Speaker 1: What's that at the bed.
Speaker 2: It's spookyoky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I said, biros Dress, Hey boo, it's me Roz.
Speaker 1: How you doing. I cannot believe it's truly been like
Speaker 1: almost a year of the pandemic. The last Ghosted live
Speaker 1: show was on the seventh of March last year, and
Speaker 1: it was just such a beautiful night. And I remember,
Speaker 1: of course, we were all talking about COVID at the time,
Speaker 1: the coronavirus, and there was in the back of my
Speaker 1: mind like should we should we be doing this? But
Speaker 1: it was still not like on lockdown yet, And then
Speaker 1: I think, like, I don't know, was it the next
Speaker 1: week or whenever when it was really like okay. Luckily,
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, nobody got ill when we were doing
Speaker 1: the live show. But I just can't believe it's been
Speaker 1: a full year. And you know, as I kind of
Speaker 1: gave a speech when we hit the two year mark
Speaker 1: of this podcast in January, I am just so so
Speaker 1: grateful that all of you have continued to listen as
Speaker 1: I've had to figure out with my crew at Starburns Audio,
Speaker 1: you know, how to record this from home and just
Speaker 1: we've been doing our best, and I think we've had
Speaker 1: some wonderful shows this past year. And now it's like
Speaker 1: this thing I do from home in my living room,
Speaker 1: and it's almost become very normal, but it's still we're
Speaker 1: still doing it, and I'm I'm still so happy to
Speaker 1: do it, and I just I just love you guys
Speaker 1: so much, and I'm you know, I've started doing Patreon
Speaker 1: during this, and you guys have been so supportive, and
Speaker 1: I always appreciate when you do that and that you
Speaker 1: guys are here for it, and so thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I was actually thinking I should read some
Speaker 1: five star reviews. I haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 1: So let's take a look. Oh my god, I love this.
Speaker 1: Kissipher ninety nine wrote boxes Colin checked this got me
Speaker 1: right off. The picture of Roz like an old paperback cover.
Speaker 1: The theme song, then the stories. Love it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: J U l I. E. Julie wrote fun Way to
Speaker 1: Pass Time. This podcast is the best intro song out there.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. That is so nice. Thank you. Tornado Gang
Speaker 1: Underscore yt writes New Listener loves this podcast. I just
Speaker 1: started listening to Ghosted a week ago and it's my
Speaker 1: new favorite podcast. There are a lot of podcasts out
Speaker 1: there that talk about ghosts and other paranormal things, and
Speaker 1: this one is the best. I love How Ross Talks.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. It's funny, enjoyable to listen to, and
Speaker 1: a great interviewer, keeps me entertained while I drive, do
Speaker 1: the laundry, take walks with my dog, etc. It's well
Speaker 1: worth your time to check it out. Thank you. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, these are all so nice. Thank you everyone.
Speaker 1: And you know this is always a great place that
Speaker 1: you can leave me a ghost story to read. So
Speaker 1: let me look. What are some ghost stories we got here?
Speaker 1: This one is from at Mara Moulan on Apple Podcasts.
Speaker 1: They wrote, love the podcast. Here's one of my dad's
Speaker 1: ghost stories that keeps me up at night. My dad
Speaker 1: has a hard time sleeping. He is often up at
Speaker 1: all hours of the night. One night, he was in
Speaker 1: his bed when he heard a child call out, Hey,
Speaker 1: can somebody help me? He thinks this voice sounded like
Speaker 1: it belonged to an eleven year old girl, which did
Speaker 1: not match either my brother or I at the time.
Speaker 1: He gets up and comes to the living room where
Speaker 1: the voice was. He turns on the light to find
Speaker 1: that the kitchen and living room was empty with the
Speaker 1: TV off. He goes to the room right off the
Speaker 1: living room to find me dead asleep. He goes down
Speaker 1: the hall to my brother's room and again he was asleep.
Speaker 1: As he was in the hallway, he hears again a
Speaker 1: child call out, Hey, can somebody help me? Okay, I
Speaker 1: added the attitude with a there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of attitude the way I said it, Hey can somebody
Speaker 1: help me? Clearly coming from the living room. When he
Speaker 1: comes in, the room is completely empty. He checked the
Speaker 1: house again and no one had come in. He was
Speaker 1: the only one awake, and there was no explanation for
Speaker 1: the child's voice, no TV radio, nothing, Oh who is
Speaker 1: that kid? Help that child? Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: sending me that. And guys, if you could please give
Speaker 1: me a five star rating and if you would like
Speaker 1: to leave a review, that would be lovely on Apple
Speaker 1: podcast and you can send me a ghost story there
Speaker 1: and I would love to read it on the show.
Speaker 1: So thank you all so much for that. Also, something
Speaker 1: I probably could have talked about last week, but the
Speaker 1: show was kind of long and so I kept it
Speaker 1: kind of quick. But there was this UFO sighting that
Speaker 1: happened on an American Airlines flight from Cincinnati to Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and the pilot made a call saying that there was
Speaker 1: he described it. He said, it looked like a crew
Speaker 1: missile type thing that was moving super fast right over
Speaker 1: the plane. And it seems like something and it made
Speaker 1: a lot of headlines last week, So check that out.
