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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. I'm John Schmelt. My partner's

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Speaker 1: Jeff Eagels back in the house. The number for you

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Speaker 1: is two oh one nine three nine four or five

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Speaker 1: one three. We got two great guests today. Phil Savage

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Speaker 1: does Radio Alabama, he's their analyst and also runs the

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Speaker 1: Reese Senior Bowl, so obviously knows a ton about this

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Speaker 1: draft class. And then we have Dan Orlovski, former NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: coming your way at around twelve thirties. So between those

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Speaker 1: two guests, we will try to take a couple of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. Uh talk a little draft to whatever else?

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Speaker 1: Who gonna talk about with the New York Giants. But

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Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Phil, go ahead, what's up? Jeff? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I might? And then later in the show at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show, Charlie's lobsters are here and Jeff

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Speaker 1: will unveil them at the end of the show. Thank

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Speaker 1: you and I want to tune in, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to leave after the after the interviews

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Speaker 1: and stuff. Jeff is very excited about his lobster. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many are in there, but uh, at

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Speaker 1: least one. All right, let's go to Phil Savage. He

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Speaker 1: does the radio analyst for Alabama football, also runs the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Phil, I was down in Mobile. You did

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Speaker 1: an excellent job putting the event on this year. You

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Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. We appreciate the time today. Hey

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Speaker 1: Phil Well, yeah, Hey guy may Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We have a very dedicated staff, and you know, most

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Speaker 1: people think of the Reef Senior Ball is a one

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Speaker 1: week out of the year event, but we have stuff

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Speaker 1: going on down here, you know, locally and on our

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Speaker 1: website year round, so you guys get a chance to

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Speaker 1: see sort of the culmination of a year's work and work.

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Speaker 1: But it did go quite well this year, obviously with

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Speaker 1: players like Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield, and then maybe

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Speaker 1: the story of this draft, Shikim Griffin being part of

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Speaker 1: our game this year. All right, let's start with Alabama.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to bang through. There's so many guys

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Speaker 1: from from the Crimson's Home, Pel, I mean, I feel

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Speaker 1: don't try to do one question each guy and then

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Speaker 1: get to your overall view of the draft. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Doron Payne. First, um two part question, do you

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Speaker 1: see him in the NFL? Is a one or three technique?

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Speaker 1: And how do you see his alcohol inconsistency where he

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Speaker 1: looked like a much more active and better player in

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Speaker 1: the final two games of the year compared to what

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Speaker 1: he did earlier in the season. Yeah, Dern Payne is

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Speaker 1: a big man athlete. I mean, this is a very athletic,

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Speaker 1: point of attack. Then he can work down the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And although he doesn't have much sack production,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bama scheme for the interior defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: so I think that that's an area where he will

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Speaker 1: improve the most. So is he a one technique A

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks there are safeties to come out of Alabama in

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Speaker 1: You see him playing that strong safety position, and a

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Speaker 1: Alabama Radio runs the Reese's Senior Bowl Calvin Ridley I

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Speaker 1: kind of caught back up with this tape I had

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Speaker 1: He's so fundamentally sound, But the knicks on him where

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Speaker 1: But when I see the tape, I see things that

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Speaker 1: should translate to the NFL level. And his numbers would

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Speaker 1: a more passing oriented quarterback playing with him. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: a really good football player. You know. One of the

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Speaker 1: this year. Tell me a little bit about Rashad Evans

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Speaker 1: that he did in Bama played Clemson in the National

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Speaker 1: he was the mirror defender on Deshaun Watson. That was

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Speaker 1: the safety Ronnie Harrison, Um, do you see a Moore

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Speaker 1: of overshadowed Ronnie Harrison to a degree. But I'm telling

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Speaker 1: And of course we haven't even talked about the potential

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Speaker 1: of trading guys. Oh, we not sure that they're going

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Speaker 1: to do that. We don't pick a player. If you

431
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Speaker 1: had to choose between May Bayfield or Rosen, what direction

432
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Speaker 1: would you go? But still, I gotta be honest, I

433
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Speaker 1: go back and forth every day on which guy like better. Well,

434
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Speaker 1: and see that's part, that's part the answer to to

435
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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna reframe this. See, if you ask me

436
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Speaker 1: this a week ago, I'd have them in a certain order.

437
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Speaker 1: To ask me, they have them a different order. And

438
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Speaker 1: so to me, when there's that kind of question, Mark, man,

439
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Speaker 1: do you just step and I can say, are we

440
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Speaker 1: overvaluing all these quarterbacks? And let's take a non quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to do, but the Giants are

442
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Speaker 1: in position to do it because of Eli's present. And look,

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Speaker 1: if Eli can play another two or three years, maybe

444
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Speaker 1: they take a swing at one of these second or

445
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Speaker 1: third round quarterbacks and try to develop someone behind the

446
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Speaker 1: scenes relative to what they think of David's Webb. And see,

447
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Speaker 1: that's an unknown that none of us have an indication

448
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Speaker 1: on what does Pat Shermer think about Davis Webb and

449
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Speaker 1: his future upside? Because if they feel pretty it about David,

450
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Speaker 1: then maybe they should just go non quarterback there at

451
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Speaker 1: the top of the draft and carry on. So, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fascinating Thursday night at the Draft

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Speaker 1: at first round. I don't think any of us really

454
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Speaker 1: have any idea, what's going to happen, particularly in that top.

455
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And then maybe they handcuffed David's up with

456
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Speaker 1: a Mike White or Kylo Letta. Two guys that we

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Speaker 1: did see at the Senior Bowl. Phil, we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, tremendous information. I know you're busy today

459
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Speaker 1: and we'll touch basically down the road. All right, okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy it, and uh, good luck in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Phil. We can't wait less than

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Speaker 1: two weeks away, Phil Savage. So Phil Savage runs the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and of course he's the radio analyst. Question,

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Speaker 1: so do you do you think it's well, obviously under

465
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Speaker 1: the answer this, but it's yeah, I'm trying to compare

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Speaker 1: the two. This NFL draft coming up with all the

467
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Speaker 1: question marks about the quarterbacks and who the Giants are

468
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Speaker 1: gonna take and all the trades, and this is this

469
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Speaker 1: is almost like filling out a bracket for the n

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Speaker 1: C Double A. I mean, it's like it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: get this thing. So much fun, so much fun, but

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Speaker 1: it is a lot of fun. And like you and

473
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Speaker 1: at least you're honest about the fact that John does

474
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Speaker 1: changes his opinions about every week about which quarterbacks should

475
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Speaker 1: be going. But I will tell you this, well, remember

476
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Speaker 1: I had been on Donald in one the whole time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm still there. It's the Mayfield Rosen thing that

478
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Speaker 1: gets me. Well, here's the thing. I I'm still in

479
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Speaker 1: agreement with a lot of d Field had said. I

480
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Speaker 1: still think and and and he kind of makes a

481
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Speaker 1: good point. If you're not really you're not really true

482
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Speaker 1: set on any of these quarterbacks and just go with

483
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Speaker 1: the opposite way and say, you know what, we don't

484
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Speaker 1: like we just you know, that's a safe bet. How

485
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: other it always can come back and bite you. And

486
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Speaker 1: and you know later on he don't swing the bat.

