1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Who Do Who. Special announcement alert, I repeat special announcement alert. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: If you live in the city of San Francisco, California, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: we are doing a big, jam packed Stradio Lab live 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: show on Friday, January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club as 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: part of SF's Sketch Fest. We cannot wait to see 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: you guys. Tickets are available in our Instagram bios and 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: on linktreed dot com, slash Stradio Lab. That's l I 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: n K t r ee dot com slash Stradio Lab. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Tell your friends, spread the word. This is one of 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: the biggest shows we've ever done. It's our first time 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: doing Sketch Fest. We cannot wait to see you. We 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: can't wait to be in San Francisco in January and 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: escape the frigid New York cold and also I guess 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the very warm Los Angeles weather for Sam and we 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: can't wait to see you January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club, 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: part of SF Sketch Fest. See you there and enjoy 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: the show. 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. What is up everyone around the world 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: and welcome to Stradia Lab. We have been teasing starting 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: this podcast for over fifteen minutes and now guess what 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: we are giving that sweet release of actually starting the podcast. George, 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: how are you? 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: The technology required to record what we're doing now was 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: invented pretty much two days ago. There are two of 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: us in Times Square. There is one person at home 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles while fires are raging around him, and 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: there is another person at home in Brooklyn while Barista's 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: are raging around him. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Which and so we have somehow managed to come together, 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: despite all the odds and despite the world crumbling, to 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: record a podcast. And it's actually our first recording of 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: the year, which is kind of crazy. 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: It is. It's our first recording of the year. So 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I just want to say, happy new year. So far 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: it is not a great one, but there is still hope. 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say we did start off on a 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: weird note. 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you? Yeah, totally, I'm like, so far, 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: there's way I do want to say. So far, there 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: has been not a single good thing that has happened 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: this year. 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: I've been getting amazing sleep. 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Good for you. 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: So that's one thing, George, say something positive about your 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: year so far. 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Okay, See that's the thing. What I was gonna say 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: is actually a huge negative. I had an experience that 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: was so shocking, and I'm actually gonna say it now, 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: and then later when we bring in our guests, maybe 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: we can discuss it a little bit more. I was 51 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: passing by the Harry Potter store in New York City 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: and I said, wouldn't it be funny to go in, 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: find something stupid take a photo of it. 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: Honey, I'm laughing. 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: You got a viral meme right there, You know what 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: I mean? I was, I had, I had a little 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: time to kill. I said, I'm gonna find a hufflepuff merch. 58 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna see some you know, out 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: of towner's shopping for ginger beer. Wait, no, ginger beer 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: is the one that exists. What is the other? One 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: called butter beer? Butter beer? And I said, you know, 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: this will be funny. This will be just sort of 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: like a funny thing that I do. I went in, 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm about to say something shocking. Within forty five seconds, 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the nostalgia got me to such an extent that I 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: was literally like, put the sorting hat on me. I'm 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: ready to enter Hogwhites. I was shocked as someone who 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: a like obviously, I am marching against Jake Carrowlling daily. 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: I would say I do a women's march by myself 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: against Jake Carrolling every morning when I wake up. I 71 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: don't have nostalgia for Harry Potter. I read the books 72 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: when I was a kid have not had any desire 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: to revisit them. I also hate all toxic nostalgic culture. 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I hate BuzzFeed. Nineties kids will remember this. I don't get, 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, emotional when I think of Nick at night, 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and yet I'm telling you, within seconds of walking in, 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I was ready to buy a head to toe gryffindor 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: merch And I want to know what you read on 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that is. 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I obviously relate. I think how I 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: treat Harry Potter is I actually just don't think about 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: it as hard as I can, because I know that 83 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: if I do, I will enjoy it. If I watch 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: a film, I'll be like, well, might as well watch 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: all of them like they were on sort of in 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: the background of my holidays, and I was like I 87 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: would walk into the room and see it and be like, 88 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is actually more fun than I remember. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, no, don't get pulled in. 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: Don't get pulled in tough, and I even like, I 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: just think, you know, my answer is unfortunately always the 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: government stepping in. But I think it should become a 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: public service. It should just as long as she's not attached, 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: we can still have it. 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: No, you're we need. 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: We need, George. What I want to say is obviously ironic, 97 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: but run with me, George. We need a Minister of 98 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: magic in our government, and they need to be in 99 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: charge of the Harry Potter franchise. 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: No, actually, I would say the minute magic has to 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: be in charge specifically of separating the art from the artist, 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: in the way that we separate church and state. You know, 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: that's like the government. It's the government's responsibility to separate 104 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: church and state. I know that's not exactly it, but 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: shut up. It's the government's responsibility to separate church and state. 106 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Every time church and state are suspected of intermingling, someone 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: is you know, it goes up to the Supreme Court. 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: That needs to happen. As soon as someone creates art, 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: it needs to be separated from them, and the authorship 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: needs to be independent of the author. 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: I do think if your art makes one billion dollars. 112 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: It's like it's not yours anymore, Like it's not yours. 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: At all, right, exactly like it is now. 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know it's what public domain. 115 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who create who'd wrote jingle bells? No one, 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: probably someone who doesn't have great politics. But you better 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: believe I'm going to be shaking my booty to that 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: every year. 119 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: I could not agree more. 120 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm obsessed with us silencing to trans people. 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: While talking about Jake Carroll, I have. 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: To say, it's the funny things we've ever done, and 123 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: I think you kicking it. 124 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: Off outing me is crazy. Yeah, like I'm literally like 125 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: stealth icon honeyblutes on. That's crazy, that's crazy, Okay by 126 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: coming out, let's. 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: Wow, you're acting. I'm also not magic. 128 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, of course you're. That's interestinctionalities that you're both trans 129 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and magic. 130 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, and actually, hey stop, it's like you 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: already made a burista joke. Have you ever been to 132 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: a coffee shop they're selling trans or magic shirts aerial italics. 133 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: It's right there. 134 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 6: Well, I'm not magic like that. I'm magic like making 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 6: ship move around and like fighting. 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: You're not magic. No, I'm not you're not queer joy. 137 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 6: Famously, if you ever see me spouting that I'm releasing 138 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 6: my trans joy, it makes me that I'm It means 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 6: that I'm going to kill myself. Yeah, trans boy joy, 140 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 6: I blink twice. Is I'm radiating trans joy? 141 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: If you see Spike radiating trans joy called the poll? Yeah? Okay, 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: So please welcome Honey Pluton and Spike Ironbinder. 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: Hi, so you. 144 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Kind of yeah? So what's up? I mean, what do 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: you think of my story? 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: You're Slytherin. 147 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm literally being Slytherin. 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, being Slytherin. 149 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: I've never read the book. 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Are you afraid? Are you afraid you'll fall? 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I will say, Spike, you're giving Slytherin with your current look. 152 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 153 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: I Honey doesn't like it. 154 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: So I doesn't read the books, Spike? Have you read 155 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the books? 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: I read the books. 157 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 6: I waited in line to get jk Rowling's autograph when 158 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 6: I was a child. Wow, at a book release in La, 159 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 6: where I'm from, and I'm just outing myself and always 160 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 6: from La. 161 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: Loved Harry Potter as a child. Met jk Rowling zero. 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: She complimented my hair, She complimented my. 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 6: Hair in a way that when I talked to my 164 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 6: mom about possibly cutting it off. To this day, she 165 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: cites jk Rowling compliment like, I can't get away from 166 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: this transphobic woman. 167 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: Wow, it's like in my DNA. 168 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have you haven't cut your 169 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: hair because of JK Rowling. 170 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 6: Well, I'm I'm waiting until it gets long enough to 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 6: fashion it into like a flail, like a medieval weapon, 172 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 6: so I can. 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: Well, let's keep talking, like I can't say that on air. 174 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you should make it into a little 175 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: like braid tie that you wear with. That's an idea, 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: buttoned up, So. 177 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: Don't attach like a medieval weapon to it. 178 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 5: And Okay, it's almost transphobic that you told Spike to 179 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: make his hair into a bolo tie. 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 181 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: So we're at up to two. 182 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 6: We're at two instances three if you want to count 183 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 6: shutting us both out as one. 184 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: Individual, course, yeah, because you can't. Lumping us in would 185 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: be the fourth incident. 186 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, it would be like you're absolutely right, So 187 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: lumping you together. 188 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: As silencing us as one, as. 189 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: One, as though you both have the same politics, the 190 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: same opinions. 191 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just two guys, Why would. 192 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: You say that your politics differ the most? 193 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? What where would you self for the most? 194 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: I think I'm a little bit more libertarian than Spike. 195 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Really okay, and roll all the way off? Does that 196 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: make me? 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna let you speak for yourself. 198 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: But but you're like, you're communist. Spike is communist and 199 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Honey is sort of uh. 200 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: You want to buy some land and like buy a 201 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: gun and live. 202 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 6: Like, yes, I was gonna say, I'm I'm socialist communists, 203 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 6: but with gun. 204 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: You are with gun, right, So maybe gun is where 205 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you overlap. 206 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, We're we're both in the in the Venn diagram. 207 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: Guns is where we're sort of like carrying together. 