1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think responsiveness is such an important part of business. 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: I know, I know back in the day, we emailed people, 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: we called them, we faxed them, and you didn't get 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: such an immediate response. And some people don't like text 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: because too immediate you expect something. Guess what if you're 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: not responsive in two keep moving, like for projects, for 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: business partnerships, for UH employees, for you know, overall staff 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: members and partners. It's not great to not be responsive. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I'll I'll send a message to someone or an email 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and won't put here back from them for a day 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: and a half. I consider myself a pretty busy fucking person. 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Like if you don't get back to someone, there's somebody actually, 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: someone very powerful that I emailed back when I was 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: selling my podcast and they didn't respond to me. And 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: later they tried me back but a while later, and 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: they were bummed that I had done such a big 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: podcast deal. And I was like, and I never said, well, 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: I never heard back from you, just knowing it would 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: never happen again, and recently it happened again. I don't know, 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: you have to be responsive because you just don't know 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: what you're missing, and you don't know what opportunities being 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: presented to you that really could immediately be presented to 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: someone else. It's a serious, serious thing. You must be responsive, 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and so many people are not, and it's like it 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: can also be perceived as passive aggressive. How long is 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: an acceptable window for a text response? And how long 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: is an acceptable window for an email response? So I 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: just want to talk about just be which started for 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: me to have conversations with with game changers, business moguls, 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: people who have started from the bottom and created some excess, 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: and often in a particular industry, they've really mastered. Steve 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Madden mastered the shoe industry. Um, someone that you know, 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: Cheryl Sandberg is number two at Facebook, like someone who's 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: really just charted their own course. So Adam Corolla was 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: someone I wanted to have on because I think of 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: all these different lists of people who have succeeded. I 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know Adam. I think I might have done one 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: of his shows years ago. But I remember, literally more 39 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: than a decade ago, I talked to somebody about a 40 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: radio show and then a podcast was brought up and 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: they said that this guy ad Dam Corolla and he 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: was I don't know if this is true. Because I 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't ask him, but was making like ten million dollars 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: a year and was like the guy. So I found 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: out that he's still doing podcasting, and to me, he's 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: like I was one of the pioneers and is clearly 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: very successful in the space. So I wanted to have 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: him on. I don't I didn't know anything about his politics. 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: I've had Dana White here, who's like a you know, 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: it's serious Republican. I have had Hillary Clinton on. You know, 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I've gotten criticized for having Hillary Clinton on, and then 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: critic size for having Dana White on, and then curls 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: criticized for having Maria schreivron. So I want that I'm 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: not interested in this being a Democrat show, a Republican show. 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: There's no agenda here. I don't like when I watch 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the news and I hear people just like push their 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: own thing. You don't learn anything like seeing people I 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: roll on both Fox News and CNN. We know what 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna say because everything that the other side says, 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: you're totally opposite. Aren't There some people that are like, uh, 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: that are gray, like in the middle, like me. There's 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: some things I agree with on both sides. I mean, 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you can be a human being with your own mind. 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to have gotten the pamphlet for being 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a Republican or being a Democrat and follow every box 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: of it. So also with relief, Oh you did Fox 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: News and people cursing me out, Oh you did CNN, 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and then they start blaming presidents and getting me involved. 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: We do relief work. We take money from everybody, and 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: guess what, during some disasters, Republicans are way more generous 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: than Democrats and in other disasters. Then I then I 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: go on CNN and the money flies in. So I 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to everybody. By living in our own 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: heads and listening to the same opinions we've been moving 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: around in our own brains for our whole life. We're 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: not gonna learn anything. So whether I agree with someone 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: or not, I like to hear what their opinion is. 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: And I I'm not what I hear so much and 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: I heard it's particularly around the Trump election. Fuck you 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: you don't know anything, you I It was one of 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: the girls on the show was like, I worked at 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: ABC News for all these years. Okay, does that mean 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: you get a bigger vote? Do you get two votes 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: because you worked at ABC News, like you may, let's 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: say you're smarter than everybody else, it doesn't mean you're 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: not you're more of a person. So I always hate this, Like, 87 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's got to like regurgitate every single part 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: of the news to prove how much smarter they are 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: than somebody else. And then you know people are going 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: into to um To voting booths and not even voting 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: for who they're telling people they're voting for. People have 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: like secret people are secretly voting. Because if you get 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: into a conversation with someone who has different beliefs politically, 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: as you fun ge arguments like people are not adults. 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: So I believe in open conversation, and I've some some 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: sometimes seen my feed be like um a debate. So 97 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Adam Carolla has very specific, pointed opinions and many of 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: them and most of them are very pointed Republican opinions. 99 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: You can agree, you cannot agree, But I don't tolerate 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: me or anybody on here getting bullied for having a 101 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Democrat or a Republican on So I want to introduce 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm talking to Adam Carolla today. He's 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: a comedian and radio host. His first costing. Gig was 104 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: on Love Line, which eventually led to his own show, 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: The Adam Corolla Show. He later created the Adam Carolla Podcast, 106 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: the most downloaded podcast of its time. He broke the 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: Guinness Book of World Records in two thousand eleven. His 108 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: podcast company, Corolla Digital, still continues to garner listeners and 109 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: has a massive following. He absolutely thrives in radio scene, 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: and while you may not agree with everything he says, 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I found his takes on cancel, culture and politics fascinating. 112 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think from your own opinions. 