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Speaker 1: a minute, I said, biros Dress, Hey boo, it's me Roz.

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Speaker 1: How you doing. I cannot believe it's truly been like

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Speaker 1: Kissipher ninety nine wrote boxes Colin checked this got me

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Speaker 1: Underscore yt writes New Listener loves this podcast. I just

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Speaker 1: And you know this is always a great place that

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Speaker 1: This one is from at Mara Moulan on Apple Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: They wrote, love the podcast. Here's one of my dad's

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Speaker 1: ghost stories that keeps me up at night. My dad

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how much you know about the

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Speaker 2: And so the story is that my grandma, my Lala Rehina,

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Speaker 2: What was like? This was like, Okay, so I'm in

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Speaker 1: I was having this thought right before I was talking

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Speaker 1: Well, I did some googling, like hold up, let's see here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is from grunge dot com, and it says Patty

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Speaker 1: Lapone encountered something ghostly at the Eugene O'Neill Theater. It

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Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, it's like I didn't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever walked into a room where two

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Speaker 2: Like that's a ghost To me, it's kind of way,

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Speaker 1: much excitement, there's so much heartbreak.

432
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, tragedy, I mean the Alasko Theater. I mean, he

433
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: was kind of a creepy guy. He had an apartment

434
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: up there. He would take show girls up there, so

435
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: it got kind of raypie. They are the legends the

436
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: Lyceum has a ghost. They say that if you see

437
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: people see somebody sitting who's not a part of the crew,

438
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: all dressed up in a tuxedo. The legend goes during

439
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: technical rehearsals, you know, because you're there ten out of twelve,

440
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: you're there for all day. And and sometimes they say,

441
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: if you see him sitting up there, if you see

442
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: a guy in a talk sitting up there doing, you're

443
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: gonna your show is going to be a hit. Oh yeah,

444
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: So every Broadway house has its.

445
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: Right, I haven't had enough Broadway people on here.

446
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything physically like a paranormal thing? Like,

447
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: have you ever actually seen like an apparition. I've never

448
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: seen anything, but I've always like since like something's up here,

449
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: Like I felt the hair in the back of my

450
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: neck go up. I felt like that feeling of where

451
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: somebody staring at your back, like I felt that the

452
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: presence of something totally.

453
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: I've the only time I've seen what I believe to

454
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: be a ghost is my grandmother when I was like

455
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: ten years old, and it was a very brief. It's

456
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: always so interesting because I'm always curious about how a

457
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: ghost looks, because they look different at different times. So

458
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: sometimes they just look like a human being. Sometimes they're floating,

459
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: sometimes they're see through, and this one was kind of

460
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: see through and floating. I would say, and very quick

461
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: and gone.

462
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: Where was the Where was the where? Where? Where did

463
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: you see this?

464
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: I was in my home that she lived in.

465
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: I grew up in a very big house, like we were.

466
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: We had a lot of money at one time. Uh,

467
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: and then my father made a series of bad business

468
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: deals and we were like bankrupt overnight. But we grew

469
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: up in a huge, huge house that belonged to previously.

470
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: The previous owner had been a man who had worked

471
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: on the Manhattan Project. In fact, one of the labs

472
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: was turned into a bedroom, my bedroom, and it was

473
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: where he had worked on the bomb, the H bomb,

474
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: the A bomb, And apparently he was a scientist and

475
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: started as a good guy, but after he developed it

476
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: and after the bomb was detonated, he was inconsolable just

477
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. He was filled with

478
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: grief about having contributed to this. So I while we

479
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: were there, our father lost all his money. He had

480
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: a complete lyrious breakdown. It was really sad. It broke

481
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: the family apart. We all had to move different places

482
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: in order to kind of figure out how to. You know,

483
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: I was like fourteen and I was living a very

484
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: adult life on my own already. You know, that's how

485
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: bad it was. My brother was working as a travel

486
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 2: agent downtown for Triple A and somebody said, Mapa, your

487
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: name's Mapa, And he goes, yeah, did you live at

488
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: twenty two Mariloma. It says, yeah, we moved in right

489
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: after you guys and my parents died. We had a

490
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: string of bad luck. He goes that place, like, is

491
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: a really sad house, And he and my brother talked

492
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: about how the energy of that house and how it

493
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: was just a place of like sadness. It's like, like

494
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: I think of that place now when I picture it,

495
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm really sad. You know. It was like

496
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: the last time me and my family were like a

497
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: whole kind of unit before we all split apart and everything,

498
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: and it's just like so many bad things happen there.

499
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Well, if we go back to that idea of an

500
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: emotion being trapped in a building or in a place like, yeah,

501
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: if there's all that remorse and just sadness, I mean, yeah,

502
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: that's not something. I mean if that's in a whole house, yeah,

503
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect everything.