208 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Got it? Got it? 209 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: Okay, communists, I am more communist anarchists. 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: So we do both, I'm seeing. 211 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm like, why would you say you're 212 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: a libertarian. 213 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: Because it rolls off the tongue. You know, it's an. 214 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: Easier at is anarchist to be doing. 215 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the question. How do you feel about, like 216 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: a full blown adult, tenured professor being like, I'm an 217 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: anarchist on the browser history and will be you know 218 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: what I mean? 219 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: No, totally. This is such a smart point. 220 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, no, you're like the king. 221 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: No, not you, the professor of the darkness. 222 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I established are not an anarchist. 223 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: You're a gun toting. 224 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: Hey we can I'm I'm yes, don't worry about okay. 225 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: So but you know what I mean, I think that's 226 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: okay to do, to be honest, because ideologies are actions, 227 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: for sure, but anarchy is also something to be taught 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: and understood, and so if you're part of a lineage 229 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 5: of explaining that process to other people, then maybe you 230 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: will have your pupils in cite the revolution. 231 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: It's like, don't It's like how I can say I'm 232 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: anti capitalist and be like, but I really want a 233 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: nice watch. 234 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Totally, That's exactly what it's like. Yeah. I do think 235 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: sometimes people myself included, get very frustrated at the at 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: that distinction that like, there is a there is a 237 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: a type of person the public imagination that is a 238 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: practicing anarchist, and then there is someone who is like 239 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: in the theoretical tradition of anarchy and is reading books 240 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: and teach and doing workshops. 241 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: I think it's annoying when people assimilate for sure. 242 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 6: But I think they're the same person because people people 243 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 6: assume that anarchy is like we're burning yes, yes, hashtag a. 244 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Little doing the A on a building, Like yeah, the masks, 245 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: why are you not Banksy? 246 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Maybe he could be banks I know, actually. 247 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: He could be camera seriously. 248 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, I'm really bad at arts. So it's really 249 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: it's like very I never. 250 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: Found out who banks is. 251 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: It's Spike. Yeah. 252 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: My ideas are like, it's like a girl and she's 253 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 6: and she's in black and white and she's holding a 254 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 6: red balloon and there's like a guy in a gas 255 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 6: mask pruning a gun in her. 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: That you Spike, what's your next piece? 257 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: Mm hmm okay, so get this. It's like a rat. 258 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 6: He's in a suit, he's got a briefcase, and he's 259 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 6: going into the White House. 260 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Wow, you are a g sh Just call me if 261 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: we can find a way to disseminate that imagery. The 262 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration is crumble. 263 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: That cheeto will be straight. 264 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: I love Banksy. Fever was actually so funny because it 265 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is crazy. He did this in 266 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: like a park, like anyone's allowed to look at this, 267 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: and the hype around that when we're zoomed out a bit, 268 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: I was like, what was wrong with all of us? 269 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: Why was that like so enthralling? 270 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Totally? I mean it goes back to me. Well, first 271 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: of all, of course, it goes back to Harry is 272 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: very he is very heap. Wait what house would he in? Banks? 273 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Raven claw? 274 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: What Harr's house? 275 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: He's a raven claw. 276 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Banks's a raven claw. That is absolutely correct. Okay, 277 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: here's a question that I struggle with. We have to 278 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: know this is not Harry Potter. This is not Harry Potter. 279 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: This is a question I struggle with. Think of like 280 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: super cliche mass market art. Okay, think of like like 281 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Live Left Love or like no No, like like like 282 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Campbell Soup, Yeah, like warholl like Warhol pop art, or. 283 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: Like the Balloon Dog. 284 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Literally what is I'm like, completely blinking, who's the guy 285 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: that did like, you know, the art pop cover? 286 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh Coons? 287 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh, Jeff Coons, Jeff Coons, thank you? 288 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: Isn't that the Balloon Dogs? 289 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yes, sorry again silence, you know Jeff Coon's 290 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: Banksy Cause Okay, I think all these things like if 291 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: you're in the art world, obviously you're like this is 292 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: their complete hacks. Right, So here's the question. The question becomes, 293 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: are people like that negative forces on the world because 294 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: they are such terrible artists and because that's the only 295 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: art some people see, or are they positive force in 296 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: the world because they're an entry point for people to 297 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: discover better art. It's like you discover Andy Warhol and 298 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: the Marylands, and then through that maybe you see, oh 299 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: there's an Andy Warhol retrospective. At moment, I'm gonna go, 300 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna see some better art. 301 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: Nest thing. You know, you're like, I love piss Christ. 302 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Literally, yes, I think. 303 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 5: Okay, my dad is a pop art addict. Okay, he 304 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: can't get enough of the stuff. He is whatsapping me 305 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: chronically pictures I'm assuming he's pulling from Pinterest that are 306 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: like marble busts of a naked women but she has 307 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: like a Japanese traditional sleep and he's sending this to 308 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: me and he's like very beautiful, very nice touches, Like 309 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: he is so moved by Banky, Like nothing makes my 310 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: father believe that he is on the precipice of an 311 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: entire new world that, like the Age of Aquarius, is 312 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: at his fingertips. But like when he sees like graffiti 313 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 5: of like an NFT ape like flushing a bunch of 314 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: cheeseburgers in a toilet. 315 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: He's like, finally, I'm alive. 316 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: I'm It's like he's seeing g a like he can't 317 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: fucking get a grip so understanding that he believes that 318 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: the revolution is present in an NFT of like exactly 319 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: like at at art bazzle of like a pop tart 320 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: cat that's like dropping a new gone North Korea or 321 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: something like that makes him go fucking ballistic. 322 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: But he. 323 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: Has really bad taste. 324 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: That only informs a future that he wants it I'm 325 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 5: really scared of. 326 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: So I think it's the first I think. 327 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I agree, but honey, did you say Banky. 328 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: That's his that's hisny was born with? Yeah, that's yeah, 329 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: teename I, So I think. 330 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: It's I agree with you. I actually think it's bad. 331 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: I think it's like it's like cynical and almost tricks 332 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: people into thinking they like art when and like and 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: gives them like it's like not giving them actual sustenance. 334 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, I'm full. 335 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: But they aren't. They aren't fulfilled. And if that didn't exist, 336 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: they would actually have to seek out things that they 337 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: would actually like. 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of like George Bush being a painter. 339 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's. 340 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: Like he could never be cause he's. 341 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Definitely Okay, who's more talented, cause or George Bush. 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: See that's the thing. 343 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: It's like, I think it's I would say George George Bush. 344 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: Is as outsider art. 345 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Actually, I completely agree. You don't see him in museums. No, 346 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: he's on the friend They should put him on the 347 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: outside of. 348 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: Kim Daniel Johnston. Yeah, like they're the same guy basically. 349 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: No, but I do agree with what you guys are saying. 350 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: And it's like it's like saying fast food is like 351 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: a way into health bowls. It's like, no, it's not. Yeah, Okay, 352 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: that's a good point. I actually, so we need to 353 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: find the art. Okay, here's the thing. We need to 354 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: find populist art that is the sort of Chipotle kVA 355 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: of art that's rather than the McDonald's way. 356 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: That's a great point. Chipotle was fulling my way into 357 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: food with flavors. 358 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like it's against his will and posthumous legacy. 359 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: Keith Herring, Oh. 360 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 6: It's like they took that and now that they have 361 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 6: control over it, they made it Chipotle. 362 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: That's true. 363 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very curious who runs Keith Herring's estate because 364 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, why is he on yogurt? 365 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: Like it's so are you kidding me? He's basically like 366 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: a branch of Uniclow at this point. No, No, the 367 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Keith Hearing estate is like one of the most At 368 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: one point I read it's like they are money makers. Yes, 369 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: but I actually think Keith Hearing is a great example 370 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: of someone who, like, if handled correctly, could have been 371 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: the Chipotle, but instead became McDonald's. 372 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: Wow. No, you're right. I think that's really smart. Yeah, 373 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: I wish. 374 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, who is the Chipotle Kava? 375 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: Who? Well, unfortunately I don't know enough about art to 376 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: sort of say who the chipotikva is? I feel. 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: No, but that's the thing if it. Yes, I think boot. 378 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: Is Boscot is Chipotle kVA. 379 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: Because I was at the gym yesterday and I saw 380 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 5: this guy, you know, really kind of like flinging himself 381 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 5: around really just kind of like twirling the dumbbells and 382 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: like somewhat aerobic ways. But I'm really worried about his 383 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: lower back, and he had a giant Boscocht crown tattoo 384 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: right here on his arm. So I think that he's 385 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: the only place I've ever seen it, Like, yeah. 386 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 6: That's where that tattoo goes. That's where it goes. 387 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wait, do you think Jenny Holzer is CHIPOTLEKVA? 388 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, yeah, I wanted to go. Literally, 389 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 6: it's like rupee car. 390 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: Oh okay, oh no, no, no, no, no, she's way worse, 391 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 5: way worse. 392 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 6: It's like she is like the Chipotle bag, but like 393 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: in little Oh, you're right, you're I'm thinking about the bag, 394 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 6: like that's where they talk, they're top. 395 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh No, I'm thinking about the sensation of actually like 396 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: being at the Chipotle, like deciding if you want walk 397 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: or not, Like do you get it at the burrito 398 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: or a ball? 399 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And I think it's like that's the best. 400 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: It's a sense of possibility. It's like when I look 401 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: at a work by Boss Yacht, it doesn't matter if 402 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: it's quite literally inside of a top man, I still 403 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: feel a sense of hope. I'm like, this is I'm 404 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: getting something out of this, out of this decontextualize line. 405 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 5: Also, I would say the other example would be just 406 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: kids that would be like the literary. 