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: See what millions and millions of people are listening to 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: him for and we could talk about it. So I 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. You really are. You are like 116 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the Elon Moska of this thing. You're the innovator of 117 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: this medium. Did you really understand exactly what it was 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: or what it would be? Was it a result of 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: something else not working out? Like? How did this trajectory start? Yeah? 120 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Well thanks, I don't look at myself that way. I 121 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: take a little bit of credit for certain things, which is, 122 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't invent podcasting. I just sort of 123 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: thought about it as a business. I guess maybe earlier 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: than a lot of people did. I just sort of 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: was traditionally in radio, had had may you know, I 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: had kind of two parts to my adult life. That 127 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the first part of my life I was a carpenter 128 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: and eventually got out of that and I got into radio. 129 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: And then I was in radio and I understood how 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the rhythms of radio worked, or how the how one 131 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: could monetize radio. You get it, you know, you talk, 132 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: you get an audience, and then you sell advertising. You know. 133 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: So when I left radio, or when radio left me 134 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: because they flipped the format on the station I was 135 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: on for the morning show, I just sort of thought, well, 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: why not take that same model to podcasting. And it 137 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 1: took a while for the business to kind of catch 138 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: up and figure it out, but I assumed they would. 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: It was you know, for me, I was just gonna 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: get up every day and I was going to talk 141 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: and I was going to do a daily show. And 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: if people listen, that would that was great. And if 143 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: they advertisers at some point came on board, that that 144 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: was great too. But I was just gonna get up 145 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and do it every day, just like some people get 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: up and meditate every day, you know, some people get 147 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: up and do yoga every day, or take their dog 148 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: for a walk every morning. You know, that's kind of 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: how I felt about podcasting. I was just going to 150 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: get up and talk every day. So I left my 151 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, radio on a Friday, and the following Monday, 152 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: I did it daily podcasts and I've never stopped. It's crazy. 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Did you feel canceled? Did you feel defeated that one 154 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: genre had one door had closed? Or you just thought 155 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: you're the kind of person who just lands on your feet. 156 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: It always has worked out, you know. I I don't 157 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: really examine who's done what to me or how it 158 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: made me feel, or canceled, they're fired, or you know anything. 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: I just sort of go, what would you like to do? 160 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: And I think, well, I'd like to talk, And then 161 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I go, well, we cannot talk on radio anymore, so 162 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: is there another place I can talk? And then I 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: found another place and I spoke. It wasn't really, there 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: wasn't no I I'm I'm pretty much when you know, 165 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't internalize too much and I don't externalize too much. 166 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: You know. My radio, my terrestrial radio career ended because 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the station thought they could make more money playing top 168 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: forty pop songs than they could with me talking. So 169 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: it was a business decision, and I didn't have any 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: where's the loyalty or I can't believe what you're doing 171 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: to me? It's all business. I wouldn't I wouldn't think 172 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: of it as anything else. So they made a business decision, 173 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: and so then I made a decision too. I love that, 174 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and I get that because many people are not like that, 175 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: and they hold onto something and wallow and I'm exactly 176 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: the same way as you. I didn't love doing a 177 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: talk show. For example. It felt like I was directing traffic. 178 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: This one comes in and when we come back, and 179 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't deep at all, and um, when that ended, 180 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, cool, what are we doing next? 181 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: And you got to kind of keep going until you 182 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: figure out what you love to do. I love doing this. 183 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: I really get why you say that you wanted to talk. 184 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because you like to hear yourself talk. 185 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I think it's an outlet. Is that not because this 186 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: to me feels like it's a It's an outlet for 187 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: humor expression, Just these thoughts that you have in your mind. 188 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Is that what it gives you after all these years. Yeah. Look, 189 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: I like to talk. When I was swinging a hammer 190 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: for a living. I like to talk when I was 191 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: in high school. You know. I like to talk. I 192 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: like conversations. I you know, the amount of times I've 193 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: gone to dinner alone, I could probably count on one hand. 194 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: And it was because I is like on the road 195 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: and whatever. Like, I would never go to dinner alone. 196 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: I want someone to talk to. I wouldn't go to 197 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: a movie alone. Like I. I really I enjoy people. 198 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I enjoy conversation. I love the exchange of ideas. And 199 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, I used to do Love Line for million 200 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: years with Dr Drew and the show would end at 201 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: midnight and we get in our cars and Culver City 202 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: and we both had about a half hour commute, And 203 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: as soon as I got in my car twelve oh five, 204 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: I would call Dr Drew and we would talk. That's 205 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: amazing he was on here. I like, he's great. I mean, 206 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I see why you guys had to go down amic. 207 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: Are you still friends? I was on the phone with 208 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: him fifteen minutes ago. We'll tell him. I said, hi, 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: when you text him, and we talked about his relationship, 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: to which if you don't mind. We'll get into a 211 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: little bit later. But um, is this space too crowded? Um? 212 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: In podcasting? Yeah? Um, yeah, I you know, I don't know. 213 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's like saying, are there too many shampoos? 214 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Are there too many Mexican food restaurants in Los Angeles? Like? Um, well, 215 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: TV is too crowded for me. I don't even know 216 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: where the hell I'm going and when I'm watching and 217 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm in a rabbit hole. So is this like that? 218 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: And is it? Is it like you can't really process 219 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: information or have quality because it's so much quantity? I 220 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: just mean, what does it mean? What will happen with 221 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: just so much every single person having a podcast? Yeah? 222 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: I I don't know. I I don't really spend a 223 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about it. My feeling is is 224 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: whether you want to open a restaurant or open a 225 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: podcast to go, do it. Try to make your food 226 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: the best, then let the chips fall where they may. Yeah. Okay, Um, 227 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: how you grew up in Wisconsin but you were born 228 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: in l A. No, I think that's kind of a 229 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: wicked thing or something. I was basically born in Lost 230 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: s angel So some something sad I was born in Philadelphia. 231 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: I lived in Wisconsin when I was very young for 232 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: maybe a year or something like that. But basically I'm 233 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: a California person, okay, and you're you close with your parents? 