WEBVTT - Gerry’s ‘Happy Hour’ Return!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Serena, and we are here with the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor himself. It's been a while, Gary Turner. Welcome the

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<v Speaker 1>Bacher Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you so much for having me. This is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an exciting morning for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. How you doing. What's new?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Life is actually pretty good. I've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>through the doldrooms of winter. I'm starting to look out

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<v Speaker 2>on the lake now and it looks sunny, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just count the days down now until it gets

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<v Speaker 2>nice and warm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well are you You're in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Northern Indiana?

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<v Speaker 1>And how is it? Yeah, I'm assuming it's cold. It's

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<v Speaker 1>cold there right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It was thirty two this morning when I got up,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it's cold as heck. But you know, by

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend it's supposed to be back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, another couple of weeks the boats will

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<v Speaker 2>start going in the water, so it'll be.

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<v Speaker 3>Good way to spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been Have you been getting any pickled games in,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least indoor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Yeah, oh yeah, I still play Monday, Wednesday, Friday

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<v Speaker 2>about three hours each morning. I got a tournament coming

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<v Speaker 2>up next Tuesday morning. So it's my it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>my barometer for health and well being and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a level of tiredness. If I get beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>I start wondering what if something's wrong. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>short of that, I'm wondering if I'm not working hard enough. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bat myself back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Three hours is long. I actually don't think I can

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<v Speaker 3>play pick a ball for three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hours is long. That is a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The thing is, it's it's with the group that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have seen all along, the group that was

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<v Speaker 2>at the wedding and that has been with me, So

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of know each other's tendencies. So it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit easier, but we still play pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We try to kill each other from from your now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's been it's been a year since your season.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back, who uh, which of the women would you

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<v Speaker 1>consider to be a really good pickleball player? Were there any?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? You know, Ellen played pretty well, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>Faith didn't give herself a chance. She seemed fairly athletic

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<v Speaker 2>and well coordinated and so forth, and for the little

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<v Speaker 2>bit she played, she looked like she enjoyed it, So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's kind of big. I think when you

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<v Speaker 2>really like it, I think you'd get into it pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well let's get into AFR from Grant season. Because

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<v Speaker 3>we saw that you were there at the taping. How

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<v Speaker 3>did the night go?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? That was kind of fun, you know, most of all,

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<v Speaker 2>it was great to be back in the environment and

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<v Speaker 2>see all the people and shake hands and have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat with Jesse and and you know, talk to Clayton.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really had the opportunity to talk to Clayton

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<v Speaker 2>before that, and you know, see some of the old personnel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really would have loved

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<v Speaker 2>to have had that be a two or three day event.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you feel going into the panel? Was there

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<v Speaker 3>any thing specific that you wanted to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I sort of mentally we heard some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I wanted to say beforehand. I knew kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what the questions were going to be, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it release hits close to home for me. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was fairly well prepared with my answer and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good about what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you and Clayton chat about anything? In particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we just got him on.

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<v Speaker 2>Our podcast, everything from what we like to drink, to

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<v Speaker 2>how we're doing with our self help projects, to our

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<v Speaker 2>own seasons, everything under the sun. Like I said, we

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't talked before, so it was a blank slate.

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<v Speaker 1>Being there and seeing Grant and you know, seeing some

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<v Speaker 1>of the women kind of you know, lean into him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. How did that make you feel? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you feel any similarities? Did you feel like you had

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a similar journey or very different?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a similar journey. I mean, you guys have been

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<v Speaker 2>in the environment and you know what it does to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know how all consuming it is. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know when you're there for the one reason of finding

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<v Speaker 2>a partner, and you're so focused and you're so devoted

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<v Speaker 2>to that, everything else gets blocked out and you give

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<v Speaker 2>undivided attention to each of the women that you're with

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<v Speaker 2>at any given time. It's I could really relate to

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<v Speaker 2>where he was at. You could see the struggle and