Speaker 1: I find it to be a very interesting story. And
Speaker 1: on today's show, I have got a dear friend, someone
Speaker 1: that I admire very much and have known for a
Speaker 1: number of years. We've done some fun, silly things. We
Speaker 1: used to do stand up shows together and our Casita
Speaker 1: del Campo shows and he's just so great. And if
Speaker 1: you don't know Alec Mapa, he's one of those people that, like,
Speaker 1: if you just google Alec Mapa, you'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my God, of course. And if you want to look
Speaker 1: at his IMDb, make sure that whatever device you are
Speaker 1: looking at it on it is charged and plugged in
Speaker 1: to the wall, because you'll be growing for a long time.
Speaker 1: And actually it was announced this week that Alec is
Speaker 1: actually going to be joining the cast of a new
Speaker 1: ABC comedy series starring Alec Baldwin and Kelsey Grammer and
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that I finally was able to get
Speaker 1: him on here, and he's got some stories. So I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoy this episode with Alec Mapa. Oh and
Speaker 1: if you want to go to Patreon this week, Alec
Speaker 1: is talking with me about some dream stuff when we
Speaker 1: talk about astral projection, and we talk about this time
Speaker 1: when he was kind, yeah, like having what I've learned
Speaker 1: now from doing a little bit more research. I guess
Speaker 1: people say out of body experience instead of astral projection.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he was having like an out
Speaker 1: of body sleep thing going on, and also a very
Speaker 1: vivid dream that might have been like a past life
Speaker 1: thing that he had. So let's say my second tier
Speaker 1: of Patreon and my first tier of Patreon is me
Speaker 1: talking about eBay dolls because it's that time of the month. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Alec Mapa on with the show. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I am joined by television's Alec Mapa. How
Speaker 1: are you hi?
Speaker 2: Everybody? It's all for you, Damien.
Speaker 1: It has been so long. I haven't seen you in forever.
Speaker 1: I have before time, I seriously, and I've wanted you
Speaker 1: on this podcast for a long time. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember this, But there was a point when
Speaker 1: you were going to do one of our live shows.
Speaker 1: Something came up, but you were gonna do it at
Speaker 1: Casita del Campo, which is.
Speaker 2: Like I was, and I couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: I talk about that place it feels like every single
Speaker 1: episode because people, you know, I've had all of our
Speaker 1: friends that we do shows with their and you know
Speaker 1: some of them report ghost stuff happening there. Did you
Speaker 1: ever have anything there happening?
Speaker 2: Nothing at Casa del Campo? I did work at. I
Speaker 2: did did shoot a pilot at Magic Castle. I was
Speaker 2: part of a you know, I'm I'm the Queen of
Speaker 2: Dalist celebrity reality shows and I was did one for
Speaker 2: v H one years ago called uh celebrit Cadamera and
Speaker 2: it was I shot the pilot for it and it
Speaker 2: was me. It was it was like dancing with the stars,
Speaker 2: but you learned how to be a magician.
Speaker 1: Do you remember your magic tricks?
Speaker 2: No? I don't remember any of them, but my like
Speaker 2: we each did like a different genre of magic, Like
Speaker 2: I did close up magic. So my challenge was to
Speaker 2: go to up to people at Gramman's Chinese Theater and
Speaker 2: do magic tricks for them, and I had like card tricks,
Speaker 2: I had an exploding light bulb I had I forget
Speaker 2: what else. But anyway, did you magic Castle? I didn't
Speaker 2: pull a rabbit out of anything. I would have wanted
Speaker 2: to out of my ass when that's been cool? Why
Speaker 2: is this rabbit brown? I? Uh? I shot at Magic Castle,
Speaker 2: And I remember I hated being alone. I didn't ever
Speaker 2: want to be alone. And that place is like a
Speaker 2: long history and there's a basement, and then there are
Speaker 2: magic rooms that go off to the side, and then
Speaker 2: in one display case downstairs were two ventriloquist dummies and
Speaker 2: they were like from the twenties and thirties.
Speaker 1: So I'm obsessed with though. This is one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest things about me is that I'm obsessed with antique
Speaker 1: ventriloquist dummies. I think they're so creepy and cool and scary.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about that is this was I
Speaker 2: wasn't just looking at as a hunk of would. This
Speaker 2: was somebody's livelihood. This dummy traveled all across the country,
Speaker 2: right on stages everywhere. It was somebody's career. And now
Speaker 2: it's just sitting in this display case in a basement
Speaker 2: and I was like you, I had a morbid fascination
Speaker 2: with it, and I could feel an energy coming off
Speaker 2: of the case every time I walk near it, to
Speaker 2: the point where I was like, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: I can't be down here with this thing alone. And
Speaker 2: nobody else felt it or saw it or anything, and
Speaker 2: I just felt like, this is a weird day. This
Speaker 2: is this is like, this is a weird place with
Speaker 2: weird energy, and this is a weird day. There was
Speaker 2: something something's gonna happen today. And then as soon as
Speaker 2: we got back from lunch, somebody said Anna, Nicole Smith
Speaker 2: is dead and I was like oh ooh, like like
Speaker 2: and it was literally like right before that, I was like,
Speaker 2: something weird's gonna happen. That's not really a ghost story.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like a weird story. But I'm
Speaker 2: from the Philippines and we believe in everything. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not a matter of whether whether or not ghost surreal.