234 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Did they care about success? Was money and work ethic 235 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: a thing in your house? What was the sort of 236 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: road were you going on? What did they think you 237 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: would be doing or what were what were your conversations 238 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: with them about what you're supposed to do with your life. 239 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have any of those conversations about what I 240 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: might become or how it's going to get paid or 241 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: any of that. I it wasn't something that was discussed, 242 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: and there wasn't the entrepreneurial spirit or there really wasn't 243 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: discussions of college or you know, um, there weren't discussions 244 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: of college. No interesting and why what what? You just 245 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: everybody just gets a job and just you go paycheck 246 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: to paycheck and that's just life. Yeah. You you you 247 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: finished high school and then you go to work and 248 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: you hope someone gives you, you know, an hourly waged 249 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: that's decent and hopefully maybe there's some benefits involved medical 250 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: or dental or something, and then that's that's that or 251 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: or it's not, but it was none of their concern. 252 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just talking. I was talking to 253 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Drew twenty minutes ago and the subject came up. I said, 254 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, did you ever think you'd have twenty jobs 255 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: when you're older? You know what I mean, like literally, 256 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: oh that's I have twenty jobs, you know, And and 257 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: he said no, no, no, And I said, you know, 258 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: my family was kind of a little bit interesting. But 259 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: my mom didn't really work, kind of kind of welfare, 260 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: food stamp sort of thing with her. My dad was 261 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: kind of a school teacher his whole life. Um, my 262 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: grandmother worked at the v A Hospital in Westwood about 263 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: forty years and my grandfather didn't work. And that's about 264 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: all I saw. I had. No one worked a weekend, 265 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: nobody bought commercial real estate, No one had an idea 266 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: for a line of hot sauce. You know. It was 267 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: just that was it. And and when it came to 268 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,119 Speaker 1: their kids, there was that was it. There was no discussion. 269 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: We lived in you know, the two houses both had 270 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: one bathroom and you know, we're square feet and that 271 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: was it. But many people would have been successful no 272 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: matter what they do because of their drive. And do 273 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: you think that you just happened to find your calling 274 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: and that's why you're successful. Would you have made money 275 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: at anything you've done. Do you have an amazing work 276 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: ethic and are you driven and you have that passion 277 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: or you're just doing what you love and making money 278 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: at it just playing it simple. I I don't really 279 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have the entrepreneurial spirit as a younger person 280 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't even know what it was. I mean, 281 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I never saw anyone you never heard that word entrepreneur 282 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: or branch money was kind of pooh pooed, sort of bad. 283 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: As you know, I understood that if you mowed lawns 284 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and washed cars, you could you could get twenty bucks 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and maybe you could buy a mini bike or something 286 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: like that. That was about is you know, that's that's 287 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of what I understood. So I never thought much 288 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: about it. And then, you know, when I went to 289 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: work after high school, I just you know, walked onto 290 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: a construction site and just worked as a labor just 291 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: dug ditches. Right, But that is hard work. So you're 292 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: not afraid of hard labor. You don't, I mean, you 293 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: don't complain. You you'll work long hours. You don't care 294 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, well, you know, I wasn't in the 295 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: position where I could complain or not, uh embrace it, 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase. I I had no money. 297 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: My family had no money. They were very clear since 298 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I was you know, ten, that they weren't going to 299 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: do anything there. It's not there. There's no parachute or 300 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: or net underneath me. They didn't have money, and if 301 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: they did have it, they wouldn't give it to me. 302 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: And and they didn't have money. So I just wandered 303 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: out into the society sort of went I'll be anyone's 304 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: donkey for you know, seven bucks an hour, and I'll 305 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: work as many hours as as I can work. Because 306 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: now I got an apartment and roommates and a truck, 307 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, and I got to support myself. And that's 308 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: that's how I approached it, right. And then didn't you 309 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: meet someone work in construction and that was your transition 310 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: into radio? No? I met Uh, I met Jimmy Kimmel, 311 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: who was doing radio at a sort of lower level. 312 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: He was like part of a morning show, you know, 313 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: he was and the guys whose names are on the billboard. 314 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: He was Jimmy the sports guy. He did the sports 315 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: and um I was also working part time as a 316 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: boxing instructor. At that point in my career. Um I 317 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: was doing the white collar boxing you know, I got 318 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: twenty bucks a class to teach lawyers and airplane pilots 319 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: how to how to box, you know. And Uh, I 320 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: heard there's a boxing match going on on the radio 321 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: show with Jimmy the sports guy and Michael the maintenance man. 322 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: And I just heard him talking about on the radio, 323 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, I'd like to check this out. 324 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: And they needed trainers, and it was a big, long story, 325 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: but eventually I showed up at the radio station and 326 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: there was Jimmy and uh, and I trained him and 327 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: then we became friends. And how did you have that 328 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: interest for radio though? What made you so? Then? And 329 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: then so then what got you on the radio and 330 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: why when he puts you on as a box usually 331 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: people pigeonhole you as what they meet you as. It's 332 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: a random transition. Well, he told me, uh, he thought 333 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: I was funny, but he said, I'm not gonna pitch 334 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: you as my boxing instructor because they're gonna go, what 335 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: the hell? You know, that's not funny. You know, you're 336 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with some character or something. 337 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell them who it is. That's 338 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of how it started. But I was always working 339 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: on comedy, going to the Groundlings, acme improv. You know, 340 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: I was working. I was work during the day full 341 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: time as a as a carpenter, but at night I 342 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: would I would take my improv classes and try to 343 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: do open mics and try to do anything I could 344 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: do comedically. And I always loved the Radio. It just 345 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't working out interesting. I loved the Groundings. 346 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: I took classes there. I thought that was so so great. 347 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: I took classes at different ones in different states, like 348 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: the Second City Well One and in Prov Olympics, but 349 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: I thought the Groundlings was the best one. Did you 350 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: were you actually a groundling? You perform or you just 351 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: took the classes. I got all the way up to Advanced, 352 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: where they they voted the next day to see if 353 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I would become a groundling, and I did not become 354 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: a groundling. So I basically made it through beginner intermediate 355 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: writing lab and then Advanced and then got cut. That's defeating. 