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Speaker 1: Bretant new Awkward Tuesday phone call on Your Second Date podcast,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. And yesterday we asked

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Speaker 1: you to share your scariest stories because that was the

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Speaker 1: question on their Date and what do you have?

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Speaker 2: Alexis Dan said, I'd love to tell you guys my

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Speaker 2: scary stories. Too many to choose from, but I have

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Speaker 2: a bunch about sleep paralysis. My first experience in my

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Speaker 2: last was really creepy, too long to tell, but if

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Speaker 2: anyone wants to know, I'll share.

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Speaker 3: Just ask. Oh, Dan, we did ask, Yes, we asked

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Speaker 3: you to tell the story scares me.

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Speaker 4: Next time.

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Speaker 5: Dan's like, Hey, if you guys want me to leave

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Speaker 5: a comment on this, just let me know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell us, all right, let us let you Dan, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let us know what you think of today's akwerd Tuesday

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Speaker 3: phone call. It's brand new and it starts right now.

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Speaker 6: It's broken Jeffrey in the morning, and we got an

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Speaker 6: email from a woman who was desperate for our help

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Speaker 6: because she's had something in her house for nine days

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Speaker 6: and could not get.

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Speaker 4: Rid of it.

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Speaker 6: No matter what she tried, leaving the door open, showing

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Speaker 6: it with a broom, it just wouldn't go. And that

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Speaker 6: something is her.

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Speaker 4: Mother in law?

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Speaker 7: What is?

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Speaker 4: I know it's even scarier than the ring.

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Speaker 6: Part two, and the worst part is it's caused an

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Speaker 6: issue between her and her husband. So we're going to

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Speaker 6: try to assist during a brand new awkward Tuesday phone

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Speaker 6: call right after this.

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Speaker 4: It's awkward, It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 6: We all have informal titles on this show, like Alexis

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Speaker 6: is our resident dog walker slash party girl, Jose is

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Speaker 6: our resident video game expert slash professional napper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, watch me nap on stream.

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Speaker 6: And Brook is the poster child for getting along with

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Speaker 6: your mother in law.

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Speaker 4: She is.

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Speaker 6: There is not one person I know who beats Brook

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Speaker 6: in total grace, humility, and tact when dealing with the

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Speaker 6: mother of your spouse.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I appreciate that you're known as

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Speaker 1: a guy that's never sarcastic.

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Speaker 3: No, I love that. I love that about us.

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Speaker 6: Aren't we great?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, not everybody has that tight bond that Brooke does

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Speaker 6: with her mom in law, And apparently that's the reason

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Speaker 6: our listener, Abby has reached out for help today. So Abby,

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Speaker 6: welcome to I la in Law's anonymous this is a

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Speaker 6: safe space for you.

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Speaker 4: We're happy to have you here.

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Speaker 8: How you doing, I'm doing okay. How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Doing good?

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Speaker 3: In law issues? I've never had him. Don't know I

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Speaker 6: We'll see how this goes. But tell us about the

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Speaker 6: situation you find yourself in.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've been married for a couple of years now,

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Speaker 8: and my husband is an architect and he does periodically

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Speaker 8: have to travel for work. But his most recent trip,

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Speaker 8: he had to be gone for about two months.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a lot of time.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, no contact at all with him?

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Speaker 3: Or like he's an architect, he's not in the secret Cia,

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Speaker 3: or he.

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Speaker 5: Could be architecting in the center of the Earth.

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Speaker 4: He could be architecting the new Pentagon broke. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how what field of work he's in exactly.

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Speaker 8: No, we were able to talk and FaceTime a little bit,

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Speaker 8: but it's just in a different country, so it's not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense, And it sucks when the time difference

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Speaker 4: On the metric system over in whatever other country. And

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that plays a role in it. How many

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Speaker 4: stories is this. Yeah, so a lot of confusion going

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Speaker 1: So he was gone overseas as I'm guessing when the

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Speaker 8: Actually it was when he got back.

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Speaker 4: Oh why what happened?

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Speaker 8: Well, the day he got back, I was so excited,

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Speaker 8: back from the airport, his mom called and she's like, hey,

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Speaker 8: I'm on my way over and we're like okay, like

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Speaker 6: Okay, Oh, she invited herself over to your place when

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Speaker 1: I see, and you too, were planning on making up

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Speaker 1: for two months away from each other.

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Speaker 4: Why are you immediate? That's immediately where you're find.

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Speaker 3: That's where I would have been.

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Speaker 4: Oh God, tell us what happened with the mom in law.

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Speaker 8: Well, when she got there, I thought, okay, like she's

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Speaker 8: just staying for dinner, Like, because I'm sure she missed you.

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Speaker 8: My husbands name is Keith. I'm sure she missed Keith too. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 8: because we usually see her a couple of times a week.

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Speaker 8: She doesn't live all that far but far enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I recommend a whole state.

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Speaker 6: But whatever, ye, wherever you want, sure at least right,

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Speaker 6: But this makes sense everybody's excited to see Keith again

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Speaker 4: So you have dinner together.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we all have dinner together. And then she's like, oh,

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Speaker 8: my bag is in the car, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 8: I guess she's staying the night.

