Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour. I'm Joe
Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here with the Golden
Speaker 1: Bachelor himself. It's been a while, Gary Turner. Welcome the
Speaker 1: Bacher Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for having me. This is
Speaker 2: kind of an exciting morning for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How you doing. What's new?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Life is actually pretty good. I've gotten
Speaker 2: through the doldrooms of winter. I'm starting to look out
Speaker 2: on the lake now and it looks sunny, and uh,
Speaker 2: I just count the days down now until it gets
Speaker 2: nice and warm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well are you You're in Indiana.
Speaker 2: Right, Northern Indiana?
Speaker 1: And how is it? Yeah, I'm assuming it's cold. It's
Speaker 1: cold there right now.
Speaker 2: It was thirty two this morning when I got up,
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's cold as heck. But you know, by
Speaker 2: the weekend it's supposed to be back in the seventies.
Speaker 2: And you know, another couple of weeks the boats will
Speaker 2: start going in the water, so it'll be.
Speaker 3: Good way to spring.
Speaker 1: Have you been Have you been getting any pickled games in,
Speaker 1: like at least indoor?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, oh yeah, I still play Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Speaker 2: about three hours each morning. I got a tournament coming
Speaker 2: up next Tuesday morning. So it's my it's kind of
Speaker 2: my barometer for health and well being and so forth.
Speaker 2: There's a level of tiredness. If I get beyond that,
Speaker 2: I start wondering what if something's wrong. And if I'm
Speaker 2: short of that, I'm wondering if I'm not working hard enough. So,
Speaker 2: you know, bat myself back and forth.
Speaker 3: Three hours is long. I actually don't think I can
Speaker 3: play pick a ball for three hours.
Speaker 1: Three hours is long. That is a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, it's it's with the group that
Speaker 2: you guys have seen all along, the group that was
Speaker 2: at the wedding and that has been with me, So
Speaker 2: we kind of know each other's tendencies. So it makes
Speaker 2: it a little bit easier, but we still play pretty hard.
Speaker 1: We try to kill each other from from your now,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been it's been a year since your season.
Speaker 1: Looking back, who uh, which of the women would you
Speaker 1: consider to be a really good pickleball player? Were there any?
Speaker 2: Actually? You know, Ellen played pretty well, but I think
Speaker 2: Faith didn't give herself a chance. She seemed fairly athletic
Speaker 2: and well coordinated and so forth, and for the little
Speaker 2: bit she played, she looked like she enjoyed it, So,
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of big. I think when you
Speaker 2: really like it, I think you'd get into it pretty well.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's get into AFR from Grant season. Because
Speaker 3: we saw that you were there at the taping. How
Speaker 3: did the night go?
Speaker 2: Oh? That was kind of fun, you know, most of all,
Speaker 2: it was great to be back in the environment and
Speaker 2: see all the people and shake hands and have a
Speaker 2: chat with Jesse and and you know, talk to Clayton.
Speaker 2: I hadn't really had the opportunity to talk to Clayton
Speaker 2: before that, and you know, see some of the old personnel.
Speaker 2: So I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really would have loved
Speaker 2: to have had that be a two or three day event.
Speaker 3: How did you feel going into the panel? Was there
Speaker 3: any thing specific that you wanted to say?
Speaker 2: Well, I sort of mentally we heard some of the
Speaker 2: things I wanted to say beforehand. I knew kind of
Speaker 2: what the questions were going to be, and you know,
Speaker 2: it release hits close to home for me. So I
Speaker 2: was fairly well prepared with my answer and I felt
Speaker 2: pretty good about what I said.
Speaker 1: What did you and Clayton chat about anything? In particular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just got him on.
Speaker 2: Our podcast, everything from what we like to drink, to
Speaker 2: how we're doing with our self help projects, to our
Speaker 2: own seasons, everything under the sun. Like I said, we
Speaker 2: hadn't talked before, so it was a blank slate.