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<v Speaker 2>you could see the difficulty he was having.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it seeing Joan and Chalk? Had you had

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to meet Shock before?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, and it was pretty fun before the AFR

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<v Speaker 2>that morning for breakfast, we were able to get together

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<v Speaker 2>and and talk and so that was that was pretty nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course Clayton comes along, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it wound up being a bigger group. And then after

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<v Speaker 2>the AFR it was especially fun because it was Joan

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<v Speaker 2>and Chalk and Leslie joined us, so I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get her perspective on things, and you know what she's

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<v Speaker 2>got going on. So I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>For someone that's been in a relationship after the show

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<v Speaker 1>and being a lead, What would your advice be to

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<v Speaker 1>Grant right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, so Grant's been in such a

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<v Speaker 2>tidal wave of events and emotions and so forth. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going so fast it's like drinking out of a

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<v Speaker 2>fire hydrant. It's time now to just slow it up

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out how life will feel day to day,

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<v Speaker 2>just like even try to find the most boring days

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<v Speaker 2>and see how well you get along with your new partner.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, try to imagine some of the small obstacles

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll need to overcome as a couple and how

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<v Speaker 2>you'll handle it and start to react to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So bottom line is take it slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you mind sharing what went wrong in your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Teresa.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not so sure anything went wrong. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had conversations, and I think our mutual deep devotion

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<v Speaker 2>to our families kind of reared its head in conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>and we started trying to realize or trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>that common ground, the commonality of where we could share

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<v Speaker 2>a life and where we could share a home and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth. Then her being a brand new grandmother and

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<v Speaker 2>me having gone through the loss of a spouse and

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<v Speaker 2>feeling the support of my daughters, it almost created a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where we recognized fairly quickly that we weren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to find that spot where we could be together. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think more than anything that was it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like there was a mutual admiration and respect

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<v Speaker 2>and empathy in both ways that we kind of understood

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<v Speaker 2>the other person's situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you think if you and Theresa had been

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<v Speaker 3>from the same place, your families were in the same place,

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<v Speaker 3>you would potentially still be together today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's a difficult hypothetical question based on what

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<v Speaker 2>I know and based on the experiences that we had

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<v Speaker 2>back then. If you eliminate that huge obstacle, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see no red flags. I still don't see any reason

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<v Speaker 2>why it wouldn't have worked out. But we were also

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<v Speaker 2>so new to the relationship that we may not have

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<v Speaker 2>uncovered that layer of the onion that could have been

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<v Speaker 2>a problem yet. So it's hard to answer that. Really.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what advice would you give to people that are

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<v Speaker 3>dating long distance?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, what does long distance mean? Does it

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<v Speaker 2>mean a couple hours drive or does it mean halfway

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<v Speaker 2>across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you Yeah, let's say let's say we're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking different states.

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<v Speaker 3>Across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay. I think the best advice is to

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation early on about the ability to visit

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. You know, can you afford to fly

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<v Speaker 2>frequently or is it going to be the drudgery of

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<v Speaker 2>packing and driving. You need to kind of uncover what

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<v Speaker 2>the possible problems might be. You know, I went quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time after Teresa and I separated, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I decided my journey's not done. I really think that,

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<v Speaker 2>in a roundabout way, I want to prove that the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Bachelor show was still successful, that it taught me

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<v Speaker 2>enough lessons to get me to the right spot so

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to learn from my failures, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>you learn more from your failures than your successes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with each dating episode I've I've tried to

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<v Speaker 2>learn a little bit more about myself and about the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you can overcome to get to a successful relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on Golden Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really curious as to how it will look. I,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, you know, I don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>contestant there, you know, I feel like it's not the

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<v Speaker 2>right spot for me. But I'm intrigued by how it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to look. Is it going to be like two

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<v Speaker 2>parallel parties, one in one ballroom and one and another

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, the golden group and the younger group,

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<v Speaker 2>and and some people out of one ballroom sneak to

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<v Speaker 2>the other ballroom and back and forth. And I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea how it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am I was going to ask you, which

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<v Speaker 3>this question now thinking about it further doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going to ask you, you know, oh, well would you go?