504
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. And my father was like super successful before he

505
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: moved there, and then everything bad financially happened in that place.

506
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh my god, yeah, have you

507
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: are you a psychic person? Like do you ever go

508
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: to psychics or any of that.

509
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: I haven't in a super super long time, but I

510
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: did go see a psychic in I was doing a

511
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: movie in Vancouver with Toni Collette and.

512
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I know what it is. It was shit,

513
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: what's the one with the drag queens and the Connie

514
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: and Carla Connie and Carla. Oh my god, I love

515
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: the So.

516
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: Chinese is like a real introvert, you know, and she's

517
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: like and I was raised by a rage of Hollick,

518
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 2: so I know how to read the room. So when

519
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: I'd see her in the makeup chair in the morning,

520
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: everything about her body language and her bible was leave

521
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: me alone, I'm getting ready. On the set she was

522
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: kind of like quiet and everything, and then she turned

523
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: it on for action. So I stayed out of her face. Okay,

524
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: we're working together two three weeks and she comes up

525
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: to me and she goes, listen, I'm going to Vancouver

526
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: Island for the weekend to see a psychic with my assistant.

527
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to come with me? And I said yes,

528
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: you know, this is like the first conversation we had.

529
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: So we take the ferry to Vancouver Island. She's really quiet.

530
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: We just have a nice, super chill time. We drive

531
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: out in Vancouver Island to the forest side and there's

532
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: this little antique shop and we went into the back

533
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: and there was a little old lady back there and

534
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: she talked like this, she kind of had a Midwestern accent,

535
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: and she shuffled some cards. She did a terrort card

536
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: throw for me, and she goes, well, you're a different

537
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: kind of fella. And I'm like, well, you don't have

538
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: to be psychic to see that. And she said, you

539
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: lived a very adult life at a very young age,

540
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: and this was very worrisome to your mother, who's no

541
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: longer with us. Am I right? And I was like yes,

542
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: like all of that was completely accurate. And she said

543
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: I was going to marry a tall guy who looked

544
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: like a dancer who was tall and then to look

545
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: like a dancer. She said, I was gonna and at

546
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: this time I had no money. She said, you're gonna

547
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: buy a house, but you're not going to live in it.

548
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: And then the second house you buy is so beautiful

549
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna love it and love being in it.

550
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: A little less than two years later, I wanted to

551
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: buy a house in la I was on a television

552
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: series and I was like, the minute I get a series,

553
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm putting all of that money into a house. That's

554
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: just that's what I've been waiting for. And my aunt,

555
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: who was a real turn in Vegas, said, you don't

556
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: have the credit history to do it. You don't have

557
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: the you don't have the credit history to do it.

558
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: You're nobody's going to finance you. But if you buy

559
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: a house with me in Vegas as an investment, I'll

560
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: help you fix your credit and all of a sudden,

561
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: you'll be able to get any loan that you want.

562
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: So I did that, and that's exactly how I ended

563
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: up buying this house. I got the financing immediately, and

564
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: then I moved into this house. So she predicted that

565
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: i'd buy a house first that I didn't live in,

566
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's ridiculous, but that's I ended

567
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: up doing that. I married Jamie, who's tall and skinny.

568
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: It looks like a dancer, So that was pretty cool.

569
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, she she obviously did she go to the

570
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: psychic before, did she have like a recommendation or that's

571
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of a.

572
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: She had a recommendation from somebody in Vancouver. I guess

573
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: she believes in all that stuff. And she went into

574
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: her reading first and then I went in next. It

575
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: was really a sweet little lady. I mean, she looked

576
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: like Angela Lansbury. And I told her, how did you

577
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: know that you knew how to do this stuff? And

578
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: she goes, I was a teller at she goes. I

579
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: always knew as a kid whether or not somebody was

580
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: telling the truth. But when I was a teller at

581
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: a bank, if somebody was trying to cash a shitty check,

582
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I'd hear a bell, I'd hear an actual bell in

583
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: my head, and I would take it to the manager

584
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: and I say, can you take a look at this?

585
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: And I was pretty she goes, and she was right

586
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: every single time about the check not being any good. Wow.

587
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that you have any like psychic

588
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: y kind of Well, I.

589
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: Think that there's you know, I think it's like radio signals.

590
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you know, a radio, this piece

591
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: of metal and wires can pick up signals from everything,

592
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what more of human beings. And I think

593
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: you either have the ability to tune into that or not.