407 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh, you're right is on his own as a photographer, 408 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: Chipotle Cova or H and M. 409 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: He is the new H and M. 410 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 411 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: The thing with the Chipotle Cova example is that I 412 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: do think it's a false like they are actually very different. 413 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: Like there's actually many people that don't know Kava. 414 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Cove is Mediterranean bol See, Cova's still Niche, Cova is 415 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: some other artist. I don't know. 416 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 417 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Sam, You're absolutely right. Okay, So Chipotle 418 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: is sort of that girl in the sense that Chipotle 419 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: is the only thing that is both that transcends high. 420 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like populist and it's like kind of a way. 421 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's basically health food. It's health food that 422 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: is unhealthy. 423 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: But Cava is something else, like Cova's like sweet green. 424 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: Oh thank you. 425 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cova is sweet green, and they're both sort of 426 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: more Caroline Polo check. Yeah, Chipotle is Charlie xx. 427 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah or is it no, Chipotle is a jelly oh okay, yeah, yeah, 428 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: Chipotle is jelly roll. You absolutely Chipotle is jelly roll name. 429 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know a single jelly roll song but 430 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: the jelly roll like vibe. I think it's so funny. 431 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: Likes the music or it's just like this guy's kind 432 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: of funny that he's like. 433 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: Chipotle is like jolly roll, post Malone, machine gun Kelly. 434 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: Wow. 435 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like rolling up on your ATV. You're actually fighting. 436 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 5: You're actively fighting with your girlfriend. Who It's like men 437 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: who go to Chipotle are fighting with their girlfriends because 438 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 5: their girlfriends think that think that she's being cheated on 439 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: because she had a dream about it. Yeah, like that's 440 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: what's happening. 441 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: And and by the way, Chipotle is a man who 442 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: is a fuck boy, and Cava is an alt girl 443 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: who takes pictures of dead birds. And they are dating 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, how did he land this like 445 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: hot alt chick And it's like, because, bitch, he's Chipole exactly. 446 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, and deep down she's a little Republican. 447 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Like well, she barely knows what Republican means, but yes, 448 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: she will end up voting. 449 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's like a Hillary stand she has that edge 450 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 6: of looking at roadkill. 451 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: She's edgy Hillary Stan road kill. 452 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: Damn. 453 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: Wow. 454 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: Well, now that we've absolutely left no stone unturned. 455 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was one of the most intellectually dense 456 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: discussions I've ever had in my life. 457 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: I would say that was actually like, that was kind 458 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: of scary. That was like I felt like I was falling, 459 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: but like getting caught at every moment, like I was 460 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: falling but taking care of Like the clouds were little 461 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: pillows that I could land on. 462 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: Mmm. 463 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Okay, it was definitely I write that down. Yeah, little 464 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: pillow clouds. 465 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: Being taken care of. 466 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: Someone, someone with tattoos fall suddenly. Wait, I've thought of 467 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: a new Banksy. Oh perfect, big trump head. Yeah, someone 468 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: pinching it with a little needle. It pops like a balloon. 469 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so so good. 470 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: New Banksy, New Bank's Alert. 471 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: Okay, that elephant and the donkey frenching. 472 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Oh yes, because guess what the. 473 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 6: New Banksy lady and she's trying to go to plan 474 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 6: parent but she's so pregnant. And Goofy from Disneylands is 475 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: the father whoa. 476 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, New banks and New Banksy. An atomic bomb 477 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: is falling on the United States in America and it's money. 478 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it has a huge price tag on it. 479 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Okay, New Banksy. Two guys in 480 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: medieval gear are fighting, but instead of swords, it's giant cocks. 481 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, one is a flower and one is a cock. 482 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: Is a New Banksy, New Banksy grimace. 483 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: It's shooting up heroin, but the heroine is the stock market. 484 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: Ye whoa, Oh my god. Okay, okay, New Banksy, New 485 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: banks and New Banksy. Okay. So it's the ocean and 486 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: there's like all these microplastics and like there's like big 487 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: cans of coc and stuff, and a whale is drinking 488 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: a diet pepsih. 489 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: New banks Okay. It's a McDonald's. But everyone working inside 490 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: and lining up to go inside are prisoners. But they're 491 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 6: also all Mickey Mouse's. 492 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Whoa that I can see going for over And that's it. 493 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: That's the one that's amazing. 494 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm calling uniclow. That's gonna be on every T shirt. 495 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 5: That couple that we mentioned before, the Chipotle copy, they 496 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: reached for that T shirt at U all at the 497 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: exact same time. And that's how they fall in love 498 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 5: right there. 499 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: That is so sweet. God. And you know what Chipotle 500 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: introduced Kava to Banksy. He was like this artist, I 501 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: really like this underground. I watched Exit through the Gift Shop. 502 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a great documentary about Banksy. 503 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 4: And she's like, have you ever seen Crumb? 504 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: She's like, I love her Many Karin. 505 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm like like me. 506 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: It's like, oh so me. 507 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 5: And I keep saying that twenty twenty five pay twenty 508 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: twenty six is gonna be our year twenty. 509 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: We have to wait it out. 510 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: That's twenty twenty five, GMO, twenty twenty six our year. 511 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: Maybe spring Breakers. 512 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: Spring I hope you're right. I don't know where Harmony 513 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: Korin stands. I feel like that guy is probably like 514 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: fucked up politically these days. Does anyone know the truth? 515 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm the Minister of Magic has separated the art 516 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: from the artist. 517 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: Oh thank god, thank you, Minister of Magic. Thank you. 518 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: Thanks to the Minister of Magic, I can listen to 519 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 6: Swans again. 520 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 5: I think Harmony Kurran is just doing like fuck boy 521 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 5: post woke word Salad. I agree where he's like Crypto 522 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 5: Miami Abortion. 523 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: It's like his last movie was him like accidentally doing 524 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: command a highlighting all and inverting and then him going 525 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 6: wait a second, and then he made it the whole thing, 526 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 6: like when your computer goes gray scale. 527 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: For one second, you're like, oh, fuck, how do we wait? 528 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: This is I'm just like stop, we're doing this like 529 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 6: that is just what happened. 530 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: Damn I love that. 531 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 4: And his child has a burgeoning jewelry business. Check it out? 532 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: Really? 533 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, speaking of avant garde, should we do our 534 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: first segment? 535 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing idea, Spike, Honey. Our first 536 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: segment is called straight Shooters, And in the SEMy we're 537 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: going to gage you're familiarity with and complicity and straight 538 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: culture by asking you a series of rapid fire questions. 539 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the 540 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: only rule is you can't ask any followup questions or 541 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: we will scream so loud at you that they're going 542 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: to make a damn banksy about it. 543 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and also, because there's two of you, 544 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you have to answer together. 545 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: Do we try to mind meld? 546 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 547 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: You should try to mind thing? 548 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, go okay, Squad. 549 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm tapping my third eye. 550 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: Russian nesting doll. Or touching your best friend Paul. 551 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 5: One two three touching touching your best friend, Paul, Okay. 552 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: Thug Boots are Back or a grassroots attack. 553 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: Grassroots attack back okay, the end of Times or Amanda Mines. 554 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: The End Times. 555 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Running late or stunning eight. 556 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: Stunning, a little orphan Ani or little red. 557 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: Corvette, little Corvet, new balance or old Yeller. 558 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: Old Yeller, Okay, new year, knew me? 559 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: Or a new phone? 560 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Who dis. 561 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: New phone? 562 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: This Virginia Wolf or Doja cat? This is a tough one, Virginia. 563 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Good job, guys. That was good. 564 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we really tapped in. We are ready 565 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: for to You guys. 566 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: Were really on the same page. That was amazing. 567 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say, Sam, let's start off the 568 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: year with a thousand doves. 569 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 570 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: I love. 571 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I think this is our first 572 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: thousand doves perfect score of the year. I just think 573 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: we need it. We all need to win after everything 574 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: we've been through. I think you guys really took it. Seriously. 575 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: You did a great job. You were able to communicate 576 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: telepathically via zoom. 577 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: We did yes, lay me down like one, two three. 578 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: Eyes roll back in ecstasy, of course, eyes. 579 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Roll back in ecstasy. 580 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: We were in a sense disease. 581 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so a perfect one thousand doves diseased. It 582 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: was an incredible performance. 583 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Wait, I actually speaking of pop music. I have a 584 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: game that I want to introduce. We don't have to 585 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: play it right now, but I thought of this the 586 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: other day. Instead of fuck Mary Kill, it's Danielle heim 587 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: sd Heim. Who's the other one? Alana Alanaheim. So it's 588 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: like there's three things, and it's you have to decide 589 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: which one is the consummate professional, which one is the gesture, 590 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: and which one is the sort of ingenue slash youthful one. 591 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's try it. How would you play it? 592 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: Like three like, let's see think of think of okay, okay. 593 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: So like ketchup mustard relish. 594 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly, all right, ketchup mustard relish. What is the 595 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: game called heim. 596 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: Heim lick heim lick heimlich. 597 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: And the way it works you go ketchup mustard relish 598 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: heimlike and then the person has to has to do it. 599 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: Okay, and it's the Okay, I'm not familiar with the I. 600 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Thought it was all right. So here's the thing. Danielle Heim, 601 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: all right, she is like the brains behind the operation. 602 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: She's like so professional, she's so into production. She's like 603 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: she's like the Donald Rumsfeld. Totally. Yeah. Then we have Alana. 604 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: She is the Angenu. She's the young one. She's so silly, 605 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: she's like doing a little wink, but also is able 606 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: to deliver a performance in a Paul Thomas Anderson film. 607 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: And then Esti is doing a full stand up routine 608 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of the live show, and she's so 609 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: kooky and she's like the crazy She's like the crazy 610 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: one makes a face when she plays, she makes a 611 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: silly face. She's says something in a proper. 612 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 4: I think I got it. 613 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, Estie relish Anna Mustard, daniel catch. 