487
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Speaker 1: I agree. It's just very difficult. But um, we'll see

488
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Speaker 1: what happens. And it is. It is kind of intriguing

489
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Speaker 1: to see it's getting close, guys. Finally, Yeah, nothing real close. Nothing.

490
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Speaker 1: No one's tipping their hat though, nope, nothing. Nobody is

491
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Speaker 1: just saying nothing's coming out. You know, maybe that happens

492
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Speaker 1: in the last week of the before we start getting

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Speaker 1: a little you know, some guys start some smoke coming

494
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Speaker 1: out of the chimney here, who knows. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got Dan or Lovsky in about five minut It will

496
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Speaker 1: take a couple of calls between now and then and

497
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Speaker 1: one piece of breaking news. I'm not even sure if

498
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Speaker 1: Dan Salmon so they said, who's running the show today?

499
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Speaker 1: But my Adam Schefter and Todd Archer, at least according

500
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Speaker 1: to the information, Jeff Feagles just gave me report that

501
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to cut des Bryants, which is surprising,

502
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Speaker 1: not that they're letting him go, but that they would

503
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Speaker 1: let him go now because they can't use the money

504
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: they're saving on the cap on anybody. But it's so

505
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Speaker 1: late in the process, it just seems like a weird

506
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Speaker 1: timing thing to me. But whatever, two five, one three?

507
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Speaker 1: Would this be a June? Was this to being one

508
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Speaker 1: of the June the June one? Guys? I don't know.

509
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Speaker 1: I think they might just take the whole hit this

510
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Speaker 1: year so they don't have to extend it. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. Let's go to um Let's see. I don't

512
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Speaker 1: see he calls up here? There? Me are? I wasn't

513
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Speaker 1: scrolled all way up Marco and Connecticut. He's up first time? Marco? Hey, guys,

514
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Speaker 1: how are you? What's up? Marco? I'm doing great. I'm

515
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Speaker 1: looking forward to our last I'm a Connecticut guy and

516
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Speaker 1: he's uh followed his career and I've heard him a

517
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Speaker 1: couple of times. He's doing a great job with Oh

518
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Speaker 1: yeah draft coverage. Absolutely. Um Hey, real quick, guys, I

519
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Speaker 1: know it's repressed with time here. So I'm just trying

520
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Speaker 1: to think through this number two pick, and I want

521
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Speaker 1: to see what you guys think about the way I'm going.

522
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well it's not so much who I just

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Speaker 1: I'm going based on what Gettleman and Shermer have said

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Speaker 1: when they've talked, and they hadn't tipped their hands one

525
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Speaker 1: way or another, but they've been firm on a couple

526
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Speaker 1: of things. And one and this is what gets in

527
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Speaker 1: the way of my thinking. They Gettleman has said hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame pick, and he has said that this guy

529
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Speaker 1: has to be a number two pick in any draft, right, Okay,

530
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Speaker 1: So then we get to and I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: being tongue in cheap, by the way, when he says

532
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame pick, I think he means that. Okay.

533
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Speaker 1: So then and Shermer also has talked about looked back

534
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Speaker 1: at the guys the Giants have drafted when they've picked

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Speaker 1: number two LT He's also brought up number three kral Banks. Um.

536
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Speaker 1: I can't get that off my mind. So I think,

537
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Speaker 1: if you're looking at just positional value, take the quarterback

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Speaker 1: out for a second. Just take it out unless because

539
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how they feel about Webb and Donald,

540
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: just like Phil Savage said. But if they don't want

541
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Speaker 1: a quarterback and they're picking number two, I think Chubb

542
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: has got to be the guy. Based on what you're

543
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: getting from a pass. You're getting a pass rusher there.

544
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Speaker 1: But everything you hear about Barkley is he's got the

545
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame pedigree and so and so does Clinton Nelson.

546
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Speaker 1: But I don't factor Nelson into it because he's a guard.

547
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Speaker 1: So my thing with Chubb is is shove as good

548
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Speaker 1: of the end as Barkley is as a running back.

549
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: I would say probably not, but it's close so so

550
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Speaker 1: then so then I'm thrown back into the running back agreement.

551
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Speaker 1: And and John I'll say this, If Chubb is drafted

552
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Speaker 1: at two, is it fair to see that he's got

553
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Speaker 1: to a Lawrence Taylor to validate the pick? No, No,

554
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's the best defensive player in NFL. History.

555
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know, I know it's not fair,

556
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: but Barkley is also what they're They talked about Barkley

557
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: like he's a generational player. I understand. But to me

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Speaker 1: and and Marcot, we gotta run. Thanks for the call.

559
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. If he's Joey Bosa, you're fine. I mean,

560
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: if you get a Joey Bosa caliber player you sign

561
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: up for that can't be that kind of guy. Absolutely,

562
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Speaker 1: I think he try to. And if you guys want

563
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: to learn more about Trubb, we had the nc stake

564
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: on yesterday talk about it, and we had Dame Bruegler

565
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: two days ago talk a lot about Rump. So go

566
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Speaker 1: back in the archives check it out. I think he's

567
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Speaker 1: a little bit better than some people give him credit for.

568
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Speaker 1: Then I want to have to squeeze in this other call,

569
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Speaker 1: are real quick, Dan Line to Christian in New York,

570
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Speaker 1: look at rememberal quick for me. Thank you very much,

571
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Speaker 1: Hey Christian, Hey guys, I have to say I do

572
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Speaker 1: feel a little better about Trubb. Um ever since that

573
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: interview you guys had on on the show. Because the

574
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: high motor is just so important. Um, I have to say, like,

575
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: like when I was talking about, you know, you gotta

576
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Speaker 1: be quicker. Yeah, I just feel like he's a little

577
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Speaker 1: closer to Derek Bartnett than he is to Solomon Thomas.

578
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Speaker 1: So that's why I was thinking about him going maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. That's interest in the draft and

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Speaker 1: some thought. But um, I would be shocked if he's

581
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Speaker 1: not off the board in the top six or second.