356 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get that far. It was very depressing. And 357 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: then I sort of one over answer and an ad 358 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: in a newspaper for another troop called that turned into 359 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: out to be the ACME Comedy Troop. And I just 360 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: went over there and I started basically my own troop. 361 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: So you can't really cut you know, I gotta play 362 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: it's my balls the way like you can't cut me. Obviously, 363 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: her first, did you once you hit, once you were 364 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: on the radio, did you feel like you could feel traction? 365 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Was it an upward trajectory you're decent at this people 366 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: are responding, or did you keep getting pulled back and 367 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: have false starts? Now, it was almost it was pretty 368 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: much immediate success with the the understanding that I was 369 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: funnier than everybody else, Like it just boom. It just 370 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: went fast. That's so good, that's so great. And it 371 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: went fast when you went into podcasting. To you, you 372 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you lit up. You have a gu there's a Guinness 373 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: Book of World Records. Something about your podcast or downloads 374 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: or something isn't there. I don't know if I would 375 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: say that went fast because there wasn't any money, or 376 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: there wasn't a there wasn't any infrastructure or anything around it, 377 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, so it's like, I mean, you didn't know 378 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: how many people were listening, did you even or did 379 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: you know? But you don't know what that means. Well, 380 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: there was metrics, you could you could figure it out, 381 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: but it was weird and and it didn't but it 382 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't matter how many people you had listening. There was 383 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: no business model. So what was totally true? I love 384 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: that answer because I did podcast for a year. It 385 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: was very successful and I had major guests like Hillary 386 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Clinton and Matthew McConaughey and realized a year later that 387 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: I basically was paying for the podcast because of the production, 388 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: and that the model wasn't correct. They were bulk advertising 389 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: instead of oh, you have Hillary Clinton on, so let's 390 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: not put women's hair lost product because it was in 391 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: the bulk been on when she's on, Like, why don't 392 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: we curate something to her? So I realized that and 393 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: I said, hold on, but you have to even and 394 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: you've been doing it for fifteen years longer or twy, 395 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: So to think about the fact that all this time later, 396 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: the model still isn't you have your own model that 397 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: you probably have now designed and it works for you, 398 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: but it's like a wild, wild West still. I think 399 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: is interesting about that the way. I didn't know there 400 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: was a list of podcasts. I didn't know the way 401 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: that things get defined. So I think that's interesting that 402 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: you must have really been in the cave era, like 403 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing. It's been thirteen years and uh no, there 404 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: was no model and uh and width was expensive and 405 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I had to pay for it, and I just moved forward. 406 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really base it, you know, I didn't base 407 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: it on the promise of success or financial reward. I 408 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I based it on what I wanted to do well. 409 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: I think you definitely aren't motivated by money. I could 410 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: tell that, and you're seeing like a kind of if 411 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: you build it, they will come person Well. I like money, 412 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and I try to make money, but it's not the 413 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: purpose that doesn't get me out of bed in the morning. 414 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: It's not why I started, and it's not what propels me. 415 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: It's a byproduct of what I do. And if you 416 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: can do it well, then you can make more money. 417 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: And I like money like anybody else. But you know, 418 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to come across as some you know, 419 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: purest artists or something like that. I like getting paid. 420 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I like figuring out ways to get paid. I'm I'm 421 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: all about it. But I'm also first and foremost about 422 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: saying what I want to say and telling the jokes 423 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: I want to tell are given the opinions I want 424 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: to tell, which sometimes are not as financially rewarding in 425 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: this town, especially as keeping those opinions closer to your vest. Well, 426 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: that's a great question. You came up at a time 427 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: where you could be way looser with what you wanted 428 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: to say, and now you know there's such a land 429 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: of bullshit of people's self editing and being filtered, um, 430 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, than just saying what they really feel secretly. 431 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: So how much do you actually have to self edit 432 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: for fear of cancelation and just that the world is 433 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: more sensitive than ever? And how much do you just 434 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: say fuck it, I'm saying what i want to say, 435 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: and if the tables go cold, I'll walk out of 436 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: the casino. I say what I want to say. It's um, 437 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: it's not something that I wrestle with. I just say 438 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: what I want to say. I tell people, and you know, 439 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: people have told me stop saying things, and I just go, 440 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: it's what I think, you know, and they go, yeah, 441 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: but things would be better if you stopped some of 442 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: that and I just go listen. I didn't get into 443 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: comedy to edit myself. This is I'll go back to 444 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: swinging a hammer if that's what we're gonna do here. 445 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: So I actually go further the other direction. If if 446 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: I think maybe I shouldn't say something, I say it 447 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: because you're feeling it inside. So you're saying what you 448 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: want to say. Are you saying it differently because of 449 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: things that you've learned? Do you say, is there a 450 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: different way to say the same thing, or if you 451 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta just say it the way you gotta 452 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: say it, Well, you say it the way you got 453 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: to say it with an eye toward language. You know, 454 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: if you've been around long enough, you know there's you 455 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know twenty years ago you would say that 456 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: guy's a homo, and now you say that guy's gay. 457 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like you, you do kind 458 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: of tweak along with the times. But because it doesn't 459 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: catch a ether to say that, it's not quote unquote 460 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: if you were in the middle of a joke or 461 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: a story, it doesn't matter how you say that. For example, 462 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: it matters to people that it will hurt, but it's 463 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: not you know, But but as humor, its don't excuse 464 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: meaning if it's going to be funny, it will land 465 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: and then people will Like Dave Chappelle for example, I mean, 466 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: the things he says are so unpopular and yet so funny, 467 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: so he really he doesn't even ride the line. He 468 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: fully crosses it. But it's because people think he's so 469 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: funny that he gets away with it. I mean, if 470 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: he were somebody else, would he fully be canceled, Like 471 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: where's that line? And what's how do you know how 472 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: to not cross and how to succeed at the humor 473 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: in that? Does that make any sense what I'm saying. Yeah, 474 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: except for the one part where you said, you know, 475 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are he says things 476 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: that upset a lot of people. It's not really a lot. 477 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: It's just a very small vocal group. Most people don't 478 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: give a ship. Otherwise he wouldn't be popular. If you're 479 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: really we're saying something that really the majority of Americans 480 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: disagreed with, he wouldn't be as popular as he is. 481 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: But the thing is that you're in so you're in 482 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: the right vehicle for yourself that to do that, because 483 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: you don't have bosses that are worried about what you're 484 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: saying and if you're gonna piss off a certain group. 