Speaker 1: Being there and seeing Grant and you know, seeing some
Speaker 1: of the women kind of you know, lean into him
Speaker 1: a little bit. How did that make you feel? Did
Speaker 1: you feel any similarities? Did you feel like you had
Speaker 1: somewhat of a similar journey or very different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a similar journey. I mean, you guys have been
Speaker 2: in the environment and you know what it does to you,
Speaker 2: and you know how all consuming it is. And you
Speaker 2: know when you're there for the one reason of finding
Speaker 2: a partner, and you're so focused and you're so devoted
Speaker 2: to that, everything else gets blocked out and you give
Speaker 2: undivided attention to each of the women that you're with
Speaker 2: at any given time. It's I could really relate to
Speaker 2: where he was at. You could see the struggle and
Speaker 2: you could see the difficulty he was having.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How is it seeing Joan and Chalk? Had you had
Speaker 3: a chance to meet Shock before?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and it was pretty fun before the AFR
Speaker 2: that morning for breakfast, we were able to get together
Speaker 2: and and talk and so that was that was pretty nice.
Speaker 2: And then of course Clayton comes along, and you know,
Speaker 2: it wound up being a bigger group. And then after
Speaker 2: the AFR it was especially fun because it was Joan
Speaker 2: and Chalk and Leslie joined us, so I got to
Speaker 2: get her perspective on things, and you know what she's
Speaker 2: got going on. So I loved it.
Speaker 1: For someone that's been in a relationship after the show
Speaker 1: and being a lead, What would your advice be to
Speaker 1: Grant right now?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, so Grant's been in such a
Speaker 2: tidal wave of events and emotions and so forth. You know,
Speaker 2: you're going so fast it's like drinking out of a
Speaker 2: fire hydrant. It's time now to just slow it up
Speaker 2: and figure out how life will feel day to day,
Speaker 2: just like even try to find the most boring days
Speaker 2: and see how well you get along with your new partner.
Speaker 2: You know, try to imagine some of the small obstacles
Speaker 2: that you'll need to overcome as a couple and how
Speaker 2: you'll handle it and start to react to each other.
Speaker 2: So bottom line is take it slow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you mind sharing what went wrong in your
Speaker 1: relationship with Teresa.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not so sure anything went wrong. I you know,
Speaker 2: we've had conversations, and I think our mutual deep devotion
Speaker 2: to our families kind of reared its head in conversations,
Speaker 2: and we started trying to realize or trying to find
Speaker 2: that common ground, the commonality of where we could share
Speaker 2: a life and where we could share a home and
Speaker 2: so forth. Then her being a brand new grandmother and
Speaker 2: me having gone through the loss of a spouse and
Speaker 2: feeling the support of my daughters, it almost created a
Speaker 2: situation where we recognized fairly quickly that we weren't going
Speaker 2: to find that spot where we could be together. And
Speaker 2: I think more than anything that was it. And I
Speaker 2: really feel like there was a mutual admiration and respect
Speaker 2: and empathy in both ways that we kind of understood
Speaker 2: the other person's situation.
Speaker 3: So do you think if you and Theresa had been
Speaker 3: from the same place, your families were in the same place,
Speaker 3: you would potentially still be together today.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a difficult hypothetical question based on what
Speaker 2: I know and based on the experiences that we had
Speaker 2: back then. If you eliminate that huge obstacle, I can
Speaker 2: see no red flags. I still don't see any reason
Speaker 2: why it wouldn't have worked out. But we were also
Speaker 2: so new to the relationship that we may not have
Speaker 2: uncovered that layer of the onion that could have been
Speaker 2: a problem yet. So it's hard to answer that. Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what advice would you give to people that are
Speaker 3: dating long distance?
Speaker 2: Well, first off, what does long distance mean? Does it
Speaker 2: mean a couple hours drive or does it mean halfway
Speaker 2: across the country.
