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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to the final episode of I Saw

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Speaker 1: What You Did. My name is Millie de Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson, and this is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be the last time I'm gonna have to figure

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Speaker 1: something out to say in this part, right.

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Speaker 2: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the last thing is I got to figure out

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Speaker 3: what to say.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like this is uh the last episode, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're uh, I don't know, I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: to what to say. I'm feeling feelings, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we are.

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Speaker 3: And we're also we just did we did our live

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Speaker 3: show a couple of weeks ago, our first only live show.

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Speaker 1: Which said I think I said grand opening, grand closing.

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Speaker 2: Which like, on the one hand.

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Speaker 3: What a move, Like it's a boss move, But on

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Speaker 3: the other.

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Speaker 2: Hand, what a weird move? What a weird move?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's good, right, Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: we talked about this on the episode when we announced

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Speaker 1: that we were leaving. You know, we've we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this in the subsequent episodes up until now. But like

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Speaker 1: we're in a good place. Yeah, you know, Like I

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Speaker 1: think it would be very sad if we were both

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Speaker 1: just makes it you know, it's it's always gonna be sad,

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Speaker 1: but I think it just makes it easier and more hopeful. Right,

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Speaker 1: we have stuff to look forward to, and you know, and.

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Speaker 3: Our listeners can still support us and be part of that.

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Speaker 3: That's also what's what's great is that you know, we

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Speaker 3: don't have to lose the community that we built, the

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Speaker 3: connections that we have to people, because we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: We will, as friends do things in the future, of course,

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Speaker 3: And I think it's just it's a it was a

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Speaker 3: the back just a little bit. We entered a space

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Speaker 3: that is, you know, talking discussing films is predominantly academic, predominantly.

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Speaker 2: Siloed, and predominantly white.

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Speaker 3: Dudes, and we just kind of brought people to a

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Speaker 3: different just to realize there's a different way to enter

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Speaker 2: So and we did like over two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Episodes, man, if you include the bonuses, Yeah, we did

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Speaker 3: a lot so I just I feel like we're ending

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Speaker 2: And that's okay to be proud of yourself.

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Speaker 3: If it's okay for us to just be happy with

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Speaker 3: what we've done. I know that it's easy to take

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Speaker 2: But change is good. Yeah, change is really good.

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Speaker 3: And I think we both always push forward in our

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Speaker 3: sometimes that means things change, but it's not a bad feeling.

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Speaker 3: I think I feel bad if I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: It's wild to me to envision an area where you're

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Speaker 3: kind and thoughtful, very very thoughtful. Well, we'll remind you

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I desperately need you, But.

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Speaker 3: Don't unsubscribe from the social media exactly.

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Speaker 5: Don't unsubscribe just because this will be the this feed

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Speaker 5: so like, well, stay subscribed, don't you know the second

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Speaker 5: you know, Millie's new show.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're going to be on it too. We will,

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Speaker 3: That's the real like it or not part is I'm

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Speaker 3: That's how I learned to become a hacker, is just

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Speaker 1: We're all fam right, and we've heard this a million

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Speaker 3: that people can can latch onto. And you know, when

439
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: my book came out, I didn't do a book tour,

440
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: so I didn't It was, you know, the middle of lockdown.

441
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 3: I just have never really been out there as a

442
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: forward facing person, so I've had to learn how to

443
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: prioritize things in a way that I can do that

444
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: and feel good about it and also still have the

445
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: privacy that I need. And you guys were both really

446
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: great at helping me protect that and teaching me how

447
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: to do that and talking to me about how to

448
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: do that, and so I think it's you know, my

449
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: goal was the.

450
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Was a couple of months ago.

451
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm met in the podcast and then

452
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm disappearing forever. You will not see me on social media,

453
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: good bye. But now I kind of feel like, no,

454
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: I can still maintain my time and my career of

455
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: life and my privacy and the things that I need

456
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: to be a person.

457
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: But it actually feels good.

458
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: And connected to meet people who are into what you do, yes,

459
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: and that you can build a community there too. I

460
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: think I just forgot somewhere along the way that I

461
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: could it's possible for me to also be part of

462
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: the community in that way.

463
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: So thank you both for showing me that as well.

464
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, and like that. Sorry if you didn't go to

465
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: the live show. Uh, it was one of the greatest

466
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: times that I've.

467
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: Had a banger.

468
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: You missed a banger. So for the majority of you

469
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: that weren't there, including Casey.

470
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, but a part of.

471
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: The joy of that evening was just see you interact

472
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: with our fans and they were fucking loving you. Like

473
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: one of my friends texted me while I was we

474
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: were up there on stage, I say stage.

475
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: We were just in.

476
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: Director's chairs on the flat ground or wasn't a stage,

477
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: But one of my friends texted me and was like,

478
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: people were gasping when y'all walked out from behind the

479
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: door or whatever we were at, And I was like, what,

480
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Like that is so strange to hear. But then I

481
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, duh. And then you get on

482
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: stage and you see like all of the funny shit

483
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: that Danielle is saying. People were like she had these

484
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: motherfuckers eating out of her hands. She was so funny

485
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: and telling stories about the you know whatever, like all

486
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: these things, and I just was sitting there like I

487
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: felt like the proud friend that I was just like nodding,

488
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: being like hell yeah, hell yeah, this is exactly what

489
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I want. I'm like, I want to see this, and

490
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: I hope that you felt the love. And it felt

491
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: like love. The entire evening felt like love. So I'm just.

492
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Felt like love in a very hard week to have

493
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: to feel loved exactly. And my favorite moment, which Casey

494
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: Casey knows this intimately, we have had like the things

495
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 3: we have cut from this show could be its own podcasts.

496
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: But.

497
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 5: The one at one Poles I get from Danielle.

498
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: Long voice memos got something like the panic, the panic.

499
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of one episode in particular.

500
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: I panicked and I was like, oh my god, it's

501
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: not like ten text messages in a room. I'm like,

502
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: I know he has a baby. I know this might

503
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 3: I have to tell you have to cut this tomorrow. Tomorrow.

504
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: But we were talking at one point and Millie said

505
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: she was up late at night making beats, and I

506
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: was like, oh, what are you doing.

507
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: With the beats? Like are you stewing them? Are you

508
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: like growing them? And she was like no, Like music beats.

509
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: Encapsulated both my person so specifically, and I could not

510
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: stop laughing even just thinking about.

511
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: It so hard that I was crying. I took like

512
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: on stage, like I was basically like she thought I met.

513
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Beats the Vegas, like red beats.

514
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, she thought I was making them like canning

515
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: them or something else. No, I'm making beats like I'm

516
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: you know, like a rapper or something. And she was

517
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: like the confusion of it was so genuine, and we

518
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: were laughing. Sorry, everybody in the audience was laughing because

519
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: they were like, this is typical shit.

520
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: Like this is, but it's great because it was again like,

521
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: this is something that happens to us constantly. It is

522
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: just encapsulating who we are, and Casey helped us bring

523
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: that out of ourselves. And it's been on the receiving

524
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: end of so much of that confusion and craziness and hilarity.

525
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: And I really feel like we built something together, which

526
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: is also important to me that it's not just like

527
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: I know that Casey's not a forward facing part of

528
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: this this podcast, but we built this podcast together. I

529
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: feel like as soon as he arrived, we were building

530
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: something together. So it'll be missed, it'll all be missed,

531
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: but we still are friends and love each other and

532
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: we'll work on things and do things for ever together

533
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: because it's just you don't want to get rid of

534
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: When you find people who are good that you can

535
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: work with, well, you don't want to get rid of that.

536
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, in this economy, if you find good people that

537
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: you could work with and creative, be creative with, don't lose.

538
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: Them, keep them, do not. But thank you Casey specifically

539
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: for everything.

540
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys both. I really this has just

541
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 5: been a really special show. And I said this before

542
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: we started recording, but like the fact that it's kind

543
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: of we're leaving at the high point, it just feels

544
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: like it's going to live on and it is. You know,

545
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: it's like like you said, you're ending because of positivity,

546
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: not because Millie's in jail or something.

547
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Like I would like, I love how I would be

548
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: the one to be in jail after everything, two hundred

549
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: and forty episodes of Danielle, I'm going to jail.

550
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: That's how it works. It's never the one you think,

551
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: never the one you think it is. It's never the

552
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: one you think.

553
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: But thank you so much for being part of this,

554
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: and also thank you truly, Like we have to take

555
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: a minute to truly thank Karen and Georgia. Karen Kilgariff

556
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: came to Milly with the idea, but Georgia Hardstark was

557
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: also right there in support of us, and we're just like, yeah,

558
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: go do your thing. And I think again, that's a

559
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: really special and wonderful creative and thoughtful creative brain to

560
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: have is to just say, yeah, let's hire great people

561
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: and let them do their thing. So thank you to

562
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: Karen and Georgia and everyone, and exactly right, there's so

563
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: many people that have worked on this show in some

564
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: capacity over the four years and we're just, you know,

565
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: thankful to all of you for your support and your generosity,

566
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: and it really is it's meaningful to us to have

567
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: been able to work with you, So thank you.

568
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Daniel Kramer, our other ep Analis Nelson, Alexi Sama Rossi,

569
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Lauren Brown, very early days, I mean Tom Bryan Fogel,

570
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Garrett who did the artwork, Steven.

571
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: The pilot engineer of the show, Hannah Everywhere, every Aaron Brown,

572
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: absolute champion. Just really a great amount of great people

573
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: working with and for exactly right, have have really helped

574
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: us and we are grateful for it.