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Speaker 3: Oh she lives like driving distance to your house, you

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Speaker 8: Sort of like it's not super far, it's definitely drivable,

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Speaker 8: but like she also can't really drive at night.

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, so she stays one night, that's okay.

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Speaker 8: She didn't stay this one night. She stayed for nine days.

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Speaker 7: Nine days leave.

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Speaker 3: Nine days of unannounced mother in a law of time.

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Speaker 5: Huh yeah, okay, Well, I mean what did your husband?

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Speaker 3: I want to know what your husband said to all

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Speaker 8: I mean he was slightly annoyed because she just would

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Speaker 8: she would just follow us around, talking and asking questions,

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Speaker 8: and like, oh god, it was a lot. It was

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Speaker 6: Nine days of that must be pretty taxing on you mentally.

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Speaker 3: So what is so bizarre? You're like, when is she

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So what happened?

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Speaker 8: So one night my husband was out, He's at the

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Speaker 8: grocery store and she's following me around, and I'm just

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Speaker 8: I'm at the end of my rope. I just want

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Speaker 3: All the way.

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Speaker 4: Sure, well what happened.

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Speaker 8: I was trying to beat around the bush about when

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Speaker 8: just got frustrated and I said, you know what, you

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Speaker 8: just need to leave. You've been here for too long.

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Speaker 8: You just have to go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's understandable.

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Speaker 4: Is applauding that she doesn't think he used harsh enough language.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. I'm sure that she was hurt hearing that.

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Speaker 8: But she was very hurt and she kind of huffed out.

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Speaker 8: And then she called my husband while he was call

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Speaker 8: I didn't even get a chance to tell him.

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Speaker 4: Now, you're the bad guy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and he thinks now that like I hate his mom,

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Speaker 8: and I don't. I mean, I felt awful when she laughed.

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Speaker 8: I was like, oh my god, that's not how I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even if you don't believe that, it's really nice.

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Speaker 1: They thought like my mother in law a lot, But

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Speaker 1: I do love my mother in law too, you know,

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Speaker 1: like it's a complicated relationship to have.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, now that we've heard your story, you

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Speaker 6: know this is the awkward Tuesday phone call. So what

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Speaker 6: advice are you looking to get from us before you

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Speaker 6: call your calling?

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Speaker 8: Well, we're going to be calling my husband because he's

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Speaker 8: been very upset with me since she last okay, And

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Speaker 8: I try to talk to him about it, but he's like, okay,

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Speaker 8: well you know your action said something else.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, we'll see if we can change his mind

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Speaker 6: and get him to realize you don't hate his mother.

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Speaker 6: When we come back and do your awkward Tuesday phone

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Speaker 6: call right after this.

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Speaker 4: It's awkward.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. You could write a Doctor

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Speaker 6: Seuss book called Oh the Things you Shouldn't Say to

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Speaker 6: your mother in law, And one of those things you

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Speaker 6: shouldn't say to her is you need to get out

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Speaker 6: of this house. You are driving me and my husband

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Speaker 6: crazy right now. Please leave?

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't know, I a please.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I was really sugarcoating with Thatchap.

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Speaker 6: But that's exactly what our listener Abby said to her

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Speaker 6: mom in law, And honestly, it's kind of understandable that

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Speaker 6: she did, because the mom showed up uninvited ended up

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Speaker 6: spending nine straight days there.

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Speaker 4: Still, though, Abby.

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Speaker 6: Understands it was not a good move, especially because her

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Speaker 6: and that's not a good feeling for a marriage.

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Speaker 3: I think it's also not good because it's not true.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't hate her. Yeah, that's her, It's just she

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Speaker 3: was pushed to.

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Speaker 6: The break exactly And how long ago did this happen, Abby.

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Speaker 8: I was just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So now Abby's come to us for advice on

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Speaker 6: how to convince her husband she doesn't hate his mom.

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Speaker 6: She just really wanted to reconnect with him alone just

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Speaker 6: a little bit, Brook. What's your advice for how she

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Speaker 3: Well, Listen, I have said a lot of things I

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Speaker 3: should not have said to my mother in law.

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Speaker 4: Okay, not just your mother in law, to a lot

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Speaker 4: of people in the public.

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Speaker 3: No, But when you're talking to your husband about your

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Speaker 3: mother in law, it's a really sticky, weird space, right

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Speaker 3: because that's his mom.

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Speaker 1: No matter how many negative feelings or how irritated you are,

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Speaker 1: that's still his mom. So he's going to defend her

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Speaker 1: no matter what. I would recommend not commenting at all

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Speaker 1: about her behavior and just fall on the sword you're

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Speaker 1: sorry and leave it at.

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Speaker 4: That, Okay, like say less.

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Speaker 3: Say less and take the blame.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about that? Abby?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think that there is something there, and

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Speaker 8: yes I should take some blame for like especially how

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Speaker 8: I acted towards her. But I still feel like her

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Speaker 8: staying that long without a conversation with either one of

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Speaker 8: us was kind of inappropriate on her part.