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Speaker 1: We say later, I don't think you ever talking about like,

583
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Speaker 1: on one hand, later you can probably talk about yeah

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Speaker 1: right around ten like no, no, no, he's final. I

585
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna make it to seven. I guess. So, I mean,

586
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I guess, just quarterbacks included. If some some teams want

587
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: to pair the top shelf with the premium position with

588
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: guys like Denzel Ward, I promise you he will be

589
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Speaker 1: one of the top three players that's a premium position

590
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Speaker 1: from from this type of players, He'll be one of

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Speaker 1: the top three non quarterbacks picked. I guess. So yeah,

592
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Speaker 1: I just I mean, I guess it's all just how

593
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Speaker 1: you how you value uh certain ones, because I think

594
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Speaker 1: the corners would be just as good. So really it's

595
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Speaker 1: whichever of guys you like at that point. All right,

596
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Christian, appreciate the call. Buddy, you know, and

597
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and Marco brought up a good point, does he have

598
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Speaker 1: does he have to be Lawrence Taylor talking about No,

599
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Nobody, nobody has been has become Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I think the point is is that do you need

601
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Speaker 1: that type of player at the number two pick from

602
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Speaker 1: the defensive it, Yes, you do. And I think that

603
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: that guy can put on I mean I saw of

604
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: interviews and and has watched some team up. The guy's

605
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: his motor is ridiculous and he's had a great technique

606
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: and I think and he seems to me from the

607
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: interviews and stuff like a really good dude. I heard.

608
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Speaker 1: I think that you're getting everything you want out of

609
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Speaker 1: that pick, from from character to work ethic to to

610
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Speaker 1: the possibilities of being a Hall of Fame football player

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Speaker 1: and being your number two pick. There it is, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's right there. And by the way, he scored

613
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Speaker 1: in the top five percent in the in the athletic

614
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: testing for defensive ends over the last thirty years. Defensive

615
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: and I think they do. Jeff think they too. All right,

616
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Speaker 1: let's go to our next guest. He's Dan Orlovski, former

617
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback native of Connecticut. Um, I'm sure you remember

618
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Speaker 1: his time with the Lines and his other teams in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And Dan's doing a great job

620
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Speaker 1: of breaking down on Twitter some of these college quarterbacks

621
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Speaker 1: coming out in the NFL draft, and we welcome into

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Speaker 1: the show. Dan. You got John scha Melkin, Jeff figgles In,

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Speaker 1: John Giants dot com. How are you today? I'm doing well,

624
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Speaker 1: nothing much, happy for you to jump on. I really

625
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Speaker 1: enjoyed your podcast with Peter King, enjoyed some of your

626
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Speaker 1: tweets breaking down some of the tape. So let's get

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Speaker 1: right to a one by one year with the quarterback

628
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. He's the number one guy on my board. Um,

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Speaker 1: do you value him that same way of the current

630
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Speaker 1: quarterback class? And why do you have him there? If

631
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Speaker 1: you do, and where do you think he needs to

632
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Speaker 1: make the most improvement. Oh, there's no doubt about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, I look at it like this.

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Speaker 1: If you're a can early in the draft, you're one

635
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: pcent trying to find people who changed the game for you.

636
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Speaker 1: And so if you're looking at the quarterback position when

637
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: it comes to that, those guys have to have traits

638
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: that you can't coach that you just there's not drills

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Speaker 1: for them to to get better at him. So there's

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Speaker 1: three things with Sam Donald that stick out to me

641
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: when it comes at. One. He's got, and I've coined it,

642
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: this kind of magical sloppiness. Everything he does. It's just

643
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: a little bit sloppy it is, you know, and it's

644
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: very Romo Roethlisberg rest. Sometimes that's slopping. It gets him

645
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: in trouble, but man, it creates a magic that you

646
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: just can't you just can't replicate, you know, and a guy,

647
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: you can't drill that into a guy. And the second

648
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: thing is, and this is a really important trait. He's

649
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: got this unique ability to judge the angles and speeds

650
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: of how his guys are gonna run their route, and

651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: that matters in the NFL. The tape shows this for

652
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: him in college, and that matters in the NFL because

653
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL things happen faster and they happen smaller,

654
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: and anticipation is so important. That's not a you can't

655
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: just that's something you're born with and you develop. You

656
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: can't drill that into a guy, and he's so that

657
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: trade is huge. And then the last thing, he's accurate

658
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: with bad feet and from a guy who had to

659
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: play on some bad teams, And I know what NFL

660
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: pockets are like. With the with the perfect pocket, I

661
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: was pretty accurate. They're just non existent in the NFL

662
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: unless you're deck and you go to the brick wall,

663
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: They're just non existent. So to have to trade where

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Speaker 1: you could be accurate with bad feet, one, I don't.

665
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Speaker 1: I don't have a drill because I'm not gonna coach

666
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: bad habits in you. So I'm not gonna do that too.

667
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: I know with better fit you'll be even more accurate.

668
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: So like those traits that he has that you can't

669
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Speaker 1: coach into a guy, are are such differentiators for me?

670
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: And then the thing, you know his flaws. All these

671
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: guys have flawings rewards and you help them. You know

672
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the turnovers, well, matt Ryan had nineteen coming out of school,

673
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Romo had sixteen coming out of school. Russell Wilson is

674
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: junior head fourteen, Breeze had twelve. So you've got to

675
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: figure out how they're happening. You know, the ball security.

676
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: I was missing Matthew Stafford in two thousand ten when

677
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: he had ten fumbles in two thousand or two fumbles

678
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: and two two because he made more of an emphasis,

679
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: he protected it more two hands of the ball. So

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00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: you can fix, in my opinion, you can fix and

681
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: help those flaws of his. And you know, Dan, I

682
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: think you're in a very unique position as someone that

683
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: played the position in the pros and understands what it's

684
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: like to go from college to NFL and try to

685
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: translate those skills. And I was having a conversation a

686
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago with Kevin Gilbride, former Giants offensive coordinator,

687
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: and he talked to me and he goes John back.

688
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: When I used to evaluate quarterbacks fifteen twenty years ago,

689
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I used to look at the arm strength. You know, Kenny,

690
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: can he spin it? Can he threw it through wind?

691
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: But he goes. The more I did this, the more

692
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: I understand what makes a great quarterback in the NFL

693
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Speaker 1: is your ability to slow everything down, anticipate and see

694
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Speaker 1: what's happening. Because so many times, like you mentioned the NFL,

695
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: you don't have a clean pocket. You're looking at your

696
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: feet and your ability to process things, to me is

697
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: really maybe the most valuable then you can see in

698
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, because I'm not sure you can coach that

699
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: up in guys, you either can slow it down and

700
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: you see everything, or you can't. What do you think

701
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: are the most important traits when you look at these

702
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: college guys, if they can translate what they do in

703
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: college to the pros. Yeah, I mean, I'll play off

704
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: what you said. You know, if you look at the

705
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks in the NFL over the last three

706
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: or four years, it's gonna look like an E. K. G. Graham.

707
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: There's no more. No longer is there a prototype. There's

708
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: just not that. They're come in all shapes and sizes now.

