1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here with the Golden 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor himself. It's been a while, Gary Turner. Welcome the 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Bacher Happy Hour. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for having me. This is 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: kind of an exciting morning for me. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. How you doing. What's new? 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Life is actually pretty good. I've gotten 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: through the doldrooms of winter. I'm starting to look out 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: on the lake now and it looks sunny, and uh, 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: I just count the days down now until it gets 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: nice and warm. Yeah. 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Well are you You're in Indiana. 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Right, Northern Indiana? 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: And how is it? Yeah, I'm assuming it's cold. It's 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: cold there right now. 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: It was thirty two this morning when I got up, 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: so yeah, it's cold as heck. But you know, by 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: the weekend it's supposed to be back in the seventies. 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: And you know, another couple of weeks the boats will 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: start going in the water, so it'll be. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Good way to spring. 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Have you been Have you been getting any pickled games in, 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: like at least indoor? 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, oh yeah, I still play Monday, Wednesday, Friday 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: about three hours each morning. I got a tournament coming 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: up next Tuesday morning. So it's my it's kind of 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: my barometer for health and well being and so forth. 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: There's a level of tiredness. If I get beyond that, 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: I start wondering what if something's wrong. And if I'm 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: short of that, I'm wondering if I'm not working hard enough. So, 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: you know, bat myself back and forth. 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Three hours is long. I actually don't think I can 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: play pick a ball for three hours. 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Three hours is long. That is a long time. 36 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, it's it's with the group that 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: you guys have seen all along, the group that was 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: at the wedding and that has been with me, So 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: we kind of know each other's tendencies. So it makes 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: it a little bit easier, but we still play pretty hard. 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: We try to kill each other from from your now, 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's been it's been a year since your season. 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Looking back, who uh, which of the women would you 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: consider to be a really good pickleball player? Were there any? 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: Actually? You know, Ellen played pretty well, but I think 46 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: Faith didn't give herself a chance. She seemed fairly athletic 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: and well coordinated and so forth, and for the little 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: bit she played, she looked like she enjoyed it, So, 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of big. I think when you 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: really like it, I think you'd get into it pretty well. 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: That's good. 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's get into AFR from Grant season. Because 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 3: we saw that you were there at the taping. How 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: did the night go? 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Oh? That was kind of fun, you know, most of all, 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: it was great to be back in the environment and 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: see all the people and shake hands and have a 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: chat with Jesse and and you know, talk to Clayton. 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: I hadn't really had the opportunity to talk to Clayton 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: before that, and you know, see some of the old personnel. 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: So I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really would have loved 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: to have had that be a two or three day event. 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: How did you feel going into the panel? Was there 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: any thing specific that you wanted to say? 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: Well, I sort of mentally we heard some of the 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: things I wanted to say beforehand. I knew kind of 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: what the questions were going to be, and you know, 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: it release hits close to home for me. So I 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: was fairly well prepared with my answer and I felt 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: pretty good about what I said. 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: What did you and Clayton chat about anything? In particular. 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just got him on. 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Our podcast, everything from what we like to drink, to 74 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 2: how we're doing with our self help projects, to our 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: own seasons, everything under the sun. Like I said, we 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: hadn't talked before, so it was a blank slate. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Being there and seeing Grant and you know, seeing some 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: of the women kind of you know, lean into him 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. How did that make you feel? Did 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: you feel any similarities? Did you feel like you had 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: somewhat of a similar journey or very different? 82 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, a similar journey. I mean, you guys have been 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: in the environment and you know what it does to you, 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: and you know how all consuming it is. And you 85 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: know when you're there for the one reason of finding 86 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: a partner, and you're so focused and you're so devoted 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: to that, everything else gets blocked out and you give 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: undivided attention to each of the women that you're with 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: at any given time. It's I could really relate to 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: where he was at. You could see the struggle and 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: you could see the difficulty he was having. 92 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: How is it seeing Joan and Chalk? Had you had 95 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: a chance to meet Shock before? 