594
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: And I think psychics have the ability to tune into

595
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: those frequencies and tune into different time frames because you know,

596
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: Einstein says that we're the only people experiencing time linearly

597
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: and their actual reality is all of time is happening

598
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: at once, like on this is us. You know, it's

599
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: just like the past, president, future are always present. You know,

600
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: it's all happening at once. And I think psychics are

601
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: able to tune into that frequency. Having said that, not

602
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: really I know when my kid is lying.

603
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see, I have a belief that like particularly performer,

604
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: like live performer types, you kind of have to have

605
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: that because you're you're you have to read a room.

606
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: You have to, right, you have you have a version

607
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: of that. I think even as a comic, you have

608
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: to read the room.

609
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: You have to read the energy of the room and

610
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: kind of make yourself compatible with that and line up

611
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: with it. I mean, there's no the object. The reality

612
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: is there's no there's no separation in subjective communication. All Right.

613
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: You and I could be talking like this, Hi, how

614
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: are you? What's going on? But if something's going on

615
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: with you and you're really pissed about something, something in

616
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: me is going to go something's up with her. I

617
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but are you okay?

618
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't have that though,

619
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't pick up on that.

620
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, those are people who can't read social cues. Yeah, yeah,

621
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, and there are people who don't I mean,

622
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: and there are also people on the spectrum who can't

623
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: read pick up on social cues. Sure, And then there

624
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: are just people who are socially dumb, who like read

625
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: the room. You know, I can read the room. But

626
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: that's that's from my upbringing, you know.

627
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, I can't believe we got a

628
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: celebrity a Tony Collette story. We have not gotten a

629
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: story which, Yeah, have you seen Hereditary?

630
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: She's amazing in that. I don't know why she doesn't

631
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: have an oscar. She's just kind of she's great. I

632
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: mean she'll just like before action, she's just kind of

633
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: like quiet and they'll action, and she's in three invested

634
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: in whatever is happening.

635
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: I also don't think that most people realize that she's Australian.

636
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: I forgot she does a really good American accent, and

637
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: then she was one day she was like, came into

638
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: the restroom, she goes, my husband died, had a geek

639
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: in Sydney, And I was like, what's with the accent?

640
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay,

641
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: it's time for EVP or evlice. Do you know what

642
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: an EVP is? No, okay, and EVP like when you

643
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: watch ghost hunting shows, it's electronic voice phenomena. It's a

644
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: ghost hunting thing. It's basically a recorded ghost voice what

645
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: people believe to be as.

646
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Speaker 2: Like they're hearing it in the physical space. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you go to YouTube, there's like thousands of

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Speaker 1: people that are ghost hunters, the amateur ghost under whatever.

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Speaker 1: They find what they believe to be EVPs, and they

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Speaker 1: say what they believe that the ghost is saying. And

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Speaker 1: I have my guests tell me what they hear and

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Speaker 1: I'll give you some options of what the ghost hunter says. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So this first one is from someone on YouTube named

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Speaker 1: Joe Hester and it is an Oak Island, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Okay, it's a lot of background noise,

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Speaker 1: but you have to tune into like.

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Speaker 2: That was so fa.

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Speaker 1: I know it is fast. Let's hit again.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a whisper license. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you some options. Is it a Walmart

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Speaker 1: is bad? B? What could do that? See? Why are

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Speaker 1: you mad? Or d one little snack? Like maybe you're

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Speaker 1: walking down that Oh that's one little snack right there?

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Speaker 2: Wait, I honestly can't hear a thing.

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Speaker 1: I know it's really hard. Okay, they believe that it

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Speaker 1: says what could do that? I think it says Walmart

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Speaker 1: is bad? But here we go. I'll play it again

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Speaker 1: with that knowledge. What could do that? Tell me? I

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Speaker 1: be here?

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Speaker 2: I heard that here the very last part.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's what I'll do. I'll do one more.

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Speaker 1: This one I think is easier. Maybe. This was posted

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Speaker 1: by saraphim e vps on YouTube. It's at the Oakland

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Speaker 1: Cemetery in Iowa City, Iowa, which is where they have

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Speaker 1: this famous black angel statue that's like a big black

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Speaker 1: angel and it's people say it's cursed and if you

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Speaker 1: kiss it, you die unless you're a version. It's like

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Speaker 1: all these things like there's like all this lore surrounding

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Speaker 1: this scary angel black angel statue. Yeah yeah, yeah, So

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Speaker 1: what is this voice saying? I think again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear, I don't know about nothing audibly like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like house track?

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Speaker 2: Now what is it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: What is it? A Jessica beeal? B? What's the deal?

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Speaker 2: Ce?

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Speaker 1: Is this real? Or d a piggy squeal?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Jessica bill.