Speaker 2: It's just an accepted reality of when you grow up
Speaker 2: that ghost surreal.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how much you know about the
Speaker 1: Magic Castle being haunted, but it definitely is. And people
Speaker 1: say that the Magic Castle's haunted, Like what.
Speaker 2: Kind of phenomena has taken place there, right kind of.
Speaker 1: I wish I knew more. I would like to get
Speaker 1: somebody on this podcast that like works there or something,
Speaker 1: but don't. I don't particularly know the exact stories, but
Speaker 1: I ate it.
Speaker 2: I was once went on a trip with my husband
Speaker 2: to Savannah, Georgia, which tellts itself as the most haunted
Speaker 2: city in America. And we at this place, this very
Speaker 2: famous bar slash restaurant that goes all the way back
Speaker 2: to pirate days, like pirates used to go there, and
Speaker 2: everybody who works there has a ghost story about like
Speaker 2: I was closing up alone, I got locked in the bathroom,
Speaker 2: I got I got locked in the bathroom. Glasses just
Speaker 2: get swiped off the bar, like randomly. There was a
Speaker 2: person who took a picture and they have it posted
Speaker 2: in the restaurant. There's a picture of somebody who's like smiling,
Speaker 2: posing with the piano player, and there's you know how
Speaker 2: a flash appears like in like sixth sense, you know,
Speaker 2: like there's a flash in the in the picture.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And and they said, look closely into that flash in
Speaker 2: the picture, and you see like a big man's face
Speaker 2: like Pirates of the Caribbean face like grinning, like like
Speaker 2: it's so I can get chills just singing about it.
Speaker 2: But I was on the road and doing a play
Speaker 2: Butterfly in ninety.
Speaker 1: Ok hold up, you're just like throwing so many ghost
Speaker 1: stories at me. I'm trying to okay, this was this
Speaker 1: one's a good one though, Okay, oh go go, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to process all of this. Uh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So usually what we do here is we kind of
Speaker 1: start from the top, like we start from the bun.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not following procedure. It's you are and
Speaker 2: I've gone rogue.
Speaker 1: No, this is why we love you, alec Okay, so
Speaker 1: hold up because we will get to that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So you you grew up in where Sir Francisco, so
Speaker 1: you're what were you raised to believe around ghosts or
Speaker 1: can you?
Speaker 2: So it is like, you know, all island cultures, whether
Speaker 2: it's from Puerto Rico or the Bahamas or you know,
Speaker 2: Trinidad or we all have Sue island superstitions, and but
Speaker 2: Filipinos take it beyond that. It's kind of like it's
Speaker 2: it's very common to have in your house and the
Speaker 2: Philippines like a protective amulant amulet against vampires. You bless
Speaker 2: spaces before you go into it in order to kind
Speaker 2: of like, you know, cleanse any evil spirits. If you
Speaker 2: go into a jungle or into an area where there's
Speaker 2: a lot of nature, you say out loud, tabi tabi pol,
Speaker 2: which means I respect all the spirits here. I'm not
Speaker 2: here to cause any trouble. Please don't fuck with me,
Speaker 2: kind of like, and is this.
Speaker 1: That you do to this day or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will do it. I'll say it in
Speaker 2: my head or if I feel that, if I feel
Speaker 2: something's creepy, I will say tabi tabi pole out loud.
Speaker 2: And but it's just kind of to let everybody know.
Speaker 2: It's a way of letting the spirits know I'm here,
Speaker 2: I sense your presence. I'm cole pleased. Fuck with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Has that worked for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. I mean my brother gets it a lot.
Speaker 2: He has a lot of negative experiences, Like he's the
Speaker 2: one who wakes up with night terrors and stuff, and
Speaker 2: right right before he wakes up, he like he feels
Speaker 2: like somebody standing on his chest or something that's happened
Speaker 2: to a bunch of him a bunch of times in
Speaker 2: the Philippines. Like, the Philippines is just like the only
Speaker 2: place I can compare it to is like New Orleans.
Speaker 2: When you go to New Orleans and you're walking around
Speaker 2: the French Quarter, you're like, shit happened.
Speaker 1: Here, totally sit too much.
Speaker 2: Shit has happened here. Slaves were sold here, you know,
Speaker 2: people were there, was human traffic. It was the center
Speaker 2: of human trafficking for hundreds of years, New Orleans, and
Speaker 2: so it is kind of like it's filled with that
Speaker 2: kind of energy. And the Philippines is the same way.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, World War two happened there.
Speaker 2: You know, the Japanese tortured Filipinos there. It was colonized
Speaker 2: by the Spanish for four hundred years, so there was
Speaker 2: a lot it was like the equivalent of the Spanish
Speaker 2: Inquisition bringing Catholicism to the Philippines. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of blood in the ground. Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah. So when you were a kid, did you
Speaker 1: have any paranormal experiences, like any ghost experiences?