614 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, damn. 615 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think there's an argument to 616 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: be made that because mustard is such a more serious condiment, 617 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: it could be the Danielle. But I think the ketchup's 618 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: status is the classic American condiment makes it Danielle. Yeah. 619 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: I think so too, because it's actually, like, like Alana, 620 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: when someone really likes mustard, they get to feel like 621 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: a little bit unique, like they're like, I actually really 622 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: like mustard, and mustard is definitely the most Paul Thomas 623 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: Anderson of the throat. 624 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, and being so like mustard only on the hot 625 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 6: dog like that is liquiche. 626 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Pizza one percent. 627 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 6: It's like, why does that hot dog not have ketchup? 628 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 6: Because it's period realism exactly. 629 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Guess all right, Wow, I'm so glad I brought that up. 630 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: That was amazing, I will. 631 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: Say now I am so intensely ready to get into 632 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: the topic. 633 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: Yes, So, Spike and Honey, what is the topic you've 634 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: brought to us today and what makes it straight to you? 635 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: Okay? 636 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: What laws? 637 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: Laws? 638 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: His laws? 639 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: Okay, the topic that we brought in this week is laws, 640 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: the law, the law. 641 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Law. 642 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: Laws are heterosexual because it's someone telling you what the 643 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 5: fuck to do. 644 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: Okay, laws is the. 645 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 5: Man, Okay, laws is some it's it's it's the default. 646 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: You don't get to consent to the laws that you 647 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: are a part of or that you have to live 648 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: your life around. So it's classic straight culture and heterosexuality 649 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: because you're following along to a system that you don't 650 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: even know if you approve of, and it penalizes you, 651 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 5: which is straight. 652 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: Think about that being penalized. That's straight. You want to say, 653 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, that sounds gay. 654 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: It's great, it's straight. 655 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: Consequences are straight, Okay, It's. 656 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 5: Like gay people hate. Consequences myself include obviously I do. 657 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 6: Obviously I know it's early in the game, but I 658 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 6: want to make a caveat, which is that rules are 659 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 6: not laws. 660 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: Those are different things. 661 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: I like that because they're like a little bit more. 662 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Of a guide. 663 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: Rules are more queer. 664 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: Because rules is rules is the guidelines of being in 665 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: a polyamorous polycule. Like that's rules, that's not laws. 666 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 6: Rules is also like laws are like carved into stone 667 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 6: heterosexual and rules are like tacked on the outside of 668 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 6: a treehouse. 669 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: They are chosen by consensus. Everyone is having vegan. 670 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: People change rules all the time. 671 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like. 672 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: Laws. 673 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: Laws also really kissed me off because like the way 674 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: that people like don't understand the note behind the note 675 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to laws, Like people are like, oh, 676 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: like if the like so this isn't a law. But 677 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: like like when it's like like at a movie theater 678 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: when it's like it's not illegal to leave your cup 679 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: there when the movie's over, and like have the person 680 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: clean it up, So people will leave their cup there 681 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: to clean it up, and it's. 682 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's heterosexual. 683 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's what I mean. It's like you should 684 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: still throw it away exactly, And it is so. 685 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 6: Leave no trace, like leave no trace, that's a rule. 686 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 6: And if you have leave no traces a rule, that 687 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 6: is gay. And you're acting as like you're turning everywhere 688 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 6: into like a beautiful campsite like that. When you just 689 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 6: leave wicked and you're taking other people's cups, that's you 690 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 6: doing leave no trace and you're queering the space. 691 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, And I think that's great. 692 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: I I I get so annoyed when people need laws 693 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: to act correctly. Yeah, like what's that. 694 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 5: Because consequences are straight, but accountability is gay? Yes, yes, yeah, 695 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: you know it's like and so that kind of goes 696 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 5: back to this you know, prayer circle element of account 697 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 5: ability or rules that. 698 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: Gay people really cling to. It's like you want to 699 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: have you know, you want to be summoning up the 700 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: mountain to speak to elder. And that's why gay people 701 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: love survivor so much. 702 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 6: Like this is going to be controversial, but God handed 703 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 6: down commandments and those were yes, written in stone and 704 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 6: what were they? Directly in defiance of people having an 705 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 6: amazing time with the sheikh calf that was made of gold. 706 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 6: So it's kind of like where like where you know, 707 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 6: God I think was playing a joke and had all 708 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 6: this punishment and torture for straight people and for the 709 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 6: purpose of procreation, and then everyone who was doing like 710 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 6: idol worship was kind of like, well, we have our 711 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 6: own thing going that has rules. Like they weren't just 712 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 6: doing there weren't no rules. They just weren't the set 713 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 6: in stone heterosexual laws. 714 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine being such a buzzkill that 715 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: you just like parachute down into the world and you're like, 716 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: there are ten laws now, yeah, Like that's like, first 717 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: of all, it's your community, like get to know their. 718 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: Honor, thy father and mother, like shut. 719 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: Not all of us have a mother and father, I 720 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: want to say one other exactly. A corollary of all 721 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: this is law. Operating in a way that follows laws 722 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: is fear based because you are afraid of consequences. To 723 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: your point, you are afraid of punishment. You're afraid of 724 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: going to prison. Operating in accordance to rules is all 725 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: about communal care, and it's not Sometimes you might follow 726 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: rules in a way that you're not going to get 727 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: rewarded for, and if you break rules, you're not going 728 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: to get punished, but you are operating on like a 729 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: moral uh, you know, based on a sense of morality, Yeah, 730 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: and a sense of ethics and an ethics of care. 731 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm lead please, no you go. 732 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna list some of my least 733 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: favorite laws. 734 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 6: Was I was literally about to start their insider trading, right, it's. 735 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: Like jaywalking number one. 736 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: Well that recently now when New York is no longer 737 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 5: really really in LA, it's legal as fuck. So I'm 738 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 5: gonna looking left and right because but that's also the thing. 739 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 5: It's like gay people are defiant. Obviously, we put our 740 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 5: hands up in the air. We fight for what's right. 741 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 5: If I why why do I need to walk on 742 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 5: these slotted horizontal stripes just to get across the street 743 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: because a. 744 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: Man told me to? That's straight. I don't want to 745 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 3: fucking do that anymore. 746 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: Who's the man that I'm listening to? 747 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 6: The white man that's in the long signal, This guy 748 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 6: I'm listening to that white man. 749 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: No white house is popping as a balloon. I'm supposed 750 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: to listen to the popping as a balloon. 751 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: I speeding should also just not be alone, like that's 752 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: autumn everywhere. 753 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: I think there was a child. I really like the 754 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: idea of laws, Like I think, I was like this 755 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: is awesome, and then as an adult it really is like, oh, 756 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: this is so not fake. But it's like like I 757 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: think about like you realize how many people are breaking 758 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: laws at all times, and it's like, okay, then we 759 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: need to stop having them, Like we need to figure 760 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: this out in a moral. 761 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: And of course, what you're pointing to the kind of 762 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: like current dare I say I start to use this 763 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: term laid capitalist issue with laws is that we are 764 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: in a place where if you have power, you don't 765 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: have to follow the law. Yes, So there's the problems 766 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: with laws, you know, as written, and then there's problems 767 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: with the general legal system where guess what, if you're 768 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, you don't have to pay taxes, which is 769 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: something that is by law, something all of us have 770 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: to do as independent contractors. 771 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: Well even like and like drug use is like if 772 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: you're rich, it's fine, if you're poor, it's horrible. 773 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: Like if you're white, it's fine. Yeah you're not white, 774 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: it's bad. 775 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like it is. So I know we're like 776 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: not saying anything groundbreaking and that everyone already agrees with 777 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: us and knows this, but it is sort of like, 778 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: how come that hasn't been changed yet? I don't understand. 779 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 5: Well, another fun thing about law is then when you 780 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 5: break them, you get to be a criminal. 781 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: And what's amazing is gay criminals that Donald Trump, Yeah, 782 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: most of them all. 783 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: You know when Eileen Werenos and criminal? 784 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, So that's fun too. 785 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 5: You know, when gay people have had enough, then you 786 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 5: get to have a little dog day afternoon man, and 787 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 5: it's like I'm going to you know, realign my life 788 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 5: as mine and to find the laws for me, finally 789 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 5: living your queer truth out loud if you will. 790 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what Eileen Wenos did exactly. 791 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: She did nothing, She did nothing wrong. Any of us 792 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: would have done that in her situation, any of us complete. 793 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 3: So maybe you can try it. 794 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 5: Laws that I've personally had to come up across in 795 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: my day, obviously not paying the MTA fine, the fair 796 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: jumping over a turnstile, yea, yeah, nothing could be Like, 797 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 5: nothing is more heterosexual than forcing me to give you 798 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 5: money for something that doesn't work. It's like gay services work, okay, Yeah, 799 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 5: that's like you trust a gay guy to cut your 800 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 5: hair because that ship's going to work. 801 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: A gay tailor works. 802 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 803 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: We trust homosexuals. Yeah, yeah, to get from point A 804 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: to point B. 805 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 806 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 6: Similarly, stealing like that was never that was never mine. 807 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 6: It was never theirs. Like it's a communal aspect like giving, 808 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 6: it's you know, like think about how Robinhood was dressed. 