709
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: And so when you're looking at it and you're going, well,

710
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: what do we need? Well, everyone coins or throws around

711
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: the term processes information. Very few people know what it means.

712
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: So processing information at the quarterback position is this. You

713
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: get your play. Now your process starts. Okay, this is

714
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: my play. And it sounds silly, but a lot of

715
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks struggle with even being able to visualize their play.

716
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: So I've got my offensive play. It comes into my

717
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: homed here's my offensive play. This is the situation, and

718
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: two things have to come into mind. What's the problem

719
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: of your play? Because every play there's a problem whether

720
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: it's a run left, if I've got too many people

721
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: numbers wise, defensively, I've got to have an answer, and

722
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: then there's an opportunity for your play. Okay, here, you know,

723
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I've got Odell Beckham on a post. You know, is

724
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: there an opportunity for me to throw that post and

725
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: then I'll flip it. Then you have the defense, and

726
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: the defense is going to present a problem to you. Okay,

727
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: this is my protection. The defense is showing the blitz.

728
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't have enough people to block. What's my answer?

729
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: And then there's an opportunity from the defense. Defense. Okay,

730
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I've got pressed man, I could take a go ball shot.

731
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You need to do all that

732
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: in four seconds. Seventy out of seventy. You can't be

733
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Speaker 1: thirty five out of seventy. You can't be forty five

734
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: on a seventy. Then you're just okay, You've got to

735
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: be one out of a hundred, and your brain has

736
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: to go. Every single play is different every place, and

737
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: so you have to have that process, and a lot

738
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: of guys struggle with it. So if you can do

739
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: it at the college level, you're so much more advanced.

740
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: When you get to the NFL and you know a

741
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: lot of people. It's it's why everybody pretty much says

742
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: that the quarterback position is one of the hardest positions

743
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: to play in sports. And you obviously did it well

744
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: and you understand the position. I think that that one

745
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: one thing that's hard to understand to really or evaluate

746
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: out of these guys when we're talking about that processing information.

747
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: You can put somebody on a white board and you

748
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: can do all those things, but until the until the

749
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: things come fly, the darts are flying out your live

750
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: and things like that, it's almost like a crapshoot. You

751
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: have to take a take a guess on some of

752
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: these What are some of the things that from a

753
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: scouting perspective or a coaching perspective, do these guys go

754
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: through with these top four guys that we're talking about

755
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: that will give them some sort of an answer that

756
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: they can process this information on the field. Dan, Yeah,

757
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I've been around guys who can do

758
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: it on paper, even in a walker you can get it.

759
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: But then when the game gets going, it's a different world.

760
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: So I think what what I find confusing sometimes is

761
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: we have to watch tape, we have to watch tape

762
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: and if kids are showing the inability to do it

763
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: at the college level, where it will be it's easiest,

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: because at the NFL it will only get harder. At

765
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: the NFL level, defenses will move faster, more detailed, disguise better.

766
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Like I look at Josh Allen, and I've been outspoken

767
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: about some of the things that I see him struggle

768
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: with on tape, and he struggles with that very thing,

769
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: that plan and process. And you don't think that if

770
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: he goes number one to Cleveland, Tara Auston at Cincinnati's

771
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna go. Wait, he's struggling with basic stuff. I'm throwing

772
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at him. So you know, I think evaluators,

773
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: you need to you need to watch the tape, and

774
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: then you need to you need to understand. There's a

775
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: big difference between understanding it and executing it. And you've

776
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: got to get to the point to realize if the

777
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: kid can execute it, and to figure that out out

778
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: is you know, if if I was able to do

779
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: that right now, I'd be making fifteen million dollars years

780
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: in managers somewhere. I think it's hard, but at the

781
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, you've got to go back to tape.

782
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: You have to go back to tape, because I could

783
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: get my wife to understand the stuff on a dryer

784
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: race board and she can go talk ball. At some

785
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: point I could teach her enough execution. If they can't

786
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: execute in college, you can't ask them to execute in

787
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, it's tough then, And I think, and

788
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: we're joined by Dan Orlowski, former NFL quarterback, and I

789
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: think some of the stuff you showed from Josh Allen,

790
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: and we'll go to him as the next quarterback here

791
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: because a lot of people do believe that the Browns

792
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: would select him number one, which to me is very,

793
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: very risky because of some of the problems you've mentioned.

794
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: What are some of those processing issues you've seen from

795
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Alan when you watch his college tape in Wyoming. Yeah, so,

796
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: as like I said, you just watch out the tape

797
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: and there's a clip and I started seeing some clips

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00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: where I was just like, huh, you know, why is

799
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: why is he struggling with some of the basic stuff?

800
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: You know, why is he late to everything? Late reactionary

801
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: and you know, late to simpler throws. And it's not

802
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: only the throws, but then it goes into the whole

803
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: aspects of playing quarterback, because there's a difference between throwing

804
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: and playing quarterback. And so I'm watching Kate and I'm watching.

805
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: As I'm watching, Kap's doing a lot of stuff at

806
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. There's a clipping in Iowa where

807
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: he goes up to the line of scrimmage like we

808
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: see quarterbacks do all the time, and it looks like

809
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: he changes the protection and the the offensive line slides,

810
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: all five guys slide to the left, and the right

811
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: defensive end comes unblocked. And he stands there and has

812
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: no anticipatory reaction that he thinks that defensive end is unblocked.

813
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: It's like it surprises him. And for me, it's like

814
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: you might have sent the offensive line the wrong way.

815
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't care about that, but you have to know

816
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: what you did and know what your problem. And it

817
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: looks like he's surprised by it. And so that is

818
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: alarming to me that you you're not doing that. I mean,

819
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: it was a four man, four man pressure. It wasn't

820
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: like Iowa brought everybody. So that's alarming. And then I'm

821
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: watching the Oregon game and Oregon Wyoming is playing Oregon.