Speaker 2: You heard about them NonStop? Really, I mean I heard
Speaker 2: about them NonStop. My my my father had a the
Speaker 2: word for nanny into galgaz yaya. They said, I had
Speaker 2: my father had a yaya who would go stiff, rigid
Speaker 2: and speak in tongues. She would just speak in tongues.
Speaker 2: My grandfather was murdered in during the war in the Philippines.
Speaker 2: I left my grandmother a widow with six kids. He
Speaker 2: was on an island called elo Elo, which was a
Speaker 2: faery ride to Manila, and he was like, go there,
Speaker 2: I'll meet you. And he was he was a judge,
Speaker 2: very strict judge, and he put a lot of people
Speaker 2: in jail, a lot of bad people. And so he said,
Speaker 2: go take the kids, I'll see you in Manila. In
Speaker 2: a week and one the Japanese landed and started, you know,
Speaker 2: fighting the Americans. All the prisons were opened up, and
Speaker 2: the prison on my grandfather's island was opened up. And
Speaker 2: the people that he put away, the murders he put away,
Speaker 2: dragged him from his house in the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: tied him to a tree and killed him.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And so the story is that my grandma, my Lala Rehina,
Speaker 2: was in Manila with all the kids and they were
Speaker 2: all laughing and everything, and all of a sudden she
Speaker 2: slammed her just dinner, you know, just you know, six kids, noisy.
Speaker 2: She slammed her palms down on the table boom and
Speaker 2: just started crying, just started wailing inconsolably, and she didn't
Speaker 2: know why, like, and everybody was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, that was the night her
Speaker 2: husband was murdered.
Speaker 1: This is okay, We've talked about I've done the show
Speaker 1: for two years now. It's so weird how sometimes when
Speaker 1: I do this show, we I just start to get
Speaker 1: these patterns of similar things. And right now I'm in
Speaker 1: like this phase where I keep hearing stories that are
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, this like family thing where you
Speaker 1: wake up and you're like, my relative just died, or like,
Speaker 1: I don't know something. I don't know what you called that.
Speaker 1: It's not like a premonition or something.
Speaker 2: But answer answer something. Coco Peru has a story about
Speaker 2: she was visiting Peru for the first time and she
Speaker 2: was in Matchipiachu and all of a sudden, she felt
Speaker 2: like she couldn't breathe. She said, it felt like somebody
Speaker 2: was pulling straws through her nose, almost like it was
Speaker 2: and she couldn't breathe for a second, and she said
Speaker 2: it like, I literally felt straws being pulled through my nose,
Speaker 2: and at that moment, her father was being taken off
Speaker 2: a ventilator and was dying.
Speaker 1: I don't think, Okay, Coco, we did a two part
Speaker 1: episode with Coco on the show, because Coco has so
Speaker 1: many stories. I don't think we got that one. So okay,
Speaker 1: when you first had like your own paranormal experience, when
Speaker 1: when did that happen?
Speaker 2: What was like? This was like, Okay, so I'm in
Speaker 2: this is my dressing room. I'm in Baltimore, I'm on
Speaker 2: tour with a play. Okay, this is my dressing room.
Speaker 2: Mirror to the left, there's a bathroom door, and then
Speaker 2: there's a sink.
Speaker 1: So h do you know what this was?
Speaker 2: No, it was an old theater. I just remember it
Speaker 2: was an old theater. So I sit down and then
Speaker 2: the water's running, and I go, okay, so I go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom. I go in and I turn off
Speaker 2: the water and then I go back and I start
Speaker 2: doing my makeup and everything. Five minutes later, the water's
Speaker 2: going again, and I'm checking it to see how you know,
Speaker 2: I'm really screwing it tight and it's not leak it's
Speaker 2: not springing back on its own, right mm hmm. And
Speaker 2: I tell one of the crew members, I think there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with my sink, and he says, is it
Speaker 2: turning on by itself? And I go yeah. He goes, oh,
Speaker 2: that happens in that dressing room all the time. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh wow, because I literally thought it was
Speaker 2: just kind of like a loose thing. And I said,
Speaker 2: so I went the next night. I came in and
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, I know you're here. It's all right,
Speaker 2: I know you're here. And I said, you know I'm here.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing this play. If you want to let
Speaker 2: me know you're here. Where you're here, you don't have
Speaker 2: to waste water, right, And then it stopped.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting it stopped.
Speaker 2: And then I had a dressing room at the old
Speaker 2: RKO Studios. I was doing a talk show that ran
Speaker 2: for a couple of months.
Speaker 1: And is that wait, k is that Paramount or it's
Speaker 1: not Paramount.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like down from Sunset Gower. It's like,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's the old k kel KTLA studios, ok,
Speaker 2: right before the one and that's been around forever. It's
Speaker 2: now the Netflix campus. But thats been around since the
Speaker 2: silent film era. I mean it is old. It is old.
Speaker 2: So we were on a soundstage and there was a
Speaker 2: dressing room that I had that could only be locked
Speaker 2: from the inside. It could only be locked from the inside,
Speaker 2: and it was and knowing that I would make sure
Speaker 2: it was unlocked. Every time I left the dressing room.
Speaker 2: I would make sure because I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: locked out right, make sure that my dressing room is
Speaker 2: not locked, because it can only be locked from the inside.
