WEBVTT - S1: EP 22 — “"They Were Watching Me" 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.200 Test test. Oh oh, thank god. I have been trying 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.119 to get this thing to turn on for hours. Something 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.840 is really wrong, you guys. My producer Len, mumbley, kind 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.240 of forgettable guy. He's gone! Usually when I get to 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.879 the studio he's already here, pushing buttons and I don't know, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.559 adjusting things. It's not that I need him. I mean, 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:40.760 now that we're up and running, I'm more than capable 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.839 of producing the show myself. I pretty much do all 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.440 the work around here anyway. I guess I'm just used 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.440 to having him here. Hopefully nothing bad happened. It's fine, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.960 it's fine, he's fine. I'm fine. He's probably just haunting 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.279 a board game convention or whatever nerd stuff he gets 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.000 up to when we're not working. Such an odd little man. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:05.000 Let's just get started. Our first story today is from Emma. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.280 When her boyfriend and his best friend moved into his 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.399 best friend's childhood home, things started getting weird, and not 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:17.399 hooking up with your boyfriend's best friend weird, like actually weird. See, normally, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.880 Len would have like a random off putting sound effect 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.640 to punctuate that. This is throwing off my flow. Merlin, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.280 go find him. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.920 I was taking a shower. I hear David come into 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:38.160 the room and close the door behind him. I waited 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.720 for him to start talking to me, but he didn't, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.680 so I peeked out and there was nobody in there, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.240 but I still felt like I wasn't alone. Who or 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.960 what was in the bathroom with me? My name is Emma. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.560 My name is David. Emma is my girlfriend. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:08.840 And my boyfriend's house was haunted. In 2017, my boyfriend, David, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.080 and his best friend had been living together in an 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.800 apartment for several years. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.600 Me and my roommate, Corey, lived in an apartment together 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:23.920 and his parents were retiring so they were moving out. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.040 At the time, our apartment lease was coming to a close, 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.160 so they offered us an opportunity to live there. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.760 It was a ranch style, one story, very small house. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.920 The living room was on the east side of the 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.840 house and on the west side was the kitchen and 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.079 the dining room. It had two bedrooms that were later 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:50.160 remodeled into one main bedroom and then a bedroom downstairs 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:55.000 in the basement. That basement was Corey's childhood bedroom, so 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.760 he gave David the master room. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.480 We offered to work on the house, so I went 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.160 in there like a wrecking ball, and I completely changed 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.240 a lot of things. I ripped out all the carpet, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:16.520 stripped all the walls, painted rooms. I was tearing things 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.160 up before I even spent one night. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.800 David and I had been together for six years. I 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.480 was living at my mom's house, but spent most of 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.280 my time when I wasn't at work over at the 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.880 house hanging out with the boys. I was over there 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.920 six days a week at least. So one day, while 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.240 Corey and David were not at the house, David had 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.760 asked me to go over to change out his laundry 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:49.000 so that he could look nice for date night. So 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.520 I got to the house in the middle of the 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.200 afternoon and I walked in and went straight down to 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.800 the basement. Our two year old dog, Colton was at 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:02.280 the house, and Colton followed me down there, but he 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.720 stopped at the bottom of the stairs. He didn't want 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:11.160 to go further into the basement. Colton was David's dog, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.520 but he was very protective of me, and if anybody 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.480 made me feel unsafe, he would protect me. I thought 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.080 it was weird that Colton just stayed at the bottom 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.839 of the stairs rather than following me into the laundry 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.800 room like he usually would, but he made sure to 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.200 stay in a spot in which he could see me, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.840 as like to protect me. I could feel like that 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.679 Colton felt uneasy about being down there, but I can't 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.200 blame him too much because the vibe of the basement 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:42.560 was very unwelcoming. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.040 It's a very spooky, unfinished basement. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:54.200 The stairs were wooden and creaky. There was linoleum floor peeling. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:05:01.120 It was dark, it was musty. I always got weird 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.960 vibes down there, and I just felt the sensation that 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:12.800 somebody was watching me. There was always a cold presence 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.560 downstairs that gave the vibes like I didn't belong in 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:22.000 the house or in the basement. This isn't my house, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.680 this isn't David's house. This is somebody else's house. And 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:34.039 it felt like this presence didn't want us there. I 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.200 went into the laundry room. I opened the door to 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.119 the dryer, took the dry clothes out of the dryer, 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.640 put them into a laundry basket. I opened the door 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.120 to the washing machine, took the wet clothes out of 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.040 the washer, put them into the dryer. I turned the 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:57.000 dryer on and I grabbed the laundry basket. I turn around. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:01.680 Colton is still at the bottom of the stairs, watching me, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.919 waiting for me to be done in this creepy basement. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:13.360 We're going back upstairs. Colton bolted up the stairs, and 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:19.839 about six steps up, I feel a tug on my 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.599 right hip, as if my shorts got snagged on the railing. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.479 I stopped and looked around the basement and behind me 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:35.680 to see what happened. I realized that my shorts had 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.240 been pulled halfway down my hip, and my shorts didn't 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.680 have any physical evidence that anything happened. No hole, no snag. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.200 It felt like there was a presence that just wanted 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.039 to make itself known to me that it sees me, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.680 and it knows that I'm there, Almost like it was 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.520 trying to say, you don't belong down here in the basement, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:09.800 go back to where you're supposed to be. I felt 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.120 the need to just get out of the house. I 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.480 continued up the stairs and put the laundry basket on 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:22.320 the kitchen table. Colton was laying on the couch in 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.200 the living room, acting like nothing had happened. I grabbed 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.600 my stuff, said my goodbyes to him, walked out the 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.280 front door, locked the door behind me, got in my car, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.480 sat there for a second wondering what happened, and I 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.160 decided I just needed to put distance between me and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:46.640 the house, so I drove home. I tried not to 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:52.280 think about that incident again until a few months later. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.600 On a Saturday, David, Corey, and I were all at 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.160 the house hanging out. The boys were sitting in the 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.440 living room watching baseball. I decided to take a shower, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.760 so I went into the master bedroom and closed the 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:15.200 door behind me. I went into the bathroom, turned on 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.480 the water. I get in the shower and I start 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:24.880 washing my hair, and all of a sudden, I hear 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.560 the door squeak open, and then I hear David come 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:35.200 into the room and close the door behind him. I 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:40.319 waited for him to start talking to me, and nothing came, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:45.320 but I still felt the presence that I wasn't alone. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.840 So I looked out the shower to see what he 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:55.000 was doing in the room, but I was completely alone. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.880 Nobody had come into the room. I tried brushing it off. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.520 I just continued my shower as normal, but I still 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.520 felt like I was being watched. I finished up my 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.840 shower and I got dressed. I noticed that the door 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:18.920 was still closed, as if nothing had happened. I headed 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.199 out to the living room, where Corey and David were 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.640 watching the game. I looked at David and I go, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.120 did you come into the bedroom for anything? And he 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.600 got a really confused expression on his face. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.240 We didn't move the entire time she was in the shower. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.440 We were just watching the game. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:46.000 I told them what I experienced, and they just brushed 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.560 it off. Oh you probably just felt like you heard 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:57.760 the door open and close, like okay, gaslighting 101. What 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.640 would have made the door open and close its own? 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.640 I couldn't find any explanation for it. I knew that 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:11.280 something was watching me. David was always a skeptic and 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:15.480 brushed off any paranormal experience I had until one day 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.120 he was home alone and experienced something himself. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.040 I was in the master bedroom by myself, looking in 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.880 my closet for a shirt. My work schedule was completely 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.960 different than my roommate, so I was home when he wasn't, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:42.319 and out of nowhere I heard Hey. It sounded as 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:47.480 if someone was right behind me in my ear. And 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.800 I got chills on the back of my spine. Emma 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:58.360 was not present, Corey was not present. It was clear 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:03.160 as day. It wasn't like an old, wretched voice. It 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:10.440 was like a middle aged female voice. I turn around, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:19.640 nobody's there. I go out and I look around. Nobody's there. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.880 There's nobody in the house. There wasn't a TV on, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.640 there wasn't a radio on. I didn't have any windows open. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.679 It sat on me all day. I kept thinking, I 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.839 literally heard Hey in my ear behind me while I 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:43.559 was by myself. My mother was over visiting, and I 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.840 wouldn't say as a clairvoyant of any means, but she 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.280 tells me all the time she has, you know, these 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:56.520 connections with the other side. I've always just grown up 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.720 thought my mom was a little out there, but I 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.920 remember vividly going to my grandfather's grave and she would 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.360 tell me he's here, and then the wind chimes would 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:13.440 start chiming right next to his grave. So I brought 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.160 this up to my mom when she was visiting. I 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.360 wanted to talk about it. I said, Hey, I know 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.280 this is a little out there, but this is what's 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.679 going on. This is what Emma's told me that has 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:31.760 happened to her, and my mom started walking around the 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:36.520 house talking to whatever entity or whatever it may be. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.440 "This is my son. He's a good man. My son 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:45.840 means no harm. He is here temporarily. Please leave him alone, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:52.120 Please leave his girlfriend alone." I remember, you know, following 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.800 my mom around, and I was almost smiling. I'm like, 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:59.959 I can't believe she's doing this. But nothing happened after that. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:07.120 This definitely changed his perspective on the paranormal and supernatural. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.840 I completely changed a lot of things. I don't know 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.600 if maybe that disturbed things. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.040 I felt like they were seeing all the renovations being 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.960 done to the house and they just didn't like that. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.120 I was only in the house for two years. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.640 Even after we did all that work, they were unable 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.000 to sell the house. I believe it got foreclosed on. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:39.360 Till this day, it sits vacant. That house has something 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:40.320 weird about it. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.480 I don't know who or what could have been causing 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.640 these experiences, but they were not happy with David and 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.319 I being in their space. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.360 Gaslight your girlfriend and then run to your mom. Len, at 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.560 what age do men learn that women are always right? Oh, yeah, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.720 Len's not here. Well, I don't blame those ghosts for 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.960 making a scene. I'd be pissed too if someone moved 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.560 into my house and started knocking down walls, unless it 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.080 was Tony. He's the best contractor I've ever had. He 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.640 did all my fountains, indoors and out. Anyway, the spirit's 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.800 won in the end. They got what they wanted, an 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:30.160 empty home. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.520 Merlin didn't have any luck finding Len, and as much 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.440 as I hate to admit it, I'm actually starting to worry. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.000 So listeners help me out here. If Len's on a 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.320 little haunting escapade, you might be able to sense his presence. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.080 Not all of you are tuned to the other side, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:54.520 so I'll walk you through it. Close your eyes now, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:59.200 take a deep breath in for four and out for four. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.080 Make sure your feet are planted firmly on the ground, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:12.240 and focus on your breathing. Once your mind starts to clear, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.240 you're going to pay attention to any energies you might 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:22.080 be sensing that are not your own. Good. Now, the 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.560 feeling you're looking for is sort of a familiar discomfort, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.280 like that tight lipped smile you give a coworker in 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.360 the office, or when somebody catches you drinking a full 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.600 fat latte, or like a stinky cheese before you realize 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.560 what you're smelling is cheese. If you're hitting on any 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.080 of those, let us know on our socials at Glass 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:45.440 Podcasts with the hashtag #FindLen. If that lucky son of 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:50.960 a bitch crossed over, I will kill him! Anyway, while 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.480 we wait, let's move on to our second story, which, 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.080 by the way, Len would love because it's a really 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.000 scary one about a bunch of creepy lurkers. But whatever 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.600 his loss. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.880 I grew up in northwest Indiana, and there was so 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.200 much death in that area. In the eighteen hundreds when 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.480 there were early settlers, there was a river that ran 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.720 through the neighborhood and there was a settler's camp that 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.560 got flooded at one point and it killed like the 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.680 entire camp. And then in the early nineteen hundreds to 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.800 about the 1930s, caddy corner to our house was a 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.280 city dump and there were dead bodies being dumped was 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.520 causing diseases, and there were a lot of people dying 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:39.320 in the neighborhood. My name is Mary, and I grew 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:44.360 up with ghosts in the alley. The house I grew 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.520 up in was an old house built in like 1909, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.080 and it was a two story stucco gray house. We 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:58.120 had a small one car garage, and then alongside the 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.480 garage was the backyard. It went and met the back 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.280 of the house. Made like a square. Around the backyard 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.639 was a chain link fence. You could see through the 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.760 fence and see all the neighbors houses around you, but 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.520 it was the back of everyone's houses, so you