Speaker 1: What do you Yeah, let's say let's say we're talking,
Speaker 1: We're talking different states.
Speaker 3: Across the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay. I think the best advice is to
Speaker 2: have a conversation early on about the ability to visit
Speaker 2: back and forth. You know, can you afford to fly
Speaker 2: frequently or is it going to be the drudgery of
Speaker 2: packing and driving. You need to kind of uncover what
Speaker 2: the possible problems might be. You know, I went quite
Speaker 2: some time after Teresa and I separated, and and you know,
Speaker 2: I decided my journey's not done. I really think that,
Speaker 2: in a roundabout way, I want to prove that the
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor show was still successful, that it taught me
Speaker 2: enough lessons to get me to the right spot so
Speaker 2: I've tried to learn from my failures, which I think
Speaker 2: you learn more from your failures than your successes, you know.
Speaker 2: And so with each dating episode I've I've tried to
Speaker 2: learn a little bit more about myself and about the
Speaker 2: things that you can overcome to get to a successful relationship.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Golden Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: I'm really curious as to how it will look. I,
Speaker 2: for one, you know, I don't want to be a
Speaker 2: contestant there, you know, I feel like it's not the
Speaker 2: right spot for me. But I'm intrigued by how it's
Speaker 2: going to look. Is it going to be like two
Speaker 2: parallel parties, one in one ballroom and one and another
Speaker 2: with you know, the golden group and the younger group,
Speaker 2: and and some people out of one ballroom sneak to
Speaker 2: the other ballroom and back and forth. And I have
Speaker 2: no idea how it's going to be.
Speaker 3: But I am I was going to ask you, which
Speaker 3: this question now thinking about it further doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: Is going to ask you, you know, oh, well would you go?
Speaker 3: But all of the Golden Women are off of your
Speaker 3: season because there's only the one season of the of
Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor, So you've already dated all of them.
Speaker 2: And not only that, but I think what I anticipate
Speaker 2: the women that are going to be there for my season.
Speaker 2: I've also developed good friendships with you know, I talked
Speaker 2: to Kathy, and I talked to Susan, and I'll talk
Speaker 2: to Faith, and I'll talk to Nancy and I'll even
Speaker 2: talk to Leslie from time to time. And so if
Speaker 2: those people are there, it's kind of like trying to
Speaker 2: cultivate a romance with a friend. You know, somebody you're
Speaker 2: friends with and somebody that you're comfortable being in that
Speaker 2: friend zone. So it just wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: Are you. Are you currently dating anyone now?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What's dating life been like since you're in Teresa's breakup?
Speaker 2: I I I am dating someone. I think at this
Speaker 2: point it's going well. But I don't want to say
Speaker 2: too much and jinx okay, And I'm trying to respectfully
Speaker 2: get to a point where there's an acceptable amount of
Speaker 2: time from from my divorce. Maybe that's an old fashioned thought,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it doesn't matter as much as I
Speaker 2: think it does, but but to be respectful, I kind
Speaker 2: of want to slow roll this. And I have told
Speaker 2: Teresa that I'm dating someone, so that's it won't be
Speaker 2: a shocking news to her. But mostly following my own
Speaker 2: advice that they gave you earlier, go slow, take it easy,
Speaker 2: you know, learn this.
Speaker 3: Have your kids had the chance to meet this person?
Speaker 2: They have? And I think the the fun part there
Speaker 2: is she has daughters that I really relate to, and
Speaker 2: her daughter or her she relates well to my daughters.
Speaker 2: So we've been around each other briefly, and but there's
Speaker 2: it's been fun. It's been a very enjoyable encounter.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Joane season at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Any of the guys that you saw in Jones season
Speaker 1: that you think would be good pairings with some of
Speaker 1: the women from your season?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want to play matchmaker at all? Joan?
Speaker 3: Joan is all about it. Maybe you two could come
Speaker 3: down and set some people up.