809 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: That's very gay. 810 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 811 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: On stealing, I feel no, I agree with you. 812 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, so I used to go into an American 813 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 5: apparel and I was like, all, this ship is mine. 814 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 6: I was like, this is raw horror pants size twenty 815 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 6: four to twenty nine because it didn't go above twenty nine. 816 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 4: This essentially out of there a free man. 817 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: Essentially every store is CBS. So I'm like, well, no, one, 818 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: this is literally a victimless crime. Stealing from any store now, 819 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: Like it's not like any store is like, oh, this 820 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: is a mom and pop, Like they've had this little 821 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: general store and they make their own butter. Like, no, 822 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: it's all CBS. 823 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: I know. By the way, speaking of CVS, you know 824 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: what is the biggest failure of public policy is the 825 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: way things are locked in CBS current And I would 826 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: say that is like, it's like that is laws person exactly. 827 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: That is what I was about to say, it's like, 828 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: if you take the ethos of laws to which to 829 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: its natural conclusion, here's what you get. A store where 830 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: it is quite literally impossible to buy anything. Yeah, because 831 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: everything is locked and there's no one there to. 832 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 6: Get the items have already done something to land themselves 833 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 6: in pay exactly, and like now the people working like 834 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 6: each store is a mega prison with like the clerks 835 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 6: are wardens, freeing the deodorant from its sentence. 836 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 837 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: And it's devastating because now I worry that we're. 838 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 5: About to enter an era where you can't even run 839 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 5: an errand anymore. It's like, that's what's so devastating is 840 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 5: like going to CVS used to be so fab Like 841 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 5: you know, walking to CVS, hearing the food fighters, you know, 842 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 5: blaring so loud. It's like, you know, and just being 843 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 5: able to kind of like meander through the lines and 844 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: then pick up what you wanted. 845 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 6: And then now open a monster and you just sort 846 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 6: of drink it while you're there and then it ends 847 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 6: up in the trash and you don't have to pay 848 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 6: for it exactly. 849 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 5: But now I need to have like five friends sign 850 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 5: a petition for me to like buy my neuture gena 851 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 5: face wash. I have to like share a fucking go 852 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 5: fundme for my toothpaste to be able to like liberate 853 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 5: it like a prison. And then you press the button. 854 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 5: You press the little button and it echoes over the 855 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 5: hollowed halls and just kind of like chronically as. 856 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: You pray for a worker to come. 857 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: You press the button and suddenly there's an announcement to 858 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: the whole block. That's like gay guy needs his moisturizer. 859 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 6: Like pressing the button is entering into the consumer consent 860 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 6: of like being on blasts. It's like there's no more browsing. 861 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 6: Browsing very gay. Just looking looking is gay cruising when 862 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 6: you you're cruising, cruising exactly. You could you could find 863 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 6: what you want, you could not. You could leave with 864 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: something that no one knows that you left with that's 865 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 6: sexy to take to take away and under no one 866 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 6: is aware. Now you press the button, You're like, I'm 867 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 6: a consumer, Come to me, help me to enter into 868 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 6: this thing where the laws are. 869 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 4: I press the button to. 870 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: Press the button, and it's like trans guy needs monostatus. 871 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 3: Everybody also like. 872 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: That, like only so the only action you are legally 873 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: permitted to do is purchase because guess what, what if 874 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: I want to just check a bottle and see if 875 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: it has microplastics, Yeah, that doesn't mean I have to 876 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: buy it. It's there for my perusal, exactly. I'm not 877 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: going to call. I'm not going to press It would 878 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: be humiliating if I press the button. Someone who is 879 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: being paid negative two cents an hour came got it 880 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: for me, just for me to be like hmm, never mind, 881 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: I would hate myself. 882 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: I this is like making me actually so upset because 883 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 2: walking and going to buy a little thing is like 884 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: one of the few joys we have in this world. 885 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: And like, I fucking like hate having the like online 886 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 2: subscribe to toilet paper. It's like, what are you talking about? 887 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: Subscription services? 888 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 6: This is the other pasty, Like okay, this is the 889 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 6: other thing that every item is in prison. 890 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 4: But also every item now has a. 891 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 6: Voice that they talk to you with, Like every item 892 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 6: is like hi, I'm winky, the you razor that, Like 893 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 6: it's like, no, I don't want to hear you should 894 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 6: be silent in my inner pocket or up my sleeve, 895 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 6: like a big piece of cheese from Whole Foods that 896 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 6: no one will miss. That I do, like, I don't 897 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 6: want you to have this agency. That's like, that's why 898 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 6: you're in the cage because you started talking. Yeah, these 899 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 6: they're making these voices. So we feel bad for liberating 900 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 6: them because now the Dyson is an item that I 901 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 6: can meet, meet the new Dyson, Like, I don't want 902 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 6: to meet her. I want her to fall off the 903 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 6: back of the truck and then I take her into 904 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 6: my house. 905 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: By the way, guess what you think having you think 906 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: personifying product is going to make them, make you have 907 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: a more personal connection to them. It's actually doing the opposite. 908 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: It's making them so similar to humans that then you're 909 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: walking around looking at humans and you're like, well, that's 910 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: basically as good as a detergent. Like I'm not going 911 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: to respect my fellow man because he's basically just a detergent. 912 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 4: He's Harry's razor. 913 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 6: He's Harry's razors, and I don't give a fuck about it. 914 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 915 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm muting him. 916 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: Next thing you know, there's murder on the street. So 917 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: much for thou shalt not kill. 918 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 4: No, so much for that. 919 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 1: Thanks Harry's Jesus Christ. 920 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 6: And if you're ever a sponsor of this podcast, you 921 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 6: can see yourself out. You get a call all the 922 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 6: investors have dropped. 923 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 3: Your product. 924 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 4: Random, what are you doing? 925 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 2: You're losing billions billions. I tell you, I'm trying to 926 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: think if there's any laws I particularly dislike or. 927 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 6: Like no shirt, no shoes, no service. That's insane, that's insane. Yeah, 928 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 6: that's a flaw. 929 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: This is interesting what you just said, because that is 930 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: technically Okay, that is technically a rule. It's not in 931 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: the constitution. However, the way that it's it's it's you 932 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I just. 933 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: Like Spike, actually did not know that until right now. 934 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 4: I was like, that's in the constitution. That's the fifty 935 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: of the men. 936 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: But I think the way that it's portrayed is making 937 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,439 Speaker 1: it hold much more. Listen, a sign that says live, laugh, 938 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: love is just as legally binding as a sign that 939 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: says no shirt, no shoes, no service. But somehow the 940 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: ladder has the gravity of law whereas the former doesn't. 941 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: You know why, because it's sexism, because the former is 942 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: more feminine and the ladder is more masculine. 943 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the font difference. 944 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 5: What about the signs that are like in this house, 945 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 5: we believe are those as binding if you go into 946 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 5: one of those houses and. 947 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 4: Like science is real within our girls, I have. 948 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 1: An answer for that. I think what that is doing 949 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: is appropriating the sort of rules that you guys were 950 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: describing as queer. It's like it's like a straight couple 951 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: saw a documentary about communes in the seventies and then 952 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: made that as an homage, you know what to rules. 953 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 6: It's the gray area of allyship where you have straight 954 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 6: allies and you have very desiring of assimilation gay people. 955 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 6: Like it's like the Ruth Konda gay people who put 956 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 6: those signs on their lawn because they want to take 957 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 6: rules out of our like gay subculture and make them 958 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 6: towards laws in me oh like hetero palpable, Like those 959 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 6: lawn signs are being like because like we we all 960 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 6: know that like love. 961 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: Love, that science real. 962 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 6: I don't need to put that on my lawn like 963 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 6: a Trump sign to like make that an equal statement. 964 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 3: Like I think it's also. 965 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's smart. 966 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 3: I think it's those very nervous liberals that like watch 967 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 3: like an Inconvenient Truth and like live in Portland, Oregon 968 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: and like adopted a dog in like Twinkie or something 969 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 3: and you're like really stressed that all the time. 970 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 4: Exactly, that's a byte record and. 971 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 3: Like have to wear a diaper all the time. 972 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 5: But it's like you're putting that sign in your lawn 973 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 5: because you don't want your house to get looted when 974 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 5: the grid comes down. I think it's also kind of 975 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 5: security measure. 976 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 4: When you're gonna loot, you look for that sign. 977 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 3: And well I wouldn't because those houses looting also should 978 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 3: be legal, another fucking botch law. It's like that is 979 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 3: a flop. I would never loot. 980 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 5: From the Liberal house because they don't even have any 981 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 5: good ship. They just have the dice and that talks 982 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 5: to you and like a rumba that they both tried 983 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 5: to have sex. 984 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 4: They have. 985 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: They do have a vite. 986 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 3: Like I guess I would loot the Scobie mother, but 987 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 3: like at that point, if it's like full apocket, it's 988 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 3: like what am I going to do with that? 989 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I feel like I know Portland 990 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 6: less than you, So I'm like deferring to you. 991 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm looting framed museum posters. 992 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. 993 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 5: Well then I guess like, well, what's what's what's the 994 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,959 Speaker 5: Portland equivalent in New York, like Clinton Hill. 995 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 3: It's like I would definitely. 996 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 6: Lose, That's what I'm saying. And they would have that 997 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 6: lawn sign so I'd be like, I'm going in there. 998 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: No, I'm going in. 999 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 4: They would. 1000 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: They would have many beautiful wide legged canvas pants. 1001 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 2: I mean the vinyl collections I better to die for. 1002 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm getting a paper weight that looks like a 1003 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 3: nipple and. 1004 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 4: It's randomly ten thousand dollars. 1005 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. 1006 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, blanket, a blanket that has boobs that are all 1007 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: different shapes and sizes to symbolize and clothes. 