822
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Wyoming is in a five man protection, which is one

823
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: of the easiest protections for a quarterback because we just know,

824
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: all right, if one guy on the defense blitzes, I'm

825
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: in trouble, and the will linebacker for Oregon blitz is,

826
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: and everyone for Wyoming is looking hot. But Josh Allen

827
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: and it's you know, for that stuff to me looks

828
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: like again he's surprised by it. And so if that

829
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: to me, that not having that process you, it's only

830
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: going to get harder. And for coaches, Listen, there's thirty

831
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: two quarterback coaches in the NFL. If any of them

832
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: could really expedite that learning for a kid, he wouldn't

833
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: be a quarterback coach, you know. So it's just really

834
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: hard to teaching. It's like getting a kid Spanish one

835
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: on one, moving him to Mexico and say go function

836
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: every day like everyone else. It's possible. I hope nobody

837
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: does that to me ever, know it impossible? It is,

838
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's difficult. And that's why I'm

839
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: asking the questions because you I think that the one

840
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: thing that you said is you can see it on tape,

841
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: and that's the only way you're gonna be able to

842
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: be able to see people because a lot of times

843
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: with athletes, you know they're going to show you what

844
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: they do consistently. They're gonna get better through time and

845
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: getting into the NFL. But the underlying problems are that

846
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have or they're not going to change a

847
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: lot of things is what you see in some of

848
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: the tape that they watch. And it's interesting when you

849
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: talk about Josh and some of the just some of

850
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: the if you're a quarterback and I never played quarterback

851
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: other than high school, is that the last thing I

852
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: want to do is change a protection because I'm changing

853
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: the protection to help myself and you know what I'm saying,

854
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: and not to know that the other guy that's gonna

855
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: come and kill me. That would have a red flag

856
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: in my mind too, by the way, So it's a

857
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, I mean, and the big thing was,

858
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean what we would always play teams that were

859
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: heavy blitz teams or whatever the consensus was. You don't

860
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: ever want to think that you're going to be perfect.

861
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: You just have to know what the problem is. You

862
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: have to know what you did and know you know, okay,

863
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: what's the downside of this, and when he continuously on

864
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: tape shows me that he doesn't know that, I go, whoah, like,

865
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: especially since Carson went did yep absolutely and then the

866
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: same offense Carson Wentz. I went back and watched this film.

867
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't show those laws and then people rave about

868
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: what about Carson Wentz Right now, Wow, he's really really smart. Yeah,

869
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: well that does. That does help from the quarterback position,

870
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: and I think I think that lends it to something else.

871
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of answers ago to Dan. It's

872
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: the concept of anticipation, and I think it's not just

873
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: anticipating the type of stuff you just talked about. Who's

874
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: coming from where and then what do you do? But

875
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: I think also when you wash out a little bit,

876
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't see him releasing the ball before the guy

877
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: gets out of his break. I don't see him like

878
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: you saw with darl where he knows based on angles

879
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: in depth, where his receivers are going to be. I'm

880
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: not sure Alan has that anticipation. And as I'm sure

881
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: as you well are well aware of a lot better

882
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: than I am. In the NFL, if you're not throwing

883
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: the ball before the guy breaks open, you're late. Oh,

884
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And that's you know, it's it's that's

885
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: relatively common with guys who've got big arms because they

886
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: haven't needed it. You know, a guy like Taste Keenum,

887
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: he's got great attia why he has you know, So

888
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: that's common with guys that big, that have big arms.

889
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I just know this. It's anticipation is not something that

890
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: gets taught in twelve months. Keeenom didn't becoming Eli Manning

891
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: didn't become a guy who anticipates the ball really well

892
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: in twelve months. He's been doing it since he was eight.

893
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: So for for people to think like, oh, they'll just

894
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: teach him to anticipate what what he's been he's been

895
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: not anticipating for twenty years. What makes you think he's

896
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: going to be able to be taught to anticipate in

897
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: twelve months on air? Will he be able to absolutely?

898
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Seven on seven? Probably when you're getting hit in the mouth. No,

899
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: it's just those aren't those aren't traits. That's again, that's

900
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: when you're looking at these guys, you go, can I

901
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: fix the words? Can I fix the fall? Can we really?

902
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: And that's just not a trait that you can teach

903
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: a guy because it's years in years in years of reps. Dan,

904
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: you played the position, you know it. We've got guys

905
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: that come into training camp every year. Um, some that

906
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: you know and some that you don't um. One thing

907
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: that we do know about Baker Mayfield is the guy

908
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: can compete. And I think that a lot of times.

909
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: You're looking at the measurables from this guy as far

910
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: as his his height and you know those kind of things.

911
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: You know. I I would stay away from him just

912
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: because of the high standpoint, but I know there's a

913
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of people that like him because of the other

914
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: attributes that he brings to a to uh that position,

915
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: leadership being one of them. A guy that's a little

916
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: bit gutsy, can you think accurate? I mean, you look

917
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: at the numbers from this guy from last year. He

918
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes as far as you know, completion, person,

919
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff. What do you think about Baker Mayfield

920
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: And do you like him? Do you not like him?

921
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Give us a little bit of something about him coming

922
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: from a quarterback position? Yeah, I like them. It's hard

923
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: for me to sit here and and you know, buy

924
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: into somebody who's going I really don't like him, because

925
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: here I'll give you kind of to two sides of

926
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: the coin. His numbers were great. Yeah, when you watch tape,

927
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma manufactured a ton of offense for him, a ton,

928
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of those plays aren't going

929
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: to carry in the NFL. They just won't. Like defenses

930
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: are faster and smarter and more prepared. So that concerns

931
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: me a little bit. It does. But if you take

932
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: away those plays that are those manufacturer plays, just break

933
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: down the other place. He throws it really well, really

934
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: well from the pocket. I think his greatest thing. And

935
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: he's the best deep ball thrower in this draft. Deep

936
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: and that's big in the NFL because and Jeff, you know,

937
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: you only get really three or four shots in a

938
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: game to push the ball downfield, and they had such

939
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: an impact on the outcome of the game. And you

940
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: can't be that team at that quarterback that goes, oh

941
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: we just missed. Oh we'll get it next time. You

942
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: gotta hit him, and he hits them consistently. So I

943
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: love that about him. I'd have to find out about

944
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: this this about him, the high thing, doesn't. It only

945
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: concerns me if if this Drew Brees and Russell Wilson

946
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: have minimized the high issue because they have become obsessed

947
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: with their craft, obsessed with it, and their offenses have

948
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: done a good job of moving them around, changing where

949
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: they throw backside a gap, front side a gap, half roll,

950
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: backside b gap, full rollout. They've always done that. So

951
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: one he needs to be in an offense that's gonna

952
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: do that for him too. I need to find out

953
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: if he's got the same obsessive traits that Russell Wilson

954
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees do because if he does, then I

955
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: then he'll I know, he'll he'll overcome that deficiency. If

956
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't, then it does become an issue. So I

957
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: do like him, I really do. I don't you know.

958
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard for me to sit here

959
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: and go, man, we're gonna find five really good quarterbacks

960
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: in this draft. We only have ten in the NFL

961
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: every year. So you know, I just I like him.

962
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: He's just got to be put in the exact right

963
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: location and it just real quick. In terms of being

964
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: obsessive with his craft, are you talking about being able

965
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: to find those throwing lanes in the pocket and being

966
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: to anticipate to get the ball on the right spot.