Speaker 2: God bless her for that. I am I am not
Speaker 2: good at that because Number one, I think you don't
Speaker 2: see enough of a person on the show to get
Speaker 2: a really good read for what there likes and dislikes
Speaker 2: and their character and all of that. So Joan has
Speaker 2: much closer contact with those guys. I will say, I
Speaker 2: think there are some very available and attractive women form
Speaker 2: my season that I think would do great in a
Speaker 2: nice social mixer with those guys. That'd be fun to watch.
Speaker 2: And if that's part of Bachelor and.
Speaker 3: Paradise, Gary, do you think that we're going to see
Speaker 3: a crossover between the Golden contestants and the regular season
Speaker 3: contestants at all?
Speaker 2: And by crossover you mean some.
Speaker 3: Some friendships, maybe some sparks, maybe some connections, maybe just
Speaker 3: you know, just platonic bonds.
Speaker 2: Oh, certainly, I think there will be some really good
Speaker 2: friendships come out of that. Whether or not there's some
Speaker 2: genuine sparks, I'm not really sure. Because I have a
Speaker 2: lot of faith in the women that were on my show,
Speaker 2: A huge amount of faith in them. I believe in them.
Speaker 2: I think they'll be wise enough to realize that that
Speaker 2: amount of age difference could be really different or difficult.
Speaker 1: See, Like, I personally this is and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what it's going to look like either.
Speaker 3: But I don't really all curious.
Speaker 1: I don't really think they're going to be in the
Speaker 1: same location. Like, I don't think they're gonna be like
Speaker 1: in Like the show does such a good job of
Speaker 1: just separating guys from girls when they want to. When
Speaker 1: we're in Paradise, right, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: have an issue separating the Golden contestants from the regular contestant.
Speaker 3: You think it'll be like almost two separate villains. And
Speaker 3: then they might intermix and mingle for like cocktail hours in.
Speaker 1: A rosy May. They may intermix them for like like
Speaker 1: a prom night, like I'd see, I could see like
Speaker 1: they're being a.
Speaker 3: Few or like a if they do a game or something, yeah,
Speaker 3: like the Truth Circle.
Speaker 1: But like I think they're going to be living in
Speaker 1: separate quarters.
Speaker 3: I think I think that's a good theory. That's kind
Speaker 3: of what I envision as well, is like the Golden
Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1: The I just don't think they could risk Kevin a
Speaker 1: seventy five year old dude.
Speaker 2: Two year old either. But I think keeping them close
Speaker 2: and having an interwoven where they just brush together for
Speaker 2: you know, a cocktail or you know, some things like
Speaker 2: that I think adds to the intrigue and the mystique
Speaker 2: of it and and some of the uh question that
Speaker 2: would keep people coming back week the week.
Speaker 3: I like that too. Yeah, people are definitely curious to
Speaker 3: see if it's gonna happen. I don't think it will,
Speaker 3: but I think the intrigue of could it it we'll
Speaker 3: keep people engaged. But I think it'll end up being
Speaker 3: more of like friendly relationships. I mean, we even know,
Speaker 3: like Susan and Rachel from Joey's season have like a
Speaker 3: great friendship.
Speaker 1: Would you make would you? Would you make an appearance
Speaker 1: if they ask you?
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love to do that. I you know,
Speaker 2: in talking to one of the producers, I told him
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be a contestant, but I'd love
Speaker 2: to have a recurring role or a cameo role. I
Speaker 2: keep saying, I'll be I'll be Well's bar back. I'll
Speaker 2: clean dishes and glasses for him while he's doing the bartending.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll escort a date or a host of
Speaker 2: date or something. I think that would be great fun.
Speaker 2: I'd love they got to have you.
Speaker 1: They'll they got to have bring you down to like judge,
Speaker 1: like a pickle ball game or something. I get to
Speaker 1: see that. Speaking of pickleball that I just brought up,
Speaker 1: you're playing three days a week, But how is your health?