1008 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 6: If I never see one of those again, if I 1009 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 6: never see a tote with every kind of tit that 1010 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 6: could exist, it will be amazing because because the thing, 1011 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 6: the thing, the thing with that gets kits are never 1012 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 6: on there, so it's not true. The thing with like 1013 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,959 Speaker 6: millennial body positivity art is that it can only make 1014 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 6: you feel worse about yourself because it's like this really hideous, 1015 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 6: illustrative style where like everyone just looks like they're like 1016 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 6: on their way to get their HPV vaccine. Like it's 1017 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 6: so ugly and liked. 1018 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 5: It's like, I don't understand why you want to How 1019 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 5: can you make people feel better about themselves when you 1020 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 5: make when when you like de sexualize them, It's like 1021 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 5: sex is what being sexy is, what makes you feel 1022 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 5: good about yourself. 1023 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 3: Not looking like you are like it's weird flattening. 1024 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: Here's what millennial inclusivity boils down to this statement, you 1025 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: are beautiful even if you're ugly, Like that is what 1026 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: you are being. Wait, so am I ugly? It's like, yes, 1027 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: you are, and that's okay, Like wait, no, but I 1028 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: thought I was fine. You're beautiful even though you're ugly. 1029 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 4: It's like, no, shit, Actually. 1030 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 3: It's like you are beautiful even though like one of 1031 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 3: your boobs looks like a dog ear and the other 1032 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 3: one got like blown off by a shotgun. It's like, 1033 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 3: you're so beautiful. 1034 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: It's like what. 1035 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 6: It's the same way where they like reduce it's very 1036 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 6: laws to be like, okay, you can put tits on 1037 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 6: a toe bag if they're all two dimensional line drawings. 1038 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 6: It's like you can do a volva if it's parentheses 1039 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 6: with an apostrophe in it, to like illustrate that we're 1040 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 6: all like unique and different. It's like you're actually homogenizing 1041 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 6: it in this way. That's very like Oscar Healthcare City Bike. 1042 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: You're deuroticizing it and you're actually further stigmatizing real genitals. 1043 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, which, my shit looks like I went through a 1044 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 6: wood chipper. And that's why ugly is beautiful. 1045 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 5: Frankly, I am ready for the penis version of the 1046 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 5: canvas toe bag. Yeah, it's like I am ready, And 1047 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 5: it's just like the bunch of use and like some 1048 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 5: grape nuts, like when's when's that? 1049 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 6: The version that is acceptable is like fruit that's kind 1050 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 6: of phallic. It's like, no, we're not doing that, Like 1051 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 6: I need the like ratfink or crumb SpongeBob zoom in 1052 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 6: Ren and ste. 1053 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: Medical medical love it. A grid of medical photographs. Get this, 1054 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 1: a set of coasters. Each of them has a different 1055 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: medical photograph of a misshapen penis. Yeah, and that is 1056 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: literally sold at a Clinton Hill pottery store. 1057 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 4: Yes, and each each just want the degrees that it's curved. 1058 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah what if you just want no? 1059 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 5: But see the fact that that's the thing. See, that's 1060 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 5: where it's hard because Sam was like, I want that. 1061 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 5: And that's why gay guys are so high vibrational and 1062 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 5: smart is because I could be in like a Clinton 1063 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 5: Hill pottery barn buying like ninety nine dollars like Sheep's 1064 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 5: milk yogurt, and then like I also want a pillow. 1065 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 5: That's a pillow, and then like I also want to 1066 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 5: buy the coaster of like a micro penis with like 1067 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 5: a sunburn on it. But then gay guys are like 1068 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 5: that's hot, and that's why it's that's why it's brilliant. 1069 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 5: It's like unfortunately, like straight women need to look at 1070 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 5: whatever their bodies are and be. 1071 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 3: Like that's hot. 1072 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,479 Speaker 5: It's like all bodies are hot because having a body 1073 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 5: is hot. 1074 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they don't want it to even be hot 1075 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 4: on the toe bag with all the tits. It's like they. 1076 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 6: Want it to be like the law is like you 1077 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 6: must accept this, like we've gone underneath like censorship, Like 1078 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 6: what would be censored which is actually something hot? Like 1079 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 6: if it was like if I was walking around the 1080 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 6: tope bag with a full blue waffle on it, like 1081 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 6: that would be hot and that would be any listener 1082 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 6: of this podcast. But like if because it's the little 1083 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 6: drawings that's law abiding and that's straight. Yeah, Like I'm 1084 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 6: gonna talk about a gift that I just got, honey, 1085 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 6: which is an amazing calendar. 1086 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: Honey, I was gonna ask you about this calendar. Is 1087 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 2: this the beef calendar? 1088 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 6: No, it's the cult calendar and it's from the year 1089 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 6: nineteen eighty six because it has the same dates as 1090 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. Ohazing, smart and he can use the calendar. 1091 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 3: But it has and I've been using the calendar. 1092 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: Wait, oh, I. 1093 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 6: Hopeful each each picture is like an amazing It's like 1094 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 6: a you know, like a guy like just fully spreading 1095 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 6: in chaps and it's awesome. 1096 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 3: It's it's really gooc forward. 1097 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 1098 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 4: But that's not what could be on a toe bag. 1099 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: You can never put that. 1100 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 5: I need a toe back that's like good, you know, 1101 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 5: six inch uncut. But the penis has been run over 1102 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 5: by a car, you know, I want. 1103 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 3: Like tire marks on that ship and stimpy that entire. 1104 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 4: The Coba girl who takes pictures of roadkill freak out. 1105 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right. 1106 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 4: She thinks it's punching the Copper girl. 1107 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: Copper Girl thinks she's all. 1108 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 6: In the penis runovers truck and she's like, actually, I'm 1109 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 6: I'm not by I'm straight. 1110 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: Yes, She's literally like I'm going to church this and 1111 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: while it lasted, but at twenty three, my period is over. 1112 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, my apartment, my my decor is slowly, slowly turning 1113 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 2: exclusively into like misshapen dicks. Like that's photo realists. 1114 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 3: Give it a Cronenberg up in your like full fallol plastics. 1115 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: I love it. I can't get enough of this stuff 1116 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 2: because I my calendar. I got a calendar with also 1117 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: like uh like you know, burly men spreading it. That's 1118 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 2: really similar to the one that you have, honey. I love. 1119 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: And that's what needs to be done. It's like you 1120 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 1: have to take millennial sort of mid like twenty tens 1121 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: millennial host Obama inclusivity and give it a Cronenbergian twist, 1122 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: Like I want Cronenberg to do a reno of every 1123 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: candle and pottery store in Brooklyn and silver Lake, and 1124 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: then we can elect someone in four years that can 1125 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, potentially pass universal health care. 1126 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: That the path towards it starts with one. 1127 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 6: When it's like all the like candles that are shaped 1128 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 6: like an ass actually like pouring like rancid diary. 1129 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: Literally just out of the hole. 1130 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah that's perfect. 1131 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 5: But it's like, I know, it's funny thinking about like 1132 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 5: post Obama, I feel like I'm doing a George impression 1133 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 5: when I'm like, it's actually funny when you think of 1134 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, rather. 1135 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: Than telling a joke, it's just being like, it's actually funny. 1136 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm Monsterdio lab, I'm talking like George. 1137 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 5: Well, it's actually funny when you think of like, well, 1138 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 5: then like what is the post Trump Biden art? But 1139 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 5: then also what is like Trump art, which I guess 1140 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 5: is just a I. 1141 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: N F T. Trump? 1142 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 5: And if Trump art is like Elon and Trump are 1143 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 5: both like nine out tall sumo wrestlers, and they're and 1144 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 5: and and they're both like taking a bite out of 1145 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 5: the Eiffel Towers. 1146 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also literally like clips of Theovon's podcast, like 1147 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: that is art. That is Trump era art. That is 1148 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: an Instagram reel of Theovon in conversation with Tucker Carlson. 1149 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: I actually saw video recently where Tucker Carlson says the 1150 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 1: word nonpartisan, and then Theovan goes, what do you even 1151 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: mean by that? And then Tucker Carlson is like trying 1152 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: to describe it in context, but then it becomes clear 1153 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: quickly that Theovon just does not know the word nonpartisan 1154 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: and he's like yeah, but like what does it mean? 1155 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: And so then it just becomes this thing where Tucker 1156 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: Carlson is explaining literally what the word partisan means to theovon. 1157 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: That's Trump era art. 1158 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 2: That's Trump era art. I've seen this clip. It's rough. 1159 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 6: The AI aspect of Trump era art is also like 1160 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 6: being able to make those videos where it's like Obama 1161 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 6: is dancing and then turning into Shakira and becoming Jennifer. 1162 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 4: And like that's that's like what we have now. 1163 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 6: And I think that the Obama era art was also 1164 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 6: pop art, Like I think it was very like Obama 1165 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 6: like Picture the Hope. Yeah, that was that's pop art, 1166 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 6: and like that's what we had. And then the Joe 1167 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 6: Biden thing is kind of like retirement home paintings, like 1168 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 6: just like faded dust collecting on the wall, like with 1169 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 6: like you know, like dry paper whispering in the wind. 1170 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 4: And now we're in this full like like as Honey. 1171 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 6: Likes to say, Deep Fried AI era, where like it's 1172 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 6: a repost of a repost so that the quality is 1173 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 6: going down and it's like people transforming. 1174 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 5: And it's also those videos where it's like a split 1175 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 5: screen and like one half of the video is like 1176 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 5: hand standing a table or like. 1177 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 6: Writing a video, and it's like an AI boy was 1178 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 6: like when the girl checked her phone there was a 1179 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 6: text message. 1180 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 4: And she was in the car going fast to the 1181 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 4: grocery store. 1182 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 6: It said come home baby, and then there's just like 1183 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 6: someone cutting cucumber really fast. 1184 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 2: Actually, I can't stop thinking about I saw something and 1185 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 2: I can't tell what to think about it. Where it's 1186 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 2: like people are you know, there are now like AI 1187 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 2: accounts and they're like and like people like Twitter and 1188 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: Meta and are like making AI accounts to engage more 1189 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: with real accounts. But it's like becoming this thing where 1190 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 2: it's eventually just going to be a accounts interacting with 1191 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: each other and it's just going to be like mostly fake. 1192 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 2: Like what do we do with that? 1193 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 4: I mean they're probably gonna have a podcast. 1194 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean literally accounts. 1195 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be like we have to have sex, like 1196 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 3: that's what you do. It's like because AI, there's one 1197 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: thing that we can do that they can't do, is 1198 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 3: have sex. We just have to make sure that we're 1199 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: having sex with. 1200 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 4: Each other and not with AI, because that that is 1201 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 4: don't do that. 1202 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 6: I don't do that you guys are that's a rule. 1203 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: That's a rule, a recommendation, rules, a recommendation. 