485 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I've said things that I don't even think of that crazy, 486 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know, had brand deals immediately canceled because 487 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: People magazine and US Weekly picked up something that I said, 488 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: and it's everywhere, and it's like, well, I don't even 489 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: freaet say anything like I just said when my opinion 490 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: was and I didn't say anything inappropriate or racist like 491 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: I just said in my opinion was. It's not a 492 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: popular opinion. So then you end up losing money. But 493 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: your base is in just you and the people. It 494 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: is very pure in that way. They're listening to you, 495 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: whether whether you've said something inappropriate or not. That's the 496 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: relationship you're in businesses. You don't get You don't lose 497 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: brand deals, right, No, I don't. I don't really have 498 00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: brand deals. Maybe that's why, sure I would lose brand deal. Okay, Okay, 499 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: that's interesting because that's a choice. Well, I look, I 500 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: kind of realized a long time ago in this town 501 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to fit in with the sort 502 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: of doctrines that would be passed down from on high 503 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: upon mountain pious and I was not. It was not 504 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: going to work out for me in that in that regard, 505 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: so I needed to just go my own direction, build 506 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: my own audience and say what I wanted to. Yeah, 507 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: because what is important in business. If you try to 508 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: please everybody, you please nobody, and if you try to 509 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: be a watered down halfway version trying to please like 510 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: quote unquote brand deal world, and then you'd be like this, 511 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: you'd be in the middle, you'd be in the purgatory, 512 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be successful, like in the same way, 513 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: which I love that because you have to be fearless. 514 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: And I love what you said about it being a 515 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: small group. It's so true. If you read comments about yourself, 516 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: you'll think this is what's going on, and then the 517 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: press will pick that up and you think it's going on. 518 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting that you say, it's really not 519 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: a big people that you're pissing off. It's just vocal people. 520 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: I like that. I've just never thought of it that way. 521 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: Their minority, but they're super vocal. That's enough with social 522 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: media to get most people to back off. But it's not. 523 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: They don't represent most Americans. They'll put it to you 524 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: that way, and look, even if they did represent most Americans. 525 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Back to Dave Chappelle, there's three hundred and thirty million Americans. 526 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: All he has to do is capture about two and 527 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: he's going to sell out every arena he plays. You know, Yeah, 528 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: you are a business person, that's for sure. I like 529 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: the way you think. I really do. You've thought about 530 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: all of this. You've done. You've done the numbers, whether 531 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: literally or just conceptually, which I think is helpful. It's 532 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: helpful to me for sure, because I say things that 533 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: aren't popular, and I really I think I think that 534 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: you don't care. But do you not care? Like adul 535 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: do you read nothing? Do not care if your wife's 536 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: like holy sh it? Like back to you know Howard 537 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Stern when he was married to his first wife and 538 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: all the ship, he used to say, do you care 539 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: at all? I care, like any human being cares if 540 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: somebody is upset or saying things about them or you know, 541 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: saying mean spirited things. Are you know there or an 542 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: attempt at hurtful things. I don't. I don't really get 543 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: my feelings hurt. But uh, I care on a level 544 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: that most people care about, like your dog gets upset. 545 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: When you get upset, usually I I care on that 546 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of level, like, oh, I don't want this person upset. 547 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: But but then beyond that, I don't give a shit. 548 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: I I I try to. You know. My thing is 549 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: is I get into trouble for saying things. And you 550 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: know I said the real the more recent thing I 551 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: got into trouble where or about was I was talking 552 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: about ao C And I said if she was in 553 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: her sixties and fat, would anyone listen to anything she said? 554 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: And then people got outraged? But what are they outrage about? 555 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear because I'm gonna tell you mine, 556 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: and I don't even they heard the word fat, and 557 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't First off, what are 558 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: you outraged about? It's the truest thing that's ever came 559 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: out of my mouth. Number one and number two, I 560 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: don't give a shit If you're upset? Is it true 561 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: or isn't it true? If it's true, then it's true. Interesting, right, 562 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: you did right? It's like getting mad at your dentists 563 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: for telling you you have three cavities. It's either true 564 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: or it's not true. And it's true. I mean what 565 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: I said about AOC. So there we here we are. 566 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in the business of trying to 567 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: make people feel good about what I say. I want them. 568 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to either be accurate or have some truth 569 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: in it or not. No one even asked me to 570 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: popologize anymore. It's your advice is just don't give a 571 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: ship at all. Well, we got into this mess we're 572 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: in right now by people apologizing and walking things back 573 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: and and blah blah blah. Wait wait way too fast. 574 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: And then the people who were pretending to be upset 575 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: who weren't really upset. They just want dominion over you, 576 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: got empowered and so the so, for instance, um I 577 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: sent out a tweet that got everyone very upset like 578 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, as it pertained to 579 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: a COVID. I said, this thing's killing old people and 580 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: it's killing sick people, and the rescue pussy's got played, 581 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: and who's getting played next time? And chud Apatow called 582 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: me and he said, you really need to take that 583 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: tweet down, and I said, no, it's still up today. 