Speaker 1: Most importantly?
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I appreciate your asking because I get
Speaker 2: that question a lot. I feel great, and you know,
Speaker 2: as I said, until I have any symptoms, there's no treatment,
Speaker 2: so I go frequently for blood tests. I'm on like
Speaker 2: a six month schedule now, and I'm kind of I
Speaker 2: feel optimistic because the doctor has said, well, when you
Speaker 2: turn seventy five, we're going to have to go three
Speaker 2: month increments. So it's telling me that at least he
Speaker 2: expects me to live another couple of years to get
Speaker 2: to that. But the bottom line is I feel really good.
Speaker 3: Is that a frustrating feeling because I'm assuming that you
Speaker 3: have to wait until it progresses to a certain point
Speaker 3: to then accept treatment. Right, do you feel like it's
Speaker 3: like this kind of waiting period or do you feel
Speaker 3: grateful for this time that, like your health is not
Speaker 3: seriously impacted and you can continue living day to day
Speaker 3: as you usually would.
Speaker 2: So there's good parts in there, and I'll break it
Speaker 2: down a little bit. First of all, twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the people who have Waldronstrom's syndrome Waldron's strooms, whatever the
Speaker 2: hell it is, never have treatment. They outlive it. You know,
Speaker 2: something else gets them. Second of all, and I mean
Speaker 2: this sincerely from the time I got this diagnosis. It's
Speaker 2: a privilege to live like you're dying. I don't turn
Speaker 2: down anything. I feel like I'm more open to emotions,
Speaker 2: I'm more open to experiences. The person I'm dating will
Speaker 2: say do you want to go do? And before she
Speaker 2: even gets out the rest of the sentence, I will
Speaker 2: say yes. So I'm in on everything and it makes
Speaker 2: life exciting because you kind of in the back of
Speaker 2: your head feel like you've got a lot of living
Speaker 2: to do and you don't know how long you have
Speaker 2: to do it. Don't turn down anything, and so it's
Speaker 2: in a way, it's it's really a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's a good mindset. Is the
Speaker 1: person you're dating. Is she adventurous?
Speaker 2: She is that, Yes, she wants to go do Her
Speaker 2: life experiences have been you know, a lot of travel
Speaker 2: and so forth. So that's kind of how we're approaching.
Speaker 3: How are your daughters doing with the diagnosis.
Speaker 2: They're pretty good. It's not like it's talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: I think they understand the baseline of as long as
Speaker 2: dad says he's feeling fine and not having any of
Speaker 2: those symptoms, we're just going to go on like everything's normal.
Speaker 1: Can you share with us. I know you don't want
Speaker 1: to talk too much about your relationship and keep it private,
Speaker 1: but can you share with us when you knew that
Speaker 1: it is becoming more of a serious relationship, when you
Speaker 1: were gonna, like maybe essentially call each other boyfriend girlfriend, or.
Speaker 3: When you were like, I should maybe let Teresa know
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 2: So I I'll start with your question, Serena. I had
Speaker 2: a conversation with Joan and I think Leslie was in
Speaker 2: on it, and I asked for their advice. I said,
Speaker 2: to be respectful and to do the right thing. When
Speaker 2: should I talk to Teresa about this and let her know?
Speaker 2: And their advice was to talk to her soon. So
Speaker 2: on the car ride from the hotel to the airport
Speaker 2: after the AFR the next day, I called Teresa. We
Speaker 2: had a really nice conversation, and you know, I let
Speaker 2: her know, So you know that's that part of it. Now, Joe,
Speaker 2: for your question. I hate to tell you this, and
Speaker 2: I hate to say it because I know I'm going
Speaker 2: to get baseballs thrown at me. It was almost the
Speaker 2: first time I saw her. It was the look that
Speaker 2: she gave me. It was like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I was consumed by this look and I had this
Speaker 2: actual physical feeling and I pushed it off. I go,
Speaker 2: know this, that was silly, that's ridiculous. And with every
Speaker 2: encounter that feeling has instantly come back with her look
Speaker 2: and it's like, damn, this is pretty odd.