967
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be the biggest challenge for him at

968
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: that size throwing from the pocket is finding those passing

969
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: lanes and even seeing his wide receivers come open over

970
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Oh. Absolutely, And and I

971
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: referenced Drew Brees and Russell and up. I'll give you

972
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: guys this example. So when you're setting up, you know,

973
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: pass game concepts, play actions, set up in the backside

974
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: BE gap. First thing is people might not think like

975
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: back side B gap to the behind the center. There's

976
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: only about three ft of difference. Essentially, people may not

977
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: think that's a huge deal. It's a huge deal because

978
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: everything's married together. If he you know the backside B gap,

979
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches are going to educate their offensive lineman. Listen,

980
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Baker's launching point is the backside B gap. So that's

981
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna move with that. They're gonna set the

982
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: passing lane with that, and then those receivers depths are

983
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna be with with that. So that's what I'm talking

984
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: about being obsessed with. Listen, if the play tells you

985
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: me to set up in the backside B gap, I

986
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: can't set up in the backside B plus gap, you know,

987
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: the foot over. I can't set up behind the center.

988
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: I've got to be obsessed with how this thing works together.

989
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: And that's what Russell Wilson and Drew Brees have done

990
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: and that's why it's worked. And so yeah, that's he's

991
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: just got to have that obsession with every single little detail.

992
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: That's what I have to find out about him. Yeah,

993
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: and you know, and and it makes it makes sense

994
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna design this this offense around these

995
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: intangibles around Baker Mayfield and put all the time in

996
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: with their tree, with the routes for the receivers, you've

997
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: got to have that obsession about being in the right

998
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: place and making those throws from the quarterback position, or

999
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: it's just all'm not gonna work. So I see, that's

1000
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: a great point you make. We got one last quarterback,

1001
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Who all the guys are you know? This

1002
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: is there this we can talk about all these guys

1003
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: that know that this was the one who seems to

1004
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: be the most ready to play in the NFL. I

1005
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: would say from from a lot of people, and he

1006
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: probably did the most pro things in college. And I

1007
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: think that you know, he did well, and all those

1008
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: kinds of things tell us a little bit about from

1009
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: your perspective, and by the way, you're doing a great job.

1010
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: Just really from from somebody to play to position. Um,

1011
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: it's it's very good. Nice to hear a lot of

1012
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: the things that that the quarterbacks themselves think about when

1013
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: they go to evaluating these guys. So, Josh Rosen, what

1014
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: do you think about him? Yeah, well, thank you for

1015
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: saying that. I love Rosen. I flat out love him,

1016
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, again trying to find guys that change games.

1017
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: Rosen does two things that are so so so special.

1018
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, we live in the golden

1019
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: era of the quarterback mind. Defenses, like I've been saying,

1020
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: they do more. They're disguise more, they're intricate. They offenses

1021
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: asked quarterbacks to do more at the line of scrimmage. Informationally,

1022
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: you need to be able to think Tom Brady played

1023
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: at forty and one the m v P because of

1024
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: his brain, not his physical attributes through Breeze Kirk Cousins

1025
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: the number one to free agent quarterbacks, not because they're

1026
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: physical attributes. Nick Foles won's m v P the Super Bowl,

1027
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: not because of his physical stuff. All because of their minds.

1028
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: So Rosen, in contrary to Josh Allen, Rosen's got this

1029
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: great you see it on tape. He's got this great

1030
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: plan and process every single play, every single play, he

1031
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: knows what the problem is, what's going on, and he

1032
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: he runs the line of scrimmage. There's some clips I'm

1033
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna put him on my Twitter probably in the next

1034
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: ten days. I have of him against Memphis, and there's

1035
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: just this play he gets up and I fell in

1036
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: love with it. He gets up at the line of

1037
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: scrimmage and they're in a little bit of a no

1038
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: huddle offense. So he gets up at the line of

1039
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: scrimmage and he gets the under center. There's a play called,

1040
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: and then like you could just see from his body

1041
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: lane like something's up. He backs off the line of scrimmage,

1042
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of goes up and down the line of scrimmage,

1043
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: communicates those offensive line sends like this super incognito hand

1044
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: single to a receiver, backs out touchdown. So you told

1045
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: me two things. You knew exactly what was going on,

1046
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: and you either change the play or rerouted the play.

1047
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: You either have you totally called a new play or

1048
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: just change the receiver's route in touchdown. For me, that's quarterbacking.

1049
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: That's quarterbacking. And when you can do that at the

1050
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: college level, I know that I've got an open playbook

1051
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. And then if all the quarterbacks,

1052
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: the guys were the most accurate guys in the NFL.

1053
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: They play with great rhythm all the time. Their rhythm

1054
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: is great. He plays with awesome, awesome rhythm, and that's

1055
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: why he's accurate consistently. Yes, he's refined and efficient. He

1056
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: plays with awesome rhythm, and so I love him. You

1057
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: know when people talk about does he love football? Yeah,

1058
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: I go don't. Watched the Texas A and M A

1059
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: and M game against you excuse me U C l

1060
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: A last year. He gets beat down for three quarters.

1061
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean beat down, And take it from a guy

1062
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: who you know when I had to play, I got

1063
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: beat up a little bit to get up off the

1064
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: ground consistently like that something else is getting you up.

1065
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: You know you're not getting it up if you don't

1066
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: love it. If you don't love it, And then watch

1067
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in the emotion he plays with with

1068
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: his teammates, he leads him back to a huge win,

1069
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: and you just you. You don't do that for a

1070
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: guy who everyone says, quote unquote doesn't need football. It

1071
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: would have been easy for him to stay on the ground.

1072
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: He kept getting up. That's all I need to know

1073
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: about the kid. That's all I need to know. So

1074
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, I love I love his game, Dan, I

1075
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: got two more for you. One of the rest of

1076
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: the class, I know, Lamar Jackson is considered by many

1077
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: in that in that same top group. I have him

1078
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: kind of with Josh Allen below the top three guys

1079
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: um from the rest of the group, including Jackson. Anybody

1080
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: really jumped out at you that you think is being

1081
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: short sold here a little bit as a quarterback coming

1082
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: out in this class. Yeah, a little bit. But he's

1083
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: not gonna be an earlier pick. He'll be a later

1084
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: pick and maybe an undrafted guy. But I think he's

1085
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: got a chance. He's from Toledo, Logan Woodside, and you know,

1086
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: when I saw him at the combine, I never heard

1087
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: of him. I watched him throwing. I was like, huh,

1088
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: he throws it very naturally, which is a big deal

1089
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: to me. Very naturally throw the ball. He's a little

1090
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: bit shorter, but I love the way he moved, and

1091
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: then I went to go watch his tape against Toledo,

1092
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: and this is what stood out to me. He played

1093
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: his best football against the teams that outmanned Toledo. He

1094
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: played against Miami and lit them up. I was at

1095
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: that game, and I was he was putting balls in

1096
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: some spaces. I could not believe how he threw how

1097
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: well he threw the football, honestly. Yeah, So I think

1098
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: he reminds you a little bit of a case Keenum

1099
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: type guy. You know, he'll be taking a little bit

1100
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: later because he's undersized and whatnot. But I just liked

1101
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: when I watched him throw on tape, and when I

1102
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: watched him move, he looked like he was playing quarterback.