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and it was pretty fun before the AFR 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: that morning for breakfast, we were able to get together 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: and and talk and so that was that was pretty nice. 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: And then of course Clayton comes along, and you know, 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: it wound up being a bigger group. And then after 101 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: the AFR it was especially fun because it was Joan 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: and Chalk and Leslie joined us, so I got to 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: get her perspective on things, and you know what she's 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: got going on. So I loved it. 105 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: For someone that's been in a relationship after the show 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: and being a lead, What would your advice be to 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: Grant right now? 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: I think, you know, so Grant's been in such a 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: tidal wave of events and emotions and so forth. You know, 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: you're going so fast it's like drinking out of a 111 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: fire hydrant. It's time now to just slow it up 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: and figure out how life will feel day to day, 113 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 2: just like even try to find the most boring days 114 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: and see how well you get along with your new partner. 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, try to imagine some of the small obstacles 116 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: that you'll need to overcome as a couple and how 117 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: you'll handle it and start to react to each other. 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: So bottom line is take it slow. 119 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you mind sharing what went wrong in your 120 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: relationship with Teresa. 121 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not so sure anything went wrong. I you know, 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: we've had conversations, and I think our mutual deep devotion 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: to our families kind of reared its head in conversations, 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: and we started trying to realize or trying to find 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: that common ground, the commonality of where we could share 126 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: a life and where we could share a home and 127 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: so forth. Then her being a brand new grandmother and 128 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: me having gone through the loss of a spouse and 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: feeling the support of my daughters, it almost created a 130 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: situation where we recognized fairly quickly that we weren't going 131 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: to find that spot where we could be together. And 132 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: I think more than anything that was it. And I 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: really feel like there was a mutual admiration and respect 134 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: and empathy in both ways that we kind of understood 135 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: the other person's situation. 136 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: So do you think if you and Theresa had been 137 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: from the same place, your families were in the same place, 138 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: you would potentially still be together today. 139 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a difficult hypothetical question based on what 140 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: I know and based on the experiences that we had 141 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: back then. If you eliminate that huge obstacle, I can 142 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: see no red flags. I still don't see any reason 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: why it wouldn't have worked out. But we were also 144 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: so new to the relationship that we may not have 145 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: uncovered that layer of the onion that could have been 146 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: a problem yet. So it's hard to answer that. Really. 147 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, what advice would you give to people that are 148 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: dating long distance? 149 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: Well, first off, what does long distance mean? Does it 150 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: mean a couple hours drive or does it mean halfway 151 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: across the country. 152 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: What do you Yeah, let's say let's say we're talking, 153 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: We're talking different states. 154 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: Across the country. 155 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay. I think the best advice is to 156 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: have a conversation early on about the ability to visit 157 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: back and forth. You know, can you afford to fly 158 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: frequently or is it going to be the drudgery of 159 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: packing and driving. You need to kind of uncover what 160 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: the possible problems might be. You know, I went quite 161 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: some time after Teresa and I separated, and and you know, 162 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: I decided my journey's not done. I really think that, 163 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: in a roundabout way, I want to prove that the 164 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor show was still successful, that it taught me 165 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: enough lessons to get me to the right spot so 166 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: I've tried to learn from my failures, which I think 167 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: you learn more from your failures than your successes, you know. 168 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: And so with each dating episode I've I've tried to 169 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: learn a little bit more about myself and about the 170 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: things that you can overcome to get to a successful relationship. 171 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Golden Bachelor in Paradise. 172 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm really curious as to how it will look. I, 173 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: for one, you know, I don't want to be a 174 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: contestant there, you know, I feel like it's not the 175 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: right spot for me. But I'm intrigued by how it's 176 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: going to look. Is it going to be like two 177 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: parallel parties, one in one ballroom and one and another 178 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: with you know, the golden group and the younger group, 179 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: and and some people out of one ballroom sneak to 180 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: the other ballroom and back and forth. And I have 181 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: no idea how it's going to be. 182 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: But I am I was going to ask you, which 183 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: this question now thinking about it further doesn't make sense. 