575
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: So thank you.

576
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: Finally, last, but definitely not least, I think we have

577
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: to thank our listeners. Yes, our listeners are incredibly wonderful people,

578
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: and you are all so frank with us, And even

579
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: though we're not able to always directly respond to emails, reviews,

580
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: comments on social media, you're part of why we did

581
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: this and how we did this, and it was your

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: feedback and you're being part of building a little community

583
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: with us.

584
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: Was really a delight.

585
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say it's I have done for facing

586
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: ish type of stuff in the past. I mean, I

587
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: did a few podcasts before I did this. One was

588
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: just like a co host didn't run it, but I

589
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: was on podcasts. I had done, you know, programming on

590
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: a national television network and was always getting feedback from

591
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: those things that a lot of it wasn't great. Like

592
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I have been through it when it comes to like

593
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: social media comments, Twitter things like you know, I kind

594
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: of have seen it all in a lot of ways.

595
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I feel I have to say that this podcast has

596
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I have never received more positive comments in my life

597
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: doing anything creative, forward facing. I gotta say, like we

598
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: always had incredible reviews.

599
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: Four point nine the whole time.

600
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had an amazing rating on Apple. We had

601
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: the best reviews, the best social media comments. We very

602
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: rarely got negative feedback, and even when somebody was like

603
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: even if somebody would email me and be like, actually

604
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: that movie wasn't directed, it was with all due respect ladies,

605
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I have you know, it was like very very respectful,

606
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, just if and if anything it was

607
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: it was people like really not wanting to have to

608
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: correct anything, but it was like gingerly like I'm sorry,

609
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: but that actually wasn't the fifteenth President of the United

610
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: States or whatever. You know, Like everybody was so sweet

611
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: and the thing that I think was the most heartwarming

612
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: just for me personally, just knowing my personality of feeling

613
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: like I always need and feel like I need to

614
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: be seen or I want that. I think I really

615
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: want that in life. I felt like our listeners saw

616
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: us a lot and they got the jokes. They got

617
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: the fucking jokes, which is so hard to do when

618
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: you were in a place where you say something like

619
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: random and somebody brings it back like a year and

620
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: a half later and be like, remember that thing that

621
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: you said that was so crazy, Like I remember it

622
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: and I love it and I want to put it

623
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: on a pillow or whatever. I mean, that is magic.

624
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: That is fucking magic. And I just am like, I

625
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: just again, I have to echo what Danielle has said.

626
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: The listeners are so amazing, so funny, so smart. They

627
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: came to this podcast and didn't even like movies, a

628
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of them, and they got into film because of us.

629
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: They you know, expanded their knowledge, they took a chance,

630
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: and I just I love that to me is the

631
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: essence of why I love doing this podcast.

632
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: To not agree more.

633
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: There are people who started degrees in film because they

634
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: listened to the show. There are people who just truly

635
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: changed their own lives and they did it.

636
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: We didn't do it. They did it.

637
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: But that we were encouraging or a part of that

638
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: at all is unbelievable.

639
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: And that they were like comforted by our friendship, which

640
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: means a lot. I mean, that really means a lot

641
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: to us.

642
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you all for being here so much.

643
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Now, on

644
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: that note, we do still have our last couple of

645
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: movies and our last theme that nobody ever guessed the

646
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: entire time the show was running, nobody ever fully guessed

647
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: the theme a lot.

648
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Have you got close?

649
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a game they would have never won.

650
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: That was a cruelty that I inflicted on people for

651
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: having them have to guess every single word, not just

652
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: a general area.

653
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, every single word in the sentence that it. You know,

654
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I was like, they're never going to get this, but god,

655
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: love it, let's just pretend. Let's pretend that they could.

656
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: And it's every single word and the most really complicated,

657
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: borderline insane theme.

658
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: You've ever heard. So this one is not that.

659
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: This theme, our final theme is actually really sweet.

660
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to tell them what it is?

661
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Sure? So our final theme for the final episode, if

662
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: I saw what you did, is the movie that got

663
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: us into movies? Yeah, and that is sweet. That's actually

664
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: all you you suggest to that, And I thought, what

665
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: a great idea to go out on, because yeah, I mean,

666
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool to talk about

667
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: like that one movie that essentially just changed the trajectory

668
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: of our lives, our film lives especially, And so yeah,

669
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I think that's nice to go out on this kind

670
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: of more personal note, right, And also.

671
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was thinking also that it's it's personal,

672
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: But why not end with the beginning?

673
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, let's end with the beginning, because there

674
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: should I want there to be a feeling of Yeah,

675
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: we also had a movie that clicked the light on

676
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: for us in some way in our lives. And maybe

677
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: you'll find that if you go back and re listen

678
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: to some old epps yeah, or maybe just keep pushing

679
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: forward until you do find that. But I thought it

680
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: would be something very nice and sweet about Yeah, we're ending,

681
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: but let's think about the beginning.

682
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

683
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: What brought us to be the kind of people who

684
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: would even make this podcast to begin with?

685
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is always such like I love knowing

686
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: the answer to this question from the people that I

687
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: like and love because I feel it makes me feel

688
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: like I know them better, you know, where I'm like,

689
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: what is the one movie? And I know it's such

690
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a like huge task to ask people that like movies

691
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: to be like, what is the one movie that you

692
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: loved and that got you into movies? I mean, it

693
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: just feels like one of those big questions, like a

694
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: dinner party question almost, But whenever somebody gives it thought

695
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: and like and can express that in a way, it

696
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: makes me feel like I know them a lot better.

697
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, oh, this is sweet

698
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to go out on, because then it makes me feel

699
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: like I know your origin story, you know what I

700
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: mean in a lot.

701
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: Of ways, absolutely, and especially your phil I mean, it's

702
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: both of them for sure, But it is nice to

703
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: know that, like.

704
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the thing that.

705
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: That really clicked for you, and to be able to

706
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: see like, oh, yeah, I can get that.

707
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: I get that from you. This is this makes sense? Yeah,

708
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: well you are first.

709
00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: I am, Oh my god, I'm first. So my movie

710
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: for our theme the movies that got us into movies

711
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: is from nineteen sixty five. It was written by Jack Moran.

712
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: It was directed by Russ Meyer, and it's called Faster Pussycat,

713
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: Kill Kill.

714
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: Jack and Jill.

715
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: They make a mafia look like Brownie. So no, I

716
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody actually knows this, but for the

717
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: past four years I've been writing basically scripts for my

718
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: movies for every episode. Right.

719
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: That is definitely also a difference between the two of

720
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: us personality wise. That Millie, if she wanted to, as

721
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: soon as we end recording, could go into her own

722
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: archive and publish seventeen books based on the essay she's

723
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: written about every movie she brought to the podcast, whereas

724
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: I just like wrote some notes and winged it. Yeah,

725
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: but they both but it worked for both of us.

726
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: That's just our different styles, our different approaches. But you

727
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: could legitimately publishas of text.

728
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: How much you wrote.

729
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I pretty much. A lot of times it

730
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: was word for word, Like I pretty much wrote everything

731
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say, which sounds crazy because I

732
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: said a lot of bullshit, So I can't believe that

733
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: I prepared that. A lot of that there was. I

734
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: think there was maybe one or two times where that

735
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. One of the times was when we

736
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: were recording very early days and I thought that I

737
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: had your movie. Yeah, it was fame, right, Remember we

738
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: bro like we did fame and Step Up. And then

739
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: I realized write before we press record, that I didn't

740
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: have fame and I had Step Up. And you were like,

741
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: of course you do. Why did you think you had fame?

742
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know.

743
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: COVID it was like COVID was raging, so I guess

744
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: maybe I had, you know, pandemic brain. But I was like,

745
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: that was the one of the only times that I

746
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: remember I completely winged it with no notes. But this

747
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: is potentially the second time I didn't write any thing

748
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: for this because I just felt like, you know what, like,

749
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: let me just riff and see what happens to our

750
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: last episode. So so this movie, uh, you know, we've

751
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: done a russ Meyer movie. Prior to this, we did

752
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. So if you want

753
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: to go back and hear a little bit about I

754
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: talk a lot about like russ Meyer's sort of career

755
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: and his entry into film, which was essentially through World

756
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: War Two. I mean, he was one of the directors

757
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: that had taken advantage of this thing that they were

758
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: offering a Hollywood which was basically like training to become

759
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, a World War two photographer out you know,

760
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: over there, and you know basically he kind of, you know,

761
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: learned how to make films through that process and through

762
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: the war, and then came back and was just like,

763
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: now I know how to make movies. And I also

764
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: like Big Boobs. So this is an incredible experience for

765
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: me because now I can just make really well made movies.

766
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: The thing that I like, let's make this TwixT bar

767
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: of my life movies and Big Boobs.

768
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see what happened.

769
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: And like I said in that episode about Beyond the

770
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Valley of the Dolls. You know, we talked a lot

771
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: about him being a filmmaker who was a man, a

772
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: straight man, or was a straight man. He passed away.

773
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: He died actually almost to the day, twenty years ago.