Speaker 2: And every time I came back from the pretty much
Speaker 2: every time I came back from a break or when
Speaker 2: we were done filming and I need to go back
Speaker 2: pack dressing room, it was always locked. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: and it could only be locked from the inside.
Speaker 1: I was having this thought right before I was talking
Speaker 1: to you, because I was like, I wasn't sure what
Speaker 1: your ghost stories are, and I was thinking, I'm always
Speaker 1: talking about theaters, and I'm always looking for people with
Speaker 1: like theater stories, because you know, everyone always says that
Speaker 1: theaters are all haunted. And then I was like, weren't
Speaker 1: you were on Broadway and were you at was that
Speaker 1: at the Eugene O'Neil Theater.
Speaker 2: I was at the O'Neil, and then I also did
Speaker 2: Broadway shows at the Lyceum and the Belasco, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of ghost stories about that place there.
Speaker 1: Well, I did some googling, like hold up, let's see here. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is from grunge dot com, and it says Patty
Speaker 1: Lapone encountered something ghostly at the Eugene O'Neill Theater. It
Speaker 1: says play Playbill reports that Lapone was at the Eugene
Speaker 1: O'Neill Theater during the two thousand and six run of
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd. According to a report from a fellow actor
Speaker 1: and singer, Donna lynche Implin, Lapone's dressing room seemed to
Speaker 1: have been a locust for paranormal activity, As Champlain maintained,
Speaker 1: the doors to Lapone's room would often open and close
Speaker 1: without anyone nearby. Once, Lapone believed that she had stepped
Speaker 1: backward onto her friend's foot. When she apologized, the friend
Speaker 1: revealed that she hadn't been standing anywhere nearby. Lapone turned
Speaker 1: and saw no one behind her. And then there's more stuff.
Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, it's like I didn't have
Speaker 2: any experiences there I had, you know, it was I
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't have any experiences there. But when
Speaker 2: you walk into a Broadway house, I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I believe that ghosts are a physical reality because it's
Speaker 2: kind of like it's an echo. I think it's an
Speaker 2: echo of energy, a pass And you think about a theater,
Speaker 2: It's contained all those performances, all that emotion, all that audience,
Speaker 2: all the shenanigans backstage. That's a lot of energy for
Speaker 2: one building to well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think all the audience is coming in, and
Speaker 1: you also think of I always think of an emotion
Speaker 1: as being can be left behind and when you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever walked into a room where two
Speaker 2: people have just had a fight and they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: how are you and you're like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Like that's a ghost To me, it's kind of way,
Speaker 2: that's an echo of that energy.
Speaker 1: So when you think of people like the nerves of
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm an understudy and it's my first night, Like,
Speaker 1: there's just so much of that nervous energy. There's so
Speaker 1: much excitement, there's so much heartbreak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tragedy, I mean the Alasko Theater. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was kind of a creepy guy. He had an apartment
Speaker 2: up there. He would take show girls up there, so
Speaker 2: it got kind of raypie. They are the legends the
Speaker 2: Lyceum has a ghost. They say that if you see
Speaker 2: people see somebody sitting who's not a part of the crew,
Speaker 2: all dressed up in a tuxedo. The legend goes during
Speaker 2: technical rehearsals, you know, because you're there ten out of twelve,
Speaker 2: you're there for all day. And and sometimes they say,
Speaker 2: if you see him sitting up there, if you see
Speaker 2: a guy in a talk sitting up there doing, you're
Speaker 2: gonna your show is going to be a hit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: So every Broadway house has its.
Speaker 1: Right, I haven't had enough Broadway people on here.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything physically like a paranormal thing? Like,
Speaker 2: have you ever actually seen like an apparition. I've never
Speaker 2: seen anything, but I've always like since like something's up here,
Speaker 2: Like I felt the hair in the back of my
Speaker 2: neck go up. I felt like that feeling of where
Speaker 2: somebody staring at your back, like I felt that the
Speaker 2: presence of something totally.
Speaker 1: I've the only time I've seen what I believe to
Speaker 1: be a ghost is my grandmother when I was like
Speaker 1: ten years old, and it was a very brief. It's
Speaker 1: always so interesting because I'm always curious about how a
Speaker 1: ghost looks, because they look different at different times. So
Speaker 1: sometimes they just look like a human being. Sometimes they're floating,
Speaker 1: sometimes they're see through, and this one was kind of
Speaker 1: see through and floating. I would say, and very quick
Speaker 1: and gone.
Speaker 2: Where was the Where was the where? Where? Where did
Speaker 2: you see this?
Speaker 1: I was in my home that she lived in.
Speaker 2: I grew up in a very big house, like we were.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of money at one time. Uh,
Speaker 2: and then my father made a series of bad business
Speaker 2: deals and we were like bankrupt overnight. But we grew
Speaker 2: up in a huge, huge house that belonged to previously.