584 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: It's I'm not taking it down. It's true. So I'm 585 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna stand by it. And by the way, history we'll 586 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: bore that out. My next question is what percentage are 587 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: you lucky and what percentage you smart? Well, I'm lucky 588 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: in the sense that I have escaped you know, uh, 589 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: tragedy in the sense that, you know, I used to 590 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: do a lot of kind of reckless stupid ship. You know, 591 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: I'd ride my motorcycle when it was raining outside and 592 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I had like a bald back tire on it. You know, 593 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: I'd do construction where I'd hang off the side of 594 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: a five story building and put plates on. But in business, 595 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: in business, I think, I mean, so I haven't. Yeah, 596 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: I just I'm in one piece after doing a lot 597 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: of really stupid shiit so that that certainly could be 598 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: considered lucky. Uh. In business, I you know, I've had 599 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: had some good things happen, had some disappointments. You know, 600 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not at the top. I'm not at 601 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: the bottom. You know, I'm somewhere in the middle. I've 602 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: always kind of looked at myself. I've been able to 603 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: make a living doing what I want to do, which 604 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: is to me always a blessing, just the fact that 605 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: I get to work. You know, I was literally talking 606 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: to my son last night at dinner, and I was like, 607 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, people say, well, why do you work so much, Adam? 608 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I said, let's let's examine it 609 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: this way. When I when I did construction, I'd get 610 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: up at six in the morning, I'd eat some cereal 611 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: and i'd leave about six fifteen sitting traffic. I worked. 612 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, when you work construction, you might work in 613 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Silver Lake and then two weeks later you're working in Alabu, 614 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and then two weeks later you're working at seem Valley 615 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: or Chatsworth or something. You're all over the place. So 616 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: the commute is always like could be twenty minutes, could 617 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: be an hour, you know, uh, and it's I'd be 618 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: on the road for half an hour and I'd work 619 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: for eight hours, sometimes ten hours, and then i'd come 620 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: home at like four or five in the afternoon, and 621 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: no one ever wanted to know why I was working 622 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: so much. Those were the hours, you know, and I do. 623 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Then you get in the show business, you're getting a podcasting. 624 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, I leave my house at ten, ten thirty, 625 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe eleven in the morning. I am work for three 626 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: or four hours, depending, maybe five hours, just so depending 627 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: come home at four o'clock. Why is that working too much? Right? Well, 628 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: it depends on how much you're doing besides that, which 629 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: may be a lot at your level of success. But 630 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you said you're not the 631 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: top or the bottom. You probably do. You have a 632 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: level of anonymity when you're out in a level of 633 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: normalcy as it pertains to fame and recognition. Yeah, it's some, 634 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I get recognized, sometimes I don't. I 635 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: used to be on TV a lot, and I'm not 636 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: on TV and host a TV show, or I'm not 637 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: in a TV show currently, So when you're off TV 638 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: you get less physical recognition, but it's still out there. Yeah. People. 639 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: You know, if I go to a restaurant, usually someone 640 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: will say hi or some version of that, which is 641 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: completely fine with me. Do you like the level though? 642 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: Would you like to be hosting the Oscars and be, 643 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: like you said, at the top or because you consider 644 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: yourself to not be at the top, or you like 645 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: because you have a balanced life in your relationship and 646 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: as a father and your business and you know it's chill. 647 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have the desire to be recognized 648 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: um that way. I have the desire to have thoughts 649 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 1: and ideas and share them with people. But I don't 650 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: have the desire to be stopped or recognized or praise 651 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: that way. And as a matter of fact, you know, 652 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: when I do say something in the form of a 653 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: tweet that may go viral, or I do say something 654 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: about AOC that may garner some controversy or some ire 655 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: or something, you know, people will say, oh, you know, 656 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: he's just stirring it up to try to get attention. 657 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: It's it's it's the opposite. I don't I don't want 658 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: the attention. I really don't. I'm just saying what I think. 659 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: So you don't find you don't want to care about relevance. 660 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: It's obvious, but you'll you're not firing random shots on Twitter. 661 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: You just feel like communicating and talking, just like you 662 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: are right now. So you're just saying something you think 663 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: and you don't even you don't even know if it's 664 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: going to be unpopular. Half the time, right You're just 665 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: saying something you think. Yeah, I was, I was doing 666 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. I was sitting in a mobile van 667 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: where they cut to you. I had my notepad in 668 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: front of me because they were talking about what whatever subject. 669 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, and I A. O. C. 670 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Was on it and it just it just popped into 671 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: my head thirty seconds from one on the air, that 672 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: would anyone listen to this nut job if she didn't 673 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: look how she looks and wasn't the age she was? 674 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: And I thought now, and then I thought, all right, 675 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: well I thought it. Now I'm gonna say it. And 676 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: do you are you overly? Are you political? Would you 677 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: say that about a Republican or a Democrat? Do you 678 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: or your Are you like Fox News or CNN where 679 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: you're saying it about one group but not another, or 680 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: you're an equal opportunity offender? Well, I am more political 681 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: these days. I'm definitely more Republican into the right, but 682 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: it's not really because I mean the guns or god 683 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: or what? Would you say that about Laura Ingram if 684 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: you felt it? Would you say something about her too, 685 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: even though she's on your side on your news channel? 686 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: Per se? No? Probably, I had to be honest, I 687 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't unless she started saying about are really dumb shit? Interesting? Okay, 688 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: So it's a it's opinion based and it is a 689 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: little political base. So that's interesting. Yeah, that makes sense. Um, 690 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: because Michael Rappaport this is both he's a Democrat, but 691 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: he's this is AOC also. So that's why I asked 692 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: a question. Well, uh, Bill Maher is a Democrat, but 693 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: he says smart stuff. AOC is a Democrat, she says 694 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: dumb shit, and like you thought, John Stewart said smart stuff. Yeah, yeah, 695 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and you have a mutual respect for 696 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: these comedians and vice versa, or is the politics overflow 697 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: and they're pissed at you for saying certain ship like that? Um, 698 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean comedians are pretty hard left for the most 699 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: part and pretty much into punishing people who don't agree 700 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: with them politically for the most part. But there are 701 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: a few that are intellectually honest, and you know, the 702 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: aforementioned Bill Maher's intellectually honest. You know, I would think 703 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: that comedy super I'm off. I thought you were gonna 704 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: say comedians all there's a code and it's supersedes politics, 705 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Like I really did. I'm disappointed in comedy because of 706 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: that one thing that you just said. I'm well, most 707 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: of them, most of them are cowards. Most comedians okay, 708 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: we call them heroes, but there's some of the frailest 709 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: people have ever. Yeah, that I don't because comedy suppose 710 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: you know what Dave Chappelle does, His comedy supersed politics. 