774
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was in September, so it wasn't too

775
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: far off. But we talked a lot about in that

776
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: episode about him being, you know, an exploitation filmmaker who

777
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: a straight man, who was very interested in sex and

778
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: nudity and female bodies, but didn't ever feel like, you know,

779
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: sort of like gross, I guess, is the way to

780
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: put it. And I mean there are films in his

781
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: filmography that sort of maybe are a little bit more

782
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: salacious and kind of you know, hornier than others, for sure,

783
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: But it was this movie that I think really kind

784
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: of crystallized his sort of genuine love and appreciation for women. Yeah,

785
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: and so I'll just tell you a little bit about

786
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: my history of watching this film, which I might have

787
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: talked about in a boutus episode briefly. But so, when

788
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in film school at George State University,

789
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: this was like nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety six, eighty

790
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: ninety seven, I took a film class, and one of

791
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: the professors that I had was this professor Eddie von Mueller,

792
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: who I feel like I've talked about before. He was

793
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: kind of like one of several professors in the the

794
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: film program at GSU at that time that was like

795
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: cool and interesting and was kind of like, you know,

796
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: not one of these like stuffy film professors that was

797
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: like teaching, you know, like montage editing. He was doing

798
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: the basics, but then he was also in operating a

799
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: lot of his own films that he thought were interesting,

800
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of these films were in American independent cinema,

801
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: foreign cinema, you know, anything that you would kind of

802
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: consider like a centophile type of film. And prior to this,

803
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: like when I was in high school, you know, I

804
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: had I wasn't really super raised on film. Both my

805
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: parents were like kind of classically not into film, but

806
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: I was definitely a child of television and VHS era

807
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: video store stuff. I really had to seek all that

808
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: out on my own, and so when I got to college,

809
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: it felt like, oh, here's this like very like formalized

810
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: educational place for me to really like soak in all

811
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: the things that I want. Because back in those days

812
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: when you were in high school in the before the Internet,

813
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: it was really hard to get stuff that you wanted

814
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, you know, I talk about stories about

815
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: how you know, like I would be talking to some

816
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: friend of mind be like, have you seen this like weird? Well,

817
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, kung Fu movie or whatever, and then

818
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: in order to actually want to see that movie, you

819
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: would have to go to the craziest depths to get

820
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: that movie, whether it was looking at Fangoria magazine, at

821
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: Tower Records, and then like writing down a po box

822
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: where you would like send a fucking fifty dollars check

823
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: to get a VHS sent to you and hope.

824
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: That they would send it to you and not just

825
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: take your money and run right right right.

826
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of people who were who

827
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: were doing like dubbing of rare films or cult films

828
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it was that kind of thing where

829
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: you're just like, well, like, godspeed, I hope my mom's

830
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: checkbook works and I will get this VHS tape. But

831
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: there was also video stores in town where I lived

832
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. There was also literally, like I tell a

833
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: story a lot about this guy that I used to

834
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: buy videos from who was a bouncer at a strip club,

835
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: a very legendary strip club here in Atlanta called the

836
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Claremont Lounge. And I used to like, I was like seventeen,

837
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, and I would hand this grown man

838
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: cash money to make me dubs of Asian films, basically.

839
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: Like the story a trunk by the side of the

840
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: trunk of a car the parking lot and.

841
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: It's some part of the city that I'm not familiar with.

842
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had this stapled It was basically

843
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: like four pages of typed out film titles that he

844
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: owned in his catalog, in his collection, right, and it

845
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: was stapled together and it was folded in half long

846
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: ways and shoved in the back of his pocket. And

847
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: when he was working, you could be like, you know, hey,

848
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I was wondering if maybe do you have a car,

849
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: do you have the wrote trio? Like, do you have

850
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever, the one arm executioner. I really

851
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: want to see that, And then you know, pull out

852
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: his list and be like, yeah, yes, I do have that,

853
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: and then you would hand him fifty dollars in cash

854
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: and then he would in two weeks come back with

855
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: a you know, eighth generation dub of a Maggie Chung movie,

856
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: and that was how you got.

857
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: Movies by then.

858
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: It was crazy. I can't believe what I'm saying that.

859
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: So there's this is the era that I was in,

860
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: was that I was just starved for stuff. And so

861
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: when I went to film school, Uh, I was just like,

862
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm here. I hated fucking high school. I hated all

863
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: those assholes I went to high school with. And so

864
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: now I'm downtown, I'm in a film program, and I'm

865
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: just so I just want it all. I want to

866
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I want to observe and be a part of the

867
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: city and you know, work at the radio station, work

868
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: in the movie theater, and be in the film And

869
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: so I remember this was probably the first or second

870
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: class on my freshman year at GSU. We did a uh.

871
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: I was in a like a film one on one class,

872
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: and in this movie, Faster postcat Kill was screened and

873
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: it was literally life changing for me. I mean for

874
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: so many reasons. Number one, I had never really seen

875
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: an exploitation film before, right, and from the kind of

876
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: classic exploitation era right as now we know as part

877
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: of this kind of like you know, fifties, sixties you

878
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: know of these classic characters like Russ Meyer, Herschel, Gordon Lewis,

879
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, Doris Wishman, all these filmmakers that were kind

880
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: of working in American exploitation films in the fifties and sixties.

881
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: So I've never seen a movie like that before. I

882
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: had seen very little in black and white, like I

883
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: just really hadn't. I hadn't seen many black and white films,

884
00:47:51,160 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: and I never seen a movie where there were a

885
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: women as protagonists in this very pronounced way with their

886
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: bodies out basically, like their butts and their boobs were out,

887
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: and they were like flourishing. Like I had had such

888
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: issues with my own ethnicity, yeah, right, as kind of

889
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: a bigger girl who was who had big boobs, who

890
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: had a big ass, you know, and being half Asian, right,

891
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I always had issues with that. And so I was like, Okay,

892
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: so you're telling me that there are three women in

893
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: this film who are the stars of this film. Two

894
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: of them are literally half Filipino, which is so insane

895
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: to me that I would even know that they were

896
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: half Filipino, Like, I mean turists Aitana, who is the

897
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: star of this film. She plays varl you know, she

898
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, is essentially you know, her father was a

899
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: Japanese actor, but he was a Filipino descent. Her mother

900
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: was Native American. She had had such an insane life,

901
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: like she was in an internment camp in America during

902
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: World War Two. She suffered rape and sexual abuse. She

903
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: was an exotic dancer. She had such a life, you know,

904
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: and most of these people did at this time. I mean,

905
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: this is a thing. If you were a woman working

906
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: in this industry, like in this era, you there were

907
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: things like you had a lot of things. But she

908
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: was like the first character I think in a movie

909
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: that I was ever like, I feel connected to this

910
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: woman in a way that I've never felt connected to

911
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: in any other film character.

912
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: Right, That's powerful. It was.

913
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean it was to me in such an intense way.

914
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: And Haji, who was another actress in the film. Who

915
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: is funny because when I first saw this film, you've

916
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: got basically these three women. You know, Terris Aitana is Varla,

917
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: Hajji is Rosie, and Laurie Williams is Billy. Right, and

918
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Laurie Williams is the beautiful buxom blonde character. Right, She's there,

919
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: but these other two women are clearly there's something there.

920
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: They're there there, there's an ethnicity to them, and you

921
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: can't You don't really know what I think at first,

922
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: although I kind of clocked Varla being half Asian. When

923
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: I first saw Hajji, I was like, is she Italian?

924
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: She kind of has an Italian accent her name Haji.

925
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's Middle Eastern. It was very

926
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: like vague to me, but all I knew was that

927
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: she had she looked like somebody like me and the

928
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: women that I knew in my life, right, Haji in fact,

929
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: is Wasian just like me, half Filipino and half British,

930
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: and I it's just like that fucking rocked me. I

931
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so you're telling me that there's not one,

932
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: but two half Filipinos in a movie where they're beautiful

933
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: the o their bodies are on display, which I was

934
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: again like I couldn't believe what I was seeing, and

935
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: they're running shit this entire movie. If, by the way

936
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: one sentence synopsis stuff I hadn't said it already, three

937
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: women go to the desert and just start beaten up.

938
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Men, killing men.

939
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: With their bare hands, with their bare hands, How could you.

940
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: Not like a movie like that, what a sentence, what

941
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 3: a synopsis, But it's true and they're What I also

942
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: love about this movie is that, yes, there's a multitude

943
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: of representation in the film right away, but also that

944
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: they're kind of villainous, like they're not meant to be adored,

945
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: They're not meant to be revered, they are meant to

946
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: be feared.

947
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's something that at the time when I

948
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: saw this movie in nineteen ninety seven, I had never

949
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: seen that. We talk a lot about. I mean, we

950
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: have talked and discussed many films on this podcast up

951
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: until now that are about complicated female characters.

952
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: Right.

953
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: I think that you and I are both the age

954
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: where we had grown up with you know, the fucking

955
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: Kelly Kapowski's, the fucking you know, like all of these

956
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: like cheerleader types, well meaning good girls that got the

957
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: boys in the end, and this kind of stuff to

958
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: watch movies that feature women who are complicated and who

959
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: sometimes make poor choices and sometimes don't know how to

960
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: navigate their lives in the best ways. I think was

961
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: I think it was a revelation first both because it

962
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: meant that we weren't going to have to be in

963
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: this structure of femininity or womanhood that was served to us, right.

964
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very prescriptive for most of our childhood

965
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 3: how to be an acceptable quote unquote women in the world.

966
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: So film was for you and for me, I think

967
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: a way that we literally saw a different way of being.

968
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this and this is to your exact point.

969
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: I think this is why this movie resonated with me,

970
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: is that it was like, Oh, these women are actually villains.

971
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: They're actually killing people, and they don't give a shit.