184 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Is going to ask you, you know, oh, well would you go? 185 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: But all of the Golden Women are off of your 186 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: season because there's only the one season of the of 187 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor, So you've already dated all of them. 188 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: And not only that, but I think what I anticipate 189 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: the women that are going to be there for my season. 190 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: I've also developed good friendships with you know, I talked 191 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: to Kathy, and I talked to Susan, and I'll talk 192 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: to Faith, and I'll talk to Nancy and I'll even 193 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: talk to Leslie from time to time. And so if 194 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: those people are there, it's kind of like trying to 195 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: cultivate a romance with a friend. You know, somebody you're 196 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: friends with and somebody that you're comfortable being in that 197 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: friend zone. So it just wouldn't work. 198 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Are you. Are you currently dating anyone now? 199 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: Like? 200 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: What's dating life been like since you're in Teresa's breakup? 201 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: I I I am dating someone. I think at this 202 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: point it's going well. But I don't want to say 203 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: too much and jinx okay, And I'm trying to respectfully 204 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: get to a point where there's an acceptable amount of 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: time from from my divorce. Maybe that's an old fashioned thought, 206 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, maybe it doesn't matter as much as I 207 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: think it does, but but to be respectful, I kind 208 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: of want to slow roll this. And I have told 209 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: Teresa that I'm dating someone, so that's it won't be 210 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: a shocking news to her. But mostly following my own 211 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: advice that they gave you earlier, go slow, take it easy, 212 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: you know, learn this. 213 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: Have your kids had the chance to meet this person? 214 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: They have? And I think the the fun part there 215 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: is she has daughters that I really relate to, and 216 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: her daughter or her she relates well to my daughters. 217 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: So we've been around each other briefly, and but there's 218 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: it's been fun. It's been a very enjoyable encounter. 219 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Did you watch Joane season at all? 220 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 221 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: Any of the guys that you saw in Jones season 222 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: that you think would be good pairings with some of 223 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: the women from your season? 224 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want to play matchmaker at all? Joan? 225 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: Joan is all about it. Maybe you two could come 226 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: down and set some people up. 227 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: God bless her for that. I am I am not 228 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: good at that because Number one, I think you don't 229 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: see enough of a person on the show to get 230 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: a really good read for what there likes and dislikes 231 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: and their character and all of that. So Joan has 232 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: much closer contact with those guys. I will say, I 233 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: think there are some very available and attractive women form 234 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: my season that I think would do great in a 235 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: nice social mixer with those guys. That'd be fun to watch. 236 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: And if that's part of Bachelor and. 237 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: Paradise, Gary, do you think that we're going to see 238 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: a crossover between the Golden contestants and the regular season 239 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: contestants at all? 240 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: And by crossover you mean some. 241 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: Some friendships, maybe some sparks, maybe some connections, maybe just 242 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, just platonic bonds. 243 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh, certainly, I think there will be some really good 244 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: friendships come out of that. Whether or not there's some 245 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: genuine sparks, I'm not really sure. Because I have a 246 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: lot of faith in the women that were on my show, 247 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: A huge amount of faith in them. I believe in them. 248 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: I think they'll be wise enough to realize that that 249 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: amount of age difference could be really different or difficult. 250 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: See, Like, I personally this is and I have no 251 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: idea what it's going to look like either. 252 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: But I don't really all curious. 253 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't really think they're going to be in the 254 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: same location. Like, I don't think they're gonna be like 255 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: in Like the show does such a good job of 256 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: just separating guys from girls when they want to. When 257 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: we're in Paradise, right, I don't think they're going to 258 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: have an issue separating the Golden contestants from the regular contestant. 259 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: You think it'll be like almost two separate villains. And 260 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: then they might intermix and mingle for like cocktail hours in. 261 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: A rosy May. They may intermix them for like like 262 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: a prom night, like I'd see, I could see like 263 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: they're being a. 264 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Few or like a if they do a game or something, yeah, 265 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: like the Truth Circle. 266 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: But like I think they're going to be living in 267 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: separate quarters. 