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Speaker 1: It's is this reel? Which is? I think it sounds

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Speaker 1: a lot like Okay, let's do it again. Yeah, totally, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do one more thing. I'm gonna play unexplained. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say a bunch of unexplained phenomena and just kind

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Speaker 1: of rapid fire throw at you and just tell me,

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Speaker 1: like in short little segments or maybe you'll have a story.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about it? Is it real?

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Speaker 1: What's what's your thoughts? Okay, here we go, UFOs, what

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Speaker 1: do you think real?

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean, how could we be the only planet

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Speaker 2: in the universe with intelligent life. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, absolutely. In fact, there's a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of UFO phenomena in the Philippines. There's

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Speaker 2: a town outside of Manila, two hours outside where all

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Speaker 2: of people in the village report like and they say

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Speaker 2: it's a mass hallucination. But it's very famous, this place

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Speaker 2: called Mont Banahau where there's a lot of UFO and

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Speaker 2: supernatural activity. But they said there was lights over the

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Speaker 2: fields out in the middle of nowhere the size of

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Speaker 2: the football field.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could.

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Speaker 2: Shine on and everybody saw it. They said it was

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Speaker 2: like being at a stadium that night.

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Speaker 1: Whoa. What about Bigfoot?

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Speaker 2: And I don't believe in Bigfoot?

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Speaker 1: Why I just whatever, just like.

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Speaker 2: It's I would like Harry and the Henderson's type Bigfoot,

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Speaker 2: I would I want Bigfoot to be true?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What about just like I wought Lockness Monster to be true,

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Speaker 2: like there could be like you know, but it's like

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Speaker 2: it would be great if Lockedest Monster true, Like it

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Speaker 2: was just some leftover dinosaur in Scotland someplaces it's just.

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Speaker 1: Like still existing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What about possession.

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Speaker 2: True? Yeah? I think an energy can take over somebody.

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Speaker 2: You know. I told that story about my my dad's

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Speaker 2: nanny who would go rigid and speak in tongues. Sure,

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Speaker 2: that's yeah, I think that's real.

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Speaker 1: Okay, some more unexplained phenomena, What about wee TI board?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's contacting the dead?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I was like so terrified of those

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Speaker 2: because as a kid, as because of the Exorcist, remember

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Speaker 2: Cat and Howdie and earlier. Yeah, and so I never

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Speaker 2: I have never touched one. I won't go near it

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Speaker 2: because I think it's real. I think it's I think

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like, I think it's real. I think

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Speaker 2: it's like that channel that you can tap into, like

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Speaker 2: you know, like a radio. But I don't want to

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Speaker 2: bug anybody. I'm really cognizant of. Like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to bug anybody, And I don't want to invite anybody

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Speaker 2: who's on pleasant into my own, you know, because then

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Speaker 2: what if I can't get rid of them totally?

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Speaker 1: Last unexplained phenomena, are you my mommy?

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Speaker 2: Yes, mommy mommy, I mean mammy, I'm my own mommy.

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Speaker 1: Well, Alex, that's it. That's that's I.

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Speaker 2: Believe in everything. I believe in everything because.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of after love.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because it's our senses are so limited by

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Speaker 2: what we see and by what we hear and by

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Speaker 2: what we taste. I mean, that's just kind of like

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Speaker 2: it's a very limited sensory thing. I think it's like

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Speaker 2: if you just rely on what you can see and

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Speaker 2: hear with your own eyes, it's it's there. It's there's

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Speaker 2: a there. It's a multi dimensional reality, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there are things that exist in

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Speaker 2: other dimensions that we don't see, you know. And that's

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Speaker 2: science too. There are radio waves we can't see, there

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00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: are gas energy we can't see, you know, it's all

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Speaker 2: it's all part of science.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: we probably will never know. And isn't that like I

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Speaker 1: think we should just be okay with that.

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Speaker 2: Contemplating the mystery. That's fun, that's the fun. Fun. It's fun.

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Speaker 2: It's just and it's spooky and it's fun and everybody

764
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Speaker 2: everybody's curious about it, whether or not you believe in it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a very entertaining,

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Speaker 2: diverting fascination.

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Speaker 1: Well, can you tell everyone like what's going on, where

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Speaker 1: they can find you all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at social media at alec Mapa

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Speaker 2: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. I am the official host

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Speaker 2: of the RuPaul's Drag Race podcast, which drops every Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I also host my own mental health podcast called alec

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Speaker 2: mapa Hot Mess with Matthew Dempsey, psychotherapist, where we discuss

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Speaker 2: I suffered with chemical depression for years and I didn't

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Speaker 2: get help because I was embarrassed and ashamed because culturally

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Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to I was supposed to be able

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Speaker 2: and we have a celebrity guest every week. We had

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Speaker 1: he had an out of body experience and a very vivid,

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Speaker 1: possibly past life dream that he had. And you can

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