could 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.400 see their garages and their backyards, and then you could 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.840 see the alleyway with the trash cans and stuff like 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:28.240 you would expect. When I was a little girl, when 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.359 my mother was busy doing things in the house that 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.120 she didn't want children under her feet for, she would 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.240 send us outside to play in the backyard. The kitchen 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.439 was right there, so she would still be able to 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.840 supervise us and to get to us if we needed her, 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.159 but we could also just play and just not be 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.160 bothering her while she's trying to cook dinner or wash 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.240 the dishes or clean the house. We were never out 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.919 there more than an hour, just long enough for her 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.880 to do whatever she was doing. My sister, who's four 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.399 years older than me, we would play barbies and all 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.320 kinds of fun toys out there, but I was terrified 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.320 of the backyard, so I would cry and cry and 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.240 tell my mom that I was scared to be back 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.800 there because I could see people walking up and down 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:17.480 the alleyway and I didn't know who they were. The 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.640 people would look scary. They'd be dirty, they would be bleeding, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.359 or they'd look really old, wearing older clothes like they 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.600 were from a long time ago. And they never spoke 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.800 to me. They were just walking back and forth. When 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.000 my sister was there, when we were playing, I would 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.040 be able to ignore the people in the alley. But 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.280 when my sister would leave me to grab a toy 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.960 or go to the bathroom and I was by myself, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.399 they would start walking and coming closer to me, like 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.879 they were all congregating to the backyard. I didn't know 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.080 who they were, and I didn't want to be out 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:57.520 there with them. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.560 I mentioned it several times to my parents, but no 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.600 one else could see the scary people except for me. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.320 They would be like, there's no one in the alley, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.840 No one ever walks up and down the alley. I 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.320 don't know what you're seeing. It's just your imagination. I 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.880 told my sister, and I'd say, you know, Sissy, look 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.480 there's this person over there, and she'd be like, I 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:24.960 don't see anybody. One particular time, there was a man 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.040 crouched in the bushes near my neighbor's house. My neighbor 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.400 had a crazy yard. They had bushes that were really 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.000 overgrown and went halfway into the alley and I could 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.359 see a man crouched in the bushes. I ended up 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.280 grabbing my sister and being like, Sissy, there's a man 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.560 in the bushes. Do you see him? And she said, no, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.320 there's no one in the bushes. I don't see anyone. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.359 My parents never believed me, and my sister didn't see 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.920 them either. No one took me seriously. They all thought 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.320 I was telling stories or making things up. But I 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.760 know they were there and they were real. 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.120 I was very scared of them, so I just kind 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.760 of dealt with it and would cry. One day, it 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.480 was particularly bad, my sister had been inside a little 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.879 bit longer than she usually was. I was having an 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.840 absolute meltdown when my dad got home from work. As 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.240 soon as his car pulled into the driveway, I ran 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:32.440 out to him and I was just bawling and bawling, crying, "Daddy! Daddy!" 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.960 He could see that I was really upset. He picked 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.600 me up and hugged me and all that. Took me 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.360 inside and told me to play with my toys while 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:48.080 my mother finished up dinner. We all had dinner at 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.399 the table. By then it was pretty late, so my 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:57.960 mom and dad had us go to bed. The next 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.560 day was just a normal day. My mom, as usual, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.240 sends us out to the backyard, and to my surprise, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.080 I wasn't able to see anyone walking up and down 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:14.240 the alley. There were no scary people, nothing. I was 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.800 so used to seeing them, but for some reason that 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.439 day I couldn't. A little bit later, after we had 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.800 been playing for a while, my sister went in to 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.760 go to the bathroom. I was by myself, and I 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:32.560 noticed a woman walking down the alley. She was an 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.800 older woman, looked like my grandmother's age, and the first 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.280 thing I noticed was that she had a beautiful long 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.200 dress on and a smile on her face. She had 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.359 beautiful gray hair that was pulled back in a bun, 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.639 and she just looked so sweet and so nice and 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.760 so kind. This was the first time I saw someone 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.240 in the alley that I wasn't scared of. She just 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.199 had a loving vibe to her. I knew that she 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:04.560 wasn't someone to be scared of. She was walking pretty 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.119 slowly down the alley. When she reached the back gate, 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:13.919 she called me over. She leaned over and said, "Sweetheart, 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.119 I see you're scared of the people in the alley." 