972
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: They literally don't give a shit. Varla is one of

973
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: the most sociopathic characters ever been an exploitation film. And

974
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm also like, thank god, Like there's a moment where

975
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't think I've ever seen

976
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: somebody like this before, Like yeah at all, Like even

977
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: maybe to this day, it really empowered me seeing these

978
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: women out there. And like, again, I think that there's

979
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: various degrees of psychosis happening in this film with these women,

980
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: because you have Varlaw, who's kind of the gang leader.

981
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: Guess what she is in a I mean I wouldn't

982
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: even say it's coded. I think they do allude to it.

983
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: She's in a lesbian relationship with Rosie the Hausey character.

984
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: The way that they speak to each other is if

985
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: they're in a relationship. I mean, that's groundbreaking for nineteen

986
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: sixty five, and I appreciated that as someone. I mean,

987
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm a cishet woman, but I appreciated seeing that type

988
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: of relationship in a movie because it felt very fresh,

989
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, at the time.

990
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: And it wasn't used in a way that was overbearing

991
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: or performative. It was really subtle in a way that

992
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: helped enhance what you thought their relationship could be, and

993
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: it helped. I think it just pushed the viewer into

994
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: being more active, because it had to at that time.

995
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: But it also wasn't like look at like, look at

996
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: these two big boob lesbians going at it. It wasn't for

997
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: the male gaze.

998
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I think the like, you know, adding

999
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: to this is the Billy character again, the uh Lorie

1000
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: Williams character. She's the blonde kind of buxom. They're all boxom,

1001
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: but you know, the blonde woman. She she's arguably the

1002
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: most sexual of them all, where she's literally like are

1003
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: we fucking or what like? That's kind of her standard

1004
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: operating procedure. It's just like I want to have a

1005
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: good time. I get my kicks, I do what I

1006
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: want to do. I sleep with men, I drink, I

1007
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: like tip party and I don't care yep. Again for

1008
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, you're like, oh, like, oh, there's a

1009
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: woman who's like completely in charge of her own life

1010
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: and her own faculty, and this is this is how

1011
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: she acts. So it's wonderful. It was wonderful to see

1012
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: as a young.

1013
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 3: Woman, nobody forever, for a very long time, in film

1014
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 3: and in real life, nobody really gave a shit about

1015
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: female pleasure or what women wanted or liked. And in

1016
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: this instance, yeah, they like killing, but they also liked

1017
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, like the Billie character, they just wanted to

1018
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 3: be free.

1019
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: They wanted some access point to freedom. So that was

1020
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: really impactful.

1021
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And I think that the other interesting component

1022
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: about this film, which I feel like is sort of

1023
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: the thing that people forget, because I do think that

1024
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: the film is largely about the trio of women. Obviously,

1025
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: how could you not how could it not be about them?

1026
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: But there's a character in the film, so basically, you know,

1027
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: like like I said, I'm not going to go through

1028
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: the plot. I'm just saying, like in order to establish

1029
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: what the film is about. It's like these women are

1030
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: in the desert. They're you know, racing cars with each other,

1031
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: and then they come across a young couple. It's basically

1032
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: like the guy is like an all American dork, the

1033
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: girl is like basically a gidget tricksy ish girl, and

1034
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: Varla ends up killing her boyfriend and they kidnap her,

1035
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: and they basically come across a family that lives in

1036
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: the desert, which kind of reminds me of the family

1037
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: from the Texas Chainsawmaskar. It's like a weird old guy

1038
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair, and then like his two weird sons, right,

1039
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: and they kind of you know, go to their property.

1040
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: They find out that he has a lot of money,

1041
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: and so Varla's like, guess what we're getting that money?

1042
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: So let's figure them out so we can steal their

1043
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: money and then make out, you know, like bandits or whatever.

1044
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: There's the two son characters. They're very different. One is

1045
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, a very kind of i don't know, like

1046
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of like the guy that's running the household. You know,

1047
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: he's a very responsible, stand up guy. And then The

1048
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: other one, who is played by the actor Dennis Bush,

1049
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: is called by his own father the Vegetable, and all

1050
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: he is is these this beefy, brawny, muscular guy that

1051
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: has seems like he's suffered some trauma in his life

1052
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: and maybe has some cognitive issues. But he's like basically

1053
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: like a gentle giant, if you will, and but is

1054
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: also triggered to kill at a moment's notice. So it's

1055
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: very complicated. But the way in which this character, this

1056
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: vegetable character, is presented on screen is just as equally

1057
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: i would say, salacious as the way the women are filmed.

1058
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: This guy is, his ass is always on camera.

1059
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay, they always are filmed from behind always.

1060
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen rus Meyer. It might be a straight

1061
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: guy and loves women's bodies, but he loved this man's body.

1062
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say. They were like his arms, his back.

1063
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: There was like a part where he's like basically like

1064
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: lifting ways he's doing like an overhead press, and like

1065
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: Billy's walking around and being like what's upstud, And she's

1066
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: like touching his back muscles and his shoulders. I mean,

1067
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: it's like.

1068
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: He's just always slamming eggs, like cardboiled eggs.

1069
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Well, but like he I'm saying, I think The Vegetable

1070
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: is being shot from a female point of view. Like

1071
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: there's even in the midst of this movie where these

1072
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: women or their boobs are popping out and their butts

1073
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: are hanging out, and you could feel kind of aggressively hetero,

1074
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: even though I don't really think it's hetero. I think

1075
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of campy. There's a camp to it

1076
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: that's not it really like removes the sting of the

1077
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: fact that there's a straight white guy filming him. I

1078
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it. I don't know, but

1079
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: I think part of it is that this character, the

1080
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: vegetable character, is also being shot in a way that

1081
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: makes him look hot and sexually attractive, and so it's

1082
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: kind of like a horny movie for both men and

1083
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: women essentially. But anyway, needless say, I won't give away

1084
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: the ending because I mean, I think you know how

1085
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna end up. It's very simple sixties expectation

1086
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: movies were very simple back then. But to wrap it up,

1087
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: I just have to say, like seeing this movie really

1088
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: changed my whole life. I mean, it's the movie that

1089
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: got me into cult movies, right, I have had a

1090
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: really great career in that world for over twenty years now,

1091
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: and it's because of this movie. Like I, if I

1092
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: hadn't seen this movie, I certainly probably wouldn't have ever

1093
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: started TCIM Underground. I wouldn't have written a book about

1094
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: cult movies. I wouldn't be, you know, for the most part,

1095
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: a semi authority or an authority on cult movies and

1096
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: get asked to do DVD commentaries and talk about cult films.

1097
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what launched a thousand ships. And

1098
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the biggest reason why I

1099
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: love it so much is that it felt like I

1100
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: was being shown a world that was possible for me

1101
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: as a half Asian woman, and as a woman who

1102
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: you know basically has always felt very not great about

1103
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: her own body and her own sexuality, as much as

1104
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: every woman on the planet feels that way, you know

1105
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was like, here's like the best

1106
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: version of who I could be in a weird way.

1107
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill anybody, but I do think

1108
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: the occasional karate chop to the neck would be kind

1109
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: of fun. Non lethal, non lethal, A respectful karate chop.

1110
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: To the neck. It's I could get out of my

1111
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: way moment.

1112
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love a black driving glove, you know,

1113
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: but but I love it. I love this movie. It

1114
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: made it made me feel powerful and capable and sexual

1115
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: and sexy and Asian and everything. It just really blew

1116
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: my mind so great.

1117
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: So glad that you brought this one to the pod.

1118
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: I know we have talked about it off Mike. I

1119
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: know that it's, you know, part of your book. I

1120
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: know that it's like a part of your life and

1121
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: development as a film critic and as someone who is

1122
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: an authority, not a semi authority, who is an authority

1123
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: on cult films, And it's just it's a it's a

1124
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: really it's really great to go back and watch this

1125
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: film from from the lens of my my forty seven

1126
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: year old eyes. Yeah, because I think it's it can't

1127
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: help but be impactful to everyone who.

1128
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: Sees it for the first time.

1129
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely like an influential film in the cult

1130
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: movie world. I mean there's so many references to it

1131
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean it's part of like, you know,

1132
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: death Proof by Tarantino. I mean, the Cramps probably would

1133
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: half exist if it wasn't for this movie. I mean,

1134
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: they called one of their albums Smell a Female. It's

1135
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: just like, you know, there's a lot, a lot, a

1136
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: lot of things happened culturally because of a movie of

1137
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: this movie in particular, and I think it's actually besides

1138
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, I think it's probably

1139
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: the other most successible Russ Meyer movie if you want

1140
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: to just like kind of jump into his world, which

1141
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: is a wild world. I'm not going to deny that,

1142
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: but it's like, I feel like this movie is the

1143
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: best one to do that.

1144
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: Could not agree more. Start here, you will not be disappointed.

1145
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I've gone on way too long about my life.

1146
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: What about your life? Your movie life?

1147
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: No such thing.

1148
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: Movie that I brought for our final episode, the movie

1149
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 3: that got us into movies. The screenplays by Dan O'Bannon.

1150
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: The director was Ridley Scott. And I'm of course talking

1151
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: about alien.

1152
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: How do we kill it?

1153
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: Ash, there's gotta be a way of killing it?

1154
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: How how do we do it?

1155
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: You're cold?

1156
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you a one sentence synopsis.