Speaker 1: Did you get that at all from any of the
Speaker 1: women on your season?
Speaker 3: Like this partecular experience life before?
Speaker 2: I think the closest to that was when Faith played
Speaker 2: the guitar and sang to me on I think it
Speaker 2: was the first night she got the first impression Rose.
Speaker 2: That would be the closest to it.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so romantic, Garrett. Don't think anyone's going to
Speaker 3: throw baseballs at you. I think people would love.
Speaker 1: To hear that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably someone the whole love at first
Speaker 2: sight thing. I've never been in on that and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden hearing, am I really feel like I'm
Speaker 2: experiencing that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Congratulations. Can we ask you how you met her?
Speaker 3: Do you want to keep that private?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll hold on to bed and any more details
Speaker 2: for a while long. Do you again? I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be Do.
Speaker 1: You know is do you know if Teresa's dating currently
Speaker 1: dating anyone?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's kind of on my list
Speaker 2: to call again here in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: I want to get an update on on what her
Speaker 2: plans are with The Bachelor of ar.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sorr, are you so? Are you too? Are you
Speaker 1: too friendly? At this point? You're on good terms?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we were ever on bad terms.
Speaker 2: I think from from my side of it, my perspective,
Speaker 2: I withdrew from her. I felt like maybe I was
Speaker 2: a source of bad feelings and the negativity that came
Speaker 2: out of the show and so forth. So I kind
Speaker 2: of avoided talking to her, and not out of you know,
Speaker 2: ill will or being combat of it all, just I
Speaker 2: thought it was better if we gave each other space.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was wrong with that and now I intend
Speaker 2: to go a different direction with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no perfect way to handle a breakup,
Speaker 3: and you guys were in a very unique situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you expect to see from her if she
Speaker 1: does go to batch her and Paradise.
Speaker 2: Well, I would hope that she finds some success in
Speaker 2: finding someone. I think she might be a little bit
Speaker 2: of the same opinion that I am, that she's kind
Speaker 2: of been there done that, and that maybe her preference
Speaker 2: would be to not be involved in it, but maybe
Speaker 2: a cameo or something like that. But I can't speak
Speaker 2: for her. I really don't. Yah.
Speaker 3: I hope she goes. I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what what else scary? Anything new you're working
Speaker 1: on right now?
Speaker 2: Uh? There's not a lot, I uh I. I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed my first ever winter being away from the Midwest.
Speaker 2: I was in Mexico for a couple of months, and
Speaker 2: that was I was in San Carlos, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: about halfway down the mainland of Mexico on the Baja.
Speaker 2: And I've got the project going with the Hearing Aid
Speaker 2: Company with Starkey's very happy to have partnered with them,
Speaker 2: and because I feel strongly about that, and I've got
Speaker 2: a book that is really close to being done. What's
Speaker 2: the what's the completing Well, it starts with the first
Speaker 2: date I had with my wife Tony and so back
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty seven and goes forward. Most of the time.
Speaker 2: It talks about my experience. You know in the show.
Speaker 3: Would you describe it as a like an autobiography, It's it's.
Speaker 2: Much closer to an autobiography than it is a tell
Speaker 2: all for sure. I you know, I have certain things
Speaker 2: that are important to me. You know, the feeling of
Speaker 2: not being invisible as you get older, the feeling of
Speaker 2: wanting and needing to have someone in your life if
Speaker 2: if you know, if that's your preference, and and how
Speaker 2: to do those things, and how to put yourself in
Speaker 2: a positive mindset for those things, taking care of your
Speaker 2: health mentally and physically, and those things. So just a
Speaker 2: reminder to people of my age and to any age,
Speaker 2: of all the things that are important that I think
Speaker 2: are important. So that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 3: That's great. When can we expect it to potentially come out, Well,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: It'll be within the next sixty days. You know, it
Speaker 2: should be good to go.
