 445 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: Know, moorese let me follow up on what Brett Brown 446 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: just said. Whether he took the money or didn't take 447 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: the money, the extortion is complete under the law. The 448 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: extortion claim has been made out because the mother sent 449 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: the money. 450 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Whether he doesn't matter. Then she sent the money. 451 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 9: Extortion for what. This is a sex trafficking trial, Nancy. 452 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 9: You just said the words read the indictment that I 453 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 9: did last night, and the only evidence is paragraph for 454 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 9: which everybody keeps jumping on. No, that's not extortion under 455 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 9: these charges. You said the thing that's never been said 456 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 9: by a sex trafficking. 457 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: In case riddle. He said, that's Christmas. 458 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 9: He flew home at Christmas. Can you tell me a 459 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 9: sex trafficking case where the victim flew home at Christmas 460 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 9: fourteen years yes, trial and please crow? Okay, okay, So 461 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 9: this case is built on gossip, anger, and exaggeration. I 462 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 9: thought last week was the. 463 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Testimony beating photos. Yes, domestics. You think this is again? 464 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: I made that all up. 465 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 9: This is domestic This is domestic violence, not sex trafficking. 466 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 9: You're you're criminalizing partying in this. 467 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Case is trafficking. The endment also says sex trafficking. You 468 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: said this is. 469 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 9: Yes, says it, Nancy, it says it. 470 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: Come on you. 471 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: Telling me you've never had a sex trafficking case where 472 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: the women were not beaten into submission in order to 473 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: perform sexually. 474 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: No, the women. You need to go ba to law 475 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: school man. 476 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 6: Oh no, I don't. 477 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 9: Women don't get to fly home to their family and 478 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 9: spend Christmas and then go back with the perpetrator. That 479 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 9: doesn't generally happen in sex trafficking. And you can tell 480 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 9: me where people were convicted that that happened. Tell me 481 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 9: where people are flying on private jets and claiming to 482 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 9: be sex trafficked. I pointed it out last week, and 483 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 9: I'll point it out again. When I did the story 484 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 9: that you did of the young lady found in the 485 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 9: closet of a sex offender naked. That's more in line 486 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 9: with sexual based defenses. This is a horrible thing that 487 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 9: happened to this lady. But these people that are testifying 488 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 9: are angry, they're exaggerating. Listen to Don Richards's testimony, they're 489 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 9: making it up. Cassie already said Ditty's an opioid addict. 490 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 9: She was also, what does Don Richards say? I saw 491 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 9: a dude, saw Diddy do every drug but opioids. Give 492 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 9: me a break here. 493 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: We have just received an urgent missive from the office 494 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: of veteran defense attorney. 495 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: Mark Gerrigoes, no doubt about it. He's a great lawyer. 496 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: His daughter, Tinny Garrigos, is one of the lead defense 497 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: attorneys for Sean Combs. 498 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: And they want us to clarify. 499 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: A statement said yesterday that people were paying aid to 500 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: wear free puffy T shirts twenty dollars an hour. Wait, 501 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: they're saying it's fault that comes as public relations. People 502 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: paid anyone to wear the T shirts? 503 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, who is paying them? Listen, why do you why 504 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: do you why do you feel that way? 505 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: So if these are all paid protesters. You can get 506 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: twenty dollars an hour if you wear a T shirt. 507 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 10: She just got recruited, right if you said no, it 508 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 10: wasn't worth twenty. 509 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: No, but like he told me that it's for a 510 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 3: bitty hooid. 511 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: So oh, I'm not really sure what that is. 512 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just tried to get twenty dollars to wear 513 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: a free funcky shirt. 514 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: Stop. 515 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: I knew I could tell because the later right this, 516 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: she just kept convincing me to wear to go wear 517 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: a shirt, and I'm like. 518 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 11: I'm gonna be that's so, that's so just twenty dollars. 519 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 9: And if you guys wear you need twenty dollars, all 520 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 9: you have to do is wear a free Pumps shirt. 