1157
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: Ignoring a woman who says no, kills an entire space

1158
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: crew and they fucking deserve it sounds like you now,

1159
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: prior to this week, I probably would have come up

1160
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: with something like funny or quirky or whatever, but I'm like, no,

1161
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: that's pretty.

1162
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: Much what this movie is about.

1163
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: On its face, though, it is about a crew, a

1164
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: seven member crew of a kind of like a commercial

1165
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: towing vehicle in space and it's on its way back

1166
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: to Earth. They receive distress signal from somewhere. They go

1167
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: check it out and one of their crew members gets

1168
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: hugged in the face by an alien and they fill

1169
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of time try to figure out like

1170
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: should we let him in?

1171
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: Should we not let him in?

1172
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: And Ellen Ripley, who I Will get into the star

1173
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: of the movie, the primary character of the film, is like, no,

1174
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: we shouldn't let him in, and they ignore her, and

1175
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: then the whole movie happens, Oh I Will.

1176
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: Isn't that always the way?

1177
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, always the way? So let me first

1178
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: tell you who's in this film.

1179
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: Ellen Ripley, who goes by Ripley, is the protagonist of

1180
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: the film, played by Sigourney Weaver, and she's kind of

1181
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: like a just a third officer on the ship, like

1182
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what her job is, but I

1183
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: think it involves like warrants or something. The captain of

1184
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: the ship Dallas Captain Dallas played by Tom Skarett, who

1185
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: we talked about at length during our Seal Magnolia's review.

1186
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: In the live show, a lot of.

1187
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: People were mad that we didn't record that. I was like, sorry,

1188
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: had to be there once again.

1189
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: Also, and this might be an unpopular opinion, I think

1190
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: live recordings of podcasts are impossible to listen to because

1191
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: so much of what they are doing is on a

1192
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: screen behind them, or it did a visual joke that

1193
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: you will not get, and nobody takes the time to

1194
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: stop and explain what's going on. So and even the

1195
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: podcast that I love, when they're like we're doing a

1196
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: live episode, I'm not listening because I know that it

1197
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: will be a different flavor and it is meant to

1198
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: only be important or useful to the people in the room.

1199
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: Like, let it just be its own thing.

1200
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 3: You don't have to I don't every want to listen

1201
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: to a live recording of a podcast.

1202
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: Personally.

1203
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: You said that very early days of this podcast, and

1204
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I'm with you. I love right,

1205
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: like good We don't have to haul fucking Casey out

1206
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: to wherever with all a bunch of equipment to record

1207
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: us talking about stuff like I was, like, I'm on board,

1208
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: but not doing a live episode.

1209
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: So it's it's just a different beast. It's just a

1210
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: different thing.

1211
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, go and support the live episodes of

1212
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 3: the podcast that you love, but stop stop asking them

1213
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: to record them and make it available to everyone. It

1214
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: is a different experience.

1215
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Plus there's a magic in person. You got to

1216
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: go to live show. Sorry, you don't just get the

1217
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: internet for all your needs. Sometimes you actually got to

1218
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: go outside and look at us and cry with us.

1219
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: Come on, look us in the eyeball.

1220
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, that we did not record the live episode,

1221
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: but we did talk about Tom Scarett. You also have

1222
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: the engineer of the ship played by Engineer Kine, who's

1223
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 3: played by John Hurt, legendary film act, legendary actor of

1224
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: stage screen. The navigator is Lambert, who's played by Veronica Cartwright.

1225
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: You have a kind of a tech a tech guy

1226
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: like an engineering tech guy played by Harry Dean Stanton.

1227
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: His name is Brett. The science officer. His name is

1228
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 3: Ash played by Ian Holme, and the chief engineer is

1229
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: Parker played by Yafet Codo.

1230
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: One thing that is also.

1231
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: Really was really influential about this movie was the way

1232
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: that the movie looked and the way that the reason

1233
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 3: for that and the reason the movie looked very futury

1234
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 3: and kind of greasy and kind of scary was because

1235
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 3: the xenomorph, the villain in the movie, the alien, was

1236
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: based on drawings by hr Geiger. And you either know

1237
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 3: nothing about hr Geiger or you had a boyfriend when

1238
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: you were nineteen and everything about hr.

1239
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: Geiger, that's right. His art is intense and specific and

1240
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: very cool, but it can be overwhelming if you don't care,

1241
01:08:58,560 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: like if you don't care about H. R.

1242
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: Giger, be overwhelming to hear about their career. But I

1243
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: employ you to go look at some of their work.

1244
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 3: And I also I'm gonna kind of I do have notes,

1245
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: but I'm talking loosely about the movie because I feel

1246
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: like this is one of those films that you've either

1247
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 3: definitely seen or just have to this point not wanted

1248
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 3: to see, so either know about it or you don't.

1249
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: But this movie basically starts with everyone sleeping in their

1250
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 3: pods like The Distress. The Distress signal comes through to

1251
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: the computer interface on the ship that they call Mother,

1252
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 3: and I could write and I'm not even exaggerating, I

1253
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: could write a doctoral thesis about feminism and the alien movies.

1254
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, please, the reception of women in the

1255
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: Alien franchise.

1256
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Okayn, I just write a book, like does it have

1257
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: to be?

1258
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: Uh? It could be a book. It could be a book.

1259
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: But I immediately go to academia because I would. I

1260
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: could slice and dice up the themes and the representations

1261
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: in these films all day long. I'm not gonna do

1262
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 3: that to you. I won't punish you with our last episode.

1263
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 3: But Mother, who is this again? This computer system interface

1264
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 3: kind of gets this message.

1265
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: But everyone's sleeping in their pod.

1266
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,919
Speaker 3: And they all sleep in like these big old diapers,

1267
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: like they're just chilling in these little futuristic pods and

1268
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 3: these little diapers. And at the time that I saw

1269
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: this movie for the first time, which of course, again

1270
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: was way too young.

1271
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: I saw this when I was.

1272
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: Like eight or nine years old, and at the time,

1273
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: I thought, all of these people are fifty years old.

1274
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: They all looked like full on old ass adults to me,

1275
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: and watching it in recent years, I've never seen any

1276
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 3: of these actors look younger.

1277
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: They were absolute babies.

1278
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: And this even Harry Dean Stanton, who I think was

1279
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: born looking like he was seventy years old.

1280
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like a baby in this movie.

1281
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: He came out the womb like smoking a cigarette, being

1282
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: like avenge me.

1283
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: Ah.

1284
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: Imagine a baby popping out and asking for a sig

1285
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to be born and ripped SIGs. Let's go,

1286
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 3: I've already been born. Let's get these fresh lungsome action.

1287
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: And this is also this is something about this cast

1288
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 3: of characters is when you first meet them, they're just

1289
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: kind of waking up and having a meal. But there's

1290
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 3: so much about these early scenes that are that are stunning.

1291
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 3: Because the early scenes of the film are very quiet.

1292
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 3: It's very quiet and normal, normal, and that you expect

1293
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: to see a space crew kind of sleeping in pods

1294
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: and waking up just to eat and go back to

1295
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: their pods because they're on their way back to Earth

1296
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: that could take weeks to get there. But it's a

1297
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 3: really quiet ear and it grows into an eerie quietness

1298
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: over time. But there is also in this first scene

1299
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: of them all being together, a real look at how

1300
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: reckless people were with space in the nineteen seventies because

1301
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: they are all smoking cigarettes.

1302
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: They have flame throwers, like.

1303
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: There is no there are a lot of officers and

1304
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: engineers on this ship. There is no safety engineer on

1305
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: this ship because they are all smoking full hand rolled

1306
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,799
Speaker 3: cigarettes in space.

1307
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: Yo, I think the era is real thin up there.

1308
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: I'd be real thin.

1309
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: Would like, let me ask you, would you smoke a

1310
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 1: cigarette on a spaceship?

1311
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely not you how much oxygen has to be in

1312
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 3: those things just to keep you alive?

1313
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: I know, I was like, I kind of thought that

1314
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: if open fire happened in space, it just explodes or something.

1315
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: Is that. I'm not a scientist. I don't know if

1316
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: that's actually true, but I just always felt like.

1317
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 2: That would happen.

1318
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: I definitely think it would explode in a vessel that

1319
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 3: is enclosed, that is containing tons of oxygen tanks on it.

1320
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: Like if it was like silent running with Bruce Dern,

1321
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: if you were living in that in that bubble, you

1322
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: could probably rip a sick maybe like let a dube

1323
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: or something, but not on a spaceship.

1324
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: Right, just everywhere on the spaceship they're smoking.

1325
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: And then again at one point, somebody literally brings out

1326
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: a fucking flame thrower, and I'm like, who.

1327
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,440
Speaker 2: We even got that on board?

1328
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: Much damage you're gonna do with a flamethrower on a spaceship?

1329
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: It's going on, and it's one of those old seventies

1330
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: style flamethrowers where the flame is just always going.

1331
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: It looks like a like a tiki torch.

1332
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm like, who approve this? This ship is wild?

1333
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 3: This ship is wild. So Tom Scarett Dallas, the captain,

1334
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: intercepts this message as he kind of wakes up and

1335
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: is like, hey, mother, like what's going on?

1336
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: What do we miss?

1337
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, there's a fucking message from somewhere.

1338
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: Maybe you should check it out.

1339
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: So they start to argue about whether or not they

1340
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: need to go and engage in this rescue, but they

1341
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: do kind of go, but they take the little ship,

1342
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, they disengage from the big ship and they

1343
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: take the little ship down to investigate, and all of

1344
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 3: the old tech on the ship is very like Joy

1345
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: Division cover kind of looks it's like, oh, Joy Division Cover.