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<v Speaker 3>But all of the Golden Women are off of your

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<v Speaker 3>season because there's only the one season of the of

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<v Speaker 3>Golden Bachelor, So you've already dated all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, but I think what I anticipate

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<v Speaker 2>the women that are going to be there for my season.

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<v Speaker 2>I've also developed good friendships with you know, I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to Kathy, and I talked to Susan, and I'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Faith, and I'll talk to Nancy and I'll even

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Leslie from time to time. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>those people are there, it's kind of like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cultivate a romance with a friend. You know, somebody you're

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<v Speaker 2>friends with and somebody that you're comfortable being in that

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<v Speaker 2>friend zone. So it just wouldn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you. Are you currently dating anyone now?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What's dating life been like since you're in Teresa's breakup?

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<v Speaker 2>I I I am dating someone. I think at this

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<v Speaker 2>point it's going well. But I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>too much and jinx okay, And I'm trying to respectfully

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<v Speaker 2>get to a point where there's an acceptable amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time from from my divorce. Maybe that's an old fashioned thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe it doesn't matter as much as I

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<v Speaker 2>think it does, but but to be respectful, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of want to slow roll this. And I have told

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa that I'm dating someone, so that's it won't be

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<v Speaker 2>a shocking news to her. But mostly following my own

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<v Speaker 2>advice that they gave you earlier, go slow, take it easy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, learn this.

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<v Speaker 3>Have your kids had the chance to meet this person?

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<v Speaker 2>They have? And I think the the fun part there

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<v Speaker 2>is she has daughters that I really relate to, and

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter or her she relates well to my daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've been around each other briefly, and but there's

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<v Speaker 2>it's been fun. It's been a very enjoyable encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch Joane season at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the guys that you saw in Jones season

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<v Speaker 1>that you think would be good pairings with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the women from your season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Do you want to play matchmaker at all? Joan?

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<v Speaker 3>Joan is all about it. Maybe you two could come

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<v Speaker 3>down and set some people up.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless her for that. I am I am not

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<v Speaker 2>good at that because Number one, I think you don't

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<v Speaker 2>see enough of a person on the show to get

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<v Speaker 2>a really good read for what there likes and dislikes

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<v Speaker 2>and their character and all of that. So Joan has

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<v Speaker 2>much closer contact with those guys. I will say, I

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<v Speaker 2>think there are some very available and attractive women form

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<v Speaker 2>my season that I think would do great in a

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<v Speaker 2>nice social mixer with those guys. That'd be fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that's part of Bachelor and.

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<v Speaker 3>Paradise, Gary, do you think that we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>a crossover between the Golden contestants and the regular season

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<v Speaker 3>contestants at all?

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<v Speaker 2>And by crossover you mean some.

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<v Speaker 3>Some friendships, maybe some sparks, maybe some connections, maybe just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just platonic bonds.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, certainly, I think there will be some really good

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<v Speaker 2>friendships come out of that. Whether or not there's some

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<v Speaker 2>genuine sparks, I'm not really sure. Because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of faith in the women that were on my show,

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<v Speaker 2>A huge amount of faith in them. I believe in them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'll be wise enough to realize that that

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<v Speaker 2>amount of age difference could be really different or difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>See, Like, I personally this is and I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what it's going to look like either.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't really all curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think they're going to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>same location. Like, I don't think they're gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>in Like the show does such a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>just separating guys from girls when they want to. When

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<v Speaker 1>we're in Paradise, right, I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue separating the Golden contestants from the regular contestant.

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<v Speaker 3>You think it'll be like almost two separate villains. And

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<v Speaker 3>then they might intermix and mingle for like cocktail hours in.

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<v Speaker 1>A rosy May. They may intermix them for like like

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<v Speaker 1>a prom night, like I'd see, I could see like

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<v Speaker 1>they're being a.