268 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: I think I think that's a good theory. That's kind 269 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: of what I envision as well, is like the Golden 270 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise. 271 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: The I just don't think they could risk Kevin a 272 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: seventy five year old dude. 273 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: Two year old either. But I think keeping them close 274 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: and having an interwoven where they just brush together for 275 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, a cocktail or you know, some things like 276 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: that I think adds to the intrigue and the mystique 277 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: of it and and some of the uh question that 278 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: would keep people coming back week the week. 279 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: I like that too. Yeah, people are definitely curious to 280 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: see if it's gonna happen. I don't think it will, 281 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: but I think the intrigue of could it it we'll 282 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: keep people engaged. But I think it'll end up being 283 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: more of like friendly relationships. I mean, we even know, 284 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: like Susan and Rachel from Joey's season have like a 285 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: great friendship. 286 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Would you make would you? Would you make an appearance 287 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: if they ask you? 288 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: I would absolutely love to do that. I you know, 289 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: in talking to one of the producers, I told him 290 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be a contestant, but I'd love 291 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: to have a recurring role or a cameo role. I 292 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: keep saying, I'll be I'll be Well's bar back. I'll 293 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: clean dishes and glasses for him while he's doing the bartending. 294 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, I'll escort a date or a host of 295 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: date or something. I think that would be great fun. 296 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: I'd love they got to have you. 297 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: They'll they got to have bring you down to like judge, 298 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: like a pickle ball game or something. I get to 299 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: see that. Speaking of pickleball that I just brought up, 300 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you're playing three days a week, But how is your health? 301 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Most importantly? 302 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I appreciate your asking because I get 303 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: that question a lot. I feel great, and you know, 304 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: as I said, until I have any symptoms, there's no treatment, 305 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: so I go frequently for blood tests. I'm on like 306 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: a six month schedule now, and I'm kind of I 307 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: feel optimistic because the doctor has said, well, when you 308 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: turn seventy five, we're going to have to go three 309 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: month increments. So it's telling me that at least he 310 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: expects me to live another couple of years to get 311 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: to that. But the bottom line is I feel really good. 312 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: Is that a frustrating feeling because I'm assuming that you 313 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: have to wait until it progresses to a certain point 314 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: to then accept treatment. Right, do you feel like it's 315 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: like this kind of waiting period or do you feel 316 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: grateful for this time that, like your health is not 317 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 3: seriously impacted and you can continue living day to day 318 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: as you usually would. 319 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: So there's good parts in there, and I'll break it 320 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: down a little bit. First of all, twenty percent of 321 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: the people who have Waldronstrom's syndrome Waldron's strooms, whatever the 322 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: hell it is, never have treatment. They outlive it. You know, 323 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: something else gets them. Second of all, and I mean 324 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: this sincerely from the time I got this diagnosis. It's 325 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: a privilege to live like you're dying. I don't turn 326 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: down anything. I feel like I'm more open to emotions, 327 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: I'm more open to experiences. The person I'm dating will 328 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: say do you want to go do? And before she 329 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: even gets out the rest of the sentence, I will 330 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: say yes. So I'm in on everything and it makes 331 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: life exciting because you kind of in the back of 332 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: your head feel like you've got a lot of living 333 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: to do and you don't know how long you have 334 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: to do it. Don't turn down anything, and so it's 335 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: in a way, it's it's really a good thing. 336 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's a good mindset. Is the 337 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: person you're dating. Is she adventurous? 338 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: She is that, Yes, she wants to go do Her 339 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: life experiences have been you know, a lot of travel 340 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: and so forth. So that's kind of how we're approaching. 341 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: How are your daughters doing with the diagnosis. 342 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: They're pretty good. It's not like it's talked about a lot. 343 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 2: I think they understand the baseline of as long as 344 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: dad says he's feeling fine and not having any of 345 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: those symptoms, we're just going to go on like everything's normal. 