1346
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: It's like that's where they got that from. And the

1347
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: ship breaks while it's landing, probably because it's covered in

1348
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: nicotine and fire.

1349
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ship's like I've had it.

1350
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: So their little ship breaks and they have to kind

1351
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 3: of dry dock for a little bit. But they go

1352
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 3: and investigate this vessel on this abandoned planet, and they

1353
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 3: send a small group out to the terrain and they

1354
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 3: do find something mysterious. It again looks like a ship.

1355
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: They go in because they have their board. I don't

1356
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: know what that's their job. I don't know they went in.

1357
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: I would not have been like, you could send me

1358
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 3: back to Earth. I'll be in my pod right. But

1359
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: inside this ship they find a bunch of eggs with

1360
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: quote organic life moving around inside. So you know when

1361
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: you were a kid, like you shine a flashlight on

1362
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: a chicken, an egg with a little chicken side, you

1363
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: can see like all the membranes.

1364
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: That's what this looked like.

1365
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: And instead of running from it, they poke at it

1366
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 3: until one opens up and splays itself all over the

1367
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: face of John Hurt.

1368
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 2: No Way, And I'm like, that's what you get for poken.

1369
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: Eggs on a spaceship and an abandoned planet. Like, I

1370
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: don't care what kind of science you're into. There are

1371
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 3: protocols for you interacting with that egg.

1372
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's real loosey goosey right now

1373
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: up here, but like, you gotta you gotta be careful.

1374
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 3: You gotta have some standards, man like for your own safety.

1375
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: Clearly because this thing, which we now call a face

1376
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 3: hugger attaches itself to Caine. So now everyone's like, uh,

1377
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: what is going on. Ripley is like, do not open

1378
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 3: the hatch. We have a twenty four hour quarantine process

1379
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: for when shit like this possibly happens. Every single all

1380
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 3: six other people all the ship are like, no, let

1381
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: him in. We gotta save him. Just throw the book

1382
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: out the window. And they let her. They ignore her

1383
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: and let him in. So now they're trying to save

1384
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 3: him quote unquote. So Ash the Science tech is like

1385
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 3: trying to figure out and Dallas and like, well, we

1386
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: can't actually get it off his face because every time

1387
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: we touch it, it tightens its grip around it's his neck.

1388
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: Let's just slide Caine into the wall and scan him.

1389
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: So they just slide him into a wall and scan

1390
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: his body, and that's when they realize there's like a

1391
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: tendril from the face hugger is stuck down his throat

1392
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 3: and they think it's feeding him Oxygen's like, oh, this

1393
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 3: is now a symbiotic relationship where this thing is keeping

1394
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 3: him alive and we can't cut it off.

1395
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 2: How awesome.

1396
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 3: The cool news is they do cut into it and

1397
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 3: the alien's blood is fucking acid just starts eating through

1398
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 3: the floor of the spaceship. Again, who is in charge

1399
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 3: of making sure this spaceship can say viable with these

1400
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: fuckers on board?

1401
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: They're like the jackass guys. It's like, let's just cut

1402
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: it off.

1403
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 3: And then it's acid and they're like, let's say where

1404
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 3: the acid goes. But even better news, they go back

1405
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: and check on Caane and the face hugger is gone, right.

1406
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: So Ripley in the midst of this is like, I

1407
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't trust ass.

1408
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 3: He seems to you pushing real hard for this alien

1409
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 3: to survive, for us to not hurt it. But Cain

1410
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 3: kind of wakes up and seems fine. And also in

1411
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,520
Speaker 3: this scene you have to pay attention to the fact

1412
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,520
Speaker 3: that Kane John Hurt is wearing a lace up onesie,

1413
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: like a deep V lace up onesie, which is such

1414
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: a weird choice. But they kind of like, what, what's

1415
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: the last thing you remember, like, you remember this acid

1416
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: filled alien hug in your face and he's like, no,

1417
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: the last thing I remember is a dream about smothering.

1418
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: You're like, yep, that's normal.

1419
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: That tracks carry on as usual because they go just

1420
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 3: go and have one more meal. They're like, all right,

1421
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 3: the face hugger is gone. Kin seems fine, Let's just

1422
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 3: go eat and go back to our pods, right, And

1423
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 3: it's all happy and good, smoking cigarettes, playing with a

1424
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 3: flame flower until the iconic scene where the alien baby

1425
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: that has clearly embedded itself in his body burst out

1426
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: of his chest. Yes, and it has been parried several times,

1427
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: It's been parted spaceballs.

1428
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: It is fucking disgusting looking. This little head pops out and.

1429
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 3: Then these tiny, tiny teeth, tiny like steel teeth, and

1430
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: this tiny, tiny jaw opens up and just goes ah

1431
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: and scurries across the fucking table and leaves.

1432
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: I have to ask, what were you thinking when you

1433
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: first saw this scene? What how do were you feeling

1434
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: when you saw this for the first time.

1435
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: I was terrified because I've already gone through the poultugeist

1436
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: scene of the chicken with the maggots on it, so

1437
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm already prepped to think anything could burst out of

1438
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: my body at any time.

1439
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: It was terrifying, and it didn't.

1440
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: It looks comical now, it doesn't look like it was

1441
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: clearly a puppet obviously, so it looks very comical now,

1442
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: but at the time it's just this like blood and

1443
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: ooze covered thing. Yeah, and it bursts out of his

1444
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: chest in such a violent way that it also destabilized

1445
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,480
Speaker 3: the film because you're like, well, I don't.

1446
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: Know what had happen next.

1447
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: Now we're dealing with an alien on the loose, and

1448
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 3: the crew has no idea what it is or how

1449
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,440
Speaker 3: to combat it. So it was both disgusting and terrifying,

1450
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: but also wildly exhilarating to watch this saying jump back

1451
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 3: and chest.

1452
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: That's what I think is so interesting about watching a

1453
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: movie like this as such a young person, because I've

1454
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: actually heard from like several people, like some several of

1455
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: my friends who when they saw this movie for the

1456
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: first time as a young person, they were like, this

1457
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: scene particularly changed something in me, like like made me

1458
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: a horror movie maniac, like got me really into science fiction,

1459
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: like something where they were just like, oh, yeah, I

1460
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:45,520
Speaker 1: was completely freaked out but then it also rewired my brain. Absolutely.

1461
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: I think that's why I picked it too, because up

1462
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: to this point, my grandmother had been showing me horror

1463
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 3: movies and sci fi movies, you know from the fifties

1464
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: sixties is. She loved you know, all the ogs like

1465
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: you know, Swamp Thing and the original monster movies, but

1466
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 3: she also loved all the og science fiction movies.

1467
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: And this one felt different. This this movie.

1468
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 3: From the first time I saw it, it felt like

1469
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: it was showing me a different way to tell a story. Yeah,

1470
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: and I was sucked the fucking Yeah, I bet I

1471
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 3: was onto it.

1472
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: This really did.

1473
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: And it also helped me to see my own place

1474
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 3: in a science fiction future because there were women on

1475
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: the ship and black people on the ship. Yeah, And

1476
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 3: it was life changing in that way to see that

1477
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: as a kid and to think, oh, in the future,

1478
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: I could be this kind of like this could happen,

1479
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,520
Speaker 3: or this could be a future.

1480
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: That we're working towards.

1481
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: A in a broadway, but in a specific way, I

1482
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: was I'm like, this is Coole ast shit.

1483
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that to this day, like that scene is so jarring.

1484
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: It's kind of is the most It is the most

1485
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: famous scene I think of maybe the entire franchise, and

1486
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: it's like one of the most iconic scenes I think

1487
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: in film history too.

1488
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: I gotta say, what if it's not list, I will

1489
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 3: make that list and put it at the top for sure.

1490
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 3: The only other I think more iconic image from any

1491
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: of the Alien movies in the franchise is the I

1492
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 3: believe it's in three where the alien like Ripley's face

1493
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 3: is kind of turned against the ship.

1494
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 2: And the alien is right against her freezing. Yeah.

1495
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the other iconic but you know, I yeah, definitely, yeah,

1496
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: this is the first I had seen. When I saw

1497
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: this movie for the first time, I jumped when that.

1498
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so nothing about that scene is expected because you think, oh,

1499
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 3: we've seen them have dinner before, we've seen them, you know,

1500
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,919
Speaker 3: cutting up before they go back to their pods.

1501
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: We did not.

1502
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: We'd never seen anything like this, nothing like this. So

1503
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: now they're all looking for the fucking alien that burst

1504
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: out of Kyne's chest. Kine's dead. They're like, peace out.

1505
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: They shoot him out of the ship and into the

1506
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 3: fucking atmosphere. They're like, let space have you and do

1507
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: what it will because you're truly which they should have

1508
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 3: done from the beginning, but then of course again the

1509
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 3: movie wouldn't exist. But this is also where we learned

1510
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: there's a cat on board. There's an orange cat called Jonesy,

1511
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: who I love. And once you meet this cat, if

1512
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: you're an animal lover or an animal person at all,

1513
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: once you meet this cat, all you can think of is,

1514
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 3: please do not let this alien eat this cat.

1515
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 1: I know, please do, sir.

1516
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: That is such a big part of the rest of

1517
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 3: the movie. For me is like where is Josie?

1518
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: Where is Josi? But it adds to the fear.