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<v Speaker 3>Few or like a if they do a game or something, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Truth Circle.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think they're going to be living in

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<v Speaker 1>separate quarters.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think that's a good theory. That's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what I envision as well, is like the Golden

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<v Speaker 3>Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>The I just don't think they could risk Kevin a

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five year old dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Two year old either. But I think keeping them close

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<v Speaker 2>and having an interwoven where they just brush together for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a cocktail or you know, some things like

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<v Speaker 2>that I think adds to the intrigue and the mystique

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<v Speaker 2>of it and and some of the uh question that

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<v Speaker 2>would keep people coming back week the week.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that too. Yeah, people are definitely curious to

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<v Speaker 3>see if it's gonna happen. I don't think it will,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think the intrigue of could it it we'll

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<v Speaker 3>keep people engaged. But I think it'll end up being

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<v Speaker 3>more of like friendly relationships. I mean, we even know,

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<v Speaker 3>like Susan and Rachel from Joey's season have like a

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<v Speaker 3>great friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you make would you? Would you make an appearance

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<v Speaker 1>if they ask you?

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<v Speaker 2>I would absolutely love to do that. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in talking to one of the producers, I told him

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be a contestant, but I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to have a recurring role or a cameo role. I

0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.920
<v Speaker 2>keep saying, I'll be I'll be Well's bar back. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>clean dishes and glasses for him while he's doing the bartending.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll escort a date or a host of

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<v Speaker 2>date or something. I think that would be great fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love they got to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll they got to have bring you down to like judge,

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<v Speaker 1>like a pickle ball game or something. I get to

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<v Speaker 1>see that. Speaking of pickleball that I just brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing three days a week, But how is your health?

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<v Speaker 1>Most importantly?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, you know, I appreciate your asking because I get

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<v Speaker 2>that question a lot. I feel great, and you know,

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:14.600
<v Speaker 2>as I said, until I have any symptoms, there's no treatment,

0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.439
<v Speaker 2>so I go frequently for blood tests. I'm on like

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<v Speaker 2>a six month schedule now, and I'm kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>feel optimistic because the doctor has said, well, when you

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<v Speaker 2>turn seventy five, we're going to have to go three

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<v Speaker 2>month increments. So it's telling me that at least he

0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.520
<v Speaker 2>expects me to live another couple of years to get

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<v Speaker 2>to that. But the bottom line is I feel really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a frustrating feeling because I'm assuming that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait until it progresses to a certain point

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<v Speaker 3>to then accept treatment. Right, do you feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like this kind of waiting period or do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for this time that, like your health is not

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<v Speaker 3>seriously impacted and you can continue living day to day

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<v Speaker 3>as you usually would.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's good parts in there, and I'll break it

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<v Speaker 2>down a little bit. First of all, twenty percent of

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:12.679
<v Speaker 2>the people who have Waldronstrom's syndrome Waldron's strooms, whatever the

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hell it is, never have treatment. They outlive it. You know,

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:21.240
<v Speaker 2>something else gets them. Second of all, and I mean

0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.680
<v Speaker 2>this sincerely from the time I got this diagnosis. It's

0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a privilege to live like you're dying. I don't turn

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<v Speaker 2>down anything. I feel like I'm more open to emotions,

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm more open to experiences. The person I'm dating will

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<v Speaker 2>say do you want to go do? And before she

0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>even gets out the rest of the sentence, I will

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.639
<v Speaker 2>say yes. So I'm in on everything and it makes

0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.320
<v Speaker 2>life exciting because you kind of in the back of

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.800
<v Speaker 2>your head feel like you've got a lot of living

0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>to do and you don't know how long you have

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it. Don't turn down anything, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>in a way, it's it's really a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's that's a good mindset. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>person you're dating. Is she adventurous?

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 2>She is that, Yes, she wants to go do Her

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 2>life experiences have been you know, a lot of travel

0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. So that's kind of how we're approaching.