711 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: You think I think Dave. Look, Dave Chappelle is gonna 712 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: say what Dave Chappelle wants to say. The problem is 713 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: is here's kind of the problem with politics and comedy 714 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Um, I would say, I don't 715 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: want schools to close in California. I think that's bad 716 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: for kids. And that's a bad idea, and it's your opinion. Yeah, 717 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: and it's also statistically bore out as well. You know 718 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: it's not I'm not just basing it on nothing or 719 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: pine in the sky. It doesn't hurt kids. Schools should 720 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: never be shut down. So I say, I have kids 721 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 1: who are in a public school, so I go, don't 722 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: shut it down. And then the teachers unions essentially call 723 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: me a racist? You know what I mean? Now, who's 724 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: politicizing this? I just I just said schools shouldn't be 725 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: close down. That is Adam Carolla as a parent of 726 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: a child at school, or is Adam Carolla or whatever. 727 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: But I don't believe schools should be shut down. No, 728 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not saying it because you have 729 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: a show, and that's gonna be the voice that's gonna 730 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: make it happen. You as a parent with kids at 731 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: that school, that's what you would think if you were 732 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: still doing construction. Yeah, and it's that's and so then 733 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Republican talking point, and it's like now 734 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: it's it's first off, statistically true, scientifically true, and you're 735 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: hurting kids, and I'm not down with it. And if 736 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: I love opinions just being aligned to politics, and I 737 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: don't mean political opinions, you could be like, you know, 738 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: if if, for example, if I said that because I 739 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: made a comment about Megan Markle, I voted for Trump. 740 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: That's if you make a comment that isn't positive about 741 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: Mega Markell, you voted for Trump. I don't know what 742 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: then those two things have to do with each other. 743 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: But there are so many comments like I war our guy, 744 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: oh you voted for Hillary. Like it's the just arbitrary 745 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: things that are assigned to politics are bizarre these days, 746 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: and they also have it way wrong, like they are 747 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: always like those are you know, right wing talking points? 748 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: Like all right, I don't think homeless homeless people should 749 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: be camping all over the place in venice speech. If 750 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: that's a right wing talking point, then so be it. 751 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: But I would have had that opinion thirty years ago 752 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: or a hundred and thirty years ago. And I I 753 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: don't think kids should wear masks because they're not vulnerable, 754 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: and masks that don't really work. And I don't think 755 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: that you should force kids to get vaccinated because they're 756 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: not in a group that's going to be harmed by this. 757 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts, but they're all sort 758 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: of right wing talking points, except for they're just my thoughts. 759 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh they write they happen to be right, but they're 760 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: your thoughts. But do you battle it out with people 761 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get anywhere just if someone you know. 762 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: This is what happened a lot with the election, where 763 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: everyone was you're a fucking idiot, you don't know anything, 764 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: and then people were hiding who they were voting for. 765 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: Because there are many elements to voting that way, transcend 766 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: political party. You could like half of a person, you 767 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: could hate both options and just play pin the tail 768 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: and donkey to decide who to vote for. I'm saying, 769 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: so the battling. Did the battling work because you're talking 770 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: to the people who agree with you again, Like I 771 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: feel like so rarely did these debates get anywhere. Most 772 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: people don't change their opinion. So it feels like this 773 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 1: battle between Fox and CNN or news all the time, 774 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: eye rolling reporters, eye rolling back and forth. Like it 775 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: just never was like that. When we were growing up, 776 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: news was much more neutral. Do you not agree with that? 777 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: It's like you're allowed to eye roll about another. Huh, 778 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: And that's what Trump did bred Hillary. Like it's just 779 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: more animated and it's weird. It's like entertainment and it's 780 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be news. Yeah, it's definitely, you know, definitely 781 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: the time we're living in and uh, you know, for me, 782 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: it's like you take something like COVID. I live in California. 783 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: I have Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom there, there's a business 784 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: that's one mile from here. It's a family business. It's 785 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: a restaurant that was run by friends of mine that 786 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: I knew from high school and now they ran the 787 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: business and Gavin Newsom at some point said no more 788 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: outdoor dining, and they defied that order and the government 789 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: shut the business, put a fence around it, and now 790 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: they're out of business. Now. Um, do I agree with that? No? 791 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: I do not do. I agree with Rhonda Santis and 792 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: Florida who said, hey, there's no mask mandate. If you 793 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: want to wear masks, wear a mask. If you don't 794 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: want to wear masks, don't wear a mask, and there 795 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: is outdoor dining. We shut the beaches down in California. 796 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. So then people go, oh, 797 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: so you're just doing right wing talking points. Maybe it 798 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: is a right wing talking point, but my opinion is this, 799 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: don't shut the beach and don't close down a restaurant 800 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: that's been in business for fifty years over zero science. 801 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: It's so funny that you say that, though, because I 802 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that people call it right when talking 803 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: about do you ever just give an opinion that happens 804 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: to be a democratic talking point or all of your 805 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: bullet points it happened to be right wing? Do Is 806 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: there any hybrid of it all? No? But here's how 807 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: the game book. I'm on record, I've been speaking in 808 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: a microphone for thirty years. I'm four game marriage. I'm 809 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: for legalization or decriminalization. Of drugs um for the morning 810 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: after pill. I'm for I'm an atheist. I'm not a 811 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: gun guy. I've been I've been saying this the whole time. 812 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: So then you're saying it's hybrid, you're not. It's not 813 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: right when talking point because you don't have the pamphlet. 