1103
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: He didn't look like he was just a thrower. Very good, Dan,

1104
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: And I know you haven't scouted Davis Webboo right now

1105
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: as a Giant's backup quarterback, So I'm gonna ask you

1106
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: a more general question. He was here last year in

1107
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: training camp. He didn't even take reps with the first

1108
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: or second team. He was kind of in a separate

1109
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: opportunity section with undrafted rookies and things like that. He

1110
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: took about I think two dozen practice reps in December,

1111
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: never got on the field of the game situation, played

1112
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: a couple of fourth quarters in the preseason, so the

1113
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: giants um experience with him on the field is extremely limited.

1114
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: All they have is this tape at cal when he

1115
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: played in you know, read half the field air raid,

1116
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: not really reading the defense type of system. How much

1117
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: can the Giants coaches, who by the way, weren't even

1118
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: here last year or just going off of tape, how

1119
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: much can they know about Davis Webb in addition to

1120
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: what they saw from him and did from their scouting

1121
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: in college. How much can that experience in the building

1122
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: with him, seeing him at practice, seeing the tape from

1123
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: practice really helped their evaluation of him as they decide

1124
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: if they wanted to take a quarterback in this year's draft. Yeah,

1125
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna certainly rely on And that's one of the

1126
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: good things about the NFL is all these coaches, even

1127
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: if you're not planning on your team taking the quarterback,

1128
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: they all do their evaluations of all the quarterbacks come

1129
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: out in the draft, so they'll tap into those evaluations

1130
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: if they like them or dislike them. Here's the reality.

1131
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Pat Shermant did an evaluation on Davis Webb last year.

1132
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: We don't know what it was. He may not have

1133
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: liked it, he may not like to have like, you know,

1134
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: his evaluation on him, So he might be behind the

1135
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: a ball to begin with. You just don't know. It's

1136
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: one of the downsides of the league, you know. I'm

1137
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: sure they've spent some time with them, especially in the

1138
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. But you I look at it

1139
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: like this, You're picking at number two if you're the

1140
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: New York Giants, and you're picking at two hoping that

1141
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: you never do it again, and so you have to

1142
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: again find game changers. ELI has changed your organization for

1143
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: the better part of fifteen years, and I'm going there's

1144
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: a guy that's probably gonna be sitting there, most likely

1145
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: in Josh Rose and or Sam Donalds. That gives you

1146
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: a really, really good opportunit unity to change your organization

1147
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: for the next dozen years. Don't don't get don't get

1148
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: cute with it, don't overthink it, you know, because to

1149
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Rosen reminds me a lot years ago,

1150
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's not anything against Davis Webb.

1151
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: I just you have this opportunity to make sure you're

1152
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: not picking here again anytime soon. Dan. That was wonderful,

1153
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: great information, so I'm definitely gonna keep your information. Let's

1154
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: talk again soon. Tremendous analysis. I think we all learned

1155
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: a lot. Thanks so much for the time, Dan, Thank you, Dan,

1156
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you absolutely. Danilovski, former NFL quarterback. Boy

1157
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: that was down. That was some quarterback in one on

1158
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: one right now, wasn't he breaks it down? When you

1159
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: get to the line of scrimmage in that four seconds,

1160
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: you know that the defense gives you an opportunity and

1161
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: it takes away from you. So you better know which

1162
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: one to get into quickly. Alright, We're gonna do our

1163
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: lobsters in a second, but I want to get two guys,

1164
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: have held I want to do rapid fire, guys, either

1165
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: one point or one question that you gotta get to

1166
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: the next caller, Dan in Hawaii, Mr Salomon, He's up first.

1167
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: What's up? Dan? Hey guys, Eagles, how are you doing great? Hey? One?

1168
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: One thing I just wanted to say, the thing that

1169
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Giants had lacked for probably five to seven years, the

1170
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: ability to control the ball on offense. And the reason

1171
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: they can't do that is they don't have a powerful line.

1172
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Give me a line, then give me Clinton Nelson or

1173
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: trade down, give me her Nandez and give me another one. Alright.

1174
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Alright, guys, thank you. And look, look, look,

1175
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: there's no question that the Giants still have worked to

1176
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: do in the offense when they had and they sold,

1177
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: they added Patrick O, Mommy, they're not done. No, no,

1178
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: I would expect whether they trade down or not, Dan,

1179
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if there wasn't an offensive lineman

1180
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: drafted sometime in the first four rounds. There will be

1181
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: and um, you know there's one in their interviewing today

1182
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: according to you know people, right, but we don't talk

1183
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: about that, Jeff, But I don't. I'm not telling you who.

1184
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: We don't talk about that. Yeah, I mean every team

1185
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: does their interviews with these gay I would be surprised

1186
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: if the Giants did not draft some sort of an

1187
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman at any at any position to the five

1188
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: in this coming up, in this draft, I would like

1189
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: to walk into the building. I'm on the install of

1190
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: a job, so I'm not gonna say, okay, let's go

1191
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: to Steven. It heads to Steve. What's up, Hey, how

1192
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: you doing Thank you, thank you, thank you for having

1193
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: that guy on on just Uh, it was wonderful because

1194
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand why quarterback is in top of everybody's mind.

1195
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean the value. You talked a lot about value, John,

1196
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: and just to put numbers on the value, Kirk Cousins

1197
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: is getting thirty million guaranteed for three years. Right, the

1198
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: best running it needs an average quarterback. The best running

1199
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: back is getting he's trying to get bell right. Running

1200
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: back and receiver trying to get at max fifteen millions,

1201
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: Steve Steve right. Now, the highest paid running back in

1202
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: football is Davante Freeman. He got a contract s more

1203
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: than Weston Richburg. Okay, do look fifteen million for your

1204
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: best running back, thirty million for an average quarterback. So

1205
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: when you're you look at value, you have to look

1206
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: at quarterback. And if you're not, if you're not in

1207
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: love with any of his quarterback, which I don't understand

1208
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: how you're not, then you got a trade because take

1209
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: the value. Now, why would you take a positional player.

1210
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't make I don't know it does. We're trying

1211
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. You need a good quarterback.

1212
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: You gotta, you gotta be in love with Thank you,

1213
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: you got to be in love with one of them.