346 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Can you share with us. I know you don't want 347 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: to talk too much about your relationship and keep it private, 348 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: but can you share with us when you knew that 349 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: it is becoming more of a serious relationship, when you 350 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: were gonna, like maybe essentially call each other boyfriend girlfriend, or. 351 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: When you were like, I should maybe let Teresa know 352 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: about this. 353 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: So I I'll start with your question, Serena. I had 354 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: a conversation with Joan and I think Leslie was in 355 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: on it, and I asked for their advice. I said, 356 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: to be respectful and to do the right thing. When 357 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: should I talk to Teresa about this and let her know? 358 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: And their advice was to talk to her soon. So 359 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: on the car ride from the hotel to the airport 360 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: after the AFR the next day, I called Teresa. We 361 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: had a really nice conversation, and you know, I let 362 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: her know, So you know that's that part of it. Now, Joe, 363 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: for your question. I hate to tell you this, and 364 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: I hate to say it because I know I'm going 365 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: to get baseballs thrown at me. It was almost the 366 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: first time I saw her. It was the look that 367 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: she gave me. It was like, all of a sudden, 368 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: I was consumed by this look and I had this 369 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: actual physical feeling and I pushed it off. I go, 370 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: know this, that was silly, that's ridiculous. And with every 371 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: encounter that feeling has instantly come back with her look 372 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: and it's like, damn, this is pretty odd. 373 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: Did you get that at all from any of the 374 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: women on your season? 375 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: Like this partecular experience life before? 376 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: I think the closest to that was when Faith played 377 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: the guitar and sang to me on I think it 378 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: was the first night she got the first impression Rose. 379 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: That would be the closest to it. 380 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: Oh, that's so romantic, Garrett. Don't think anyone's going to 381 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: throw baseballs at you. I think people would love. 382 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: To hear that. 383 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, probably someone the whole love at first 384 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: sight thing. I've never been in on that and all 385 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden hearing, am I really feel like I'm 386 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: experiencing that. 387 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: That's amazing. Congratulations. Can we ask you how you met her? 388 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: Do you want to keep that private? 389 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'll hold on to bed and any more details 390 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: for a while long. Do you again? I'm trying to 391 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: be Do. 392 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: You know is do you know if Teresa's dating currently 393 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: dating anyone? 394 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's kind of on my list 395 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: to call again here in the next couple of days. 396 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: I want to get an update on on what her 397 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: plans are with The Bachelor of ar. 398 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Sorr, are you so? Are you too? Are you 399 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: too friendly? At this point? You're on good terms? 400 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we were ever on bad terms. 401 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: I think from from my side of it, my perspective, 402 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I withdrew from her. I felt like maybe I was 403 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: a source of bad feelings and the negativity that came 404 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: out of the show and so forth. So I kind 405 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: of avoided talking to her, and not out of you know, 406 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: ill will or being combat of it all, just I 407 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: thought it was better if we gave each other space. 408 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Maybe I was wrong with that and now I intend 409 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: to go a different direction with it. 410 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 411 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no perfect way to handle a breakup, 412 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: and you guys were in a very unique situation. 413 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 414 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: What do you expect to see from her if she 415 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: does go to batch her and Paradise. 416 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: Well, I would hope that she finds some success in 417 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: finding someone. I think she might be a little bit 418 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: of the same opinion that I am, that she's kind 419 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: of been there done that, and that maybe her preference 420 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: would be to not be involved in it, but maybe 421 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: a cameo or something like that. But I can't speak 422 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: for her. I really don't. Yah. 423 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: I hope she goes. I do. 424 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So what what else scary? Anything new you're working 425 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: on right now? 426 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: Uh? There's not a lot, I uh I. I really 427 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: enjoyed my first ever winter being away from the Midwest. 428 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 2: I was in Mexico for a couple of months, and 429 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: that was I was in San Carlos, which is, you know, 430 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: about halfway down the mainland of Mexico on the Baja. 431 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: And I've got the project going with the Hearing Aid 432 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: Company with Starkey's very happy to have partnered with them, 433 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: and because I feel strongly about that, and I've got 434 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: a book that is really close to being done. What's 435 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: the what's the completing Well, it starts with the first 436 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: date I had with my wife Tony and so back 437 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty seven and goes forward. Most of the time. 438 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: It talks about my experience. You know in the show. 439 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: Would you describe it as a like an autobiography, It's it's. 440 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Much closer to an autobiography than it is a tell 441 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: all for sure. I you know, I have certain things 442 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: that are important to me. You know, the feeling of 443 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 2: not being invisible as you get older, the feeling of 444 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: wanting and needing to have someone in your life if 445 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: if you know, if that's your preference, and and how 446 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: to do those things, and how to put yourself in 447 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: a positive mindset for those things, taking care of your 448 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: health mentally and physically, and those things. So just a 449 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: reminder to people of my age and to any age, 450 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: of all the things that are important that I think 451 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: are important. So that's kind of what it is. 452 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: That's great. When can we expect it to potentially come out, Well, 453 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: I think. 