1519
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: And again, if you're a little kid and you love

1520
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: animals and you're like, am I gonna be watching a

1521
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 3: cat get eaten up?

1522
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,919
Speaker 2: Like please don't. So everyone's looking for Jonesy.

1523
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: Brett harrydan Stan's character is looking for Jonesy, and at

1524
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 3: one point he picks up this this what looks like

1525
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: a loose skin, like an like a snake shedding its skin,

1526
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 3: which is how we learn that the xenomorph, the alien

1527
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 3: is growing. And when I say growing, it goes from

1528
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 3: baby to minute bowl in like twenty minutes. Ha, this

1529
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: thing is fucking massive in twenty minutes. And then it

1530
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: like when you see it again. It has a mouth

1531
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: within a mouth like it's growing extra parts of itself.

1532
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 3: It's it's ceaseless. It's a ceaseless alien.

1533
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: That is growing in huge proportions.

1534
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: So Brett at one point is looking for it and

1535
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 3: he kind of just stands under this this dripping water, which, again,

1536
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: what is going on with this ship?

1537
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: Dripping water is bad news for a spaceship.

1538
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 1: I know, there is just probably a leak somewhere, right.

1539
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: It should be bad news. Like also, that's probably not

1540
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: just water like, but he's standing in.

1541
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 3: It like like like tourists Atana in our film earlier

1542
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: taking a bath in a water tower. That's Brett on

1543
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 3: this ail, on this fucking spaceship. And of course he dies.

1544
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 3: He's eaten up by that. That's because again we see

1545
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: the alien.

1546
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: It's huge.

1547
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,879
Speaker 3: It's like ten times it's three times the size of him.

1548
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: He's gone.

1549
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 3: And the other thing I love about the xenomorph is

1550
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: it disappears people. So they're like, yeah, we know he's dead.

1551
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 3: He can't help but be dead. He cannot find even

1552
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: his bones, like they just aw the whole thing in.

1553
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: So they go back to the computer and they're like, hey, mother,

1554
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 3: what's up? What's up with this fucking alien thing? And

1555
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 3: she's like, uh, my direct is is that you should

1556
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: save the alien at all costs.

1557
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: The crew is expendable.

1558
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 3: And they're like I'm sorry, what and she's like, like

1559
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: one of our chances and she's like.

1560
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: Does not compute, motherfucker, you are expendable.

1561
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how other times, like how many other

1562
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: times I can say it, So I'm not going to

1563
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 3: go through the full rest of the film, but I

1564
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: will say there are two things that always crack me

1565
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: up about this movie. One is when Dallas, the captain,

1566
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: encounters the alien, which is a terrifying moment because he's

1567
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 3: kind of crawling around in a small space and everyone's

1568
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: watching this heat dot and they're like, the alien is

1569
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 3: right there, like it's coming towards you.

1570
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: It's right there.

1571
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 3: And when he finally sees it, it reaches out to him

1572
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: like it's doing jazz hands, which always cracks me up.

1573
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: Ha ha.

1574
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 3: He's like, come on, baby, hello, my baby, Hello, baby baby.

1575
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: And then my my other favorite part is Ash so.

1576
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 3: Ash is the science engineer played by Ian Holme, and

1577
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: at one point Ash starts to sweat milk like he

1578
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: just looks like he's sweating milk because he's getting into

1579
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 3: it with Ripley, and he attacks the shit out of Ripley,

1580
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 3: like throws her around with one hand. And Ian Holme's

1581
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: a tiny little dude, and he just attacks Ripley and

1582
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 3: just throws her around, and we're trying to figure out,

1583
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 3: like what the fuck is going on, and then we

1584
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: have Parker comes. Parker and oh god, Lambert come around

1585
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: the corner and they see basically Ash roll. He rolls

1586
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 3: up a magazine and tries to jam it down Ripley's throat,

1587
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: which is so phallic and awful. And again I could

1588
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: write a million papers about this this movie. But he's

1589
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: fully bugging out, like his eyes are fluttering. He's violent.

1590
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 2: So they and everyone's like, why why is Ash so strong?

1591
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: Like we didn't know Ash was so strong.

1592
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: Parker hits him in the back of the head with

1593
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 3: like a fire fingersher.

1594
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: Basically, and it knocks his head off his body.

1595
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: So now everyone's like, oh shit, Ash is a goddamn robot.

1596
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: He's park Android, which.

1597
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 3: Is again the surprises do not stop coming in this film.

1598
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: But then they take his head, don't worry, they take

1599
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: his head and they plug it in and rewire his

1600
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: head to get some answers, and so you're looking inside

1601
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: like the cavity of his neck and you're like, oh,

1602
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 3: he's made of like spaghetti and milk and some bubble

1603
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: te balls. And they plug in his head and they're like,

1604
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 3: what's going on. He's like, you're all gonna fucking die,

1605
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 3: ha ha, And then he just gets They use the

1606
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 3: flamethrower and light him up. But that scene was so

1607
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 3: fucking like his head on that table is so iconic

1608
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: to me about again, what could happen in storytelling, how

1609
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: surprises work, how plot twists work, how things.

1610
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: Work, and I love it.

1611
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 3: There's just so many things that stand out to me

1612
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 3: and will always stand out to me. Is what makes

1613
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: this What makes this movie a supreme film and just

1614
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: and sci fi but across the genres. And Ripley after

1615
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: seeing this is like, Yo, we're blowing this ship the

1616
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 3: fuck up. There's only three of us left. Let's get

1617
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: the fuck out of here. Let me go get this cat.

1618
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna end the description there of the movie

1619
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 3: because I think if you haven't seen it, you have to.

1620
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: If you have, you know what's coming.

1621
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we all know Ripley makes it because there's

1622
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: like four more alien movies, but you have to watch.

1623
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: If you've never seen this movie, do yourself the favor

1624
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 3: of watching it. Don't take for granted that, oh, we've

1625
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 3: got Alien Resurrection and all these new alien you know,

1626
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 3: Prometheus and all these new things coming out. See the

1627
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 3: first one to understand what this world is and what's

1628
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: what was especially exciting to me about this world. Even

1629
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 3: though there is a scene later with Ripley kind of

1630
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 3: getting undressed and trying to crawl into the pod and

1631
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: like her underwear doesn't fit in the weirdest way possible.

1632
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: It's like it's too low, it's rolled down, and her

1633
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: ass crack is out.

1634
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Listen. I know a ton of people who are like

1635
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: sexually activated by that.

1636
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I know.

1637
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: A ton of people who have specifically been like, yo,

1638
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: the ill fitting underwear was my sexual awakening.

1639
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Ah. They knew what they were doing. I'll just say

1640
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: that they did.

1641
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: They knew what they were doing across the sexuality spectrum.

1642
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: People were launched.

1643
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 3: Yes, but there's this scene and you're like, okay, so

1644
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 3: you know that she again, like she does survive to

1645
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: fight the alien another day. But watching her get to

1646
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: a point where she could possibly do that is fascinating

1647
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 3: and again unexpected. There are twists, but I just really

1648
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 3: as a kid resonated. Something about this movie that really

1649
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 3: resonated with me was this notion of survival, this notion

1650
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: of fighting. Seeing like women kicking ass as a weight

1651
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: is it means purely fight for their own survival, not

1652
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 3: to benefit men or anything like. It was revolutionary to

1653
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 3: me to see Ripley as a character because we again

1654
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 3: have seen over the development of the franchise how they

1655
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 3: sexualized her much like more and more and more. And

1656
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 3: if this movie were to be made today, I think

1657
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 3: it would have all the bells and whistles of the

1658
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: extreme jumping and extreme punching and extreme fighting. What makes

1659
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 3: this movie brilliant is how quietly you are watching people

1660
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: fight for their life. Yeah, and it really changed something

1661
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 3: in me to be able to see not just a

1662
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 3: different world, a different landscape in space, in spaceships, but

1663
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: to see Sigourney Weaver as Ripley kicking absolute s in

1664
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 3: a way that felt at the same time very feminine.

1665
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: She's crying, she's like yelling. She is not.

1666
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: Timid about expressing herself while she's fighting for her fucking

1667
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: life and revolutionary to.

1668
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Me, unbelievable, And you're so right about there was a

1669
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: restraint I think to seventies cinema when it came to

1670
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: like action science fiction things like that, even like early

1671
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: eighties stuff like that just doesn't exist.

1672
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: Now.

1673
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: I think that we're too We need to keep attention.

1674
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing is that, like people are so

1675
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: distracted that now everybody's just trying to keep your attention

1676
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: at all times. The fast edits, the you know, the graphics,

1677
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: the special effects, that kind of stuff when you walk back,

1678
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Like for example, if you have like no reference for

1679
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: something like this, like if you've never seen it and

1680
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: you've not really watched a lot of you know, classic

1681
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: films or older cinema, and you watch something like this,

1682
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: it's I would be curious to see what you think,

1683
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: because you know, I think a lot of people who

1684
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: dip in older films are like, man, they're so like

1685
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: boring and not like kind of mute it. And I'm

1686
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: just like, that's what I love about it, though, I mean,

1687
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: don't you love that?

1688
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean that I don't know what's going to happen

1689
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: because of these overblown movies.

1690
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: I know what's going to happen.

1691
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, even like thrillers and suspenseful movies, you just see

1692
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: shit coming from a mile away. Now where I feel

1693
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: like a movie like Alien is really like a really

1694
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: a great example of tension building.

1695
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh, just such an economy of language and.