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 3>How are your daughters doing with the diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good. It's not like it's talked about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they understand the baseline of as long as

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>dad says he's feeling fine and not having any of

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 2>those symptoms, we're just going to go on like everything's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you share with us. I know you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk too much about your relationship and keep it private,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you share with us when you knew that

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it is becoming more of a serious relationship, when you

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>were gonna, like maybe essentially call each other boyfriend girlfriend, or.

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 3>When you were like, I should maybe let Teresa know

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 3>about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I'll start with your question, Serena. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with Joan and I think Leslie was in

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 2>on it, and I asked for their advice. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>to be respectful and to do the right thing. When

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<v Speaker 2>should I talk to Teresa about this and let her know?

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And their advice was to talk to her soon. So

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.879
<v Speaker 2>on the car ride from the hotel to the airport

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<v Speaker 2>after the AFR the next day, I called Teresa. We

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 2>had a really nice conversation, and you know, I let

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 2>her know, So you know that's that part of it. Now, Joe,

0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 2>for your question. I hate to tell you this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say it because I know I'm going

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 2>to get baseballs thrown at me. It was almost the

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>first time I saw her. It was the look that

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>she gave me. It was like, all of a sudden,

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I was consumed by this look and I had this

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 2>actual physical feeling and I pushed it off. I go,

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 2>know this, that was silly, that's ridiculous. And with every

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 2>encounter that feeling has instantly come back with her look

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, damn, this is pretty odd.

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Did you get that at all from any of the

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>women on your season?

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<v Speaker 3>Like this partecular experience life before?

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I think the closest to that was when Faith played

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>the guitar and sang to me on I think it

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>was the first night she got the first impression Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the closest to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's so romantic, Garrett. Don't think anyone's going to

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 3>throw baseballs at you. I think people would love.

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>To hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, probably someone the whole love at first

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 2>sight thing. I've never been in on that and all

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden hearing, am I really feel like I'm

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>experiencing that.

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. Congratulations. Can we ask you how you met her?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to keep that private?

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll hold on to bed and any more details

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.199
<v Speaker 2>for a while long. Do you again? I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be Do.

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>You know is do you know if Teresa's dating currently

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<v Speaker 1>dating anyone?

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but she's kind of on my list

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to call again here in the next couple of days.

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to get an update on on what her

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 2>plans are with The Bachelor of ar.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sorr, are you so? Are you too? Are you

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>too friendly? At this point? You're on good terms?

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think we were ever on bad terms.

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>I think from from my side of it, my perspective,

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I withdrew from her. I felt like maybe I was

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a source of bad feelings and the negativity that came

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the show and so forth. So I kind

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of avoided talking to her, and not out of you know,

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>ill will or being combat of it all, just I

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>thought it was better if we gave each other space.

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I was wrong with that and now I intend

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to go a different direction with it.

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no perfect way to handle a breakup,

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 3>and you guys were in a very unique situation.

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you expect to see from her if she

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>does go to batch her and Paradise.

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, I would hope that she finds some success in

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>finding someone. I think she might be a little bit

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>of the same opinion that I am, that she's kind

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>of been there done that, and that maybe her preference

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>would be to not be involved in it, but maybe

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>a cameo or something like that. But I can't speak

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>for her. I really don't. Yah.

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I hope she goes. I do.

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So what what else scary? Anything new you're working

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>on right now?

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh? There's not a lot, I uh I. I really

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed my first ever winter being away from the Midwest.

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.959
<v Speaker 2>I was in Mexico for a couple of months, and

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that was I was in San Carlos, which is, you know,

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>about halfway down the mainland of Mexico on the Baja.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And I've got the project going with the Hearing Aid

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Company with Starkey's very happy to have partnered with them,

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and because I feel strongly about that, and I've got

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a book that is really close to being done. What's

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the what's the completing Well, it starts with the first

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>date I had with my wife Tony and so back

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty seven and goes forward. Most of the time.