1204 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: That's all there, we go, So you are. So it 1205 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: used to be that sex positivity was a response to 1206 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: like Christian like puranism. Yeah, but now sex positivity is 1207 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: vital as a response to AI hegemony. Absolutely and like 1208 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: techno or techno dystopian fascism. 1209 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 6: No algorithm robot could create something that could fully penetrate 1210 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 6: my complete destroyed situation there that is only created by God, 1211 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 6: and in such a way that it's like, it's like 1212 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 6: the Goddess of creative creation and destruction at once are 1213 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 6: my genital and nothing, no amount of If you had 1214 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 6: a computer work for eighty six billion years, it could 1215 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 6: not come up with the thing to fit inside there. 1216 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 6: And that's what's beautiful about human to human sex and sexuality. 1217 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 2: That's true. I love that. Okay, back to laws. I 1218 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: have a question. 1219 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 4: I was just I was just talking about laws. 1220 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: But okay, okay, yeah, okay, back back to the topic. 1221 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Back to the okay, back to the real topic. Uh, okay, 1222 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: police or lawyers? Which one is straighter? 1223 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh, this is a question. 1224 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 6: It's hard because there's no gay fetish dress up as lawyers. 1225 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 4: But okay, so you can't like fetishize like. 1226 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 5: You could fetishize like French lawyers like that way fall 1227 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 5: the wigs and like the little dress you could fetish 1228 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 5: eye that that does. 1229 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: There's my instinct is to say lawyers are straighter, and 1230 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why. Here's why I think, Yes, well, 1231 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: I think is lawyers suit bland, I'll fit, you know. 1232 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 6: But there's people who go to the courtroom like looking, 1233 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 6: that's true, but then they're thinking joker represented himself. 1234 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Arguing whatever police you know, say what you want about 1235 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: the politics of policing. They they are wearing sort of campy, 1236 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: draggy costumes. 1237 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 4: That's why it gets towards being like yeah. 1238 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's it's it's fetish where and and also frankly, 1239 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: so often you know when they are in repose, they're 1240 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: literally like playing Candy Crush on their phone and there's 1241 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,959 Speaker 1: something actually very sort of like Barista who is being 1242 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: rude to the customers. 1243 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: About no that's gurly coded for sure. 1244 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 6: I feel though, like because they have to uphold the law, 1245 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 6: they're straighter, and then lawyers are more gay because they're 1246 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 6: like fighting and tweaking and going in and. 1247 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I see that's true. 1248 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 2: There's some creativity. 1249 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 5: So it's like the fruit ninja of you know, off 1250 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 5: time of being a cop is straight because there just 1251 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 5: is this like there just is it this like ghost 1252 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 5: like drooling kind of like dunce quality to police officers 1253 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 5: where they're like all it's kind of like slap jawed 1254 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 5: and like slow, and there's. 1255 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Just like that to me is straight. But like when 1256 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: I think of a lawyer, I think about all my 1257 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 3: gay lawyer friends who like our gay lawyers had to 1258 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: go to gay lawyer school, you know. 1259 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 4: And they're like helping us be like be allowed to steal. 1260 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Basically totally yeah, gay totally that there is such a 1261 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: rich tradition of gay lawyers, right, that's a great I 1262 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: mean the A c l U is basically just like 1263 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: like a food co. 1264 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 4: Op saying may I approach the bench? Like that's gay. 1265 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 2: So lawyer dumb is sort of like wizards. 1266 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: It's behind your back. 1267 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 2: So lawyers are kind of like wizards and that they 1268 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: have power but it's good or bad and they have 1269 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 2: to go to lawyer school and solve crime. 1270 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 6: So like an owl kind of comes to their window, right, right. 1271 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: A lawyers are Gryffindor and cops are Slytherin. 1272 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 4: Cops are Baltimore. If we're gonna. 1273 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Cops for Baltimore, cops are Buggles. I'm sorry, I can't. 1274 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 4: I'm really mad that I just said cops are Baltimore, and. 1275 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 2: You know what, I. 1276 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: Was like, I'm not going to bring it up again. 1277 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: But then you said owl and I was like, Okay, 1278 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I guess I have permission, Sam, And I'm. 1279 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 6: Being Sam right now podcast by saying Sam started. 1280 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 3: It, well, I think courtroom dramas are also gay, and 1281 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: so that's lawyer and whereas I think procedurals are straight 1282 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: straight Yeah, I agree, are like. 1283 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Great courtroom dramas are gay. 1284 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 6: Courtroom dramas like Judge Judy presiding over like a fight 1285 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 6: that's literally fake, that's like played up for drama, And 1286 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 6: procedurals are like somebody really needing to protect their dogs. 1287 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a way in which with the procedural 1288 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: the law prevails, whereas with the courtroom drama it's more 1289 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: like a sort of family play. It's august Osage County. 1290 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: There are people yelling of like you're not. There's not 1291 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: a clearly just audience. So it's literally it's literally theater. 1292 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: It's a black box theater, and they're doing an all 1293 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and all women and femmes version of King lear. 1294 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 2: Well in that moment when the evidence drops, like and 1295 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 2: you like reveal a nasty photo of like the scene 1296 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 2: and you're. 1297 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 3: Like, oh exhibit A, yes, God, I would kill for 1298 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:38,439 Speaker 3: that moment. 1299 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 5: And there's so many Ryan Murphy, you know, like crime, 1300 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 5: it's like, you know crime is you know, b gay 1301 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 5: do crime? Obviously throw up and cry, but you know 1302 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 5: crime is also pretty gay. 1303 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, b gay do crimes? Or throw up and cry? 1304 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, throw up and do crime. 1305 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 6: Oh and vomit like vomit artist Lady Gaga on stage 1306 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 6: during Swine like vomit as crime love. 1307 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 3: But then Law and Order s VU is straight. 1308 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: It's straight totally. People are desperate to make it gay. 1309 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: They're like it's like. 1310 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 4: It's like she just is like she's like tough. It 1311 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 4: doesn't make yes like she's not. 1312 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 3: She's not. 1313 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 4: She's just like a tough woman. 1314 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 3: Christopher Maloney is kind of straggedy though. 1315 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: You know that as well. Chris Maloney and Oz you 1316 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, Yes. 1317 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 2: What it's like it's like Stanley. 1318 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 3: He's almost Stanley Chucci levels sing it. Yeah. 1319 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like in the calendar basically. 1320 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Like Chris. Chris Maloney's biggest dream is to just show 1321 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: full cock and and he is the horniest motherfucker out there. Yeah, 1322 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 1: and he's like an exhibition. It's like he wants to 1323 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: show up to your house with like a burbery. 1324 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 6: He wants to be like somebody like he wants to 1325 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 6: be like I'm here to investigate a crime, dress as 1326 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 6: a policeman and then take it off because he's actually 1327 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 6: a stress. 1328 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 2: Literally, Yeah, it would be amazing. 1329 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 3: He's in the writer's room, like, so, and what season 1330 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 3: do I show Hawk? When am I able to Finally. 1331 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 6: Maybe there's a I'm tied to a chair and they 1332 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 6: need to expose Hog to like blackmail me, like. 1333 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: Simon, maybe electricute my nipples. But in a way that's 1334 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: pro justice. Yeah yeah. 1335 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 3: And Iced Tea is not having it, No, no, he 1336 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 3: does not having it. He's like cut the funny business. 1337 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here to work, Tea and that's against the law. 1338 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: Is such a beautiful American success story to me, Like 1339 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 1: every time I see him, I'm so happy. I'm like 1340 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: you really you did it like you're. 1341 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 3: On you know my relationship with him? Right? 1342 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 2: No? 1343 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 4: No, and he's like tweeting it's like amazing. 1344 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: And he has that hot wife who he's so well yeah, 1345 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: and a daughter whose age just stayed the same for 1346 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: like five or seven years. Really perfect. 1347 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 5: So my relationship with Iced Tea is that is that 1348 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 5: I was on one episode of his now canceled court 1349 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 5: room reality television show The Mediator. 1350 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 2: What why what were you doing there? 1351 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 3: I was suing my friend? 1352 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Was it real? 1353 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 3: It was exaggerated? 1354 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, all this talk of laws and rules, you have 1355 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: not revealed that you were in a court room judge 1356 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Judy style show with Ice teare presumably queer athology is friend? 1357 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and it I don't know. I had like 1358 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 5: a like a what did you say? 1359 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 4: It was full subterfuge, which makes it even more gay. 1360 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 1361 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 5: I had someone send me the Craigslist and I was like, 1362 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 5: you should do this because it seems funny, and I 1363 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,919 Speaker 5: was like, okay, So me and my friend just kind 1364 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 5: of like concocted we have like a real conflict that 1365 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,439 Speaker 5: we exaggerated for the show, and then we've all met 1366 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 5: on Skype during COVID and he is an ilegal. 1367 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 3: Judge, so but he can be a mediator. So he 1368 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 3: was able to kind of like preside over the conflict 1369 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 3: and give us some hips. And the conclusion that he 1370 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 3: came to is that my friend was just in love 1371 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 3: with me and that's why her dog shat in my room. 1372 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Oh wow, sounds pretty accurate. 1373 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Was he right? 1374 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? He is never wrong whatever he says. I just 1375 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 3: allowed to. 1376 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 1377 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, how I feel like we're we're in final thoughts mode, 1378 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: final thoughts about laws, rules and the sexuality thereof. 1379 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 3: Laws. 1380 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,520 Speaker 4: Laws off my terrifying, terrifying genital. 1381 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Actually that's a great sign. Laws off my terrifying, terrifying genitalia. 1382 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 4: And like I'm but I'm pro rules, Like let's talk. 1383 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to say no running in the pool, 1384 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 2: like you're gonna slip and you're gonna fall, you're gonna. 1385 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 4: Hurt yourself, but there's no law against it. 1386 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 1: So yeah. And also don't go don't go in the 1387 01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 1: pool if you have diarrhea. 1388 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, again that's that's a fuck around and find out 1389 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 6: and when you enter into those spaces, there's like an 1390 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 6: implicit CONSENTDA, Like these are pool rules. They're not laws, Like, 1391 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 6: no one's coming to like haul you away. 1392 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,640 Speaker 2: They will blow that little whistle. Yeah, there will be 1393 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 2: some public shaming, but blow the whistle. 