521 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: And you said, yeah, so did they see how many hours? 522 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: And she told me that I'd be like sixteen hours 523 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: yesterday towards standing. 524 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 9: Up on her. 525 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, so Rob Shooter PR Guru. 526 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: They're concerned that it's been stated that comes as PR 527 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: team paid people to wear the T shirt. 528 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: I would think that the missive would say he didn't 529 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: do this, He's not guilty. Why are you saying this? 530 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: But instead it's like it's completely false. 531 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: Mister Comes public relations people paid anyone to wear those 532 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: T shirts. 533 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Do you see the problem there, Shooter. 534 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's a really really complicated, silly 535 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 7: thing for them to do here. It tells us that 536 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 7: of all the stuff we've heard, all the horror stories, 537 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 7: all the testimony, all the facts, this is what they 538 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 7: want to focus on. Whether or not a PR team 539 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 7: paid some body to wear a T shirt, which is 540 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 7: not that unusual in the music business, maybe in the 541 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 7: criminal justice system, but this is their priority. And I 542 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 7: have to ask, why, why is this of all the 543 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 7: things we've heard, why is this the most. 544 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Important crime stories? 545 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: With Nancy Grace, I think we heard yesterday straight out 546 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: to Scott Johnson, forensic psychologist thirty two years specializing in 547 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: addressing sex predators, author of Physical Abusers and Sex Offenders 548 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Forensic Considerations. Scott question, I would think that denying the 549 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: claims of sex trafficking would be paramount. Instead, it's about 550 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: a midst of about a T shirt. But another thing 551 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: we learned is that Sean Combs would set throngs of 552 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: people at his public appearances and apparently is unhappy the 553 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: lack of attendees and supporters outside the courthouse I think 554 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: he was expecting something along the lines of a Johnny 555 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 2: Depp crowd or possibly Luigimigioni crowd of worshippers from our 556 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: friends at Fox five NDC and Whas eleven. What does 557 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: that tell you as a forensics psychologist. 558 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 12: Well, he is very much appearing like a sexual, sadist 559 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 12: and violent man, obviously, but he's a narcissist and he 560 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 12: needs the distraction, He needs the little things, the other 561 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 12: people to come and say, oh, he wouldn't do this, 562 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 12: we love him. Well, that's fine. You can love a rapist, 563 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 12: you can love someone who extorts, even if they're famous. 564 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 12: But in his mindset, he's a narcissistic number one. I'm 565 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 12: the most important person, as you've already referenced, I am 566 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 12: God if you will, and that makes him even more 567 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 12: dangerous because he just doesn't care. 568 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: We are also learning a lot about the quote other 569 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: woman defense that is emerging, and it's all about a 570 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: woman named Gina. But for a Sydney Sumner, I have 571 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: to ask about Sean colmbs. One of the favorite pills 572 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: he would carry in his Louis Vuitton stuff with Viagra 573 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: and horse traink and plan Be birth control pills. 574 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: Is Obama ecstasy? 575 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: And I in no way am suggesting either former President 576 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: Obama or his beautiful wife Michelle used ecstasy. 577 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: What is Obama ecstasy? 578 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 6: So David James testified that there were various pills, but 579 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 6: one was in the form of a former president's face. 580 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 6: The prosecutor had to ask him which former president and 581 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 6: he responded Obama. So James claims that Colin was carried 582 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 6: around ecstasy pills in the shape of Obama's face. Why 583 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 6: I could not tell you? 584 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: Okay, shooter, I'm calling in the expert a Louis Vuitton bag. 585 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I can't get away from this stuff. 586 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: With Plan B, birth control, horse train, ecstasy, cocaine, viagra, 587 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: needed a lot of viagra, sperm count pills and Obama ecstasy. 588 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 7: What When I heard that, my head exploded and I 589 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 7: thought about it. And having worked with perf I know 590 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 7: that he even though he's a big star, he also 591 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 7: is a big fan. There's people that get on his 592 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 7: radar that he becomes obsessed with. When I was working 593 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 7: with him, it was Prince Harry and Prince William. After 594 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 7: I left, his sounds like he moved on to President Obama. 