Speaker 2: The previous owner had been a man who had worked
Speaker 2: on the Manhattan Project. In fact, one of the labs
Speaker 2: was turned into a bedroom, my bedroom, and it was
Speaker 2: where he had worked on the bomb, the H bomb,
Speaker 2: the A bomb, And apparently he was a scientist and
Speaker 2: started as a good guy, but after he developed it
Speaker 2: and after the bomb was detonated, he was inconsolable just
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. He was filled with
Speaker 2: grief about having contributed to this. So I while we
Speaker 2: were there, our father lost all his money. He had
Speaker 2: a complete lyrious breakdown. It was really sad. It broke
Speaker 2: the family apart. We all had to move different places
Speaker 2: in order to kind of figure out how to. You know,
Speaker 2: I was like fourteen and I was living a very
Speaker 2: adult life on my own already. You know, that's how
Speaker 2: bad it was. My brother was working as a travel
Speaker 2: agent downtown for Triple A and somebody said, Mapa, your
Speaker 2: name's Mapa, And he goes, yeah, did you live at
Speaker 2: twenty two Mariloma. It says, yeah, we moved in right
Speaker 2: after you guys and my parents died. We had a
Speaker 2: string of bad luck. He goes that place, like, is
Speaker 2: a really sad house, And he and my brother talked
Speaker 2: about how the energy of that house and how it
Speaker 2: was just a place of like sadness. It's like, like
Speaker 2: I think of that place now when I picture it,
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm really sad. You know. It was like
Speaker 2: the last time me and my family were like a
Speaker 2: whole kind of unit before we all split apart and everything,
Speaker 2: and it's just like so many bad things happen there.
Speaker 1: Well, if we go back to that idea of an
Speaker 1: emotion being trapped in a building or in a place like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if there's all that remorse and just sadness, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not something. I mean if that's in a whole house, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And my father was like super successful before he
Speaker 2: moved there, and then everything bad financially happened in that place.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh my god, yeah, have you
Speaker 1: are you a psychic person? Like do you ever go
Speaker 1: to psychics or any of that.
Speaker 2: I haven't in a super super long time, but I
Speaker 2: did go see a psychic in I was doing a
Speaker 2: movie in Vancouver with Toni Collette and.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I know what it is. It was shit,
Speaker 1: what's the one with the drag queens and the Connie
Speaker 1: and Carla Connie and Carla. Oh my god, I love
Speaker 1: the So.
Speaker 2: Chinese is like a real introvert, you know, and she's
Speaker 2: like and I was raised by a rage of Hollick,
Speaker 2: so I know how to read the room. So when
Speaker 2: I'd see her in the makeup chair in the morning,
Speaker 2: everything about her body language and her bible was leave
Speaker 2: me alone, I'm getting ready. On the set she was
Speaker 2: kind of like quiet and everything, and then she turned
Speaker 2: it on for action. So I stayed out of her face. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're working together two three weeks and she comes up
Speaker 2: to me and she goes, listen, I'm going to Vancouver
Speaker 2: Island for the weekend to see a psychic with my assistant.
Speaker 2: Do you want to come with me? And I said yes,
Speaker 2: you know, this is like the first conversation we had.
Speaker 2: So we take the ferry to Vancouver Island. She's really quiet.
Speaker 2: We just have a nice, super chill time. We drive
Speaker 2: out in Vancouver Island to the forest side and there's
Speaker 2: this little antique shop and we went into the back
Speaker 2: and there was a little old lady back there and
Speaker 2: she talked like this, she kind of had a Midwestern accent,
Speaker 2: and she shuffled some cards. She did a terrort card
Speaker 2: throw for me, and she goes, well, you're a different
Speaker 2: kind of fella. And I'm like, well, you don't have
Speaker 2: to be psychic to see that. And she said, you
Speaker 2: lived a very adult life at a very young age,
Speaker 2: and this was very worrisome to your mother, who's no
Speaker 2: longer with us. Am I right? And I was like yes,
Speaker 2: like all of that was completely accurate. And she said
Speaker 2: I was going to marry a tall guy who looked
Speaker 2: like a dancer who was tall and then to look
Speaker 2: like a dancer. She said, I was gonna and at
Speaker 2: this time I had no money. She said, you're gonna
Speaker 2: buy a house, but you're not going to live in it.
Speaker 2: And then the second house you buy is so beautiful
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna love it and love being in it.
Speaker 2: A little less than two years later, I wanted to
Speaker 2: buy a house in la I was on a television
Speaker 2: series and I was like, the minute I get a series,
Speaker 2: I'm putting all of that money into a house. That's
Speaker 2: just that's what I've been waiting for. And my aunt,
Speaker 2: who was a real turn in Vegas, said, you don't
Speaker 2: have the credit history to do it. You don't have
Speaker 2: the you don't have the credit history to do it.
Speaker 2: You're nobody's going to finance you. But if you buy
Speaker 2: a house with me in Vegas as an investment, I'll
Speaker 2: help you fix your credit and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you'll be able to get any loan that you want.
Speaker 2: So I did that, and that's exactly how I ended
Speaker 2: up buying this house. I got the financing immediately, and
Speaker 2: then I moved into this house. So she predicted that
Speaker 2: i'd buy a house first that I didn't live in,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's ridiculous, but that's I ended
Speaker 2: up doing that. I married Jamie, who's tall and skinny.
Speaker 2: It looks like a dancer, So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, she she obviously did she go to the
Speaker 1: psychic before, did she have like a recommendation or that's
Speaker 1: kind of a.