1394 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 1: Okay. 1395 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 3: My final thought is no laws, just the bumper stickers 1396 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 3: that say grass gas or ass nobody rides free. 1397 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 1: Love that period, Yeah, love that all right. 1398 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: That's my constitution. 1399 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, also, before we go and before we do our 1400 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 2: final segment, you are both you're going on tour. Please 1401 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,799 Speaker 2: oh yeah, tell everyone where you are going? Yes, please? 1402 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Well, and when. 1403 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 6: Going to Chicago on January seventeenth, we're going to the 1404 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,560 Speaker 6: City on Fire on which is LA on the nineteenth 1405 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 6: if and we're probably we'll see what happens. And then 1406 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 6: we're going to San Francisco on the twenty fourth or 1407 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 6: sketch Fest. 1408 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 4: Am I forgetting? 1409 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 3: Oh it's everything. Oh we had the kickoff show on 1410 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 3: the fifteenth. 1411 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 6: I come on everybody late show because the first show 1412 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 6: sold out? So get when is this going to come in? 1413 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,839 Speaker 1: It's coming out on Tuesday. 1414 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 6: Perfect, Okay, So preparing this, buy tickets to our show 1415 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 6: tomorrow in New York City, And if you're anywhere else, 1416 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 6: break some laws. 1417 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: And tickets can be found in Lincoln by great the 1418 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: dice situation, and we will there's going to be some tagging. 1419 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 1: You're going to be able to find that Lincoln bio folks. 1420 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 4: You will, folks. 1421 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 6: Just break one law today, Yeah, break I encourage one. 1422 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 4: Write about it, like, write about it in a letter. 1423 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 1: We need to get all show up to Spike on 1424 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 1: Honey Show without a ticket and then beat up the guy, 1425 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: the guy at the door and just walk in. 1426 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 5: Yeah different, definitely, Well ticket ticket buying is more of. 1427 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: A rule than a law. 1428 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a rule. 1429 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: That's true. 1430 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 4: That's true because there's always list. 1431 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: But totally wow, Okay, incredible, let's do it. Our final 1432 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: segment is called shout outs, and in this segment we 1433 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: pay homage to the classic straight tradition, straight oral tradition, 1434 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: even of the radio shout out. You're on Z one hundred, 1435 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: you're on t L shouting out something that you just 1436 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: cannot get enough of, and uh as this tradition, we 1437 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: make them up on the spot. Sam, do you have one? 1438 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 2: I actually do have one. 1439 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Go for it. 1440 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 2: What's up freaks, losers and sexual perverts around the globe. 1441 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout out to George 1442 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 2: Michael's father, Figure. 1443 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1444 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 2: I love this song and I saw Baby Girl much 1445 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 2: like many of my peers in the LGBTQ plus community. 1446 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 2: And while I thought it was not very good shout 1447 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 2: out to the film I did, it did remind me 1448 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 2: that Father Figure by George Michael. It's a really good 1449 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 2: song and I can't stop listening to it. It's always 1450 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,640 Speaker 2: stuck in my and it's that thing of like I 1451 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 2: know that people have been like, actually, like George Michael 1452 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 2: is actually really really good, and I've been like yeay, yeah, whatever, 1453 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 2: and now I'm like, damn, this shit hits. It's sort 1454 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 2: of like not to be a bitch, not to pit 1455 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 2: gay men against each other, but it's kind of choice 1456 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 2: of I'm down dead in a ditch. There's something about 1457 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: like like where it's like, oh, he's been like nasty 1458 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 2: and horny forever. We're treating like gay pop like it's 1459 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 2: a whole new thing, and it's like, no, sweetie, it's 1460 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 2: been happening forever. And I'm finding it so comforting. I'm 1461 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 2: finding it so catchy and then finding it so fun 1462 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 2: and it makes me feel like it's time to look 1463 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 2: back and experience new past. Shout out George Michael. Shout 1464 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 2: out a father figure. Put my tiny hand in yours, daddy, 1465 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,600 Speaker 2: xoxo say it. 1466 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Who Okay, I can go, I'll do. I'll do a 1467 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 1: movie one too. We're in letterbox mode today. Okay, folks, 1468 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to the actor 1469 01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum. You know, he's easy to overlook because you're 1470 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: sort of like, oh right, you like used to be 1471 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: a stripper and magic Mike, and you're sort of a meathead. 1472 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most interesting actors in 1473 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood right now. I recently watched Logan Lucky, which I 1474 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 1: hadn't seen before, absolutely stunning performance. I watched the Zoe 1475 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Kravitz film Blink twice. Terrible movie, great work from Channing. 1476 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: I think he has such a as he's aged, he's 1477 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:26,600 Speaker 1: agent to this very fascinating look that is like meatthead, 1478 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: meats like just like a neck, that is a person, 1479 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,679 Speaker 1: and he is so he's very much like a character 1480 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: actor trapped in a leading man's body, trapped in a 1481 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: plumber's body. And I think there's a lot of talk 1482 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: about like Hollywood doesn't have interesting faces anymore. And I 1483 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 1: feel like people talk about Adrian Brody being someone who 1484 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: has an interesting face. And it's like, you don't have 1485 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 1: to be skinny like Adrian Burder to have an interesting face. 1486 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: You can be sort of meathead looking like Channing Tatum 1487 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and have an interesting face. And so I just think 1488 01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: we need to do a little more with him. And 1489 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 1: I'm very with this work. I think he's so talented, 1490 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: and I am gonna name my son Channing in his honor. 1491 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Shout out to Channing Tatum. 1492 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 2: George, I have to did you see Deadpool and Wolverine? No, 1493 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 2: because Channing Tatum gives a comedic performance that is genuinely 1494 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 2: so funny in such a subtle, weird way where you're like, damn, 1495 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 2: he's really got it. 1496 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 1: He is one of our great geniuses. 1497 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of our most genius geniuses. Okay, Spike 1498 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 2: or Honey. If I don't, I'm not gonna say who 1499 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: should go first? Design amongst yourselves. 1500 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 3: I'll go first, Okay. Shout out to Ood. Shout out 1501 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 3: to Ood. 1502 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 5: The fragrance notes, Oh, oh Ud, I've been, you know, 1503 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 5: developing my signature scent. I've been walking through the journey 1504 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 5: of how I want to hit people's noses when I 1505 01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 5: enter a room. 1506 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 3: So out out to Ud because it's masculine. It kind 1507 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 3: of smells like poop. 1508 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 5: It's kind of awesome to small a little fecal when 1509 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 5: you realize that there's actually an entire world of dominance, 1510 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 5: power and magic that can be available to you if 1511 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 5: you remind people of anal sex anytime you kind of 1512 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,520 Speaker 5: enter into a space with them. That is what empires 1513 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 5: have been built and then crumbled upon. So I think 1514 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 5: it's important to really remember that that is there. 1515 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 3: So shout out to Ude and smiling a little bit 1516 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 3: like woody poop. 1517 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Whoa, that's wait, this is genius. And I also want 1518 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to say I've actually shouted out this on the podcast 1519 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: before a bit. So my friend and past guests of 1520 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the podcast, Tammy Tackle Mariam once wrote she's a food 1521 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 1: writer and she once wrote a piece about which wine 1522 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,679 Speaker 1: to pair with eating ass, and she described the taste 1523 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 1: of ass as gamey, which I had never considered before 1524 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 1: and is so obvious. And since then I have been like, 1525 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 1: this is such a gastronomical experience, and your absfinite that like, 1526 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: we can re eroticize facality, we just have to try. 1527 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 3: And I also think that if we want. 1528 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: To that sicks so true. What what? What? 1529 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,719 Speaker 6: There was sodomy laws because they wanted to take away 1530 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 6: the gamy, the glow of eating ass. 1531 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 5: Yes and to all be good anti fascists. We need 1532 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,520 Speaker 5: to make sure that sodomy and being good sodomites are ours, 1533 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 5: that we, you know, define that for ourselves, that it 1534 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 5: isn't just taken by the pederastic lords that haunt us. 1535 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 6: Nobody talks about how like everyone's like sodom and Gomora 1536 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 6: likes whatever. It's like they had amazing art scenes in 1537 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 6: those cities. 1538 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 3: No one talks about that exactly. They were turning up. 1539 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Spike, what's up everybody out there in Tinseltown. 1540 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 6: I want to give a shout out to my birthplace, 1541 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 6: Los Angeles. I know what you are thinking when you 1542 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 6: look at me, that guy's from LA. I people often 1543 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 6: tell me all the time, you don't seem like you're 1544 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,600 Speaker 6: from LA. 1545 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 1546 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 6: It means that the popular opinion of someone from LA 1547 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 6: is that they suck. That's not all the way completely true. 1548 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 6: That's only a little true, and it's not true in 1549 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 6: this case. I love Los Angeles. It is one of 1550 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 6: the most iconic places in the world. There is no 1551 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 6: place like it. I love New York, but Los Angeles 1552 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 6: is a cultural epicenter. It made our imaginations what they are, 1553 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 6: and I just love it so much. And the next 1554 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 6: time you think I don't seem like I'm from LA, 1555 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 6: it's because you are saying that I seem Jewish, which 1556 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 6: you equate. 1557 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 4: From with being in New York. 1558 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 1559 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 6: Oh quick, last shout out to Blood Smells good, tastes good. 1560 01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, pop, honey, I can't. 1561 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 4: Believe I'm so upset that we're talking about. 1562 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Also, like graphic design wise, you know they both have 1563 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: two o's. You could so easily do it, sort of 1564 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: like fun blood and poop logo. That's true. 1565 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 2: Also, Spike, I do think people thinking you're not from 1566 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: LA shows like a misunderstand, like people don't know what 1567 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 2: LA is. Yeah I am. 1568 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 4: I'm incredibly haunted. 1569 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 6: I'm incredibly like old and scary, and yet everybody wants 1570 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 6: a piece. People come there thinking there to me think 1571 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 6: they're going to find themselves. They realize just how lost 1572 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 6: they are, and they tremble in my wake. I am 1573 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 6: too powerful for them, and that is exactly why I'm 1574 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 6: like Los Angeles. And I'm also a fun, fun, fun 1575 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 6: surfer boy till my daddy took my t bird away. 1576 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 2: Well see Spike and Honey on tour. And also we're 1577 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 2: going to be in San Francisco on the seventeenth of 1578 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 2: January from Sketch Fest. 1579 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 4: Sam's on the show. 1580 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:04,759 Speaker 2: And I'm on the show in La on the nineteenth. 1581 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, day before the inauguration, day before the audation. 1582 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 2: Damn all right, y'all. Wow, Well, thanks so this has 1583 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 2: been a real treat. 1584 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:17,440 Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having us lovell laws by Bye bye. 1585 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Podcast and now want more. 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