454 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: It'll be within the next sixty days. You know, it 455 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: should be good to go. 456 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Now that it's been you know, it's been a little 457 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: over a year since your season, and you know, looking 458 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: back on everything, now, what do you think the best 459 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: thing you took away from the experience. 460 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: Well, A couple of things come to mind. The first 461 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: thing I guess I would say is that I have 462 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: a much better self awareness going into the show. I 463 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: had no idea I was such a criba that I 464 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: that I would connect with people's feelings so deeply and 465 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: so knowing that I've had to adjust my behaviors and 466 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: how I approach things. So that's the first thing. The 467 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: second thing is, I guess the message that I hope 468 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: people would see is that if you're in your seventies 469 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: you can still have a hell of a good time. 470 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: You don't write yourself off because you get to whatever age. 471 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's like, okay, my first social Security check 472 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: is here, I'm done for now find myself a lazy 473 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: boy and I'm done. It should be just the opposite. 474 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: So those are the things I guess that that first 475 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: come to mind. 476 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think you did that before 477 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: going Do you think you were that person before going 478 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: on the show? 479 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: I was getting close. I was kind of getting there. 480 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of you know, it just becomes so much 481 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: easier to not get up off the couch and go 482 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: do and be and get involved and so forth. It's 483 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: just easier to kind of sit down, have your coffee 484 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: and and you know, call it good and and I'm 485 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: I really got revitalized through the show completely, and then 486 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: I've kept that up since then. 487 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: That's amazing. So what is next? We have the book 488 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: coming out your partnership with the hearing aid company. You're 489 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: dating someone, what do you see kind of if we 490 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: talk to in a year, where do you see yourself being? 491 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: It can be general or specific. 492 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: If you and I talk again in a year, I 493 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: think I would look back and recite all the places 494 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: that I had been in this year, because not only 495 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: am I personally motivated to have adventures and go travel, 496 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have a partner that wants 497 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: to do the same thing, and having those similar tastes 498 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: will be huge. I really think in that year that 499 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: I'll have some experiences related to the book where I 500 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: have a tour and you know, and I have to 501 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: go for signings and so forth, and I actually think 502 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: that'll be fun. You know, I still get recognized all 503 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: the time, you know, wherever I go, and I enjoy that. 504 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: You know, people will sometimes be apologetic or they won't approach, 505 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: but everyone gets a part of the fun when they 506 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: when they start a conversation or they want to take 507 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 2: a picture. And I'm still happy to do that with people. 508 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: So a year from now, I hope it's a whole 509 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: bunch of that. I hope I lament that I haven't 510 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: been home much. 511 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I like that all right, I think that's pretty much it. 512 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, give us your most simplistic 513 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: advice you would give to the next golden bachelor. 514 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: Do the best you can do to not get caught 515 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: up in the moment. 516 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, don't let the. 517 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: Tidal wave of activity take you up to a velocity 518 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: that supersede your ability to think clearly. 519 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that. That's very good. Gary. 520 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time out of 521 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: your day. We know you're a busy guy. It was 522 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: so much fun chatting with you. We've it's been a while, 523 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: so this was a nice catch up and it was 524 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: great talking to you. 525 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: Thanks. I love seeing you guys, so happy that you're 526 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: doing well and you look awesome and your relationship is flourishing. 527 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Very happy for you. 528 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, and to all our listeners, thank 529 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning into Betchler Happy Hour. 530 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. 531 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: You will have more exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks 532 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: for listening. Bye.