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Speaker 3: So she doesn't like your advices.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brooks, maybe you have something better. Abb Well. Action

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Speaker 4: speak louder than words. So yeah, sure you could say

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Speaker 4: you don't hate his mom.

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Speaker 5: Like Brookes suggests it, but it would be even better

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Speaker 4: Coming up, maybe be.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe plan a thing for her and her son.

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Speaker 4: And it's Abby's idea. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely think I could do something that's like

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Speaker 3: That's that was legit advice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good job, good job.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so there you go, Abby, you have a little

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Speaker 6: That conversation won't go well. No, we're dialing your husband,

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Speaker 6: Keith right now, and we will step away. Let you

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Speaker 4: You feel ready, I think?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 4: Okay, good luck, good, Here we go.

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Speaker 7: Hello.

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Speaker 8: Hey, it's me.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, every BID's how are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm good? How are you doing hanging in there?

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Speaker 7: I guess everything considered.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk to you about that,

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Speaker 7: You know, you can't just do that to her because

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Speaker 7: It's not fair.

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Speaker 8: No, you're right, she is and she didn't deserve that,

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Speaker 8: But you had been gone four months and not that

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Speaker 7: You know, just stopped. Please, Okay, she's family and there's

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Speaker 7: although I do appreciate you taking some responsibility here, I

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Speaker 8: You say absurd, but like I need you to put

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Speaker 7: Like, how would I react? I would be a loving

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Speaker 7: I know you know. I'll tell you one thing I

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Speaker 7: My mom's coming to me now and she's telling me

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Speaker 7: You want to know why.

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 7: Because you told my mom that you just want her son.

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Speaker 7: I just want to like, who tells that?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what.

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Speaker 7: Law is going on right now?

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Speaker 4: What's happening Keith?

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Speaker 7: What's happening right now?

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Speaker 4: We want to know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So, there's been a lot of people listening to

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Speaker 7: Ok, Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I am. We are stunned. Abby, this

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Speaker 7: You know, you really called the radio station.

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Speaker 8: I know, I know, but I just I was having

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Speaker 1: Any of it.

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Speaker 4: None of the advice was really taken, and you.

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Speaker 3: Didn't give us the whole story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you actually said those words.

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Speaker 8: To his I said, I wanted, like, I love making sessions.

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Speaker 3: Better than you.

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Speaker 7: Never I would never tell your mom that. That's just

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Speaker 6: I think they're they're you know, the words are a

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Speaker 7: Do you think I wanted my mom to know, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, I got a little at home, Like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I do not want details of your marriage right now?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean off air, yes, but not now.

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Speaker 3: And Abby do not have a door to your bedroom?

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Speaker 8: We do, but I feel awkward.

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Speaker 6: Come on, Brook, you do with your in laws in

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Speaker 6: The point, alexis but listen, the last thing that we

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Speaker 5: It is true, she's apologizing.

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Speaker 1: And Keith, I bet, I bet your mom wants grandbabies,

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Speaker 3: How long she's going to stay. Like, Keith, you too

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Speaker 4: It's a good point.

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Speaker 7: I can see that point. If you're willing to meet.

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Speaker 8: Me halfway, yeah, I totally I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Go somewhere, or Abby could pop out of the birthday

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Speaker 8: I think that might be more for Keith's birthday. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: She she's very apologetic about how the conversation went down,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she loves your.

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Speaker 6: Mom, not the same way she loves you, but yes, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well I'm willing to do that, and I hope we

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Speaker 4: I will do better. This is sounding really nice.

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Speaker 6: It feels like you two are in a much better

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Speaker 3: It looks like they need a make up love session.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, well I guess we'll stay on the phone

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Speaker 6: while you two knock it out, go for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, while you may, you guys make up off the air.

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Speaker 4: You're good though, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: That's your awkward Tuesday phone call on jeff Shout out

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Speaker 6: to all the mom in laws.

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Speaker 4: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the.

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Speaker 3: Morning brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's going to be a fun Thanksgiving with the

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Speaker 4: I wonder what they're going to talk about over dinner.

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Speaker 3: I think it's cute. I think they're going to work

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Speaker 3: it all out. Yeah, I think. Okay, if you want

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Speaker 3: to know the real gossip, I think the mother in law.

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Speaker 3: I've been right. That is a long time to be

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Speaker 6: Your own nine days, right, Yeah, I mean I didn't

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Speaker 4: People don't love their kids.

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Speaker 5: What is the conversation that happens when they finally sit down,

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Speaker 5: They're like, well, how was the love making?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I hope it was worth kicking your mother out for anyway.

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Speaker 6: I do hope it's all smoothed over. And if anybody

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Speaker 4: Brook? What's your Instagram handle?

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Speaker 3: No, not mine?

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Speaker 5: Just go to ah getting as Jose what.

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Speaker 4: Do you want when you hilarious? Jose go follow him?

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Speaker 4: And Alexis what's your handle?

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey, there we go. Thank you. Someone needed

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Speaker 6: You can listen all of our awkward Tuesday second Ate

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Speaker 3: And that's not even my handle.

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Speaker 7: You