Speaker 2: She had a recommendation from somebody in Vancouver. I guess
Speaker 2: she believes in all that stuff. And she went into
Speaker 2: her reading first and then I went in next. It
Speaker 2: was really a sweet little lady. I mean, she looked
Speaker 2: like Angela Lansbury. And I told her, how did you
Speaker 2: know that you knew how to do this stuff? And
Speaker 2: she goes, I was a teller at she goes. I
Speaker 2: always knew as a kid whether or not somebody was
Speaker 2: telling the truth. But when I was a teller at
Speaker 2: a bank, if somebody was trying to cash a shitty check,
Speaker 2: I'd hear a bell, I'd hear an actual bell in
Speaker 2: my head, and I would take it to the manager
Speaker 2: and I say, can you take a look at this?
Speaker 2: And I was pretty she goes, and she was right
Speaker 2: every single time about the check not being any good. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that you have any like psychic
Speaker 1: y kind of Well, I.
Speaker 2: Think that there's you know, I think it's like radio signals.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you know, a radio, this piece
Speaker 2: of metal and wires can pick up signals from everything,
Speaker 2: I mean, what more of human beings. And I think
Speaker 2: you either have the ability to tune into that or not.
Speaker 2: And I think psychics have the ability to tune into
Speaker 2: those frequencies and tune into different time frames because you know,
Speaker 2: Einstein says that we're the only people experiencing time linearly
Speaker 2: and their actual reality is all of time is happening
Speaker 2: at once, like on this is us. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just like the past, president, future are always present. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all happening at once. And I think psychics are
Speaker 2: able to tune into that frequency. Having said that, not
Speaker 2: really I know when my kid is lying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see, I have a belief that like particularly performer,
Speaker 1: like live performer types, you kind of have to have
Speaker 1: that because you're you're you have to read a room.
Speaker 1: You have to, right, you have you have a version
Speaker 1: of that. I think even as a comic, you have
Speaker 1: to read the room.
Speaker 2: You have to read the energy of the room and
Speaker 2: kind of make yourself compatible with that and line up
Speaker 2: with it. I mean, there's no the object. The reality
Speaker 2: is there's no there's no separation in subjective communication. All Right.
Speaker 2: You and I could be talking like this, Hi, how
Speaker 2: are you? What's going on? But if something's going on
Speaker 2: with you and you're really pissed about something, something in
Speaker 2: me is going to go something's up with her. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but are you okay?
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't have that though,
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't pick up on that.
Speaker 2: Well, those are people who can't read social cues. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, and there are people who don't I mean,
Speaker 2: and there are also people on the spectrum who can't
Speaker 2: read pick up on social cues. Sure, And then there
Speaker 2: are just people who are socially dumb, who like read
Speaker 2: the room. You know, I can read the room. But
Speaker 2: that's that's from my upbringing, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, I can't believe we got a
Speaker 1: celebrity a Tony Collette story. We have not gotten a
Speaker 1: story which, Yeah, have you seen Hereditary?
Speaker 2: She's amazing in that. I don't know why she doesn't
Speaker 2: have an oscar. She's just kind of she's great. I
Speaker 2: mean she'll just like before action, she's just kind of
Speaker 2: like quiet and they'll action, and she's in three invested
Speaker 2: in whatever is happening.
Speaker 1: I also don't think that most people realize that she's Australian.
Speaker 2: I forgot she does a really good American accent, and
Speaker 2: then she was one day she was like, came into
Speaker 2: the restroom, she goes, my husband died, had a geek
Speaker 2: in Sydney, And I was like, what's with the accent?
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it's time for EVP or evlice. Do you know what
Speaker 1: an EVP is? No, okay, and EVP like when you
Speaker 1: watch ghost hunting shows, it's electronic voice phenomena. It's a
Speaker 1: ghost hunting thing. It's basically a recorded ghost voice what
Speaker 1: people believe to be as.
Speaker 2: Like they're hearing it in the physical space. Yes.
Speaker 1: Now, if you go to YouTube, there's like thousands of
Speaker 1: people that are ghost hunters, the amateur ghost under whatever.
Speaker 1: They find what they believe to be EVPs, and they
Speaker 1: say what they believe that the ghost is saying. And
Speaker 1: I have my guests tell me what they hear and
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options of what the ghost hunter says. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this first one is from someone on YouTube named
Speaker 1: Joe Hester and it is an Oak Island, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Okay, it's a lot of background noise,
Speaker 1: but you have to tune into like.
Speaker 2: That was so fa.
Speaker 1: I know it is fast. Let's hit again.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a whisper license. Greg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you some options. Is it a Walmart
Speaker 1: is bad? B? What could do that? See? Why are
Speaker 1: you mad? Or d one little snack? Like maybe you're
Speaker 1: walking down that Oh that's one little snack right there?
Speaker 2: Wait, I honestly can't hear a thing.
Speaker 1: I know it's really hard. Okay, they believe that it
Speaker 1: says what could do that? I think it says Walmart
Speaker 1: is bad? But here we go. I'll play it again
Speaker 1: with that knowledge. What could do that? Tell me? I
Speaker 1: be here?