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It talks about my experience. You know in the show.

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Would you describe it as a like an autobiography, It's it's.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Much closer to an autobiography than it is a tell

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>all for sure. I you know, I have certain things

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that are important to me. You know, the feeling of

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 2>not being invisible as you get older, the feeling of

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 2>wanting and needing to have someone in your life if

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if that's your preference, and and how

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 2>to do those things, and how to put yourself in

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>a positive mindset for those things, taking care of your

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>health mentally and physically, and those things. So just a

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>reminder to people of my age and to any age,

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of all the things that are important that I think

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 2>are important. So that's kind of what it is.

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>That's great. When can we expect it to potentially come out, Well,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>It'll be within the next sixty days. You know, it

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>should be good to go.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Now that it's been you know, it's been a little

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>over a year since your season, and you know, looking

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>back on everything, now, what do you think the best

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>thing you took away from the experience.

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, A couple of things come to mind. The first

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>thing I guess I would say is that I have

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 2>a much better self awareness going into the show. I

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 2>had no idea I was such a criba that I

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<v Speaker 2>that I would connect with people's feelings so deeply and

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<v Speaker 2>so knowing that I've had to adjust my behaviors and

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<v Speaker 2>how I approach things. So that's the first thing. The

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<v Speaker 2>second thing is, I guess the message that I hope

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<v Speaker 2>people would see is that if you're in your seventies

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<v Speaker 2>you can still have a hell of a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't write yourself off because you get to whatever age.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, okay, my first social Security check

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<v Speaker 2>is here, I'm done for now find myself a lazy

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<v Speaker 2>boy and I'm done. It should be just the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the things I guess that that first

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<v Speaker 2>come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think do you think you did that before

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<v Speaker 1>going Do you think you were that person before going

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<v Speaker 1>on the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting close. I was kind of getting there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of you know, it just becomes so much

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<v Speaker 2>easier to not get up off the couch and go

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<v Speaker 2>do and be and get involved and so forth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just easier to kind of sit down, have your coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, call it good and and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I really got revitalized through the show completely, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I've kept that up since then.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. So what is next? We have the book

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<v Speaker 3>coming out your partnership with the hearing aid company. You're

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<v Speaker 3>dating someone, what do you see kind of if we

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<v Speaker 3>talk to in a year, where do you see yourself being?

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<v Speaker 3>It can be general or specific.

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<v Speaker 2>If you and I talk again in a year, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would look back and recite all the places

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<v Speaker 2>that I had been in this year, because not only

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<v Speaker 2>am I personally motivated to have adventures and go travel,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going to have a partner that wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do the same thing, and having those similar tastes

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<v Speaker 2>will be huge. I really think in that year that

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have some experiences related to the book where I

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<v Speaker 2>have a tour and you know, and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go for signings and so forth, and I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be fun. You know, I still get recognized all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, wherever I go, and I enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people will sometimes be apologetic or they won't approach,

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<v Speaker 2>but everyone gets a part of the fun when they

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<v Speaker 2>when they start a conversation or they want to take

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<v Speaker 2>a picture. And I'm still happy to do that with people.

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<v Speaker 2>So a year from now, I hope it's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of that. I hope I lament that I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been home much.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that all right, I think that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we let you go, give us your most simplistic

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<v Speaker 1>advice you would give to the next golden bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the best you can do to not get caught

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<v Speaker 2>up in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, don't let the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tidal wave of activity take you up to a velocity

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<v Speaker 2>that supersede your ability to think clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that. I like that. That's very good. Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for taking the time out of

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<v Speaker 1>your day. We know you're a busy guy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun chatting with you. We've it's been a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was a nice catch up and it was

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<v Speaker 1>great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. I love seeing you guys, so happy that you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing well and you look awesome and your relationship is flourishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Very happy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, and to all our listeners, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys so much for tuning into Betchler Happy Hour.

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