595 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 7: But he has these obsessions with people. People he he 596 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 7: wants to be like people, He respects, people he fears, 597 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 7: and so I'm not surprised here that he didn't outgrow this. 598 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 7: His crush, his man crush changed from the princess to 599 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 7: a president, but nevertheless he has people that he gets 600 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 7: very very obsessed with. 601 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: Personal assistant that describes breaking down in tears working for 602 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: Shawn Combs to an angry mother, the mother of alleged 603 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: victim Cassie Ventira. 604 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: This day has been explosive in a. 605 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: Federal courthouse in Manhattan where Sean Combs being tried on 606 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: a multi count federal indictment including extortion and sex trafficking. 607 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: We also heard proof of what was gossiped about rumored 608 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: months ago, a forced medical procedure on a female victim. 609 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 10: Listen the Gina, both Cassie and best friend Carrie Morgan 610 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 10: referre too is fashion and travel blogger Virginia, who in 611 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 10: Gina says her relationship with Diddy began on Valentine's Day 612 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 10: twenty fourteen after a chance meeting in Miami, and she 613 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 10: continued to see Combs for about five years, deeply in 614 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 10: love with him, despite his continued relationship with Cassie after 615 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 10: their breakup. In twenty nineteen, Gina gave an emotional interview 616 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 10: detailing physical abuse from Combs in two instances where he 617 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 10: pressured her into getting an abortion. 618 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 11: He was like, you're gonna get an abortion, right, and 619 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 11: then I was like, I don't know. Uh, I don't 620 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 11: know yet, and then he offered me fifty thousand to 621 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 11: get rid. 622 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: Of it from our friends at online, with Tasha Kay 623 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: joining me. Veteran detective Chris McDonough. He is the director 624 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: of the Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective, former vice detective, 625 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: and you can see him now as the star of 626 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: the Interview Room on YouTube. Chris, thank you for being 627 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: with us. 628 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, so very. 629 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: Often when you start a felony investigation, like you may 630 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 2: start a homicide investigation, right, but then it's a many 631 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 2: headed hydra. You start and you slay the first head, 632 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: and then suddenly another head, for instance, extortion, and then 633 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: another head of the beast forcing someone to get an abortion, 634 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: and then another and another and another and another. Are 635 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: you surprised that one person is allegedly responsible for so 636 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: many evil and despicable acts? 637 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 13: Not at all, Nancy. I mean, we're looking at a 638 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 13: situation where this is a one man recocase, and of 639 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 13: course it always comes back to that power domination and 640 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 13: control over any in his environment. And if we look 641 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 13: at this writer concept right that they should just actually 642 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 13: call it a riser concept because everything in that bag 643 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 13: pointed towards his power control over any sexual activity around him, 644 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 13: and so it's total emotional manipulation to everybody that comes 645 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 13: into a circle. 646 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: We also learn part of the psychopathy behind what Shawn 647 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: Combs allegedly would do. Now this is critical to the 648 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: trial strategy. And even though Greg Morris and I are 649 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: sporing partners, I think he's going to agree with this. 650 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: That hotel beat. 651 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: Down video from the Intercontinental is a single most powerful 652 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: evidence so far. It corroborates everything Cassi Ventior with saying, 653 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: so somehow this has to be defeated. Mark Garrigos told 654 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: me point blank that in this video Cassie is actually 655 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 2: the progress her and she wasn't leaving a freak off, 656 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: She wasn't trying to get away from a freak off. 657 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: She was angry. 658 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: Because Combs had gotten a text from another woman. Is 659 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 2: that quote other. 660 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: Woman, Gina? 661 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: I want you to hear part of Sean Combe's psychopathy. 662 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 11: Listen, he would always compare me to Cassie and tell 663 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 11: me that I'm the bad one and she's a good one. 664 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: And he was with both of you guys at the 665 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, that's where my friends at unwine with Tasha. 