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.000 And I said, "yeah, I don't like them because they're scary." 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.600 And she said, "that's okay. I made them go away. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.760 You'll never see them again." And she turned around and 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.960 she kept walking down the alley, and after a while 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:32.280 she just kind of disappeared and I didn't see her 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:38.440 after that. My sister came back outside and we played 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:43.080 for the rest of the afternoon, and there was nothing there. 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.560 It was really nice. We had a great time. My 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.600 dad came home from work later that day. We went 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.160 in and did our usual dinner and then go to bed. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.159 After that day, I never saw anything in the alley again. 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:02.560 It wasn't until about 20 years later when my mom 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.640 passed away. I was helping my dad go through all 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.960 of her things and go through some old photos. She 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:17.120 just had a big plastic tub filled to the brim with photographs, 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.320 and we were trying to decide what we wanted to 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.879 do with them. As we were going through the photos, 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.560 I came across one of an older woman. She had 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.600 a beautiful smile and long gray hair that was pulled 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.520 back into a big bun. I kind of made a 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.520 noise like I was shocked, and then my dad looked 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.640 over and he goes, "oh, yeah, I think that's your 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.520 Grandma Moore." So I flipped it over and it did 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.480 say Grandma Moore and it was dated from like the 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.560 early nineteen hundreds. She died long before I was born, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:56.040 but I had heard stories about her growing up. I 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.040 turned to my dad and I said, "Dad, do you 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.359 remember when I was and I was scared of the 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.760 people in the alley" And he said, "yeah, I remember that." 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.480 And I said "do you remember when I told you 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.000 a mom that the nice lady made the scary people 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.960 go away?" And he said "yeah, I remember that." And 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.040 I said, "well, Dad, this was a lady from the 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.560 alley that made the scary people go away." Grandma Moore 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:24.480 was the woman I saw in the alley. After I 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.760 told him that, Dad said, well, I don't believe in 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:31.720 this stuff, but your mom and I did pray for 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.679 you that night to make the scary thing in the 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:38.440 alley go away. I was really shocked. I had never 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:42.360 met Grandma Moore so I was surprised that that would 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.520 have been the person that came through and helped me 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.280 in that situation. So as an adult, I can look 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.480 back at that and realize I was probably seeing ghosts 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:56.560 as a child, and then Grandma Moore made them go away. 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.959 Okay, another story that deep down is about gaslighting. If 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.920 your girlfriend is telling you the house is haunted, believe her. 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.040 And if your child is telling you there's a horde 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.440 of blood covered turn of the century zombie shuffling through 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.119 your alley every day, believe her too. Believe women really 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.879 is what it comes down to. Let's take a break. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.000 There's still no sign of Len and we didn't get 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.760 any leads from our listeners. Maybe he's really gone for good. 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.359 I'm having confusing feelings. 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.480 [MUMBLES] 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.040 Len! Oh my god, you're here. Thank god. I wasn't 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.160 sure if something had happened, or maybe you'd crossed over 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:45.200 [MUMBLES] 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:47.680 I was really nervous. 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:50.920 [MUMBLES] 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:56.320 Missed you? No, no, you can't just not show up 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.239 to work. It's unprofessional and it's not my job to 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.280 know what all these buttons do. I mean, I do 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.879 know what they do, but I don't like pressing them. 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:10.000 Just don't do that again, okay? And where were you anyway? 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:10.760 [MUMBLES] 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.920 Haunting a board game convention and you lost track of time 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.840 at the D and D table. You are so predictable. 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.713 I can't believe I was actually worried. Well, that's our episode. 0:26:22.713 --> 0:26:25.199 Len's back just in time to stop the recording, and 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.760 I need a massage to recover from carrying the entire 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.119 show on my back. If you've got a scary story 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:37.240 to share, email Len or I guess me at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com. 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.840 We'll see you next time. Where were you really though? 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.320 You've been acting so weird lately. 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:42.359 [MUMBLES] 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.920 It's just alarming when you're not where you always are. 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.320 You're always here. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.000 [MUMBLES]. 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.400