Speaker 2: I heard that here the very last part.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's what I'll do. I'll do one more.
Speaker 1: This one I think is easier. Maybe. This was posted
Speaker 1: by saraphim e vps on YouTube. It's at the Oakland
Speaker 1: Cemetery in Iowa City, Iowa, which is where they have
Speaker 1: this famous black angel statue that's like a big black
Speaker 1: angel and it's people say it's cursed and if you
Speaker 1: kiss it, you die unless you're a version. It's like
Speaker 1: all these things like there's like all this lore surrounding
Speaker 1: this scary angel black angel statue. Yeah yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: what is this voice saying? I think again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear, I don't know about nothing audibly like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like house track?
Speaker 2: Now what is it? Okay?
Speaker 1: What is it? A Jessica beeal? B? What's the deal?
Speaker 2: Ce?
Speaker 1: Is this real? Or d a piggy squeal?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Jessica bill.
Speaker 1: It's is this reel? Which is? I think it sounds
Speaker 1: a lot like Okay, let's do it again. Yeah, totally, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do one more thing. I'm gonna play unexplained. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say a bunch of unexplained phenomena and just kind
Speaker 1: of rapid fire throw at you and just tell me,
Speaker 1: like in short little segments or maybe you'll have a story.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about it? Is it real?
Speaker 1: What's what's your thoughts? Okay, here we go, UFOs, what
Speaker 1: do you think real?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, how could we be the only planet
Speaker 2: in the universe with intelligent life. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, absolutely. In fact, there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of UFO phenomena in the Philippines. There's
Speaker 2: a town outside of Manila, two hours outside where all
Speaker 2: of people in the village report like and they say
Speaker 2: it's a mass hallucination. But it's very famous, this place
Speaker 2: called Mont Banahau where there's a lot of UFO and
Speaker 2: supernatural activity. But they said there was lights over the
Speaker 2: fields out in the middle of nowhere the size of
Speaker 2: the football field.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could.
Speaker 2: Shine on and everybody saw it. They said it was
Speaker 2: like being at a stadium that night.
Speaker 1: Whoa. What about Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: And I don't believe in Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: Why I just whatever, just like.
Speaker 2: It's I would like Harry and the Henderson's type Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: I would I want Bigfoot to be true?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What about just like I wought Lockness Monster to be true,
Speaker 2: like there could be like you know, but it's like
Speaker 2: it would be great if Lockedest Monster true, Like it
Speaker 2: was just some leftover dinosaur in Scotland someplaces it's just.
Speaker 1: Like still existing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about possession.
Speaker 2: True? Yeah? I think an energy can take over somebody.
Speaker 2: You know. I told that story about my my dad's
Speaker 2: nanny who would go rigid and speak in tongues. Sure,
Speaker 2: that's yeah, I think that's real.
Speaker 1: Okay, some more unexplained phenomena, What about wee TI board?
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's contacting the dead?
Speaker 2: You know what? I was like so terrified of those
Speaker 2: because as a kid, as because of the Exorcist, remember
Speaker 2: Cat and Howdie and earlier. Yeah, and so I never
Speaker 2: I have never touched one. I won't go near it
Speaker 2: because I think it's real. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, I think it's real. I think
Speaker 2: it's like that channel that you can tap into, like
Speaker 2: you know, like a radio. But I don't want to
Speaker 2: bug anybody. I'm really cognizant of. Like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to bug anybody, And I don't want to invite anybody
Speaker 2: who's on pleasant into my own, you know, because then
Speaker 2: what if I can't get rid of them totally?
Speaker 1: Last unexplained phenomena, are you my mommy?
Speaker 2: Yes, mommy mommy, I mean mammy, I'm my own mommy.
Speaker 1: Well, Alex, that's it. That's that's I.
Speaker 2: Believe in everything. I believe in everything because.
Speaker 1: It's kind of after love.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because it's our senses are so limited by
Speaker 2: what we see and by what we hear and by
Speaker 2: what we taste. I mean, that's just kind of like
Speaker 2: it's a very limited sensory thing. I think it's like
Speaker 2: if you just rely on what you can see and
Speaker 2: hear with your own eyes, it's it's there. It's there's
Speaker 2: a there. It's a multi dimensional reality, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I think that there are things that exist in
Speaker 2: other dimensions that we don't see, you know. And that's
Speaker 2: science too. There are radio waves we can't see, there
Speaker 2: are gas energy we can't see, you know, it's all
Speaker 2: it's all part of science.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: we probably will never know. And isn't that like I
Speaker 1: think we should just be okay with that.
Speaker 2: Contemplating the mystery. That's fun, that's the fun. Fun. It's fun.
Speaker 2: It's just and it's spooky and it's fun and everybody
Speaker 2: everybody's curious about it, whether or not you believe in it.
Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a very entertaining,
Speaker 2: diverting fascination.
Speaker 1: Well, can you tell everyone like what's going on, where
Speaker 1: they can find you all that stuff.
Speaker 2: You can find me at social media at alec Mapa
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Speaker 2: all everything mental health, anxiety, depression, addiction in a really
Speaker 2: fun and safe way. And I started the show because
Speaker 2: I suffered with chemical depression for years and I didn't
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