666 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: Kay, did you hear the trial strategy there, Greg Morris 667 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 2: pitying Gina the so called other woman, against Cassie Ventura. 668 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: And this is what I think they're doing. And just 669 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: don't argue with me. Just tell me if you think 670 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: this makes sense. They got to defeat that Intercontinental Hotel 671 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: beat down of Cassie. They've got to for any hope 672 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: of women, Okay, And the way they are trying to 673 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: do it, I think is they're going to claim that 674 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: cass Evan Tira started the whole thing because she was 675 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: angry about a text and she was jealous about Gina, 676 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: and therefore what you think you're seeing is not what 677 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: you're seeing. They're going to try to defeat that video. 678 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: That's what this is all about. 679 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 9: If that's their defense and how they're going to deal 680 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 9: with that, it's not to me the right way to 681 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 9: deal with it. 682 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: It's simply which they've. 683 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 9: Talked about a little bit and opening that video. You're right, 684 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 9: I definitely agree with you. Is the strongest piece of 685 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 9: you know, very visceral evidence that the jury's seeing real 686 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 9: conduct and vicious conduct by Sean Combs. This is just 687 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 9: a simple thing of this is their evidence. This is 688 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 9: a domestic battery. This should be in state court. This 689 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 9: video isolated, doesn't support all the other testimony you heard 690 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 9: as far as you know, controlling her, so she stays 691 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 9: in the free I don't know if you tell the 692 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 9: jury somehow Cassie is somehow responsible for anything in this video, 693 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 9: you might as well just pack up because you've lost them. 694 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 9: They're not going to listen to you. There's no credibility there. 695 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 2: But they're trying their best to somehow spin that Intercontinental 696 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 2: Hotel video. And Attorney Mark Agnefello keeps hammering infidelity as 697 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: a cause of jealousy on the part of Cassie Ventura. 698 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: Listen. 699 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 14: Attorney Mark Agnifilo returns to infidelity issues on Carry Morgan's cross. 700 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 14: Morgan says Combs was jealous of Michael B. Jordan, but 701 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 14: says Cassie only flirted with Jordan because Combs continue to 702 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 14: see a woman named Gina he met in twenty fourteen. 703 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 14: Morgan says Cassie viewed Gina as a problem who just 704 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 14: wouldn't go away. Each time Cassie asked Combs to stop 705 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 14: seeing her, Cassie would catch them together again. Cassie testified 706 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 14: that a twenty eighteen photo of Comb's with Gina is 707 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 14: what led her to finally break up with the mogul. 708 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: We are live with the latest from the Federal courthouse 709 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: in Manhattan in the case of show On Comes versus 710 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 2: the US Government rob shooter. We heard on the witness 711 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: stand testimony that in one beating and this came from 712 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: Carrie Morgan, Ventiro's former friend, Cassie fell on a brick 713 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 2: of some sort and passed out. Was actually passed out, 714 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 2: got knocked out cold. Right, that's serious. That is a 715 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 2: concussion when you actually are passed out. But instead focusing 716 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: on that, they're angry that there are not Johnny Depp 717 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: or luigiman Gioni crowds outside the courthouse. 718 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: Is that a tiny bit misplaced? 719 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 7: Oh, it's absolutely foolish, it's really foolish behavior. But he 720 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 7: also talks to the ego of the gentleman that he's 721 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 7: paying them Puffy has a very, very fragile ego, and 722 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 7: that will really hurt his feelings. Boohoo. He'll be really 723 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 7: upset about these reports, particularly if these reports are true. 724 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 7: A couple of days ago on your show, Nancy, you 725 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 7: talked about how his his private parts were allegedly very small. 726 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 7: That will hurt did he crowd sizes will hurt. 727 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: Let's be clear the size Robert Tootsy role. 728 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 7: He is obsessed with size. He is obsessed with being 729 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 7: the biggest star in the world, having the biggest crowds 730 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 7: in the world, having the most fans in the world. 731 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 7: And none of that is true. 732 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 2: And let's be clear once again, for my sporing partner, 733 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: Mark Gear Agoes, Sean Holmes's PR team is not paying 734 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: people to wear those T shirts to say free perfey, 735 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: but somebody is. 736 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,