Speaker 1: Now that it's been you know, it's been a little
Speaker 1: over a year since your season, and you know, looking
Speaker 1: back on everything, now, what do you think the best
Speaker 1: thing you took away from the experience.
Speaker 2: Well, A couple of things come to mind. The first
Speaker 2: thing I guess I would say is that I have
Speaker 2: a much better self awareness going into the show. I
Speaker 2: had no idea I was such a criba that I
Speaker 2: that I would connect with people's feelings so deeply and
Speaker 2: so knowing that I've had to adjust my behaviors and
Speaker 2: how I approach things. So that's the first thing. The
Speaker 2: second thing is, I guess the message that I hope
Speaker 2: people would see is that if you're in your seventies
Speaker 2: you can still have a hell of a good time.
Speaker 2: You don't write yourself off because you get to whatever age.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, okay, my first social Security check
Speaker 2: is here, I'm done for now find myself a lazy
Speaker 2: boy and I'm done. It should be just the opposite.
Speaker 2: So those are the things I guess that that first
Speaker 2: come to mind.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think you did that before
Speaker 1: going Do you think you were that person before going
Speaker 1: on the show?
Speaker 2: I was getting close. I was kind of getting there.
Speaker 2: It's kind of you know, it just becomes so much
Speaker 2: easier to not get up off the couch and go
Speaker 2: do and be and get involved and so forth. It's
Speaker 2: just easier to kind of sit down, have your coffee
Speaker 2: and and you know, call it good and and I'm
Speaker 2: I really got revitalized through the show completely, and then
Speaker 2: I've kept that up since then.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. So what is next? We have the book
Speaker 3: coming out your partnership with the hearing aid company. You're
Speaker 3: dating someone, what do you see kind of if we
Speaker 3: talk to in a year, where do you see yourself being?
Speaker 3: It can be general or specific.
Speaker 2: If you and I talk again in a year, I
Speaker 2: think I would look back and recite all the places
Speaker 2: that I had been in this year, because not only
Speaker 2: am I personally motivated to have adventures and go travel,
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have a partner that wants
Speaker 2: to do the same thing, and having those similar tastes
Speaker 2: will be huge. I really think in that year that
Speaker 2: I'll have some experiences related to the book where I
Speaker 2: have a tour and you know, and I have to
Speaker 2: go for signings and so forth, and I actually think
Speaker 2: that'll be fun. You know, I still get recognized all
Speaker 2: the time, you know, wherever I go, and I enjoy that.
Speaker 2: You know, people will sometimes be apologetic or they won't approach,
Speaker 2: but everyone gets a part of the fun when they
Speaker 2: when they start a conversation or they want to take
Speaker 2: a picture. And I'm still happy to do that with people.
Speaker 2: So a year from now, I hope it's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of that. I hope I lament that I haven't
Speaker 2: been home much.
Speaker 1: I like that all right, I think that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, give us your most simplistic
Speaker 1: advice you would give to the next golden bachelor.
Speaker 2: Do the best you can do to not get caught
Speaker 2: up in the moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, don't let the.
Speaker 2: Tidal wave of activity take you up to a velocity
Speaker 2: that supersede your ability to think clearly.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that. That's very good. Gary.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time out of
Speaker 1: your day. We know you're a busy guy. It was
Speaker 1: so much fun chatting with you. We've it's been a while,
Speaker 1: so this was a nice catch up and it was
Speaker 1: great talking to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks. I love seeing you guys, so happy that you're
Speaker 2: doing well and you look awesome and your relationship is flourishing.
Speaker 2: Very happy for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, and to all our listeners, thank
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Speaker 3: You will have more exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks
Speaker 3: for listening. Bye.