814 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: You have other things that would be on the other 815 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: pamphlet that you also believe in. That's what you're saying. Well, 816 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: I definitely agree with more things that conservatives say, because 817 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: when you say defund the police, that comes from the left, 818 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: and I would say, no, do not defund the police. Well, 819 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: that's a right wing but I would agree with them 820 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: on that. And when they yeah, I got I understand 821 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I understand what you're saying about the 822 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: that it's not a right wing talking point is what 823 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: you actually happen to believe. But you happen to actually 824 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: happen to believe in many things that Democrats believe in 825 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: as well. That's what I just wanted to Yeah, but 826 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: except for they don't give a yet. So you can 827 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: agree with Democrats on everything, but if you criticize Megan Markle, 828 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: then you're on the Republican side. Right to use irrelevant. 829 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: You can't be half pregnant, but you are into the 830 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: morning after pills. There are hypocrites, that's the way they roll. 831 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: So you can be eight out of ten things can 832 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: be you agree with Democrats, you disagree on two, than 833 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 1: you're a Republican. And that's the rules they've decided, which 834 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to. I was going to ask you 835 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: about your rose and your thorn of your career. I'm 836 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: actually very more interested to hear this from you than 837 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: most the high and the low of your career. Um, 838 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't really I don't keep track of the highs. 839 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: The highs are just making a living doing what I 840 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: want to do. Like, you don't remember something phenomenal that 841 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: happened that you're like, funk, this is amazing. I remember 842 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: when I very first started and I got out of 843 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: construction and into radio. I was in radio for like 844 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 1: ten minutes and I was that some concert or something, 845 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: and I ran into some guy, one of the guys 846 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: from Guns and Roses, who was the biggest band in 847 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: the world when I was swinging in a hammer and 848 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: and he he likes said, I introduced myself and he's like, oh, 849 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: you're that guy. Oh you know, Axel was saying he 850 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: thought you would be older or whatever hearing me on 851 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: the right, and I was like, Axel Rose is talking 852 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: about me. I'm I'm off a construction side for like 853 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: ten minutes. Oh my god, that's that's amazing. How funny 854 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: that was your Rose guns and roses? Oh there, maybe 855 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: you put it in my head. That's funny. Um, And 856 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: what about your thorn? Thorn is just playing some podunk 857 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: college in the middle of nowhere in front of you know, 858 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: ten people when it's snowing outside, and you know, it's 859 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: just the usual road horror stories. You know, what are 860 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: your what's what are your ingredients for a successful relationship? 861 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: How long have you married? Well, I'm getting divorced, so 862 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: I don't have Yes, I don't have the relationship. I 863 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: do not have the ingredients for a successful relationship. How 864 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: long were you married? Uh, like seventeen years? Wow? Okay, 865 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: I apologize for that question. Then unless unless there's some 866 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: pearls of wisdom about what not to do, because I 867 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of those. I think anyone who's been 868 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: in a relationship proudly has those. I still think you're 869 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: successful if you've been married seventeen years. I still think 870 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: that's a big success. That's a good run. Well, and 871 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: by Hollywood standards, it's not a bad run. I think 872 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: that's a good run. I'm so grateful that you talk 873 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: to me because, uh, you don't need to you talk 874 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: all day. Uh, And I I want to ask you 875 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: one question. What is my if we're doing parent teacher conferences? 876 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: What as the expert as what I consider to be 877 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: an expert in this? What is my grade? And what 878 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: do I need to work on? What? What? What? What? 879 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: What notes do you have for me as a podcast newbie? Wow, 880 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: I've never been asked that before, but that's a good sign. 881 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: I think you're you have natural ability. Uh. I would 882 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: give you a bee. I would day that my only 883 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: tuning up of you would be you have so many 884 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: ideas and then everything reminds you of something. And I'm 885 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: the same way, So I would say if I was 886 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: your podcast coach, I would say, put a put a 887 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: steno pad on your lap, and when the person is 888 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: answering the question and it reminds you of something, just 889 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: write it down on that. Then the personal finish answering 890 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: the question, then you can go, oh and that reminds 891 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: me of that's about the only you know, you're you're. 892 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: You have so many ideas, so much energy, and it's 893 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: all rushing in it at once. That there is a part, 894 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's hard to do, but it's 895 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: really as simple as just sort of listening and going 896 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: that reminds me of something. But I'm just gonna note 897 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: that until we turn the pain age on this question, 898 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: and then we'll segue into that question. You're good at this. Well, 899 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate I was not fishing for 900 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: compas I literally wanted to know because I really enjoy it, 901 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: and you've been doing it for a long time at 902 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: Second Nature, So I really appreciate the conversation. Well, thanks 903 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: for having me. Awesome. I'll have a great day. I 904 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: hope we run into each other at some point. I 905 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: hope so as well. That was Adam Carolla. He is 906 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: a legend in this format and vehicle. Uh. He is 907 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: very honest. He has controversial opinions. I appreciate him coming 908 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: on because it doesn't need to do my podcast, and 909 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: he basically really started the space in my opinion, uh, 910 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: and he has unpopular opinions that he's not afraid to share. 911 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: And this show is about all different opinions and just 912 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: talking and listening and an open conversation versus just arguing 913 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: because you don't agree with someone. I like that aspect 914 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: of it. I like that aspect of lanthropy, and that 915 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: we take money from Democrats and Republicans. I like that 916 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: aspect of this genre because even if I don't agree 917 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: with everything somebody said, I always learned something and I 918 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: like that. And even if you don't agree with something 919 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: somebody said, you know, you don't want to be shut down. 920 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: You want to sort of just here, even if it's 921 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: something you don't want to do or you don't believe in. 922 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: I just think it's good to hear everybody's side. That's 923 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: how I've always been, So I appreciate you. Remember to rate, 924 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: review and subscribe. Also, Adam corola is he's he's so 925 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: successful because he does not filter himself, and that's courageous 926 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: and fearless and honestly. To be successful in the podcast business, 927 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: I think you have to be like that. Just Be 928 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: is hosted by me Bethany Frankel. Just Be as a 929 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: production of Be Real Productions, I Heart Radio and Blue 930 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: Duck media are EPs are Morgan Levois, Antonio Enriquez, and 931 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: Kara hit To catch more moments from the show, follow 932 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: us on Instagram and just be with Bethany b