1214
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: That it's going to go down what you just said,

1215
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: and that's value and you gotta hope that um And

1216
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: Rosen does remind you a lot of Eli Manning when

1217
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: you think about just the way he is. He's not

1218
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: a runner, you know, he's a smart guy even like

1219
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: and even like throw off his back foot when he

1220
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: gets pressured. He does all that stuff. So I mean,

1221
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: even some of the bad stuff Eli does, Rosen does

1222
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: that too. Just kind of wish you you you just

1223
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: knew what these guys everybody was talking about who they like,

1224
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: and I would love Rosen it to The injury stuff

1225
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: does scare me, and I'm with Dan. I don't get

1226
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: into the whole personality doesn't love football thing. I don't.

1227
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: I just don't. I haven't seen enough and hard enough

1228
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: for me to buy that. I'm not saying it's not

1229
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: a thing. I just don't know what's a thing. So

1230
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: I can't do it. But I know how many games

1231
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: he missed because of injury, and he couldn't finish the

1232
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: last two years, and he's a pretty slight guy. So

1233
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: that's what I worry about. There if that injury problem

1234
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: wasn't there, him and Donald will be right next to

1235
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: each other one and two of my board bing band.

1236
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: Don't don't think the injury problem. It lends itself to

1237
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: the theory of you know, I don't need football that

1238
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of things. You remember, I always go back and

1239
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: forth and you Mayfield a Rosen because of all sky

1240
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: and I'm back on Rosen. I would love Mayfield as

1241
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: of yesterday. It'll be interesting, it will be very interesting.

1242
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: And it was very interesting what Dan had mentioned about, um,

1243
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that has to be committed to

1244
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: that position and then standing from a small from how

1245
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: small he is. Great interview. That was a really good

1246
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: and it's nice to get somebody that played the position

1247
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: for ten years in the NFL. That's the guy I

1248
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: want to listen to. Okay, that's the guy that I

1249
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: that understands kind of some of the concepts that a

1250
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand. Absolutely all right, so we

1251
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: are already, we are ready. John's gonna cure it up here.

1252
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: This is a special day thing about this losing his mind.

1253
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: I am happy, happy, you gonna bring the whole thing

1254
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: over here. Charlie and Portland bade, how are you Charlie

1255
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: charco all right, So if you folks that don't know

1256
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: out there, Charlie's one of our frequent callers last offseason.

1257
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: He make sure you stay in the shot. Jeff, I somehow,

1258
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: somehow do this. How about you put this in between us?

1259
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: Here you go? You okay? Everybody? I was gonna fall down.

1260
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: He was hurting Jeff here Charlie. So, Charlie was a

1261
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: big Anthony Doboy fan, as he liked to call him

1262
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: Pepper lapew And when the Giants let him go, Charlie

1263
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: believed that Pepe would be a fifty three man roster

1264
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: guy for the Atlanta Falcons. Um. That's and and Jeff disagreed.

1265
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: They promptly bet some main lobsters. I have nothing to

1266
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: do with this is just Jeff and Jeff and arf

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: and um. He was the easiest bet Jeff ever one

1268
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: uh Dobbley did not make the fifties me man roster.

1269
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: And finally the lobsters have arrived from me. It said

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: it on the box eye, could you not? And now

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01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: we will? Jeff, that's his prize. Get a little bit

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: of a let's get a little bit of a preview. That.

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: What I'm going to be is there an octopus in there?

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: There's something that looks like an octopus. I mean these

1275
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: things right here could could resemble an octopus. There's some

1276
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: sort of how many lobsters are here, Charlie, how that's

1277
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: very generous? Is there any kind thank you? They got

1278
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: rubber bands around the cloth. I'm going to I'm just

1279
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: gonna trying to figure out the best way to take

1280
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: one out here, Charlie can and I know you're not

1281
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: going to tell me because you want me to get bit.

1282
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: How about this guy right here? I think that's a

1283
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: good one side. Are you serious? Hold on? Look at

1284
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: look at this John, go get it? They look at me, dude.

1285
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: I had this box of my office for an hour

1286
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: and a half, okay, and I heard them moving in there,

1287
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: so it was freaking me out. So I'm not touching

1288
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: of this is all you buy for this guy? Don't

1289
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: they're moving all right? This is scary. Get in there,

1290
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: going in there? No, I know I did with the bet.

1291
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: There's only two clause. Right. Look at this guy. Well,

1292
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: this guy's cling up. You can pick them up, pick

1293
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: him up by the tail. I can't get to the

1294
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: tail Charlie. They're putting, they're putting backwards. All right, here

1295
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: we go, okay, okay, we got up lifted up for me.

1296
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: Whoa this guy is? This guy's feisty. There we go.

1297
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: There it is ha ha oh look this guy's got

1298
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: one missing pack. That the right hood, Charlie. Thank you

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: so much for the bet. I will tell you and

1300
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: they're good butter or whatever you're gonna use on them. Okay,

1301
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: any recommendations, yeah, usually just you know, have some butter,

1302
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: drawn butter, you know, get get some potatoes with them,

1303
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, there should be some stuff in there.

1304
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: I hope they sent you them, like DIBs and all

1305
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. They could. They could be at the bottom,

1306
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: at the bottom, but I don't see anything else. Yeah,

1307
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: there you go. You got one there, Charlie. This is wonderful.

1308
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And again you didn't under send ten.

1309
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: That's a very good job out of you. That's all right.

1310
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: I would have said you more, but the prices went up,

1311
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: so but I think I think you've got enough for

1312
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: your family. Yes we do, Yes, we do. We will

1313
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: let you and Jeff will make sure these get cooked

1314
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: the right way and it will get done. And he

1315
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: will have some excellent lobsters and they don't suffering. And

1316
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: the next time I'm on the show, I will tell

1317
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: you how I prepared them and how I ate them, Charlie,

1318
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: And anytime you want to do another bet, just let

1319
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: me know. Thank you, Charlie. All right, buddy, thank you

1320
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: for coming through. We appreciate that. Hey, he's a man

1321
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: of his word. Thank you, Charlie. He's he's a good man,

1322
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: and he stuck by his bets at the lobsters. That

1323
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: a great Charlie sent us one lobster for every new

1324
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: lineman that he wants on the Giants. That's true. And

1325
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: by the way, we we You've had some great shows

1326
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: and some great guests. I think this might have been

1327
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: the best one of the Springs so far. It's fantastic,

1328
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: danil Lzsky feel Savage did a great job. Thanks so much.

1329
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: Next week our draft process continues. It's l s U

1330
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: with the Tino and Lance on Monday, and they'll make

1331
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: sure we get some extra time for your calls on

1332
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: Monday's show as well. That should be our only guest

1333
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: l s U. For Jeff Eagles. I'm John Schmill. Thank

1334
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: you to Charlie for the lobsters, and we'll see on Monday.

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01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Everybody. At seventy degrees outside this week,

1336
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: you go out and have some fun. It's gonna be

1337
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be forty on Monday. So while last, we'll

1338
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Speaker 1: see you that everybody, see you later, guys,