1696
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 3: The use of force or strength, and it's it's a

1697
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 3: beautiful fucking movie. It's a weird movie. It's a hilarious movie,

1698
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 3: and it's scary as shit. It's one of the first

1699
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 3: scary movies that I saw that I really felt like, oh,

1700
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 3: but I understand the terror.

1701
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1702
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1703
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 3: And when I was really little and watching movies with

1704
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 3: my grandmother, I'm like, this is just scary.

1705
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't like it. But it really became.

1706
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, this is this is how terror can

1707
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 3: work in a way that feels interesting. And I also,

1708
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 3: again would be remiss if I didn't mention that the

1709
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: actor who plays the alien, who's actually in the alien

1710
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 3: costume is Bolage Beideho, who was huge, like just a

1711
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:24,480
Speaker 3: fucking giant person. But go look information about Bolagie Bideho,

1712
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 3: who did a fucking fantastic job in this film, and

1713
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 3: never you never see their face or you know his face,

1714
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 3: so you don't get to know much about who he

1715
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 3: is beyond behind the scenes, but really was part of

1716
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 3: the iconic franchise and the main part of the p

1717
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 3: iconic franchise, which we I didn't learn for years who

1718
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: that there was an actor. I thought it was all

1719
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 3: puppets and strings, but no, there's a human being in there.

1720
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just have to say, the course, over the

1721
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: course of four years, two hundred and something episodes, you

1722
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: the narrative that you presented very early on of being

1723
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: a young person who was forced into horror, science fiction,

1724
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: and other forms of depravity through your grandmother is one

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01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: of the funniest, best most endaring things ever. Like I

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01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: mean as a person that's often like thought about and

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01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, movie culture, but also like how

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: people get into movies, how they were formed as children

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01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: to like the things that they like. Now, Like, that's

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01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: one of the best stories is to just have this

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01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: like little mean, depraved horror movie loving grandma with her

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01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: saw DVDs next to her husband's ashes, just fucking your

1733
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: mind up, just like fucking you up forever.

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01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: And doesn't even think of it. Just like if I'm

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01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 2: gonna watch it.

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01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 3: These kids I'm watching are also gonna watch it, Like

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01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 3: was not even we weren't even considered in terms of

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01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 3: any of this being bad.

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01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 2: For our development.

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01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 3: She thought it was cool, so she's like, well, they'll

1741
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 3: clearly think it's cool because I love it, so.

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01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 2: They'll love it.

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01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 3: It is also joyful to me to note and have

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 3: heard from so many people who got into movies in

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01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 3: the same exact way. Whe They're like, yeah, my fucking

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01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 3: grandmother is the one that made me watch all these

1747
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: slasher films. And I again, part of my possible doctoral

1748
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 3: thesis in the future is going to be to examine

1749
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 3: and really research and study why so many older women,

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01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 3: grandmother specifically, fucking love horror movies. Because I think there

1751
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 3: is a generational thing happening where they were so locked

1752
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 3: in and unable to express themselves in their actual day

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01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 3: to day lives that they grew to enjoy any expression

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01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 3: of direct violence against oppression.

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01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think there's something to it.

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01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: We were talking about this when we were both in

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01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Atlanta for the live show. I mean, why the hell

1758
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: do you think you and I love heavy metal and

1759
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: rap music. I feel like it's the same thing. There's

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01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: something that connects all of this, and it has to

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01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: do with women's oppression in some basic way.

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01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 3: We have got to crack the code, even if it

1763
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 3: means cracking the DNA sequence and going and becoming scientists.

1764
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: Like there is something so intense about this that I

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01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 3: believe is a genetic issue.

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01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Listen, as we're figured this out, I'll take a face

1767
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: hugger for the team if we if we can solve

1768
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: if we can solve the riddle of this and I

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01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: have to have a face hugger in the process, I'll

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01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: take one. I'll be that person because I want to know.

1771
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta figure this out for humanity.

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01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get a synthetic face hugger or something.

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01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this too, just to close up

1774
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: my thoughts about you picking this amazing film this week.

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01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you had that experience with being

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01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: shown this movie at a young age, having it fucking

1777
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: rock your brain, and that you did something positive with

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01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: it and he did not turn into a Republican Christian

1779
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: freakazoid like it had the intended effect, which is that

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01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,520
Speaker 1: it turned you into a professional maniac that was subsequently

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01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: able to put great art and entertainment into this world.

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01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying?

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01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Like you, Yeah, it didn't shut me down to the

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01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 3: point where I'm like, nobody can ever see anything like this?

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01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: Why would we let anybody watch this?

1786
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 3: I was like, actually, this is kind of cool, and

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01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: I have some ideas of my own, and it's not like.

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01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 1: This stupid narrative that like all these like fucking like

1789
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: satanic panicky types are always saying like, oh, the things

1790
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: are ruining the children's brains and they're all going to

1791
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: become like this.

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01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: No.

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01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: No, was like, no, sometimes they become professional, successful weirdos,

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01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: And that's what we need in the world. We don't

1795
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: need any more fucking jumpers. Basically, we don't need even

1796
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: more fascists. We don't even be conservatives. We need awesome freaks.

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01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so happy to be an awesome freak. You're

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01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 3: an awesome freak too.

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01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: Thank you. I know that's what we get along. I

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01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: think that's why we get along so well.

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01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: I so too.

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01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 3: You're like this movie in the desert with all these

1803
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 3: women just running like ragged over men. That is what

1804
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: is going to activate me in my life.

1805
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: Seeing women kill men in the sand with their bare

1806
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: hands made me the person that I am today.

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01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 2: Oh God, I love this so much. I've loved every

1808
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: minute of this. Every minute of this.

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01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: I have too, And I'm sad that this episode is

1810
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: finally coming to an end because I think, you know,

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01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna miss sitting with you, like doing this

1812
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: shit every week. I mean, honestly, like, it was a

1813
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: joy to talk about movies. It was a joy to

1814
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 1: hear you talk about movies. I feel like we created

1815
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: this amazing little world where we got to share our

1816
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: thoughts and our feelings in our opinion, and a lot

1817
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: of times it went from like talking about extremely hard, difficult,

1818
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes traumatic, sometimes emotional things to talking about farts

1819
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: and you know, like bad dates and you know, like

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01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: thigh chafing. Like it was the range of like topics

1821
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: was so vast, and it was like you were there

1822
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 1: for every bit of it. There was never a time

1823
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: where I felt like I'm going in a direction and

1824
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: you weren't on the ride.

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01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, if you put it down, I'll pick it up, Yeah,

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01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: I'll pick it up.

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01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: That's the best thing that you can hope for in

1828
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: any friend and anybody that you creatively collaborate with. Is

1829
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: somebody that is going to like take you at your

1830
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 1: high low, is never going to make you feel weird.

1831
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: And that's this podcast for me, in a nutshell, it's

1832
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 1: just the feeling of being seen and understood by you,

1833
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 1: by Casey, by everybody we work with, by everybody who's listening,

1834
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: has made it every second worth it for me.

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01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: So thank you.

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01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 3: I could not agree more, and thank you so much again.

1837
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: Don't forget, Do not unsubscribe to your feed and your

1838
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,520
Speaker 3: whatever you're using to listen to this podcast. Keep subscribing

1839
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 3: to the feed, keep subscribing to our social media because

1840
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 3: as announcements come out, that is where they will live.

1841
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for a film podcast for me

1842
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: and Casey, possibly in January, maybe sometime in twenty twenty five,

1843
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, you will hear about it

1844
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: first of you stay on this feed, so just stay it.

1845
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: And also I gotta say, like, I know that our

1846
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: social media is still gonna be up, Like I don't

1847
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: think we're striking it down at least not in the

1848
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 1: short term, so you know our social media will be there.

1849
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: But also we'll be checking the emails. I mean, I

1850
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: know that you and I will both check it for

1851
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: a little bit and I might just still check it

1852
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: once in a while.

1853
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: Who the fuck goes so keeping that too, So even

1854
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: if we don't check it for a couple of years,

1855
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 2: it'll be there.

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01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw what you did pot at jumid dot com.

1857
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: You can just like lob over late night voicemails. It

1858
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,560
Speaker 1: was just like something you want to do. I'm not

1859
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: saying they're going to be listening to them. We're going

1860
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: to listen to them with any kind of like regularity

1861
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: over time. But if that's just something you want to do,

1862
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: that email address will still be there, and you.

1863
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 3: Know, keep it movie related pod focused, but send us,

1864
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 3: send us some stuff, especially in the in the in

1865
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 3: the next coming weeks, we will definitely be reading too

1866
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: and hopefully having some time to respond to people directly.

1867
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 2: And you can always.

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01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 3: Find out more about us on our link tree, which

1869
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 3: is on our social media uh and you can find

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01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: us on our socials at I saw pod on Instagram,

1871
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Speaker 3: Blue Sky and Twitter.

1872
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, to keep in touch with.

1873
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: Us, keep in touch and Danielle. The last time I

1874
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: want to say this as always, as ever as it

1875
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: shall be a fucking pleasure doing and have done this

1876
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: podcast with you.

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01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 3: Honestly, it has been a distinct honor and my fucking pleasure.

1878
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1879
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Speaker 1: All right, so much siding off.

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01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 2: We love you.

1881
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 1: Thanks for being a listener. We appreciate it. Bye hed

1882
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: did bye see.

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01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel, artwork by

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Speaker 3: Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia heart Start, Karen

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Speaker 3: kile Gareff, and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on

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